Interesting.. I'm 230 pounds on the bike and currently ride a HT LT CC with a 160mm Fox 38. It was a big upgrade over the stock 36, but I'd love to try this out.
I have had my rfx m2 36 (coil) for 1.5 years, i will never ever go back to air or fox again! Switched from a fox factory kashima 150mm to 170mm on my stumpjumper. @jeff, you can switch between air/coil as often as you like to!! Please please try a coil setup on the fork, it will make you go back upp to have a look if if was a gnarly rockgarden or a piece of cotton you just smashed through.. as you stated ”i prefer a softer fork for traction”, well then there is only one option for you, really! To every one setting up a ohlins fork! The reconended settings are rqce performance oriented, if you are a mere mortal or like jeff and like traction and no armpump, go lower on the settings, i would say start at 10kg lower then your recomended settings in the manual! Much love!
Much like they do with their moto stuff. They have a bank of compression and rebound tunes that a service center can drop in. Especially with you collecting data. Sounds like they could adjust the damping pretty easily to hit your desired sweet spot. Always enjoy your videos, keep it up!
Thanks for this great review again! I switched from a 2018 Fox 36 Grip 2 to the Öhlins RXF 36 m.2 to try something different. Unfortunately I experienced the same overdamping for my low 68 kg bodyweight and could not find a sweet setup in a few month. I got an offer to tune the damping unit for 400 €, but after spending 1,300 € for the fork, I sold the Ö. Now very happy again with a 2021 Fox 36. I think the Ö is, like you said, a true racing fork for people with a proper bodyweight and aggressive riding style, too.
@@elidenning6276 Vital Mtb did a review of Ext era, I have the one, it's great my conclusion is the same as theirs. But nothing wrong with more reviews and not eibfo to compare. But I love it. Very sensitive and plush yet very supportive. Feels stiffer less twist than fox 36, but I only notice that when doing fakies, but I notice the lack of stiction. I've not tried DVO, but not tried Stock fox fork i had Vorsprung Smashpoy in it. I think the spring was too firm for me, as the Ext is as supportive but much pusher and sensitive. But the Fox creaked horribly. But I did not film the last riding I did on it.
Ohlins has been a racing suspension force since automotive since the 70s. Motos too. Nice to see them making suspension components for other, diverse application. I can see how they approach this from the auto/moto side. You can't adjust by taking the thing apart all the time. No plastic tokens or volume reducers are possible in an automotive application. All valving and chamber engineering. I hope they do well in this segment.
Hey Jeff! You were complaining about the small bump compliance. Well, the Ohlins air springs come with a negative air chamber spacer installed that you can remove to improve small bump sensitivity. You will see the white spacer in that blue collar on the air spring. You may have to take the seal head off to remove it although the service manual recommends pushing it out with compressed air and then pulling the split-spacer off with your hands.
Gonna stop here on the middle of the video to comment on how incredible your riding on the Ripmo with the 170mm set up is. "Balletic" is the word that comes to mind. Yeah, a racing fork, and you're just... Wow. 👍
If you have an ebike in your stable right now, this may be a good match for it. The added heft of the bike should utilize the supportive nature of this fork, particularly on some rowdy trails.
Dude, great idea! I don't currently have an eBike (and I have a couple requests out...) but I agree, that makes sense!!! The fork works awesome, and was more awesome when I had a backpack on... And when Logan rode it (he's 140lbs) he wasn't a fan. Ohlins has come soooo close to beating Fox with this, if they adjust their damping window ever so slightly they'd probably be my first choice.
Hey Jeff, really looking forward to your long term Evil review. You have 3 of the most popular bikes in the mud travel category, could you give some in depth comparisons between the Evil, Rip, and SB130? I think a lot of people would love a comparison between the three. We know you ride at another level above the most but it’s still fun to hear what people of your stature think of these bikes! Thanks for all the great video’s you do!!
