Öhlins RXF38 vs FOX 38 Teardown comparison - Which is better?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @BRINKUK
    @BRINKUK  Год назад +4

    TTX coil shock teardown for extra viewing!
    ruclips.net/video/ui5vW7Qbmx4/видео.html

  • @dominiquert8111
    @dominiquert8111 Год назад +13

    Test these 2 forks, I prefer Ohlins my best choice for hard enduro

  • @miles_bell
    @miles_bell Год назад +5

    I love how you guys dove into the "tech" in the fork! You guys should do the Zeb next maybe?
    One of my new favorite channels!!🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @markosteinberger
    @markosteinberger Год назад +13

    Good idea to have a tear down. Coil versions would be interesting.

  • @alerocorunha6206
    @alerocorunha6206 Год назад +4

    Such a complete technical video! It’s nice to see you speaking about this forks 🤘🏼

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Cheers dude! 🤘🏼🎉

  • @artificialgrassspain30
    @artificialgrassspain30 Год назад +5

    Loving all the videos and custom bike builds. The way it should be.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад +1

      Cheers dude! 🤘🏼🎉

  • @ikerteuscher
    @ikerteuscher Год назад +4

    AMAZING explanation! WOW thanks

  • @RobHill00
    @RobHill00 Год назад +2

    Really good!👍🏻 good to see it explained with the parts in front of you!

  • @luckyluk3r
    @luckyluk3r Месяц назад +1

    Fantastic video, very well explained. Just ordered a Canyon Torque with full Ohlins suspension. Very much looking forward to dial it in! 😈

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  11 дней назад

      Cheers! Glad you liked it! more coming!

  • @dachuckster2
    @dachuckster2 Год назад +1

    I love these new Ohlins forks, it’s made the second hand price of Fox 38s really good.

  • @aaronburela432
    @aaronburela432 Год назад +1

    Oh man I can listen to mat talk MTB tech all day

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Cheers dude! Careful what you wish for! Haha

  • @rarelycomments
    @rarelycomments Год назад +4

    Would be good to see dyno plots and telemetry of the two.
    My intuition is that Fox actually have the right idea here regarding larger air volume and lower pressure.

    • @0nelifeliveit1987
      @0nelifeliveit1987 9 месяцев назад +1

      I actually feel the ohlin is better for tuneability, essentially you have smaller increments, where as the fox you cant adjust much once you're at your weight limit...for example on my 40's i have like 5psi to play with before its too hard or too soft. I would imagine the ohlin would be like 10-12psi so you get a much finer tune

  • @TCJACJ2000
    @TCJACJ2000 Год назад +2

    Great video! I'm actually building a new Tracer 279 using Ohlins suspension.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      You won’t regret it. Get those settings dialled.

  • @djhillesq
    @djhillesq 11 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant vid mate. Super interesting. Well done.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  11 месяцев назад

      Thankyou! We have done a few more suspension videos. More to come!!

  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin3600 3 месяца назад +1

    I just bought a Fox Factory 38 on sale today. I would have gone with Ohlins but 500.00 U.S. dollars more just wasn't in my budget.

  • @edandayan1635
    @edandayan1635 Год назад +1

    Great comparison and explanation- ty!

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Cheers! Much appreciated

  • @William.Driscoll
    @William.Driscoll Год назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @BrandonViani
    @BrandonViani Год назад +31

    once you’ve ridden an Ohlins fork versus a Fox you see there’s just no contest.

    • @Polemicist_
      @Polemicist_ Год назад +1

      Which versions of forks did you ride and which brand did you prefer?

    • @BrandonViani
      @BrandonViani Год назад +23

      @@Polemicist_ I prefer Ohlins overall despite the price. I do believe though that aggressive trail or park riding is where Ohlins shines most. Before I tried Ohlins I’ve had/ridden Rockshox Lyrik, Zeb (an excellent fork!) and Boxxer as well as Fox 34, 36 and 38. The main difference between the others to me was that although Fox and Rockshox are softer off the top, Ohlins has a more noticeable and more confidence inspiring mid-stroke support ie the suspension feels like it’s always there (especially on jumps and drops), was easier to find an adjustment that works as Ohlins uses a design approach called “usable range” which results in it being almost difficult to find a setting that doesn’t work on an Ohlins and finally, has a progressivity ramp adjustment chamber instead of using annoying tokens.

    • @Polemicist_
      @Polemicist_ Год назад +4

      @@BrandonViani Damn, okay. Thanks for that info.

    • @shawnstradwick5637
      @shawnstradwick5637 Год назад +2

      Thank you so much for the insight. I am kind of new to Mountain biking. But I have a lower quality brand of fox on right now. ( rhythm ) . I have been reading a lot about the Ohlins forks and Shocks. Your comments are definitely making me go towards Ohlins. Also, I think it would look really awesome on my turbo levo, which is all black with yellow grips, yellow pedals, and yellow stem from Pembree.

