@@Zerobob26 My problem with your statement is that there are hundreds of Star Trek episodes across all the series, and chances are anything they could possibly think of to do on The Orville could arguably resemble a Trek episode.
Can't wait to hear your take on the 'Identity' episodes. Let's just say that I'm still in shock from last week. It's always been a fun show but now they are proving they have some huge balls.
Considering the Identity 2-parter, it's pretty obvious that they went very light on the early episodes to use the budget on essentially creating a movie!
The beginning was a bit slow, and not really a punch, but every single episode had something in it. Although when I actually here the phrase "we are at Moclus", I roll my eyes slightly, there were really enough Bortus centered episodes. But altogether, the second season is getting better and better, and I really can´t wait for Friday now. I will really miss Alara, she was the best character for me.
To be fair one of the Moclan eps, the porn one was meant for S1. It was already filmed and was supposed to air last season but they held it over for some reason. Then with Alara leaving they were forced to air it in that order. That's why S2 seems moclan heavy since there is an extra ep that wasn't supposed to be there.
To be fair "Primal Erges" was more about addiction and the marriage component was just the trigger. When Borus was telling Issic how it made him feel, that's how any addiction turn if it goes on long enough and keeps getting worse.
I didn't get that feeling, regarding what you said about Bortus and Klydon's relationship and political correctness. After seeing Discovery, this show is a breath of fresh air in those regards. I honestly liked About a Girl even moreso because of how it ended. I think you'll enjoy the next few episodes =)
I can't wait to hear your opinion on the episodes involving the doctor/robot relationship. It pans out in the most obvious conclusion you would expect from dating a robot. I knew it was coming from the very first loving smile the doc had gave Isaac
I'm loving The Orville. While I agree the eps have been kinda inconsistent, it's wild swings have been between 7/10 and 9/10. I don't recall there's been a serious clunker yet.
Dan is my favourite character. Just because he says the wrong things at the wrong time. When he introduced himself to the porn simulation, nearly ended me. So subtle but so funny.
I was really sad that Alara left I liked her character a lot and didn’t know the actress was leaving ahead of time so it was a surprise to me but still thought it was a really good episode
Same here. I haven't seen a single bad episode of this show yet, and even at its weakest, it's light years ahead of STD. Don't listen to the millennial naysayers - they just need to grow a sense of humour
Loving this show so much I really hope it lasts for a very long time I wish they would show the episodes earlier in the UK either as simulcast or a day later like they do with TWD
What I loved about Alara's farewell scene was you could literally see the actress's face turning red. There's no doubt in my mind that was a genuine response to the moment of her character saying her (hopefully not forever) goodbyes to the Orville family.
There's one thing I really, really appreciated about episode two...75 people to save, only time to save 30 of them. And they draw lots to see who lives and who dies. No technobabble fix-all like what Star Trek would do more often than not. Just...Pure tragedy, handled with dignity and grace.
The reason the earlier eps are so character driven was because they were building towards a big ep(s) that is quite a leap forward to bring the show to that next level... and there was quite a bit of f/x and action involved... you will see
I just finished season 2 and loved every episode. Boris is my favorite character. I love seeing him interact with his family. The 9 to 5 battle scene is must watch TV.
The only thing that was really off with Alara's episode was the rolling hills of her planet. Any super-Earth capable of crushing a metal bottle flat under its own weight wouldn't have hills or mountains or anything of the sort. Trees wouldn't be able to sprout either. Bipeds fairly improbable. Beautiful scenery yes, but physically impossible. Other than the science snafu, it's my favourite episode so far.
Any creatures able to walk around on that planet would be short, stocky and extremely muscular - so Alara would have legs like an elephant. Having said that, the scientific bloopers in this show are really insignificant compared to STD (Sonar in space, anyone?)
I'm starting to feel like they should have had another alien on the main cast. Every time they need to deal with a subject too sensitive for a human, they go to Bortus. I would have liked it dulled out to other character races, as Bortus has been getting too much focus for my tastes.
