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  • @DanielleKirsty
    @DanielleKirsty  9 месяцев назад +200

    Hey guys - you can go to audible.com/danielle or text danielle to 500-500 for a free trial of Audible 💜💜💜

    • @Isla008
      @Isla008 9 месяцев назад +10

      love you so much danielle💜💜💜

    • @Isla008
      @Isla008 9 месяцев назад +21

      hi danielle, i would really appreciate if you could look into my cousin's case, Glen Corner from South Shields.
      he was murdered on his 16th birthday and i would love if you could cover his case to raise awareness of knife crime in teens.
      im coming up to my own 16th birthday now and i have been thinking of him a lot so please take it into consideration 💜💜

    • @IcecoldLulu
      @IcecoldLulu 9 месяцев назад +7

      Hi Danielle! Please take care of yourself! Tongillitis sucks!

    • @scarebear1265
      @scarebear1265 9 месяцев назад +3

      Hey Danielle, could you cover the Jaycee Dugard case? I think you'd do a good job with it.

    • @MsBLACKSCREEN
      @MsBLACKSCREEN 9 месяцев назад +1

      OMG,
      I was worried about You, happily You're Okay. I thought you were maybe taking break or going to Crime Con in Nashville. First time I heard it in my life was another true crime channel that I watch on RUclips said They were going to be there. Anyway glad to hear you're getting better, much love to you and All the Hard Work You do putting these videos together😘😎

  • @liljellybean2572
    @liljellybean2572 9 месяцев назад +3772

    I’m not going to lie, I think that Timothy’s dad should be charged with something as well. He gave his son to someone who was not legally allowed to be his guardian due to her history of being abusive. There is no excuse for that.

    • @sharonwhite6126
      @sharonwhite6126 9 месяцев назад +230

      I thought this. He handed him over and never looked back.

    • @BrattyTude
      @BrattyTude 9 месяцев назад +75

      Absolutely!!!!!

    • @flippingthescienceclassrom
      @flippingthescienceclassrom 9 месяцев назад +170

      Child neglect at least! Timothy was under his custody and he obviously neglected and abandoned him to this woman.

    • @ShanaLynn-bc5ki
      @ShanaLynn-bc5ki 9 месяцев назад +43

      I agree that the dad should also be charged That's some BS

    • @hallievanoutryve3109
      @hallievanoutryve3109 9 месяцев назад +27

      @LydiaWeaveroh wow, there must have been some serious evidence of Paul SA against Timothy. Wow.

  • @mayflower2503
    @mayflower2503 9 месяцев назад +552

    The fact that Shanda was able to refrain from abusing Timothy while her husband was around just shows she could control her urges if she wanted to.

  • @Soraine_
    @Soraine_ 9 месяцев назад +977

    Poor Timothy died thinking he was a bad kid, feeling unloved, confused, hungry, exhausted.. he must have known he was going to die. I can't even comprehend what Timothy must have felt throughout all of this. Death must have felt like a blessing 😢

    • @mistressofmayhem616
      @mistressofmayhem616 9 месяцев назад +62

      When they tried to revive him I bet his soul was like no I'm finally free. RIP precious Timothy 😇 🕊️

    • @rebeccacrash9272
      @rebeccacrash9272 9 месяцев назад +37

      God, your comment made me cry. I can't even imagine.

    • @firevinyasabybuffy
      @firevinyasabybuffy 9 месяцев назад +7

      😢😢😢😢

    • @Gingerserenity
      @Gingerserenity 9 месяцев назад +6

      So very sad

    • @byJessCh
      @byJessCh 9 месяцев назад +19

      That boy was so unlucky to be born to this mother😢

  • @Pipelinebroken
    @Pipelinebroken 8 месяцев назад +163

    Timothy is in paradise now. I hope hes getting all the warm chicken nuggies and freshly baked bread his little heart desires. I hope hes resting on a fluffy cloud with a warm blanket and momma Mary holding him in his arms giving him all the motherly love he didn't get on his time on earth. RIP Timothy

  • @SpanishBarbie96
    @SpanishBarbie96 9 месяцев назад +261

    The father should be charged with child endangerment and abandonment. He knew that he had no business letting Timothy go stay with Shanda. Despicable.

    • @estellernmiambanzila9653
      @estellernmiambanzila9653 6 месяцев назад

      Hey don’t blame the father
      He didn’t know his ex wife would that

    • @kayne2889
      @kayne2889 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@estellernmiambanzila9653 Except he did, there were court orders in place his ex-wife wasn't to have even monitored visitation and there were orders in place to keep Paul completely separate, they couldn't even go to the same school. The father put Timothy somewhere he knew completely that Timothy wasn't legally allowed to be.

  • @crystalcoleman1985
    @crystalcoleman1985 9 месяцев назад +1515

    She has the audacity to complain about the food being bad in jail, but she starved her son to death. Nope! I hope the ladies in prison know what she did and do that to her behind bars!

    • @Court-vo7qz
      @Court-vo7qz 9 месяцев назад +135

      My mom did some time in prison. I guarantee the other inmates (if they find out what she did) take her food from her . She's not going to have a good time in there.

    • @RooiRokBokkie
      @RooiRokBokkie 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Court-vo7qzone can only hope

    • @gracemurrayart
      @gracemurrayart 9 месяцев назад +26

      And Timothy requested no spicy food when his aunt offered to send him something 😭

    • @alexisrushing7518
      @alexisrushing7518 9 месяцев назад +78

      @@Court-vo7qzYou are 1000% correct. My mom was a corrections officer and she would share stories with me. There is definitely a “code” in jail and prison. Harming children and the elderly in any way shape or form are big no no’s. If inmates caught wind of what she did they tearing her up every chance they get. The only safe place for her is the hole 23hr isolation.

    • @LillyMichaelson637
      @LillyMichaelson637 9 месяцев назад +41

      It's soooo unbelievable! Complaining about the food being bad in jail?? Nah nah nah girl, jail is too good for you

  • @LadyM45
    @LadyM45 9 месяцев назад +451

    I remember hearing "you can feel bad for the child but hate the adult they have become" and honestly those words apply 10000x to this case

    • @visualmoon2771
      @visualmoon2771 9 месяцев назад +8

      Hopefully it stops here in this family. Paul became his mother. Generational trauma. Heartbreaking it took losing Timothy for it to stop.

    • @apatheticaesthetic.
      @apatheticaesthetic. 9 месяцев назад +9

      No.. it doesn’t. Paul is not a victim here- at all. Listen to his jail calls.

    • @LadyM45
      @LadyM45 9 месяцев назад +1

      @apatheticaesthetic. the child has no control over their life.

    • @sierraj4262
      @sierraj4262 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes. We can recognize the reasons without using them as excuses!

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@LadyM45 Paul was a full grown ADULT with a job and social life. He was not a victim.

  • @kaitlinhillier
    @kaitlinhillier 9 месяцев назад +997

    Weaponizing autistic sensitivities like cold water, loud noises and spicy foods is so sadistic, let alone depriving him of stimming. She knew what she was doing.

    • @visualmoon2771
      @visualmoon2771 9 месяцев назад +36

      Pure evil

    • @kristinhatter
      @kristinhatter 9 месяцев назад +45

      Right and then trying to use her own mental health as some kind of excuse is disgusting in my opinion but I don't believe that she even suffers from anything that she claims

    • @akisatsuki8444
      @akisatsuki8444 9 месяцев назад +20

      And then complaining of those same sensitivities while being punished for her inhuman actions 😂 it would be funny if it wasn’t so horrible.

    • @AlexandraBolz
      @AlexandraBolz 8 месяцев назад +15

      As an autistic person, she makes my blood boil that she did this to torture her own son. This case affected me so much because of what Timothy went through.

    • @robertcomtois2074
      @robertcomtois2074 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@akisatsuki8444 Karma!!

  • @ccrock5810
    @ccrock5810 9 месяцев назад +113

    This was the hardest thing I’ve ever listened to. The length of time in which this little boy suffered is unfathomable/ unimaginable. Hatred cannot properly define what I feel for this mother and her adult son. That poor child, I would have given anything in the entire world to help him

    • @ameliabernard2678
      @ameliabernard2678 4 месяца назад

      Definitely agree

    • @lesterine77
      @lesterine77 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. People want to give paul a pass bc he was "under the control" of his mom. Pretty impossible when he moved in with her after high school. He's as much of a monster as her and I hope he is never released. I'm so that judge saw through his act.

  • @whitwillie4052
    @whitwillie4052 9 месяцев назад +124

    During the trial she remembers everything her son did wrong, but nothing that she did. Totally believable.

  • @annaelizabzth
    @annaelizabzth 9 месяцев назад +1515

    “He likes spicy food”
    How the hell would you know, GIRL YOU DON’T FEED HIM 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @ShanaLynn-bc5ki
      @ShanaLynn-bc5ki 9 месяцев назад +26

      Right🤦SMH

    • @Kelslshea
      @Kelslshea 9 месяцев назад +13

      "Yes he did," she said forcefully. "He ate spicy food."
      Because one Google search will tell you? If you’re going to do true crime, you do research. And more than one website will tell you what you’re asking most of the time.

