I've never really understood why ginyu is considered low teir. Sure his combos can be hard to learn but if he gains momentum, VERY few people can stop him. I'm still trying to learn how to play him effectively, but he is a blast to play!
It's one of those things where there have always been way easier character choices in the game, so he's been looked at as not worth learning. But yes, he's incredibly good and incredibly fun!
Tbh I really feel putting him at bottom 3 is disingenuous to Ginyu. In my opinion, he is probably mid to almost high tier (no higher tho due to power creep)
As much as Ginyu is indeed a good character, there are some things that keep him down in most people's opinion: -Hard to learn; -Low damage output (aside for corner combos and highly optimized combos, which are very damaging); -Very gimmick reliable: without his gimmick, he's pretty bad when compared to other characters. This means that if your opponent finds a way around the GF and/or plays a character that makes it easier, you're in for a bad time; -No low 2L and second slowest 2M in the game (Terrible high-low mix); -Slightly above than average mix: the only good thing he has is that the force can cause visual noise, which makes it harder to see the mix, but aside from that, he can't do anything fancy.
I’m relatively new to traditional fighting games, and recently realized I either like grappler characters or mixup heavy characters. Ginyu seems difficult to learn, but I can’t wait for how much fun I’ll have after I get past that initial learning/execution curve!
You missed 3 big details about Ginyu's B assist and body change 1. B assist also generates meter, ¼ bar the first time, ½ bar the second, and ¾ bar the third before repeating from the start 2. If Ginyu changes bodies with Ginyu, they can still use body change and call in members of the Ginyu force. 3. Swapping with Ginyu also gives you their cycle, so if the enemy Ginyu has Recoome as his next summon and you swap bodies, you will call out Recoome as your next summon. And despite how it would make sense, the Ginyu force members also change colors with the Ginyu, so if you're using color 01 and swap with color 02, all the members you summon will also use color 02.
Thank you for demonstrating once again that not everyone is meant to teach! Also your post is incredibly ironic, and honestly very funny. It seems you missed some very crucial details my friend. First of all, not only did I mention the meter build from ginyu B, but did you happen to take a look at when this guide was posted? The buffed meter build had not be implemented at the time of this guide. However I did make a follow up video that covers that information. Second this is a "how to play" guide. The purpose of this guide, as stated, is to teach people what they need to know to pick up this character. The intricate minutia of specific rules concerning swapping specific characters is absolutely not key information that someone needs in order to pick up this character. Once again, I made a separate video covering the ins and outs of body change, as it's a broad topic that I don't want bogging down a beginners guide that is already over 30 minutes long. I'd suggest you work on your own observation skills before deciding anyone else has "missed details".
Nice guide -- looking forward to the next one! Also, side note for his B assist for people who might want to use it - While it always follows the "S, 236S, 214S, S" pattern, you can shuffle around the order by using his S attack on point, so if you plan ahead, you can avoid using his B assist to call out something like the Recoome Bomber if you want. And if you play Ginyu point before switching out, you can set it up to get the Purple Comet attack all loaded up which is kind of insane for other characters to have as an assist. Kind of feels like playing with a loaded deck of cards. Ginyu plays super dirty -- I love it :D
Thank you so much for showing the numpad notation image at the beginning. I just started playing and have had no idea what people meant by 2m and the likes
true! I actually recorded that information, but decided to cut it for time. Wanted to try and keep this under 30 minutes, but that proved to be impossible lol
yo,I just wanted to say that this guide is incredibly well made, probably the most concise and efficient dbfz guide i've ever seen. even though im ass at the game I think ur content is super underrated, keep up the amaizng work bro
So something I've gotten to work a few times, bearing mind that I'm a low skill player who plays against my low skill friends, is 214S Guldo, immediately vanish. Vanish kicks them into Guldo's attack, and you can follow with SD.
Summon into vanish is pretty good in certain situations! I didn't put it in this guide because it is punishable if the opponent is ready for it. However recoome S ~ vanish and Jeiece S~Vanish can be very difficult to 2H even if you're ready!
thanks for making this guide! your Ginyu plays are cool as hell and have inspired me to play Ginyu, and I'm glad i can get my info from the guy who made me want to play Ginyu in the first place. TY!
