Just a suggestion, when suggesting a guide for moveset combos, try putting on screen some icons or label (visual cue) for each move/button that will be pressed. Just like a command list from Tekken practice mode. Will probably be appreciated by lots of viewers imo
@@solplayer5251 I think in practice Tempest Mephis echo might actually be better for a few boss fights where you don't have the opportunity to actually get all the attacks of Thundering Mephis out in time without getting punished. I've been playing around with a 2pc + 2pc with the Mech Abomination as my active echo recently and actually like it more than any of the Mephis ones in practice, the theoretical dps is lower but it is MUCH easier to have 100% uptime on the buff in practice, and to get it's damage out on the bosses.
The vast majority of guides only say obvious stuff that is just common sense, but it's hard to find a guide that actually gives you specific combat tips like this :)
Combat for him pretty simple, you want to use his resonance skill, on timing 3 times then heavy attack them his liberation skill then 5 attacks then heavy attack then repeat until he his back in normal state dodging with him for his dodge counter does great dmg as well
Finally someone has done a guide for Calcharo. I've read, but never seen that there is a window 5 sequence attack during ultimate for optional character switch. Looking forward to updates. Thank you for guide
THANK YOU i've been waiting since release for something like this. every content creator talks about how you have to utilize cancels for calcharo but NONE of them explain the cancels themselves
@@UnusGrunus haha yeah I was thinking the same thing, it's probably because you want to be going into your ult phase with full stacks but it's fun for open world stuff, especially with sanhua.
Yeah I called it when I was talking to my friends about how pgr has these selectors and had a feeling that if that was anything to go off of then this game would do the same thing
Thank you so much for the cancel guide! Subscribed immediately. I always hear people saying “Calcharo is hard cause you need to cancel his animations or you won’t get his full potential” but nobody ever explained how. Also, for the sub-DPS I think Jianxin is good. She buffs resonance liberation and also gives a pretty good shield and has some cc with her burst. His best teammate by far is Yinlin though but she comes after Jiyan though. Yinlin buffs electro damage and resonance liberation and just is perfect for him and they have the best synergy ingame. She also does great damage. I’d get her if I were you!
Sadly I didn't roll Jianxin so couldn't test them together, that does sound like a potent combo though. I'll be on the lookout for Yinlin if I have enough pulls and luck on my side :D
He didn't explain it either lol. His guide seems to be based on how he likes to use him rather than the "meta" way to use him or what every seems to have heard about him.
Have to say. Got standard broad blade in at pity 4. Used it for half a day, gambling addiction kicks in, pull jiyan sword, get jiyan sword at pity 7 again, profits
Jiyan sword is not good on Calcharo, it only buff the charge atk damage but Calcharo CA is considered resonance liberation damage while in the burst state, basically he don't use the passive of that weapon, is only a stat stick, his best in slot is the battle pass one, currently is the only broadblade that provides crit rate and the passive is really good on him, they change the type of damage on purpose to nerf jiyan weapon on him
@@Mordred_King you can’t say it’s not good on him. A stat stick is a still a stat stick. And no f2p’s gonna buy pass. I don’t care about meta anyway. Jiyan sig still gives crit dmg. Just farm mephis to get crit rate. So easy lah. And that battle pass weapon only gets better than jiyan sig at r5
@@stevet6975 getting crit rate from ecos only is to hard and reaching 80% crit rate right now without a weapon is almost impossible, you have to equip the 4‐4-1-1-1 build wich is not optimal to reach decent crit rate, honestly that's one of my biggest complain, the lack of good weapons is a problem
Thank you for the guide, I'm new so I'm confused at what the terms are I wish on the next guides there would be an indicator for skills and attack icons for the combos.
If it is possible, i think lots of people would agree if we had a visual clue of combos, because for me as a bad listener its hard to comprehend all of what you said without coming a few seconds before in the video
I run a 4-4-1-1-1 build for my cal because that give double the crit rate and he one of the few chars that can run that build, since thundering Memphis and tempest Memphis is different bosses it’s a pretty op build
You mentioned that his ult autos are considered Resonance liberation damage, but that is wrong (according to the tooltip at least) - they are considered as basic attack damage.
Nice, I got Calcharo from the 30 pull beginner banner and then decided to put him as my choice for the extra banner and I ended up getting 2 copies of him from a 10 pull at 40/80. So now I have him at W2. I got Jiyan in 11 pulls as well so I fully intend to pull for Jiyans weapon to use between the two I was wondering how to maximize my usage of him
Helo question, nirnal is 4331 the echo right, so why are the 3 echo power both of them is electro? Or the elemental damage??, in genshin term there shkuld only be 1 echo or build/item wirh elemental damage not 2,so why 2 elemental damage on echo on the 3 in wuthering waves??
