I've checked so many other videos which gave me so much information except for what I needed? Until I came across your video,, You told me everything I needed to know and you made it so plain and simple. THANK YOU,!! I didn't give them a👍🏽's up but you definitely deserve one..👍🏽✌🏾🎶
Thanks. That was SUPER important to me. It’s always been such a pain to get to the rear connections. I can easily climb inside and behind the equipment
I have just one SB16 and also have the Klipsch RJ8s and a couple of B&W 804s, I can’t imagine having a second SB16. The bass is so pure and precise, none of that booming. I will wait for a big sale and buy another one.
Milking Us....it would be different if you produced a video everyday. You are already listening to them and we are waiting as you milk us a drop at a time. Great info. You are the best. Keep em coming.
Haha....I would LOVE to make a video every day but I have a full-time job, a home business, and a family of 6 to balance with my RUclips Channel. Each video takes me around 5-6 hours to produce from start to finish. My goal is to produce 2 videos per week. Truthfully tonight was the first time I turned them on and I immediately received a text from my wife saying "Can you please turn that off....I'm trying to sleep". LOL Guess it will have to wait till tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
My Yamaha rxv673 has two sub outputs labeled 1 & 2. But the sub I wanna get (Klipsch r120sw) has a red and white left and right (with red being LFE) will this work?? Why do they put left and right if it could be only used with right? Will it sound the same? Thanks.
Hey. Youthman! Will just say, very often when the cables got arrows, the shielding is attached to only one connector to lead disortion away from, this time, a subwoofer. :). Same on pre-amp to power-amp... with arrows, the shielding will only be attached on the "preamp-connector / arrow into the cable". But its superfun to watch your enthusiasm and videos.. keep it coming! Love Klipsch and SVS :).
A. The direction arrows on that RCA cable are completely meaningless. It's just copper, the electrons cannot and will not be affected by the "direction". You can't "align" a copper wire anyway. The only cables where direction matters are long-length HDMI cables and the like, because they're NOT straight copper. They have an encoder/decoder chip inside the source plug which draws power from your source device. This chip allows long-length HDMI cables to work, as standard HDMI cabling can only go around 25 feet before signal degradation takes effect. If you plug those in backwards, the chip will not receive any power and the cable won't work. B. The LFE connector is just a visual aid. It has absolutely no signal implications. All major subs with stereo inputs will function identically to this one if you only attach a single "LFE" cable. The stereo inputs are summed internally (a sub is only one speaker after all, it's mono). The reason subs offer stereo inputs is that sometimes your source device may not have a dedicated subwoofer output. In order to ensure your sub isn't missing subwoofer frequencies from the left or right, you would have to attach both the left and right cables. Again, this is ONLY useful on the sub for sources that do NOT have a subwoofer output. 99% of the time you'll be using a receiver, which handles all the work of gathering the LFE signals from the channels you specify in the receiver settings, and outputs it pre-summed to mono for the sub. Some receivers also support dual subs in stereo, which means you'd have 1 output for each sub, left and right, although this is usually for tuning purposes, not for stereo field effects. The last thing you want to do is to start buying into the fake mumbo-jumbo of directionality and "flow" garbage that those $1000 cable manufacturers try to sell to everyone. Keep in mind the science of how electrons flow (from high voltage to ground/low voltage, regardless of cabling), and you'll be better off.
Matt, I'm with you. As I mentioned in another comment, I realize directional cables are highly debatable. The only directional cable I have ever seen be effected by not hooking it up according to the directional arrows was an Active HDMI Cable due to the reasons you described. I didn't get any signal unless it was connected in the direction shown on the cables. If figure there is no harm done and nothing lost by connecting cables using the direction arrows. I'm definitely not one to buy expensive cables. Most of my interconnects are Monoprice. Typically....copper is copper.
Not true because some cables have an open end on one side and the other side is connected and that is to bleed away noise and has to be plugged in in a certain direction.
You have a great friend to give you some expensive SVS cable interconnects! The build quality and tech for those cables is top notch. I can't wait to hear how the SVS subs sound.
I have 2 subs with same speakers size and same wattage but with different speaker box design each , one is a 4th order bandpass sub and the other is a simple front firing ported sub. Will this work fine in my system with no issues?
Hello sir, I’m confused as to what hz my receiver should be adjust on- I have 3 Klipsch subwoofer with the gain turn to 50% on all 3 subs and the crossover turn all the way to the max- do I adjust my receiver to 80hz or 120hz ?
Thanks! I really like the SVS Interconnects as well. Thought I would have some time to crank the SB-16 up today but we had a funeral and also my two daughters flag football games to go to. Just came into the theater room, turned on one demo and the wife texts me saying she’s trying to sleep so they will have to wait till tomorrow 😟
Nice demonstration, as u insert cable in LFE (Right) in 1st Sub, now in 2nd Sub same in LFE which side..?? Same Right or it will insert in Left side..?? Plz guide.
@@Youthman thanks for prompt response, I really appreciate. I am a movie man & using SVS dual PB1000 pro with Denon X3700H in my theater. I love bass but when I added the 2nd subwoofer I didn't get the results that I was expecting. It is surprising.
'Youth man' i really need your advice, I've just purchased an 8-inch (380) monitor Audio sub to go along with my original 10-in (mass 200) monitor Audio sub and after I switched the subwoofer on i started to hear a very high pitched electrical distortion sound and as if I'm suffering from tinnitus or something like that, is it possible I might have over killed my subwoofer sound considering my small room is only 12 by 13 ft. I'm not lazy or anything like that, but I haven't tried messing around with the frequency or anything like that because the problem I've got is that that high-pitched electricity sound ringing in your ears, it makes it hard to distinguish what's what.? I had both subs set at 80hz with 40%volume. Any advice on what I should or shouldn't do is most welcome especially from you youth man
Is there any difference in connecting the dual subs this way compared to using a y-splitter from one of the subs LFE ports? I currently have one wire running from my sub out to sub1 which has a y-splitter connected and then a wire coming out from sub1 LFE to sub2 LFE port. Not sure if thats wrong or not
Hi There, hope you well...hope you can help me out...my receiver has one pre-out, so if I hook up my svs to the Pre-out on the receiver..can I use the Left output from the svs to my second subwoofer and the Right output from the svs to the third subwoofer ? Thanks.
Hey youth man I have a question. My receiver has two inputs for subwoofers. Now if I want to add a 3rd one would I just connect from the line in to the out on one of the subwoofers? And the other one just connected directly to the receiver like sub 1 but with a single cable using lfe instead of a double male rca? I’m a little confused there
Questions I bought a 400 watt sub have it on low but I can feel on one side I want to buy other one but my recvier is only 500 wattt should I run dual subs
Also, forgot to mention: the line-level outputs do not use the subwoofer's amplifier. They would not be line-level if that was the case. Most subs directly connect the line-level inputs to the outputs (like a splitter cable, just internally). They could use a small pre-amp inside to boost the signal, but 99.9% of the time this is not done because it's simply not necessary (and extra amplification, even pre-amplification, can introduce unwanted noise).
Sub signals are an AC analog signal. How can a cable be directional and require a specific orientation? Also, no subwoofer RCA L/R inputs require bridging to work. You can plug in one side and be fine. The multiple inputs are there for people who are using subs to augment stereo speakers that have no sub outs in a form of bi-amp configuration. Bridging the inputs with a Y will actually lower the resistance seen by the preamp, add distortion to the signal and loss of total input power. Thats why they labeled right RCA LFE, so people don't think they need to bridge the inputs.
Joel, I'm with you. I realize directional cables are highly debatable. The only directional cable I have ever seen be effected by not hooking it up according to the directional arrows was an Active HDMI Cable. I didn't get any signal unless it was connected in the direction shown on the cables. If figure there is no harm done and nothing lost by connecting cables using the direction arrows.