Having ridden a few other 3chamber forks... There is generally a quite slim airpressure window for the main to get it feel right... Also dont be afraid to get quite low with the main and basically use the ram from the midstroke on. Lastly as you run lower main pressure and the ramp chamber goes out of effect way before topout the fork returns not as fast as a normal air spring... You can run the rebound insane fast and still be perfectly controlled... Also upping the smallbump by doing that.
God damn it Jeff... It's 3AM and I wanna sleep already! :D Great review as usual, been interested in your opinion ever since you teased it. Happy trails!
Manitou Mezzer has left me not wanting to try any other suspension. Have had Fox, Rockshox, and DVO. The Mezzer set up properly (not easy to do) is on a league of its own.
I considered buying one of these forks but I’m glad you’ve said what you have about the rider weight thing. I’m a scrawny dude at 120lbs so it’s good to know that I probably shouldn’t go for it. Guess I’ll go the basic route and get a Fox 36 like everyone else lol.
Have an rxf 36 evo on my hardtail and it is fairly rowdy. I've really struggled to get the neg air spring in harmony with the main. Happy to see you go through this run down as I dig your ride style. I have a 2020 fox factory 36 grip 2 on my yeti sb 5.5 as a comparison and I have many of the same findings you do, but I have also noticed that I bottom out more often... my rider weight is around 190 with hip pack and I think I need to do more tuning, I'm just not clear as to where to go from where I am...
Alex, thanks for the note! I'd think that at 190, and on a hardtail where the fork gets even more force, that it'd be working OK for ya. if you're bottoming too often, try going to 1 click of HSC. I found that running about 15 psi less than the factory rec worked well in the main chamber, and I'm like 20 psi less in the bottom chamber.
I have this fork paired with the ttx18 air shock on my mondraker foxy. at just under 200lbs fully kitted, I kind of agree with most of Jeff's assessments here. it takes a bit to really dial in, and it's not a super plush "sofa" of a fork, so if that's what you are looking for, look elsewhere. what I do love about it over a fox 36 is it's high speed, high frequency composure. it's just so much more settled through chatter and successive medium-large chunky hits. This could be a function of being more in sync with the rear end of the bike too.
Hi Jeff! You did not try to take out the white spacer on the negative chamber? It's only one spacer on it to improve the small bump senisitivity. I've seen it on some youtube channels.
Jeff, you really should try the coil spring in this fork (one of the big benefits of the Öhlins forks is the ability to go back and forth between an air cartridge and a coil). It will address the harshness you felt and probably make better use of the supportive damping tune. In terms of cost, while you will need to find the right spring (i.e. buying more than one spring), the nice thing with the coil is you can change the travel on the coil shaft, so no additional spend required to change travel.
Right on Sonik, I'm a little curious about that fork. The air spring felt great on this, and the ability to set it to ride a little higher in the travel was cool. Seems like that feature would be lost on the coil, but it'd also put a tad more weight on the damper, so I wonder if it'd end up being a better set up?
@@JeffKendallWeed I'm on the M.2 coil and love it. Still high in the travel but much more cosy than any air fork. Give it a try but take a lower spring rate that Öhlins say :)
I just got another V1 Ripmo - XT Build, with Factory Fox suspension. My LBS was telling me that if I Google a code that is printed on the Suspension I will find specfic tuning for my specific Fork/Shock? I never heard of this. Jeff, would you suggest I follow these tuning specs over anything else ( even Ibis?) ?? Thanks
hey jeff. im 115 pound's and have a fox 38 right now, just wondering if you think the ohlins would be ok? i had it on another one of my bikes but it wasn't exactly the same though u really liked it. i know you said that if you were lighter it wouldn't be great so i was wondering what fork you would recommend? not a fig fan of the fox but that being said i probably shouldn't of gotten the 38. look forward to hearing from you thanks!