Question: you said we can cancel dodge counter into resonance skill but how exactly do we do that? Do you just activate resonance skill while you are in the middle of the dodge counter animation? Or do you also need to cancel the dodge counter animation with a dodge and then activate the resonance skill?
Yep, if you want a faster paced option go for the Tempest Mephis, or if you need a REALLY fast paced one pick either the Electro Predator or the Flautist (Flautist has some nice quickswap tech with it, pretty fun to play around with!)
It's ideal to go for a 1:2 ratio, but generally speaking for most content so far in the game, as long as you just stack crit rate youll be fine. Calcharo also has crit damage in his fortes, so getting crit rate from other sources is more important than crit damage!
hi Dr.Misc... how about Tempest mephist echo ? The twin of thundering xD. Problem with Thundering Mephist is that he hits multiple time and is not good for fast swaping (u lose hits from him if u swap). While Tempest Jumps and hits once and good for swaping characters.
I have a huge doubt guys, when Calcharo uses his resonance liberations, are their attacks considered basic or heavy attacks?. I have been using Mortefi lately buy I am not sure if it boosts my Calcharo. Hope you can guide me.
The enhanced heavy is considered as liberation damage (at least i think thats what it says in game!) and the enhanced basic attacks are considered basic attacks! Mortefi is not very good with Calcharo IMO, you could use Sanhua, Yinlin if you have her, or Jianxin instead, or run a dual DPS comp and use a sub dps like Rover, Chixia, or even Danjin.
@@einghelgonzalez3063 Sanhua is fine if you have her built, she also allows you to play both quickswap and hypercarry playstyle with Calcharo so even better!
@@dr_misc Thanks brother. I really need this. I fucked it up rushing the wrong 5 star weapon. I thought esmerald weapon would work with Calcharo but is not even compatible. The critic bonuses made me blind. But well, what is done is done. I used Calcharo, Mortefi and Verina but I guess that due to the stupid mistake I will have to build Sahua now.
A question about the BP weapon Autumntrace, it says in passive that the atk increase is triggered by basic atk (or heavy atk) DMG, does it still work during Calcharo ultimate, because his basics are now ult dmg?
@@dr_misc Okay thank you! Yeah some description in the game isn't specific enough. I'm still conflicted on which weapons (BP/Standard 5*) I should give Calcharo/Yinlin. Or if I should just wait 2 BP for them both, and choose the standard 5* sword later, because it's more OP. Maybe I'll also try couple multis in Yinlin weapon banner since it's also op. Btw nice guide man, keep it up!
@@dr_misc Sorry for the ping again, so I've asked around prydwen server, and their calcs sheet shows that during Calcharo's ult, his basic atk spam is still counted as basic atk DMG, while only his "heavy atk" (forte clearance) during his ult is counted as ult damage! So that means the BP weapon works on him, but again, if you were to get that weapon, please do tell me! 🙏
@@nerotv836 thats good to know, I'll definitely keep that in mind if I do an updated Calcharo guide later in the future once we get more content in the game!
That depends if you have passive stacks up or not! If you do, then yes, but if you don't, you are wasting too much of the buff uptime on smaller attacks and won't have much of the duration left for the big money shots during your Resonance Liberation.
for the echo , i remember i saw someone said that the main echo in this vid is not good for him because that echo need to hit 6 time to activate the passive , or has it been changed already?
43311 is generally going to be better because 60% damage bonus applies even when you don't crit, 44111 is more of a specialist build if you want to push close to 100% crit rate
@@dr_misc thx man and yea i saw that in another video can you make it more clear cut next time what is THE optimal one? only min maxers watch guides like these i think but thats just my opinion i have no idea how to do youtube haha
Nope, I think there was a misunderstanding with what I meant in the video - I meant that leveling his resonance liberation forte will boost the damage that your enhanced basic attack does. Leveling his basic attack will NOT boost that, but the people letting me know in the comments that his enhanced basic attacks count as basic attacks when it comes to checking for damage bonuses are correct! So basically basic attack damage bonus (such as Sanhua outro skill) will boost your enhanced basic attacks, but leveling up your basic attack forte will NOT do that.
Does the benefits from Thundering Memphis only happen after all of its echo attacks or can you cancel mid-attack (e.g. 1 echo hit then dash cancel) and still get the bonuses?