Halston Sage leaving, I can't help but suspect there's some politics. She's ridiculously beautiful, and maybe Adrianne wanted to be the hot one. OR Maybe this is like when Denise Crosby beamed off TNG for oblivion. Whatever happens, I hope we get to see a lot more of Halston. It was unfair to cover her face with those appliances in the first place. Would like to see them toned down on whoever else comes from her planet. They can say the bumps disappear with age. :D
I like the show, it’s a fun take on the “space explorer” genre of shows. And the CG isn’t that bad, either. I often find myself smiling by the end of the episodes, and that’s a good thing. Seth is doing a great job, especially when he ties in actors from other Trek shows. I LOVE IT!
The "Bad influence" kid the doctor's son was with hacked TWO different computer systems without anyone finding out! (Replicator & Grading System.) Good god! Sign this kid up for "Star Fleet" immediately! In the Computer Espionage unit if nothing else! Then have him detail HOW he was able to break into BOTH systems! Good god! The Orville's computer systems are obviously VERY vulnerable! The Doc's kid can be admonished, etc., but this COMPUTER GENIUS needs to be cultivated and appreciated!!!!
Very good and fair review. I too felt a slight queezy feeling at the "lip service" paid to left wing issues, but in fairness this was also present in the original Star Trek (e.g. Kirk kissing O'hura).
Truly The Orville is one of tv's finest space based shows to hit the tv in a long time... Yes it lacks the seriousness and intensity of Babylon 5, or any of the Star Trek series (excluding the disaster currently on tv), but The Orville finally makes me want to invest in characters making their way through space. Thank you Seth for your INCREDIBLY talented team of show writers and actors. I cannot wait for this show to finally gain some more bandwagon supporters who say they were with you from the start....
Season 3 and beyond, please. The Orville is fantastic. It is not always perfect, but it's one of the best science fiction shows on right now. I also love the Expanse and Stranger Things. And I dearly hope they fix what they botched up in series 11 of Doctor Who.
Oh man the episode last week?!??!?! Can't wait till you get there and review it man! Mind blown by the elements of the classic Star Trek series put into it.
It is important to note that the first few episodes were actually hold overs from the first season and were not aired at that time. The second season has been strong.
Hopefully the writers remember that the reason for Alara's leaving the Orville should effect her replacement the same way in the same time frame as she is the same race...
We watch via Hulu and are caught up to Identity, which we're waiting to enjoy when both parts are available. I think this is the season The Orville has come into its own, the frat boy humor is receding (I believe "Ja'loja" was an S1 script not produced until S2) and it's operating more like straight-ahead SciFi. On the other hand, MacFarlane seems to be riding a bit of a hobbyhorse first detailed in "All the World is Birthday Cake", viz. that one is either progressive or prejudiced. One episode is particularly ham-handed in delivering that message but I won't tip it any more than that as you haven't gotten to it...
For real? What is the arc? Make peace and integrated the intolerant religious assholes as a part of the community (wink wink Humans and Klingon). How to achieve it - have some plot twists. Oh save the children, be kind. Face a bigger problem to solve it together. Fairy tale - and they all lived happily even after.
The porn addiction episode hit home hard with me. I used to have an addiction to it and it all stemmed from my inability to talk to my ex wife, because she hated discussing issues... bottling up my problems. Obviously my favourite episode of the first half of the season
What I haven't heard anyone mention is that they have three Macklin's on the ship. Each has to go to the bathroom one time of year. So that's three trips to the home planet every season just to piss?
The crawling start of the 2nd season can make even the more avid fans (such as i) to roll their eyes. But boy, does it pay off MASSIVELY in the later episodes! Makes you appreciate the slow beginning when you realize Seth McFarlane was actually preparing us for what's coming.
I wish the first couple of episodes with Bortus were edited together. Apparently one of them was a hold over from season one. It could have been a two parter - following Bortus and his issues moving towards the ending where stuff is resolved by him doing his pee ritual, maybe with their kid there too. The subplots of relationships and the action stuff could have been inter-spliced throughout the episode. They felt like they could have been edited together to form a more cohesive introduction to the season. They felt off being separate.
I say this a lot but after two seasons of Orville I feel like I know the Orville crew (both main characters and recurring guest characters) really well, and I can't say I know the characters very well after two seasons of Discovery.
