Notice how Suzanne went thru just as much (if not worse) than Franklin did in his childhood, yet she didn't go sexually abusing or hurting others. Almost like sicko offenders use that as an excuse. I've been sexually assaulted & abused multiple times, never had the urge to victimize someone else.
Yeah I’m just amazed how there are reports that Suzanne was still very generous, kind and smart while going through all that horrific trauma. That just shows it’s not an excuse.
Straight up, they're all excuses. The rest seem to rest on "the voices told me to do it" or "I was depressed" that BS too, mental illness doesn't equate to violence either.
They do use it as an excuse to try make themselves the victim but they are lying scumbags.. I also was s. abused and I am more infuriated by s. abuse than anyone.. I literally cry when someone steps on an ant accidentally… a lot of people that go through pain at a young age end up being more empathetic than the average person, big/good hearted
Children were less valued back then is what I’ve been told, also passing bad checks was looked on as a pretty serious crime. She must have had more than one bad check to do jail time though! It’s amazing what you could get away with back then without amber alerts, cameras everywhere etc…..
Because the us doesn’t care about pedophilia. The us is the number one producer of child pornography in the world. It’s close to a billion dollar Industry. It’s sick.
The justice system is so screwed up, a drug dealer whose killed people with laced drugs will get 9 months and a women who killed her abuser will get life
@@tessagahart8664THIS. Pedophiles do NOT deserve reproductive rights. Hell, remove the entirety of the organ for all I care. Obviously they were never using it responsibly.
It reminds me of the TV show Finding Carter where a girl living her happy life with her mom finds out at 15yo that she was actually stolen from a front yard, and her re-integrating into her 'real' family. Though it doesn't go anywhere as depraved as this case does obviously. But it's an interesting watch for sure, because if someone has been your mom since you can remember, finding out she's not at 15yo and being ripped out of your life to 'fix' what never seemed broken to you? I imagine reintegrating is HARD.
Yeah, the whole time I was thinking if someone had taken my little one. And I went through all those years thinking she was dead, then learning that it was arguably a lot worse.
Honestly, I am horrified that he had gotten out of prison after the first assault. A FOUR YEAR OLD got r-ped and he just gets off with 10 to 20 years?! The justice system is broken, and this repulsive monster is proof.
In US, because of overcrowded of the jail, usually the perpetrator will get parole after served 1/3 of the sentence, if the court didn't mention no parole. He was sentence to 30 years (10 years of the rape, extra 15 years for the escape, and extra 5 years for voiding the bail ) if he didn't escape, for 10 years sentences, he will be released after 3.5 years, yes, just 3.5 years, for a sexual predator.
@chanchanchu4630 wow, the same in a lot of countries now. Due to overcrowding people left out early not just due to good behavior. Look at the UK with new laws to let people who committed certain crimes out early to help them rehabilitate better.
As her friend at the club said, "Suzanne would've made an incredible survivor", and it's true, she would have. Considering how well she managed to function while trapped in an actually hellish environment. Suzanne was exceptional and I hate that she never got the opportunity to live free of that monster, with her beloved son.
I saw the documentary and honestly, Heather (the dancer) seemed like such a kick ass lady to be around. Knew how the club worked and tried to give Suzanne an easy job and start her off simple, and did her best to try and separate Suzanne from Floyd from her position
They immediately arrest a struggling mother who’s cheque bounced when she’s trying to buy things for her children but dont arrest a man who’s accused of harassment with a history of pedophilia and sexual assault and escaping prison? sounds about right
The mother has given several stories about being arrested on the hot check warrant, "buying diapers" is a greatest hit. She got 30 days for the hot check because she had an arrest history for prostitution and drugs. It has been established the mother tried to sell two of her girls. This gave Franklin the idea he could monetize the children, which he did, selling off the youngest (the boy whose identity was determined in 2020) after the mother's arrest. There's quite a bit of circumstantial evidence the birth mother sold Suzanne to Franklin.
@Alissa Rios yes, but they gave him TOO many chances! He NEVER should've been released so early from prison & for DAMN sure never released on bond after only being out of prison for pedophilia when he was arrested & charged trying to kidnap someone else! So, regardless the op wasn't just talking about strictly leaving the kids w\them when the Mom went to jail. Just seems like the authorities were tougher on a Mom for bouncing checks trying to get supplies for babies, & the predator got EVERY break! It's frustrating, sickening, maddening, & atrocious!
@@louis5094 refer to my above comment. This isn't a dumb comment. He got EVERY break as an adult. (Not as a kid, where he had a very very bad deal) so, yes, at the time Mom was arrested they didn't KNOW who he was, but the injustice STILL hits hard. Bc they punished her rather severely, & he got let out early & released on bond after offending only a month after being released. & They let him out on bond when he had a history of escaping & running. So, maybe YOU weren't paying attention. I find it's best not to go around insulting ppl but if that's who you are, good for you.
Imagining how Suzanne's mother felt after hearing the news 40 years later that she was right and this all could've been stopped if the police had taken her seriously then... So heartbreaking and I'm so glad you told this one.
Just because yhe police don't help you does not mean you give up and stop looking for your child. There are still so many things her mother could have done to find her kids.
@@marybritt4412 we don’t know if she stopped looking, but we know she doesn’t have access to the same advanced tools to be as successful as the police.
@@marybritt4412 back in the day with no social media, she'd have had limited finances and the 2 children she got back to look after, she would have been fighting a losing battle and as others said, you don't know what she did try and was doing to find them that whole time - just because it's not included here. Not to mention how many people were involved in this whole thing and tried to help and not one single one of them had success. The only reason this scumbag was even caught is because it appears he appears to have been so confident in his power due how long and how much he'd blatently got away with, he believed he could kidnap a child and head teacher from school. You seem to forget, the police were searching for him for years and only got a heads up when he accidently gave his real social security number. If they couldn't find, what hope do you think she had!!!
This case gave me goosebumps. It also made me emotional. Franklin died January 23, 2023. Knowing that he lived that long after killing and doing what he did is crazy
So much devastation from a single man. What gets me is the fact that he was able to find friends to abuse her. This makes me think that so many men are predators. This is insane. He should’ve been reported the minute he offered her to anyone. How thriving Susan could’ve been if she had a good environment. This is all so infuriating. All of this happened in the open and no one did anything. The fact that all of this happened for so long is absolutely insane.
That's because so many men are. They have lots of women joining them too but yeah still 9/10 of them are gonna be men. Sometimes I think that something's missing on the Y chromosome, something to do compassion and with understanding the consequences of one's actions.
This one really got to me. The fact he robbed her of her childhood, teenage hood and into adulthood. Stole her innocence, her hopes and dreams. Her whole entire LIFE. Then her son.. This is one of the worst cases I have ever seen. 😢
Oh my!!! What about the abuse he endured? What about the terror he faced every day by everyone who was supposed to take care of him. What about his life stolen? You people make me shake my head in disgust. Abuse breeds abuse!
Being an overachiever is actually one of many reactions to abuse. So it’s really no way to judge a healthy child. It’s such a shame Susan had to live like this for so long. Very sad that no one was able to help despite recognizing that something was wrong.
God bless her, I am sure she didn't even know what to compare a healthy life to, with what she was going thru. I am sure that she thought her life was just like everyone else's. This world we live in is so scary.
The fact that he got away with all of this after having the first offense of r****g a 4 year old is insane. The fact that he got out at all is honestly just crazy to me.
pedophiles should have some of the harshest sentences around the world but sadly children are considered property from far too many and cannot vote so they are not protected like they should be....
It is so easy to sit back and say "why didn't she tell someone" but when you live a life clouded by so much fear you end up spending more time worrying about making sure nothing goes wrong and you make it through that 1 day without making them mad. R.I.P Suzanne and Michael
These kidnapped children rarely tell anyone. Especially in Suzanne case she was so little when she was taken. Let's face it this guy was terrifying. If she had told someone he would have killed her sooner
in all honesty bein taken so young she probably thought all of tht was normal after awhile it was her day to day life 😢 and she knew no the wiser her mind could have even put out the memory of her birth family too full on Stockholm syndrome has by far been the worst story ive come across as more and more stuff was revealed i could only say it couldnt get any worst 😢
An entire life of abuse. Beginning to end. My heart is so broken for Suzanne, Michael, and all the victims of this monster. Truly so angering and heartbreaking to think people do this to innocent children.
@@DrSidd-846 her mother didn’t care about her, at all. She literally gave up and even told her two daughters that their little brother was dead, she is a cold hearted woman and she knew way more than she is saying, she probably sold them to him, nasty witch
@@DrHorribleishere12 wait I think there is confusion, I am commending the girl Franklin kidnapped, Michael's mother... I thought her name was Suzanne, if it wasn't then I would like to clarify its the kidnapped 4 year old I am talking about.
@@DrSidd-846 I’m talking about Suzanne mother, not Suzanne aka the girl who was kidnapped at age 4 and who was ran over by this sicko. The mother didn’t care her daughter, she went one time to the police and never went back or force them to do something. She told the remaining two daughters that their son, Suzanne brother, was dead but he was found alive and adopted out, he was found in 2021. Suzanne herself was an amazing mother and I know she gave up her other children to protect them from this sicko. I was school would have tried harder to save the boy, they gave Michael away way too easily. Principal cared about his own life not Michael, he should have been charged
@@DrHorribleishere12 oh I see what you mean, but I didn't judge Suzanne's mum to be a monster, after all this was the 1970's and there wasn't so much technology to help police too much considering Franklin was moving states and changing names all the time. At that time, police would literally scout out and just ask around for clues, which would be almost useless. Plus, if you remember, the mother was already broke, which is how she ended up going to jail, which I believe Franklin somehow set her up for in order to kidnap the girl. Plus, she did go out initially when she got out and all her kids were missing. All I'm saying is that I too am a mother, and there were lots of realities that could have gotten in the way. It would have been nice if they could have reunited, even if the mother didn't care as we assume at least Suzanne and Michael would have been happy. As for telling her kids the brother is dead, well, again, sometimes as a parent it can be very frustrating and difficult to explain to kids what's happened. I don't want to assume she didn't try hard enough, we don't know what she tried or how much because the story wasn't about her.
I don’t mean at all to trivialize this but Suzanne just amazes me. She, to me, embodies what I have always thought of as a main quality in Disney princess characters. Unshakable light that shines no matter the horribleness that surrounds them. Continuing to be kind and true to themselves despite a monster’s presence doing everything it can to stamp that light out. Most people -understandably- become hardened, untrusting, mean, even repeat the treatment they were given. Suzanne’s unbreakable light seems almost otherworldly to me. I hope she is resting in peace with her baby Michael.
I was thinking the same thing, extremely unreal qualities that are so respectable and it's just so tragic that any of this had to happen to her. My heart fell to the ground listening to how her dreams were torn apart from her only to be forced into sex work. So, so heartbreaking
I'm doubting you made it to the end of the video. If it's because you couldn't handle learning about this true life story's first half, I doubt anyone who saw the second half would say you could have made it to the end.
@@Savvy. There's no proof she turned out to be a decent human being. A decent human being would have been one that turned him in a long time ago to protect others. A brainwashed enabler really wouldn't know what decency is. A study of political IDEOLOGIES is proof enough.
@@Savvy. Also, the original commenter's opinion implies the person survived. The only reason evil Frank got caught was because he was so sociopathic he walked into a school and held a principal at gunpoint to kidnap a child.
What a heartbreaking case. One of the worst, the saddest, the most angering cases I’ve heard. If only the police would have looked for him when he kidnapped Suzanne and her siblings this could have ended years ago. A step parent absolutely can not take your child. They are not the legal guardians unless they formally adopt the child. That was just ridiculous.
Sadly the laws back then allowed things like that. They were very backward and so not child friendly. They didn't have the child protection laws we do now, it was because of cases like this and others that we do. But there needs to be more done to protect children.
