How Star Trek: Enterprise Became So Controversial

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  • @jasonbourneistreadstone
    @jasonbourneistreadstone 13 дней назад +173

    Absolutely and it was cancelled just as it hit its stride. At least we have the Pocket novels to continue the story.

    • @silentsigma2917
      @silentsigma2917 13 дней назад +10

      Those awkward moments where they oil themselves in the decontamination chamber and we get those closeups always make me cringe so hard. But aside from that it has its moments...

    • @MrSkills123
      @MrSkills123 13 дней назад +9

      @@silentsigma2917I thought it was a great scene at the time!

    • @SnowyRVulpix
      @SnowyRVulpix 13 дней назад +9

      @@silentsigma2917 I think every Star Trek show has awkward moments like that.

    • @steveotten9473
      @steveotten9473 12 дней назад +4

      @@MrSkills123 It is still a great scene!!!!

    • @Kosh131
      @Kosh131 12 дней назад

      It took it four seasons to get to "Mediocre". Not good when you are talking about your fifth series.

  • @jacobkobald1753
    @jacobkobald1753 13 дней назад +54

    It was definitely underrated

  • @yelleryoung5870
    @yelleryoung5870 13 дней назад +34

    2nd best joke ever in Trek, a highly trained covert ops Klingon warrior, was taken down by a human farmer.
    I do not question the fear of humans Vulcans had.

    • @rainermraz8791
      @rainermraz8791 6 дней назад +1

      Yes. For me it was the best enterprise for ages

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 6 дней назад +1

      spec ops are not superhuman, same for klingons.

  • @stevew8513
    @stevew8513 13 дней назад +52

    I'm going to say it... Enterprise was my favorite Star Trek series. For some reason, it really clicked with me. The ships are all perfectly designed (at least the ones that aren't just reused CG models to save time and money), the characters are more raw and human, closer to reality than the utopian crews in other series, and when they finally bothered to get to worldbuilding they did a great job at it. Jeffrey Combs as Captain Sharon - another actor would have been interesting to watch, but Combs put so much character into his portrayal, it really brought the Andorians to life. You notice that Andorians are barely in Star Trek before Enterprise, just showing up in background crowd shots at most, and because of Combs doing such a great job fleshing out the personalities of Andorians, pretty much all Star Trek since then has Andorians front and center.

    • @lfrands
      @lfrands 11 дней назад +9

      I agree about the feel of the ship and Jeffrey Combs 100% and I think that the autocorrect from Shran to Sharon is drop dead hilarious 💖 very good.

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 5 дней назад

      The next nearest habitable world beyond Vulcan was Andoria. Just maybe that had something to do with it considering THIS was the beginning of Man's exploration of space. We didn't just drive past stuff we knew nothing about to get to more stuff we knew nothing about. :D

    • @JGARCIA2012FULL
      @JGARCIA2012FULL 2 дня назад +1

      Enterprice, like many Star Trek shows before, had a slow first few seasons and then began to raise the quality of the stories and the series in general, as long as the studios don't destroy the internal dynamics that have been created. With so much potential destroyed by the perennial shadow of cancellation, creativity is the first to die along with the commitment of the actors and writers. You can feel the changes and the beginning of the self-created implosion. How sad!

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 13 дней назад +75

    I enjoyed watching this series, alongside with Stargate, Farscape and even Firefly. Early 2000s sci-fi shows were the best during that time.

    • @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv
      @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv 13 дней назад +9

      SG1, SGA. Farscape
      So cool that Ben, Claudia were on SG1

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 13 дней назад +6

      I loved SG1 but Firefly is one of the greatest works of all sci-fi imo. But I've heard Farscape is good

    • @track1949
      @track1949 9 дней назад +7

      Babylon Five!! Don't forget it! 🎉

    • @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv
      @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv 8 дней назад +3

      YES LOVE B5

  • @matthewbain21
    @matthewbain21 13 дней назад +21

    I always thought Enterprise should have been the Lewis and Clark expedition in space.

