@@upfrfrPerk is a scrub commentator, and basketball player. And his commercial is trash. My Doritos. He is nothing but a big punk. JJ is absolutely right. KD is underappreciated.
I can't even imagine how dumb you have to be to not find Perkins unbearable. WILD flex. I didn't say that as a compliment to JJ, anyone that's watched 100 games that didn't struggle to graduate high school know Perks is spewing 95% BS stupid, low info opinions. He's a shock jock for sports, so people have a reason to hate watch, that's the only reason he has a job, his takes are so bad they get engagement. Your boy. @@upfrfr
@@topshotta2000LeBron is a predominately perimeter based scorer now. He takes more threes than ever before and hits them at a higher clip then ever before.
This show couldn’t even wait for JJ to be on to have this convo . So they goin to have it today and again the next time he is on . Two birds one stone .
JJ is obviously wrong. It's insane how yall glaze players so much when they are more greedy and entitled than owners are. KD contributed to this soft Era and contributed to people not watching the sport. JJ is just a glazer as usual.
What is jj right about though? Kd isn’t under appreciated he just isn’t viewed in the same light as mj bron kobe curry .. that doesn’t make him under appreciated.. like what is jj trying to say under appreciated by players fans or media?
@@X_Noah_Lil_X if you ask them its more love than hate .. they ain’t reading comments on a day to day basis.. they’re getting love from their fans in real time on a daily basis.. the love outweighs the hate .. it just would seem otherwise on the internet but most people who hate on the net are fans in real life trying to get pics and autographs
Leadership n talent are completely diff things can you find any analyst on first take that says kd talent isn’t where 99.99 percent of the world believes he’s at…I’ll wait 🤣🤣
@@Jeffreyking7 I didn’t sense any hate in this argument right here .. kd is appreciated.. is he viewed like mj bron kobe shxt even curry .. no .. but is he appreciated most definitely.. kd ain’t in the under appreciated category dude is a mega star
Durant is better than Kobe by every single metric available. There's literally nothing you can point to that shows Kobe is better besides having more rings. If Durant had Shaq instead of Westbrook he'd have 5 rings too.
And this what has he done since thing is so stupid. He almost made the Finals with his two co-stars injured. And this was a guy in his 30s coming off the worst injury in sports. And you guys act like that's nothing. It's like saying what did MJ do without Scottie. News flash... you need all time teammates to get a ring! He would've had rings before going to GSW too, but if you look at Westbrooks playoffs numbers, he's literally the worst in NBA history in real clutch scoring. He was a disaster in the playoffs. One man can only do so much. Tired of this low IQ take.
Please tell us how Durant is to blame for his teammates not showing up in the playoffs? I'll wait. How did LeBron do in the playoffs when Davis was injured?
This segment just proves JJs point 😂😂. Can we sit down and just appreciate KD at 36 on night to night basis without all the narratives? No we can’t because lebron did this and Kobe did that blah blah blah. There’s always a but when it comes to KD, but there shouldn’t be
i see what both sides are saying. But personally i think Kds career as a whole is under appreciated because most people bring up the whole going to GSW thing and other decisions before we speak on the things Kd has done right and accomplished.
It's 100% just people bitter they made a team that was too good to beat, but that isn't even really true, Houston was so close to taking them out if CP3 didn't get hurt they probably do it. But the anger over that has completely clouded how great Durant is.
at this point its less about GSW and more that he hasnt won anything without GSW. If he doesnt get it done in Phoenix he'll probably retire having played for 5 or more teams
How is he under appreciated? He’s over hated bc he joined a super team and is Twitter warrior(which I like tbh). Everyone including his haters have him too 15 which means even if they verbally say his rings don’t mean much when they rank him they don’t devalue them bc KD isn’t top 20 wo those rings and fmvps.
I actually personally think JJ is right, KD is underrated because he should also be getting Lebron treatment because he is RELATIVELY as good as he said (15 straight 25ppg seasons, multiple championships and mvps). What I think JJ is meaning and everyone who agrees is that KD isn’t getting ENOUGH spotlight treatment. Like we all still respect the Suns a whole lot from a playoff perspective but in regards to how we look at Lebron n stuff I think KD is a little undervalued or at least under recognized by the entire basketball community. I know I personally haven’t given KD his flowers as much lately but that’s also literally because Lebron hit Major milestones and is still lethal at the 8-9-10 seed.