Do you always use all your travel on the front and back? I run a 160mm Fox 36 performance and I never use all the travel up front. I've lowered air pressure and still not using it all. I know I've tried to use it all! The question I have is, should I be using it all?! I like a simple set up, so I've been running it like this for a while, but just curious of your opinion. Thanks!!!
Nope. After venturing away and trying DVO (crap) I will just stay with Fox. Great video buddy even though I’m not going to try them I love watching your stuff
I'm really keen on this fork. Ohlins has so much pedigree....and I'm a bigger, heavier guy so it might suit me. I have one question from the vid: I would have thought a "racers' set-up" IS a "traction set-up" ? Why would a racer want a lower traction suspension set-up?
Hey Jeff, check out the Mezzer pro, on sale 60% off on chain reaction cycles. As a heavier 200lbs+ rider this is the "first" fork that i've had "true" mid stroke support while keeping suppleness off the top. Be warned the triple air chamber is incredibly sensitive to pressure changes. Patience is required to fine tune :). Make sure to fill the air chamber in the correct order(as per the manual).
Hola bro, en poco tiempo compraré esra horquilla. Me encanta!! Tengo kenevo expert ebike, amortiguador ollins es una pasada, grácias por los contenidos y un saludo desde españa!!
Jeff, How well does the motion instruments tuner get you dialed in? Worth the $$$? Any idea if the Enduro 1 will work for a 160mm fork and a 170mm fork?
Hey Rok, the MI system works awesome, and the price isn't too bad. However, it's really only needed when you're setting up a new bike or fork. I don't think set ups from area to area are going to differ all that much, but if you get a new fork/frame every few months, this is a nice tool to have.
The Evil is a good bike, but it's better for bike park riding or those who like wheels-on-the-ground, maximum traction. The Yeti rewards my active, pumpy and jumpy style a little more. On the flip side, bike park boy wouldn't be as excited about the Yeti. As they say, horses for courses!
BB height is same, but I didn't air up the shock more so the extra initial leverage has me sitting a little lower into the travel at sag. The link is OK, but at this point I don't think it's a necessary upgrade or even a huge improvement over stock. Keep in mind, absolute plushness is not my goal with suspension.
I haven't looked into it. For the price of this fork, I was hoping that at 170 lbs, I would be within stock parameters. It's not far off, but I wanted to let my viewers know that if they are much lighter than me they should look elsewhere. And on the flipside, heavier folk might do really, really well with this fork.
@@JeffKendallWeed I am curious if some tuning could be done to solve that, or if adjusting the settings and pressure can help. Have you do alot of testing with that? Too much damping? Not something I've experienced I guess.
One other reason that the ohlins is a little off for you could be your very rear biased riding style, my guess is riders with a neutral stance would pair better with the fork.
Go DVO onyx if you have a Ripmo, it's heavy but super customizable, and once you get it dialed it rules. Also has a small shock inside for off the top sensitivity adjust to really eliminate trail chatter
Forcing the oil past shims on the main piston creates a lot of pressure interference, high vacuum, friction & heat, etc. Everybody knows this. They work around this issue but it is always there! TTx design moves away from this entirely! Ohlins is the only company to look at a shock absorber as it has been for many years & say that it could work better. So now there is TTx design & then there is every other shock in the world with the same old issues!
lol Ben, my regular music service just tripled my price since my subscriber count has increased slightly, so I had to find a new provider. Still learning how to navigate the new catalog!
Can you Anglo-Saxons at some point learn how to pronounce Öhlins? It’s not Ooolins, ö is a distinct character in our alphabet and is pronounced the way the French pronounce the oe combination, like œuf.
@@JeffKendallWeed try a hayes dominion A4 - in any way better than a saint or code and also quiet. No noise at any weather or temp - with the metalic pad's :)
@@th_js also not pronounced right. Actually he pronounces it Ohlins or Åhlins o and å can be the same sound in but not always. Å=ohh but O can also sound like that like Moss which a city but sounds like the English word Moss. Åpen=open I can't think of anything with nordic O but O can sound different. But the Ö in Öhlins is the same as Ø in Norway, English uses this sound. Like in girl, bird, bust, must, just, crust. Vital MTB did a review of the fork too, the guy doing the review is a swede, he pronounces it perfectly.