That makes sense as a HDMI cable is a one way digital signal. They probably put diodes in the cable to prevent cross talk between the source and receiver.
Joel Doxtator There is also a possibility of semi-balanced RCA cable where the shielding has different connection on each end to avoid ground loops. I don't know if the SVS cables are such though.
I have (2) Klipsch R-12SW subs and my receiver is a Denon S970H with (2) Preouts subwoofer outputs. can i just use separate subwoofer cables connected directly to their sub LFE ports and back into the reciever to the pre-outs 1 and 2?? my reciever just says subwoofer is connected but doesnt list 2 subwoofers .. not sure if a firmware update but most vids i see with dual subs list 2 subs connected in the reicever ui.
Great video! Something i didnt understand.. I got the Denon-X4500H, which has 2 subwoofer outputs. If I'm using 2 subwoofers, why can't I plug each subwoofer to the respective slot 1 and 2? I'm planning to get dual Klipsch SPL 150s and they got L channel and R/LFE, but no outputs. Normally, you connect your 1st subwoofer like explained in this video, but what about the second one? AVR has 2 sub slots in it and even if I use the 2nd slot on the AVR, does the other end of the cable still go to R/LFE on 2nd subwoofer? or how does it exactly work? And my other question is about the phase. Should I use the same phase for both subwoofers, even if they are at opposite direction? (1x front wall, 1x back wall). Thank you!
Great questions. If you have two sub outs on the receiver, absolutely just connect one cable to each subwoofer and use the LFE connection on the rear of each sub.
You’re killing me putting your hands all over that piano gloss black!!! 😮 I use gloves or a microfiber cloth. Also, you could’ve just used some furniture sliders under the subs and wouldn’t have to take the feet off… Just a suggestion. 👍🏼
Don’t worry, I wiped them down after moving them 😀. I’ve never owned any Piano black finish so handling them is new to me. My furniture pads are for hardwood floor so they don’t work on carpet. Easier and cheaper to remove the feet than to run to Lowes to buy some.
Just wanted to ask, what do you think of using SVS subs, vs rel subs?? Because when I went to a Best Buy to listen to some subwoofers, when they played the rel’s I liked the sound a bit more, when compared with the SVS-10000’s I think, so I just wanted to see if anyone else, has experienced rel subs, with Klipsch speakers…
I have hooked up my two subs like this. But I do not have the LFE on any of the Stereo Inputs. I was always told that, the Right (Red) channel Is always the LFE channel, even If It's not marked that way Yours was. Also, If you have to Subs outs on Your amp. These are the Left and Right sub channels. Giving You better control of the Bass from a Stereo source. And It sounds better too. Thanks for the Info.
Hey Michael, how are you? This is an older video, but, I have a Denon receiver with 2 sub outputs. So, the diagram shows the single connection from the receiver to a l/r line in on the sub, and a l/r line out connection to the 2nd sub (repeated the same way for subs 3 and 4) so, does this connection make it 4 subs, or technically 2. Would this type of connection work using a Y adapter as well? I currently use a Y adapter to connect the additional sub. Does the line in/out make this a different type of 4 sub connection? You get what I’m saying?
Lots of ways you can connect multiple subs. If you have dual outputs on your AVR and two subs, use one output for each sub. If you want to connect 4 subs, you can use a Y splitter for each sub out on the AVR or go into one sub and out of that sub to the next.
@@Youthman Yeah, on one output, I used the Y adapter from the receiver, and on the other, I ran a sub cable to the back 2, and used the Y adapter from there! I just recently bought a pair of SVS PB 1000 Pro for my front stage and put the 12” Klipsch R12SW in the rear!
If you want to run 4 subs, but only have 2 subwoofer inputs, how can you do it if your subs do not have a line level output connection? And could you tell me if there are any receivers that have 4 subwoofer inputs so that it is much easier? Please let me know.
In the video you connect to the LFE but in your diagram you show using the red and white in and the red and white out go to the second speaker. Which is the correct way to hook up dual subwoofers? Can I just go to the LFE on the 1st subwoofer and then go to the red output of that subwoofer to the LFE of the second speaker? I'm building a theater room and trying to set up the wiring before I put up drywall so I needed to know what RC cables I would need.
@@Youthman Thanks that video was very helpful. I have a polk audio 12in 660wi Dsw pro subwoofer with a Denon 11.2 reciever. I only going to use 1 subwoofer for now but I wanted to layout cables in wall for future expansion and I wanted to make sure I laid the right cables in. Thanks again.
If you have 2 Sub outputs on the back of your AVR and are only setting up 2 Subs in the room should you still hook up where the other subs is coming out of the back of the first sub or just use the output on the back of the AVR one in each output?
How do I connect dual Cerwin Vegas subs to my onkyo receiver r with only one rca sub connect on my receiver , when the subs only have one pair of RCA in puts and one LFE RCA line In ?? can you help me with this ??
Ok, I was right with you until you unplugged two subwoofers from the receiver and then plugged the two SVS subs in. What happens to the two subs that were connected? Are you going to connect them to the output of the two SVS's like you explained? Actually my real question is regarding my Onkyo tx nr 545. On the back of the receiver I have one sub output and one preout. Can I connect a second sub to the preout? My subs don't have outputs like the SVS subs. Thanks!
If your receiver only has one subwoofer out, just use a Y splitter to separate the signal and use one sub cable to one subwoofer and the other cable to the other subwoofer
@@Youthman Ok I got ya. But what is the "preout" used for? Some information I see use the words sub, pre-out, and LFE interchangeably. The connection is directly under the sub output.
@@appstate1996 What model is your receiver? The sub-out is a preout for your sub. Typically you might have a Pre-out for other channels as well (Left, Right, Center etc).
So everything I've seen about multi-sub setup has recommended placement of the subs on opposite ends of the room...generally one in the front center and one in the rear center. I see you keep yours near the front speakers. The 'experts' claimed this just behaves like having one bigger sub and doesn't give the benefits of better fill for the room. Have you played with the other configurations?
My room is limited on sub placement. Having dual subs up front fixed a nasty bull between 40Hz - 50Hz. Take a look at this video ruclips.net/video/eXfH9WH8Yw8/видео.html
youthman god dahm you haha.. i have these sub cables, and i had them the wrong way.. you made me feel like a fool hahahha;-) thx for another great video
I have a dedicated 20 amp circuit that is powering the following: Onkyo TX-NR 5008 Receiver, Parasound A52+ (180 x 5) Amp, (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra Subs, AppleTV and Playstation4. Typically I run (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs and I've yet to trip a breaker.
Youth Man, very informative and look forward to your reviews. One question: I have one output from my receiver and one LFE on sub with no output, and I want to connect multiple subs, do you recommend that I split the output from my receiver?
I have not done any direct A/B between the RF-7 III and LaScalas but I have done direct A/B between my previous RF-83 (which is in the same Reference tier as RF-7 III) and the RF-83 were no comparison in detail and midrange. The LaScalas do not have the "slam" that the RF-83 had but the bass they do produce is incredibly low distortion due to the folded horn. If I decide to keep the RF-7 III, they will go in the living room 2ch setup and I'll give my RF-7 II to my son to match his RC-64 II and replace his original RF-7's. Thanks for watching!
Youthman Oh I thought you let the subwoofers handle all the bass. I always wondered why more folks don't do that as well, but I guess it gives you the option of buying lowered priced speakers.
so it's good idea to remove the feet from subwoofers when they're foward facing speakers? I'll try that on my Klipsch R-100SW sub.. which is forward facing.. I do have a couple of KEF 1000 downfiring subs.. although only one works.. so if I were to connect a subwoofer cable from the R-100SW to the KEF sub that would work?