Players above KD all time (no order): Jordan, Bron, Kareem, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Shaq, Curry, Hakeem, Oscar, Zeke, & West! Durant is in the KG, Jokic & Dirk tier
Not underappreciated. Undercriticized. For someone who people has argued is better than LeBron, he doesn't get LeBron like criticism. His every move isn't criticized, including the moves of his kids. Let's stop it and be for real. KD for the majority of his career has gotten excuses moreso than criticism
@@X_Noah_Lil_X How's it cap ? And I have to make it about LeBron to put KD's career in the best perspective. He's been compared to LeBron for like a decade, so that's the standard I have to hold him to
I agree w basically everything said, especially Canty. There was various incentives for a smart NBA vet like JJ to say those things. I think underappreciated is not the correct word. Scrutinized, or polarizing whether right or wrong. Those are more fitting.
JJ is right. Instead of talking about how KD has been playing great this season we’re still getting “where is his leadership?” “Can he win without Steph” “why KD is not in the goat conversation” discussions. Stop talking like the book of his career is closed, he’s still playing at a high level and we don’t know what could happen. Keep in mind what KD has been able to do post an Achilles tear is nothing short of insane but they gloss over that too.
yes KD had some teammates fail on him and leave on him and make bad decisions and he played well in those moments. but at the end of the day he didn't get the chip on his own and it didn't happen. we ant debate if its not his fault or not but what we cant do is give him credit for a championship or something on his own when he hasn't done it.
When you’re as great of a player as KD. It will always be expected of his legacy to include leading a team to a championship. No matter how you slice it, him joining the warriors will always have a sour taste in people’s mouths and rightfully so. Coming from a warriors fan.
And to add insult to injury. The warriors have won before and after him and he has generally not had any playoff success since. And he had a chance to do it before he came to the warriors and fell short. KD will never be appreciated legacy wise like a Giannis or even Jokic tbh
This Durant slander has to stop get off that man nuts. He’s one of the greatest ever his game speaks for itself. Idk why ESPN can’t just let him be great they always try to put some narrative next to what he’s done. I never seen them ride a player like this smh
@@jada8047 that’s facts I can’t disagree with that. I’m just saying the man one of the greatest they talk like he isn’t with what he’s already done. Regardless if he got a ring by himself or not
@TeMonMolley yea man I wanna see Durantula win one without the team that beat him.. The journey of winning a championship is better when you win on a team that can't get to the Finals without you
even when perk's saying normal stuff he makes it sound dumb. the perspective of JJ on this was that KD is often ignored. No one is appreciating his game, despite the fact that he is currently averaging almost 30 ppg this season. his last week was amazing, the man is turning 36 this year, the production he has, we ignore it because of the narrative around him. JJ is right again, and perk just wants to say whatever so that he is a part of the discussion.
Man is not ignored. The man ran to a 73 win team and that is the only time he ever won. He been on several super teams since and hasn’t won since. Man did it to himself.
a 73 win team that lost to lebron in the finals. there is context that is needed. KD has 2 finals MVPs that no one argues, because he was the best player on that team. I get the whole argument that he is not a leader or that you wouldn't want to build around him, but he is literally one of the best pure scorers ever. incomplete as a player but what he does no one else can do. as for the superteam argument its the same thing again. he's not a leader, so you need a pseudo number 1 option on the team regardless of him, which is how he works out. on the nets there was no one as good, and on the suns they came close to winning precisely because booker and CP3 together made up that number 1 option. If the suns win a chip KD would again probably be the FMVP.
I'm a normal person and I appreciate KDs game. These guys jus waffling. KD is a great player and everyone knows it, we just don't respect him so much because of the decisions he has made.
I finally understand the value of a championship now……. Nobody in their right mind would give a flying bleep about what Perky says if he isn’t a “champion”….. i mean most of us still don’t give a bleep but apparently there are enough people out there that do give a bleep for him to get a broadcasting job…….
KD is a superstar caliber steady contributor to a team. But as far as a guy that could actually lead a team in winning a chip, imo, that's where he falls short of
this might be the first and only time i agree with kendrick perkins. a majority of the criticism aimed at KD is self inflicted. He was one of the most liked players in the league in 2016.