  • @Butler195
    @Butler195 12 дней назад +7

    Season 4 was some of the best Trek ive ever seen.

  • @rac1061
    @rac1061 12 дней назад +13

    Modern trek makes Enterprise look great

  • @alchemist_x79
    @alchemist_x79 13 дней назад +34

    Meh, I loved Enterprise. My second favorite Trek series after DS9. Hell, marathon binges of ENT got me through a divorce. Minus the finale, of course, which I refuse to watch.

    • @keit99
      @keit99 12 дней назад +11

      What finale there was no finale

  • @claytonberg721
    @claytonberg721 13 дней назад +49

    I actually largely enjoy the first two seasons. I like the meandering pace and generally the low stakes.

    • @tnspnk3
      @tnspnk3 13 дней назад +13

      ""Do you remember when we used to be explorers?"

    • @ThatsMrPencilneck2U
      @ThatsMrPencilneck2U 12 дней назад +3

      I enjoyed the first two seasons, myself, but I found it really went down hill. The writing was never on par with StarGate.

    • @brianstiles1701
      @brianstiles1701 12 дней назад +10

      It was great at having low stakes, but making the galaxy feel like a dangerous place.

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 7 дней назад +6

    It's really my favourite of all Star Trek series. I felt more engagement with the characters and stories. And I'm a season 3/Xindi arc super fan.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 12 дней назад +5

    I binged Enterprise three years ago. It gets better and better every decade.

  • @SupAJ1M
    @SupAJ1M 13 дней назад +49

    It's definitely underrated...compared to the nonsense we've had the last 15 years

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 5 дней назад +1

      That 'is' a low bar :P Rose tinted glasses help us deal with the 'now'. Sad but true though - Still, growing up with Bakula as his series which used the old 60's 'Time Tunnel' concept left some show baggage - same guy, different 'leap'. This leap lasted 5 years.

  • @harrypothead42024
    @harrypothead42024 13 дней назад +7

    45:38 trip Tucker still lives

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther 13 дней назад +39

    T'Pol is one of my favorite Vulcans. Although it is true that Vulcans do have emotion and simply choose to suppress it, too many actors allows their emotion to bleed through in their performances. Tim Russ's Tuvok and Jolene Blalock's T'Pol do the best job of showing that struggle to suppress emotions.

    • @Aragorn7884
      @Aragorn7884 13 дней назад +2

      @@ArcaneEther 😉😏

    • @fearisthemind-killer
      @fearisthemind-killer 7 дней назад +2

      You leaving out my boy Leonard Nimoy? Those episodes where he is fighting off Nurse Chappel? The episode where he let slip he was happy to see Kirk alive, then had to bury it deep before McCoy could get off a few shots on him for showing joy?

    • @datacipher
      @datacipher 7 дней назад +2

      @@fearisthemind-killernah, he prefers Tim Russ’s absurd Vulcan who CONSTANTLY SHOWS emotion: the catch, he’s the Vulcan with only negative emotions: annoyance, anger, snideness, passive-aggressiveness, condescension, frustration….

    • @fearisthemind-killer
      @fearisthemind-killer 6 дней назад +1

      @@datacipher Literally lol right now. So true. 🤣

  • @randy4903
    @randy4903 13 дней назад +36

    I can't speak for other Trek fans, but
    I've got faith of the heart

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад +10

      Well, it's certainly been a long road...

    • @Aragorn7884
      @Aragorn7884 13 дней назад +1

      @@randy4903 😏

    • @stevendubin3584
      @stevendubin3584 13 дней назад +9

      @@ShonnDaylee getting from there to here

    • @agzane268
      @agzane268 13 дней назад +9

      @@stevendubin3584 it's been a long time..........

    • @susanscott8653
      @susanscott8653 8 дней назад +2

      *sticks fingers in ears*
      I'm not listening.

