America has become something I don’t recognize anymore as a democracy. If we continue down this road. I’m losing hope in people’s ability to discern truth from fiction and outright lies. We seem to following in Russias footsteps not Europes. And that is giving Putin and fascism so much oxygen it’s frightening.
The heck your talkin about? Are you ok? Fascists killed at least 20 mil people and how many killed Putin? America is a true terrorist state just the Iraq war has taken 1 mil Iraqies lives.
@robertroot3790 Nobody had a strategy in the Western world, the Brits following the US direction, the EU following an unelected president commissioner called Ursula VonderLeyen, NATO following the US lead. It amonts to brainless gaming that killed 1/2 a million Ukrainians, destroyed their country, caused 2 million refugees and left Ukraine without a young generation. And the cynics want even more money to be invested because they can't afford to lose face and admit reality. Keep listening to Vlad, it will serve you well.
@@guydreamr 25:27 "I treat experts as sacred." Unless they're John Mearsheimer, Douglas MacGregor, Scott Ritter, or any other expert who says things I don't like...
One very important factor to consider regarding the Russian Federation is alcoholism. Like, straight up alcoholism. No detour, no beating about the bush. ALCOHOLISM. Russians need to talk about that openly.
❤Thank you, both! I enjoyed your conversation & insights very much. I am listening to this 9 months after your talk which makes it even more interesting.
@stephie52 That immediately proves how absurd your thinking is. You want him to interview somebody who thinks like you. You do love your bubble where everybody thinks the same. Very comfortable giving you the feedback you expect. Why don't you have the courage to listen to somebody who does not think like you and then judge if you are right or wrong.?
Cold War barracks mentality in Russia never ended. That was clear to me back in the 1990s but we loved the collective high (and naive peace dividend) from believing so. Soviet legacy was never crushed and judged like the Third Reich. And since the Russians acquired nukes (unlike Nazi Germany) it was always impossible to dismantle the Soviet mindset. Strange how the end of the USSR and emergence of Russia has brought the world closer to nuclear disaster than ever before.
You are very correct. I spent time in Russia then, and the mentality is deeply rooted. Nothing in reality had changed. The exact same ship, with a new mafia captain
Indeed. The journeys Germany and Japan have made since 1945 are what one would like to see in Russia. There are (at least) two conditions that need to exist for this to be possible. 1. Defeat of the Russian state. 2. Disciplin and a sense of loyalty to the collective among the population. Even if Russia was to be totally defeated, I doubt the culture posesses the determination to adhere to a political vision of democracy and equal opportunities.
I made a few business trips to Russia in the late 90s and was rather alarmed at the inhumane nature of their society and their utterly absurd rewriting of the WW2.
@@Epaminondas371 Their "great patriotic war", starting by raping Finland and splitting up Poland between themselves and Nazi Germany. Only to see Hitler stab them in the back and launch a full scale invasion. The "Russians" of Ukraine being the ones to take the major hit, right after Stalin had his way with them in the 30's. Nice people the Russians, not! (Although, admittedly, Stalin was from Georgia.)
Sweet!! My two favorite content creators in a thoughtful exchange if ideas. Something I value in a video is leaving it with something to think about. This video was a banquet of food for thought. Thank you so much!
I really love the first 15 minutes so far!!! Really loved the critique and acknowledgement. Very grown up and very very refreshing. I am so proud of you both so much.
One of my notions is that social media has no sense of proportion. It appears to be a conversation but that's an illusion of virtual reality. There is none of the concrete reality of conversation, the body language, nuance of expression, smell or taste. It's a pitfall of our social being that we can be blind to the difference.
Have you ever read a book? Where is the "concrete reality" by which I assume you mean the senzorial aspect of conversation if you were reading this? You're asking for senzorial from an audio video environment? Were you high when you wrote this comment?