Yes, the captain is kinda beta at times, but the teacher boyfriend was even more. Prime example of "non-toxic" guy, who is left alone in the end. Yes, the series does promote some aspects of PC culture or rather degenerated behavior like the old Star Trek did. There are some glimpses of good values such as for example showing that single mum doctor can't give to her boys, what father figure can albeit in a form of robot. The thing that could swing the pendulum towards having more positive messages, would be if the captain and his wife get back together at the end of this show.
the needy loving sick puppy quality of ed mercer was completely relatable to me. It's not at all emasculating dude. If you feel unconfortable seeing vulnerability it just shows how lenghthy you go on hiding your insecurities.
I'm not sure, but l think the inconsistency might be due to the revolving door of writers and directors for each episode. Seth wrote a few of the episodes, but many other people wrote and directed others, and l think that may be why there's a tonal whiplash of sorts from episode to episode.
One of my biggest complaints about the show, and it's not that big all things considered, is the acting of the two young boys playing the Doc's sons. They could have cast better child actors. Also the Isaac/Doc relationship was nonsensical and nonbelievable. Could have been pulled of with better writing and acting, but it wasn't.
the Orville may as well be the set on earth , all they do is fcuking moan about their feelings. ... its Eastenders or Neighbours etc set in space. should give all the characters handbags to match their space ship uniforms.
I'm a big trek fan and I watch The Orville to scratch my trek itch as it has a very TNG feel. TNG wasn't all great, but it had some really great episodes. The Orville has flashes of greatness within certain episodes but there's still a level of inconsistency and I don't feel like it's quite hitting the mark just yet. Still, it took TNG 2 seasons to actually get going (50 episodes in all if I remember right) so I'm certainly not giving up on The Orville, but I do wonder if it will ever truly stretch it's wings.
The Astrology episode had a massive plot hole that bugs me. The planet they visit throws kelly and Bortus into jail for their birthdays being in the wrong star sign.... BUT earth and moclus orbital periods won’t match that planet’s. The years will be shorter or longer. The next time their birthdays come about this planet will be in a completely different star sign. It’s a little nitpick but it really bugs me none of the characters notice this.
I agree with the Bortus/Moclan point, that it might just be a bunch of lip-service. For me, it helps to think of the Moclan not as gay-Klingons, but instead, something closer to gay-Jaffa. But even then, I think a better approach to the Moclans would have been for the writers to make more of their relationship aspects a mystery on the ship. Then, when the crew starts to pry, they find out that the Moclan keep these things a secret only from humans because of their historical background of persecution on the topic. Other species in the show (eventually) allude to human history, and the humans in the show have to explain how they've risen above it, so it would have worked for the Moclan world-building as well, as it relates to other specific cultures they encountered. Instead, as it turns out, the Moclans are worse than historical humans with regard to persecution, if you can believe it. Anyway, it is what it is. That opportunity has been lost and here's hoping that Moclan episodes get better.
Thats how exacly same as in every big work place - it is very realistic. Even between some The Orville's actors something happened, but in the different configuration ;)
I have massive problems with both of them. Everything from the plot to the minor details make no sense. So disappointing after the wonderful Alara episode.
The first 3 episodes, sucked because one ep (ep 2) was supposed to be aired in season 1. Then the other 2 eps had to be aired in that ordered due to the actress that played Alara leaving. It also explains why the first part of the season seemed weaker since it was already filmed and they had to use those eps. It's also the reason why S2 seems to be so much more Moclan obsessed since the extra episode that was held over from S1.
203 is probably my favorite of the series so far. And despite the somewhat lazy callback to the gender reassignment i thought 202 was quite good. That whole thing was frustrating. Nothing was resolved. "Hey, here's a topical thing." Then nothing.
To be honest, The Orville is the only show on television I get excited for right now. Everything else has pretty much played itself out.
And the expanse when season 4 get out?
*THE ORVILLE is the new STAR TREK!*
The only problem is it never tries to be its own show. It shamelessly lifts almost all of its ideas wholesale from Star Trek, or parodies them.
That's my issue as well.
no...just no...
just let startrek die in dignity
@@Zerobob26 nope this is the new Star Trek and secondly you do know that all shows borrow ideas etc from other shows
@@Zerobob26 My problem with your statement is that there are hundreds of Star Trek episodes across all the series, and chances are anything they could possibly think of to do on The Orville could arguably resemble a Trek episode.