@@mtbboy1993 Exactly. Although here in Finland we call "Å" "ruotsalainen O", which means "Swedish O". As Jeff is American, I understand the mishap perfectly, though and it's not that bad. And yup, "Ohlins" is the O like in "door", "cove", "more" and "shore", whereas the correct way (Ö) is the same as in "Girl", "bird", etc, like you said. Also, Americans often murder the rest of the word too, for example, they say (pronounced the Finnish way): "Oulins", which means they leave the "h" out almost completely and add an unnecessary "u" to the word.. Completely pointless ramblings here, but we've now processed it and the case is closed. :)
Would have been neat to have a motion instruments transducer on the rear shock , record some run with a 36 , leave the shock as it is then change the fork for the ohlins , do some runs again to show what effect changing the fork has on the rear shock . Great vid though
Have you ridden an Ohlins fork yet? What did you think?
You did a great review!
Interesting.. I'm 230 pounds on the bike and currently ride a HT LT CC with a 160mm Fox 38. It was a big upgrade over the stock 36, but I'd love to try this out.
@@AZMTB Ohlins have rxf 38
I have had my rfx m2 36 (coil) for 1.5 years, i will never ever go back to air or fox again! Switched from a fox factory kashima 150mm to 170mm on my stumpjumper.
@jeff, you can switch between air/coil as often as you like to!! Please please try a coil setup on the fork, it will make you go back upp to have a look if if was a gnarly rockgarden or a piece of cotton you just smashed through.. as you stated ”i prefer a softer fork for traction”, well then there is only one option for you, really!
To every one setting up a ohlins fork! The reconended settings are rqce performance oriented, if you are a mere mortal or like jeff and like traction and no armpump, go lower on the settings, i would say start at 10kg lower then your recomended settings in the manual!
Much love!
Hey, I am waiting for my coil version! Can’t wait to get it!
Jeff: Posts a suspension fork review video
Also Jeff: Manuals through half the action shots of the video
YOu know how we do!
@@JeffKendallWeed
The fork only exists to assist getting into the manual😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Much like they do with their moto stuff. They have a bank of compression and rebound tunes that a service center can drop in. Especially with you collecting data. Sounds like they could adjust the damping pretty easily to hit your desired sweet spot. Always enjoy your videos, keep it up!
Thanks for this great review again! I switched from a 2018 Fox 36 Grip 2 to the Öhlins RXF 36 m.2 to try something different. Unfortunately I experienced the same overdamping for my low 68 kg bodyweight and could not find a sweet setup in a few month. I got an offer to tune the damping unit for 400 €, but after spending 1,300 € for the fork, I sold the Ö. Now very happy again with a 2021 Fox 36. I think the Ö is, like you said, a true racing fork for people with a proper bodyweight and aggressive riding style, too.
The thing that would interest me the most would be a formula fork review
Same, or ext/dvo
@@elidenning6276 Vital Mtb did a review of Ext era, I have the one, it's great my conclusion is the same as theirs. But nothing wrong with more reviews and not eibfo to compare. But I love it. Very sensitive and plush yet very supportive. Feels stiffer less twist than fox 36, but I only notice that when doing fakies, but I notice the lack of stiction. I've not tried DVO, but not tried Stock fox fork i had Vorsprung Smashpoy in it. I think the spring was too firm for me, as the Ext is as supportive but much pusher and sensitive. But the Fox creaked horribly. But I did not film the last riding I did on it.
Ohlins has been a racing suspension force since automotive since the 70s. Motos too. Nice to see them making suspension components for other, diverse application. I can see how they approach this from the auto/moto side. You can't adjust by taking the thing apart all the time. No plastic tokens or volume reducers are possible in an automotive application. All valving and chamber engineering. I hope they do well in this segment.