Yes , I think exactly the same and also having a dad a veteran come on where was he ? Traumatized for the war and made her own daughter suffer worse than him i blem him he should keep the sibling when he was asked for, the had to suit the police do more for their children
Yes, it's so crazy! Bc now a step parent has no rights! They can't even get a child seem by the Dr w\o permission! I just can't believe the police wouldn't even look back then! I think that's why it took so long for the fbi to find out who she really was bc there was never an Amber Alert (or the equivalent at that time bc Amber Alerts weren't created yet.) But if there was a search & notice in the papers about that little girl being missing besides just a comment in a police report they never went anywhere, they'd have made the connection. I truly hope this thing couldn't happen so easily these days. I'm not naive, I know terrible things like this still happen. But hopefully, it's not as easy to change identity & get documents verifying birth, social, etc now. You pretty much need dna to do anything now it seems like (an exaggeration yes. But who knows how long b4 we actually are required to keep dna on file for everyone! )
@@malisashutt6231 The "authorities", including police and social services, repeatedly fail those they are meant to protect. I was one of the "lucky ones", I escaped foster care and stayed on the run for 6 years. It was '89 and nobody believed me, that I was being raped and beaten. When I ran away from that the authorities didn't believe me and tried to send me back. I was like NOPE, and stayed a runaway after that.
@@hazelcox3002 Why do you think that is, and that people are still to this day getting weak sentenced for the worst possible crime? This world is saturated with, and run by, pedophiles. They in a way help each other get away with heinous things like this because they're depraved.
The story with Jenny at the sleepover is devastating. She was AMAZING during the trial. Suzanne and Michael deserved so much more out of life. Sending all my love to the families affected by this vile infected toe fungus.
The fact that Franklin was able to murder Suzanne in the hospital is so infuriating. Obviously everything in this case is, but this just drives me crazy. Even if there wasn’t any solid evidence to back Suzanne’s friend’s claims that her “husband” was going to murder her, the authorities should have had security guarding her in the hospital just in case! Suzanne was hit by a car and left for dead which is already suspicious, then you add on the fact that her loved ones are desperately pleading for help protecting her from her potentially violent and murderous “husband”! That’s not enough to at least make sure that the friend’s claims weren’t true? Her death was so unbelievably avoidable. The fact that Franklin has not suffered any consequences for ending an innocent woman’s life is so disturbing. Suzanne was going to recover, then the hospital staff were suspicious of her “husband”, then her friends reached out for help to try and protect her, then no one did anything and Franklin visited and she ends up dead. I feel so awful for everyone who was close to this case. The whole thing really is an unspeakable tragedy. I can only hope that every day Franklin is alive is filled with the most pain and unbearable suffering imaginable, and that it continues after he dies.
One of your best episodes yet. You covered such a lengthy and heartbreaking case with such tact and respect. I only wish there had been a happy ending for Michael.
The horror of this case began when Franklin was abused as a child. Child abuse has such a terrible ripple effect that touches generations to follow stop child abuse and we will significantly impact all kinds of crime.
Can't agree enough, Its a cycle and one that is rarely ever broken. all it takes is ONE person to make a report, and keep reporting for action to be taken..
@@missiecombs4807 It's definitely not an excuse, but it is an explanation. Not all people who are abused continue the cycle, but a lot do. Many abusers were abused themselves. This obviously doesn't excuse their actions, but it is something to be considered.
@@missiecombs4807 not every victim has support. Franklin was abused by multiple people. His entire life was abuse and violence during the most crucial times of development. His entire life was survival mode.
@@JinkaB0o that is actually a myth, created by pop psychology from the last century and maintained by popular culture. This case is horrific and I fully believe that in this case Franklin's own childhood traumas are a big contributor. However, most of the people who grew up in an abusive situation end up trying as best as they can to become the best parents, partners, etc.
The level of respect you show in these cases is beyond touching. I just honestly feel such respect for you in turn for being able to do what you do in such a touching and dignified way. All the love and please take care of yourself too! x
i once saw a youtuber talking about crime n beauty vids and was calling danielle out about mentioning the murders zodiac signs like ??? dnaielle is my fave and shes always so sensitive about the cases shes so respectful and empathetic
@@poojawhatisthisbehavior2090 i saw that too!! it was so weird like there are literally STUDIES about zodiac signs and how many of them are killers. people always find a problem about something in the true crime community. danielle is super respectful about it and it’s not like she bashes people with the same zodiac sign as a criminal.
@Better Together exactly... then u think it cant get worse then I see muck bangers or doing true crime I saw one video for a minute & that ended that it was so disgusting & disrespectful that I hope they get rid of those kind...hioe u enjoying u Sunday!!
I hope this monster rots in hell for all eternity. Everyone let this girl down incl herself. Her mother was & always will be worthless. It’s her fault, as well as his, for bringing him into their lives in the 1st place.😡
@@MademoiselleIcelfly his fault for sure, but how was the mother supposed to know about his malicious intentions? How would anyone expect something as crazy as your step husband kidnapping your children and putting them through private adoption, and keeping another for the sole reason of abusing them? She could have done something when she got those weird vibes from him but she is not on par with Franklin.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he kidnapped her at a young age. He groomed her to the point where she couldn't run away from him. Loyalty is not engineered, it is nurtured. It's disgusting what he did to this girl.
My mother remembered them when they were in Kentucky. Her and my step-dad owned a bar. They presented themselves as a couple. When she read the book it was just heartbreaking. It was just horrible knowing what this young lady went through and that no one protected her ever
@@M5TABBYCAT She remembered them. They stood out to her but in the business my parents were in people passed through frequently, make some money and then they moved on
For anyone wondering Franklin Delano Floyd died in prison of natural causes January 2023 according to an attorney who had worked on his case. I assume that they never set an execution date out of hope that he would eventually confess where Michael's body is. But it appears he never did. How he evaded capture for so long and got away with so many things for so long is truly shameful. I would almost feel for him for what he experienced in his childhood if he hadnt of turned into such a disgusting monster. To his victims, I am so sorry for what he did and how you were let down by so many RIP.
Of course he did, they never put these disgusting men into the punishment they've been given. They let them appeal over and over. Hell naw, you've been proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, die.
After the first violent crime, they never should've given him bail. The system is terrible. He ruined so many lives. All they had to do was keep him in jail. This is just so heartbreaking.
Edit: i stayed away for a few days since reactions tend to vary and they can make me feel not so good, but uh, as you may notice, im not good at replying apparently and all of them are at the bottom now. >.> Anyway. Thank you so much. The support and kindness shown here brought me to tears. It actually makes me feel much stronger than i have in a long time. I hope positively finds all of you beautiful souls. The world is much better with each of you in it. Not gonna lie, this story hit different. I was kidnapped for seven years of my life. I went to school, I tried to tell therapists, and so many people let me down. I wish I had a way to connect with other women who went through things like that. Sometimes things are frustrating and confusing still.
I’m so sorry to hear this but why don’t you set up a fb page or something where other people that have gone through this and survived can connect. Once you’ve got so many people you can arrange meetings but if I was you for safety reasons make sure it’s in a public area so renting a room in a hotel etc you could even have a donate button where people can donate and the money used to help other people who need help after going through such a horrific situation. But if you can’t find one why not start one yourself to connect with other survivors and who knows you might end up being able to advise therapists and other people about kidnapping and helping other people. I don’t mean to over - step but if you can’t find any other places there’s no reason why you can’t set one up yourself and be there to help others as well as yourself. You could be the change that needs to happen. Who knows you might make it where anyone that mentions about being help captive is taken seriously and save more people. I’m only stating some ideas obviously you might find having a support group a huge help for people. You don’t need anything to set up a group you just need to be willing to set up an online group so people can talk and share their experiences 💜
It's like the law wants these things to happen. I will never understand why they release pedophiles back into the world. They should never be released and I'm glad all those horrible things happen to them in prison.
There's pedophiles in high places. They're everywhere and they protect one another. In various ways, including changing recommended sentences for those found guilty, or changing laws, or infiltrating society via gender ideology to groom children.
I disagree that all pedophiles should be locked up forever. I think with proper and immediate rehabilitation and treatment can make the great majority never commit or commit again. But, we don’t. We have no rehabilitation and no treatment. Our system is a fucking joke. It shouldn’t be the norm to beat and terrorize your children. It should be banned to abuse your children in any way. Franklin was a monster that the system and authorities let run rampant. They are the reason why he killed these people.
@@antisocialal4799 there is no rehabilitation for pedophiles. Even if they don't reoffend or offend to begin with, they're people living among us who think kids are sexy. They look at our kids like they're meat. They aren't welcome. If I found kids sexy I'd do the world a favor and uninstall life. Pretty simple.
I agree! It's insane that someone caught with weed gets YEARS and YEARS of jail time and these sick evil people get a few years and then are released. This world is going down the tubes, fast.
Yup. They have the highest recidivism rate of any offender so they clearly can’t be rehabilitated. No point in even letting them go because they will do it again
I honestly think she was able to get straight A’s because as someone who has gone through SA as a very young child, I threw myself into studies to distract myself, I was seen a gifted kid but then slowly I got burned out, so yea she probably coped by throwing herself into studying
Yes Oprah said this too. Plus she was a pretty and personable person so she probably got a lot of good natured attention from people, so she saw another way to move through the world, that wasn't like Franklin. She probably saw Franklin as someone who had to grit her teeth through and probably was desperate to connect to "normal" or safe people.
Definitely when you're raised in a chaotic, abusive and stressful home life school is predictable and soothing and you just want to do well and get praise.
I was the opposite. I couldn't cope with school on top of everything going on at home. I zoned out in class, didn't bother doing homework, skipped school a lot, and left as soon as I could with no qualifications.
This is one of those unspeakable cases that makes you wonder about the people around you. How did this vile man get away with so much evil for so long.
I just finished the Netflix documentary on this case & you've given me more details and facts in the first 25 minutes then the entire docudrama on Netflix did. I was left with sooooo many questions that they glossed over or completely omitted. I'm so glad that I researched more and found your channel. Great job & keep up the terrific work!!
Unfortunately Michael may have been sold into sex trafficking, it seems like this monster already had sicko friends like him so it wouldn’t be hard, it happens to boys as well as girls. My heart goes out for that baby hoping that this filth is getting brutally and horrifically assaulted in prison everyday !!
I was going to mention that. it was kind of messed up that they portrayed sandy as a mother who did not care about her children when she did try to get them back.
What a horrific path of destruction he left in his wake. Such a MONSTER. I can’t wrap my mind around the horror of what he did to Suzanne. Sometimes it’s just unfathomable to me the depths of depravity that humans can go to. I don’t GET IT! Evil indeed exists VERY MUCH among us and there are way too many demons masquerading as humans on this planet. Anyway, as always, thanks so much, Danielle. You’re one in a million.♥️
something i love about danielle is that she's very respectful when covering these cases. i can always tell she's sympathetic and genuinely cares about the victims
This is the most heartbreaking and devastating case ever. I just knew Suzanne would get away from Franklin at the end. I'm absolutely heartbroken for the 3 victims he clearly murdered. Precious Michael finally had a wonderful life and Franklin couldn't stand it. Franklin should have never known where Michael was. That sweet angel had already endured so much from Franklin. Thank you for telling their story. 💜
I hope you have a process in place to help you 'release' yourself from the burden of these cases. I am a survivor of years of financial, verbal, physical, emotional and sexual abuse and even with treatment, you can't runaway from your memory and thoughts. Your posts help, they really do. Thank you.
Would definitely be interested to hear the story of the other woman who was kidnapped for 5 years. So strange that 2 people who went through that would find each other through such random context. This story was terrible.