Can't wait to hear your take on the 'Identity' episodes. Let's just say that I'm still in shock from last week. It's always been a fun show but now they are proving they have some huge balls.
It does get a lot better and I’m loving it
It's crazy how this season built from the first few episodes. A slow burn into insanity. The most recent episode was astoundingly good
When you get to Identity Part 1, wow, fantastic episode, one I was thinking about still the next day.
Considering the Identity 2-parter, it's pretty obvious that they went very light on the early episodes to use the budget on essentially creating a movie!
Orville always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I watch it.
Not much else does that anymore.
Always good to see Robert Picardo still getting work. :D
The beginning was a bit slow, and not really a punch, but every single episode had something in it. Although when I actually here the phrase "we are at Moclus", I roll my eyes slightly, there were really enough Bortus centered episodes. But altogether, the second season is getting better and better, and I really can´t wait for Friday now. I will really miss Alara, she was the best character for me.
To be fair one of the Moclan eps, the porn one was meant for S1. It was already filmed and was supposed to air last season but they held it over for some reason. Then with Alara leaving they were forced to air it in that order. That's why S2 seems moclan heavy since there is an extra ep that wasn't supposed to be there.
@@theelectricindian That would be a explanation...
To be fair "Primal Erges" was more about addiction and the marriage component was just the trigger. When Borus was telling Issic how it made him feel, that's how any addiction turn if it goes on long enough and keeps getting worse.
Hahahaha. You're just buttering us up for the Identity review. Awesome show.
The first episode, was made for the last season,but was held over,and it shows,the rest are solid
That was episode 2, you can tell by the lack of the dark matter cartographer.
Just wait until the next couple of episodes.... 👍🏻
Agreed, it starts to get really good REALLY quickly after the 1st 2 episodes.
@@thegyger except for the whole communism thing.
@@Touay. Yeah Seth pushed that chinese credit system really hard in that episode.
Touay that episode was so packed full of symbolism that it made my eye roll back so hard I couldn’t see for a week
The most recent episode will blow your mind - it really starts to get off its feet, really quite impressed by The Orville.
Best show on TV in my opinion.
Bigger and more ambitious is coming....
Alara's episode was magic. I was starting to think she was the best character on the show and now she's gone. Luckily, I really like her replacement!
She was one of my favourite characters. Her replacement is meh
"or else!" - alara's replacement
lol my boss had a boner for me. not a boner boner, a professional boner.
Last night's show was amazing. Whoa.
I'm loving this show.
I wish we could have got Robert Picardo to give us some sort of "Medical Emergency" line lol
I didn't get that feeling, regarding what you said about Bortus and Klydon's relationship and political correctness. After seeing Discovery, this show is a breath of fresh air in those regards. I honestly liked About a Girl even moreso because of how it ended.
I think you'll enjoy the next few episodes =)
I can't wait to hear your opinion on the episodes involving the doctor/robot relationship. It pans out in the most obvious conclusion you would expect from dating a robot. I knew it was coming from the very first loving smile the doc had gave Isaac
For me that episode was the worst one by far. There was no other plot line and the whole story stayed the same throughout. Very boring.
I'm loving The Orville. While I agree the eps have been kinda inconsistent, it's wild swings have been between 7/10 and 9/10. I don't recall there's been a serious clunker yet.
When Gordan is flying into Alara's planet and realizes that 'he's trash'...
...that was my favourite moment of the season.
Gordan is the best character
@@ZontarDow I'm a huge fan of Kelly now too. I wasn't crazy about her at the start of the season, but now just love her.
Dan is my favourite character. Just because he says the wrong things at the wrong time. When he introduced himself to the porn simulation, nearly ended me. So subtle but so funny.
You're in for a treat, the next episodes are amazing, particularly the one they released last week with a TNG-like cliffhanger!
I was really sad that Alara left I liked her character a lot and didn’t know the actress was leaving ahead of time so it was a surprise to me but still thought it was a really good episode
Funny to see Kermit the frog on the table of the captain :p
I met that guy when he was just an Ensign in starfleet. Always knew he had potential.
Man I love this show. You've got a lot of great episodes ahead of you.
I dont care what anybody says I love The Orville.