Could you explain more about how Ginyu B assist works? Because sometimes the ginyu force come out with different moves, I get Recoomes Bomber instead of his beam, and purple comet starts instead of Jeices Ki blast. Is there a way to tell which one you will get?
sure. Ginyu B rotates an input pattern along with the summons. It will always follow the patter of S, 236S, 214S. This is why its hard to keep track of what will come next. It is manageable however, as long as you keep track of the input rotation in your head as you play.
I hated how the Ginyu force were all just different sprites in previous games, and I equally love how in this game it's Captain Ginyu, and the rest of the Force are his specials. I wanna main Ginyu and Frieze outta respect for the developers.
Great guide man! Didn't realize body change can counter raw lvl 3. Definetely trying that out. For anyone interested, I'd like to give two tips on Recoome's beam summon: - When summoned on the ground, microdash right after. This way it autopunishes if the opponent vanishes or if he hits you with a normal (they won't hit Recoome). Also DON'T JUMP! The ground is your safe, happy place. You are protected from almost all attacks and you can safely summon Burter if they dodge jumping, where Burter will get them. - Combo ender: if you don't have smash/sliding knockdown when finishing a combo in the air, do shoulder and cancel into Recoome beam. Ginyu mantains the momentum from the shoulder, propelling him forward. This way you land closer to the opponent and Recoome is left offscreen, almost impossible to hit. IMO this combo ender is even stronger than sliding/hard knockdown.
This is easily one of the best guides I've ever seen especially on such an obscure character I'm sorry you're not getting the views to repay that amount of work but I really appreciate it and if you ever feel like making more videos like this in the future I definitely would watch you should try Android 18 since she's like the only other character to my knowledge that has a little buddy like Ginyu
@@MisterAcolyte yeah I'm going to be real I'm not the best player when it comes to fighting games it's just very difficult for me to dedicate so much time into a game like fighting games but I still enjoy playing them but with a guide like this I actually had it usable information as you broke down literally so much information in a way they can actually be digested and used most guys I've seen with this basically very basic tips that only new players could really benefit from and then tell you to go practice for 40 hours with the character to maybe make them playable or mentions they have potential but doesn't showcase it... so the fact that you not only show usable combos but step-by-step on ways to Branch out into other things shows how much work in you put into your videos
Wow, this was very informative! I learned some new things about him too. I'm not sure if I'll main him since I don't know what I'm doing with him yet but it did answer a lot of questions I had about him.
My biggest beef with Ginyu's lv 3 is that you can almost never kill a sparking character if you end a combo with it or even hit it raw. even if that sparking opponent has what seems to be little health he will continue recovering health while being hit by the Ginyu force through the lv3 animation. I think it is the worst lv3 in the whole game in terms of killing the spark. Also, it is the secondary lv3 since it was added later into the game, so when I mash it during blocking I get a super dash by mistake many times lol. I wish body swap would be Ginyu's secondary lv3 since it's the one that's more rarely used.
You seem to have made a mistake, this guide is incomplete. You forgot to cover how to play every single character in the entire game. -2 video, unsubbed, unliked, reported, posted on myspace without credit
@@MisterAcolyte oh okay cool I’m running him with baby since he’s one of my aces just trying find another character that I play that works with them both
@@MisterAcolyte been loving your clips. I would love to play you in a long set with you too. My Ginyu definitely would love to learn more stuff from you.
I've never really understood why ginyu is considered low teir. Sure his combos can be hard to learn but if he gains momentum, VERY few people can stop him. I'm still trying to learn how to play him effectively, but he is a blast to play!
It's one of those things where there have always been way easier character choices in the game, so he's been looked at as not worth learning. But yes, he's incredibly good and incredibly fun!
He's low tier because all the pro players are afraid of telling others how good he is because of how much Ginyu traumatized them online
Tbh I really feel putting him at bottom 3 is disingenuous to Ginyu. In my opinion, he is probably mid to almost high tier (no higher tho due to power creep)
As much as Ginyu is indeed a good character, there are some things that keep him down in most people's opinion:
-Hard to learn;
-Low damage output (aside for corner combos and highly optimized combos, which are very damaging);
-Very gimmick reliable: without his gimmick, he's pretty bad when compared to other characters. This means that if your opponent finds a way around the GF and/or plays a character that makes it easier, you're in for a bad time;
-No low 2L and second slowest 2M in the game (Terrible high-low mix);
-Slightly above than average mix: the only good thing he has is that the force can cause visual noise, which makes it harder to see the mix, but aside from that, he can't do anything fancy.