We need to get Jeff to 100K subs! Can't believe he's still only at 66k, best in-depth reviews on the net!
Hardtail Party also does great in-depth reviews. I highly recommend his channel.
The speed you change directions is insane, mad skills
Hey Jeff! You were complaining about the small bump compliance. Well, the Ohlins air springs come with a negative air chamber spacer installed that you can remove to improve small bump sensitivity. You will see the white spacer in that blue collar on the air spring. You may have to take the seal head off to remove it although the service manual recommends pushing it out with compressed air and then pulling the split-spacer off with your hands.
Gonna stop here on the middle of the video to comment on how incredible your riding on the Ripmo with the 170mm set up is. "Balletic" is the word that comes to mind. Yeah, a racing fork, and you're just... Wow. 👍
Wow, thank you, I appreciate that!!! Been missing the Ripmo, this V2 has been a bit of a garage ornament the last 18 months!
If you have an ebike in your stable right now, this may be a good match for it. The added heft of the bike should utilize the supportive nature of this fork, particularly on some rowdy trails.
Dude, great idea! I don't currently have an eBike (and I have a couple requests out...) but I agree, that makes sense!!! The fork works awesome, and was more awesome when I had a backpack on... And when Logan rode it (he's 140lbs) he wasn't a fan. Ohlins has come soooo close to beating Fox with this, if they adjust their damping window ever so slightly they'd probably be my first choice.
I was excited to see you use this fork, then watched you manual the whole episode. 🤣
Well, I needed to be on brand...
Hey Jeff, really looking forward to your long term Evil review. You have 3 of the most popular bikes in the mud travel category, could you give some in depth comparisons between the Evil, Rip, and SB130? I think a lot of people would love a comparison between the three. We know you ride at another level above the most but it’s still fun to hear what people of your stature think of these bikes!
Thanks for all the great video’s you do!!
That intro music was great, lol. Ok now on to more substantive discussions....
Having ridden a few other 3chamber forks... There is generally a quite slim airpressure window for the main to get it feel right... Also dont be afraid to get quite low with the main and basically use the ram from the midstroke on.
Lastly as you run lower main pressure and the ramp chamber goes out of effect way before topout the fork returns not as fast as a normal air spring... You can run the rebound insane fast and still be perfectly controlled... Also upping the smallbump by doing that.
I tried this but went away from it. I might try it again and see.
Yup! I absolutely love my mezzer pro! Insanely good mid stroke support
God damn it Jeff... It's 3AM and I wanna sleep already! :D
Great review as usual, been interested in your opinion ever since you teased it. Happy trails!
Thanks Phobe, where you located?
Cool shirt . Jenson usually gets me next day delivery since I’m in so cal. Awesome company
Manitou Mezzer has left me not wanting to try any other suspension. Have had Fox, Rockshox, and DVO. The Mezzer set up properly (not easy to do) is on a league of its own.
I considered buying one of these forks but I’m glad you’ve said what you have about the rider weight thing. I’m a scrawny dude at 120lbs so it’s good to know that I probably shouldn’t go for it. Guess I’ll go the basic route and get a Fox 36 like everyone else lol.
Great stuff Jeff 😉👌 hopefully you are keeping well over the pond 😜👌 great review buddy 👌
Thanks for watching mate!
Have an rxf 36 evo on my hardtail and it is fairly rowdy. I've really struggled to get the neg air spring in harmony with the main. Happy to see you go through this run down as I dig your ride style.
I have a 2020 fox factory 36 grip 2 on my yeti sb 5.5 as a comparison and I have many of the same findings you do, but I have also noticed that I bottom out more often... my rider weight is around 190 with hip pack and I think I need to do more tuning, I'm just not clear as to where to go from where I am...