It’s quite remarkable actually when (if you have seen it) Twitter hawkish personalities end up having an in person debate on RUclips or by live stream - it’s almost like they exist in a different parallel universe because as you say the way that exchange goes is usually far far less aggressive, and far more charitable and productive.
@@larsvaahlmar1784I mean your comment/reply is sort of a good example of what he is talking about isn’t it - if we were in person in real life you probably wouldn’t talk like that to someone making a quite unobjectionable, general observation about social media , or question if they are intoxicated by drugs.
Yes everyone that has opinion of their own is on drugs. I agree though the guy is reading script and talking circles n saying nothing. IMO poutine is ded they just delaying their collapse
@@euromoneysOf course, you lack the intellectual rigour to comprehend the deep thoughts and advanced discourse displayed by Vlad. They’re leagues above you! SMH. 🤦🏼♂️
Afraid you are right, their culture does not allow them to not conquer. Any change is internal with external guidance and will take 3-4 generations to purge out the old and to just begin with the new. Wait or immediately decimate empires like Romans, Hannibal, Golden Hordes etc. but they just didn't change actively, the people who were in charge died off and new people effected change. Just ask history. The not so good empires were replaced and new bad start ups also faces the same thing, ask that guy Adolph.
I agree partly. Only force makes sense in a mind like that. Crimea must be retaken and defended. That will shake up the gameboard (so to say). It will balance the weight of concerns on both sides (east/west). When that balance is achieved maybe discussions can occure (balance of concerns may, in that context, be aquated with balance of power (like the cold war))
@americanidle76 And meantime what should be done with the Southern border. I know; you are one of those Americans who are more interested in Ukraine than in the USA.
It’s funny but until now, I completely forgot why I unsubscribed from Vlad’s channel and his lovely community. And it may be hard to put it in words, but first 13 minutes of conversation reminded me why …I don’t understand his prolonged thinking, his whole persona is indigestible to me. So all in all, I am listening to „silicon curtain” nearly every single day, but today I need to make an exception. Great channel, great guests ( mostly), thank you
It just occurred to me that Vlad's constant going on about how he fears democracy decline in the west actually is a russian propaganda talking point of sorts. He sneakily sows the distrust he fears. Maybe we should check up on his sponsors?
I would like to invite you to invest a little effort to get past Vlad's persona (which I fully understand can get on people's nerves) to his messages. They are an extremely important contribution. Like in this very case, where Jonathan's rightful anger at the Russian aggression led him to lose his cool and make divisive comments within the realm of democratic debate.
Fully agree. If I had a friend or colleague who waited until the tape started recording to dedicate 15 minutes for a drawn out critique of me for two tweets I made I would not be impressed. Strange individual. My respect for Jonathan went up a tonne though as he dealt with it very well and with humility.
Vlad walks his viewers through his process of thinking in a prolonged way because his aim as a political philosopher is to encourage people to deeply reflect on and improve their ways of thinking about a given situation, rather than his primary aim being to persuade us to adopt a certain opinion. He also has pretty severe ME which means he's often slower at articulating what he's trying to say than he otherwise would be. If you are able to adjust to the slower pace he has the most thought provoking content I've seen on RUclips by miles!
@@horrisnorris6478 To be honest I don't think he even talks at a slow pace, he just speaks normally, like a normal person would in a normal conversation at the dinner table, in a lecture or down the pub. I can only think perhaps that complaints stem merely from the fact that he *isn't* following that hyperactive, RUclips-y, never-stopping-to-take-a-breath-or-wonder-what-the-point-was style that seems overly prevalent on this and similar online platforms. (And yes, I'm fully aware that makes me sound like a moany old man. But it's also a real phenomenon!) It's like the number of people who I've seen online (in all sorts of different places and contexts, so it's not unique to any specific community) who say they play online videos at faster speed as a matter of course through the video settings: I don't understand it. I generally don't hold much truck with vague complaints of youngsters these days having short attention spans/not reading books anymore/playing too many video games/all of that sort of stuff. But the video speed impatience is a concrete thing, and it's genuinely baffling!