Sadly you need the last attack to hit before you get the bonuses. I thought you don't initially but after testing it I had to actually change the script for the video too :D
This is the exact reason Thundering Memphis has been falling out of favor, especially among the Chinese. They realized first that even though this buff is incredible, actually trying to make it happen in practice is not reliable at all. It's common for that last attack to miss, unless you use it at a perfect opportunity. So, a shorter sequence echo like Tempest Mephis instead, tends to be far more practical/reliable and end up much better even though it's buffs are not as strong.
You are just wrong, Verdant summit is better then Lustrous Razor. His best main echo is not Thundering Mephis but Tempest Mephis due to the time you need to get the buff. Also i think it s worth explaining that even though after you use resonance liberations you start to use different attacks with different multipliers they are still considered as basic attack.
What is your opinion on animation cancel during ult combo? most people say calcharo need animation cancel ult for maximum dmg but nobody i see seems to teach how to do it
I think people are misguided for now on how "dps" or "max damage" works in this game. It's not like Genshin with almost completely passive enemies or unkillable Zhongli shield team comps where you can just ignore boss mechanics (at least for now, maybe later it will turn into that). So far from what I experienced, you only get 1 "true" dps window per boss fight, and maybe 3-4 smaller ones, other than that almost all your actual damage is going to be coming from many small instances of dodge counters and resonance skill/basic attack in higher difficulty content. To give a good analogy, thinking about trying to maximize your damage output by learning tech like that is like trying to make your cake taste better by putting 1 single piece of strawberry on it - sure, it can help, but thats not where the taste is coming from for the entire cake :D
im waiting for days for a guide but so far from my experience, its by far the most fun and possibly best play style to swap into other characters almost every time he goes for that plunge attack, you get so many outro and intro skills in between your combos that buff your team (you can do it 3 times during his ult alone), i simply cant believe this is not a more optimal way to play him. but again im sure there will be guides out soon. and IF this solo playstyle turns out to be more optimal im dropping this character since i find that boring anyway haha
@@UnusGrunus I think swap cancelling it will be optimal, but for now since the game is new solo is better ONLY because you probably don't have resources to fully build 2 teams yet, so most people should focus on 2 main DPS-es so you can clear tower of adversity and cover elemental resistances vs hologram bosses.
@@dr_misc thanks for the reply I also think the same. But I am quite confused as it's mentioned on the kit that it treated as BA damage . It maybe a tl error .... But like depending on the scaling my support option gotta change .
Sadly its a non-boosted gacha roll. I just got lucky with it. Thankfully, it's not really better than any of the weapons I mentioned in the video (except maybe the 3 star ones) so you're not missing out on much :D
In practice, yes, as far as spreadsheet maths goes, possibly not. It's better in practice because you get energy regen AND resonance liberation damage bonus off of it - and Calcharo's damage mostly comes from Resonance Liberation damage. Both getting access to your burst damage window faster, and getting a 14% bump to it is way better than whatever crit damage you get from Jiyan's weapon (keep in mind you get ATK% from the standard 5* weapon which while not as valuable overall as Crit DMG, is still closer than Crit DMG and ATK% weapons in Genshin for example)
@@dr_miscBut Jiyan’s weapon gives you straight up 12% dmg up and 48% heavy atk dmg up on top of higher base atk and CD. I think you’re putting too much stock into the 12.8% ER which isn’t much on its own and has to be bolstered by substats to really make much of a difference right?
It's a summon echo instead of a transform one, I'm starting to love summon echoes more and more as well, it doesn't cut into your character's on field capabilities as much as transform echoes and in high difficulty fights they are much more consistently usable to give you their buffs!
Because you can get a lot of crit damage on rolls and do about the same amount of damage, calcharro doesn't proc jinyans sword ability as consistently. So really it's just a bit more damage at a higher cost. standard weapon benefits him best on everything including the ability, giving you more ults, that's why i said standard weapon does just as much. Not the same numbers but the same amount of dps, calcharoo goes ham in his ult, so if you get more ults than someone who has jinyans weapon? do the math
I have both of them but I enjoy Calcharo more for now. Funnily enough my favorite character gameplay wise for now is Spectro Rover :D I think as far as actual power level goes, Jiyan will be stronger with equal amounts of investment, and against non Aero resistant enemies. It's generally how it goes in gacha games, limited DPS tend to be the premium and standard DPS fall off faster from meta :D
BiS isn’t a lustrous blade what are you talking about? The BiS is autumn trace not the 5 star. Pls do not make ppl roll with the misinformation. Crit rate is crucial to calcharo not purely attack which the 5 star lus blade has.