In nba everyone cried publicly to get paid, to get appreciated, to get mvp. But when it comes to deliver. Crying for help, scapegoating everyone but himself, and still failing. Even giannis said there is no failure in nba. These people run from accountability, that’s why it is a joke of a sport. It’s a show not a sport
I’m really tired of this KD slander. Idc what anyone says no one has won without any all stars in their team. We seen all the greats lose in pressure moments. Steph game 6 vs raptors, Bron in 2011 finals vs mavs, kawhi blew a 3-1 lead vs nuggets, but somehow we still keep referring to Kd when literally every superstar has had their bad games. Y’all don’t get tired of this? It gets old bruh. KD is an all time great no matter what and has proven himself. If we judging from winning without any all stars on their team then those guys i mentioned can’t be all time greats either because they didn’t win without all stars
They seem to conveniently forget the superteam one Lebron created…”Not 1, not 2, not 3🤣” even before KD ever created one. The fanboys are simply mad he took two rings from Lebron. It’s that simple!
I miss when greatness wasn’t ONLY on who wins the championship. Obviously it is and should be important but there’s a lot of stuff that is out of players control when it comes to winning. People forget that there can only be 1 champion every year
Which is why Lebron is truly the greatest. 4 rings is a solid amount of championships and he’ll finish top 5 in all major stat categories. His style of play is “everything and everywhere” making him the most selfless player we’ve seen since Magic. Imagine if he chose the “Jordan Killer Instinct/Mamba Mentality” he’d average 45 a game and would have passed the all-time scoring record 5 years ago. If KD pulled a LeBron & went BACK to OKC to resurrect the franchise I would gladly put him as a contender for the GOAT debate.
What's funny is what gil said about kd after the Isiah draymond interview gil said 1 man sacrificed his status and career to elevate 3 but he the one people hate on
I don’t usually agree with perk but he’s right that there’s other players more deserving of that underrated label demar derozan will always come to wind he’s an underrated hall of famer
4:00 I can probably revise my comment with this minute marker but ya no he spoke all the facts. People like me who I happen to be a Clippers fan/Lebron Supporter are the ones who have under appreciated KD. So thank yall… got me realizing this might be a nothing segment 😂😂
Get off the BS!!all the normal people love and appreciate and respect KD. It's the analysts and all the people on TV who underappreciate him. Listen to all the hate you guys got for him . Back to back finals MVP back-to-back championships. In my Chad ocho Cinco voice. (Child please)..
Because That’s excuses man. They had 4 whole years together. Didn’t even get pass the second round…stop with the bias stuff. Because the 2 years they wasn’t injured they still got shredded in the playoffs.
@@Gwaniegwan With James Harden he was beating the champions the bucks and then lost because of injury. The other year he got swept by Boston. That's 2 years where do you get 4 from 😂 🤡
The comment done less with more is completely wrong and missing context. OKC: when they went to the finals, Durant showed up. It was Harden who was still very young to struggled mightily and Westbrook who was playing out of control. With the nets: the team gutted the roster to get James Harden only to have Harden and Kyrie get hurt in the playoffs. Otherwise that team would’ve easily won the next couple of finals. Then Harden asks for a trade and the team gets less than Pennies on the dollar. Durant is not the leader that James is and doesn’t know how to motivate people, but as a talent and player, he’s right there with everyone.
KD joining the warriors is equivalent to Jordan joining the Celtics after losing to them or Kobe joining the Spurs dynasty after losing to them. Of course Jordan and Kobe would be the finals mvp but that’s because they went to a system that was already successful. Neither would get credit for taking the easy route to a championship. Instead they remained with their team and built around themselves to lead a team to multiple rings.
I think KD is properly appreciated. We recognize him as one of the greatest players, he's in the top 75, we know him as one of the greatest and most efficient scorers ever. Those are all things people say when he's being described. Now if he wants to be Goated , then yes we are going to line up what he's done with other Goats (MJ, Bron etc.) and he doesn't quite measure up. People also are going to have their opinions about his performances (Part of the reason he gets paid what he does).
Despite his pathetic decision to join the most stacked team in basketball, Kevin Durant is not in the goat conversation because he WANTED to leave gsw and win on his own, and he haven't won yet. He WANTED, didn't do it, not yet.
That's good stat Jj. Doesn't mean people under appreciated. He skilled he's talented he has good stats and even plays defense. His rings dont weigh the same per the route he took. But he has opportunity to prove he can win outside of being on Golden State.
The fact that he went to Golden State is going to make a lot of haters not appreciate his greatness. Well my question is though, a super team considered that when everyone is traded to that team instead of being drafted?
JJ vs Perk rd 2 gonna be crazy
It's like seeing a philosophy professor arguing with a kid on the short bus. Perkins gotta go. Kendrick is bitter loser.
@@michaelturley8222 Yall jj fans starting to act like him 😂😂😂😂
@@upfrfrPerk is a scrub commentator, and basketball player. And his commercial is trash. My Doritos. He is nothing but a big punk. JJ is absolutely right. KD is underappreciated.