Call Ohlins! They've got pretty good customer service and can give you couple options
Alex, thanks for the note! I'd think that at 190, and on a hardtail where the fork gets even more force, that it'd be working OK for ya. if you're bottoming too often, try going to 1 click of HSC. I found that running about 15 psi less than the factory rec worked well in the main chamber, and I'm like 20 psi less in the bottom chamber.
I just got one of these in 170mm, 44mm offset setup for $800. Super stoked
Nice video Jeff super informative. I learned a lot. Thank you. Hope you good!
Just wondering what settings have you settled on for the ohlins fork?
I have this fork paired with the ttx18 air shock on my mondraker foxy. at just under 200lbs fully kitted, I kind of agree with most of Jeff's assessments here. it takes a bit to really dial in, and it's not a super plush "sofa" of a fork, so if that's what you are looking for, look elsewhere. what I do love about it over a fox 36 is it's high speed, high frequency composure. it's just so much more settled through chatter and successive medium-large chunky hits. This could be a function of being more in sync with the rear end of the bike too.
Hi Jeff! You did not try to take out the white spacer on the negative chamber? It's only one spacer on it to improve the small bump senisitivity. I've seen it on some youtube channels.
Jeff, you really should try the coil spring in this fork (one of the big benefits of the Öhlins forks is the ability to go back and forth between an air cartridge and a coil). It will address the harshness you felt and probably make better use of the supportive damping tune.
In terms of cost, while you will need to find the right spring (i.e. buying more than one spring), the nice thing with the coil is you can change the travel on the coil shaft, so no additional spend required to change travel.
Do you know how wide the range is? Is 140 to 170mm possible? Thanks
The coil version comes with a lighter damper set up, might be an option for lighter riders and then get an air cartridge.
Jeff, love the videos mate! I saw you had the Cascade link on your SB130. Any chance of a video reviewing it? I'm considering getting one for my Yeti.
i have the Ohlins 36x160 coil on my hardtail and absolutely love it!
Right on Sonik, I'm a little curious about that fork. The air spring felt great on this, and the ability to set it to ride a little higher in the travel was cool. Seems like that feature would be lost on the coil, but it'd also put a tad more weight on the damper, so I wonder if it'd end up being a better set up?
@@JeffKendallWeed I'm on the M.2 coil and love it. Still high in the travel but much more cosy than any air fork. Give it a try but take a lower spring rate that Öhlins say :)
I just got another V1 Ripmo - XT Build, with Factory Fox suspension.
My LBS was telling me that if I Google a code that is printed on the Suspension I will
find specfic tuning for my specific Fork/Shock? I never heard of this. Jeff, would you
suggest I follow these tuning specs over anything else ( even Ibis?) ?? Thanks
hey jeff. im 115 pound's and have a fox 38 right now, just wondering if you think the ohlins would be ok? i had it on another one of my bikes but it wasn't exactly the same though u really liked it. i know you said that if you were lighter it wouldn't be great so i was wondering what fork you would recommend? not a fig fan of the fox but that being said i probably shouldn't of gotten the 38. look forward to hearing from you thanks!
Such high quality content ⭐️
SrSuntour would be a nive, chip option for us having your point of view!
Do you always use all your travel on the front and back? I run a 160mm Fox 36 performance and I never use all the travel up front. I've lowered air pressure and still not using it all. I know I've tried to use it all! The question I have is, should I be using it all?! I like a simple set up, so I've been running it like this for a while, but just curious of your opinion. Thanks!!!
Open and it up and check for tokens
Nope. After venturing away and trying DVO (crap) I will just stay with Fox. Great video buddy even though I’m not going to try them I love watching your stuff
That little Yeti seems like quite the machine.
That bike has been the surprise of the year!
I'm really keen on this fork. Ohlins has so much pedigree....and I'm a bigger, heavier guy so it might suit me.
I have one question from the vid: I would have thought a "racers' set-up" IS a "traction set-up" ? Why would a racer want a lower traction suspension set-up?
I've wanted to demo a bike with öhlins suspension for a long time. I've ridden a lot with Rock Shocks, Fox, and SR Suntour.