This is a magnificent, real conversation and exploration of the most foundational issues facing the world today. I would like to think about this more deeply and respond right now, but it is 2:00 am and my 76 y.o. Brain is exhausted, so I will return in the morning. On another note, all of my 5 or so favorite analysts of the Ukrainian crisis, and the world’s response, are becoming noticeably more sophisticated, knowledgeable and seasoned in their presentation of the issues, events, and policies they are engaged with daily. I will return to this tomorrow. But my thanks to both of you.
I find that Vlad's musings have become ever more vague and hazy since I had first begun following him back in early 2022. Personally, I would like the conversation to be more grounded, or at least as grounded as it was back then. Now, you get videos 15-20 minutes long conveying a message that could have easily been done in just a few and in a clearer fashion. I still value his takes, but trying to keep up with him has become increasingly more challenging for me over time.
Omg, I was just thinking the same and how to say it. Exactly the same thoughts and same time. How odd is that. I wish they could be more understandable and easier to follow.
Except when criticizing a public figure, who's personality exists, and is expressed, within the public realm. And in that vein, RUclips personalities, particularly those with subscriber bases and viewer bases in the 10's of thousands, hundred's of thousands and/or million's, certainly are public figures/public personalities, even if within only a certain bubble. And Vlad did that in the most well meant, and most polite, not to mention sincere and effective, manner imaginable. As well, it was delivered KNOWING the recipient would be receptive of, and acknowledge such criticism. As Johnathan was, and did.
Vlad is doing a great service to philosophy. And illuminating the places where we can go to look for the insights we need to begin formulating the questions we need to ask.
Thank you both for your integrity and sustained efforts! I hope we all think more about what we can further do to help Ukraine, its region and the international “order” in which such an extreme, agonizing war has happened.
Yup. The law has been broken for mates. Just listen to Elon Musk for a minute, look at his interests for a minute, and you can see what is really going on.
USA´s greed to bring it´s weapons near to Russia via new NATO members is the real root to this war. BTW, who wants to be helping to a country(Ukraine) which kept killing civilians(russian language speakers) since 2014 ? It is like someone would start helping to a person who started with killing people.......( Russia is helping to civilians in Donbas since those civilians were killed by thousands since 2014) What is the point in this video? It is empty talking only....
Certainly raising issues, I for one had not given thought to. Thank you for a such intelligent, balanced and reasoned discussion. I am even more convinced now, as I thought previously, that the stall in capability supplies to Ukraine, was a definite choice,to limit military exuberance and somewhat slow a sudden regime collapse
Fantastic interview. Thank you for sharing. This is the insight that more in the west, particularly our leaders, need to be hearing. Some of them lack any sense of realpolitik.
@@SiliconCurtain Still laughing over how Putin fcked himself with that comment about Poland allegedly starting WW2 by not being nice enough to Hitler. Set off alarm bells all over Europe, encouraged his US lackey to say he'd let Russia take NATO territories that don't pay their dues. They could not have done a better job of dipping themselves in sht.
That was great To be analysed by Vlad I learned alot I have watched you everyday since the start To me you were the outside world finally seeing Russia for it's horror
Excellent conversation. If corporate media has lost the trust of their market, can a self-directed, algorithmic choice of virtual channels provide the social trust required for developing a healthy social individual?
👀 ⭐️⭐️⭐️Gosh! Vlad Vexler - you are exceptionally good! You keep our common sense and sanity in the right balance and keep us on the right track in the muddled waters of information, misinformation and lots of propaganda! Bravo - please keep on going!
The opening of this dialogue was interesting & I’m glad you both can exchange constructive criticism & agreed with Vlad on the difficult information environment & we’re all trying to be as saintly as he…
Thank you Jonathan! Another great interview! This is my 1st. time hearing Vlad 's take on where things stand. I look forward to hearing more thoughts from him on this subject.
