It's funny - I got all those just swapping out a fog / driving light (didn't even notice it at the time, either). My days as a hand model are over... sigh. ;-)
Thank you so much Mark! I was looking everywhere for the door that hid the element. Took the back off, took the side off! Only you knew it was a drop down from the bottom front! Thanks for sharing. Wish me luck I'm going in... Worked like a charm once I knew where to perform the surgery!
The replacement part number I have is 318601604 (can't say that's absolutely the right element for your oven, of course). This supposedly supersedes 318601601 and 808650402. I just checked and www.searspartsdirect.com "claims" to have them in stock (a little under $200). FWIW, that's where I got mine - they under-packed it and it arrived broken, but they did send another one out free (though they didn't alert me, so it was kind of a blind waiting process). Also, I've something they had "in stock" and they went silent for weeks, then told me the part was discontinued... so they have inventory issues (at least). There are probably other places to get them, but they are very fragile, and I'd be careful about installing a used element, as it might be even MORE fragile, and could have some pretty near-fatal flaws when you get it even if it does work.
Thanks for your quick reply. I'm going to remove my lower element in hopes of 1st, seeing an obvious short or fault and 2nd maybe a part number on it somewhere.
@@marklittle9341 my guess is that you will find that the element itself is open. There may or may not be an obvious spot where that happened, but there's really no way to fix it other than a new heating element.
I have a Kenmore Elite Electric slide in range Model #790.4256.9310. This unit has 4 heating elements in it. A top broil element, a rear convection element, a lower bake element and a warming drawer element on the very bottom. When I select a desired oven temperature, the oven preheats using the top, rear and bake elements. There is a corresponding “element in use” indication during preheat including the lower bake element. Once the desired temperature is reached, only the bake element is supposed to maintain the oven temperature. It’s at this point that I’m stumped. I suspected a bad lower bake element but did a continuity check and it appeared fine. Do you know where I might be able to look next? Thanks
@@marklittle9341 Another common failure point is the relay. Each of the heating elements has its own relay (easy to ID from the color of wires). Your scenario is exactly the same as my range... The oven heats up fine and then the temperature drops because the lower element doesn't work. If you're comfortable with using a voltmeter on high voltage circuits, it should be fairly easy to trace down the issue. What kind of resistance did you measure on that bottom element? Was it disconnected?
Just did this to mine…. Whew… Most annoying oven ever… remove the whole oven to replace an element? it's like a car where you have to pull the motor to change the oil filter…
I guess that's the price for having a concealed bake element. All in all, it seems like a questionable design choice (can't believe it's nearly as efficient as an old-school "out in the open" bake element. You're right - that's a lot like an Italian car where aesthetics overrule good engineering. ;-) But hope the video helped (if only to squash any hope for doing it an easier way). ;-)
When you see all the unabashed cuts and scrapes on the uploader's hands on display, you know you're in good hands. Thanks for the insight, friend.
It's funny - I got all those just swapping out a fog / driving light (didn't even notice it at the time, either). My days as a hand model are over... sigh. ;-)
Thank you so much Mark! I was looking everywhere for the door that hid the element. Took the back off, took the side off! Only you knew it was a drop down from the bottom front! Thanks for sharing. Wish me luck I'm going in...
Worked like a charm once I knew where to perform the surgery!
I think armed with the knowledge you have now, it's going to be a piece of cake. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
Thank You
You're very welcome
What was your element part number?? Mine is AP6893222 but can't seem to find one in stock.
The replacement part number I have is 318601604 (can't say that's absolutely the right element for your oven, of course). This supposedly supersedes 318601601 and 808650402. I just checked and www.searspartsdirect.com "claims" to have them in stock (a little under $200). FWIW, that's where I got mine - they under-packed it and it arrived broken, but they did send another one out free (though they didn't alert me, so it was kind of a blind waiting process). Also, I've something they had "in stock" and they went silent for weeks, then told me the part was discontinued... so they have inventory issues (at least). There are probably other places to get them, but they are very fragile, and I'd be careful about installing a used element, as it might be even MORE fragile, and could have some pretty near-fatal flaws when you get it even if it does work.
Thanks for your quick reply. I'm going to remove my lower element in hopes of 1st, seeing an obvious short or fault and 2nd maybe a part number on it somewhere.
@@marklittle9341 my guess is that you will find that the element itself is open. There may or may not be an obvious spot where that happened, but there's really no way to fix it other than a new heating element.
I have a Kenmore Elite Electric slide in range Model #790.4256.9310. This unit has 4 heating elements in it. A top broil element, a rear convection element, a lower bake element and a warming drawer element on the very bottom. When I select a desired oven temperature, the oven preheats using the top, rear and bake elements. There is a corresponding “element in use” indication during preheat including the lower bake element.
Once the desired temperature is reached, only the bake element is supposed to maintain the oven temperature. It’s at this point that I’m stumped. I suspected a bad lower bake element but did a continuity check and it appeared fine.
Do you know where I might be able to look next?
Thanks
@@marklittle9341 Another common failure point is the relay. Each of the heating elements has its own relay (easy to ID from the color of wires). Your scenario is exactly the same as my range... The oven heats up fine and then the temperature drops because the lower element doesn't work. If you're comfortable with using a voltmeter on high voltage circuits, it should be fairly easy to trace down the issue. What kind of resistance did you measure on that bottom element? Was it disconnected?
Just did this to mine…. Whew… Most annoying oven ever… remove the whole oven to replace an element? it's like a car where you have to pull the motor to change the oil filter…
I guess that's the price for having a concealed bake element. All in all, it seems like a questionable design choice (can't believe it's nearly as efficient as an old-school "out in the open" bake element. You're right - that's a lot like an Italian car where aesthetics overrule good engineering. ;-) But hope the video helped (if only to squash any hope for doing it an easier way). ;-)