    • @Deenurr
      @Deenurr 9 месяцев назад +21

      No, I like spicy food. No one LIKES something that reaches 800,000 scovilles. Da Bomb on that hot wings show… not even 200,000 and that’s made adults cry

    • @jembx24
      @jembx24 9 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@Deenurr

    • @eileencraddock472
      @eileencraddock472 9 месяцев назад +18

      Also (and I think this was mentioned in the trial), if he liked it, why were you using it as punishment??

  • @MarcyTrivette
    @MarcyTrivette 9 месяцев назад +792

    Why wasn't Timothy's father charged with anything? He was Timothy's legal guardian. He knew that Shanda wasn't legally allowed to have the kids but he sent Timothy off to live with her anyway because he couldn't handle him anymore. He also abused Timothy and his brother. Why hasn't he gotten into any kind of trouble for any of this?!

    • @Allieari
      @Allieari 9 месяцев назад +9

      Because prisons don't have staff to care for someone who can't take care of themselves. I guess they figure he is already in prison enough.

    • @angiebear8727
      @angiebear8727 9 месяцев назад +4

      Good question.

    • @angiebear8727
      @angiebear8727 9 месяцев назад +31

      @@Allieariit was his step father who had the stroke. His biological father is fine as far as I can tell.

    • @jepplehepple2103
      @jepplehepple2103 9 месяцев назад +5

      You cant even remotely compare failure to stop something with the act itself.
      Clearly the mother is 100 times more guilty than the dad.

    • @ImseriouslyaJedi
      @ImseriouslyaJedi 9 месяцев назад +22

      @jepplehepple2103 that's true but giving him back to someone who legally can't have him and he ends up dead counts as nothing? :( I know she did all of it but, it was his duty to protect that child. Like neglect! And the "reports" from when he wasn't in school does nothing too?

  • @sparkieemae
    @sparkieemae 9 месяцев назад +823

    His dad (& step mom too possibly) should be prosecuted for abandoning his son with his abuser. There's a reason she couldn't have legal custody, she was a shit parent before the father abandoned Timothy with Shanda for this to happen to him.

    • @karlybeech8094
      @karlybeech8094 9 месяцев назад +7

      I believe or heard that’s the reason they haven’t come forward is because they may be prosecuted.

    • @kellyeaton9994
      @kellyeaton9994 9 месяцев назад +9

      Yes and also for their neglect and abuse of Timothy and his siblings...

    • @mestillme3026
      @mestillme3026 9 месяцев назад +16

      CPS also knew about this family and completely failed Timothy on every level.

    • @aprilholton1150
      @aprilholton1150 9 месяцев назад +6

      Everyone who has followed this case asks why the bio father has not been prosecuted!! I feel the same way, although I hear the step-mom Trish was furious with Paul and says she would have taken Timothy back if Shonda couldn't handle it. They shouldn't have sent him up to Michigan for a second with his mother, so I agree there should be some accountability here!

    • @sparkieemae
      @sparkieemae 9 месяцев назад +3

      @aprilholton1150 at VERY least with his father! Maybe have the step mom face a milder consequence like fines/probation but dad deserves PRISON because he absolutely KNEW he wasn't allowed to leave him with her and why.

  • @ChairmanMeowOk
    @ChairmanMeowOk 9 месяцев назад +151

    Side note: Water does not help with hot sauce, it only makes it worse.

    • @Cheerslove08
      @Cheerslove08 9 месяцев назад +26

      Yes one should drink milk or eat white bread. 😢

    • @ChairmanMeowOk
      @ChairmanMeowOk 9 месяцев назад +7

      Sad story aside, let's hope daniellekristy has a good experience with some spicy food lol

    • @Cheerslove08
      @Cheerslove08 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@ChairmanMeowOk definitely 🙈

    • @kayleigh3648
      @kayleigh3648 9 месяцев назад +7

      Feels better for me when I drink it, so I’m just gonna stick to what makes me feel better regardless of what “the science” says 🤷‍♀️

  • @CityKat369
    @CityKat369 9 месяцев назад +77

    A scary aspect of this case, to me, is that if she hadn’t decided to call emergency services, and instead chose to hide/dispose of her deceased son, she very well may have gotten away with it. At least for a time. What a monster this woman is!

  • @JRKonungrinn
    @JRKonungrinn 9 месяцев назад +486

    I don't understand why there wasn't an investigation to find Timothy after the dad pulled him out of school and he was no longer enrolled anywhere or seeing any doctors anymore.

    • @sunnybearbuds
      @sunnybearbuds 9 месяцев назад +10

      Exactly.

    • @LetsPatchItUp
      @LetsPatchItUp 9 месяцев назад +4

      That's not a thing, that's why

    • @flippingthescienceclassrom
      @flippingthescienceclassrom 9 месяцев назад +37

      Unfortunately it’s really hard to follow up on students withdrawing, and if the father was able to list him as home schooled many states don’t follow up at all. In TN I registered my son as homeschooled and not a soul from the school system has ever seen him, which terrifies me for children of abusive parents. I figured they would at least require to see him or a physical or something to prove he was alive and well.

    • @gameplaygirl3268
      @gameplaygirl3268 9 месяцев назад +24

      This is what I'm thinking. Timothys teachers knew he wasn't being fed, washed and wearing dirty clothes because they were feeding him and washing him/clothes. They knew something was going on, I'm wondering at this point why CPS/DHS wasn't alerted. If I was a teacher I would have already altered the authorities. If that student then just disappeared without trace, I'd be back on to the authorities

    • @Summer09824
      @Summer09824 9 месяцев назад

      Well people move so they could have moved out of state, country etc.

  • @laurap6534
    @laurap6534 9 месяцев назад +837

    Everyone who worked with her and didn't report her should be charged also

    • @Sassy-b6c
      @Sassy-b6c 9 месяцев назад +64

      You would think they would have. I mean being mandated reporters. Lots of people failed this poor child. I hope he is resting peacefully. 😢

    • @sharongrigg5336
      @sharongrigg5336 9 месяцев назад +35

      To think they heard what she was saying into her phone & she told them outright about the punishments I'm just lost for words.. it appears nobody did anything, no calls to CPS, nothing. They're all responsible in some way for this horrific outcome.

    • @Petra44YT
      @Petra44YT 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, that is SO TRUE!!!

    • @YanYan-mj3hv
      @YanYan-mj3hv 9 месяцев назад +16

      Also presumably most of them graduated with law degrees? I mean what the actual hell...

    • @icequeen6512
      @icequeen6512 9 месяцев назад +3

      Let's not forget how she micro managed everything.
      Look how much she made sure that G her youngest who I can assure you no matter how much you think you have control and are hiding everything, kids do not miss a trick.
      Even if that child cannot verbalise it well, just look at his statements to LE..
      He missed nothing of what was going on.
      Yet look at how confident she was to let him stay with his grandparents.
      Even though she made sure they never entered the property.
      She made sure nobody would say anything even if she took certain risks.

  • @Blxckrxbbits.
    @Blxckrxbbits. 9 месяцев назад +411

    The pizza roll part made me cry and pray for that baby’s soul. If there is something after this life I hope he is enveloped in warmth amongst loving angels.

    • @jessicajarsak7812
      @jessicajarsak7812 9 месяцев назад +11

      I had prayed that I hoped he’s with God because this poor kid never knew love and God is love. That poor kid didn’t deserve the treatment he did. That was horrible! I pray he’s in heaven with the all loving Father Gods arms. People can be so cruel. I know God cries over all these children being mistreated and end up dying. People failed this kid. 😢

    • @tajanabosnjakovic1675
      @tajanabosnjakovic1675 9 месяцев назад +22

      @@jessicajarsak7812 that same god that allowed for that to happen to him or some other god? and after this story you have the fucking audacity to say that god is love???? are you fucking kidding me???

    • @harley4886
      @harley4886 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@tajanabosnjakovic1675 i’m not the person you replied to but you have such a good point there, time and time again i always question is there even a god when terrible things like this happen? i don’t know what to believe in anymore.

    • @strawberryauberry
      @strawberryauberry 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@tajanabosnjakovic1675 God is love. Humans are sinful and wicked. I hope that God reveals Himself to you and that you are blessed with the joy and peace that only comes from having a relationship with him. The devil is the ruler of the earth (the prince of the air) , until Jesus comes back and the years of tribulation pass. Then, the devil will be defeated by God. I am sorry that this happened… but God did not do this. A human did. They will be judged accordingly. As will I… and you.

    • @aprilholton1150
      @aprilholton1150 9 месяцев назад

      Excuse me, I have to interject here as I have heard many people say what you have. Yes there is a God and He is Love, Peace, Joy, etc. there is also a devil who is opposite of God! That is why bad things happen! We have free will, so we can choose whom we want to serve, God or satan. The choice is yours and mine, I personally chose God as my Savior! People who choose to serve the evil one(satan) will go to hell for eternity! That is where Shonda in this case will be going, Paul also!! That is where they deserve to go, do you agree?!? Timothy is in Heaven in the arms of Jesus and the angels and that gives me great joy to know that. God bless you
      Who do you choose?!?@@tajanabosnjakovic1675

  • @nicolemissdothacker
    @nicolemissdothacker 9 месяцев назад +93

    I feel bad for his step father, not his fault he had a stroke, and no doubt he feels partly responsible for not being their to protect Timothy. Nothing in this world will make me ever feel bad for Shandra, she is pure evil. I am offended my tax dollars pay for food for her.