Vlad is an absolute gem of a human being❤
He’s also a little full of himself. Anyways, Jonathan keeps it interesting. Respect.
I like him even if I disagree on some of his positions. Iam convinced he is a great lad to have an intelligent discussion with
You two should get married in your ivory tower.
Friend of Vlad is a friend of mine glad to find another sane voice in the face of the horrors of war.
An example of a conversation I would love to be the standard of discourse everywhere.
Australia here/ Don't we all.
My 2 most favoured intellectuals. Thank you.
Is Jonathan an intellectual?
Just two very eloquent people engaged in a conversation.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΕΒΡΕΝΟΓΛΟΥ Yes he is! A very thoughtful, pragmatic and intelligent one!!👏👍
Yes! With Konstantin and Anna too!!
Vlad - great as always ❤ Thank you 🙂 🇵🇱♥️🇺🇦
I found your channel because of the first time you had Vlad Vexler as a guest! And I watch all your videos!
American citizen here, who the friendly staff of my district U.S. representative recognized my voice today, I call often. 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇱
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Keep calling friend
Sincere respect to You and our Vlad, dear Jonathan.
Thanks, two of my favourite people on one podcast! Any chance of getting Alexander Stubb since he has become president of Finland?
Great suggestion - I’ll try!
Most cordial exchange between two powerful information warriors!
Yes! Two of my favorites! Discussing the world’s most boring evil!
'Boring' is the new 'banal', you heard it here first!
@@RuneDrageon that already meant that! ordinary is banal is boring.
@@RuneDrageonBeing witty is not the new banal, just the same old...
@@pontusmalmstrom1055 It was a play on words with Hannah Arendts 'Banality of evil' in relation to the totalitarianism of the Nazis.
@@RuneDrageon Also the earlier feudal word was ''bannal'', a lord's mill, as in a ''bannal mill'', that was common to all for use.
America has become something I don’t recognize anymore as a democracy. If we continue down this road. I’m losing hope in people’s ability to discern truth from fiction and outright lies. We seem to following in Russias footsteps not Europes. And that is giving Putin and fascism so much oxygen it’s frightening.
The heck your talkin about? Are you ok? Fascists killed at least 20 mil people and how many killed Putin? America is a true terrorist state just the Iraq war has taken 1 mil Iraqies lives.
Jonathon--your point @ 15:20 about a lack of strategy--spot on!
@robertroot3790 Nobody had a strategy in the Western world, the Brits following the US direction, the EU following an unelected president commissioner called Ursula VonderLeyen, NATO following the US lead.
It amonts to brainless gaming that killed 1/2 a million Ukrainians, destroyed their country, caused 2 million refugees and left Ukraine without a young generation. And the cynics want even more money to be invested because they can't afford to lose face and admit reality. Keep listening to Vlad, it will serve you well.
Thank you, Jonathan and Vlad. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Vlad Vexler is definitely one of the wisest people online today.
He has the ability to make bs seem true
@@gmw3083 What "bs" exactly, and why? Or are you just trolling?
@guydreamr 17:28 so begins vlads impossible fantasy
@@guydreamr 25:27 "I treat experts as sacred." Unless they're John Mearsheimer, Douglas MacGregor, Scott Ritter, or any other expert who says things I don't like...
@@guydreamr I had a better timestamped quote from later in the video. It disappeared from the other thread. These two remained...
Best channel since i understand English !
Jonathan and Vlad, you’re awesome 👏🏼
Thanks to the both of you !
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Cool pic
Always a pleasure to hear you both in conversation.
Im subbed to all of Vlads channels, good man
Always glad to listen to Vladimir!
Excellent episode - Vlad is always a welcome voice of sanity.
This was a much better interview than the long rambling interview I watched with the ‘other Vlad’.
@treesetc3305 You most likely do not have the mental capacity needed to understand what the "other Vlad" said or meant.
Love it! Keep going strong mr Fink. We will prevail.