What rd2? Lmao perk can't debate a 10 year old
I can't even imagine how dumb you have to be to not find Perkins unbearable. WILD flex. I didn't say that as a compliment to JJ, anyone that's watched 100 games that didn't struggle to graduate high school know Perks is spewing 95% BS stupid, low info opinions. He's a shock jock for sports, so people have a reason to hate watch, that's the only reason he has a job, his takes are so bad they get engagement. Your boy. @@upfrfr
Perk always sounds like he’s talking in the toilet 😂
Yeah I would always be asking why the audio sounds so bad or why I hear echoing.
That's because his bathroom has a green screen
It's the GUMBO
Definitely sh*t coming out of his mouth.
@@MateMagyar88bro is on speaker 🥴😄
I agree. 35 years old and still playing at that high level is crazy
um 🤨
Facts
Kd is a shooter so he can play longer lbj is not a shooter he's dominant
@@topshotta2000LeBron is a predominately perimeter based scorer now. He takes more threes than ever before and hits them at a higher clip then ever before.
Not really, it’s becoming the norm
Molly looking like “what are Girbeau’s???” 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 she wasn’t there
@@TheRealMichaelP Molly not a HOT GIRL lol
Girbaud and Reebooks! Lets gooo!! HOT BOYS!
@@Phil4RealMusic you done switched from Nike to Reeboks huh? 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 nostalgia
Perk was cookin before he got cut off 😂
Facts bro was cooking some curry goat 😂😂😂
insert *Let him cook* audio
That entire time he spoke about narratives instead of his actual game
Narratives and storytelling is what we all remember about the game.
@@SanJoseSharky992 yeah for simple minded people
People keep forgetting KD lost 2 years to injury 😪 Should've been 17 straight seasons!!
But it wasn’t
He also choked vs tatum and got SWEPT CMON
@@Hoopermagic3exactly
Durability... you just lost yet another point bro
@@Hoopermagic3lebron got swept more times then him tho
This show couldn’t even wait for JJ to be on to have this convo . So they goin to have it today and again the next time he is on . Two birds one stone .
I see both view points. KD was never under appreciated. At the same time, he’s one of the most criticized player too. Some warranted; some are not.
Jj is obviously right. We spend so much time talking about what players are not. Instead of what they are
Kd is a coward. Is that better?
JJ is obviously wrong. It's insane how yall glaze players so much when they are more greedy and entitled than owners are. KD contributed to this soft Era and contributed to people not watching the sport. JJ is just a glazer as usual.
@@aaronbarkley539 then don't watch the game no more
And what KD is is a great scorer who can’t win unless the avengers are assembled with him😂😂😂
What is jj right about though? Kd isn’t under appreciated he just isn’t viewed in the same light as mj bron kobe curry .. that doesn’t make him under appreciated.. like what is jj trying to say under appreciated by players fans or media?
Molly sees Stephen As’ not here and she thinks she can step in and give her whole take😂
Must be his side piece no one wants to hear her thoughts .
Yeah she was outta control today interrupting everyone.
Lmao she done lost her mind
LMFAOOOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She always do that when he’s not here
How is KD underappreciated? Is it Because we're not calling him the GOAT? Dude won 2 titles and is one of the best scorers in the game.
All players get more hate then recognition and it's sad
@@X_Noah_Lil_X if you ask them its more love than hate .. they ain’t reading comments on a day to day basis.. they’re getting love from their fans in real time on a daily basis.. the love outweighs the hate .. it just would seem otherwise on the internet but most people who hate on the net are fans in real life trying to get pics and autographs
This segment proves why. The focus is always why isnt this guy winning titles and not whats going on around him
@@X_Noah_Lil_Xnot when it comes to M🐐J…he gets more love than Hate.
@@bigbromcgee7118 apparently you haven't been around long both him and LeBron get so much hate tht it's the only thing talked bout anymore
I mean they spent multiple segments this season talking about KDs leadership instead
Thank you! Like why is everyone playing dumb lol
They push the narrative then fall back ...
Leadership n talent are completely diff things can you find any analyst on first take that says kd talent isn’t where 99.99 percent of the world believes he’s at…I’ll wait 🤣🤣
And they do that to every player in the nba lol. Dont mean hes under appreciated
I Love Honest Conversations😂😂😂
This convo proved what JJ was saying. Nothing was said about KDs play just narratives
But the topic had nothing to do with his play but more about him being underappreciated, which is the narrative.