  • @reganoconnor8151
    @reganoconnor8151 9 месяцев назад +116

    I worked with Paul at Applebees, still work there actually! But I remember he was a strange dude… he would often get frustrated and lash out, Im not sure what about since he was alone in the dish area most of the time. But he would also always blast super heavy metal music and sing along. I remember hearing something about his brother and abuse but never knew anything in depth until this video, and one of my coworkers showed me! Absolutely heartbreaking what Timothy had to endure, I would’ve never guessed a coworker would be doing all of this.

    • @lucasmaguire5014
      @lucasmaguire5014 9 месяцев назад +19

      God that must be horrifying, to have someone that close to you as your coworker and you find out they’re responsible for this stuff

    • @apatheticaesthetic.
      @apatheticaesthetic. 9 месяцев назад +21

      If you heard Paul’s jail phone calls.. it’ll really show you who Paul is when he thinks no one else will be listening.. he’s an actor and sociopath.. what the judge said at his sentencing is insanely spot on. Paul thought he played everyone and they bought his BS.. so when the judge said 30-100 years.. his reaction is PRICELESS. Because.. we have the jail calls that happened just prior to his sentencing.. and Paul said multiple times that he really thought he’d be getting out right after his sentencing and the only worthwhile reason to testify in Shanda’s trial was for him to get a good deal..&; and Paul hates spicey food.. can’t eat the trays so he needs commissary.. he never says thank you NOT EVEN ONCE- to anyone.. he gave his bunkie rules to follow bc his bunkie is on the spectrum and he annoys Paul. 😑😑🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️.. you CAN NOT make this shit up. Paul is seriously a sociopath. And to top it off.. there’s the recording of Paul and Timothy the afternoon before Timothy died.. Paul was such a callous dick. I don’t even want to say what happened in it bc it’s too fucked up I’m trying to keep it from my mind.. Paul is no victim.. Paul is a sociopath and acts depending on who he’s talking to.. it’s disgusting.

    • @lucasmaguire5014
      @lucasmaguire5014 9 месяцев назад

      @@apatheticaesthetic. I also heard his RUclips channel is still up

    • @reganoconnor8151
      @reganoconnor8151 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@apatheticaesthetic. I haven’t listened to them, I’m not sure I want to tbh it’s already so heartbreaking. My bf and I used to do delivery driving also, he did the bulk of it but I came along a lot. I’m like 99% sure we’ve delivered to their house, it looks so familiar I remember an exact moment pulling into the driveway it rly looks so similar, the yard, driveway, house shape/color, evertything. That house rang such a loud bell it was scary to know I’m pretty sure (I can’t be fully sure) I’ve been within a yelling distance of poor Timothy, but I do know for a fact we were delivering around Norton Shores at the time too so the coaches rly aren’t that low :(

    • @reganoconnor8151
      @reganoconnor8151 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@lucasmaguire5014 at the time nobody knew the full extent, only that his brother died from starvation and he played a role in it (hypothermia wasn’t mentioned). I didn’t really follow the trials mainly bc I was j unaware they were happening, and had kinda forgotten about Paul entirely (he was NOT easy to work with). I was jaw dropped pretty much this whole video watching it with a few coworkers one night, I knew he was an unpleasant person and rude in general, but this never crossed my mind. But I can say knowing him as a person I am pretty confident he is not mentally all there, or he has some sort of mental illness, he was not a normal dishwasher to say the least.

  • @vivianaestremera5381
    @vivianaestremera5381 9 месяцев назад +397

    I’ve never in my life hated a persons face the way I do this woman

    • @Hazeldays313
      @Hazeldays313 9 месяцев назад

      Dont look up Paris Bennet. That is what a demon looks like

    • @elisadedemoboaretto2470
      @elisadedemoboaretto2470 9 месяцев назад +15

      I'm with you on this..we hear a lot of horrible things here, but what this devilish woman did with this poor kid...broke me 😢

    • @MsMelena76
      @MsMelena76 9 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@elisadedemoboaretto2470 Same! I listen to a lot of true crime and I don't get choked up often. What this evil woman did literally had me balling for that poor baby boy 😢

  • @EGGrun
    @EGGrun 9 месяцев назад +270

    This child knew nothing but terrible abuse his whole life. Timothy wasn't a problem child. He was disabled, but he could have thrived had he not been abused. This is one of the worst cases of child death ever.

  • @BrattyTude
    @BrattyTude 9 месяцев назад +234

    I just found her mug shot on the Michigan department of correction website. Shanda Vander Ark. she looks scared lol I’m sure the ladies will not go easy on her. May the rest of her days be as miserable

    • @TheElena1951
      @TheElena1951 9 месяцев назад +3

      Amen!

    • @aprilholton1150
      @aprilholton1150 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, there are a lot of us who feel the same! Although she might have a plus knowing the law and other inmates might go to her for advice------hope not, but probably. Besides, when this is all said and done Shonda and Paul will get punished in hell for eternity!!! I'm sorry but that makes me feel better because they are monsters!!

  • @chrisjackman9102
    @chrisjackman9102 9 месяцев назад +51

    I’m just glad they were stupid enough to call 911 because they probably could of concealed the body and it’d go under the radar because of the circumstances of him not being at schools, drs etc.
    Absolutely disgusting humans. I’m devastated for Timothy. As someone with adhd, being under stimulated is torture enough. That poor boy.

    • @deeborahm1martin615
      @deeborahm1martin615 9 месяцев назад +1

      I know , I wonder if burying a body was a step too far or they thought they would get away with it. For someone who studied law she certainly didn’t have much common sense. Both of them are disgusting, that poor boy never seemed to have a second of happiness.

  • @shannonoetken589
    @shannonoetken589 9 месяцев назад +34

    She should've been charged with the same "punishments" that she inflicted on Timothy. Same with the brother!

  • @racheljay2675
    @racheljay2675 9 месяцев назад +234

    In her interview she said “if he wanted to eat all he had to do was ask” that floored me! Mom dad and bro should all be held responsible for this poor boys death

    • @michelleInanna5710
      @michelleInanna5710 9 месяцев назад +14

      No one should need to ask permission to eat in their own home. Yes asking to be made something they might not be capable of yet, but not permission! So that excuse doesn't pass either, even tho we know that wasn't the case.

    • @bethnorrod5942
      @bethnorrod5942 9 месяцев назад +10

      She said during trial he would sneak food and toys. I was yelling at my TV. She acted like it wasn't normal for a child to want to play and eat.

  • @BeckyKelly94
    @BeckyKelly94 9 месяцев назад +211

    Shonda's colleagues should face repercussions for knowing about abuse crime taking place and not calling the police

    • @kayleigh3648
      @kayleigh3648 9 месяцев назад +10

      Charged with what?? This woman was extremely intelligent & manipulative and understood law. So she certainly didn’t outright say anything to incriminate herself like “ok, we’re gonna have to starve him again this week”, or “lock him in the closet for the rest of the day”, or “leave him in the ice bath for 9hrs”. They would’ve heard the prettied up versions of everything, like “keep him away from that” ie, food. Or “give him a special bath”, ie ice bath…. And if there was anything that didn’t have a ‘code word’ she would’ve just texted him.
      You really think she was outright incriminating herself in front of them?!? You must not have an understanding of how much forethought and planning that goes into these evil ppls crimes. Those coworkers didn’t have a clue!

    • @IndigoBellyDance
      @IndigoBellyDance 6 месяцев назад

      All they had to do was walk over to the judge &/or wait till cops come by

    • @keeprxnning1826
      @keeprxnning1826 2 месяца назад

      @@kayleigh3648I would at the very least call CPS for a wellness check on the child if my coworker literally ONLY said negative things about them and how they dislike their own child. That’s suspicious

  • @losthomestead14
    @losthomestead14 9 месяцев назад +697

    As a mom of a son with autism... yes he likes to undo screws/bolts, tear up things, peel or pick at wallpaper, and write on everything. That is just something you need to work to help curb. I make him busy boards, I buy him Lots of stim toys and thrift literally tons of books because they 4 times out of 10 will end up destroyed. It is just part of life. He can't help the way he is. He needs a lot of extra care and attention. ❤

    • @mardeenawillcuts374
      @mardeenawillcuts374 9 месяцев назад +33

      Exactly! I do the same with my son. I have locks on everything. He's getting better, but he used to flush so many bottles of shampoo, soap, body wash, bathroom cleaner down the toilet. He seems to be both fascinated and scared of it, and will not sit down. I hide the pins, pencils, and markers.

    • @beautifulellie1223
      @beautifulellie1223 9 месяцев назад +21

      I really appreciate your comment. I know some of my siblings took apart and fixed lots of things when they were younger, neither are autistic. Quick question, is taking apart things more prevalent in autistic kids? I would imagine it helps keep them distracted too.

    • @mojojojo3411
      @mojojojo3411 9 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@beautifulellie1223it's the stimming of taking things apart that could be an indicator. But you'd need way more than that to determine if someone is autistic.