You should try the fox float x it is supposed to be a replacement for the dpx2
You should send one up! I'll gladly try it out hahaha jk, those things don't grow on trees tho...
@@JeffKendallWeed yup😂
Hi Jeff, do you plan to do a review of the rockshox megneg air chamber?
Hey Jeff, check out the Mezzer pro, on sale 60% off on chain reaction cycles. As a heavier 200lbs+ rider this is the "first" fork that i've had "true" mid stroke support while keeping suppleness off the top. Be warned the triple air chamber is incredibly sensitive to pressure changes. Patience is required to fine tune :). Make sure to fill the air chamber in the correct order(as per the manual).
what are your settings at 200lb and at how much travel?
Hey Jeff. You should do a review of the EXT Era fork to compare.
Awesome video 👍 Quality stuff 👌
Can these forks be reshimmed? Sounds like you needed a lighter tune.
Just ever so slightly lighter would be awesome! I bet heavier folks love this fork as is tho.
The have 5 compression tunes and 6 rebound tunes to choose from. Lots of adjustment can be made!
Meta 29, 90kg rider
115psi in main
155psi to 165psi in ramp up
9 LSC from open
7 rebound from closed
1 (or 0) hsc
I weigh 175 would this fork be a good option at 140mm-150mm in my hard tail
Evil offering v1 vs v2 comparison please.
Hola bro, en poco tiempo compraré esra horquilla. Me encanta!! Tengo kenevo expert ebike, amortiguador ollins es una pasada, grácias por los contenidos y un saludo desde españa!!
Jeff, How well does the motion instruments tuner get you dialed in? Worth the $$$? Any idea if the Enduro 1 will work for a 160mm fork and a 170mm fork?
Hey Rok, the MI system works awesome, and the price isn't too bad. However, it's really only needed when you're setting up a new bike or fork. I don't think set ups from area to area are going to differ all that much, but if you get a new fork/frame every few months, this is a nice tool to have.
In Australia, Ohlins 36 are twice the cost of a Fox 36 and 3x the price of a Rockshox 36 fork.
jeff seemed to be riding better and having more fun on the Yeti than the Evil.
The Evil is a good bike, but it's better for bike park riding or those who like wheels-on-the-ground, maximum traction. The Yeti rewards my active, pumpy and jumpy style a little more. On the flip side, bike park boy wouldn't be as excited about the Yeti. As they say, horses for courses!
@@JeffKendallWeed thanks for the explanation. I saw how the yeti had more pop and was more playful off of hits.
How big of a difference did the cascade link make on the sb130 and how is bb height difference?
BB height is same, but I didn't air up the shock more so the extra initial leverage has me sitting a little lower into the travel at sag. The link is OK, but at this point I don't think it's a necessary upgrade or even a huge improvement over stock. Keep in mind, absolute plushness is not my goal with suspension.
I have the same fork....took 3-4 rides to get it tuned right....but once I did, as good of a fork as anyone has..
Please can you review the ext era fork
is the squiking coming from the brakes?
how many clicks do you have set there?
Interesting stuff Jeff, thanks mate.
Could you change the weight of the damper fluid to change the characteristics? That’s pretty common for motorcycles!
I haven't looked into it. For the price of this fork, I was hoping that at 170 lbs, I would be within stock parameters. It's not far off, but I wanted to let my viewers know that if they are much lighter than me they should look elsewhere. And on the flipside, heavier folk might do really, really well with this fork.
@@JeffKendallWeed I am curious if some tuning could be done to solve that, or if adjusting the settings and pressure can help. Have you do alot of testing with that? Too much damping? Not something I've experienced I guess.
One other reason that the ohlins is a little off for you could be your very rear biased riding style, my guess is riders with a neutral stance would pair better with the fork.