When you said Michael had recovered and started to attend school i literally shouted "yes!!" And fist pumped the air. Really thought it was a happy ending. Utterly utterly heartbreaking Danielle 😣💔
These types of cases make me think of just how many similar types of cases we’ll never know about just because it was so easy to get away with things back in the 70s and 80s. This guy got away with so many things and there’s still so many unanswered questions. Imagine how many people must’ve done such horrible things and did get away with it. It’s horrid but I feel like it’s reality.
Yes and it's scary because how many other people have been through this? Literally living a double life of extreme abuse until they're silenced when they state gaining independence. These stories sound so implausible AND YET here is a true example.
Right!?! I fear the truth is- there are countless stories out there we will never know, countless crimes, faces, lives lost or changed forever that will never be revealed, where justice was never served. There are Monsters among us, intertwined between normal living society and their own dark realities… realities that are drenched in deviance, mental health issues, and the horrific exploitations of others.
I think about this every time I watch true crime videos. The only reason these ones get caught is they mess up. They get too cocky, they make mistakes, they are unorganized, they leave something behind, they taunt the cops or victim's families, etc. Yes, sometimes they catch organized killers, but it's usually due to their ego getting the better of them or just pure luck. But what of the organized ones who can compartmentalize? The ones who keep their ego out of their killing? They choose victims at random, change up their killing methods, never kill where they live and likely travel to kill, hide the bodies so well they aren't found or if they are, they are difficult to ID? They have to exist. They are likely good at delayed gratification, don't kill willy nilly, and know enough about forensics to leave nothing behind and not leave a trackable trail. They are the ones I'm afraid of. Cuz they are cold hearted predators that will likely never be caught. No pattern, no connecting the dots, no getting caught. It's a scary thought.
yeah :( sometimes i'll suddenly think about how there's children somewhere in the world who are getting horribly ab*sed at this very moment and there's not much i can do about it. drives me to want to find a career in helping them but i dont know where to start
Yes, completely agree that there’s more stories like this. I mean, even the stripper she was with had a similar background. There’s definitely pedophile rings. How was this guy able to get so many different identities so easily? Are these people just meeting in prison and then getting together when they get out early on “good behavior”?! It’s crazy.
This was BY FAR the BEST video I have EVER watched on TrueCrime. I love Bailey Sarien. But you are quickly becoming my new favourite. You have done the victims justice, you have put a lot of detail (into all your videos. Not just this one), you have given a brilliant overview, been empathetic, given resources for us to read up on it ourselves. You have done an OUTSTANDING job (unlike the police during this horrific series of tragic indincidents) and have given me something to do for the past 1hr 30mins. XD But all seriousness, you have made a terrific video. And I appluade you. Love your videos! Keep 'em coming!
And obviously, I wish Franklin a very long life spent on death row. Where hopefully he has to get another "Daddy" and has to go through just the TINIEST amount that he put his victims through. All the worst to him!!!
Can we just thank Danielle for putting herself through the research to bring us these cases in such great detail. She has a gift and it cannot be easy for her to continue to do such a bang up job telling these stories without glorifying these killers and still honoring those who lost their lives. Thank you
yes. i love her. she understands the importance of explaining the criminals' backgrounds, while also making it clear that despite what they endured they still chose to be evil. instead of turning their lives around, they picked violence and became the weakest souls of humanity. their unfortunate victims, both direct and indirect (i.e. family and friends) should be cherished and respected.
I was in prison with a woman doing thirty years because she had a trunk full of marijuana in her garage, when I got out and went back home (one year for grand larceny) my neighbor’s adult son had just been released after doing eight years for second degree murder. Did you see that?? Woman: thirty years for some weed in her garage Man: released after eight years for killing someone. This was 25 years ago for me but I will never in my entire life forget the woman who was in for 30 years for weed and the man who was released after 8 for killing someone.
Although I think drug dealers deserve long time in prison, murderers deserve more; either be executed or locked up for life without the possibility of parole (I prefer execution to get rid of them).
@@dalia8858 Personally I don’t care about drug dealers tbh. I care more about putting people in jail who have direct victims. Sure, selling drugs leads to victims of course, but I’m talking about murder, rape, abuse, etc. Some type of crime where someone hurt someone else with their own hands. I know of a drug dealer that literally only sold weed and he was like 19 with no prior record when he got sentenced to 10 years. 10 years for having too much weed on him. Yet a rapist will get 4 years and then be out again to rape someone else, and this time, they’ll probably be better at not getting caught. What a shame.
This has to be the most insane case I think I've ever heard. I'm actually speechless. Thank you for your amazing coverage of this incredibly heartbreaking and infuriating case.
When I watched the Netflix documentary, I cried so hard at the end finding out that they never found the son of Suzanne. I talked about this case for months and my husband couldn't even watch it after I explained what the gist of the story was. This is the most heartbreaking case I have ever came across. There's a special place in hell for this man.
Missed you! I took a little break from true crime as I have been in a bad head space. Yet your video popped up and I couldn't say no. Honestly, it's your humanity that draws me in. No on else pays the same respect to the victims as you do. The emotion in your voice is minimal, but clear. Your hard work does not go unnoticed. Thank you for sharing these stories. The victims deserve to be known, respected, and remembered. You do exactly this.
If the host actually had any heart for humanity she would instinctively know that a baby boy of 2 years old subjected to the abuse, rape and terror he experienced during his formative years is going to determine his actions for the rest of his existence. Is it his fault his mom gave him away when he was 2yrs old? His fault a bunch of boys decided to rape him with a bat? Who ever came to his aide? Who ever loved him? Protected him? Cared and nurtured him? You all have a long way to go before you can claim to have a heart or care for humanity.
This case is completely heartbreaking. Suzanne and Michael both had so much potential and so much life to live and it was stolen for nothing. One of the most devastating cases I’ve heard
My siblings in I grew up in such an abusive home that even as adults, we could find each other in a crowd by our rocking back and forth. As well educated adults, we still have self soothing behaviors. We are Engineers, University Educators, psychiatric nurses, professional musicians...etc. the horrific crimes committed against us have never been dealt with.
To me, it seems that you did well despite that horrible treatment and that's something to be proud of. There are a lot if very successful people that have been through a lot but you all made it out and chose to break the cycle. The jobs that you have tell me that they are a bit of therapy for you. I got my BS in Psychology because I have Bipolar Disorder. I feel that certain things give us more empathy and people feel that. People have always been drawn to me for a reason so I went ahead learned more about myself by going to school.
I appreciate the chronology of your rendition of this story. The Girl in the Picture on Netflix started at the point that she was hit by the car. Basically, when the authorities got involved. And then they worked backwards from there. It was so confusing to have the chronology so disjointed. I appreciate that you started from the very beginning. Thank you! ❤️
Couldn’t agree more. I was really looking forward to watching Girl in the Picture after watching this, but it was so disorganized and difficult to follow. After the opening scene they talked to someone who worked at the strip club, and then to Michael’s foster parents. I don’t understand why it’s presented that way. If you don’t know the story they seem like 4 random stories.
I personally think they were telling the story from the order they were getting information. Yes it was confusing, but at the time they didn’t have all this information at once and were giving it to us as they got it.
@@bayleemontana4647 yeah, no shit! Lol But the chronology was better this way. That's exactly what I was saying. It was better to hear the story this way, than the way they did it in the documentary.
when i heard the part where Michael's parents were able to reverse all the trauma he had and raised him with so much love and care, i couldn't help but burst into tears. There is really a special, special place for that monstrous man,
This is close to home for me, I live in Florida and it is a reality shock when you know the places that these things happened at. Danielle, your kindness and mindfulness that you possess makes these cases bearable to hear. As a criminology major, your videos inspire me to continue with my education and help this wicked world
That principal deserves to feel the regret he does. If you can't fight tooth and nail for a child you don't deserve to be in the possession of children.
I always wonder, had the person (principal) said no, would the offender really risk killing them in broad daylight? I so wish there would have been a fight to save Michael. Just so horrible
I thought the same thing. He could’ve said he was going to get Michael, locked the classroom door, called authorities from the room and then alerted all class rooms to lock their doors. This wasn’t in a time where communication from room to room wasn’t available.
I saw the Netflix program about Suzanne and I remember I cried. I hurt so much for this girl and what she had been put through. Times have changed in the justice system but it still has so far to go. People who rape or are pedi’s can never be cured. They can never be reformed. It’s an ingrained compulsion that is as natural as breathing. I believe this with all my heart and if someone is put in prison for violence toward others, they will always be a danger and should be never be free. I will never forget Suzanne’s story.
This is honestly one of the most tragic cases i’ve ever heard. The fact Suzanne never ever made it out of that situation alive and found happiness and safety is so heartbreaking
Unfortunately, Suzanne's mother being a sex worker made the police look the other way. They likely thought Suzanne was "better off" with her "father". It wasn't very long ago in some ways, but it was a completely different world. What a heartbreaking story.
It sucks that before the mother met that monster child services contacted Suzanne’s biological father to take her …but they made him an offer of all three girls or none…two weren’t even his ….at 23 he felt like he couldn’t take care of three kids …if they would have let him take just Suzanne this never would have happened
This case was unbelievable.. no justice for Suzanne or Michael. I am glad Michael at least got a few years of normalcy where he experienced love and affection. Thank you Danielle for the way you shed light on these cases and the victims involved. This was so well done
The fact that we don’t know what happened to Michael is so heartbreaking. And that awful man is dead so his parents will never know what happened to their baby boy 😢
This was one of the most insane ones I’ve heard. Netflix is doing a documentary series here in the USA. The book “A beautiful child” broke my heart. Thank you for covering this case…. In another note, I love your podcast.
If you want a deeper understanding on some of the psychology in the way she handled this check out the books "strong at the broken places" and "the body keeps score" its fascinating how strong abused kids are. We develop coping skills normal folks can't even imagine.
Unbelievable! He got away with soooo much! All those ruined lives because of this psychopath. Huge tragedy. More people should have spoken up…like Franklin’s sick friends. Thank you for bringing the story. It couldn’t be easy in many ways. 🥺
It seems there is no limit to the level of harm people are willing to inflict on each other... absolutely disgusting. I thank you for the diligent research and sensitivity that you put into your episodes. Your humanity speaks volumes. Great job!
Missed you last week!! The way you share cases is so classy and caring! Also, please cover the case of Jenna Burleigh! She was a college student who transferred to a 4 year university in the US and was murdered within the first week there. Her story is a tragic example of the sad reality that women get killed for refusing sex.
It says a lot about Jennifer's character that she stayed friends with Suzanne after that traumatic night. I'm certain she knew something very sinister was going on and felt terrible for Suzanne and probably knew how important their friendship was for her sanity. Too young to really understand how to help her beyond that, but I'm sure that their friendship was something Suzanne was finally able to cherish. I am certain, as well, that Franklin would make money (being on the run with a false identity is difficult, even back then, and it's hard to get a job that pays well) by selling Suzanne to friends and that clubbing incident reminds me a lot of a situation I was put in and it made me ill, like actually. My suspicion is close to Danielle's, who I think was pretty spot on, those were his "friends", but he may have been paid by the club to provide young girls for their patrons, or paid directly by the "friends" Sick shit like that really happens, every day, people like that exist in really disturbing numbers. Poor, poor Suzanne. And her poor mother, to find all this out years later.
What most people refer to as "friend" describes someone they get along with and hang out with, but there's no real loyalty or trust. Jennifer was a real friend. As completely horrible as Suzanne's life was, at least she knew what it was like to be loved by someone, because that's what a real friendship is.
I know she was a kid too but she should have told someone. Her mom. It was unlikely that she was even allowed to go stay with her but her mom actually let her and so someone knew part of what Suzane was going through but she remained silent and she died just a few years later. It’s awful.
According to the documentary I saw on this story, her “father” WAS happy that she received a full scholarship to GA Tech. He actually took out a full page ad in her high school yearbook congratulating her on the scholarship. It wasn’t UNTIL she got pregnant that he got angered and told her she was not allowed to go to GA Tech and that’s when they up and moved.