    • @losthomestead14
      @losthomestead14 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@mardeenawillcuts374 I can relate to this big time. ❤️ it is a struggle but every moment of frustration is well worth it. I absolutely love my son, even when he is at his most difficult. No matter how hard it gets, you can do this!

    • @losthomestead14
      @losthomestead14 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@beautifulellie1223 it can be. His psychologist says autism is diagnosed more from motive than actions. He unscrews things because he likes things that turn or spin. I have a friend who welds so we welded rings onto big bolts so we could chain them to his busy board and they won't be lost. He sometimes puts things back together but his motivation is mostly to turn or spin them 😆
      The other commenter is 100% correct. It is stimming. Stimming is like fidgeting with things because of nervous energy. It CAN indicate autism but is only one of many signs.

  • @Evelynlouise089
    @Evelynlouise089 9 месяцев назад +16

    I have 2 children with autism. 💯 that beautiful boy was ripping the paper and unscrewing things because he was sensory deprived and was seeking out stimulation. Pretty sus that it was the screws to the bed and I will put my life on it that it was wallpaper near his bed too. I think it was because he was probably told to stay on his bed and not move. Also I heard that he was afraid to go to the actual toilet to urinate because that’s where Paul SA’d him, in the bathroom.
    I look at my children and think how much help and guidance they need everyday and that poor boy got worse than nothing, he got tortured for needs that he could not help. On top of the torture it’s the emotional anguish he must have been going through that really upsets me. I wish I had a Time Machine to go back and save him from what he went through. Hope you are resting in the most beautiful paradise Tim. You deserved so so much better than what you had ❤️.

  • @rainnitsche3
    @rainnitsche3 9 месяцев назад +17

    Honestly unalive those 2 immediately I was almost puking and crying over this poor little boy..poor poor boy. .

  • @taylormontgomery5357
    @taylormontgomery5357 9 месяцев назад +310

    There are people who go through abuse and turn their trauma into healing to help others. There is no excuse for her to then go and abuse someone else. Period. She’s just a bad person.

    • @LadyM45
      @LadyM45 9 месяцев назад +15

      Like I posted a little bit ago. I heard a quote "its completely okay to feel terrible for the child but hate the adult they have become" two things can be correct at the same time. However neither is an excuse

    • @LizStaples
      @LizStaples 9 месяцев назад +2

      This is true and before step dad had a stroke she was more in check so she clearly knew what she was doing was wrong.

    • @rhisspecialinterest
      @rhisspecialinterest 9 месяцев назад +6

      Both Shonda & Paul had a horrific start in life, I have empathy for the children they once were and contempt for the adults they became.
      I was sexually abused as a child by a relative, I'm autistic and cannot imagine how distressing this torture was for this poor sweet boy. I know what I went through wasn't as awful and I was able to get out, but I internalised my traumas, I never put them onto other people, the idea of hurting someone the way I was hurt repulses me. I'm more healed now & have a long way to go, but I know sure as shit if I do decide to have a child, especially an autistic one like myself, I NEVER want them to feel the fear, shame and isolation I felt. I want them to know home is a safe space and they can come to me with anything at anytime and there will be nothing, but understanding and love.
      If I'm honest this is part of the reason I'm not sure about having kids, I want to make sure I'm as healed as I can be before I do, I can't bare the thought of them turning out anything like me.
      This is the reason I don't fuck with the "they were abused themselves so it's not their fault mindset". I am accou for what I do now and so am I, my brain didn't see the horror I faced and think "oooh I'll do that with mine too!" Infact it went the complete opposite way. I am passionate that NO child should have to go through the variety of abuses so many of us face.

    • @RoseBenedictCreative
      @RoseBenedictCreative 9 месяцев назад

      A very high percentage of abused children go on to abuse. They can't just all be "bad". That's very simplistic. Obviously they are perpetuating learned behaviours. I don't know what the answer to stopping this abuse is, except early intervention from the authorities?

    • @allluvin7977
      @allluvin7977 8 месяцев назад

      I often wonder why abusers go through such lengths to go the hard way out of becoming monsters. I look at my father and just think why he had to be so abusive. Well, my dad had a tragic backstory where he lost his mother at 12 by diabetes and since they were poor they couldn't do anything. Not long after her death, his father died of drinking too much which created the man he is today. My mother went through shit too but she isn't abusive, she became a victim of my father's abuse all thanks to my grandfather on my maternal side who was abusive so I believe she seeked the normal abuse with my dad. I can understand his frustrationa I just wish he was caring of a father to his first children then I wouldn't have existed which would be okay if my dad was actually a good father

  • @HexIsme
    @HexIsme 9 месяцев назад +188

    Let's call it what it is: Shanda tortured her son to death.

  • @sundance270
    @sundance270 9 месяцев назад +308

    Spicy challenge/hot sauce consumer here: for those unfamiliar with the effects of extreme hot sauce, beyond the discomfort of the heat, high enough capsaicin levels can cause what are called capsaicin cramps which are essentially cramps in your intestines that mothers have said are similar to labor pains. The pain can be unreal and come in waves for hours upon hours until your body processes all the capsaicin. I've done a full bottle chug of Xtreme Regret before and the aftermath was absolute torture for about 4-5 hours. What Timothy probably experienced beyond the mouth pain breaks my heart because there's nothing you can do about it but suffer. You're lucky if your body chooses to purge it to take the edge off a longer session of cramps. I'm so sorry this happened to him. I try not to cry thinking about it.

    • @Msjay77
      @Msjay77 9 месяцев назад +30

      Thank you for explaining this. How horrid she and her son are for doing this to him. 😢💔

    • @MarcyTrivette
      @MarcyTrivette 9 месяцев назад +24

      I can't even imagine eating even a tiny amount of that hot sauce! I cannot handle anything spicy. My kids like hot Cheetos. My 6 year old son convinced me to try one once and I was fanning my open mouth with my hand and drinking water afterwards. My tongue and mouth are really that sensitive to spicy foods. I don't even like the tingle that my tongue gets from black pepper!

    • @danielle6883
      @danielle6883 9 месяцев назад +6

      That's dreadful x

    • @BCFBreakfastClubFan
      @BCFBreakfastClubFan 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@MarcyTrivette I'm the same. My tongue will get all raw and sore-almost like a first degree burn-from the mildest of spices. I mean-hot cheetos are too much for me. Black pepper has to be extremely-and I do mean extremely-lightly added to food (I never put it on my own food on purpose). I couldn't imagine being forced to ingest hot sauce like that. My mouth would be so sore and raw for days afterword from just a drop of that crap.

    • @AlexandraBolz
      @AlexandraBolz 9 месяцев назад +6

      I’m glad you explained what this pain is like. I just couldn’t imagine the pain he experienced and I cried thinking about all the pain he went through besides the hot sauce situation.

  • @gracepoe4129
    @gracepoe4129 9 месяцев назад +6

    I don’t normally comment on videos but the entire time I was pregnant all I watched was you and now my baby won’t sleep to anything but your videos 😭🤣 I’m not even complaining man

  • @kazzikubena1860
    @kazzikubena1860 9 месяцев назад +6

    Rest in peace Timothy...that poor child didn't have love in his life and that just breaks my heart..he didn't deserve that...

  • @londonsage8696
    @londonsage8696 9 месяцев назад +182

    I literally just started crying because I know about abuse. I’m 62 years old now and I still suffer from PTSD, panic attacks, childhood trauma and depression. I don’t know what goes through appear mind when they do something like that to their own child. I suffer from insomnia as well and when someone tries to hug me, I still jump or if someone just touches my shoulder out of the blue and I don’t see it coming I jump. This poor child didn’t deserve this at all. No child does Paul could’ve done something and he didn’t. He was part of the problem. Timothy didn’t stand a chance the minute he was born, and I placed some of the blame on his father. These two sick and disgusting vile monsters belong under the prison for the rest of their lives. It wasn’t as Paul was afraid of his mother he just couldn’t stand his brother. years ago, the place that saved me was an orphanage in New York, called Mount Loretto in Staten Island. People sometimes think that orphanages are dirty, and the children are mistreated and beaten. Mount Loretto saved my life. I’m still crying as I am leaving this message because to look at his innocent face breaks my heart my son had asked me one day did I ever regret leaving New York to try to have a relationship with my biological family. I told him yes I love my younger brother and sister and cousins along with nieces and nephews. My father passed away from dementia, so I never had the chance to ask him why he he never protected me.. I still have a rough relationship with my mother so we don’t talk very often and I’m OK with that.
    Rest in Peace Sweet Timothy
    You don’t have to hurt anymore . You’re with God.
    🙏🏽♥️🥰🦋🕊️
    Sleep Peacefully Angel😔
    Danielle,
    I want to say first of all that I’m glad you’re feeling better. The one thing that I love is when you do your videos on something as heartbreaking as this you don’t hide your emotions. I can see that this was very heartbreaking for you to do as well
    Bless 🙏🏽

    • @BlackRainbow84
      @BlackRainbow84 9 месяцев назад +12

      I'm the same. I just commented on my father abusing me. Now i can't hug ppl (except my pets lol) or be touchy feely. It's so hard to be close to anyone and be vulnerable. I'm almost 40 and live by myself with my cat, i'm not a kid person and have always preferred animals. My father passed 12 yrs ago from cancer i was told was caused from years of alcohol abuse. We didn't go to the funeral.