Coming in from Vlad Vexler’s audience, this was very interesting ❤
Vlad the thoughtful voice of reason thank you for your insight
I am so very happy I have found you two gentle men. Please keep going. And thank you.
Been waiting for this one. Vlad is a perfect guest speaker for the channel 👍
Thank you for your help
Merci Vlad et Jonathan excellent discours
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a very powerful conversation from both of you! How incredibly inciiteful
Thank you both for existing and allow us to witness your conversation !
Thank you for having Vlad back. He has taught me to think in 3d. Aussie Sue
One very important factor to consider regarding the Russian Federation is alcoholism.
Like, straight up alcoholism.
No detour, no beating about the bush. ALCOHOLISM.
Russians need to talk about that openly.
❤Thank you, both! I enjoyed your conversation & insights very much. I am listening to this 9 months after your talk which makes it even more interesting.
Two of my favourite human beings discussing the most important world problem,thanks fellers👍🇬🇧🇺🇦
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Thank you both.
Jonathan, have you ever interviewed Jake Broe? He is an ex-military US veteran and fully supports Ukraine.
Jonathan has interviewed Jake - and it was Excellent!
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He has! ❤
@stephie52 That immediately proves how absurd your thinking is. You want him to interview somebody who thinks like you. You do love your bubble where everybody thinks the same. Very comfortable giving you the feedback you expect. Why don't you have the courage to listen to somebody who does not think like you and then judge if you are right or wrong.?
Cold War barracks mentality in Russia never ended. That was clear to me back in the 1990s but we loved the collective high (and naive peace dividend) from believing so. Soviet legacy was never crushed and judged like the Third Reich. And since the Russians acquired nukes (unlike Nazi Germany) it was always impossible to dismantle the Soviet mindset. Strange how the end of the USSR and emergence of Russia has brought the world closer to nuclear disaster than ever before.
You are very correct.
I spent time in Russia then,
and the mentality is deeply rooted. Nothing in reality had
changed. The exact same ship,
with a new mafia captain
Expect for a thin sliver of the Intelligentsia, Russians have *never* stopped being serfs. They exchange a Czar for a Commissar
Indeed. The journeys Germany and Japan have made since 1945 are what one would like to see in Russia.
There are (at least) two conditions that need to exist for this to be possible.
1. Defeat of the Russian state.
2. Disciplin and a sense of loyalty to the collective among the population.
Even if Russia was to be totally defeated, I doubt the culture posesses the determination to adhere to a political vision of democracy and equal opportunities.
I made a few business trips to Russia in the late 90s and was rather alarmed at the inhumane nature of their society and their utterly absurd rewriting of the WW2.
@@Epaminondas371 Their "great patriotic war", starting by raping Finland and splitting up Poland between themselves and Nazi Germany. Only to see Hitler stab them in the back and launch a full scale invasion. The "Russians" of Ukraine being the ones to take the major hit, right after Stalin had his way with them in the 30's.
Nice people the Russians, not! (Although, admittedly, Stalin was from Georgia.)
Thank you from New Zealand for the intelligent depth of this conversation!
Vlad is awesome with his awesome insights about the mind and soul of Russian world!
Bravo!
Sweet!! My two favorite content creators in a thoughtful exchange if ideas. Something I value in a video is leaving it with something to think about. This video was a banquet of food for thought. Thank you so much!
Awesome! Thank you!
I watch you Jonathan 😊 Thank you for your guests and Vlad is another channel I watch.
oh! my two favorites ! Wonderful! Thank you.
I really love the first 15 minutes so far!!! Really loved the critique and acknowledgement. Very grown up and very very refreshing. I am so proud of you both so much.
Excellent discoure, one of your best podcasts ever
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One of my notions is that social media has no sense of proportion. It appears to be a conversation but that's an illusion of virtual reality. There is none of the concrete reality of conversation, the body language, nuance of expression, smell or taste.