Some of the cases you've covered have broken my heart but this one has brought me to tears. That man is the definition of a MONSTER. I don't care what happened to him when he was a little boy. There is no excuse for all of the evil he has done. He's going straight to hell!
You're absolutely right, but still don't forget that the majority of these monsters probably would be normal people if they didn't face such horrible childhoods. It's not an excuse, or a justification, but it's worth pointing out these sickos are broken people. That's why they do what they do. Some people are just born that way, but I think the majority of these monsters were created. Our minds are pretty frail, and pointing this out doesn't mean we think they're innocent or anything. It's just a simple fact that can't be ignored. I'd wager the mass majority of the most heinous monsters that have ever existed were created by abuse in their early years. If our society cared more about child well-being I don't think we'd have nearly as many sickos like this absolute monster of a man. Pointing out how they got to be as sick as they are isn't trying to excuse or write off their behavior. It's just worth pointing out that that majority of these people had extremely violent abusive childhoods, and that's likely a cause of their sick demented minds. They're still evil. They still should never be allowed out of prison, but it's worth pointing out, and more should be done to prevent it.
@@goodbher9244 Agreed. The point of true crime is to both learn what happened to the victims and to understand what led to the perpetrators' actions. Understanding isn't excusing.
@@Cure_Hana I'm even surprised he's still alive. I'd expect him to already be dead from the treatment in the prison. Then again, he's on death row, so I guess the inmates have only left him alive so that he gets executed later.
The sad thing is that the system still hasn't changed. You get more jail time for selling weed then you do for child predators. I was sexual abused for 5 years as a kid and I wasn't his first victim but he's still out there because his father works with the jail there so he didn't receive any jail time or charges.
This case had me shook. Literally one of the worst I've heard covered. Thank you for not shying away from the details and treating your listeners like adults.
Thank you for this case coverage! I tried to watch the netflix documentary but honestly felt so confused I gave up. Your video was so cohesive and made things so much clearer. This case is absolutely wild and heartbreaking. Subscribing to you for more thorough coverage! I appreciate this!
First of all you have great content! I am a person who was severely abused by my mother and abandoned by the time I was three years old. I am now a successful PI. Having a horrible childhood is no excuse for crime. I’ll repeat having a horrible childhood is no excuse for crime.
As a mother to a little girl, this hit me hard. The unknown of what my little baby with go through, and I just HOPE and will try to protect her with every fiber of my being...
I have read and seen so many true crime stories, but this one...this one broke me. I thought I was passed crying but this one really rocked me to my core. This is what evil is. I will always remember her and her sweet son
Me too. It's so difficult to comprehend how some people can be so evil. Too many bright lights extinguished by such an unrepentant monster. Heartbreaking 😢
Wow my mom went to Forrest Park HS just 6 years before her. This is terribly sad and disturbing. What a monster he was. She is absolutely gorgeous and deserved the world.
Both of my parents, my stepdad, & my grandparents went there as well. ETA that I talked to my dad, and he told me that he, his cousin, and my uncle knew Suzanne as Sharon. My dad graduated in 1988 from Forest Park High School, and my uncle graduated from there in 1984. He said that truly no one knew she was going through anything. What an absolute tragedy. Suzanne deserved more. That man is a monster. 💔
it really hurt hearing about her dream school rescinding the scholarship. this hasn't stopped. in 2014 I had received a similar offer, and discovered I was pregnant. the university rescinded their offer stating they did not have student parent housing. I like to think of it not as a lost dream, but as an opportunity to be something better then I hoped- a mommy💕
Wow I can't believe there is still this prejudice in 2014 wtf, well done you for embracing your life and child, I had an abortion at 17 to continue college and now at 34 I can't have children I wish I'd never made that choice.
I absolutely love the way you talk about these cases. After watching so many RUclipsrs who cover true crime you can kind of tell when the information j becomes kind of robotic for them, but the sympathy and care you put into telling their stories really show ❤️
You've definitely researched this well and explained the story in a way that makes it so easy and clear to understand. Thank you! Was definitely more engaged in your take on the story compared to the Netflix doco.
The Blatant disregard he has for human lives is so sickening and heartbreaking. I bet this was a hard one to cover but definitely needed to be told. So terribly sad. Thanks so much for this one. It'll be interesting to see if Netflix can do a better job than Danielle... she's that good!!
Right!! She did an amazing job on this very complex story..I feel so terrible for these babies. He took their innocence and then their lives. A truly evil person. And I hope the lethal injection goes horribly wrong so he'll suffer his last moments on earth.
I’ve read the books and his capital appeal. He seems to justify every horrible thing he’s done based on his upbringing that is if he does not straight up deny it.
Can we appreciate how Danielle always manages to match her nails with her makeup. Also this case was so upsetting and I’m amazed Danielle managed to get through it x
I think the most impressive skill is how Danielle does these eye looks w/o any fallout or having to clean up w a Q-tip😱 all these beauty You Tubers, idk how they do it, it’s the bane of my existence!!!😩😩😩
I just followed you. I love the small bits of comedy you throw in the storyline to lighten up the mood. Great job! You're one of the better crime channels.
I stumbled upon your channel, and it's quickly becoming one of my favorites. I love the details you go into in the stories, and you're able to bring them to life in a way others just can't do. I also absolutely love the way you honor the victims at the end of each of your videos.
i literally have no words after just listening for an hour and a half to this horrific case… just down right disturbing, heartbreaking, and it just felt like there’s so much to unpack 😭 i’m like sitting here rethinking and trying to wrap my head around all the elements surrounding the person franklin is and the things he’s done, but still… my brain is overloaded rn this is one of the most insane cases i’ve known and i’ve been watching true crime documentary for years
This was the hardest case's I've ever heard 😢 Thank you Danielle for taking the time to cover it ❣️🙏 your heart is made of gold and it is bigger than anything I've ever seen ❤️ Sending you so much love and prayers 🙏❣️
Well done Danielle! Franklin is an absolute monster and it’s unbelievable that he was able to carry out all of those crimes. You did an amazing job summarizing that mind blowing story. I also just watched the Hulu story of Steven, the boy who was kidnapped and raised by his abductor. It’s shocking how these children are just enrolled in school and groomed to just act like they’re living a normal life. So sad how these beautiful children are robbed of a normal life and achieving their dreams
I gave this a "like" not because I liked it but for engagement. You did an excellent job, as usual, of being incredibly respectful of the victims and I love how passionate and caring you are.
If this girl Suzanne was really brilliant, while living in a total bloody nightmare, can you imagine what she could hv done growing up in a nice, decent, loving, supportive family????? O.M.G.
Notice how Suzanne went thru just as much (if not worse) than Franklin did in his childhood, yet she didn't go sexually abusing or hurting others. Almost like sicko offenders use that as an excuse. I've been sexually assaulted & abused multiple times, never had the urge to victimize someone else.
fr if they know how it feels why would they put someone else thru that its definitely an excuse
Yeah I’m just amazed how there are reports that Suzanne was still very generous, kind and smart while going through all that horrific trauma. That just shows it’s not an excuse.
same here and yet the laws are so slack wen it comes to them yet theres ppl in jail for less for way longer
Straight up, they're all excuses. The rest seem to rest on "the voices told me to do it" or "I was depressed" that BS too, mental illness doesn't equate to violence either.
They do use it as an excuse to try make themselves the victim but they are lying scumbags.. I also was s. abused and I am more infuriated by s. abuse than anyone.. I literally cry when someone steps on an ant accidentally… a lot of people that go through pain at a young age end up being more empathetic than the average person, big/good hearted
Why are pedophiles EVER even let out of prison? Hurting a child is the worst crime one can commit and it should be an immediate life sentence.
Children were less valued back then is what I’ve been told, also passing bad checks was looked on as a pretty serious crime. She must have had more than one bad check to do jail time though! It’s amazing what you could get away with back then without amber alerts, cameras everywhere etc…..
Because the us doesn’t care about pedophilia. The us is the number one producer of child pornography in the world. It’s close to a billion dollar Industry. It’s sick.
The justice system is so screwed up, a drug dealer whose killed people with laced drugs will get 9 months and a women who killed her abuser will get life
I agree, but if they do let them out they should be castrated.
@@tessagahart8664THIS. Pedophiles do NOT deserve reproductive rights. Hell, remove the entirety of the organ for all I care. Obviously they were never using it responsibly.
I think the most tragic part about this story is that she probably never knew she was kidnapped and her mother desperately wanted her back. How awful.
It reminds me of the TV show Finding Carter where a girl living her happy life with her mom finds out at 15yo that she was actually stolen from a front yard, and her re-integrating into her 'real' family. Though it doesn't go anywhere as depraved as this case does obviously. But it's an interesting watch for sure, because if someone has been your mom since you can remember, finding out she's not at 15yo and being ripped out of your life to 'fix' what never seemed broken to you? I imagine reintegrating is HARD.
Her mother was not a good mother
Yeah, the whole time I was thinking if someone had taken my little one. And I went through all those years thinking she was dead, then learning that it was arguably a lot worse.
Actually her mother didn't try hard enough to find her
I really don't think her mother wanted her.
Honestly, I am horrified that he had gotten out of prison after the first assault. A FOUR YEAR OLD got r-ped and he just gets off with 10 to 20 years?! The justice system is broken, and this repulsive monster is proof.
Thank a liberal democrat
And he didn't even serve all of that sentence!!!
It would have been way less in Ireland
In US, because of overcrowded of the jail, usually the perpetrator will get parole after served 1/3 of the sentence, if the court didn't mention no parole.
He was sentence to 30 years (10 years of the rape, extra 15 years for the escape, and extra 5 years for voiding the bail )
if he didn't escape, for 10 years sentences, he will be released after 3.5 years, yes, just 3.5 years, for a sexual predator.
@chanchanchu4630 wow, the same in a lot of countries now. Due to overcrowding people left out early not just due to good behavior. Look at the UK with new laws to let people who committed certain crimes out early to help them rehabilitate better.
As her friend at the club said, "Suzanne would've made an incredible survivor", and it's true, she would have. Considering how well she managed to function while trapped in an actually hellish environment. Suzanne was exceptional and I hate that she never got the opportunity to live free of that monster, with her beloved son.
She wouldn't have been just a survivor...but a warrior.
Ya the system failed this poor woman and her little angel.... I hope this pig rots in hell.
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Why the make UP.😊
I saw the documentary and honestly, Heather (the dancer) seemed like such a kick ass lady to be around. Knew how the club worked and tried to give Suzanne an easy job and start her off simple, and did her best to try and separate Suzanne from Floyd from her position
They immediately arrest a struggling mother who’s cheque bounced when she’s trying to buy things for her children but dont arrest a man who’s accused of harassment with a history of pedophilia and sexual assault and escaping prison? sounds about right
In short misogynism sexism. Bcz he is a man so he wasnt captured. She was women so she was captured
Did you not listen at all? This is the dumbest comment I've read. Way to pick out your narrative
The mother has given several stories about being arrested on the hot check warrant, "buying diapers" is a greatest hit. She got 30 days for the hot check because she had an arrest history for prostitution and drugs. It has been established the mother tried to sell two of her girls. This gave Franklin the idea he could monetize the children, which he did, selling off the youngest (the boy whose identity was determined in 2020) after the mother's arrest. There's quite a bit of circumstantial evidence the birth mother sold Suzanne to Franklin.
@Alissa Rios yes, but they gave him TOO many chances! He NEVER should've been released so early from prison & for DAMN sure never released on bond after only being out of prison for pedophilia when he was arrested & charged trying to kidnap someone else! So, regardless the op wasn't just talking about strictly leaving the kids w\them when the Mom went to jail. Just seems like the authorities were tougher on a Mom for bouncing checks trying to get supplies for babies, & the predator got EVERY break! It's frustrating, sickening, maddening, & atrocious!