The only reason why I remove the feet is because I typically am moving subwoofers around my room. Sometimes I’m comparing to subwoofers and it makes it easy for me to slide them around on my carpet if the feet are not intact. For most people, there’s no reason to remove the feet. I just have a unique situation with reviewing subwoofers
I dont have "line out" on my Klipsch sp1 towers. Only lfe in and the lfe out on one sp1 is used to go into the other sp1. And I have a klipsch rw12d and a pioneer elite sc-07. With only 1 sub out but has a sub out for a multi channel operation. How can I use both sp1s and my rw12d on my pioneer elite sc-07. I'm also using klf 30s for my main fronts.
Hey Youthman - I am curious about the Klipsch sub's ports with reference to being behind an AT screen. Are they side or rear ported? Do you experience any screen movement from the drivers? You mentioned that the PB 16's would not be appropriate because of your AT. I have two Paradigm Monitor 12 subs. These are sealed subs like the SB16's. I thought my next sub(s) would be the PB 16 Ultras but I'm concerned about screen movement as they would likely be approx 2" from the screen. It sounds like the SB 16's are a "fair" compromise from the PB's and would still likely be a significant upgrade from my current Paradigms. It's not that I'm completely disappointed with them but I feel they lack a little in room shaking movie scenes.
Hi Kevin, I get that question often so I made a video about it - ruclips.net/video/VtLw9a1ey6s/видео.html. Short answer is no, the (4) RSW-15's do not move my screen...at least I cannot notice it with my eyes. I have watched many youtube videos of guys blowing hats and even balls across the room with the ports from the PB-16 so that's what I'm basing my assumption from. I'm not sure what changes it makes if you seal off some or all of the ports on the PB-16 and if that would be enough to not move your screen. I just finished shooting another video on controlling the SB-16 and will be uploading it tomorrow. Then the next videos will be how do they perform and some actual demos.
I'm not familiar with your subs but just looking at specs, I would say the SB-16 would be a HUGE upgrade for the following reasons. 1) Weight: 122lbs vs 41lbs. Weight is often attributed to size of box (typically larger equals more output), weight of magnet, better bracing etc. 2) Amplifier: 1500 watts RMS vs 300 watts RMS, 3) App controlable 4) Larger Driver: 16" vs 12". A 16" woofer will move a LOT more air and will pressurize a room much more easily than a 12" will. Once I upgraded to my first 15" sub, I have never gone back. I should have a good idea within the next few days how well the SB-16's perform. Stay tuned!
Any downside to using a Y Splitter at the reciever? I have one wireless sub and one wired sub so it's not exactly easy to wire them to each other based on their room location.
thats an Insane system you have there! dual svs? whoa! beautifully designed system, though that receiver in that slideout , id be concerned abt heat ...maybe you have a fan circulating air back there.
How did you get rid of the rubber marks on your carpet? lol. Some speakers did the same to mine and nothing works! 😞 lol I know what a random question to ask
Just a heads up to save you some $$$. I have a pair of SVS SB 4000's which are basically the same subs with 13.5" drivers. They are excellent and I'm sure the SB 16's are as well. HOWEVER, these sealed subs really shine with music. If looking to simply shake your room when watching movies and to make explosions and such extremely intense, this can be achieved with much cheaper subs and spending $4,000 isn't required. Only do so if needing excellent music performance. In fact, if you're a lunatic that craves insane foundation shaking bass for some ungodly reason, look into their ported subs. All the children with peanut butter stains on their Xbox and Playstation consoles seem to crave those.
Thanks Steve. I've always been a fan of 15" drivers for my subs. I have not heard the SB4000 yet. If the Dual SB-16 Ultra perform as well as my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs, they would be an upgrade due to the beautiful piano black finish, app control-ability and the metal grills. Not to mention having new subs vs 15 year old subs....my amps could give out at any moment due to their age. As for ported, I'm pretty sure ported subs would be a bad idea behind my 150" AT Screen as they would "blow" the screen. I am curious to see if the SB-16 will cause the screen to move.
Yes, ported wouldn't work for you with those screens in front. Their big ported subs throw a ton of air. These SVS sealed subs are very good, you'll likely buy them especially with the discount they'll provide.. It's just that most people really don't know or care what good bass is when they hear it. If its loud, boomy and shakes the room, its all good and cheapo subs fit the bill for them. The problem with cheap subs is all the bass when playing "music" sounds similar. Its just boom, boom, boom and there's virtually no difference in a bass player for example striking an E or A string on their bass guitar. Its all muddled together with almost no definition. Best of luck to you.
The (4) Klipsch RSW-15’d that I have now are known for being musical. I rarely listen to music in the theater room but there is music throughout every movie so having a sub that is powerful for movies, yet refined for music is important to me.
Hey youthman! Just finally got duals. I have 2 sub outputs on my receiver, so therefore I can just run each sub cable to each of the subwoofers lfe right? Correct? I did this and it worked... Just want to make sure it's correct.
It seems as if the subs only pick up the lows now. Before when I only had one sub, I heard more mid and high range bass from it. Now with duals the lows are powerful and everything else is virtually gone.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to midrange (as in vocals). Mid bass is fine. But again, your crossover setting will determine what frequencies your subs will play
@@billcozad7295 sounds like a frequency is being canceled. .I suggest if your receiver has auto calibration , to use it .. if not try switching the phase on the subs. set all other speakers to small with 80 hz crossover too
thanks Richard. I am reviewing the Klipsch RF-7 III, RC-64 III and the Dual SVS SB-16 Ultras. currently I’m seeing how they perform for movies. If I decide to buy them, I will move the RF-7 III to the 2ch living room setup, give my RF-7 II to my son for his bedroom to go with his RC-64 II and will sell his RF-7’s. Then I’ll sell my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs to help pay for the Dual SVS SB-16 Ultras
Sir actually there is a subsonic filter (High pass filter) behind my subwoofer.. I want to know the frequency level that I need to connect with my av receiver..
it took me a minute to realize the graphic of sub at 510 shows a different rca config. then the one u turned around earlier . i was saying what just happened? thanks for the vid !
with my experience doing a cascade between sub 1 to the sub 2, with line out to line in between then, instead of bring the original source. is like doing a mirror delay between the sub 1 and sub 2, is not the same as you split the signal with Y adapter, and connect both unit from the single source. that happen to me once when i do use the cascade between two KLIPSCH RT12D. i don't know if this is the case with SVS. but also klipsch explain it on the RT12D manual.
Awesome stuff Youthman. The SB are awesome - but being sealed (even as awesome as they are) you will probably be better served "replacing" your 4x RSW-15 with a pair of the PB-16 Ultra. They will energize the room much more than 2x SB.
Kongen, I don’t think putting the equivalent of a leaf blower behind my 150” Screen would be a good idea. The PB-16 would cause the screen to wave so in my situation, the SB-16 would be the better solution
Hi Bro nice video .. im waiting to hear them.. Bro i Need your help.. I Am Also Using Onkyo 5008 , My HDMi bord has gone .. I need to Replace the HDMi Board But i am NOT Able to seevice it in india because i Bought my Receiver in USA... Can You Please Help , Tell Me where i can get the HDMI board ?? Please
Sorry to hear about your board Paul. I would try reaching out to Onkyo to see if they can offer any assistance. I'm not sure where you could get a new board from.
When I adjust the volume on she subs evenly between the two they almost cancel each other out and I get no bass. Then when I turn the volume down on one the bass goes up on the other. Can someone help plz??
Hello great video there! I wonder how I can connect two receivers that have 5.1, so the surround sound won't be messed up ...? Any suggestions? They have RCA and Optic inputs
I have not tried using a 2nd receiver just for power but I have heard of guys doing it. I believe you will need to use the preouts of the first receiver to go into the second if it has multi-channel inputs.
one pre-out to multiple subs. I didn't know that's doable. one question thou, which is better?: 1. one pre-out to multiple subs 2. two pre-outs to multiple subs appreciate for your feedback. thanks
Neither method has any sonic benefit. It’s a matter of preference. If you have two sub preouts, my preference would be to use one sub preout for each of the two subs. If you only had one sub preout, you could use the line out on one sub to connect to the second sub or you could use a Y splitter like I showed in the video to split the signal to each sub. Again, no sonic difference. Just a matter of preference.