    • @BrandonViani
      @BrandonViani Год назад +1

      @@shawnstradwick5637 yeah that would look sharpe! Although the Fox Rhythm is a great value fork (supposedly having the same internals as the Marzocchi Bomber) and won’t hold you back at all, if you have the margin in your budget, the Ohlins is simply next-level. Also Ohlins forks are on sale all over the place right now eg JensonUSA, etc. The Ohlins RXF36 would likely be the upgrade from your Rhythm.

  • @coldsteeloffroad
    @coldsteeloffroad Год назад +4

    Forgot to mention the oval steerer tube w/varying thickness in the FOX 👍🏻

  • @MRR-qv3bw
    @MRR-qv3bw Год назад +1

    I'm absolutely blown away just how much technology has been passed down from Moto-GP and Motor cross! I literally run Ohlins front forks $5,500.00 on my BMW M1000RR and its almost identical internals but smaller! I had know clue that this caliber of bike even existed and its just awesome to see these parts from a known company that I'm familiar with! Looking up what kind of builds y'all put these trick parts on!

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Yer its all the same stuff just miniature! Some of tech runs both ways though. Im sure theres tons they are learning from having MTB product. We do off the shelf Ohlins builds on our site and they are rad! Not to say its the 100% best for everyone but we really do think its the best stuff!

    • @streetmtb
      @streetmtb Год назад +1

      @@BRINKUKthey dominate the motorcycle category so I can only think they have moved into Mtb to learn more, my wallet is here shaking and saying don’t do it!

  • @jacobwilson3545
    @jacobwilson3545 Год назад +2

    great breakdown and interesting to see the differences.
    I wanted to get a Zeb, then the more I looked Fox 38.......then Ohlins, this hasn't helped 😅 💵💰
    From the home mechanics and tech lovers though, thanks 👍

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      😂 Appreciate it Jacob!

  • @Googoo123
    @Googoo123 Год назад

    looks like you know your forks sir! real nice vid

  • @spencermen
    @spencermen Год назад +2

    Love the content, keep it up!

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Cheers dude! More to come!

  • @mtbangels
    @mtbangels Год назад +1

    Yo, thats a great video. Good explained the tech from both. Only the background music I found a bit anoing 💪👍🚲

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Noted. Thanks for watching!

  • @jamlee344
    @jamlee344 Год назад

    Great information! Thanks 👍

  • @Dempsey222
    @Dempsey222 Год назад +1

    Both forks are great. Either way you are riding on a winner.

  • @timschafer3820
    @timschafer3820 Год назад +4

    SUPER cool to see the insides of both! Have you experimented with removing the negative air chamber spacer that apparently is in Ohlins 38 forks? Seemed like Alex at Bike Radar had experimented with that with positive results... not saying necessarily that the RXF38 needs to be better :) Excited to hear about blind testing!

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад +6

      Yer we’ve tried both ways. If you want it more supple off the top it’s good but accelerates the fork into the mid stroke so pros and cons. Personally I prefer the fork to ride a little higher so I leave mine in on the 38.

    • @timschafer3820
      @timschafer3820 Год назад

      @@BRINKUK Thank you! Cheers!

    • @JaimetheNomad
      @JaimetheNomad Год назад +1

      I was gonna ask the same question, and had just come across that same review. I’m a lighter rider at 160lbs with gear and have an RXF38 on the way. I’ll experiment with it stock and see how it is and if it’s too harsh off the top or not with it.
      @BRINKUK Is it easy to remove the negative chamber spacer if needed?

    • @mtboyan1817
      @mtboyan1817 Год назад

      ​@@BRINKUK @timschafer3820 Does the RXF36 have the same negative chamber spacer that can be removed?

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      @@mtboyan1817 yea it does!

  • @alexandrepoirier1500
    @alexandrepoirier1500 Год назад

    Great video. Fair to say that adding tokens in the Air side, will reduce the available travel of the fork by limiting the Air volume...!? so I guess that Öhlins does manage the ''end pressure'' without limiting the travel (air volume) of the fork with their different design or not !?

  • @BRINKUK
    @BRINKUK  Год назад

    TTX air shock teardown for extra viewing!
    ruclips.net/video/Gncc6fSqt5k/видео.html

  • @paulhugo1623
    @paulhugo1623 3 месяца назад +2

    Ohlins forks are also coated… just a different colour/process. Ohlins innovates… fox copies

  • @johnbrevard5966
    @johnbrevard5966 Год назад

    When I rode dirt bikes in 80s... fox was pop cause the name, Fox shox.. it was catchy... but the real suspensions were kyb, local guys named Kessler, and some others, but fox dominated advertising so they won, they were the dominos pizza of suspension.