    • @londonsage8696
      @londonsage8696 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@BlackRainbow84 i’m so sorry that happened to you and I didn’t go to my father‘s funeral either. Although he wasn’t my abuser once he remarried, and had another daughter, it was if I never existed. People that don’t understand try to tell me I need to move on but that’s something you could never move on from. Especially when it’s from someone who gave birth to you, and I felt the only thing that I ever did wrong was being born. the one thing that I can say is that it’s not our fault. God bless you.

    • @madilydiarose7742
      @madilydiarose7742 9 месяцев назад +6

      i’ve also experienced this in my life. i’m 17 and i’ve been going through this since i was 10 years old, and it is so incredibly frustrating to see other parents, (specifically mothers) treat their children awfully. i was given tobasco sauce (poured down my throat, might i add) as a punishment when i was younger, so the mention of hot sauce in this case makes me feel sick.

    • @londonsage8696
      @londonsage8696 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@madilydiarose7742 i’m so sorry this happened to you and you’re so young. I hope you’re in a safe place back when I was a kid. They didn’t have very many places that you could go to. I don’t even know if CPS was around back then you’re young and I hope that, you’re getting some help so you don’t have to go through any trauma like I did. People who abuse children who are innocent, have no place on this earth at all. please remain strong and resilient and like I said, I hope you’re living someplace else and you’re happy and thriving God bless you

    • @Justme-uu4nc
      @Justme-uu4nc 9 месяцев назад +6

      Prayers for u stay strong... One of the craziest things is when a parent abuses u and love bombs u! I'm so screwed up, my man a good one to try and understand and deal with me❤❤. But honestly hon I am there with u and it stinks😢 my heart and soul is so broken over this case and the many others no one even knows about 😢

  • @jrr7312
    @jrr7312 9 месяцев назад +293

    Danielle! I’ve missed you!!! Glad to see you back :) This case is the epitome of “every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.” Shanda’s childhood was horrendous, but that is not an excuse for the horrors and evils she goes onto commit. May she rot in prison.

    • @vivianaestremera5381
      @vivianaestremera5381 9 месяцев назад +6

      In those two weeks I’ve literally watch 98 percent of her videos 😂 and so happy to see a new one ! Even those I’ve watch this story on the news watch docs and the trial still wanted to watch since she always put more detail in her videos then most do

  • @tigerprincess1109
    @tigerprincess1109 9 месяцев назад +311

    I saw a video about this lady and Paul on a Facebook video once and I just wanna say that the fact that this woman had the audacity to feel sick in the courtroom over abuse that SHE started with her son blew my mind. She didn’t get the right to feel that way after everything she did. This case was absolutely disgusting.

    • @nataliecerny3085
      @nataliecerny3085 9 месяцев назад +25

      Right!! She made him look like that! She starved him to death! Now they show her the pics of Timothy looking like a concentration camp victim and she just can't bare to look. Throwing up in court?! She's a great actress.

    • @Billybloop
      @Billybloop 9 месяцев назад +6

      I mean it's not black and white. A lot of people who do cruel and sadistic acts feel some degree of remorse. Her remorse just wasn't enough to stop her, unfortunately and was overshadowed by her desire for power and control.

    • @cedrics5241
      @cedrics5241 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly.. it's probably acting. @@nataliecerny3085

    • @denise8791
      @denise8791 9 месяцев назад +20

      I don't think it was a real reaction. I don't believe she feels the real reactions/emotions that people feel. It seemed more like a "this is how I should react so I will do this" but it was over acted because she doesn't know what the real emotion is.

    • @mellvee
      @mellvee 9 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@BillybloopThe dry heaving was ridiculously fake. Even the judge didn't buy it.

  • @TheCombatWombat0
    @TheCombatWombat0 9 месяцев назад +12

    I'm currently 4 weeks postpartum after delivering my baby girl, my first baby and my rainbow baby. Before having a baby, it upset me greatly to hear about children being harmed, but now it just makes my heart absolutely break I cry. I can't ever imagine any harm to my baby, let alone ANY baby. Some people are just beyond messed up.😢🤬

    • @Lenergyiskey358
      @Lenergyiskey358 8 месяцев назад

      Same, I have a son and it is amazing how you automatically picture it as your child and your heart bleeds.

    • @Emilythematerialgurl
      @Emilythematerialgurl 7 месяцев назад

      Im so sorry hear about rainbow baby but i want say take time postpartum can be hard but i want say i know got this and its ok not feel happy

  • @mmalan8243
    @mmalan8243 9 месяцев назад +39

    As a fellow child abuse survivor, these stories hurt our souls. I’m crying my eyes out for this little boy. Rest in peace, and in the arms of Jesus my little one.
    Thank you for telling the stories that are so hard to tell. That are so hard to hear, but need to be told.

    • @JupiterThndr
      @JupiterThndr 9 месяцев назад +1

      It’s heart breaking also a child abuse survivor myself. I was very fortunate that my mum was so supportive and fought for me to get justice and my safety. A mother’s love is something we take for granted.

  • @Beeperoni
    @Beeperoni 9 месяцев назад +151

    I’m a carer for children like Timothy and it’s shocking how often we see this type of clear abuse, report it and get ignored by CPS. It’s horrific

    • @vivianaestremera5381
      @vivianaestremera5381 9 месяцев назад

      Cps is useless smh

    • @Suz4155
      @Suz4155 9 месяцев назад +8

      I'm sure it's not just me that hate to hear that.😢

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity 9 месяцев назад +4

      Oh my goodness! That's awful and unacceptable! CPS should be held accountable for every single child that they fail with fines and jail time!!!!! Can't emphasize how strongly I feel about this! They're worse than useless 😞

    • @AlexandraBolz
      @AlexandraBolz 9 месяцев назад +6

      It really is. In a lot of cases she has covered it infuriates me when there are a million red flags and all are ignored and it causes a death. In this case, there are so many times where Timothy could’ve been saved, not only by social services, but his own brother too and he didn’t care about him or bothered to help him. Idk how the hell after he fed Timothy that whole meal he didn’t think about calling the cops and letting his brother’s abuse stop. Timothy would still be alive if he had done that, but he didn’t, which is why I have no sympathy for Paul.

    • @LaRodillaDans
      @LaRodillaDans 9 месяцев назад

      See neglect and secual abuse often and cps just looks the other way. Sickening

  • @TinaMarie1984
    @TinaMarie1984 9 месяцев назад +77

    I raised my Sisters Autistic son, my Nephew… he’s the best thing that ever happened to me 💙 I’m SO devastated that Timothy was abused, neglected & dehumanized. I wish I could take them all & show them the love they deserve. My heart is absolutely shattered 💔😢

  • @dianner5148
    @dianner5148 9 месяцев назад +130

    Hold it. Did i miss something. She was able to go to law school with a histoy of child abuse. I have to get Police Vetting form for my Sport & Rec degree to make sure im safe to work around children in case i plan on working with children

    • @mistressofmayhem616
      @mistressofmayhem616 9 месяцев назад +11

      She wasnt able to actually become a lawyer though because she owed 50k in child support.

    • @smileyraw
      @smileyraw 9 месяцев назад

      Is that in the uk?

    • @jessieswitalski7025
      @jessieswitalski7025 9 месяцев назад +1

      That's what I thought too. I thought if you had anything on your record and you can't pass a background check, you couldn't have a job like that? It's wild.

    • @IndigoBellyDance
      @IndigoBellyDance 6 месяцев назад

      My thoughts as well

    • @IndigoBellyDance
      @IndigoBellyDance 6 месяцев назад

      @@mistressofmayhem616but they let her pass the bar

  • @LeahRobinson-fg4lu
    @LeahRobinson-fg4lu 9 месяцев назад +31

    The fact that Paul said in the recording " He's resisting" makes me sick. Timothy is dead and Paul's still trying to make him out to be a spoiled brat. I can't stand him.

    • @natashiabertke7789
      @natashiabertke7789 8 месяцев назад +2

      Made me think his ' resistance ' was more like his body being stiff from passing

  • @1997flea
    @1997flea 9 месяцев назад +7

    I’m a new mum, I have a 10 week old and I do sometimes doubt my parenting abilities but watching this and looking over at him sleeping in his cot after his morning feed makes me realise that I have such a happy and healthy baby boy and I’m so grateful. I’m honestly heartbroken for Timothy (I was actually going to call my son timothy after seeing him for the first time) and I now know that I’m going to do anything and everything in my power to be the best mother I can be.

  • @ThatReallyWeirdGirl
    @ThatReallyWeirdGirl 9 месяцев назад +177

    I’m so glad you covered this case. I have autistic twins and I cry for the amount of abuse these children experience

  • @Iowaborn14
    @Iowaborn14 9 месяцев назад +39

    He had such a beautiful smile. My son was hard to deal with and we still never hurt him ...

  • @jackiecostello9301
    @jackiecostello9301 9 месяцев назад +76

    this is genuinely the most sickening story i think i’ve heard. absolutely heartbreaking.