They addressed that though, he is a great player as an individual, he is just not held to the same regard as the Jordan Kobe or Lebron
The topic was about what JJ said. His play is under appreciated.
How is he underappreciated if he rarely plays, and can never win anything without Curry!
@dcwSentinal But its not because people constantly say KD is the greatest bucket getter in the history of basketball.
KD blew a 3-1 lead and went & joined them next year….nuff said lol
LeBron has 4 rings in 21 years .. nuff said and made the first ever super team
@@thedonasty4600 KD has 2 in 16 years & it doesn’t look like he’s getting another lol
He joined the team that had the best record ever THAT ALSO blew a 3-1 lead. Let’s not forget that part cause we always do
Get over it
@@thedonasty4600you don't watch ball if you think he made the first super team
Yeah I’m with big perk on this 1 💯
ESPN is so 🗑️ now,that Disney move wasn’t the move
Their ratings have gone up again and still they are the number 1 show
Cry more
has literally nothing to do with Disney, they've been owned by Disney since the 90's what are you talkng about.
Gonna cry
@@JaysonT975yes however them laying off certain personnel impacted their quality of shows
FACTS!
5sec into this and JJ already spitting fax
Perk just a KD hater
@@Jeffreyking7 I didn’t sense any hate in this argument right here .. kd is appreciated.. is he viewed like mj bron kobe shxt even curry .. no .. but is he appreciated most definitely.. kd ain’t in the under appreciated category dude is a mega star
Imagine saying fax...
@@pepperdeezno longer a need to imagine 👀
Obviously he is spitting a fact. So when he says the ski is blue, we gata give him more props
Surprisingly good segment especially with Canty, and Harry Douglass
He’s not lebron, Kobe or Jordan. You had Steph in his prime and won but since then what has he done.
U literally proving his point 😭
Durant is better than Kobe by every single metric available. There's literally nothing you can point to that shows Kobe is better besides having more rings. If Durant had Shaq instead of Westbrook he'd have 5 rings too.
And this what has he done since thing is so stupid. He almost made the Finals with his two co-stars injured. And this was a guy in his 30s coming off the worst injury in sports. And you guys act like that's nothing. It's like saying what did MJ do without Scottie. News flash... you need all time teammates to get a ring! He would've had rings before going to GSW too, but if you look at Westbrooks playoffs numbers, he's literally the worst in NBA history in real clutch scoring. He was a disaster in the playoffs. One man can only do so much. Tired of this low IQ take.
Please tell us how Durant is to blame for his teammates not showing up in the playoffs? I'll wait. How did LeBron do in the playoffs when Davis was injured?
bron lost his first season on that super team an lebron his father from ray allen an kyrie
Perk was SPITTIN! … then the connection said “chill chill , you odeein.”
he was talking BS so god shut his up lol
@@hooligan5381 😂😂
JJ is speaking Facts
This segment just proves JJs point 😂😂. Can we sit down and just appreciate KD at 36 on night to night basis without all the narratives? No we can’t because lebron did this and Kobe did that blah blah blah. There’s always a but when it comes to KD, but there shouldn’t be
The lack of context in this conversation is awful. Westbrook and harden were not in their primes in OCK and Brooklyn was injured
But he was labeled as "the best player in the world"
Agree with Perk
Big Facts Big Perk I’m with you on this one
i see what both sides are saying. But personally i think Kds career as a whole is under appreciated because most people bring up the whole going to GSW thing and other decisions before we speak on the things Kd has done right and accomplished.
It's 100% just people bitter they made a team that was too good to beat, but that isn't even really true, Houston was so close to taking them out if CP3 didn't get hurt they probably do it. But the anger over that has completely clouded how great Durant is.
at this point its less about GSW and more that he hasnt won anything without GSW. If he doesnt get it done in Phoenix he'll probably retire having played for 5 or more teams
How is he under appreciated? He’s over hated bc he joined a super team and is Twitter warrior(which I like tbh). Everyone including his haters have him too 15 which means even if they verbally say his rings don’t mean much when they rank him they don’t devalue them bc KD isn’t top 20 wo those rings and fmvps.
Perk spittin today
He’s burning a cross tonight.
He right where he needs to be.
Perk you definitely right ✅️ my brother
First time seeing Canty like sports and he was great. more of him!
KD had way more help than Aaron Rodgers, stop it Canty
Eh , not if we talking both sides of the football 😂
I actually personally think JJ is right, KD is underrated because he should also be getting Lebron treatment because he is RELATIVELY as good as he said (15 straight 25ppg seasons, multiple championships and mvps).