  • @user-ix9uq4gz1j
    @user-ix9uq4gz1j Год назад

    well, the positive air chamber tokens work a bit different, but for a novice rider that would be a good enough explanation.

  • @catherinemacalisang5782
    @catherinemacalisang5782 Год назад

    in other words, these forks have sophisticated internals and need sophisticated servicing.

  • @HaveFunBikes
    @HaveFunBikes 10 месяцев назад

    Absolutely lovely video!
    But I'm a tinkerer, and I really would like to know what kind of frankensteins I can get away with. For example,e geting an 38 suntour chassis, but using ohlins damping cartrige? Maybe a rockshox one? What parts are interchangeable?
    I know the industry keeps it's secrets about a lot of things, but this is what an independent reviewer can do!

  • @mtbtraildoctor
    @mtbtraildoctor Год назад +1

    Nice ohlins add. I’m looking for some side by side comparisons to learn more. Will check out your vid on that.

  • @alex_4cj64
    @alex_4cj64 Год назад +1

    Its really interesting to me the olins floating piston, bc my rockshoks 2012 reba rl has a dual air system that allows it to do the same and i dont know why it is not in every fork

  • @rustler08
    @rustler08 Год назад +1

    Let me know when you can tweak the feel of a Grip2 like you can the Ohlins with it's triple chamber design. I can easily add or remove a bit of pressure at the bottom of the fork in seconds, and I can even go stepwise up and down in tiny increments. Impossible to do on a stock Fox fork

  • @jez5180
    @jez5180 Год назад +2

    Really good, useful video would be even better without the background 'music' which is distracting! Looking forward to the test video.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Noted. Thanks for watching Jez!

  • @Ivanoff685
    @Ivanoff685 2 месяца назад

    Öhlins / крепотура 🔥

  • @SuperNegawsklov
    @SuperNegawsklov Год назад +1

    Please a Boxxer Ultimate RC2 WC vs Ohlins DH 38 m.1 ❤

  • @wesleyoke8448
    @wesleyoke8448 Год назад +1

    It's funny. People were skeptical about the ohlins in the past years. And now they are finally caught on and I'm not unique in the hill any more. Honestly ohlins on my r1, I put em on my hard enduro 2 stroke, and I even force my friends with Harleys to adopt them. They make all the difference on any two wheels

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Consistently lives up to the hype. A rare thing these days!

  • @Vorname_Nachnahme
    @Vorname_Nachnahme Год назад +1

    Fork for best repetitious small bump sensitivity. Like the old unmatched Citoen DS which i drove for several years. What fork delivers like that? I'm no bikeparker, i have long travel suspension mostly for comfort (180mm). But in my opinion: the problem is that bicycles do not have enough mass, which let's any stickslip effects in the suspension/dampingsystem get prominent. With the same suspension/dampingsystem and more vehiclemass and of corse more pressure the stick effects would not grow or not grow in the same way but the forces which are acting on the system so in summa the impact of the friction would get less, like: a small bump acts with more fore on a heavier vehicle like the same bump would on a featherweight one.

    • @anthonywalters7434
      @anthonywalters7434 Год назад +1

      I’d recommend looking into a coil conversion for your current fork. Push and Vorsprung both make a lot of aftermarket kits. Running a coil tends to have better small bump sensitivity but less progression when compared to an air sprung fork. Marzocchi makes a Z1 Coil that’s pretty good as well. I have my Fox Performance 38 set up at 22% sag and slightly slower rebound than recommended and fully open compression, it handles chatter and big hits very well at that setup without much compromise on either end.

  • @sethharris3189
    @sethharris3189 Год назад

    Please do a proper blind fork test, will be hilarious footage riding through trails blindfolded 😂

  • @ethanrevitch
    @ethanrevitch Год назад +1

    It can’t be the 2 best forks on the market without a Zeb…

  • @wayneschofield5978
    @wayneschofield5978 Год назад +1

    Have you compared the EXT Era V2 with these?

  • @HealthFromWithin-wb2pp
    @HealthFromWithin-wb2pp Месяц назад

    Where is your comparison video float 38 vs rxf 38?
    Could not find it anywhere

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  11 дней назад

      We never got round to doing it unfortunately. More videos coming soon though! Cheers

  • @brian6speed
    @brian6speed Год назад

    I'm debating between fox 36 performance elite @ $850 and the Ohlins RXF 36 @ $800. My frame came with fox float x performance rear shock so the fox 36 would match it, but I think I'd rather have the ohlins fork on sale. Then I'd probably want to sell fox rear shock and buy matching ohlins.. hmmm decision decisions

  • @Alex_Abdullayev
    @Alex_Abdullayev Год назад

    This is Amazing! Is this available yet?