  • @DoriGaga
    @DoriGaga 9 месяцев назад +10

    I can't even imagine the amount of pain that poor baby would have been in, eating that hot sauce. My dad loves spicy food and extreme heat hot sauces, and once, he decided to do this food challenge he heard about at a bar, that was a disclaimer hot wing challenge (the kind they literally make you sign a waiver for, acknowledging the risks). I don't know what kind of peppers they used, but they only served them one at a time, and if you could eat one wing without drinking anything before you finished it, your entire group drank for free all night. My dad didn't even make it halfway through the wing before he had to stop, because he started having severe chest pains almost instantly. He had had a heart attack before, and he said the pain from this wing was worse than that. He ended up at the hospital, and it wasn't a heart attack, but he was still violently ill for three days after that. And he was a grown man, in his mid-40s at the time, who had spent decades building up a tolerance to spicy food, and he has said he actually thought he might die. I can't imagine being a child, with no tolerance for spice, and also completely malnourished and starving, eating that sauce... like, it would be hell for anyone, but the pain he would have felt eating that on an empty stomach would have been a thousand times worse. I don't understand how anyone could even watch that happen, let alone force someone to do it.

  • @abigailsiler7201
    @abigailsiler7201 9 месяцев назад +4

    I have listened to this case coverage on multiple channels but yours is by far the most in depth and provides the most backstory. Thank you for your work!

  • @montanagirl3835
    @montanagirl3835 9 месяцев назад +83

    Disabled people are many times more likely to be abused or killed by their parents or spouses/partners. It's an epidemic that doesn't get talked about nearly enough.

    • @alinam5092
      @alinam5092 9 месяцев назад +5

      I'm not surprised, I appreciate anyone who can put up with a person with mental disabilities even for a day, some of them destroy things, obsessively repeat certain words, scream, use vulgar words, sometimes become violent, it's hell on earth for those around them, it's like locking a normal person in a mental institution, except the "institution" is their home, with no way out. I think it's also the authorities' fault for not offering them more support or proposing to admit them in centers with specialized staff (staff who gets to go home at the end of their shift, they don't have to be there 24/7). Of course, none of these excuse the abuse, I'm just saying that I'm not surprised that in the long term the mental health of the caregivers is affected.

    • @montanagirl3835
      @montanagirl3835 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@alinam5092 Many people abuse disabled people simply because they can, because abusers target more vulnerable people. Simple as that. People don’t want to face that truth but it’s not always “caregiver stress.” Sometimes it’s an able bodied person enjoying the power they have over someone and that’s all, just like any other abuse in which a more powerful person lords it over someone else. Every abuser claims their victims “caused” the abuse somehow. Disabled people are just the only victims in which we buy the abuser’s story.

    • @montanagirl3835
      @montanagirl3835 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@alinam5092 And many people simply decide to abuse disabled people because they are less powerful and more vulnerable. It’s so sad you decided to respond by sympathizing with abusers over victims.

    • @alinam5092
      @alinam5092 9 месяцев назад

      @@montanagirl3835 I actually live in a country where vulnerable people are often victims, recently there have been reports in the press about cases of horrible abuse that take place in elderly care centers all over the country, children are still beaten by teachers in schools, doctors and nurses treat patients very badly (especially if you don't give them money as bribe), mental illnesses are not taken seriously at all and are not treated, there is very little support/infrastructure for people with disabilities, so I know why people are capable if. This doesn't change the fact that some people want to take care of their loved ones, but it is extremely difficult to do it alone, so yes, sometimes they end up going crazy themselves (especially when they know that society and the authorities do not support them in any way). But compared to these people from my country, this woman had the possibility to send the child back to his father or to call the authorities to give them custody of the child (which she didn't have anyway).

    • @alinam5092
      @alinam5092 9 месяцев назад

      @@montanagirl3835 I actually live in a country where vulnerable people are often victims, recently there have been reports in the press about cases of horrible abuse that take place in elderly care centers all over the country, children are still beaten by teachers in schools, doctors and nurses treat patients very badly (especially if you don't give them money as bribe), mental illnesses are not taken seriously at all and are not treated, there is very little support/infrastructure for people with disabilities, so I know why people are capable of. This doesn't change the fact that some people want to take care of their loved ones, but it is extremely difficult to do it alone, so yes, sometimes they end up going crazy themselves (especially when they know that society and the authorities do not support them in any way). But compared to these people from my country, this woman had the possibility to send the child back to her father or to call the authorities to give them custody of the child (which she didn't have anyway).

  • @yukinoloveless2617
    @yukinoloveless2617 9 месяцев назад +62

    They should’ve charged the dad too for him giving the son to her.

  • @alicexx3116
    @alicexx3116 9 месяцев назад +57

    How did she actually think he would not die from a 9 hour ice bath if he was already so weak. Just doesn’t make sense.

    • @robertcomtois2074
      @robertcomtois2074 6 месяцев назад +1

      I had to have an ice bath once to break my fever, can confirm it's agony,

  • @isabellegrou9002
    @isabellegrou9002 9 месяцев назад +7

    I don’t get it. How can a kid just disappear like that. How can no one be asking the dad where his son is and questioning how he can be with his mum? That poor child never stood a chance.

  • @claudiatrapp12
    @claudiatrapp12 9 месяцев назад +3

    This is so very sad. I can't believe this sort of thing goes unnoticed. And what the hell is wrong with those people at the law office? They should have reported what she was saying. They should face charges too.

  • @kimberlyortega6230
    @kimberlyortega6230 9 месяцев назад +112

    Paul was definitely not remorseful , in the phone calls with his stepmom he says he will be out soon and was cocky about only getting a slap on the wrist cause he made a deal. So glad the judge saw that and gave him the 30-100

    • @mykarma4345
      @mykarma4345 9 месяцев назад +5

      Not trying to excuse his behaviour at all but I think he did depend on his mom for housing. And all that surveillance might make it seemed impossible for him to do otherwise. So his defence mechanism would be to de attach himself from all this and just go with it. Hence his saying I didn't love my brother enough. He was acknowledging his selfish survival skills. Also the minute police shows up, Paul has been forthcoming with all the information because now he feel protected and away from his mom.

    • @Bubblegum12345
      @Bubblegum12345 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mykarma4345he’s also super skinny too. Such a tragic case 💔

  • @sundinfamforlife4129
    @sundinfamforlife4129 9 месяцев назад +150

    He may have actually been over eating “sneaking food” as she claimed.
    Because she was starving him and he just wanted food.
    In her trial she mentions he would sneak canned vegetables, frozen nuggets, etc.
    That is not normal behavior from a kid if you actually feed them properly. That’s eating for survival.

    • @lauraanderson8785
      @lauraanderson8785 9 месяцев назад +26

      Exactly, a child who isn't starved would probably go for candy, cookies, etc if they were going to go to the kitchen searching for a snack. Canned veggies and frozen nuggets are something you sneak from the kitchen only if you're desperate for food

    • @sundinfamforlife4129
      @sundinfamforlife4129 9 месяцев назад +16

      @@lauraanderson8785yes, agreed. And the raw hamburger meat she mentions too.
      I have 3 kids that I actually feed properly, they would never eat any of that stuff.
      She says it like it’s normal, but it’s not.
      If they sneak a snack, it’s gotta be chips or cookies. Not raw chicken nuggets.

    • @Blaze-kg2fw
      @Blaze-kg2fw 9 месяцев назад +4

      Not being funny my family fosters and we have seen kids with learning disabilities that eat and eat and eat because there body has no control to tell them there full they would cry for more food even though you know there belly is full they don’t and down the line without professional help those kids could go on to hide food so sometimes it actually is a normal behaviour for that kid not every kid is the same some kids hide food if they do then as a caregiver or parent you should get drs advice and professional advice and guidance but from our family we don’t starve them we kinda spoil them I’m a bad person for it getting takeaways for them every week but at the end of the day kids with some disability’s can sneak food so in some cases it’s normal that’s why social workers can’t just take the kids and social workers jobs ain’t to take your kids away from you it’s there jobs to work with you to help you look after your kids and give them the best opportunity’s social workers get it hard but they can’t just go in and take a kid there’s a lot to it just imagine your a social worker and your in a case like this without knowing that the kids are being abused but you got to go and see and make the decisions yourself but also without blaming the parents of actually abusing there kids incase it could be a fall injury but in those split seconds you got to make the decisions even though it’s your job to protect children it’s not as easy as it seems abusers hide abuse really well and can explain away things like cuts I think social workers should be allowed to work with hospitals and if they see a suspicious Bruise or cut on the child that they legally have the rights to call the drs or hospital up and get the child checked but again abuse is very well hidden even if you specialise in it there are a lot of clumsy children out there and some kids do lie or over exaggerate things that social services legally have to look into even if accusations are false and proven the kid lies they still need to investigate just remember there not police they don’t have the technology that police have so it is mostly observations and as a person blaming the social workers after it’s happened you can’t blame anyone but the person who’s caused the abuse

    • @sundinfamforlife4129
      @sundinfamforlife4129 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Blaze-kg2fw I can understand the over eating from the autism stand point. It was more what he was eating. Raw nuggets not even cooked, canned veggies again not heated just straight out of the can, raw hamburger meat not cooked into taco meat or anything just raw.