What I think JJ is meaning and everyone who agrees is that KD isn’t getting ENOUGH spotlight treatment. Like we all still respect the Suns a whole lot from a playoff perspective but in regards to how we look at Lebron n stuff I think KD is a little undervalued or at least under recognized by the entire basketball community. I know I personally haven’t given KD his flowers as much lately but that’s also literally because Lebron hit Major milestones and is still lethal at the 8-9-10 seed.
I understand both sides on this tbh
By far this is Perk best take since he has been in TV
Naw perk really be cooking. He’s just unpopular
Not much competition tho. 99/100 times he's dead wrong
@@TheMissiIe 🤣 true
@@BSTVsports his cooking is equivalent to to raisins in potato salad
I concur. It's remarkable that at 35, you can still play at such a high level.
They judge LeBron for not getting it done but not KD??? Ok!
See Molly does I again interrupting the man can speak for him self
Perk got it right. You don’t have to talk about KD like Jordan just because he’s good. There’s a reason we talk about bron and Jordan the way we do.
Players above KD all time (no order): Jordan, Bron, Kareem, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Shaq, Curry, Hakeem, Oscar, Zeke, & West!
Durant is in the KG, Jokic & Dirk tier
Who is Zeke? And Jerry West is not greater than KD. He lost 8 nba finals.
@@jaxsonburch-eo1vzthat’s Isaiah Thomas brodie
jerry west is not greater all time then KD
Oscar, Isaiah, Curry, west and Wilt are not above KD all time and Russell is debatable...you're on something
@@marcj0426 He isn’t greater than kd all time
Aaron Rodgers comparison was stupid.
Yea idk where he was going with that
Great basketball takes my Canty. He came with it today
i love this trio ! great discussion!
JJ meat riding current NBA players…just another day at the office😂😂😂
Every time!😂
Facts
And casuals like you and Perk do the same 😂 just in a negative way. If you can’t do what they do then stfu
Not underappreciated. Undercriticized. For someone who people has argued is better than LeBron, he doesn't get LeBron like criticism. His every move isn't criticized, including the moves of his kids. Let's stop it and be for real. KD for the majority of his career has gotten excuses moreso than criticism
Cap stop making it bout lebron
@@X_Noah_Lil_X How's it cap ? And I have to make it about LeBron to put KD's career in the best perspective. He's been compared to LeBron for like a decade, so that's the standard I have to hold him to
KD don't even have kids you casual 😂
@@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk bro, I'm talking about LeBron's kids
@@jctslice oh ok my bad
I agree w basically everything said, especially Canty. There was various incentives for a smart NBA vet like JJ to say those things. I think underappreciated is not the correct word. Scrutinized, or polarizing whether right or wrong. Those are more fitting.
JJ is right. Instead of talking about how KD has been playing great this season we’re still getting “where is his leadership?” “Can he win without Steph” “why KD is not in the goat conversation” discussions. Stop talking like the book of his career is closed, he’s still playing at a high level and we don’t know what could happen. Keep in mind what KD has been able to do post an Achilles tear is nothing short of insane but they gloss over that too.
Perk is right. The grazing needs to stop.
yes KD had some teammates fail on him and leave on him and make bad decisions and he played well in those moments. but at the end of the day he didn't get the chip on his own and it didn't happen. we ant debate if its not his fault or not but what we cant do is give him credit for a championship or something on his own when he hasn't done it.
When you’re as great of a player as KD. It will always be expected of his legacy to include leading a team to a championship. No matter how you slice it, him joining the warriors will always have a sour taste in people’s mouths and rightfully so. Coming from a warriors fan.
And to add insult to injury. The warriors have won before and after him and he has generally not had any playoff success since. And he had a chance to do it before he came to the warriors and fell short. KD will never be appreciated legacy wise like a Giannis or even Jokic tbh
Perk 1000% correct
KD never will get it done being the leader of his team
Love when the segments just turn into “I’m talking louder so I get to go”. Sounds like my siblings fighting.
This Durant slander has to stop get off that man nuts. He’s one of the greatest ever his game speaks for itself. Idk why ESPN can’t just let him be great they always try to put some narrative next to what he’s done. I never seen them ride a player like this smh
Durcan't needed a championship winning team without him to win. We need Durantula to win a championship without a championship winning team...
@@jada8047Wade won a chip before bron. Does that hold any asterisk ? Like it does for kd ?