Most high end receivers with two sub outputs allow you to individually tune each subwoofer. This is extremely useful for subs that do not have their own EQ settings, as you'll want to use the receiver's EQ to remove any deadzones from each sub. Since each sub is in its own location, they will have their own deadzones, and need their own EQ.
Another great video my friend, I'm learning a lot with you, especially to be organized with the connections in my home teather 😊. This Svs subwoofer has complete freedom of connections.👍
My apologies. I forgot one of the qualifications of a HiFi expert was the need to have fancy frufru cables. You would probably like the cables in this video - ruclips.net/video/ary7DYmaYk0/видео.html. Don't forget to buy some of those cable risers to go with them or the sound will not be able to transport you into the 5th dimension. Be blessed.
I just looked up this vid. I fed one 12m cable through conduit and realized I needed a 15m for the other sub. I'm waiting for the 15m to get here and u guessed it!!!!!!! the 12m is backwards 🤣🤣🤣🤣. if I would have ordered both correctly I would have closed up the ceiling. what luck...
I wish I could help Paul. You would need to contact Onkyo to help you with that. They used to have a replacement plan because they had so many issues with HDMI boards failing but my understanding is the deadline for that has passed. I'm wanting to upgrade my 5008 to Atmos.
Bro, hdmi boards going out, not only on onkyos but on yamahas and other brands is so common...Its an absolute shame this area of the receivers wasnt designed to be troublefree and bulletproof cuz its happenned on my receivers as well, a high end yamaha that needs the board and i have no video from my hdmi out...i just keep an eye on ebay, but its hit and miss..you could buy a new board but mine is 400.00..good luck
I typically have to move the subwoofers around quite a bit due to the amount of speaker systems that I review at the same time. Removing the feed is the easiest thing for my workflow
No because the passive speaker gets power from a receiver while an active sub gets the signal from a receiver and powers the sub itself. You could come out of your sub out on the receiver, into the active sub, then out of the active sub into an amplifier and then out of the amplifier via speaker wire to your passive sub.
@@Youthman I bought a pre build home theatre of Sony. But my rear speakers are wireless so If I buy a subwoofer so is any way to connect it wirelessly.
If you are wanting to connect your sub wirelessly, you will likely need to buy a wireless sub adapter. Maybe something like this - www.svsound.com/products/soundpath-wireless-audio-adapter
I've checked so many other videos which gave me so much information except for what I needed? Until I came across your video,, You told me everything I needed to know and you made it so plain and simple. THANK YOU,!! I didn't give them a👍🏽's up but you definitely deserve one..👍🏽✌🏾🎶
Thank you Empire. Glad you found my video helpful.
You showed me exactly what I was trying too do all along.Thanks for the time that you took so I can breathe a little sign of relief.Great Job
Just love how organized and easy it is to get to the back of your equipment. It's awsome
Thanks. That was SUPER important to me. It’s always been such a pain to get to the rear connections. I can easily climb inside and behind the equipment
I have just one SB16 and also have the Klipsch RJ8s and a couple of B&W 804s, I can’t imagine having a second SB16. The bass is so pure and precise, none of that booming. I will wait for a big sale and buy another one.
Milking Us....it would be different if you produced a video everyday. You are already listening to them and we are waiting as you milk us a drop at a time. Great info. You are the best. Keep em coming.
Haha....I would LOVE to make a video every day but I have a full-time job, a home business, and a family of 6 to balance with my RUclips Channel. Each video takes me around 5-6 hours to produce from start to finish. My goal is to produce 2 videos per week. Truthfully tonight was the first time I turned them on and I immediately received a text from my wife saying "Can you please turn that off....I'm trying to sleep". LOL Guess it will have to wait till tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
My Yamaha rxv673 has two sub outputs labeled 1 & 2. But the sub I wanna get (Klipsch r120sw) has a red and white left and right (with red being LFE) will this work?? Why do they put left and right if it could be only used with right? Will it sound the same? Thanks.
Hey. Youthman! Will just say, very often when the cables got arrows, the shielding is attached to only one connector to lead disortion away from, this time, a subwoofer. :). Same on pre-amp to power-amp... with arrows, the shielding will only be attached on the "preamp-connector / arrow into the cable". But its superfun to watch your enthusiasm and videos.. keep it coming! Love Klipsch and SVS :).
Thanks Robert!
A. The direction arrows on that RCA cable are completely meaningless. It's just copper, the electrons cannot and will not be affected by the "direction". You can't "align" a copper wire anyway.
The only cables where direction matters are long-length HDMI cables and the like, because they're NOT straight copper. They have an encoder/decoder chip inside the source plug which draws power from your source device. This chip allows long-length HDMI cables to work, as standard HDMI cabling can only go around 25 feet before signal degradation takes effect. If you plug those in backwards, the chip will not receive any power and the cable won't work.
B. The LFE connector is just a visual aid. It has absolutely no signal implications. All major subs with stereo inputs will function identically to this one if you only attach a single "LFE" cable. The stereo inputs are summed internally (a sub is only one speaker after all, it's mono). The reason subs offer stereo inputs is that sometimes your source device may not have a dedicated subwoofer output. In order to ensure your sub isn't missing subwoofer frequencies from the left or right, you would have to attach both the left and right cables. Again, this is ONLY useful on the sub for sources that do NOT have a subwoofer output. 99% of the time you'll be using a receiver, which handles all the work of gathering the LFE signals from the channels you specify in the receiver settings, and outputs it pre-summed to mono for the sub. Some receivers also support dual subs in stereo, which means you'd have 1 output for each sub, left and right, although this is usually for tuning purposes, not for stereo field effects.
The last thing you want to do is to start buying into the fake mumbo-jumbo of directionality and "flow" garbage that those $1000 cable manufacturers try to sell to everyone. Keep in mind the science of how electrons flow (from high voltage to ground/low voltage, regardless of cabling), and you'll be better off.
Matt, I'm with you. As I mentioned in another comment, I realize directional cables are highly debatable. The only directional cable I have ever seen be effected by not hooking it up according to the directional arrows was an Active HDMI Cable due to the reasons you described. I didn't get any signal unless it was connected in the direction shown on the cables. If figure there is no harm done and nothing lost by connecting cables using the direction arrows. I'm definitely not one to buy expensive cables. Most of my interconnects are Monoprice. Typically....copper is copper.
Thank goodness i found this comment at the top. "DIRECTIONAL SIGNAL" LOL
Correct sir. Directional arrows on a rca cable are pointless.
Absolutely! Good job Markle!
Not true because some cables have an open end on one side and the other side is connected and that is to bleed away noise and has to be plugged in in a certain direction.
Glad you confirmed that I can connect my 2 powered subwoofers with the same connections in series.
Nice clean setup! Any delay issues in using the sub outs vs a y-splitter? Thanks!
You have a great friend to give you some expensive SVS cable interconnects! The build quality and tech for those cables is top notch. I can't wait to hear how the SVS subs sound.
I agree. Nelson is a super nice friend and was very generous to give me the cables as a gift when he came over to demo my systems
I have 2 subs with same speakers size and same wattage but with different speaker box design each , one is a 4th order bandpass sub and the other is a simple front firing ported sub. Will this work fine in my system with no issues?
Hello sir, I’m confused as to what hz my receiver should be adjust on- I have 3 Klipsch subwoofer with the gain turn to 50% on all 3 subs and the crossover turn all the way to the max- do I adjust my receiver to 80hz or 120hz ?
Good to see you man! That speaker/subwoofer setup is crazy good! Thanks for another great, and fun video! I love those subwoofer interconnects!