It's a pitfall of our social being that we can be blind to the difference.
Have you ever read a book? Where is the "concrete reality" by which I assume you mean the senzorial aspect of conversation if you were reading this? You're asking for senzorial from an audio video environment? Were you high when you wrote this comment?
It’s quite remarkable actually when (if you have seen it) Twitter hawkish personalities end up having an in person debate on RUclips or by live stream - it’s almost like they exist in a different parallel universe because as you say the way that exchange goes is usually far far less aggressive, and far more charitable and productive.
@@larsvaahlmar1784I mean your comment/reply is sort of a good example of what he is talking about isn’t it - if we were in person in real life you probably wouldn’t talk like that to someone making a quite unobjectionable, general observation about social media , or question if they are intoxicated by drugs.
Yes everyone that has opinion of their own is on drugs. I agree though the guy is reading script and talking circles n saying nothing. IMO poutine is ded they just delaying their collapse
@@euromoneysOf course, you lack the intellectual rigour to comprehend the deep thoughts and advanced discourse displayed by Vlad. They’re leagues above you! SMH. 🤦🏼♂️
This is a comment because i love Vlad, love the content being promoted here, love the charities here. Thank you so much.
What a strong and comical opening from Vlad. Ballsy even. Contrasts so heavily with his relaxed tone. You both do fantastic work.
Lovely to see two of my favourite RUclipsrs together. Slava Ukrani 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦
We must stand up to him. No appeasement. He can only be stopped by force.
Didn't you hear Vlad? We have to change the _International Order_ first
Afraid you are right, their culture does not allow them to not conquer. Any change is internal with external guidance and will take 3-4 generations to purge out the old and to just begin with the new.
Wait or immediately decimate empires like Romans, Hannibal, Golden Hordes etc. but they just didn't change actively, the people who were in charge died off and new people effected change. Just ask history. The not so good empires were replaced and new bad start ups also faces the same thing, ask that guy Adolph.
I agree partly. Only force makes sense in a mind like that. Crimea must be retaken and defended. That will shake up the gameboard (so to say). It will balance the weight of concerns on both sides (east/west). When that balance is achieved maybe discussions can occure (balance of concerns may, in that context, be aquated with balance of power (like the cold war))
Вам плевать на мнение крымчан по этому поводу? @@stefanandersson9616
@americanidle76 And meantime what should be done with the Southern border. I know; you are one of those Americans who are more interested in Ukraine than in the USA.
"conflict can be a form of cooperation" is a great value
what a great conversation. Keep up the great work
Thanks guys ❤
Vlad is amazing. Thanks for this interview 🇺🇦🇬🇧
It’s funny but until now, I completely forgot why I unsubscribed from Vlad’s channel and his lovely community. And it may be hard to put it in words, but first 13 minutes of conversation reminded me why …I don’t understand his prolonged thinking, his whole persona is indigestible to me. So all in all, I am listening to „silicon curtain” nearly every single day, but today I need to make an exception. Great channel, great guests ( mostly), thank you
It just occurred to me that Vlad's constant going on about how he fears democracy decline in the west actually is a russian propaganda talking point of sorts. He sneakily sows the distrust he fears. Maybe we should check up on his sponsors?
I would like to invite you to invest a little effort to get past Vlad's persona (which I fully understand can get on people's nerves) to his messages.
They are an extremely important contribution. Like in this very case, where Jonathan's rightful anger at the Russian aggression led him to lose his cool and make divisive comments within the realm of democratic debate.
Fully agree. If I had a friend or colleague who waited until the tape started recording to dedicate 15 minutes for a drawn out critique of me for two tweets I made I would not be impressed. Strange individual. My respect for Jonathan went up a tonne though as he dealt with it very well and with humility.