@DevDemoe Wade had help his help was gone
@@jada8047 that’s facts I can’t disagree with that. I’m just saying the man one of the greatest they talk like he isn’t with what he’s already done. Regardless if he got a ring by himself or not
@TeMonMolley yea man I wanna see Durantula win one without the team that beat him.. The journey of winning a championship is better when you win on a team that can't get to the Finals without you
even when perk's saying normal stuff he makes it sound dumb. the perspective of JJ on this was that KD is often ignored. No one is appreciating his game, despite the fact that he is currently averaging almost 30 ppg this season. his last week was amazing, the man is turning 36 this year, the production he has, we ignore it because of the narrative around him. JJ is right again, and perk just wants to say whatever so that he is a part of the discussion.
Man is not ignored. The man ran to a 73 win team and that is the only time he ever won. He been on several super teams since and hasn’t won since. Man did it to himself.
a 73 win team that lost to lebron in the finals. there is context that is needed. KD has 2 finals MVPs that no one argues, because he was the best player on that team. I get the whole argument that he is not a leader or that you wouldn't want to build around him, but he is literally one of the best pure scorers ever. incomplete as a player but what he does no one else can do. as for the superteam argument its the same thing again. he's not a leader, so you need a pseudo number 1 option on the team regardless of him, which is how he works out. on the nets there was no one as good, and on the suns they came close to winning precisely because booker and CP3 together made up that number 1 option. If the suns win a chip KD would again probably be the FMVP.
Kendrick is 100 percent right
I'm a normal person and I appreciate KDs game. These guys jus waffling. KD is a great player and everyone knows it, we just don't respect him so much because of the decisions he has made.
I finally understand the value of a championship now…….
Nobody in their right mind would give a flying bleep about what Perky says if he isn’t a “champion”….. i mean most of us still don’t give a bleep but apparently there are enough people out there that do give a bleep for him to get a broadcasting job…….
Aaron Rodgers never played with another MVP
People sound stupid saying KD has to get it done on his own. Who has ever got it done on their own? I’ll wait
Dirk
I think they mean it has to be his team when winning, when he won with golden state, it was Curry's team, when LeBron won, it was his team
KD is a superstar caliber steady contributor to a team. But as far as a guy that could actually lead a team in winning a chip, imo, that's where he falls short of
Perk has really come a long way... better takes, better debating
A brotha tearing down another brotha, I guess us as ✊🏾 ppl don’t wanna stop self hate towards each other, keep the cycle going Big Perk.
I agree with Perk 100% here!
this might be the first and only time i agree with kendrick perkins. a majority of the criticism aimed at KD is self inflicted. He was one of the most liked players in the league in 2016.
It always amazes me how Perk always leaves out he was on the team when they lost😂😂😂
Accountability??? I definitely agree with KP and the other analyst.
5:25 Canty made some good points !
In nba everyone cried publicly to get paid, to get appreciated, to get mvp. But when it comes to deliver. Crying for help, scapegoating everyone but himself, and still failing. Even giannis said there is no failure in nba. These people run from accountability, that’s why it is a joke of a sport. It’s a show not a sport
That’s FAX right there “nobody has done less with more” KD doesn’t get criticized like other greats for failing over and over again
lol KD is the most protected superstar of all time. JJ panders and needs to be called out for it.
This one of Perk best takes
@ESPN you guys made a mistake in the time stamps. Chris Canty is not the NBA version of the NBA lol
KD is better than LeBron, I`ve always considered him more dominant than LB.
I’m really tired of this KD slander. Idc what anyone says no one has won without any all stars in their team. We seen all the greats lose in pressure moments. Steph game 6 vs raptors, Bron in 2011 finals vs mavs, kawhi blew a 3-1 lead vs nuggets, but somehow we still keep referring to Kd when literally every superstar has had their bad games. Y’all don’t get tired of this? It gets old bruh. KD is an all time great no matter what and has proven himself. If we judging from winning without any all stars on their team then those guys i mentioned can’t be all time greats either because they didn’t win without all stars
Jokic did it.....he was only All-Star in the team....
@@KOAP33Murray could have been the finals MVP
@@supernova9721not an all-star
@@KOAP33Murray is a all star just wasn’t that year
They seem to conveniently forget the superteam one Lebron created…”Not 1, not 2, not 3🤣” even before KD ever created one. The fanboys are simply mad he took two rings from Lebron. It’s that simple!
That Aaron Rodgers to kd comparison was crazy ngl
KD took the easy way, and we all know it. That’s why he gets criticized… period
JJ thinks he's an NBA guru. Dude's only credit is that he played in the league as a white boy.