Go1 (DBFZ's best player ever in my opinion) picked up Ginyu for a little while and the result was scary to opponents.
I’m relatively new to traditional fighting games, and recently realized I either like grappler characters or mixup heavy characters. Ginyu seems difficult to learn, but I can’t wait for how much fun I’ll have after I get past that initial learning/execution curve!
can definitely vouch for how fun he is! Definitely worth sticking with him!
@@MisterAcolyte best part is that if you dont find Ginyu fun you can just switch with the oppopnent
You missed 3 big details about Ginyu's B assist and body change
1. B assist also generates meter, ¼ bar the first time, ½ bar the second, and ¾ bar the third before repeating from the start
2. If Ginyu changes bodies with Ginyu, they can still use body change and call in members of the Ginyu force.
3. Swapping with Ginyu also gives you their cycle, so if the enemy Ginyu has Recoome as his next summon and you swap bodies, you will call out Recoome as your next summon. And despite how it would make sense, the Ginyu force members also change colors with the Ginyu, so if you're using color 01 and swap with color 02, all the members you summon will also use color 02.
Thank you for demonstrating once again that not everyone is meant to teach! Also your post is incredibly ironic, and honestly very funny. It seems you missed some very crucial details my friend. First of all, not only did I mention the meter build from ginyu B, but did you happen to take a look at when this guide was posted? The buffed meter build had not be implemented at the time of this guide. However I did make a follow up video that covers that information. Second this is a "how to play" guide. The purpose of this guide, as stated, is to teach people what they need to know to pick up this character. The intricate minutia of specific rules concerning swapping specific characters is absolutely not key information that someone needs in order to pick up this character. Once again, I made a separate video covering the ins and outs of body change, as it's a broad topic that I don't want bogging down a beginners guide that is already over 30 minutes long. I'd suggest you work on your own observation skills before deciding anyone else has "missed details".
Just realized the order of the ginyu force is the order of their deaths💀
Nice guide -- looking forward to the next one!
Also, side note for his B assist for people who might want to use it - While it always follows the "S, 236S, 214S, S" pattern, you can shuffle around the order by using his S attack on point, so if you plan ahead, you can avoid using his B assist to call out something like the Recoome Bomber if you want. And if you play Ginyu point before switching out, you can set it up to get the Purple Comet attack all loaded up which is kind of insane for other characters to have as an assist. Kind of feels like playing with a loaded deck of cards. Ginyu plays super dirty -- I love it :D
thank you! and yes, Ginyu is a monster of possibilities! (which is why this guide was so long even after I cut several parts out xD)
I was waiting for this guide.
Cannot wait for the combo portion
i'll try not to keep you waiting long!
Finally I'll know what the hell I'm supposed to do when I get body switched
hahaha, i'd recommend just avoiding that situation if you can!
I picked ginyu against a friend for fun and found him insanely fun so i have been looking for a guide, this has helped so far
hahaha love to hear it!
TOKU SENTAI TOKU SENTAI TOKU SENTAI
YES SIR
What the hell, this long into the game's lifespan and it's only now I'm learning Ginyu's 5H is a low
lol! don't worry, I hit people with it every single day!
Thank you so much for showing the numpad notation image at the beginning. I just started playing and have had no idea what people meant by 2m and the likes
no problem! I'm glad it was helpful!
I'd REALLY love to see more of these cause I'm confused by a lot of things even after playing for 3 years
planning to do some more guides soon!
Very situational information, but when you have B assist equipped and body change, it will force the opponent to use the A assist instead.
true! I actually recorded that information, but decided to cut it for time. Wanted to try and keep this under 30 minutes, but that proved to be impossible lol
That makes sense. Thank you.
This might be one of (if not the) most down to earth, helpful and entertaining RUclipsrs on the platform. Thanks for the video
wow thanks so much! that really means a lot!