Same here. I haven't seen a single bad episode of this show yet, and even at its weakest, it's light years ahead of STD. Don't listen to the millennial naysayers - they just need to grow a sense of humour
But what does anybody say except that the show is flippin amazin
Wow, this part of the season feels like it was ages ago. The season just keeps getting better from here. Freaking love this show.
they get better and better each week-- love this show
Oh wait until you get into Identity Part 1
You want full potential, you get it there.
Loving this show so much I really hope it lasts for a very long time I wish they would show the episodes earlier in the UK either as simulcast or a day later like they do with TWD
Just wait until you watch Identity parts 1 and 2!
I did enjoy seeing Phlox again, he was my favourite character on Enterprise.
The best part is when the EMH and Dr. Phlox finally meet.
What I loved about Alara's farewell scene was you could literally see the actress's face turning red. There's no doubt in my mind that was a genuine response to the moment of her character saying her (hopefully not forever) goodbyes to the Orville family.
Everybody Loves Isaac...the spinoff show.
There's one thing I really, really appreciated about episode two...75 people to save, only time to save 30 of them. And they draw lots to see who lives and who dies. No technobabble fix-all like what Star Trek would do more often than not. Just...Pure tragedy, handled with dignity and grace.
The reason the earlier eps are so character driven was because they were building towards a big ep(s) that is quite a leap forward to bring the show to that next level... and there was quite a bit of f/x and action involved... you will see
I just finished season 2 and loved every episode. Boris is my favorite character. I love seeing him interact with his family. The 9 to 5 battle scene is must watch TV.
The only thing that was really off with Alara's episode was the rolling hills of her planet. Any super-Earth capable of crushing a metal bottle flat under its own weight wouldn't have hills or mountains or anything of the sort. Trees wouldn't be able to sprout either. Bipeds fairly improbable. Beautiful scenery yes, but physically impossible. Other than the science snafu, it's my favourite episode so far.
It's basically them ripping off superman
Any creatures able to walk around on that planet would be short, stocky and extremely muscular - so Alara would have legs like an elephant. Having said that, the scientific bloopers in this show are really insignificant compared to STD (Sonar in space, anyone?)
I'm in Ireland too loving your channel, glad I found it.
I'm starting to feel like they should have had another alien on the main cast. Every time they need to deal with a subject too sensitive for a human, they go to Bortus. I would have liked it dulled out to other character races, as Bortus has been getting too much focus for my tastes.
Halston Sage leaving, I can't help but suspect there's some politics. She's ridiculously beautiful, and maybe Adrianne wanted to be the hot one. OR Maybe this is like when Denise Crosby beamed off TNG for oblivion. Whatever happens, I hope we get to see a lot more of Halston. It was unfair to cover her face with those appliances in the first place. Would like to see them toned down on whoever else comes from her planet. They can say the bumps disappear with age. :D
Episode 1 was a season 1 leftover and was forced to be put into this season.
I like the show, it’s a fun take on the “space explorer” genre of shows. And the CG isn’t that bad, either. I often find myself smiling by the end of the episodes, and that’s a good thing. Seth is doing a great job, especially when he ties in actors from other Trek shows. I LOVE IT!
The "Bad influence" kid the doctor's son was with hacked TWO different computer systems without anyone finding out! (Replicator & Grading System.)
Good god! Sign this kid up for "Star Fleet" immediately! In the Computer Espionage unit if nothing else! Then have him detail HOW he was able to break into BOTH systems! Good god! The Orville's computer systems are obviously VERY vulnerable!
The Doc's kid can be admonished, etc., but this COMPUTER GENIUS needs to be cultivated and appreciated!!!!
I think the problem with the season opener was that it was supposed to be the last episode of the first season
Very good and fair review.
I too felt a slight queezy feeling at the "lip service" paid to left wing issues, but in fairness this was also present in the original Star Trek (e.g. Kirk kissing O'hura).
So far I’m loving this season!
Truly The Orville is one of tv's finest space based shows to hit the tv in a long time... Yes it lacks the seriousness and intensity of Babylon 5, or any of the Star Trek series (excluding the disaster currently on tv), but The Orville finally makes me want to invest in characters making their way through space. Thank you Seth for your INCREDIBLY talented team of show writers and actors. I cannot wait for this show to finally gain some more bandwagon supporters who say they were with you from the start....