Thanks! I really like the SVS Interconnects as well. Thought I would have some time to crank the SB-16 up today but we had a funeral and also my two daughters flag football games to go to. Just came into the theater room, turned on one demo and the wife texts me saying she’s trying to sleep so they will have to wait till tomorrow 😟
Is the receiver sending out a similar signal for both sub ports and you are just using it to add multiple subs?
Hello. I need a question?
What if my PYLE reciever has a "SUB OUT" what does that do, or what sub should I use and how to connect it?
Directional RCA cables??? Give me a break. 😅
Yes... I was like wtf is this BS... unreal
I guess the signal would be impeded by try to go the wrong way, and could possibly result in degraded audio quality
😂😂😂😂😂
Directional cables. Not true.
Yes there are directional cables, like HDMI cables, do it the wrong way, and the component it is connected to, won’t work!
Nice demonstration, as u insert cable in LFE (Right) in 1st Sub, now in 2nd Sub same in LFE which side..?? Same Right or it will insert in Left side..??
Plz guide.
Right RCA connection is typically what you will use
@@Youthman thanks for prompt response, I really appreciate.
I am a movie man & using SVS dual PB1000 pro with Denon X3700H in my theater. I love bass but when I added the 2nd subwoofer I didn't get the results that I was expecting.
It is surprising.
'Youth man' i really need your advice, I've just purchased an 8-inch (380) monitor Audio sub to go along with my original 10-in (mass 200) monitor Audio sub and after I switched the subwoofer on i started to hear a very high pitched electrical distortion sound and as if I'm suffering from tinnitus or something like that, is it possible I might have over killed my subwoofer sound considering my small room is only 12 by 13 ft. I'm not lazy or anything like that, but I haven't tried messing around with the frequency or anything like that because the problem I've got is that that high-pitched electricity sound ringing in your ears, it makes it hard to distinguish what's what.? I had both subs set at 80hz with 40%volume. Any advice on what I should or shouldn't do is most welcome especially from you youth man
I would contact the manufacturer. No sub is supposed to sound like that
Is there any difference in connecting the dual subs this way compared to using a y-splitter from one of the subs LFE ports? I currently have one wire running from my sub out to sub1 which has a y-splitter connected and then a wire coming out from sub1 LFE to sub2 LFE port. Not sure if thats wrong or not
Hi There, hope you well...hope you can help me out...my receiver has one pre-out, so if I hook up my svs to the Pre-out on the receiver..can I use the Left output from the svs to my second subwoofer and the Right output from the svs to the third subwoofer ? Thanks.
Thanks for the video, it’s a good refresher to make sure I have everything hooked up right.
Thank you kindly
Hey youth man I have a question. My receiver has two inputs for subwoofers. Now if I want to add a 3rd one would I just connect from the line in to the out on one of the subwoofers? And the other one just connected directly to the receiver like sub 1 but with a single cable using lfe instead of a double male rca? I’m a little confused there
Questions I bought a 400 watt sub have it on low but I can feel on one side I want to buy other one but my recvier is only 500 wattt should I run dual subs
Also, forgot to mention: the line-level outputs do not use the subwoofer's amplifier. They would not be line-level if that was the case. Most subs directly connect the line-level inputs to the outputs (like a splitter cable, just internally). They could use a small pre-amp inside to boost the signal, but 99.9% of the time this is not done because it's simply not necessary (and extra amplification, even pre-amplification, can introduce unwanted noise).
great setup and great video. one question tho. is it possible to use one of those rca splitter and plug 2 subwoofer into 1 output on the receiver?
Absolutely. Here is another video I made on the subject - ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
@@Youthman cheers Michael! I've watched it and i've subscribed! thanks!
Glad you found the videos helpful
Fantastic Video Description 👏👍🤙Thanks so much for your description help me to know my mistake about my wrong connection on multi sub ...Great vid😃❗
Thanks glad the video was helpful
@@Youthman many thanks to you for the great vid where the description is perfect for connection on multi sub👏👏👏👍
Sub signals are an AC analog signal. How can a cable be directional and require a specific orientation? Also, no subwoofer RCA L/R inputs require bridging to work. You can plug in one side and be fine. The multiple inputs are there for people who are using subs to augment stereo speakers that have no sub outs in a form of bi-amp configuration. Bridging the inputs with a Y will actually lower the resistance seen by the preamp, add distortion to the signal and loss of total input power. Thats why they labeled right RCA LFE, so people don't think they need to bridge the inputs.
Joel, I'm with you. I realize directional cables are highly debatable. The only directional cable I have ever seen be effected by not hooking it up according to the directional arrows was an Active HDMI Cable. I didn't get any signal unless it was connected in the direction shown on the cables. If figure there is no harm done and nothing lost by connecting cables using the direction arrows.
That makes sense as a HDMI cable is a one way digital signal. They probably put diodes in the cable to prevent cross talk between the source and receiver.
My understanding is there is a chip in active cables that causes them to only work one direction
Yep, any digital chip will act as a diode.
Joel Doxtator There is also a possibility of semi-balanced RCA cable where the shielding has different connection on each end to avoid ground loops. I don't know if the SVS cables are such though.
I have (2) Klipsch R-12SW subs and my receiver is a Denon S970H with (2) Preouts subwoofer outputs. can i just use separate subwoofer cables connected directly to their sub LFE ports and back into the reciever to the pre-outs 1 and 2?? my reciever just says subwoofer is connected but doesnt list 2 subwoofers .. not sure if a firmware update but most vids i see with dual subs list 2 subs connected in the reicever ui.
question should i use the Y Adapter splitter cable with 1 RCA Male to 2 to play movies and music i see that you tube dont support lfe
Learnt something new about linking the subs. Didn’t realise that. Cheers YM!
Glad to help. I learn something new every day. Thanks for watching!
me too
Great video! Something i didnt understand.. I got the Denon-X4500H, which has 2 subwoofer outputs. If I'm using 2 subwoofers, why can't I plug each subwoofer to the respective slot 1 and 2? I'm planning to get dual Klipsch SPL 150s and they got L channel and R/LFE, but no outputs. Normally, you connect your 1st subwoofer like explained in this video, but what about the second one? AVR has 2 sub slots in it and even if I use the 2nd slot on the AVR, does the other end of the cable still go to R/LFE on 2nd subwoofer? or how does it exactly work?
And my other question is about the phase. Should I use the same phase for both subwoofers, even if they are at opposite direction? (1x front wall, 1x back wall). Thank you!
Great questions. If you have two sub outs on the receiver, absolutely just connect one cable to each subwoofer and use the LFE connection on the rear of each sub.
It’s best to use REW and a calibrated microphone or a MiniDSP to measure and determine what is the best setting for phase.
@@Youthman Thank you very much, Youthman. I remember watching a video of yours regarding subwoofer phase, using REW. I'll make sure I watch it again!
You’re killing me putting your hands all over that piano gloss black!!! 😮 I use gloves or a microfiber cloth. Also, you could’ve just used some furniture sliders under the subs and wouldn’t have to take the feet off… Just a suggestion. 👍🏼
Don’t worry, I wiped them down after moving them 😀. I’ve never owned any Piano black finish so handling them is new to me. My furniture pads are for hardwood floor so they don’t work on carpet. Easier and cheaper to remove the feet than to run to Lowes to buy some.
If I end up buying the SVS subs, I'll buy me a pair of white gloves. :)
Just wanted to ask, what do you think of using SVS subs, vs rel subs?? Because when I went to a Best Buy to listen to some subwoofers, when they played the rel’s I liked the sound a bit more, when compared with the SVS-10000’s I think, so I just wanted to see if anyone else, has experienced rel subs, with Klipsch speakers…
Youthman in your honest opinion pb16 or hsu VTF-15H Mk2 which do you think are better subs ! Thx brother 🙏
I would only be guessing as I have never heard a HSU sub.