    • @sundinfamforlife4129
      @sundinfamforlife4129 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Blaze-kg2fw I was adopted when I was 5. I am glad I got away from my biological parents but unfourtanly not every kids as lucky. I can thank my older sister for that, as she reported our father was SAing her at 5 because she didn’t want it to happen to my twin sister and I.
      I wish every kid was but like you said abuse sometimes is hidden and they keep the kid very isolated so the child can’t report the abuse.

  • @Al-Vr-al
    @Al-Vr-al 9 месяцев назад +84

    Do I know this case by word at this point? - Yes
    Am I still watching Danielle's take on it? - Yes of course

  • @gameplaygirl3268
    @gameplaygirl3268 9 месяцев назад +14

    This is one of the most horrific cases I've heard. That poor little boy. Makes me feel so sick to even think of everything he went through.

  • @Rhedd30
    @Rhedd30 9 месяцев назад +7

    If she was telling me this Id be in jail for murder.

  • @rushiaj1222
    @rushiaj1222 9 месяцев назад +29

    I don’t feel bad for Paul. He could have snuck his brother food or just told his mom he did punishments but not. He could have told someone, ANYONE. His sick mother turned him into exactly what she was A Monster. It sucks that he was abused but that doesn’t give you the excuse to hurt others, especially your own brother

  • @sharoneckersall5419
    @sharoneckersall5419 9 месяцев назад +38

    I haven't got to the end yet, but I have to say as a retired Police Officer this is one of the worse
    cases of child abuse I have ever heard. I hope Paul gets life without parole & Shanda gets the death penalty, which is actually too good for her.

  • @holliea2412
    @holliea2412 9 месяцев назад +24

    As a mother with a child on the sprectrum this breaks my heart. RIP Timothy ❤

  • @ninarenee3956
    @ninarenee3956 9 месяцев назад +15

    I think I disassociated this entire episode.
    I have a 18 month old son and there are no words. I can’t speak there is nothing I can even say.

  • @selenaaah
    @selenaaah 9 месяцев назад +15

    As an older sibling, we don’t claim him

  • @bloodhoney13
    @bloodhoney13 9 месяцев назад +56

    I wish people like this couldn't have children. It's unfair. I have fertility issues but have taken in my nephew as my own because his mother isn't mentally capable of being a loving one. Cases like this get to me because of what I've experienced having to protect my nephew from his mother. I don't understand how someone can be so evil and cruel to children.

  • @spazzypengin
    @spazzypengin 9 месяцев назад +33

    Sorry to hear about the illness! I only recently found your channel and, as a 36 year old man who has been doing makeup for about 2 months now, I really enjoy watching you to get ideas for myself!

  • @IS_THIS_CHRIS
    @IS_THIS_CHRIS 9 месяцев назад +16

    Being abused as a child is not an excuse for being abusive to others later in life! It made me hyper aware of how I treat others, especially my kids. If anything I tend to be too accommodating and lenient so I don't ever cause them to ever feel like I did.

  • @alexandsmith1985
    @alexandsmith1985 9 месяцев назад +2

    30:26 - Giving up now. Can't listen to the rest. This is so sad. I look at the picture of this smiling boy and it just makes me so sad.

  • @johnwhite1356
    @johnwhite1356 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is so sad. My heart breaks for poor little Timothy, so much suffering, and no-where, and no-one to turn for help. Just days of suffering with not even a glimmer of joy.

  • @Rhaenys888
    @Rhaenys888 9 месяцев назад +74

    My son has autism and GDD and my worst nightmare is anyone mistreating him you will never meet a more pure trusting innocent soul than my son and my heart breaks so badly for Timothy he deserved a mummy who loved him 💔 😢

    • @Summer09824
      @Summer09824 9 месяцев назад +2

      My twins are 4.5 non verbal & autistic and this is my worst nightmare too..because they couldn’t tell me what’s wrong 😢

  • @Stubbornclarity
    @Stubbornclarity 9 месяцев назад +19

    How can anyone do such heinous things to a child? Its mind boggling!

  • @susanbrown7411
    @susanbrown7411 9 месяцев назад +31

    I feel so deeply for the helpless who are abused (animals and children) that i can't comprehend how anyone that could help wouldn't. It brings me to tears. Real tears. Not like Shanda's. I can even less comprehend being the perpetrator of such abuse. I would rather die than be involved in anything like this.

  • @jacquelineklein9152
    @jacquelineklein9152 8 месяцев назад +3

    I wish I could go back in time, hug Timothy and save him from this abuse. So so heartbreaking how anyone can treat another living soul this horribly.

  • @meladeekunkel5880
    @meladeekunkel5880 6 месяцев назад +5

    The FAKE cries and the FAKE vomit in court really took the cake. Yet she accused Timothy of FAKING everything. Dispicable. She even blamed Timothy for his own death. It's so unfathomable what Timothy suffered through.

  • @brittanyhendricks350
    @brittanyhendricks350 9 месяцев назад +21

    I cried multiple times while watching this one. I have no words this is just the worst true crime case I’ve ever heard.

  • @jackalina91
    @jackalina91 9 месяцев назад +80

    I was S.A for 9 years from 3 until 12 years. Mostly on a daily basis by my step grandfather as I was mostly living with them. I had to put myself into therapy for 5 years when my daughter turned 3 because I couldn’t let her out of my sight -big surprise 🙄 I would sooner die by a rusty & blunt knife attack than abuse a child. I cannot ever understand how & why my family let it happen. Or how people like me abuse children themselves.
    Love watching you always Danielle!
    🤷‍♀️♥️♥️♥️✌️

    • @CouncilEstateRach
      @CouncilEstateRach 9 месяцев назад +8

      I am so so sorry for what you were put through. No one should endure what you had to.
      I hope things are better now for you and that therapy has enabled you to not constantly re-live what you went through and that you and yr daughter are OK.
      Thank you for speaking out to show people that abused people can go on not to become abusers but wonderful kinda nd caring people who love and adore their children, always putting them first.
      Thank you. And again I'm so sorry. My admiration for you is huge. Xxx

    • @doublelitzel
      @doublelitzel 9 месяцев назад +4

      i’m so sorry my love you’re such a powerful person for using your pain and turning it into protection absolute respect you are the mother you deserved as much as it pains to think that you should’ve had someone like you in your life i’m glad your mini you does i pray you live a happy, healthy, peaceful and loving rest of your life as you deserve it you’re such a great mama bear don’t ever forget it 🫀👑❤️‍🩹

    • @jackalina91
      @jackalina91 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@doublelitzel thank you for your lovely words of support
      😎♥️♥️♥️✌️

    • @jackalina91
      @jackalina91 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@CouncilEstateRach thank you so much. More than anything else I just wanted to say in my opinion being abused & then looking into a child’s eyes as you do the same god awful things to them would be like the worst punishment hell could inflict.
      I understand not being able to trust anyone & ruining relationships because of it but hurting a child?
      🤷‍♀️♥️♥️♥️✌️

    • @JarlBalgruff_
      @JarlBalgruff_ 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm so sorry for what you went through. You're one of the kindred souls out there and a very strong woman.. many women wouldn't do the same as you did, my mom's one of them....
      I'm glad you healed and addressed your trauma. Your children will thank you and love you forever. Stay strong, mama bear

  • @jeanschuler3445
    @jeanschuler3445 9 месяцев назад +20

    I live in this town. It’s crazy that things like this happen right under our noses. It’s disgusting and terrifying.

  • @xionnights13
    @xionnights13 9 месяцев назад +3

    Her doing CPR on the call reminds me of Paris Bennett when he was faking CPR on his sister- this case of Timothy has been the worst child abuse case I’ve heard. I hope his “mom” meets a similar fate of her son

  • @Servo1616
    @Servo1616 9 месяцев назад +15

    For those not in the US: Liberty University is a very Christian school here. Fundamentalist, I think.
    I wish I could say I was shocked Shanda went there. She seems like "One of Those Fundamentalists" (TM). Not all religious people are like that by any means, but I met some harsh ones when I was in the church for sure.
    Other trivia for you: Letecia Stauch, who murdered her stepson Gannon then proceeded to come up with a ton of lies about it, also attended Liberty University

    • @LizStaples
      @LizStaples 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yep Fundamentalist. Super messed up stuff

  • @iir.3.7
    @iir.3.7 9 месяцев назад +38

    “He didnt love his brother enough, and he loves him more now” damn. Such a tragic case, i actually just have no words. No other case has ever gotten to me like this, i have literally been balling my eyes out for twenty minutes straight. How can a mother be this terrific? I wish i couldve given little timy a big hug and a healthy meal. I wish he knew the concept of love even for just a moment. May god punish this despicable evil creature.

    • @aprilholton1150
      @aprilholton1150 9 месяцев назад +5

      You wrote terrific, I think you meant horrific!! lol

  • @infinitygirl92
    @infinitygirl92 9 месяцев назад +46

    The fact that she was heard talking to Paul and instructing him on how to abuse Timothy right in front of her colleagues should've been an instant red flag. To me, the red flag would've been when she didn't use Timothy's name. All of her colleagues had plenty of opportunities to stop this abuse, but they decided to turn a blind eye.