  • @thegrayshaws
    @thegrayshaws 12 дней назад +14

    We are just finishing watching and discussing it in my ST group and the most frequent discussions have been how different Vulcans are and how hot headed and racist (against Vulcans) Archer is. In my memory Archer is the noblest of Captains. The ST George Washington. But in reality he is highly flawed, which maybe makes him more human

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 5 дней назад

      I never saw him as racist as much as I saw his contempt for Vulcan government to manipulate us through well-measured advise, keeping secrets, and trying to get Earth to make the same choices as them - even if it meant subversion. With only a single representative present regularly, that individual took the brunt of his frustration often.

  • @CaptainJonathan
    @CaptainJonathan 13 дней назад +19

    I have often said, Enterprise is the Star Trek show with the most untapped potential. Small changes here and there would have elevated it significantly. Even taking it as it was though, I still enjoyed it, and unlike some fans I liked the first two seasons with some exception of course.

    • @chrischreative2245
      @chrischreative2245 10 дней назад +1

      What’s a few tweaks you would have made?

    • @CaptainJonathan
      @CaptainJonathan 10 дней назад +4

      @@chrischreative2245 1. Fix all the dialog and canon breaking errors (ie: 4 days to Qonos, Ferengi, etc). 2. Give Travis and Hoshi more character development. 3. Make the ship look more like the Conestoga, less like the Akira. 4. Lean into the earlier tech and time period and make use of those limitations rather than treat it like TNG-DS9-VOY. Make it more about humanity getting out there for the first time. 5. Earth Romulan war.
      There is more thoughts, but those are what pop into my mind at the moment.

    • @chrischreative2245
      @chrischreative2245 10 дней назад +5

      @@CaptainJonathan I agree with most of that. I def prefer Star Trek eras before they “figured everything out” and can just come up with things. Like archer saying when viewing Columbia that “we needed those weapons and a lot more”

  • @iulian-ovidiugeamanu4995
    @iulian-ovidiugeamanu4995 13 дней назад +84

    Enterprise is definately underrated. It is probably my favorite Star Trek series alongside DS9.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад +6

      At night, before bed, I alternate between episodes of DS9 and/or Enterprise. There's just something about those two series that keep me coming back, after all these years.

    • @FlatDerrick
      @FlatDerrick 13 дней назад +2

      Mine alongside Voyager. Everything since then except Lower Decks has been toilet.

    • @stankythecat6735
      @stankythecat6735 13 дней назад +3

      @@ShonnDayleeI do the exact same thing ! When I can’t get to sleep enterpise helps a lot

    • @stankythecat6735
      @stankythecat6735 13 дней назад +1

      @@FlatDerrickthis is true , enterprise looks amazing by compareison

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 13 дней назад +2

      @@FlatDerrick Voyager... claiming poor quality of new shows. No comment.

  • @jakedel1711
    @jakedel1711 13 дней назад +2

    Absolutely loved Cpt. Archer. watched this a few yrs back. was really upset it was cancelled and how it was received at the time.

  • @chrisfraser5088
    @chrisfraser5088 12 дней назад +6

    Definitely underrated. Honestly, this is the series that probably had the most potential. Unfortunately, the execution didn’t always hit the mark. Still, I have a soft spot for Enterprise.

  • @MrAndyBearJr
    @MrAndyBearJr 13 дней назад +8

    The questionable actions taken by Captain Archer had far greater ramifications than just the preservation of Earth. The survival of the galaxy or at least a good sized portion of it hinged on the success or failure of the Enterprise and her crew. Had they not succeeded in their mission, hundreds, perhaps thousands of civilizations would have been wiped out in a mass genocide perpetrated by the sphere builders. Weighing these few questionable actions by Archer and his crew against the horrible consequences of failure, his actions are damn near negligible by comparison.

    • @cm275
      @cm275 9 дней назад +2

      Archer’s actions are pretty tame compared to what would actually happen. Humans are capable of unspeakable brutality to each other, what do you think we would do to a completely separate species that threatened us? Warhammer 40k is a more likely outcome than the UFP.