Is this better than the rockshox zeb ultimate
Go DVO onyx if you have a Ripmo, it's heavy but super customizable, and once you get it dialed it rules. Also has a small shock inside for off the top sensitivity adjust to really eliminate trail chatter
Where can I hear more about the cascade ripmo link?
Hahaha I don’t honestly know. I’ll do a long term Ripmo Review and I’ll discuss it there.
Is Jeff on flats or clips?
Ever try some shimano fishing reels
I want your manual skills.
With those manuals you should try those trails with a unicycle
Would save on drivetrain costs! Just at the expense of dignity 😂
I guess an EXT ERA could be the perfect fit for you.
Forcing the oil past shims on the main piston creates a lot of pressure interference, high vacuum, friction & heat, etc. Everybody knows this. They work around this issue but it is always there! TTx design moves away from this entirely! Ohlins is the only company to look at a shock absorber as it has been for many years & say that it could work better. So now there is TTx design & then there is every other shock in the world with the same old issues!
That intro music from 2032 ? Are you from the future ?
lol Ben, my regular music service just tripled my price since my subscriber count has increased slightly, so I had to find a new provider. Still learning how to navigate the new catalog!
Noice!
They need to hurry and release the 38 to the public
And maybe remove just one shim in the damper in order to accommodate folks 130-170lbs!
Heavier rider will also ride with more pressure.
OHLINS IS THE GOAT!!!!
The damping action feels great, though I wish it was tuned slightly lighter
Can you Anglo-Saxons at some point learn how to pronounce Öhlins? It’s not Ooolins, ö is a distinct character in our alphabet and is pronounced the way the French pronounce the oe combination, like œuf.
I don’t speak French, how should it be pronounced in English, thanks!
@@KillingTimewithStyle more like the i:s in girl or bird. It’s not a perfect sound fit but much, much closer than Oooo.
Nooo!!! It’s illegal to use two different suspension brands at the same bike!!
lol well I got 1 out of 3 with the same front/rear brands here... The Evil is the only trunion mount bike in my quiver hto.
3rd comment
Progressivity....- progression
Ahhhh no wonder the spell check always yells when I type "progressivity!" Thanks Phillip, I don't know how I've missed that all these years!
Damn dude, oil your brake pads!
lol a lotta folks don't realize how humid it is here in teh winter... all brake pads squeal.
@@JeffKendallWeed try a hayes dominion A4 - in any way better than a saint or code and also quiet. No noise at any weather or temp - with the metalic pad's :)
Öhlins*
My keyboard doesn’t have the fancy o key 😞
@@JeffKendallWeed Oh yeah, sorry, for some reason I just get annoyed when someone types "Ohlins", but I understand
copy-paste it from the comment
@@th_js also not pronounced right. Actually he pronounces it Ohlins or Åhlins o and å can be the same sound in but not always. Å=ohh but O can also sound like that like Moss which a city but sounds like the English word Moss.
Åpen=open I can't think of anything with nordic O but O can sound different. But the Ö in Öhlins is the same as Ø in Norway, English uses this sound. Like in girl, bird, bust, must, just, crust.
Vital MTB did a review of the fork too, the guy doing the review is a swede, he pronounces it perfectly.
@@mtbboy1993 Exactly. Although here in Finland we call "Å" "ruotsalainen O", which means "Swedish O". As Jeff is American, I understand the mishap perfectly, though and it's not that bad. And yup, "Ohlins" is the O like in "door", "cove", "more" and "shore", whereas the correct way (Ö) is the same as in "Girl", "bird", etc, like you said. Also, Americans often murder the rest of the word too, for example, they say (pronounced the Finnish way): "Oulins", which means they leave the "h" out almost completely and add an unnecessary "u" to the word.. Completely pointless ramblings here, but we've now processed it and the case is closed. :)
Can’t believe you had to buy one. That’s BS
Would have been neat to have a motion instruments transducer on the rear shock , record some run with a 36 , leave the shock as it is then change the fork for the ohlins , do some runs again to show what effect changing the fork has on the rear shock . Great vid though