    • @mistressofmayhem616
      @mistressofmayhem616 9 месяцев назад +2

      The psychopath was REAL careful with her wording!!! 😅 She of all people knew in the back of her head she could & would use Paul as her scapegoat.

    • @JarlBalgruff_
      @JarlBalgruff_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm not trying to defend them or anything, but when you hear things out of context or stuff, it's mostly like "oh, she's a strict disciplinarian." You can't really phone someone in just cuz they said a few suspicious things in the phone. They probably had no idea that she CCTV'd the house to oblivion, that creature didn't, plus, even if they said some things that are morally reprehensible, it would most probably be chalked off as "Look at Steve, what a weirdo" at best.
      Not saying that they are not without fault, but I can understand why no one came forward. It's pretty embarrassing to be the one who starts a drama, and then it turns out to be nothing. Besides, you don't come across horrific cases like this everyday, they probably knew something went on.

    • @MomoDearestt
      @MomoDearestt 9 месяцев назад +1

      This poor child..my heart is aching listening to this. 😢

  • @EilishAdeline
    @EilishAdeline 9 месяцев назад +47

    I'm in the US, nobody even heard about this case until it was already at trial. It was strange. My question is WHERE is his Father???? Like really? This poor child had NO chance.

    • @samuelwolch1302
      @samuelwolch1302 9 месяцев назад +9

      I mean it was obvious. He gave zero shits about his child, so even if he was aware of the abuse, I have my doubts he would’ve intervened. The sperm donor (he doesn’t deserve to be called a father) made it clear he didn’t want anything to do with Timothy or his care -or lack there of in this case- which in itself is sickening.

  • @taylorannh24
    @taylorannh24 9 месяцев назад +7

    As a teacher, this truly breaks my heart and I honestly fear for my students but I always fill them with as much food and love and whatever will meet their needs and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.

  • @alicedaisy612
    @alicedaisy612 9 месяцев назад +6

    This case broke my heart, I’m a mom of 5 my eldest son is autistic and my 6 year old and 4 year old are being assessed for autism now and are thriving with all the support they have which I have fought so hard for them to get. I don’t know how people can be so evil 😢

  • @TracyNeeCee
    @TracyNeeCee 9 месяцев назад +121

    Those Dorothy from "The Wizard of Oz" braids couldn't save this monster!!

    • @helenhellsbells3170
      @helenhellsbells3170 9 месяцев назад +12

      I know I couldn't take her seriously with that hair style 😂

    • @AlexandraBolz
      @AlexandraBolz 9 месяцев назад +11

      I’m dead with how you described her braids 😂 But yeah for real you’re right.

    • @christinarutkosky1313
      @christinarutkosky1313 9 месяцев назад +12

      She was probably trying to prove her innocence with those braids which didn't help her case either way

  • @laurentaylor5319
    @laurentaylor5319 9 месяцев назад +10

    This is probably one of the darkest cases you've done Danielle. Honestly this made me cry 😭

  • @rachels3989
    @rachels3989 9 месяцев назад +8

    He deserved so much better. All children deserve parents who love them. What Timothy went through is just so beyond awful. I’m in tears for that poor baby who should have been given love and care.

  • @RebPisani
    @RebPisani 9 месяцев назад +4

    I watched a different youtuber cover this, and as always, it is clear how much research you put into every case, ❤ . You show the pattern of ,the warning signs, but still make it clear being abused is not a free pass to go on and abuse. I was terribly abused as a child ,it was not until I became a mom that I became sicken by my moms attacks. I can't imagine ever hurting my son...now as a grandmother, seeing my son filled with love for his daughter , I feel blessed the pattern was broken.

  • @gissellerivera7495
    @gissellerivera7495 9 месяцев назад +4

    I couldnt help but cry when I heard about this case . It made so many horrible memories from my childhood resurface. I had an incredible abusive mother, being the oldest of the 3 siblings I willingly took the beatings to spare my siblings. This wemt on for years . The punishments were so bad I had skin graphs done on my knees after we were adopted. The worst punishments were when she would rip my nails off with pilers. Im 32 years old and still battle with PTSD . But just like Timothy we were starved, saddest part was our grandparents would send boxes of food in the mail with our favorite snacks and we never even got crumbs. I'm beyond grateful that we got a chance at happiness and a family who has loved us from the start. I hope that poor child has found the peace & serenity he was deprived of in this world 🥺🖤

  • @heathercarroll9243
    @heathercarroll9243 9 месяцев назад +5

    The last words that poor boy heard, on top of everything else. It’s heartbreaking and blood boiling at the same time. The audacity of both to blame Timothy, my God!!!

  • @TlingitVille
    @TlingitVille 9 месяцев назад +12

    This is one of those cases that leaves you feeling like you have no words, but so many come to mind all at once. I think she should get the same exact treatment that she so joyfully doled out on Timothy. I could only dream. I hope wherever Timothy went next, that he is happy and free. Poor, sweet boy.

  • @jesshover995
    @jesshover995 9 месяцев назад +51

    So glad to see your feeling a bit better. Iv heard of this case it's another example of all children deserve parents but not all parent deserves children! Breaks my heart what some people do to they own children!

    • @melindaroop1346
      @melindaroop1346 9 месяцев назад +3

      Especially extra vulnerable children. I love all of mine, but I am more protective of my son who is autistic. I'd do anything to keep him safe and lie awake at night, worrying about him if something happens to me.

    • @jesshover995
      @jesshover995 9 месяцев назад +2

      My boy the same I could never imagine rasing my voice to him let alone hurt him or anything other children!

  • @alietheartist734
    @alietheartist734 9 месяцев назад +9

    There was a moment when you mentioned she graduated law school that I was like OMG it’s her! There was a totally bonkers lady on a law student forum a few years back who was everything they’re describing, off the wall politics and all. I have a sneaking suspicion this might be her.

  • @taralesinski8710
    @taralesinski8710 9 месяцев назад +4

    I have watched other videos about this case, but I’ve got to say, your storytelling and the amount of detail is amazing! I learned so many new details thanks to your video! ❤

  • @kweenz109
    @kweenz109 9 месяцев назад +96

    Dad should be charged too

    • @meghay7250
      @meghay7250 9 месяцев назад +10

      ​@jadepierce656 dad was supposed to have full custody of him. He neglected him also whilst living there & he made him go live with his mother that is not allowed custody.

    • @j.g.christiansen6878
      @j.g.christiansen6878 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@jadepierce656I think you are confusing two different people.
      The biological dad & his new wife (Timothy's stepmother) was indeed abusing him (phsysical punishments & mistreatment), when he was living with them. After a while he "had enough" of his son, and sent him to his ex-wife (Timothy's biological mother Shanda), who he known was abusive, because the court ordered she can't be around her children. That's why the biological dad should also be punished. He did abuse his son & possibly his other children.
      It was the stepfather (Shanda's new husband) who didn't participate in the abuse. But he had to move to Florida, because he had a stroke, and had to recover from it. That's when the abuse of Timothy became even more extreme, because Shanda didn't need to hide anymore how evil she was from her husband (the stepfather).

    • @jadepierce656
      @jadepierce656 9 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@j.g.christiansen6878you litterally hear no "proof" of him abusing his kids... After the kids went back living with their mom that's when the abuse accured also i am talking about the dad who had a stroke and moved to florida (he did not particpate) maybe the stepfather yes but the biological dad... Also the stepfather maybe did particpate in abuse but not enough to be arrested for it

    • @j.g.christiansen6878
      @j.g.christiansen6878 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@jadepierce656 Please listen to the video from 17:50, that's where Danielle starts talking about the abuse & neglect Timothy and his siblings endured from his biological father, until he moved to his biological mother where he endured even more abuse.
      The one, who moved to Florida after the stroke was his stepfather, they weren't related in any way, Timothy was not his son, and there is no proof he abused the little boy.
      I'm not saying the father should be convicted for the little boys murder, as he didn't have a part in that, but he did broke the law by sending his kid to a convicted abuser & neglected the same kid while he was in his custody.

    • @jadepierce656
      @jadepierce656 9 месяцев назад

      @@j.g.christiansen6878 then the top comment should have been more clear, your litterally saying the samething as me YES i know timothy was abused more by the mom, yes i did get them confused but for the biological dad there was probably not enough evidence to arrest him for the abuse since the video only talks about the mom and her older son being the really abusive ones... Relisten to danielle talking about Eric, it was POSSIABLE he was abusing timothy he was just neglecting him

  • @suetruter8086
    @suetruter8086 9 месяцев назад +27

    The father should also get prison time - he knew she wasn't allowed to be their guardian!

  • @sunnybearbuds
    @sunnybearbuds 9 месяцев назад +15

    I'm glad you did this case; I saw her testimony; she's an absolute monster.

  • @Gingerjess89
    @Gingerjess89 9 месяцев назад +4

    Poor baby 😢 no matter how many times i hear this case, i cannot believe what im hearing. Danielle, as per, you covered this with the emotion it deserves, and gave dignity to Timothy, as you do all victims. I am not a religious person but I truly hope for Timothy's sake, there is something when we go. He deserves an eternity of love.