You're ignoring the passive and focusing entirely on the crit rate aspect of it. Crit rate is pretty easy to get a reasonable amount of, but resonance liberation bonus damage and energy regen are both cruicial for calcharo's damage, and are much harder to get (plus you're not really looking for those as substats compared to crit substats / mainstat) Not to mention Autumntrace isn't free to play since it's locked behind battlepass, while you don't even need to technically roll to get the Lustrous Razor down the line. edit: AND the 5 star weapons have a much higher base ATK stat which further pushes the actual damage numbers in favor of Lustrous Razor when compared to Autumntrace
This is not true. Look at the scaling chart for Calcharo BIS. When it is compared versus Lustrous Blade R1, autumntrace only can output around 91.7%. The only way that autumntrace becomes better (115.4% of the R1 lustrous), is an R5 Autumntrace (which is locked behind potentially 2 more 20$ BP). BIS atm for Calcharo is clearly Jiyan signature, but some may opt for Lustrous blade too since Calcharo can easily modify the crit with the 44111 build.
@@dr_misc Not quite true. Atk is far more common then crit rate hence why ppl value crit rate on echo so much. And cal forte has crit dmg thus giving crit rate higher priority. That itself scale more over its passive. But yeah it’s behind a paywall but just saying that’s the BiS. The 5 star broadsword ain’t worth to get. You are better off taking the sword from the selector which once again give crit rate and that’s the best weapon from the selector box. And imagine having 100% crit.. that’s gonna be insane and I think it’s hard to kinda cap it just based on on echo alone provided u get many lines of crit rate.. and the passive of autumn blade seem really good too… because u gotta remb the best weapon in that 5 star selector is the sword not the broadsword. So in this case banner wep and autumn trace are a better pick if you can save use the selector for the crit rate sword. I guess?😅
Just a suggestion, when suggesting a guide for moveset combos, try putting on screen some icons or label (visual cue) for each move/button that will be pressed. Just like a command list from Tekken practice mode. Will probably be appreciated by lots of viewers imo
I definitely will do that, honestly it just felt like too much hassle but I guess it does improve the viewing experience quite a bit :D
@@dr_miscif u want to compete with everyone else making content on this game put it in that extra “hassle” ❤
What about tempest he is good too I use it
@@zzemain facts brother
@@solplayer5251 I think in practice Tempest Mephis echo might actually be better for a few boss fights where you don't have the opportunity to actually get all the attacks of Thundering Mephis out in time without getting punished.
I've been playing around with a 2pc + 2pc with the Mech Abomination as my active echo recently and actually like it more than any of the Mephis ones in practice, the theoretical dps is lower but it is MUCH easier to have 100% uptime on the buff in practice, and to get it's damage out on the bosses.
The vast majority of guides only say obvious stuff that is just common sense, but it's hard to find a guide that actually gives you specific combat tips like this :)
Combat for him pretty simple, you want to use his resonance skill, on timing 3 times then heavy attack them his liberation skill then 5 attacks then heavy attack then repeat until he his back in normal state dodging with him for his dodge counter does great dmg as well
I agree! Aside from missing visual cues, this is the best guide out there! Even goes over various f2p weapons!!! Liked this video a lot :))
Finally someone has done a guide for Calcharo. I've read, but never seen that there is a window 5 sequence attack during ultimate for optional character switch. Looking forward to updates. Thank you for guide
I didn't even know there is a difference between jump and dash canceling, thanks for the guide!
ty finally a guide that explains combos
THANK YOU i've been waiting since release for something like this. every content creator talks about how you have to utilize cancels for calcharo but NONE of them explain the cancels themselves
I find swap canceling his full stack heavy attack to be pretty useful
i love doing that yeah, was hoping for this video to finally cover all its uses and optimizations
@@UnusGrunus haha yeah I was thinking the same thing, it's probably because you want to be going into your ult phase with full stacks but it's fun for open world stuff, especially with sanhua.
Yeah I called it when I was talking to my friends about how pgr has these selectors and had a feeling that if that was anything to go off of then this game would do the same thing
Almost have access to 5 star echos and i got lucky and got jiyans weapon really early. Thanks for making this guide, im gonna make my calcharo cracked
Thank you so much for the cancel guide! Subscribed immediately. I always hear people saying “Calcharo is hard cause you need to cancel his animations or you won’t get his full potential” but nobody ever explained how. Also, for the sub-DPS I think Jianxin is good. She buffs resonance liberation and also gives a pretty good shield and has some cc with her burst.
His best teammate by far is Yinlin though but she comes after Jiyan though. Yinlin buffs electro damage and resonance liberation and just is perfect for him and they have the best synergy ingame. She also does great damage. I’d get her if I were you!
Sadly I didn't roll Jianxin so couldn't test them together, that does sound like a potent combo though. I'll be on the lookout for Yinlin if I have enough pulls and luck on my side :D
He didn't explain it either lol. His guide seems to be based on how he likes to use him rather than the "meta" way to use him or what every seems to have heard about him.