@@louis5094 refer to my above comment. This isn't a dumb comment. He got EVERY break as an adult. (Not as a kid, where he had a very very bad deal) so, yes, at the time Mom was arrested they didn't KNOW who he was, but the injustice STILL hits hard. Bc they punished her rather severely, & he got let out early & released on bond after offending only a month after being released. & They let him out on bond when he had a history of escaping & running. So, maybe YOU weren't paying attention. I find it's best not to go around insulting ppl but if that's who you are, good for you.
Imagining how Suzanne's mother felt after hearing the news 40 years later that she was right and this all could've been stopped if the police had taken her seriously then... So heartbreaking and I'm so glad you told this one.
HO-rubble mother
Just because yhe police don't help you does not mean you give up and stop looking for your child. There are still so many things her mother could have done to find her kids.
@@marybritt4412 We don't exactly know what she tried to do but I do think after a long amount of time it will feel hopeless.
@@marybritt4412 we don’t know if she stopped looking, but we know she doesn’t have access to the same advanced tools to be as successful as the police.
@@marybritt4412 back in the day with no social media, she'd have had limited finances and the 2 children she got back to look after, she would have been fighting a losing battle and as others said, you don't know what she did try and was doing to find them that whole time - just because it's not included here.
Not to mention how many people were involved in this whole thing and tried to help and not one single one of them had success.
The only reason this scumbag was even caught is because it appears he appears to have been so confident in his power due how long and how much he'd blatently got away with, he believed he could kidnap a child and head teacher from school.
You seem to forget, the police were searching for him for years and only got a heads up when he accidently gave his real social security number. If they couldn't find, what hope do you think she had!!!
This case gave me goosebumps. It also made me emotional. Franklin died January 23, 2023. Knowing that he lived that long after killing and doing what he did is crazy
Shit he died on my birthday
Me too. I felt so sad. It haunted me.
Best bday present, imo
@harmc2301 😮 Came here to comment this. We have a cool birthday. 01-23.
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So much devastation from a single man. What gets me is the fact that he was able to find friends to abuse her. This makes me think that so many men are predators. This is insane. He should’ve been reported the minute he offered her to anyone.
How thriving Susan could’ve been if she had a good environment. This is all so infuriating. All of this happened in the open and no one did anything. The fact that all of this happened for so long is absolutely insane.
I believe that alot of us have lived lives that prove that "so many men are predators" is a true statement.
The sad truth is men like that always find others like them to befriend. It's unfortunately not uncommon for abusers to share victims
That's because so many men are. They have lots of women joining them too but yeah still 9/10 of them are gonna be men. Sometimes I think that something's missing on the Y chromosome, something to do compassion and with understanding the consequences of one's actions.
@@ThimbleFox350 I totally agree
@@sagebryant786 sadly yes, they can share victims.
This one really got to me. The fact he robbed her of her childhood, teenage hood and into adulthood. Stole her innocence, her hopes and dreams. Her whole entire LIFE. Then her son.. This is one of the worst cases I have ever seen. 😢
Oh my!!! What about the abuse he endured? What about the terror he faced every day by everyone who was supposed to take care of him. What about his life stolen?
You people make me shake my head in disgust.
Abuse breeds abuse!
@@lisaovan6024 many people go through abuse and choose to not harm others . Are you excusing his behavior ?
Lisa Ovan I’m sure the VAST majority of victims would agree with me when I say So what!
@@lisaovan6024 Abuse is an answer to why, not an excuse for it. People can choose to seek help to break the cycle or not, he chose to continue it.
@@lisaovan6024 do you go by this in your life? is that's your excuse to hurt others?
Being an overachiever is actually one of many reactions to abuse. So it’s really no way to judge a healthy child.
It’s such a shame Susan had to live like this for so long. Very sad that no one was able to help despite recognizing that something was wrong.
God bless her, I am sure she didn't even know what to compare a healthy life to, with what she was going thru. I am sure that she thought her life was just like everyone else's. This world we live in is so scary.
so that's why! thank you! lol
Probably found schoolwork easy, in comparison with her homelife, where any mistake would be punished & death was always an option.
I mean, you’re not allowed to have too many friends. You sure as hell don’t want to date. What else is there to do?
The fact that he got away with all of this after having the first offense of r****g a 4 year old is insane. The fact that he got out at all is honestly just crazy to me.
Just reveals what a demented justice system we really have. It is dysfunctional.
pedophiles should have some of the harshest sentences around the world but sadly children are considered property from far too many and cannot vote so they are not protected like they should be....
It is so easy to sit back and say "why didn't she tell someone" but when you live a life clouded by so much fear you end up spending more time worrying about making sure nothing goes wrong and you make it through that 1 day without making them mad.
R.I.P Suzanne and Michael
I would say I understand not saying something it’s so sad but don’t if you are reading this
Well, her fear was justified, wasn't it? When she finally tried to break free, he killed her.
These kidnapped children rarely tell anyone. Especially in Suzanne case she was so little when she was taken. Let's face it this guy was terrifying. If she had told someone he would have killed her sooner
in all honesty bein taken so young she probably thought all of tht was normal after awhile it was her day to day life 😢 and she knew no the wiser her mind could have even put out the memory of her birth family too full on Stockholm syndrome has by far been the worst story ive come across as more and more stuff was revealed i could only say it couldnt get any worst 😢
I came from an extremely abusive home. I'll drink to this.
An entire life of abuse. Beginning to end. My heart is so broken for Suzanne, Michael, and all the victims of this monster. Truly so angering and heartbreaking to think people do this to innocent children.
I think it's even more sad that when everything was found out, Suzanne's mother never got to meet her daughter again, or even her grandson Michael.
@@DrSidd-846 her mother didn’t care about her, at all. She literally gave up and even told her two daughters that their little brother was dead, she is a cold hearted woman and she knew way more than she is saying, she probably sold them to him, nasty witch
@@DrHorribleishere12 wait I think there is confusion, I am commending the girl Franklin kidnapped, Michael's mother... I thought her name was Suzanne, if it wasn't then I would like to clarify its the kidnapped 4 year old I am talking about.
@@DrSidd-846 I’m talking about Suzanne mother, not Suzanne aka the girl who was kidnapped at age 4 and who was ran over by this sicko. The mother didn’t care her daughter, she went one time to the police and never went back or force them to do something. She told the remaining two daughters that their son, Suzanne brother, was dead but he was found alive and adopted out, he was found in 2021. Suzanne herself was an amazing mother and I know she gave up her other children to protect them from this sicko. I was school would have tried harder to save the boy, they gave Michael away way too easily. Principal cared about his own life not Michael, he should have been charged
@@DrHorribleishere12 oh I see what you mean, but I didn't judge Suzanne's mum to be a monster, after all this was the 1970's and there wasn't so much technology to help police too much considering Franklin was moving states and changing names all the time. At that time, police would literally scout out and just ask around for clues, which would be almost useless. Plus, if you remember, the mother was already broke, which is how she ended up going to jail, which I believe Franklin somehow set her up for in order to kidnap the girl. Plus, she did go out initially when she got out and all her kids were missing. All I'm saying is that I too am a mother, and there were lots of realities that could have gotten in the way. It would have been nice if they could have reunited, even if the mother didn't care as we assume at least Suzanne and Michael would have been happy. As for telling her kids the brother is dead, well, again, sometimes as a parent it can be very frustrating and difficult to explain to kids what's happened. I don't want to assume she didn't try hard enough, we don't know what she tried or how much because the story wasn't about her.
I don’t mean at all to trivialize this but Suzanne just amazes me. She, to me, embodies what I have always thought of as a main quality in Disney princess characters. Unshakable light that shines no matter the horribleness that surrounds them. Continuing to be kind and true to themselves despite a monster’s presence doing everything it can to stamp that light out. Most people -understandably- become hardened, untrusting, mean, even repeat the treatment they were given. Suzanne’s unbreakable light seems almost otherworldly to me. I hope she is resting in peace with her baby Michael.
I was thinking the same thing, extremely unreal qualities that are so respectable and it's just so tragic that any of this had to happen to her. My heart fell to the ground listening to how her dreams were torn apart from her only to be forced into sex work. So, so heartbreaking
@@sophie-qx4imRest in peace Suzanne 🙏🏻❤️
So a 4 year old girl went through a life similar to Frank, a grown ass man and she still turned out to be a better decent human.
I dont know how to say this without sounding sexist, but statistically usually women do. Its usually men that perpetuate the violence they endured.
I'm doubting you made it to the end of the video. If it's because you couldn't handle learning about this true life story's first half, I doubt anyone who saw the second half would say you could have made it to the end.
@@Savvy. There's no proof she turned out to be a decent human being. A decent human being would have been one that turned him in a long time ago to protect others. A brainwashed enabler really wouldn't know what decency is. A study of political IDEOLOGIES is proof enough.
@@Savvy. Also, the original commenter's opinion implies the person survived. The only reason evil Frank got caught was because he was so sociopathic he walked into a school and held a principal at gunpoint to kidnap a child.
@@Savvy. Therefore, I doubt you understood the context of my op.
What a heartbreaking case. One of the worst, the saddest, the most angering cases I’ve heard. If only the police would have looked for him when he kidnapped Suzanne and her siblings this could have ended years ago. A step parent absolutely can not take your child. They are not the legal guardians unless they formally adopt the child. That was just ridiculous.
Sadly the laws back then allowed things like that. They were very backward and so not child friendly. They didn't have the child protection laws we do now, it was because of cases like this and others that we do. But there needs to be more done to protect children.
Exactly that wasn't his biological kids police failed her & her siblings.. he married on purpose just to get to Suzanne
Yes , I think exactly the same and also having a dad a veteran come on where was he ? Traumatized for the war and made her own daughter suffer worse than him i blem him he should keep the sibling when he was asked for, the had to suit the police do more for their children
Yes, it's so crazy! Bc now a step parent has no rights! They can't even get a child seem by the Dr w\o permission! I just can't believe the police wouldn't even look back then! I think that's why it took so long for the fbi to find out who she really was bc there was never an Amber Alert (or the equivalent at that time bc Amber Alerts weren't created yet.) But if there was a search & notice in the papers about that little girl being missing besides just a comment in a police report they never went anywhere, they'd have made the connection. I truly hope this thing couldn't happen so easily these days. I'm not naive, I know terrible things like this still happen. But hopefully, it's not as easy to change identity & get documents verifying birth, social, etc now. You pretty much need dna to do anything now it seems like (an exaggeration yes. But who knows how long b4 we actually are required to keep dna on file for everyone! )
@@malisashutt6231 The "authorities", including police and social services, repeatedly fail those they are meant to protect. I was one of the "lucky ones", I escaped foster care and stayed on the run for 6 years. It was '89 and nobody believed me, that I was being raped and beaten. When I ran away from that the authorities didn't believe me and tried to send me back. I was like NOPE, and stayed a runaway after that.
I can't get over how his sentence for brutally raping a child was lesser than his sentence for escaping/robbing a bank. Disgusting.
That was my same sentiment! I was very confused. How could they think money is any comparison to a child’s innocence ?
@@hazelcox3002 Why do you think that is, and that people are still to this day getting weak sentenced for the worst possible crime? This world is saturated with, and run by, pedophiles. They in a way help each other get away with heinous things like this because they're depraved.
Very typical in the US of A!
all that really matters is money and property. the law never protects women or children
You can thank Alfred Kinsey for that!
The story with Jenny at the sleepover is devastating. She was AMAZING during the trial. Suzanne and Michael deserved so much more out of life. Sending all my love to the families affected by this vile infected toe fungus.
If she had told all of this to her parents or anyone, Suzanne could have been saved
Danielle skipped it but he also raped Suzanne with her friend in the room... horrible
Was the trial recorded?