I know everybody is crazy about the eight episode but the one with Alara was amazing. Top ten Star Trek episode of all time.
John Billingsley does evil really well.
I didn't even know they made a season 2 I'm so excited to watch it now.
Season 3 and beyond, please. The Orville is fantastic. It is not always perfect, but it's one of the best science fiction shows on right now. I also love the Expanse and Stranger Things. And I dearly hope they fix what they botched up in series 11 of Doctor Who.
Oh man the episode last week?!??!?! Can't wait till you get there and review it man! Mind blown by the elements of the classic Star Trek series put into it.
It is important to note that the first few episodes were actually hold overs from the first season and were not aired at that time. The second season has been strong.
Hopefully the writers remember that the reason for Alara's leaving the Orville should effect her replacement the same way in the same time frame as she is the same race...
We watch via Hulu and are caught up to Identity, which we're waiting to enjoy when both parts are available. I think this is the season The Orville has come into its own, the frat boy humor is receding (I believe "Ja'loja" was an S1 script not produced until S2) and it's operating more like straight-ahead SciFi. On the other hand, MacFarlane seems to be riding a bit of a hobbyhorse first detailed in "All the World is Birthday Cake", viz. that one is either progressive or prejudiced. One episode is particularly ham-handed in delivering that message but I won't tip it any more than that as you haven't gotten to it...
The episode last week with that twist was awesome
Identity was incredible can’t wait for tomorrow
Season 2 Episode 8 caught me of guard, didn't see that coming! :O
For real? What is the arc? Make peace and integrated the intolerant religious assholes as a part of the community (wink wink Humans and Klingon). How to achieve it - have some plot twists. Oh save the children, be kind. Face a bigger problem to solve it together. Fairy tale - and they all lived happily even after.
I saw the episode yesterday with my dad, and I LOVED it
It has to be noted that Ja'loja was initially the last episode of the first season.
The porn addiction episode hit home hard with me. I used to have an addiction to it and it all stemmed from my inability to talk to my ex wife, because she hated discussing issues... bottling up my problems.
Obviously my favourite episode of the first half of the season
What I haven't heard anyone mention is that they have three Macklin's on the ship. Each has to go to the bathroom one time of year. So that's three trips to the home planet every season just to piss?
The crawling start of the 2nd season can make even the more avid fans (such as i) to roll their eyes.
But boy, does it pay off MASSIVELY in the later episodes! Makes you appreciate the slow beginning when you realize Seth McFarlane was actually preparing us for what's coming.
I wish the first couple of episodes with Bortus were edited together. Apparently one of them was a hold over from season one. It could have been a two parter - following Bortus and his issues moving towards the ending where stuff is resolved by him doing his pee ritual, maybe with their kid there too. The subplots of relationships and the action stuff could have been inter-spliced throughout the episode. They felt like they could have been edited together to form a more cohesive introduction to the season. They felt off being separate.
I say this a lot but after two seasons of Orville I feel like I know the Orville crew (both main characters and recurring guest characters) really well, and I can't say I know the characters very well after two seasons of Discovery.
I enjoyed the review look forward to your opinion on the later episodes.
Yes, the captain is kinda beta at times, but the teacher boyfriend was even more. Prime example of "non-toxic" guy, who is left alone in the end. Yes, the series does promote some aspects of PC culture or rather degenerated behavior like the old Star Trek did. There are some glimpses of good values such as for example showing that single mum doctor can't give to her boys, what father figure can albeit in a form of robot. The thing that could swing the pendulum towards having more positive messages, would be if the captain and his wife get back together at the end of this show.
I'm sure a lot of the viewers would love to see Ed and Kelly get back together, but we all realise that this would totally ruin the show
@@countzero1136 Not if you do it at the very end, when the show is not going to continue anymore ... in whatever the last season is going to be.
@@apoc9ify it would have to be a build up then.
the needy loving sick puppy quality of ed mercer was completely relatable to me. It's not at all emasculating dude. If you feel unconfortable seeing vulnerability it just shows how lenghthy you go on hiding your insecurities.
Definitely move on with the series, it gets really good.
It's funny that the ad on this video for Captain Marvel
The next episodes after these are even better!