Perfect! This is just what I needed right now as he is my main. Got quads of him already so it's gonna be so worth maxing him out :D
pretty sure theory crafters currently have r5 battlepass weapon as his BiS
Have to say. Got standard broad blade in at pity 4. Used it for half a day, gambling addiction kicks in, pull jiyan sword, get jiyan sword at pity 7 again, profits
I got Calcharo duplicate on Jiyan's banner and 3 pulls later got Jiyan, sometimes you just get blessed by the RNGods :D
Jiyan sword is not good on Calcharo, it only buff the charge atk damage but Calcharo CA is considered resonance liberation damage while in the burst state, basically he don't use the passive of that weapon, is only a stat stick, his best in slot is the battle pass one, currently is the only broadblade that provides crit rate and the passive is really good on him, they change the type of damage on purpose to nerf jiyan weapon on him
@@Mordred_King you can’t say it’s not good on him. A stat stick is a still a stat stick. And no f2p’s gonna buy pass. I don’t care about meta anyway. Jiyan sig still gives crit dmg. Just farm mephis to get crit rate. So easy lah. And that battle pass weapon only gets better than jiyan sig at r5
@@stevet6975 getting crit rate from ecos only is to hard and reaching 80% crit rate right now without a weapon is almost impossible, you have to equip the 4‐4-1-1-1 build wich is not optimal to reach decent crit rate, honestly that's one of my biggest complain, the lack of good weapons is a problem
Thank you for the guide, I'm new so I'm confused at what the terms are I wish on the next guides there would be an indicator for skills and attack icons for the combos.
It'll be there! :D
@@dr_misc Thank you looking forward to the next guides haha. im still confused on how to properly use my characters haha i just kept button mashing
If it is possible, i think lots of people would agree if we had a visual clue of combos, because for me as a bad listener its hard to comprehend all of what you said without coming a few seconds before in the video
Great guide! Keep up the good work :D
Yow man thank you! I hope your channel blows up!
Thanks a lot for the kind words man! All I can do is put in the work and as long as the content is good I hope the viewers will be happy :D
Great quality content.
finally someone that showcases how to play him and combos, thanks
Dude try doing shorts with your combos that will be super dope!
The tempest will give you less burst with echo skill and ult. I prefer the 2 hits from it but you do lose damage on you biggest hitting skills
I run a 4-4-1-1-1 build for my cal because that give double the crit rate and he one of the few chars that can run that build, since thundering Memphis and tempest Memphis is different bosses it’s a pretty op build
It would be nice if you put texts in combo, overall great guide
Ill have it for the next character guide!
The only guide that teaches you how to use the move sets properly doubts I could do it on my phone, but it's nice to know
You didn't watch the video...
You mentioned that his ult autos are considered Resonance liberation damage, but that is wrong (according to the tooltip at least) - they are considered as basic attack damage.
You are right, my bad!
Nice, I got Calcharo from the 30 pull beginner banner and then decided to put him as my choice for the extra banner and I ended up getting 2 copies of him from a 10 pull at 40/80. So now I have him at W2. I got Jiyan in 11 pulls as well so I fully intend to pull for Jiyans weapon to use between the two
I was wondering how to maximize my usage of him
Will you do an advanced guide for Jiyan? Would like to know some advanced combos and stuff like in this video. Also very great video.
Yep, the next 2 characters I want to do a guide for are Jiyan and Rover (both Spectro and Havoc)
@@dr_misc THX im excited for them
i prefer tempest mephis less on field time and i like using his heavy attack which tempest mephis buffs a lot
Helo question, nirnal is 4331 the echo right, so why are the 3 echo power both of them is electro? Or the elemental damage??, in genshin term there shkuld only be 1 echo or build/item wirh elemental damage not 2,so why 2 elemental damage on echo on the 3 in wuthering waves??
Question: you said we can cancel dodge counter into resonance skill but how exactly do we do that? Do you just activate resonance skill while you are in the middle of the dodge counter animation? Or do you also need to cancel the dodge counter animation with a dodge and then activate the resonance skill?
Just do skill after your dodge counter hits!
Bosses take 3 min to respawn, not 1 min.
Q: Thundering memphis echo skill, Does the final strike has to hit a target to get the resonance liberation buff?
Yep, if you want a faster paced option go for the Tempest Mephis, or if you need a REALLY fast paced one pick either the Electro Predator or the Flautist (Flautist has some nice quickswap tech with it, pretty fun to play around with!)