  • @lostboysrideordie
    @lostboysrideordie Год назад

    My question is will the Ohlins TTX damper fit inside the Fox 38 fork? If the threading is the same and fits the FOx 40 fork I think it would work.

  • @ragged9242
    @ragged9242 Год назад

    Could you do your own damper service at home for the ohlins damper? Is it easy?

  • @heathschuttmtb
    @heathschuttmtb Год назад

    could you put fox 38 Kashima uppers on the öhlins fork

  • @golem9111
    @golem9111 Год назад

    Hi friend can you do the same video with Manitou mezzer pro and expert forks?

  • @David..
    @David.. Год назад

    Why do they do damper rod vs cartridge forks? Genuinely curious since cartridge forks offer superior rebound and compression dampening as well as a lower center of gravity. Seems like a no brainer.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Hello David! Are you asking about open bath dampers Vs cartridge?

  • @jaysealenduro5618
    @jaysealenduro5618 Год назад +1

    Both are good but Rockshox Zeb is the best in every Aspect.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад +1

      Maybe we should do a Zeb Vs Z1 tear down?!

  • @Mdexhausts
    @Mdexhausts Год назад +2

    Ohlins beats fox hands down on high speed damping…

  • @RR-sr7nu
    @RR-sr7nu Год назад +1

    I ride rockshox and change the decals to ohlins or fox to match the color of my riding gear 😂

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад +1

      haha cheaper that way too!

  • @pawel102
    @pawel102 Год назад

    What about twin toube in ohlins? :)

  • @Puddinghead
    @Puddinghead Год назад

    Could you maybe talk a little about the token in the negative air chamber in the ohlins? How many forks have you removed this from??

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      We did it a fair amount on the 36 fork but I find the 38 rides a little nicer with the spacer in. Probably due to the bigger lower leg volume. Awesome forks!!

    • @Puddinghead
      @Puddinghead Год назад

      @@BRINKUK yea I was just asking as I got a shot of some ohlins 38s and struggled to find the balance between small bump and support. I could feel the damper was absolutely mint I just couldn’t figure the air pressures out to get what I was after.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      They aren’t the fork for small bump sensitivity off the top but at sag they should be more than supple with the right setup. Sometimes it’s worth sizing the bushes. We can do that for you! 👍🏻

  • @rymillwells
    @rymillwells Год назад +1

    Enjoy the content but prefer no background music.

  • @robertmcfadyen9156
    @robertmcfadyen9156 Год назад

    Gone are the days of aesthetically pleasing forks . I like older Marzocchi Bombers of which I have several .

  • @TAZMON20
    @TAZMON20 Год назад

    So how woud it be a blind test when you have just stated the Ohlins gives you more support, more balance, more control etc when you have already ridden both and decided the Ohlins is the better fork.

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      yer we know! I just said it when we filmed but the idea was for someone else to ride them not me and then discuss what they thought of each fork. Not really a blind test. Not sure you could really and keep it safe! haha

  • @ronald0609
    @ronald0609 Год назад

    Do both forks use IFP or Bladders on the damper?

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад +1

      Both use coil spring IFPs to pressurise the fluid

  • @craigw7136
    @craigw7136 Год назад

    Didn’t even get past the 30 second ad..

  • @TheKasperlkopf
    @TheKasperlkopf Год назад +1

    so Al2O3 is a "hard ceramic material"? and ppl are also trying to impress someone by saying "over 70 billion molecules per square centimeter"? jesus christ guys, stop it with all this bullshit.
    sincerely someone who knows material science

  • @sssamful
    @sssamful Год назад

    Where’s Messi?

  • @Vorname_Nachnahme
    @Vorname_Nachnahme Год назад +2

    The background music is extremely annoying/distracting. Only talking would be much better ...

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Noted. Thanks for watching! Very much appreciated.

  • @syncrosimon
    @syncrosimon Год назад

    Not much in them really!

  • @BrentsJoyride146
    @BrentsJoyride146 Год назад

    Can you donate me mtb fork

  • @anonymously241
    @anonymously241 Год назад

    R you Pakistani? 🇵🇰

  • @slydog4535
    @slydog4535 Год назад +1

    Be selective with your background music, I hate this style of editing. A short video is one thing but 12min of the same tone music is annoying

  • @huckfin1598
    @huckfin1598 Год назад

    Informative but terribly edited. Can’t determine which fork you’re talking about half the time

    • @BRINKUK
      @BRINKUK  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback! I’ll re watch it with my editing head on! 👍🏻🎉

  • @user-xn1bo9rx5m
    @user-xn1bo9rx5m 6 месяцев назад

    im American i can’t understand a word he says and our language is FROM there not here. Speak English! what ? oh ? you ARE English? uh , sorry

  • @mrgagarin4384
    @mrgagarin4384 Год назад +1

    Fox the best, oxlinzzz one opera .- dvo/booss/ 💩