Me: *Sends guide to my friend*
Friend: "Why you send me this? I don't play Ginyu"
Me: "It's called...foreshadowing"
Friend: "...oh god no"
lol what have I done
Plot twist*
I'm a ginyu main
they'll never see it see it coming
yo,I just wanted to say that this guide is incredibly well made, probably the most concise and efficient dbfz guide i've ever seen. even though im ass at the game I think ur content is super underrated, keep up the amaizng work bro
wow thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
Amazing guide, I’m always on the fence about Ginyu but man you make it hard not to play him
hahaha thank you! And welcome to the squad!
@@MisterAcolyte The force*
So something I've gotten to work a few times, bearing mind that I'm a low skill player who plays against my low skill friends, is 214S Guldo, immediately vanish. Vanish kicks them into Guldo's attack, and you can follow with SD.
Summon into vanish is pretty good in certain situations! I didn't put it in this guide because it is punishable if the opponent is ready for it. However recoome S ~ vanish and Jeiece S~Vanish can be very difficult to 2H even if you're ready!
thanks for making this guide! your Ginyu plays are cool as hell and have inspired me to play Ginyu, and I'm glad i can get my info from the guy who made me want to play Ginyu in the first place. TY!
thanks so much! I'm really glad it was helpful!
Could you explain more about how Ginyu B assist works? Because sometimes the ginyu force come out with different moves, I get Recoomes Bomber instead of his beam, and purple comet starts instead of Jeices Ki blast. Is there a way to tell which one you will get?
sure. Ginyu B rotates an input pattern along with the summons. It will always follow the patter of S, 236S, 214S. This is why its hard to keep track of what will come next. It is manageable however, as long as you keep track of the input rotation in your head as you play.
I hated how the Ginyu force were all just different sprites in previous games, and I equally love how in this game it's Captain Ginyu, and the rest of the Force are his specials. I wanna main Ginyu and Frieze outta respect for the developers.
This is the all time greatest implementation of Ginyu, I really hope that all future games utilize him even half as well as this team has.
I’ve lost to this ginyu 6 times now I want to play ginyu
lol you've come to the right place
Great guide man! Didn't realize body change can counter raw lvl 3. Definetely trying that out.
For anyone interested, I'd like to give two tips on Recoome's beam summon:
- When summoned on the ground, microdash right after. This way it autopunishes if the opponent vanishes or if he hits you with a normal (they won't hit Recoome). Also DON'T JUMP! The ground is your safe, happy place. You are protected from almost all attacks and you can safely summon Burter if they dodge jumping, where Burter will get them.
- Combo ender: if you don't have smash/sliding knockdown when finishing a combo in the air, do shoulder and cancel into Recoome beam. Ginyu mantains the momentum from the shoulder, propelling him forward. This way you land closer to the opponent and Recoome is left offscreen, almost impossible to hit. IMO this combo ender is even stronger than sliding/hard knockdown.
Thank you!
I actually love the way you did this visual guide. Thank you so much for your hard work. :)
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
Ginyu the secret Top Tier
This is easily one of the best guides I've ever seen especially on such an obscure character I'm sorry you're not getting the views to repay that amount of work but I really appreciate it and if you ever feel like making more videos like this in the future I definitely would watch you should try Android 18 since she's like the only other character to my knowledge that has a little buddy like Ginyu
Thank you so much! I'm really happy that this guide can actually be helpful!
@@MisterAcolyte yeah I'm going to be real I'm not the best player when it comes to fighting games it's just very difficult for me to dedicate so much time into a game like fighting games but I still enjoy playing them but with a guide like this I actually had it usable information as you broke down literally so much information in a way they can actually be digested and used most guys I've seen with this basically very basic tips that only new players could really benefit from and then tell you to go practice for 40 hours with the character to maybe make them playable or mentions they have potential but doesn't showcase it... so the fact that you not only show usable combos but step-by-step on ways to Branch out into other things shows how much work in you put into your videos
You really have a video for everything I was just wondering how to play Ginyu. DBFZ goat
Wow, this was very informative! I learned some new things about him too. I'm not sure if I'll main him since I don't know what I'm doing with him yet but it did answer a lot of questions I had about him.