Which is more important? Crit dmg or Crit Rate? I can't decide help me thanks! COOL VIDEO BTW!
It's ideal to go for a 1:2 ratio, but generally speaking for most content so far in the game, as long as you just stack crit rate youll be fine. Calcharo also has crit damage in his fortes, so getting crit rate from other sources is more important than crit damage!
Subbed. Great guide
hi Dr.Misc... how about Tempest mephist echo ? The twin of thundering xD. Problem with Thundering Mephist is that he hits multiple time and is not good for fast swaping (u lose hits from him if u swap). While Tempest Jumps and hits once and good for swaping characters.
I like that echo too, but my favorite now is actually the mech abomination one with a 2pc + 2pc! :D
@@dr_misc aoe goes boom boom right :D
Nice video, I also want to know if it would be a good idea to get him some copies
Also, I can't wait for her gf... I mean, his partner
How would I use cancels to get three heavy attacks per liberation?
I have a huge doubt guys, when Calcharo uses his resonance liberations, are their attacks considered basic or heavy attacks?. I have been using Mortefi lately buy I am not sure if it boosts my Calcharo. Hope you can guide me.
The enhanced heavy is considered as liberation damage (at least i think thats what it says in game!) and the enhanced basic attacks are considered basic attacks! Mortefi is not very good with Calcharo IMO, you could use Sanhua, Yinlin if you have her, or Jianxin instead, or run a dual DPS comp and use a sub dps like Rover, Chixia, or even Danjin.
@@dr_misc do you recommend Sahua over the others?. I dont have Yinlin
@@einghelgonzalez3063 Sanhua is fine if you have her built, she also allows you to play both quickswap and hypercarry playstyle with Calcharo so even better!
@@dr_misc Thanks brother. I really need this. I fucked it up rushing the wrong 5 star weapon. I thought esmerald weapon would work with Calcharo but is not even compatible. The critic bonuses made me blind. But well, what is done is done. I used Calcharo, Mortefi and Verina but I guess that due to the stupid mistake I will have to build Sahua now.
@@einghelgonzalez3063 Jiyan's weapon is still very good on Calcharo so don't feel bad, its only a bit worse than his best in slot! :D
A question about the BP weapon Autumntrace, it says in passive that the atk increase is triggered by basic atk (or heavy atk) DMG, does it still work during Calcharo ultimate, because his basics are now ult dmg?
I can't say for sure since I don't have the weapon yet, but if I remember I'll come back to you once I do get it :D
@@dr_misc Okay thank you! Yeah some description in the game isn't specific enough.
I'm still conflicted on which weapons (BP/Standard 5*) I should give Calcharo/Yinlin. Or if I should just wait 2 BP for them both, and choose the standard 5* sword later, because it's more OP.
Maybe I'll also try couple multis in Yinlin weapon banner since it's also op. Btw nice guide man, keep it up!
@@dr_misc Sorry for the ping again, so I've asked around prydwen server, and their calcs sheet shows that during Calcharo's ult, his basic atk spam is still counted as basic atk DMG, while only his "heavy atk" (forte clearance) during his ult is counted as ult damage! So that means the BP weapon works on him, but again, if you were to get that weapon, please do tell me! 🙏
@@nerotv836 thats good to know, I'll definitely keep that in mind if I do an updated Calcharo guide later in the future once we get more content in the game!
Will there be a Lingyang guide? that's the main dps I chose and been looking around for guides
I actually have Lingyang but I haven't leveled him up yet - I do plan on eventually making an advanced guide for every character I have though!
Isnt doing the echo skill of thundering memphis before using anything better because the increase of electro damage?
That depends if you have passive stacks up or not! If you do, then yes, but if you don't, you are wasting too much of the buff uptime on smaller attacks and won't have much of the duration left for the big money shots during your Resonance Liberation.
for the echo , i remember i saw someone said that the main echo in this vid is not good for him because that echo need to hit 6 time to activate the passive , or has it been changed already?
Nope, that is correct! You are better off using either Tempest Mephis or one of the summon echoes!
@@dr_misc ooo ok
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wouldn't it be better to start with a CA to get one stack of void thunder? Or is it a waste?