@@Youthman got you.. thought maybe you reviewed them. Thx anyway
Can I connect one subwoofer to a 7.2 AV receiver, by connecting all the two subwoofer outputs on the avr to the left and right input on the subwoofer.
I have hooked up my two subs like this. But I do not have the LFE on any of the Stereo Inputs. I was always told that, the Right (Red) channel Is always the LFE channel, even If It's not marked that way Yours was. Also, If you have to Subs outs on Your amp. These are the Left and Right sub channels. Giving You better control of the Bass from a Stereo source. And It sounds better too. Thanks for the Info.
Hey Michael, how are you? This is an older video, but, I have a Denon receiver with 2 sub outputs. So, the diagram shows the single connection from the receiver to a l/r line in on the sub, and a l/r line out connection to the 2nd sub (repeated the same way for subs 3 and 4) so, does this connection make it 4 subs, or technically 2. Would this type of connection work using a Y adapter as well? I currently use a Y adapter to connect the additional sub. Does the line in/out make this a different type of 4 sub connection? You get what I’m saying?
Lots of ways you can connect multiple subs. If you have dual outputs on your AVR and two subs, use one output for each sub. If you want to connect 4 subs, you can use a Y splitter for each sub out on the AVR or go into one sub and out of that sub to the next.
@@Youthman Yeah, on one output, I used the Y adapter from the receiver, and on the other, I ran a sub cable to the back 2, and used the Y adapter from there! I just recently bought a pair of SVS PB 1000 Pro for my front stage and put the 12” Klipsch R12SW in the rear!
If you want to run 4 subs, but only have 2 subwoofer inputs, how can you do it if your subs do not have a line level output connection? And could you tell me if there are any receivers that have 4 subwoofer inputs so that it is much easier? Please let me know.
Thank you very much for uploading this video.
In the video you connect to the LFE but in your diagram you show using the red and white in and the red and white out go to the second speaker. Which is the correct way to hook up dual subwoofers?
Can I just go to the LFE on the 1st subwoofer and then go to the red output of that subwoofer to the LFE of the second speaker? I'm building a theater room and trying to set up the wiring before I put up drywall so I needed to know what RC cables I would need.
Here is a newer video on how to connect multiple subwoofers - ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
Either way you will tuna. Single RCA cable. You may or may not need a Y adapter on the sub end.
@@Youthman Thanks that video was very helpful. I have a polk audio 12in 660wi Dsw pro subwoofer with a Denon 11.2 reciever. I only going to use 1 subwoofer for now but I wanted to layout cables in wall for future expansion and I wanted to make sure I laid the right cables in. Thanks again.
If you have 2 Sub outputs on the back of your AVR and are only setting up 2 Subs in the room should you still hook up where the other subs is coming out of the back of the first sub or just use the output on the back of the AVR one in each output?
Either way will work fine. The only benefit of using one sub out for each sub is you can adjust subwoofer trims in the receiver independently
But sound quality is the same with both methods
How do I connect dual Cerwin Vegas subs to my onkyo receiver r with only one rca sub connect on my receiver , when the subs only have one pair of RCA in puts and one LFE RCA line In ?? can you help me with this ??
Thanks for the video, enjoy your subs! am running a pair of the SB16's since last year and love them.
Thanks! If I like them enough, I’ll be selling my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs to pay for the dual SB-16
You will like them for sure! just run EQ, add a few dbs to your liking to each sub and listen.
Thx for the advice
Glad to help.
Ok, I was right with you until you unplugged two subwoofers from the receiver and then plugged the two SVS subs in. What happens to the two subs that were connected? Are you going to connect them to the output of the two SVS's like you explained?
Actually my real question is regarding my Onkyo tx nr 545. On the back of the receiver I have one sub output and one preout. Can I connect a second sub to the preout? My subs don't have outputs like the SVS subs.
Thanks!
If your receiver only has one subwoofer out, just use a Y splitter to separate the signal and use one sub cable to one subwoofer and the other cable to the other subwoofer
@@Youthman Ok I got ya. But what is the "preout" used for? Some information I see use the words sub, pre-out, and LFE interchangeably. The connection is directly under the sub output.
@@appstate1996 What model is your receiver? The sub-out is a preout for your sub. Typically you might have a Pre-out for other channels as well (Left, Right, Center etc).
@@Youthman I wish I could send a picture of the back panel. It's a Onkyo TX-NR 545.
Pete Minter you can email me at michael@youthmanreviews.com
So everything I've seen about multi-sub setup has recommended placement of the subs on opposite ends of the room...generally one in the front center and one in the rear center. I see you keep yours near the front speakers. The 'experts' claimed this just behaves like having one bigger sub and doesn't give the benefits of better fill for the room. Have you played with the other configurations?
My room is limited on sub placement. Having dual subs up front fixed a nasty bull between 40Hz - 50Hz. Take a look at this video ruclips.net/video/eXfH9WH8Yw8/видео.html
Thanks a lot Sir..
For clearing my doubt..
With the help of your info i can now add an extra subwoofer to my home theatre system..
Glad the video was helpful
youthman god dahm you haha.. i have these sub cables, and i had them the wrong way.. you made me feel like a fool hahahha;-) thx for another great video
With all this power usage what kind of dedicated breaker do you have and how much amps in the panel
I have a dedicated 20 amp circuit that is powering the following: Onkyo TX-NR 5008 Receiver, Parasound A52+ (180 x 5) Amp, (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra Subs, AppleTV and Playstation4. Typically I run (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs and I've yet to trip a breaker.
Youth Man, very informative and look forward to your reviews.
One question: I have one output from my receiver and one LFE on sub with no output, and I want to connect multiple subs, do you recommend that I split the output from my receiver?
Yes, a simple Y splitter on your receiver is all you need.
This video should help ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
Are you going to keep your Reference R-7 III floor-standing speakers, or do you still prefer the Klipsch La Scala audio quality?
I have not done any direct A/B between the RF-7 III and LaScalas but I have done direct A/B between my previous RF-83 (which is in the same Reference tier as RF-7 III) and the RF-83 were no comparison in detail and midrange. The LaScalas do not have the "slam" that the RF-83 had but the bass they do produce is incredibly low distortion due to the folded horn. If I decide to keep the RF-7 III, they will go in the living room 2ch setup and I'll give my RF-7 II to my son to match his RC-64 II and replace his original RF-7's. Thanks for watching!
Youthman Oh I thought you let the subwoofers handle all the bass. I always wondered why more folks don't do that as well, but I guess it gives you the option of buying lowered priced speakers.
My LaScalas are crossed over at 60Hz so 60Hz and below are routed to my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs.
I’m not sure I understand your comment regarding buying lower-priced speakers
WOW! that's a nice setup right there :), I did not even know what LFE was lol! thank you for the explanation. Subscribed!
Thank you kindly. I have a ton of other videos on my channel
Very nice system. What is the advantage of having more than two subs?
More output but also having multiple subs helps to even out the bass response throughout your room if you have multiple seats
Hi Bro, If we connect sub-woofers like this, Will I get lose in power output of the subs?
No each sub has their own amplifier
so it's good idea to remove the feet from subwoofers when they're foward facing speakers? I'll try that on my Klipsch R-100SW sub.. which is forward facing.. I do have a couple of KEF 1000 downfiring subs.. although only one works.. so if I were to connect a subwoofer cable from the R-100SW to the KEF sub that would work?
The only reason why I remove the feet is because I typically am moving subwoofers around my room. Sometimes I’m comparing to subwoofers and it makes it easy for me to slide them around on my carpet if the feet are not intact. For most people, there’s no reason to remove the feet. I just have a unique situation with reviewing subwoofers
Wow, I've been searching for video like this for very long time!! very informative!! Thank you
Glad you found the video helpful
I dont have "line out" on my Klipsch sp1 towers. Only lfe in and the lfe out on one sp1 is used to go into the other sp1. And I have a klipsch rw12d and a pioneer elite sc-07. With only 1 sub out but has a sub out for a multi channel operation. How can I use both sp1s and my rw12d on my pioneer elite sc-07. I'm also using klf 30s for my main fronts.