I'm glad it was helpful! He takes a pretty good amount of time to learn but hes definitely worth it imo!
i think a cool thing they could do with ginyu b is that is your hold back or forward you'll get the 214s and 236s calls respectively.
THANK YOU! i've been saying that for so long lol wish they'd do it!
I ❤️ MAJIN ACOLYTE
Nice, are you ever gonna do like longer videos of full matches
yes! those are coming very soon! I plan to have a better balance in the future of Guides, Full Matches, and clips.
@@MisterAcolyte ive always loved playing unique characters like ginyu and zamasu so you really are a pleasure to watch
@@MisterAcolyte Exciting!
@@AhmadKhan-fk9io wow thank you! that really means a lot!
SPECIAL SQUAD🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Good guide i always thought that ginyu was a cool character but not sure how his s worked thanks for the guide
Thank you! I'm really happy to hear that!
Me, new to traditional fighting games, trying to learn the most complex character in a relatively complex fighting game:
hahaha welcome! I hope this guide was helpful!
This is the video i was looking for, thank you Majin
Thank you so much it helped me a lot
that's awesome! Really glad to hear that!
As someone who doesn't have any consoles and barely played any fighting games, Ginyu is a B A N G E R.
hes the goat
My biggest beef with Ginyu's lv 3 is that you can almost never kill a sparking character if you end a combo with it or even hit it raw. even if that sparking opponent has what seems to be little health he will continue recovering health while being hit by the Ginyu force through the lv3 animation. I think it is the worst lv3 in the whole game in terms of killing the spark. Also, it is the secondary lv3 since it was added later into the game, so when I mash it during blocking I get a super dash by mistake many times lol. I wish body swap would be Ginyu's secondary lv3 since it's the one that's more rarely used.
What’s with the “invalid” frame at 14:23
Jees
You seem to have made a mistake, this guide is incomplete.
You forgot to cover how to play every single character in the entire game.
-2 video, unsubbed, unliked, reported, posted on myspace without credit
lol wow
His 5H is a low.... Ginyu time.
You did it! You crazy son of a b!tch, you did it.
(That's a meme. I meant no disrespect toward you).
Thank you for this masterpiece.
Ayeee thank u
you're welcome! :D
Me encantaría que hubieran subtítulos en español o la voz
thank you for the suggestion! I'm not sure how to do that but i will try!
Do you think you will make a zamasu s4 guide?
im planning to work on one after the ginyu guides are done!
GO GO POWER RANGERS--
I love Racoom s214 for 21 and z Broly players. It a huge big fk you to them and they can't do nothing 🤣 .
lol that man Recoom says "no."
Hey aco nice vid but could you do a ginyu guide???
hahahaha
Ok phew I’m gonna be in the lab with this one
it's time
@@MisterAcolyte it’s a little rough but I’m having fun
@@TevinDavisSailorgainz18 im glad!
Frieza next?
haha I did do a guide on all his new season 4 stuff!
I just love how they did Ginyu 😂
same! it's such a perfect playstyle for him! every game up till now just had him doing the shoulder and milk canon xD
Imagine if he had all of his summons available at any time
he'd be cracked lol
bg music?
Ngl that intro went WAY too hard 👀😬😬 (loved the video!)
Thank you! Glad I finally got a chance to use it! lol
Music?
Hey is this guide updated can’t remember if the last patch was within a year
yes! all this information still applies! the only difference is now his 5S is ki blast invul! everything else is the same!
@@MisterAcolyte oh okay cool I’m running him with baby since he’s one of my aces just trying find another character that I play that works with them both
Who is Jeese?
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@@MisterAcolyte been loving your clips. I would love to play you in a long set with you too. My Ginyu definitely would love to learn more stuff from you.
@@Axeice damn man i really appreciate that! I'm definitely down for some sets, that'd be awesome!
Ayo bro fork over the music list I'm jamming
hahaha it's the Marvel Vs Capcom OST!
sick pfp code geass is awesome
Thanks! My favorite Anime!
Dang, frame perfect 'invalid'. Awesome guide
thank you!
Is this outdated or nah
still up to date!
@@MisterAcolyte nice
It's not a shoulder bro, it's an elbow
yikes