Jj has NEVER held a player accountable in his life. He’s a coddler. Which is KD’s problem already
Perk nailed that
I miss when greatness wasn’t ONLY on who wins the championship. Obviously it is and should be important but there’s a lot of stuff that is out of players control when it comes to winning. People forget that there can only be 1 champion every year
Which is why Lebron is truly the greatest. 4 rings is a solid amount of championships and he’ll finish top 5 in all major stat categories. His style of play is “everything and everywhere” making him the most selfless player we’ve seen since Magic. Imagine if he chose the “Jordan Killer Instinct/Mamba Mentality” he’d average 45 a game and would have passed the all-time scoring record 5 years ago. If KD pulled a LeBron & went BACK to OKC to resurrect the franchise I would gladly put him as a contender for the GOAT debate.
Perk is never going to like JJ’s opinion, because just like the game they both played JJ could do it & Perk could watch Him.
What's funny is what gil said about kd after the Isiah draymond interview gil said 1 man sacrificed his status and career to elevate 3 but he the one people hate on
Perk preaching that GOSPEL
I don’t usually agree with perk but he’s right that there’s other players more deserving of that underrated label demar derozan will always come to wind he’s an underrated hall of famer
4:00 I can probably revise my comment with this minute marker but ya no he spoke all the facts. People like me who I happen to be a Clippers fan/Lebron Supporter are the ones who have under appreciated KD. So thank yall… got me realizing this might be a nothing segment 😂😂
Everything perk & the other guy was saying is on point. I don’t understand why JJ & KD & his fans don’t understand.
Get off the BS!!all the normal people love and appreciate and respect KD. It's the analysts and all the people on TV who underappreciate him. Listen to all the hate you guys got for him . Back to back finals MVP back-to-back championships. In my Chad ocho Cinco voice. (Child please)..
They never talk about the injuries they dealt with when he was in Brooklyn!
People know. It's just the media brainwash people to devalue great players who doesn't allow the league to dictate their careers.
They were well on their way to a 🏆
Because That’s excuses man. They had 4 whole years together. Didn’t even get pass the second round…stop with the bias stuff. Because the 2 years they wasn’t injured they still got shredded in the playoffs.
Thank you tired of people saying that people been saying that B's since 2021@@Gwaniegwan
@@Gwaniegwan With James Harden he was beating the champions the bucks and then lost because of injury. The other year he got swept by Boston. That's 2 years where do you get 4 from 😂 🤡
The comment done less with more is completely wrong and missing context.
OKC: when they went to the finals, Durant showed up. It was Harden who was still very young to struggled mightily and Westbrook who was playing out of control.
With the nets: the team gutted the roster to get James Harden only to have Harden and Kyrie get hurt in the playoffs. Otherwise that team would’ve easily won the next couple of finals. Then Harden asks for a trade and the team gets less than Pennies on the dollar.
Durant is not the leader that James is and doesn’t know how to motivate people, but as a talent and player, he’s right there with everyone.
KD joining the warriors is equivalent to Jordan joining the Celtics after losing to them or Kobe joining the Spurs dynasty after losing to them. Of course Jordan and Kobe would be the finals mvp but that’s because they went to a system that was already successful. Neither would get credit for taking the easy route to a championship. Instead they remained with their team and built around themselves to lead a team to multiple rings.
I think KD is properly appreciated. We recognize him as one of the greatest players, he's in the top 75, we know him as one of the greatest and most efficient scorers ever. Those are all things people say when he's being described. Now if he wants to be Goated , then yes we are going to line up what he's done with other Goats (MJ, Bron etc.) and he doesn't quite measure up. People also are going to have their opinions about his performances (Part of the reason he gets paid what he does).
That's a GREAT analysis of KD. Bullseye
Despite his pathetic decision to join the most stacked team in basketball, Kevin Durant is not in the goat conversation because he WANTED to leave gsw and win on his own, and he haven't won yet. He WANTED, didn't do it, not yet.
That's good stat Jj. Doesn't mean people under appreciated. He skilled he's talented he has good stats and even plays defense. His rings dont weigh the same per the route he took. But he has opportunity to prove he can win outside of being on Golden State.
The fact that he went to Golden State is going to make a lot of haters not appreciate his greatness. Well my question is though, a super team considered that when everyone is traded to that team instead of being drafted?
Back to back finals MVP when Steph was playing sub par,I think he lead a team to two chips…..
KD > Perkins as a player.
JJ > Perk as an analyst..
What are we even talking about here?
You’d think Jj a female the way these boys go defend him every time in the comments
Perk speaking fax on both KD and on Dwight gobert and demar