Wasn't this made into a Netflix documentary. The girl in the photo ?
Tbh toe fungus doesn't even deserve to be compared to this vile, disgusting creature.
The fact that Franklin was able to murder Suzanne in the hospital is so infuriating. Obviously everything in this case is, but this just drives me crazy. Even if there wasn’t any solid evidence to back Suzanne’s friend’s claims that her “husband” was going to murder her, the authorities should have had security guarding her in the hospital just in case! Suzanne was hit by a car and left for dead which is already suspicious, then you add on the fact that her loved ones are desperately pleading for help protecting her from her potentially violent and murderous “husband”! That’s not enough to at least make sure that the friend’s claims weren’t true? Her death was so unbelievably avoidable. The fact that Franklin has not suffered any consequences for ending an innocent woman’s life is so disturbing. Suzanne was going to recover, then the hospital staff were suspicious of her “husband”, then her friends reached out for help to try and protect her, then no one did anything and Franklin visited and she ends up dead. I feel so awful for everyone who was close to this case. The whole thing really is an unspeakable tragedy. I can only hope that every day Franklin is alive is filled with the most pain and unbearable suffering imaginable, and that it continues after he dies.
He died in prison January 23, 2023
One of your best episodes yet. You covered such a lengthy and heartbreaking case with such tact and respect. I only wish there had been a happy ending for Michael.
A- roblox nvm-
@@DanDCool Roblox? Where?
The horror of this case began when Franklin was abused as a child. Child abuse has such a terrible ripple effect that touches generations to follow stop child abuse and we will significantly impact all kinds of crime.
Can't agree enough, Its a cycle and one that is rarely ever broken. all it takes is ONE person to make a report, and keep reporting for action to be taken..
I was abused as a child. I, however, got help, learned, grew & raise my children in a happy, healthy home. Childhood abuse doesn't give an excuse.
@@missiecombs4807 It's definitely not an excuse, but it is an explanation. Not all people who are abused continue the cycle, but a lot do. Many abusers were abused themselves. This obviously doesn't excuse their actions, but it is something to be considered.
@@missiecombs4807 not every victim has support. Franklin was abused by multiple people. His entire life was abuse and violence during the most crucial times of development. His entire life was survival mode.
@@JinkaB0o that is actually a myth, created by pop psychology from the last century and maintained by popular culture. This case is horrific and I fully believe that in this case Franklin's own childhood traumas are a big contributor. However, most of the people who grew up in an abusive situation end up trying as best as they can to become the best parents, partners, etc.
The level of respect you show in these cases is beyond touching. I just honestly feel such respect for you in turn for being able to do what you do in such a touching and dignified way. All the love and please take care of yourself too! x
i once saw a youtuber talking about crime n beauty vids and was calling danielle out about mentioning the murders zodiac signs like ??? dnaielle is my fave and shes always so sensitive about the cases shes so respectful and empathetic
@@poojawhatisthisbehavior2090 i saw that too!! it was so weird like there are literally STUDIES about zodiac signs and how many of them are killers. people always find a problem about something in the true crime community. danielle is super respectful about it and it’s not like she bashes people with the same zodiac sign as a criminal.
@Better Together 👀 who is it im nosy
@@poojawhatisthisbehavior2090 I mean I get where they’re coming from because it can seem a little disrespectful to the victims family’s in a way
@Better Together exactly... then u think it cant get worse then I see muck bangers or doing true crime I saw one video for a minute & that ended that it was so disgusting & disrespectful that I hope they get rid of those kind...hioe u enjoying u Sunday!!
The amount of emotions I felt when I heard what he did to those poor girls. I don't care how you grow up, you do NOT hurt children and animals.
Ditto😓
Your way of covering cases is just so sympathetic, soft and respectful 😢 it brings tears to my eyes ❤️
I hope this monster rots in hell for all eternity. Everyone let this girl down incl herself. Her mother was & always will be worthless. It’s her fault, as well as his, for bringing him into their lives in the 1st place.😡
@@MademoiselleIcelfly his fault for sure, but how was the mother supposed to know about his malicious intentions? How would anyone expect something as crazy as your step husband kidnapping your children and putting them through private adoption, and keeping another for the sole reason of abusing them? She could have done something when she got those weird vibes from him but she is not on par with Franklin.
@@MademoiselleIcelfly Whoa! Victim blame much
@@MademoiselleIcelfly "everyone let this girl down, including herself"... what?
Chill out
He knew exactly what he was doing when he kidnapped her at a young age. He groomed her to the point where she couldn't run away from him. Loyalty is not engineered, it is nurtured. It's disgusting what he did to this girl.
My mother remembered them when they were in Kentucky. Her and my step-dad owned a bar. They presented themselves as a couple. When she read the book it was just heartbreaking. It was just horrible knowing what this young lady went through and that no one protected her ever
So they hung out at ur mother's bar? And told everyone Sharon was his wife? Crazy
its a miracle she didn't turn into an aileen wournos !
Oooh, you mother knew them
@@BEAUTYnIQ bro what
@@M5TABBYCAT She remembered them. They stood out to her but in the business my parents were in people passed through frequently, make some money and then they moved on
For anyone wondering Franklin Delano Floyd died in prison of natural causes January 2023 according to an attorney who had worked on his case.
I assume that they never set an execution date out of hope that he would eventually confess where Michael's body is. But it appears he never did. How he evaded capture for so long and got away with so many things for so long is truly shameful. I would almost feel for him for what he experienced in his childhood if he hadnt of turned into such a disgusting monster. To his victims, I am so sorry for what he did and how you were let down by so many RIP.
Of course he did, they never put these disgusting men into the punishment they've been given.
They let them appeal over and over. Hell naw, you've been proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, die.
I agree. Poor Michael 🕊️🙏🏾 RIP
The world is a better place now that he isn't in it. RIP to Cheryl, Suzanne, and Michael.
After the first violent crime, they never should've given him bail. The system is terrible. He ruined so many lives. All they had to do was keep him in jail. This is just so heartbreaking.
Edit: i stayed away for a few days since reactions tend to vary and they can make me feel not so good, but uh, as you may notice, im not good at replying apparently and all of them are at the bottom now. >.>
Anyway. Thank you so much. The support and kindness shown here brought me to tears. It actually makes me feel much stronger than i have in a long time.
I hope positively finds all of you beautiful souls.
The world is much better with each of you in it.
Not gonna lie, this story hit different. I was kidnapped for seven years of my life. I went to school, I tried to tell therapists, and so many people let me down. I wish I had a way to connect with other women who went through things like that. Sometimes things are frustrating and confusing still.
I am truly sorry you experienced that & hope you are able to get help & find peace.
Thank you. I've made my peace and come to terms with it. It is just crazy. A few more years, that would have been me.
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I’m so sorry to hear this but why don’t you set up a fb page or something where other people that have gone through this and survived can connect. Once you’ve got so many people you can arrange meetings but if I was you for safety reasons make sure it’s in a public area so renting
a room in a hotel etc you could even have a donate button where people can donate and the money used to help other people who need help after going through such a horrific situation. But if you can’t find one why not start one yourself to connect with other survivors and who knows you might end up being able to advise therapists and other people about kidnapping and helping other people. I don’t mean to over - step but if you can’t find any other places there’s no reason why you can’t set one up yourself and be there to help others as well as yourself. You could be the change that needs to happen. Who knows you might make it where anyone that mentions about being help captive is taken seriously and save more people. I’m only stating some ideas obviously you might find having a support group a huge help for people. You don’t need anything to set up a group you just need to be willing to set up an online group so people can talk and share their experiences 💜
Same here, but for 3 years.
It's like the law wants these things to happen. I will never understand why they release pedophiles back into the world. They should never be released and I'm glad all those horrible things happen to them in prison.
There's pedophiles in high places. They're everywhere and they protect one another. In various ways, including changing recommended sentences for those found guilty, or changing laws, or infiltrating society via gender ideology to groom children.
I disagree that all pedophiles should be locked up forever. I think with proper and immediate rehabilitation and treatment can make the great majority never commit or commit again. But, we don’t. We have no rehabilitation and no treatment. Our system is a fucking joke. It shouldn’t be the norm to beat and terrorize your children. It should be banned to abuse your children in any way. Franklin was a monster that the system and authorities let run rampant. They are the reason why he killed these people.
@@antisocialal4799 there is no rehabilitation for pedophiles. Even if they don't reoffend or offend to begin with, they're people living among us who think kids are sexy. They look at our kids like they're meat. They aren't welcome. If I found kids sexy I'd do the world a favor and uninstall life. Pretty simple.
I agree! It's insane that someone caught with weed gets YEARS and YEARS of jail time and these sick evil people get a few years and then are released. This world is going down the tubes, fast.
Yup. They have the highest recidivism rate of any offender so they clearly can’t be rehabilitated. No point in even letting them go because they will do it again
I honestly think she was able to get straight A’s because as someone who has gone through SA as a very young child, I threw myself into studies to distract myself, I was seen a gifted kid but then slowly I got burned out, so yea she probably coped by throwing herself into studying
Yes Oprah said this too. Plus she was a pretty and personable person so she probably got a lot of good natured attention from people, so she saw another way to move through the world, that wasn't like Franklin. She probably saw Franklin as someone who had to grit her teeth through and probably was desperate to connect to "normal" or safe people.
I’m so sorry you went through that. I hope your okay and healing ❤
hmm, yeah I relate as well
Definitely when you're raised in a chaotic, abusive and stressful home life school is predictable and soothing and you just want to do well and get praise.
I was the opposite. I couldn't cope with school on top of everything going on at home. I zoned out in class, didn't bother doing homework, skipped school a lot, and left as soon as I could with no qualifications.
This is one of those unspeakable cases that makes you wonder about the people around you. How did this vile man get away with so much evil for so long.
Name change
I just finished the Netflix documentary on this case & you've given me more details and facts in the first 25 minutes then the entire docudrama on Netflix did. I was left with sooooo many questions that they glossed over or completely omitted. I'm so glad that I researched more and found your channel. Great job & keep up the terrific work!!
What’s the name of the documentary ?
Unfortunately Michael may have been sold into sex trafficking, it seems like this monster already had sicko friends like him so it wouldn’t be hard, it happens to boys as well as girls. My heart goes out for that baby hoping that this filth is getting brutally and horrifically assaulted in prison everyday !!
@@daniellehopper8209 it's called the girl in the picture
I was going to mention that. it was kind of messed up that they portrayed sandy as a mother who did not care about her children when she did try to get them back.
SAME
This is the first murder case that has made me cry, my heart goes out to Michael and Susan, babies do not deserve to ever go through that.
The fact her daughter named her son after Michael sent me into a flood of tears
Me too! What a great way to honor him, a brother she probably wished very much that she had met and got a chance to love.
What a horrific path of destruction he left in his wake. Such a MONSTER. I can’t wrap my mind around the horror of what he did to Suzanne. Sometimes it’s just unfathomable to me the depths of depravity that humans can go to. I don’t GET IT! Evil indeed exists VERY MUCH among us and there are way too many demons masquerading as humans on this planet.
Anyway, as always, thanks so much, Danielle. You’re one in a million.♥️
something i love about danielle is that she's very respectful when covering these cases. i can always tell she's sympathetic and genuinely cares about the victims
No shit , who wouldnt
@@pigpeltTV you would be surprised. Danielle shows a lot of tact and the same cannot be said about everyone unfortunately
UNLIKE BAILEY SERIAN. she can be insensitive
@@pigpeltTV look her up. sometimes it makes me cringe so hard like how can you have this me a girl attitude when talking about a murder.
mean girl*
This is the most heartbreaking and devastating case ever. I just knew Suzanne would get away from Franklin at the end. I'm absolutely heartbroken for the 3 victims he clearly murdered. Precious Michael finally had a wonderful life and Franklin couldn't stand it. Franklin should have never known where Michael was. That sweet angel had already endured so much from Franklin. Thank you for telling their story. 💜
I'm not sure if I'd classify being murdered as getting away 🤔
@@alibabe66 That's not what I meant. I thought she would get away from him at the end and be free. I didn't think she was going to be murdered.