Vlad walks his viewers through his process of thinking in a prolonged way because his aim as a political philosopher is to encourage people to deeply reflect on and improve their ways of thinking about a given situation, rather than his primary aim being to persuade us to adopt a certain opinion. He also has pretty severe ME which means he's often slower at articulating what he's trying to say than he otherwise would be. If you are able to adjust to the slower pace he has the most thought provoking content I've seen on RUclips by miles!
@@horrisnorris6478 To be honest I don't think he even talks at a slow pace, he just speaks normally, like a normal person would in a normal conversation at the dinner table, in a lecture or down the pub.
I can only think perhaps that complaints stem merely from the fact that he *isn't* following that hyperactive, RUclips-y, never-stopping-to-take-a-breath-or-wonder-what-the-point-was style that seems overly prevalent on this and similar online platforms. (And yes, I'm fully aware that makes me sound like a moany old man. But it's also a real phenomenon!)
It's like the number of people who I've seen online (in all sorts of different places and contexts, so it's not unique to any specific community) who say they play online videos at faster speed as a matter of course through the video settings: I don't understand it. I generally don't hold much truck with vague complaints of youngsters these days having short attention spans/not reading books anymore/playing too many video games/all of that sort of stuff. But the video speed impatience is a concrete thing, and it's genuinely baffling!
Very interesting discussions.
This is a magnificent, real conversation and exploration of the most foundational issues facing the world today. I would like to think about this more deeply and respond right now, but it is 2:00 am and my 76 y.o. Brain is exhausted, so I will return in the morning. On another note, all of my 5 or so favorite analysts of the Ukrainian crisis, and the world’s response, are becoming noticeably more sophisticated, knowledgeable and seasoned in their presentation of the issues, events, and policies they are engaged with daily. I will return to this tomorrow. But my thanks to both of you.
I find that Vlad's musings have become ever more vague and hazy since I had first begun following him back in early 2022. Personally, I would like the conversation to be more grounded, or at least as grounded as it was back then. Now, you get videos 15-20 minutes long conveying a message that could have easily been done in just a few and in a clearer fashion. I still value his takes, but trying to keep up with him has become increasingly more challenging for me over time.
Omg, I was just thinking the same and how to say it. Exactly the same thoughts and same time. How odd is that. I wish they could be more understandable and easier to follow.
It's based in philosophy not social science.
@@DJWESG1 Answering with riddles, so to speak.
Two great guys ...
Thank you✌🏻 🇬🇧
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HEROYAM SLAVA 🇺🇦🔱✌🏻
I always feel that personal criticism (even well meant and politely delivered) is best served in private.
Visceral conversation around trust and audience capture in our informational environment is not personal criticism. It is vital public discourse.
Except when criticizing a public figure, who's personality exists, and is expressed, within the public realm. And in that vein, RUclips personalities, particularly those with subscriber bases and viewer bases in the 10's of thousands, hundred's of thousands and/or million's, certainly are public figures/public personalities, even if within only a certain bubble. And Vlad did that in the most well meant, and most polite, not to mention sincere and effective, manner imaginable. As well, it was delivered KNOWING the recipient would be receptive of, and acknowledge such criticism. As Johnathan was, and did.
Both parties offered a masterclass of criticism, well served, and well received, publicly.
The balloons at 1.05 are hilarious 😂
YOU ARE WONDERFUL, brilliant and sweet. I want to send hugs to you both. So informative! Thx
Vlad is doing a great service to philosophy. And illuminating the places where we can go to look for the insights we need to begin formulating the questions we need to ask.
2 great humans
Hello Beautiful Communities! Great discussion you two. Many thanks
Always good to listen to you both. A civilized and respectful opening too! 🇸🇪💙💛🇺🇦
I love you both, thank you💙💛
Your both a credit to yourselves and to me you're both honest people, even if we occasionally show we are human.
Love Vlad. Thank you!
Great show love vlads stuff his latest video is awesome must watch !!
Thank you both for your integrity and sustained efforts! I hope we all think more about what we can further do to help Ukraine, its region and the international “order” in which such an extreme, agonizing war has happened.
rizzia never was punished on their crimes - external and internal. This is major cause of the war.