    • @fearisthemind-killer
      @fearisthemind-killer 7 дней назад

      I'm surprised Archer didn't have major mental issues by the end of the Xindi threat. I expected major bouts of PTSD.

  • @RonHarrisMe
    @RonHarrisMe 13 дней назад +8

    Story Time - It was the year, 1970. I was 7 years old, sitting in front of a 13-inch color television, my families very first one. I turned on one of the 4 channels we had, and there it was, Star Trek. It was then, I knew my life was going to change. The number of repeats I have watched, over the next 53 years, are MASSIVE. Since the availability of watching all shows, of all seasons, I am somewhere near 22 times. 22 times I have watched, every episode and every season of ST, ST:NG, ST:V, ST:E and ST:D9. Funny enough, that's the exact order I like them.
    When I speak of Star Trek, it is with LOVE. Pure and simple. It has been a part of my life more than anything other than my parents. Even at my age, I have left behind scheduled TV. Each year, sometimes twice a year, I will rewatch every single episode of all the Star Trek on my list. Yes, like most, I have removed ST:D from my timeline. I have only added ST:SNW and Picard S3 to my list.
    I have learned, through the decades, to try to keep each Star Trek in its own bottle. I watch them as if I have never seen any Star Trek at all. Why you say? Because there is nothing to take away the wonder of each Star Trek I watch. No timeline problems, no lore issues, just pure Star Trek.
    Enterprise or Star Trek:Enterprise if you will, in the beginning had all the right people and all the right types of shows. As a lot of TV was doing at the time, they were trying to move to a more seasonal theme, an overarching storyline, which was a giant mistake. For those normal fans, still watching appointment TV, if they missed an episode they would get lost, miss too many, then they just stopped watching, and I think THAT'S what TRULY happened to Star Trek Enterprise.
    I am going to pretend OR didn't say that Sisko was the G.O.A.T of Captains. I chose to believe he was tried and on MUSHROOMS. Have a good one. The End.

    • @richardvinsen2385
      @richardvinsen2385 12 дней назад +2

      You watch every episode of five different shows twice a year? That’s about 75 days a year. How do you have time to do anything else?

    • @datacipher
      @datacipher 7 дней назад

      @@richardvinsen2385shhh…. Narcissist is busy trying to get attention…..

  • @ToesToJesus
    @ToesToJesus 12 дней назад +3

    I loved Enterprise. I hated all the time war cr*p but LOVED the in depth explorations of the original Federation races!

  • @jlevogiani2012
    @jlevogiani2012 9 дней назад +1

    _Enterprise_ is a vastly underrated show. There were enough callbacks to previous shows to satisfy "that sort" of fan, without being hobbled by such callbacks. Also, given that it was a prequel to TOS, the technology and ship design was appropriately more primitive. If anything, I would've preferred an even _more_ claustrophobic vison of NX-01 than what we got--more like a submarine. Although the Temporal Cold War plot dragged on too long (it should've been wrapped up by the end of the first season), it was not a bad idea. The show ended at least one season too soon, as a 5th season would no doubt have seen the founding of the Federation. Overall, the acting was more natural than in previous Trek shows, and the stories often gave a different perspective on familiar Trek lore.

  • @Nitro_Joe
    @Nitro_Joe 13 дней назад +16

    Star Trek without the Prime Directive!? Awesome!

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 13 дней назад +1

      They actually did have Prime Directive.

    • @Nitro_Joe
      @Nitro_Joe 13 дней назад +1

      @@TheRezro My apologies, I meant Starfleet Command General Order 1.