I hope you have a process in place to help you 'release' yourself from the burden of these cases. I am a survivor of years of financial, verbal, physical, emotional and sexual abuse and even with treatment, you can't runaway from your memory and thoughts. Your posts help, they really do. Thank you.
Would definitely be interested to hear the story of the other woman who was kidnapped for 5 years. So strange that 2 people who went through that would find each other through such random context. This story was terrible.
When you said Michael had recovered and started to attend school i literally shouted "yes!!" And fist pumped the air. Really thought it was a happy ending. Utterly utterly heartbreaking Danielle 😣💔
Me too
These types of cases make me think of just how many similar types of cases we’ll never know about just because it was so easy to get away with things back in the 70s and 80s. This guy got away with so many things and there’s still so many unanswered questions. Imagine how many people must’ve done such horrible things and did get away with it. It’s horrid but I feel like it’s reality.
Yes and it's scary because how many other people have been through this? Literally living a double life of extreme abuse until they're silenced when they state gaining independence. These stories sound so implausible AND YET here is a true example.
Right!?! I fear the truth is- there are countless stories out there we will never know, countless crimes, faces, lives lost or changed forever that will never be revealed, where justice was never served. There are Monsters among us, intertwined between normal living society and their own dark realities… realities that are drenched in deviance, mental health issues, and the horrific exploitations of others.
I think about this every time I watch true crime videos. The only reason these ones get caught is they mess up. They get too cocky, they make mistakes, they are unorganized, they leave something behind, they taunt the cops or victim's families, etc. Yes, sometimes they catch organized killers, but it's usually due to their ego getting the better of them or just pure luck. But what of the organized ones who can compartmentalize? The ones who keep their ego out of their killing? They choose victims at random, change up their killing methods, never kill where they live and likely travel to kill, hide the bodies so well they aren't found or if they are, they are difficult to ID? They have to exist. They are likely good at delayed gratification, don't kill willy nilly, and know enough about forensics to leave nothing behind and not leave a trackable trail. They are the ones I'm afraid of. Cuz they are cold hearted predators that will likely never be caught. No pattern, no connecting the dots, no getting caught. It's a scary thought.
yeah :( sometimes i'll suddenly think about how there's children somewhere in the world who are getting horribly ab*sed at this very moment and there's not much i can do about it. drives me to want to find a career in helping them but i dont know where to start
Yes, completely agree that there’s more stories like this. I mean, even the stripper she was with had a similar background. There’s definitely pedophile rings. How was this guy able to get so many different identities so easily? Are these people just meeting in prison and then getting together when they get out early on “good behavior”?! It’s crazy.
This was BY FAR the BEST video I have EVER watched on TrueCrime. I love Bailey Sarien. But you are quickly becoming my new favourite. You have done the victims justice, you have put a lot of detail (into all your videos. Not just this one), you have given a brilliant overview, been empathetic, given resources for us to read up on it ourselves. You have done an OUTSTANDING job (unlike the police during this horrific series of tragic indincidents) and have given me something to do for the past 1hr 30mins. XD But all seriousness, you have made a terrific video. And I appluade you. Love your videos! Keep 'em coming!
And obviously, I wish Franklin a very long life spent on death row. Where hopefully he has to get another "Daddy" and has to go through just the TINIEST amount that he put his victims through. All the worst to him!!!
Can we just thank Danielle for putting herself through the research to bring us these cases in such great detail. She has a gift and it cannot be easy for her to continue to do such a bang up job telling these stories without glorifying these killers and still honoring those who lost their lives. Thank you
yes. i love her. she understands the importance of explaining the criminals' backgrounds, while also making it clear that despite what they endured they still chose to be evil. instead of turning their lives around, they picked violence and became the weakest souls of humanity. their unfortunate victims, both direct and indirect (i.e. family and friends) should be cherished and respected.
Something is wrong with the system when drug offenders get same lengths as such a dreadful crime
I was in prison with a woman doing thirty years because she had a trunk full of marijuana in her garage, when I got out and went back home (one year for grand larceny) my neighbor’s adult son had just been released after doing eight years for second degree murder. Did you see that?? Woman: thirty years for some weed in her garage Man: released after eight years for killing someone.
This was 25 years ago for me but I will never in my entire life forget the woman who was in for 30 years for weed and the man who was released after 8 for killing someone.
Although I think drug dealers deserve long time in prison, murderers deserve more; either be executed or locked up for life without the possibility of parole (I prefer execution to get rid of them).
@@dalia8858 Personally I don’t care about drug dealers tbh. I care more about putting people in jail who have direct victims. Sure, selling drugs leads to victims of course, but I’m talking about murder, rape, abuse, etc. Some type of crime where someone hurt someone else with their own hands.
I know of a drug dealer that literally only sold weed and he was like 19 with no prior record when he got sentenced to 10 years. 10 years for having too much weed on him. Yet a rapist will get 4 years and then be out again to rape someone else, and this time, they’ll probably be better at not getting caught. What a shame.
This has to be the most insane case I think I've ever heard. I'm actually speechless.
Thank you for your amazing coverage of this incredibly heartbreaking and infuriating case.
When I watched the Netflix documentary, I cried so hard at the end finding out that they never found the son of Suzanne. I talked about this case for months and my husband couldn't even watch it after I explained what the gist of the story was. This is the most heartbreaking case I have ever came across. There's a special place in hell for this man.
docu name?
@@naudi4791 The Girl in the Picture
@@Dez861 I h8 this 😥
@@Dez861 thank you
Missed you! I took a little break from true crime as I have been in a bad head space. Yet your video popped up and I couldn't say no.
Honestly, it's your humanity that draws me in. No on else pays the same respect to the victims as you do. The emotion in your voice is minimal, but clear. Your hard work does not go unnoticed. Thank you for sharing these stories. The victims deserve to be known, respected, and remembered. You do exactly this.
Same here! Hope you’re in a better headspace now :)
I agree with this!!! ❤️❤️
This comment ❤️❤️
I concur - the commitment and emotionalism
If the host actually had any heart for humanity she would instinctively know that a baby boy of 2 years old subjected to the abuse, rape and terror he experienced during his formative years is going to determine his actions for the rest of his existence. Is it his fault his mom gave him away when he was 2yrs old? His fault a bunch of boys decided to rape him with a bat? Who ever came to his aide? Who ever loved him? Protected him? Cared and nurtured him?
You all have a long way to go before you can claim to have a heart or care for humanity.
Wow. The amount of pain this man has caused is just unimaginable. I’m speechless
*monster. what a disgusting waste of a human life he was.
This case is completely heartbreaking. Suzanne and Michael both had so much potential and so much life to live and it was stolen for nothing. One of the most devastating cases I’ve heard
Great job, it definitely was hard to hear it all but you're research finally gives her justice and R.I.P to all those involved!!
My siblings in I grew up in such an abusive home that even as adults, we could find each other in a crowd by our rocking back and forth. As well educated adults, we still have self soothing behaviors. We are Engineers, University Educators, psychiatric nurses, professional musicians...etc. the horrific crimes committed against us have never been dealt with.
To me, it seems that you did well despite that horrible treatment and that's something to be proud of. There are a lot if very successful people that have been through a lot but you all made it out and chose to break the cycle. The jobs that you have tell me that they are a bit of therapy for you. I got my BS in Psychology because I have Bipolar Disorder. I feel that certain things give us more empathy and people feel that. People have always been drawn to me for a reason so I went ahead learned more about myself by going to school.
Take care of you
I appreciate the chronology of your rendition of this story.
The Girl in the Picture on Netflix started at the point that she was hit by the car.
Basically, when the authorities got involved.
And then they worked backwards from there.
It was so confusing to have the chronology so disjointed.
I appreciate that you started from the very beginning.
Thank you!
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Couldn’t agree more. I was really looking forward to watching Girl in the Picture after watching this, but it was so disorganized and difficult to follow.
After the opening scene they talked to someone who worked at the strip club, and then to Michael’s foster parents. I don’t understand why it’s presented that way. If you don’t know the story they seem like 4 random stories.
I personally think they were telling the story from the order they were getting information. Yes it was confusing, but at the time they didn’t have all this information at once and were giving it to us as they got it.
@@bayleemontana4647 yeah, no shit!
Lol
But the chronology was better this way.
That's exactly what I was saying.
It was better to hear the story this way, than the way they did it in the documentary.
when i heard the part where Michael's parents were able to reverse all the trauma he had and raised him with so much love and care, i couldn't help but burst into tears. There is really a special, special place for that monstrous man,
I don’t think you can necessarily reverse trauma, but there’s definitely ways to help and cope :)
@@elizabeth2621 perhaps @Ip really meant 2 say his developmental delays.
hell is too good for him
frrrrr
This is horrifying! I don't understand how people like this get away with this sort of behavior for so long, it's disgusting.
Girly missed you so much, can’t believe how much of my weekly routine you’ve become!
Omg yes! I kept checking my notifications and her channel on Sunday I was confused then I checked her community page I was like NOOOOOOO🫠
This is close to home for me, I live in Florida and it is a reality shock when you know the places that these things happened at. Danielle, your kindness and mindfulness that you possess makes these cases bearable to hear. As a criminology major, your videos inspire me to continue with my education and help this wicked world
Same 💔
Same 🤯🤯
@Hailey B. Congratulations on your criminology major, I hope you are doing well. And help fix our broken justice system.
@@MsWiccanpriestess thank you so much! I'm very excited and am trying my hardest ♥️♥️
@@haileyb.3211 Well, I am just offering if you ever need help with anything you can reach me on here.
That principal deserves to feel the regret he does. If you can't fight tooth and nail for a child you don't deserve to be in the possession of children.
I AGREE 💯
I always wonder, had the person (principal) said no, would the offender really risk killing them in broad daylight? I so wish there would have been a fight to save Michael. Just so horrible
I think he did refuse to give him the child otherwise why did he take the principal?
@@Snow-fy5wv The principal gave Michael to Franklin. Franklin took him to buy some more time before the principal reported him
I thought the same thing. He could’ve said he was going to get Michael, locked the classroom door, called authorities from the room and then alerted all class rooms to lock their doors. This wasn’t in a time where communication from room to room wasn’t available.
I saw the Netflix program about Suzanne and I remember I cried. I hurt so much for this girl and what she had been put through. Times have changed in the justice system but it still has so far to go. People who rape or are pedi’s can never be cured. They can never be reformed. It’s an ingrained compulsion that is as natural as breathing. I believe this with all my heart and if someone is put in prison for violence toward others, they will always be a danger and should be never be free. I will never forget Suzanne’s story.
This is honestly one of the most tragic cases i’ve ever heard. The fact Suzanne never ever made it out of that situation alive and found happiness and safety is so heartbreaking
Do you know mike?
@@szymixxf1191 who tf is mike?
Unfortunately, Suzanne's mother being a sex worker made the police look the other way. They likely thought Suzanne was "better off" with her "father". It wasn't very long ago in some ways, but it was a completely different world. What a heartbreaking story.
"Sex worker?" Is that what we are calling them now?"
@@Steve-nm9qy yes
Police still look the other way unless you are a celeb or rich.