So the outro skill of the wind monk doesn’t work for his resonance liberation ?
so is it 4 3 3 1 1 or 4 4 1 1 1 ? which is better ill have to find another video with echo xp being so scarce i dont wann do the math myself -.-
43311 is generally going to be better because 60% damage bonus applies even when you don't crit, 44111 is more of a specialist build if you want to push close to 100% crit rate
@@dr_misc thx man and yea i saw that in another video can you make it more clear cut next time what is THE optimal one? only min maxers watch guides like these i think but thats just my opinion i have no idea how to do youtube haha
Lost me at cancelling
In the game it says that in ult form basic attacks are considered as basic attacks and not ult dmg. Is this an error
Nope, I think there was a misunderstanding with what I meant in the video - I meant that leveling his resonance liberation forte will boost the damage that your enhanced basic attack does. Leveling his basic attack will NOT boost that, but the people letting me know in the comments that his enhanced basic attacks count as basic attacks when it comes to checking for damage bonuses are correct! So basically basic attack damage bonus (such as Sanhua outro skill) will boost your enhanced basic attacks, but leveling up your basic attack forte will NOT do that.
so for the stats on the echo the best one are ATK and crit rate?
Atk, crit rate, and electro damage bonus!
Does the benefits from Thundering Memphis only happen after all of its echo attacks or can you cancel mid-attack (e.g. 1 echo hit then dash cancel) and still get the bonuses?
Sadly you need the last attack to hit before you get the bonuses. I thought you don't initially but after testing it I had to actually change the script for the video too :D
This is the exact reason Thundering Memphis has been falling out of favor, especially among the Chinese. They realized first that even though this buff is incredible, actually trying to make it happen in practice is not reliable at all. It's common for that last attack to miss, unless you use it at a perfect opportunity. So, a shorter sequence echo like Tempest Mephis instead, tends to be far more practical/reliable and end up much better even though it's buffs are not as strong.
@@ShinShakti yeah for hologram bosses ive been using the electro shooter guy lately, summon echoes or fast transform echoes feel way better
Everyone calling Calcharo Sephiroth meanwhile I call him Kenjaku
He's literally vergil (devil may cry)
Same here Kenjaku the goat
You are just wrong, Verdant summit is better then Lustrous Razor. His best main echo is not Thundering Mephis but Tempest Mephis due to the time you need to get the buff. Also i think it s worth explaining that even though after you use resonance liberations you start to use different attacks with different multipliers they are still considered as basic attack.
What is your opinion on animation cancel during ult combo? most people say calcharo need animation cancel ult for maximum dmg but nobody i see seems to teach how to do it
I think people are misguided for now on how "dps" or "max damage" works in this game.
It's not like Genshin with almost completely passive enemies or unkillable Zhongli shield team comps where you can just ignore boss mechanics (at least for now, maybe later it will turn into that).
So far from what I experienced, you only get 1 "true" dps window per boss fight, and maybe 3-4 smaller ones, other than that almost all your actual damage is going to be coming from many small instances of dodge counters and resonance skill/basic attack in higher difficulty content.
To give a good analogy, thinking about trying to maximize your damage output by learning tech like that is like trying to make your cake taste better by putting 1 single piece of strawberry on it - sure, it can help, but thats not where the taste is coming from for the entire cake :D
im waiting for days for a guide but so far from my experience, its by far the most fun and possibly best play style to swap into other characters almost every time he goes for that plunge attack, you get so many outro and intro skills in between your combos that buff your team (you can do it 3 times during his ult alone), i simply cant believe this is not a more optimal way to play him. but again im sure there will be guides out soon. and IF this solo playstyle turns out to be more optimal im dropping this character since i find that boring anyway haha
@@UnusGrunus I think swap cancelling it will be optimal, but for now since the game is new solo is better ONLY because you probably don't have resources to fully build 2 teams yet, so most people should focus on 2 main DPS-es so you can clear tower of adversity and cover elemental resistances vs hologram bosses.
does calcharo ultimate enhanced attack scales off?
In kit it says basic attack DMG but the modifiers r under his liberation
Based on my testing it's Resonance Liberation, and NOT Basic Attack
@@dr_misc thanks for the reply I also think the same. But I am quite confused as it's mentioned on the kit that it treated as BA damage . It maybe a tl error .... But like depending on the scaling my support option gotta change .
Which skill is Resonance Libereation?
its his ultimate! (when you transform and have enhanced basic attacks)
@@dr_misc I thought forte was his ultimate
i got him a craftable 4 star weapon
i think its decent on him
How can i get that sword for Calcharo
Sadly its a non-boosted gacha roll. I just got lucky with it. Thankfully, it's not really better than any of the weapons I mentioned in the video (except maybe the 3 star ones) so you're not missing out on much :D
are you truly sure that jiyan weapon is less effective on calcharo than the standard 5 star weapon Lustrous razor ?