Use a Y Splitter from your receiver. Check out this video - ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
Hey Youthman - I am curious about the Klipsch sub's ports with reference to being behind an AT screen. Are they side or rear ported? Do you experience any screen movement from the drivers? You mentioned that the PB 16's would not be appropriate because of your AT.
I have two Paradigm Monitor 12 subs. These are sealed subs like the SB16's. I thought my next sub(s) would be the PB 16 Ultras but I'm concerned about screen movement as they would likely be approx 2" from the screen.
It sounds like the SB 16's are a "fair" compromise from the PB's and would still likely be a significant upgrade from my current Paradigms. It's not that I'm completely disappointed with them but I feel they lack a little in room shaking movie scenes.
Hi Kevin, I get that question often so I made a video about it - ruclips.net/video/VtLw9a1ey6s/видео.html. Short answer is no, the (4) RSW-15's do not move my screen...at least I cannot notice it with my eyes. I have watched many youtube videos of guys blowing hats and even balls across the room with the ports from the PB-16 so that's what I'm basing my assumption from. I'm not sure what changes it makes if you seal off some or all of the ports on the PB-16 and if that would be enough to not move your screen.
I just finished shooting another video on controlling the SB-16 and will be uploading it tomorrow. Then the next videos will be how do they perform and some actual demos.
Ok, so I saw some other comments that answered all my questions... The top ported SVS adds one more equation to the mix.
I'm not familiar with your subs but just looking at specs, I would say the SB-16 would be a HUGE upgrade for the following reasons. 1) Weight: 122lbs vs 41lbs. Weight is often attributed to size of box (typically larger equals more output), weight of magnet, better bracing etc. 2) Amplifier: 1500 watts RMS vs 300 watts RMS, 3) App controlable 4) Larger Driver: 16" vs 12". A 16" woofer will move a LOT more air and will pressurize a room much more easily than a 12" will. Once I upgraded to my first 15" sub, I have never gone back. I should have a good idea within the next few days how well the SB-16's perform. Stay tuned!
The cylinder subs might be a good fit for AT screens but I have never heard any myself
Thanks for replies.
Any downside to using a Y Splitter at the reciever? I have one wireless sub and one wired sub so it's not exactly easy to wire them to each other based on their room location.
Nope, that’s exactly what you will need to do.
thats an Insane system you have there! dual svs? whoa! beautifully designed system, though that receiver in that slideout , id be concerned abt heat ...maybe you have a fan circulating air back there.
This is my actual setup - ruclips.net/video/9rQxNd1Lf38/видео.html
I do have an AC Infinity Aircom on top of the receiver that has rear exhaust
Best description of a subwoofer hookup on RUclips. Great job. Thank you.
Thanks
How did you get rid of the rubber marks on your carpet? lol. Some speakers did the same to mine and nothing works! 😞 lol I know what a random question to ask
Honestly it’s been over a year. I likely got warm water and a wash cloth.
Youthman thanks, nothing I’ve tried works. I should’ve looked when the video was posted lol.
Just a heads up to save you some $$$. I have a pair of SVS SB 4000's which are basically the same subs with 13.5" drivers. They are excellent and I'm sure the SB 16's are as well. HOWEVER, these sealed subs really shine with music. If looking to simply shake your room when watching movies and to make explosions and such extremely intense, this can be achieved with much cheaper subs and spending $4,000 isn't required. Only do so if needing excellent music performance. In fact, if you're a lunatic that craves insane foundation shaking bass for some ungodly reason, look into their ported subs. All the children with peanut butter stains on their Xbox and Playstation consoles seem to crave those.
Thanks Steve. I've always been a fan of 15" drivers for my subs. I have not heard the SB4000 yet. If the Dual SB-16 Ultra perform as well as my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs, they would be an upgrade due to the beautiful piano black finish, app control-ability and the metal grills. Not to mention having new subs vs 15 year old subs....my amps could give out at any moment due to their age. As for ported, I'm pretty sure ported subs would be a bad idea behind my 150" AT Screen as they would "blow" the screen. I am curious to see if the SB-16 will cause the screen to move.
Yes, ported wouldn't work for you with those screens in front. Their big ported subs throw a ton of air. These SVS sealed subs are very good, you'll likely buy them especially with the discount they'll provide.. It's just that most people really don't know or care what good bass is when they hear it. If its loud, boomy and shakes the room, its all good and cheapo subs fit the bill for them. The problem with cheap subs is all the bass when playing "music" sounds similar. Its just boom, boom, boom and there's virtually no difference in a bass player for example striking an E or A string on their bass guitar. Its all muddled together with almost no definition. Best of luck to you.
The (4) Klipsch RSW-15’d that I have now are known for being musical. I rarely listen to music in the theater room but there is music throughout every movie so having a sub that is powerful for movies, yet refined for music is important to me.
They use different drivers
Hey youthman! Just finally got duals. I have 2 sub outputs on my receiver, so therefore I can just run each sub cable to each of the subwoofers lfe right? Correct? I did this and it worked... Just want to make sure it's correct.
It seems as if the subs only pick up the lows now. Before when I only had one sub, I heard more mid and high range bass from it. Now with duals the lows are powerful and everything else is virtually gone.
Awesome! Yes if your receiver has dual sub outs you can use one for each sub
If you were hearing midrange in your single sub, the crossover was set too high.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to midrange (as in vocals). Mid bass is fine. But again, your crossover setting will determine what frequencies your subs will play
@@billcozad7295 sounds like a frequency is being canceled. .I suggest if your receiver has auto calibration , to use it .. if not try switching the phase on the subs. set all other speakers to small with 80 hz crossover too
Are you using those inaddtion to your primary speakers or gonna use them in another set up,You got a killer set up!!!
thanks Richard. I am reviewing the Klipsch RF-7 III, RC-64 III and the Dual SVS SB-16 Ultras. currently I’m seeing how they perform for movies. If I decide to buy them, I will move the RF-7 III to the 2ch living room setup, give my RF-7 II to my son for his bedroom to go with his RC-64 II and will sell his RF-7’s. Then I’ll sell my (4) Klipsch RSW-15 subs to help pay for the Dual SVS SB-16 Ultras
How would I add two side surrounds for side left and side right.
Hello youthman!
Awesome video... if my subwoofers only have RCA inputs (1 being LFE), how can I connect multiple subs (4)?
This video should help - ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
Sir, I could see a subsonic option in my subwoofer back side and I'm just confused about how to use it and what is the frequency should I set??
I’m not sure what your question is. Are you wanting a subwoofer recommendation? If so, what is your budget, room size etc.
Try setting the crossover for your mains, center and surrounds to 80Hz. receivers
Sir actually there is a subsonic filter (High pass filter) behind my subwoofer.. I want to know the frequency level that I need to connect with my av receiver..
it took me a minute to realize the graphic of sub at 510 shows a different rca config. then the one u turned around earlier . i was saying what just happened? thanks for the vid !
Another great video and informative as always. Thanks Youthman
Thanks John. You are a great encourager
with my experience doing a cascade between sub 1 to the sub 2, with line out to line in between then, instead of bring the original source. is like doing a mirror delay between the sub 1 and sub 2, is not the same as you split the signal with Y adapter, and connect both unit from the single source. that happen to me once when i do use the cascade between two KLIPSCH RT12D. i don't know if this is the case with SVS. but also klipsch explain it on the RT12D manual.