@@rachelk5720 and white
It sucks that before the mother met that monster child services contacted Suzanne’s biological father to take her …but they made him an offer of all three girls or none…two weren’t even his ….at 23 he felt like he couldn’t take care of three kids …if they would have let him take just Suzanne this never would have happened
This case was unbelievable.. no justice for Suzanne or Michael. I am glad Michael at least got a few years of normalcy where he experienced love and affection. Thank you Danielle for the way you shed light on these cases and the victims involved. This was so well done
The fact that we don’t know what happened to Michael is so heartbreaking. And that awful man is dead so his parents will never know what happened to their baby boy 😢
She just did not deserve this. She deserved so much more. The stuff she went through is heartbreaking. This case is going to haunt me.
This was one of the most insane ones I’ve heard. Netflix is doing a documentary series here in the USA. The book “A beautiful child” broke my heart. Thank you for covering this case…. In another note, I love your podcast.
If you want a deeper understanding on some of the psychology in the way she handled this check out the books "strong at the broken places" and "the body keeps score" its fascinating how strong abused kids are. We develop coping skills normal folks can't even imagine.
Thank you for these book recommendations!
I wish to add “C-PTSD; From Surviving to Thriving”. Great book that looks into it as well.
Thank you for the reading recommendations
@@Stickit2daman Oh, I'm diagnosed with that lol. Thanks for the rec
Unbelievable! He got away with soooo much! All those ruined lives because of this psychopath. Huge tragedy. More people should have spoken up…like Franklin’s sick friends.
Thank you for bringing the story. It couldn’t be easy in many ways. 🥺
It seems there is no limit to the level of harm people are willing to inflict on each other... absolutely disgusting. I thank you for the diligent research and sensitivity that you put into your episodes. Your humanity speaks volumes. Great job!
Missed you last week!! The way you share cases is so classy and caring!
Also, please cover the case of Jenna Burleigh! She was a college student who transferred to a 4 year university in the US and was murdered within the first week there. Her story is a tragic example of the sad reality that women get killed for refusing sex.
It says a lot about Jennifer's character that she stayed friends with Suzanne after that traumatic night. I'm certain she knew something very sinister was going on and felt terrible for Suzanne and probably knew how important their friendship was for her sanity. Too young to really understand how to help her beyond that, but I'm sure that their friendship was something Suzanne was finally able to cherish.
I am certain, as well, that Franklin would make money (being on the run with a false identity is difficult, even back then, and it's hard to get a job that pays well) by selling Suzanne to friends and that clubbing incident reminds me a lot of a situation I was put in and it made me ill, like actually. My suspicion is close to Danielle's, who I think was pretty spot on, those were his "friends", but he may have been paid by the club to provide young girls for their patrons, or paid directly by the "friends" Sick shit like that really happens, every day, people like that exist in really disturbing numbers.
Poor, poor Suzanne. And her poor mother, to find all this out years later.
What most people refer to as "friend" describes someone they get along with and hang out with, but there's no real loyalty or trust. Jennifer was a real friend. As completely horrible as Suzanne's life was, at least she knew what it was like to be loved by someone, because that's what a real friendship is.
I know she was a kid too but she should have told someone. Her mom. It was unlikely that she was even allowed to go stay with her but her mom actually let her and so someone knew part of what Suzane was going through but she remained silent and she died just a few years later. It’s awful.
According to the documentary I saw on this story, her “father” WAS happy that she received a full scholarship to GA Tech. He actually took out a full page ad in her high school yearbook congratulating her on the scholarship. It wasn’t UNTIL she got pregnant that he got angered and told her she was not allowed to go to GA Tech and that’s when they up and moved.
Some of the cases you've covered have broken my heart but this one has brought me to tears. That man is the definition of a MONSTER. I don't care what happened to him when he was a little boy. There is no excuse for all of the evil he has done. He's going straight to hell!
You're absolutely right, but still don't forget that the majority of these monsters probably would be normal people if they didn't face such horrible childhoods. It's not an excuse, or a justification, but it's worth pointing out these sickos are broken people. That's why they do what they do. Some people are just born that way, but I think the majority of these monsters were created. Our minds are pretty frail, and pointing this out doesn't mean we think they're innocent or anything. It's just a simple fact that can't be ignored. I'd wager the mass majority of the most heinous monsters that have ever existed were created by abuse in their early years.
If our society cared more about child well-being I don't think we'd have nearly as many sickos like this absolute monster of a man. Pointing out how they got to be as sick as they are isn't trying to excuse or write off their behavior. It's just worth pointing out that that majority of these people had extremely violent abusive childhoods, and that's likely a cause of their sick demented minds.
They're still evil. They still should never be allowed out of prison, but it's worth pointing out, and more should be done to prevent it.
@@goodbher9244 Agreed. The point of true crime is to both learn what happened to the victims and to understand what led to the perpetrators' actions. Understanding isn't excusing.
He’s probably already in Hell right now. From what I’ve heard, child murderers/predators are shown no mercy by either prison guards or inmates.
@@Cure_Hana I'm even surprised he's still alive. I'd expect him to already be dead from the treatment in the prison. Then again, he's on death row, so I guess the inmates have only left him alive so that he gets executed later.
The sad thing is that the system still hasn't changed. You get more jail time for selling weed then you do for child predators. I was sexual abused for 5 years as a kid and I wasn't his first victim but he's still out there because his father works with the jail there so he didn't receive any jail time or charges.
My heart ❤ goes out to you Allesha. These sickos need castration.
i’m so sorry this happened to you. the system is truly horrible, and needs major fixing. i hope you are healing 💜
Sometimes I wish our jail system punished the way it was intended. Sexually abusing kids, rape and murder should be life sentences without parole.
I hope you are healing, sweet girl
I'm so sorry ❤
This case had me shook. Literally one of the worst I've heard covered. Thank you for not shying away from the details and treating your listeners like adults.
Thank you for this case coverage! I tried to watch the netflix documentary but honestly felt so confused I gave up. Your video was so cohesive and made things so much clearer. This case is absolutely wild and heartbreaking. Subscribing to you for more thorough coverage! I appreciate this!
First of all you have great content!
I am a person who was severely abused by my mother and abandoned by the time I was three years old. I am now a successful PI. Having a horrible childhood is no excuse for crime. I’ll repeat having a horrible childhood is no excuse for crime.
I agree. Our past doesn't define us. It's what we make of it that shows our true character.
As a mother to a little girl, this hit me hard. The unknown of what my little baby with go through, and I just HOPE and will try to protect her with every fiber of my being...
You covered such a conundrum of a case so well. Somehow you kept it linear and understandable. Thank you for the amazing work. You did an awesome job.
I have read and seen so many true crime stories, but this one...this one broke me. I thought I was passed crying but this one really rocked me to my core. This is what evil is. I will always remember her and her sweet son
Me too. It's so difficult to comprehend how some people can be so evil. Too many bright lights extinguished by such an unrepentant monster. Heartbreaking 😢
Wow my mom went to Forrest Park HS just 6 years before her. This is terribly sad and disturbing. What a monster he was. She is absolutely gorgeous and deserved the world.
you don't deserve
Both of my parents, my stepdad, & my grandparents went there as well.
ETA that I talked to my dad, and he told me that he, his cousin, and my uncle knew Suzanne as Sharon. My dad graduated in 1988 from Forest Park High School, and my uncle graduated from there in 1984. He said that truly no one knew she was going through anything.
What an absolute tragedy. Suzanne deserved more. That man is a monster. 💔
@@savrw
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Suzanne & my dad were at FPHS at the same time 🥺
Whew this guy is a whole other level of evil, actually unexplainable. Rip to all the beautiful victims.
it really hurt hearing about her dream school rescinding the scholarship. this hasn't stopped. in 2014 I had received a similar offer, and discovered I was pregnant. the university rescinded their offer stating they did not have student parent housing. I like to think of it not as a lost dream, but as an opportunity to be something better then I hoped- a mommy💕
So sorry you had to have that happen to you. Good luck to you and your new baby 💓
Wow I can't believe there is still this prejudice in 2014 wtf, well done you for embracing your life and child, I had an abortion at 17 to continue college and now at 34 I can't have children I wish I'd never made that choice.
What university was this?
This happened to me in 2017. I had a scholarship for MSU but chose my daughter instead
@@melissamarina4884 Did you seek legal advice? Can you sue? I feel like, if this type of behaviour would come to light things would change.
I absolutely love the way you talk about these cases. After watching so many RUclipsrs who cover true crime you can kind of tell when the information j becomes kind of robotic for them, but the sympathy and care you put into telling their stories really show ❤️
You've definitely researched this well and explained the story in a way that makes it so easy and clear to understand. Thank you! Was definitely more engaged in your take on the story compared to the Netflix doco.
The Blatant disregard he has for human lives is so sickening and heartbreaking. I bet this was a hard one to cover but definitely needed to be told. So terribly sad. Thanks so much for this one. It'll be interesting to see if Netflix can do a better job than Danielle... she's that good!!
Right!! She did an amazing job on this very complex story..I feel so terrible for these babies. He took their innocence and then their lives. A truly evil person. And I hope the lethal injection goes horribly wrong so he'll suffer his last moments on earth.
Netflix left out so many details! I’m glad I found this video!
I’ve read the books and his capital appeal. He seems to justify every horrible thing he’s done based on his upbringing that is if he does not straight up deny it.
Can we appreciate how Danielle always manages to match her nails with her makeup.
Also this case was so upsetting and I’m amazed Danielle managed to get through it x
I think the most impressive skill is how Danielle does these eye looks w/o any fallout or having to clean up w a Q-tip😱 all these beauty You Tubers, idk how they do it, it’s the bane of my existence!!!😩😩😩
I just followed you. I love the small bits of comedy you throw in the storyline to lighten up the mood. Great job! You're one of the better crime channels.
You were missed. Some great cases covered on this channel. I never used to care much about makeup but it’s fun watching you.
I stumbled upon your channel, and it's quickly becoming one of my favorites.
I love the details you go into in the stories, and you're able to bring them to life in a way others just can't do.
I also absolutely love the way you honor the victims at the end of each of your videos.
I'm obsessed with her channel. I binge everyday. This one though was difficult. But she's so respectful and genuinely hurts as well.
yess me too her and Eleanor neale
i literally have no words after just listening for an hour and a half to this horrific case… just down right disturbing, heartbreaking, and it just felt like there’s so much to unpack 😭 i’m like sitting here rethinking and trying to wrap my head around all the elements surrounding the person franklin is and the things he’s done, but still… my brain is overloaded rn this is one of the most insane cases i’ve known and i’ve been watching true crime documentary for years
This was the hardest case's I've ever heard 😢 Thank you Danielle for taking the time to cover it ❣️🙏 your heart is made of gold and it is bigger than anything I've ever seen ❤️ Sending you so much love and prayers 🙏❣️
I'm left speechless. Prayers to his many victims and their families.
I love when you do longer videos! the respect you always have warm my heart ♥️
Same! I prefer the longer ones. Like 2h 3hours
Me too!
I love the longer ones too! I usually listen to them to fall asleep and then listen again the next day, lol.
I love the longer ones too. Thank you for doing such an amazing and thoughtful job on this case.
Well done Danielle! Franklin is an absolute monster and it’s unbelievable that he was able to carry out all of those crimes. You did an amazing job summarizing that mind blowing story. I also just watched the Hulu story of Steven, the boy who was kidnapped and raised by his abductor. It’s shocking how these children are just enrolled in school and groomed to just act like they’re living a normal life. So sad how these beautiful children are robbed of a normal life and achieving their dreams
Just a Scottish lass who loves your channel! Just wanted to say the way you say "very" is soo cute!😂❤️
I’m always here for the deep dive long videos. Let’s go !!! Love you , Danielle ♥️
Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads !!!
I gave this a "like" not because I liked it but for engagement. You did an excellent job, as usual, of being incredibly respectful of the victims and I love how passionate and caring you are.
If this girl Suzanne was really brilliant, while living in a total bloody nightmare, can you imagine what she could hv done growing up in a nice, decent, loving, supportive family????? O.M.G.
Judges and authorities that let him walk so many times should be in jail along with him