That includes their entire history of crimes.
@@MKSense1What crimes?
😂😂😂.who punished usa for iraq invasion?
What about -
Yup. The law has been broken for mates. Just listen to Elon Musk for a minute, look at his interests for a minute, and you can see what is really going on.
Watching you two individually makes my head work to keep up. Together my head is working overtime. I very much enjoy it.
USA´s greed to bring it´s weapons near to Russia via new NATO members is the real root to this war. BTW, who wants to be helping to a country(Ukraine) which kept killing civilians(russian language speakers) since 2014 ? It is like someone would start helping to a person who started with killing people.......( Russia is helping to civilians in Donbas since those civilians were killed by thousands since 2014) What is the point in this video? It is empty talking only....
This was a great discussion. Thank both of you.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW!!!!!
...Your interviews always are, but this was - for me - extremely timely.
Thank you.
how nice to see Vlad here again :) One of my two favorite channels intersecting.
Much appreciated both,keep on keeping on.. 🤍✨️🌻
Great insights from the both of you. Thanks for this from the Netherlands 👍🌈
Outstanding conversation - sober and well-informed. So crucial amidst all the hysterical noise. Thank you both.
This is was a very good conversation between two important voices in these dangerous times. Thank you!
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Certainly raising issues, I for one had not given thought to.
Thank you for a such intelligent, balanced and reasoned discussion.
I am even more convinced now, as I thought previously,
that the stall in capability supplies to Ukraine, was a definite choice,to limit military exuberance and somewhat slow a sudden regime collapse
Please keep up the work and additionally finding guests that illuminate the discussions.
Excellent all the way through. Intelligent discussion that made me think.
I love Vlad to death but a conversation with him can be best described by the Beatles song”All Around The Universe”
talking to philosophers can be like that
RESPECT,
WE LOVE VLAD, DANGER OF OVER INFLATION,.
YOU MAY SPEAK, I SHALL LISTEN.
GREAT SHOE, SOUTH PHILADELPHIA, OUT🔱⭐.
Jonathan is very humble, good and intelligent human being ❤
The theatricity of discourse. How great!How direct and honest.
Jonathan and Vlad, this made my day. Yesterday, the Senate finally passed the aid to Ukraine. That was a good day as well.
Fantastic interview. Thank you for sharing. This is the insight that more in the west, particularly our leaders, need to be hearing. Some of them lack any sense of realpolitik.
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@@SiliconCurtain Still laughing over how Putin fcked himself with that comment about Poland allegedly starting WW2 by not being nice enough to Hitler. Set off alarm bells all over Europe, encouraged his US lackey to say he'd let Russia take NATO territories that don't pay their dues. They could not have done a better job of dipping themselves in sht.
Seeing you on Silicon curtain AGAIN made me the happiest this week!
Very useful discussion. Thanks
That was great
To be analysed by Vlad
I learned alot
I have watched you everyday since the start
To me you were the outside world finally seeing Russia for it's horror
Thank you. you helped make this great mind accessible (sp?) to us with lesser brains.
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Excellent conversation. If corporate media has lost the trust of their market, can a self-directed, algorithmic choice of virtual channels provide the social trust required for developing a healthy social individual?
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👀 ⭐️⭐️⭐️Gosh! Vlad Vexler - you are exceptionally good! You keep our common sense and sanity in the right balance and keep us on the right track in the muddled waters of information, misinformation and lots of propaganda! Bravo - please keep on going!
The opening of this dialogue was interesting & I’m glad you both can exchange constructive criticism & agreed with Vlad on the difficult information environment & we’re all trying to be as saintly as he…
Thank you Jonathan! Another great interview! This is my 1st. time hearing Vlad 's take on where things stand. I look forward to hearing more thoughts from him on this subject.
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Well done Jonathan.
I always love these highly insightful and educational interviews. Thank you!