In practice, yes, as far as spreadsheet maths goes, possibly not. It's better in practice because you get energy regen AND resonance liberation damage bonus off of it - and Calcharo's damage mostly comes from Resonance Liberation damage. Both getting access to your burst damage window faster, and getting a 14% bump to it is way better than whatever crit damage you get from Jiyan's weapon (keep in mind you get ATK% from the standard 5* weapon which while not as valuable overall as Crit DMG, is still closer than Crit DMG and ATK% weapons in Genshin for example)
@@dr_miscBut Jiyan’s weapon gives you straight up 12% dmg up and 48% heavy atk dmg up on top of higher base atk and CD. I think you’re putting too much stock into the 12.8% ER which isn’t much on its own and has to be bolstered by substats to really make much of a difference right?
Why do some recommend the flute echo?
It's a summon echo instead of a transform one, I'm starting to love summon echoes more and more as well, it doesn't cut into your character's on field capabilities as much as transform echoes and in high difficulty fights they are much more consistently usable to give you their buffs!
Will he be good with the new girl (Vera)? I think Im gonna save for her
I'ma be real brother I have no clue what her skillset is so can't really answer that sorry :D
@@dr_misc I see I thought you played the beta
I've seen that jiyans weapon does more damage on calcharo than the standard weapon, so what makes you say otherwise?
Because you can get a lot of crit damage on rolls and do about the same amount of damage, calcharro doesn't proc jinyans sword ability as consistently. So really it's just a bit more damage at a higher cost. standard weapon benefits him best on everything including the ability, giving you more ults, that's why i said standard weapon does just as much. Not the same numbers but the same amount of dps, calcharoo goes ham in his ult, so if you get more ults than someone who has jinyans weapon? do the math
So how will u heal if u stay low hp ?
Just don't get hit brother ezy :DDD
can you use Jianxin + Verina for him?
YESS!! start with jianxin, get your shield and swap to verina, use ultimate and finish with calcharo
@@silentsailent just tested it and holy hell that damage is insane xD
Tempest Mephis is better, it uses way less time than the thundering mephis. Only requires 2 attacks while being the same set
what the hell do you mean by not strictly free to play? it your buy the battlepass, thats not free to play.
Yeah, if you are not free to play, you can buy the battlepass, we are saying the same thing? :D
Calcharo or jixan?
I have both of them but I enjoy Calcharo more for now. Funnily enough my favorite character gameplay wise for now is Spectro Rover :D
I think as far as actual power level goes, Jiyan will be stronger with equal amounts of investment, and against non Aero resistant enemies.
It's generally how it goes in gacha games, limited DPS tend to be the premium and standard DPS fall off faster from meta :D
what
BiS isn’t a lustrous blade what are you talking about? The BiS is autumn trace not the 5 star. Pls do not make ppl roll with the misinformation. Crit rate is crucial to calcharo not purely attack which the 5 star lus blade has.
isn’t autumn trace battle pass tho? not everyone is spending money on that
You're ignoring the passive and focusing entirely on the crit rate aspect of it. Crit rate is pretty easy to get a reasonable amount of, but resonance liberation bonus damage and energy regen are both cruicial for calcharo's damage, and are much harder to get (plus you're not really looking for those as substats compared to crit substats / mainstat)
Not to mention Autumntrace isn't free to play since it's locked behind battlepass, while you don't even need to technically roll to get the Lustrous Razor down the line.
edit: AND the 5 star weapons have a much higher base ATK stat which further pushes the actual damage numbers in favor of Lustrous Razor when compared to Autumntrace
This is not true. Look at the scaling chart for Calcharo BIS. When it is compared versus Lustrous Blade R1, autumntrace only can output around 91.7%. The only way that autumntrace becomes better (115.4% of the R1 lustrous), is an R5 Autumntrace (which is locked behind potentially 2 more 20$ BP). BIS atm for Calcharo is clearly Jiyan signature, but some may opt for Lustrous blade too since Calcharo can easily modify the crit with the 44111 build.
@@saruwasser we are talking about BiS right now not about being f2p or not tho?
@@dr_misc Not quite true. Atk is far more common then crit rate hence why ppl value crit rate on echo so much. And cal forte has crit dmg thus giving crit rate higher priority. That itself scale more over its passive. But yeah it’s behind a paywall but just saying that’s the BiS. The 5 star broadsword ain’t worth to get. You are better off taking the sword from the selector which once again give crit rate and that’s the best weapon from the selector box. And imagine having 100% crit.. that’s gonna be insane and I think it’s hard to kinda cap it just based on on echo alone provided u get many lines of crit rate.. and the passive of autumn blade seem really good too… because u gotta remb the best weapon in that 5 star selector is the sword not the broadsword. So in this case banner wep and autumn trace are a better pick if you can save use the selector for the crit rate sword. I guess?😅
He is too weak 😢. I feel so sad
Don't believe the haters, he is OP brother! :D