I have never heard a delay with daisy chaining the RSW-15’s. The Dual SVS SB-16 are each using a Sub Out from my receiver
Can i use 2 male rca to 1 rca male cable to add a subwoofer
Awesome stuff Youthman. The SB are awesome - but being sealed (even as awesome as they are) you will probably be better served "replacing" your 4x RSW-15 with a pair of the PB-16 Ultra. They will energize the room much more than 2x SB.
I agree but PB would not work behind my 150” AT screen. They “blow” too much air and would cause the screen to wave
That would not be a problem, i run dual PB's myself and can't agree more with Kevin. But very nice setup, (new to your channel)
Kongen, I don’t think putting the equivalent of a leaf blower behind my 150” Screen would be a good idea. The PB-16 would cause the screen to wave so in my situation, the SB-16 would be the better solution
Do you have your dual PB behind an acoustic transparent screen or out in the open room?
Youthman sorry i was not aware of that. They would indeed shake your screen big time! :)
That is a sweet set up
Thanks David. Here is my current setup - ruclips.net/video/9rQxNd1Lf38/видео.html
Hi Bro nice video .. im waiting to hear them.. Bro i Need your help.. I Am Also Using Onkyo 5008 , My HDMi bord has gone .. I need to Replace the HDMi Board But i am NOT Able to seevice it in india because i Bought my Receiver in USA... Can You Please Help , Tell Me where i can get the HDMI board ?? Please
Sorry to hear about your board Paul. I would try reaching out to Onkyo to see if they can offer any assistance. I'm not sure where you could get a new board from.
When I adjust the volume on she subs evenly between the two they almost cancel each other out and I get no bass. Then when I turn the volume down on one the bass goes up on the other. Can someone help plz??
Hello great video there! I wonder how I can connect two receivers that have 5.1, so the surround sound won't be messed up ...? Any suggestions? They have RCA and Optic inputs
I have not tried using a 2nd receiver just for power but I have heard of guys doing it. I believe you will need to use the preouts of the first receiver to go into the second if it has multi-channel inputs.
What is the amplifier model name? Which model?
Does daisy chaining subs degrade the signal?
Not at all. That’s what they’re made to do.
I learned something new today. thanks for sharing sir.
Thanks! What did you learn?
one pre-out to multiple subs. I didn't know that's doable. one question thou, which is better?:
1. one pre-out to multiple subs
2. two pre-outs to multiple subs
appreciate for your feedback.
thanks
Neither method has any sonic benefit. It’s a matter of preference. If you have two sub preouts, my preference would be to use one sub preout for each of the two subs. If you only had one sub preout, you could use the line out on one sub to connect to the second sub or you could use a Y splitter like I showed in the video to split the signal to each sub. Again, no sonic difference. Just a matter of preference.
Most high end receivers with two sub outputs allow you to individually tune each subwoofer. This is extremely useful for subs that do not have their own EQ settings, as you'll want to use the receiver's EQ to remove any deadzones from each sub. Since each sub is in its own location, they will have their own deadzones, and need their own EQ.
thanks for the reply sir.
Great info thx , have to try and master all these things
I learn something new every single day
Youthman same here .
very clear "how to" thanks, it helps me allot!
Glad it was helpful
@@Youthman sir if we add more sybs on same channel is it gonna put load and damage the channel or not
No because your sub out is an unpowered signal. You can split that with a Y adapter. Each sub has their own amplifier
Check out this video I made on it - ruclips.net/video/4A87H0DqKZE/видео.html
No, you are sending an unpowered signal, it’s not perceived as “a load” to the receiver.
Very informative nice can you do this with wireless subwoofer sound bars
I have not reviewed any sound bars
You "GQ"d for this video!
Haha that’s funny Dave.
Great video ,you might find the subs move around without the rubber feet, it happen to me lol
Interesting. I’ll have to see how they do once I put them behind my AT screen
Another great video my friend, I'm learning a lot with you, especially to be organized with the connections in my home teather 😊. This Svs subwoofer has complete freedom of connections.👍
Thank you Ricardo. Glad you are enjoying the content.
I thought you were an expert until I seen the cables you are using. Lowest end monster on your subs. 3 dressed up as a 9 if you ask me
My apologies. I forgot one of the qualifications of a HiFi expert was the need to have fancy frufru cables. You would probably like the cables in this video - ruclips.net/video/ary7DYmaYk0/видео.html. Don't forget to buy some of those cable risers to go with them or the sound will not be able to transport you into the 5th dimension. Be blessed.
@@Youthman not what I was getting at buddy. You want to at least use the "same" to cables to get the same sound.
how big is your projector screen?
150” diagonal in 2.35:1 aspect ratio
@@Youthman oh i see...nice. only now i learned about this aspect ratio.thanks
I just looked up this vid. I fed one 12m cable through conduit and realized I needed a 15m for the other sub. I'm waiting for the 15m to get here and u guessed it!!!!!!! the 12m is backwards 🤣🤣🤣🤣. if I would have ordered both correctly I would have closed up the ceiling. what luck...
Perfect bro🤪🤪🤪👍👍👍👍👍👍
Why is it that your only using one single wire to your powered sub?
LFE is a mono signal
What a beautiful sight👍
Thanks again Nelson for the cables. They are being put to good use.
Youthman I'm glad you're using them👍
What if you have 2 subs but only one sub output on intergrated amplifier?
Simply use a Y RCA adapter. 1 male end with two female ends. Then connect that to two sub cables.
My powered sub doesn't have a out put, only input how can I hook up a second sub. Also my reciever only has one sub hook up
You can use a Y adapter to split the signal from your receiver to the two subs
Bro i Need to replace the HDMi board on My Onkyo 5008 .. Please Help Me in getting it .. I will be very greatful to you. thanks
I wish I could help Paul. You would need to contact Onkyo to help you with that. They used to have a replacement plan because they had so many issues with HDMI boards failing but my understanding is the deadline for that has passed. I'm wanting to upgrade my 5008 to Atmos.
thanks bro .. ok is there a place where they sell this online.. I tried onkyo they said i can to get Get it only in USA .. !!
I’m not aware of any, especially since it’s an older receiver
I looked on EBay but did not find anything
Bro, hdmi boards going out, not only on onkyos but on yamahas and other brands is so common...Its an absolute shame this area of the receivers wasnt designed to be troublefree and bulletproof cuz its happenned on my receivers as well, a high end yamaha that needs the board and i have no video from my hdmi out...i just keep an eye on ebay, but its hit and miss..you could buy a new board but mine is 400.00..good luck
You are so awesome
That's one big sub
These are my new subs - ruclips.net/video/LEyj2BZVXPM/видео.html
I use furniture movers to move mine around and they work well.
Me too but my furniture pads are made for hardwood floors. It was cheaper and quicker to remove the feet instead of running to Lowes
Youthman I understand, also thanks for the tip on the SVS interconnect...one of mine were routed the wrong way. Thanks for posting 😃
It’s debatable whether there is any validity to the directional cables but it doesn’t do any harm to connect them the right way
Why remove the rubber feet when you can just leave the subwoofer sideways?
I typically have to move the subwoofers around quite a bit due to the amount of speaker systems that I review at the same time. Removing the feed is the easiest thing for my workflow
Is there is any way to connect passive sub with active
No because the passive speaker gets power from a receiver while an active sub gets the signal from a receiver and powers the sub itself.
You could come out of your sub out on the receiver, into the active sub, then out of the active sub into an amplifier and then out of the amplifier via speaker wire to your passive sub.
@@Youthman I bought a pre build home theatre of Sony. But my rear speakers are wireless so If I buy a subwoofer so is any way to connect it wirelessly.
And love you home theatre setup . Your channel best in RUclips. Very informative .
Wow! What a compliment. Thank you sir. Glad the channel is providing value to you. Thank you for being a part of this incredible community.
If you are wanting to connect your sub wirelessly, you will likely need to buy a wireless sub adapter. Maybe something like this - www.svsound.com/products/soundpath-wireless-audio-adapter