I'm not sure, but l think the inconsistency might be due to the revolving door of writers and directors for each episode. Seth wrote a few of the episodes, but many other people wrote and directed others, and l think that may be why there's a tonal whiplash of sorts from episode to episode.
I go from hating to loving it back and forth
Great television show!!
One of my biggest complaints about the show, and it's not that big all things considered, is the acting of the two young boys playing the Doc's sons. They could have cast better child actors.
Also the Isaac/Doc relationship was nonsensical and nonbelievable. Could have been pulled of with better writing and acting, but it wasn't.
Yeah! Star Trek did it far better! Plus on that episode, it was the only plot line and made the whole episode boring!
The kid actors aren't great, but that's a problem with kid actors in general. They're likeable enough that I don't mind.
get ready for the next few episodes Dave....
the Orville may as well be the set on earth ,
all they do is fcuking moan about their feelings.
... its Eastenders or Neighbours etc set in space.
should give all the characters handbags to match their space ship uniforms.
I'm a big trek fan and I watch The Orville to scratch my trek itch as it has a very TNG feel. TNG wasn't all great, but it had some really great episodes. The Orville has flashes of greatness within certain episodes but there's still a level of inconsistency and I don't feel like it's quite hitting the mark just yet. Still, it took TNG 2 seasons to actually get going (50 episodes in all if I remember right) so I'm certainly not giving up on The Orville, but I do wonder if it will ever truly stretch it's wings.
The Astrology episode had a massive plot hole that bugs me. The planet they visit throws kelly and Bortus into jail for their birthdays being in the wrong star sign.... BUT earth and moclus orbital periods won’t match that planet’s. The years will be shorter or longer. The next time their birthdays come about this planet will be in a completely different star sign. It’s a little nitpick but it really bugs me none of the characters notice this.
0:23 Oh-ho-ho, wait until you see the two-parter. You might change your mind at that point. :)
Dave, why haven't you done a review of the newest Battlestar Galactica?
I agree with the Bortus/Moclan point, that it might just be a bunch of lip-service. For me, it helps to think of the Moclan not as gay-Klingons, but instead, something closer to gay-Jaffa.
But even then, I think a better approach to the Moclans would have been for the writers to make more of their relationship aspects a mystery on the ship. Then, when the crew starts to pry, they find out that the Moclan keep these things a secret only from humans because of their historical background of persecution on the topic. Other species in the show (eventually) allude to human history, and the humans in the show have to explain how they've risen above it, so it would have worked for the Moclan world-building as well, as it relates to other specific cultures they encountered.
Instead, as it turns out, the Moclans are worse than historical humans with regard to persecution, if you can believe it.
Anyway, it is what it is. That opportunity has been lost and here's hoping that Moclan episodes get better.
Dave GET THE WORD OUT ON ALITA BATTLE ANGEL!
Ja'loja was a bit off for a season opener because it was meant to be the season one finale
I was fan. But it's rapidly turning into Intergalactic Love Boat.
Thats how exacly same as in every big work place - it is very realistic. Even between some The Orville's actors something happened, but in the different configuration ;)
Your gonna love the two parter
Episodes 4 and 5 feel VERY Star Trek TNG
I have massive problems with both of them. Everything from the plot to the minor details make no sense. So disappointing after the wonderful Alara episode.
Holding out for "Bigger and Better Things", huh? Just keep watching until you see "Identity" Parts 1 and 2. You will not be sorry.
The first 3 episodes, sucked because one ep (ep 2) was supposed to be aired in season 1. Then the other 2 eps had to be aired in that ordered due to the actress that played Alara leaving. It also explains why the first part of the season seemed weaker since it was already filmed and they had to use those eps. It's also the reason why S2 seems to be so much more Moclan obsessed since the extra episode that was held over from S1.
203 is probably my favorite of the series so far. And despite the somewhat lazy callback to the gender reassignment i thought 202 was quite good. That whole thing was frustrating. Nothing was resolved. "Hey, here's a topical thing." Then nothing.
It's scary how often our ideologies line up. Get outta my head!
It's no ST:D, but it's almost as if that show was meant to push the Overton Window off a cliff, so this one would appear tolerable.
That was a fair review, as far as I can tell.
How fucking awesome was the space battle
Did Orville S2 have a different writer/director? I've not liked the first few episodes.