  • @SatoshiMatrix1
    @SatoshiMatrix1 13 дней назад +14

    Enterprise had real potential to the best Trek series of its time but squandered it with such uneven writing it made even Voyager blush. I like only certain episodes and concepts from both the first two seasons and always felt somewhat annoyed about all the new species of aliens ENT introduced only for them to be nowhere to be found in future series - especially Dr. Phlox species, the Denobulans. They're great and all, but they should have been an existing Trek species, perhaps one mentioned but not seen in TOS or TNG.
    Season 3 is kick-ass. Archer's very morally gray actions serve to demonstrate that like the theme song goes, "It's been a long road, getting from there to here". He does things no other Star Trek captain ever would, and that makes him flawed, and that makes him believable.
    In regards to season 4, in many ways it feels like what Enterprise should have been in season 1 without so much of the BS episodes that are wasting everyone's time being TNG or Voyager 2.0. It is a shame the show didn't get a fifth season, exploring the purposed concept that T'pol finds out she is half Romulan and that is why she had such trouble being totally Vulcan and the NX Class getting a refit to make it look more like future Trek hero ships. That said I can understand why ENT was cancelled. People were getting tired of Star Trek retreading ground vs being new and original. I didn't feel that way but I also liked Voyager when it aired and was obvious to its numerous flaws at the time.

    • @gloriathomas3245
      @gloriathomas3245 8 дней назад +1

      Enterprise had some of the best writing ever for Star Trek show

    • @seanmcgrath3826
      @seanmcgrath3826 8 дней назад +1

      @@gloriathomas3245 Yes it did. But it also had some of the worst writing at times too.
      That said, I still enjoy it very much, & wish we'd gotten a season 5 at least

  • @jasper-od3dv
    @jasper-od3dv 7 дней назад +1

    Enterprise was my first Star Trek show and it's definitely underrated! It can get a little cringey with the 2000s jingoism and of-era tropes, but it's way more interesting than, say, Discovery ever was.

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999 13 дней назад +17

    I love "Enterprise" and wish it had gone on to 7 seasons. It is better by far in my opinion than any Star Trek that has been made since.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад +5

      💯

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 13 дней назад

      I would have liked it, but I don't think Braga and Berman could have come up with enough material.

    • @patricktilton5377
      @patricktilton5377 8 дней назад +3

      @@nitehawk86 The Reeves-Stevens duo could have. Bringing them onboard was what made the final season especially memorable, helping to tie the show to the TOS-era. It's a shame they cancelled the show right before the timeline would have had the outbreak of the Earth-Romulan War.

  • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
    @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 13 дней назад +7

    It's criminally underrated. I like many of them to much to say one is my favorite but I will say the acting, plot, and story telling were top notch. I usually hate shows that go backwards so that's saying something. Like I still loath the early seasons of discover but they did a smart move in the time jump of classifying it all into never having happened thus the plot issues were fixed. Just... the Klingons man, no. Anywho Enterprise was awesome.

  • @FMK03
    @FMK03 10 дней назад +3

    @OrangeRiver
    38:35 - 39:06
    The problem with what you're saying is that Ep 6 of Season 5 (Trials and Tribble-ations) of DS9 established that that isn't the case, when the defiant crew time travelled back in time to Ep 15 of Season 2 (The Trouble with Tribbles) of TOS and Cisco, Worf, Bashir, O'Brien, Odo and Jadzia went to Deep Space Station K-7 to capture present Darvin which presented us with the following:
    1.That Worf had to cover his forehead Klingon ridges.
    2.That past Koloth, Korax and every other Klingon in "Trials and Tribble-ations" look exactly the way they did when "The Trouble with Tribbles" aired 57 years ago.
    3.That Bashir, O'Brien, and Odo didn't even recognize past Korax and the rest of the Klingons aboard Deep Space Station K-7 as being Klingon, and were, in fact, surprised to learn that they were Klingons.
    4. That Worf's "explanation" was "They ARE Klingons, AND it is a long story".
    5. That O'Brien and Bashir theorized that it was "some kind of Genetic Engineering" and "a Viral Mutation", respectively.
    Honestly, what ENT did with these "explanations" in the 15th and 16th Eps of Season 4 of ENT, "Affliction" and "Divergence" was nothing short of a creative way to incorporate the theories of both O'Brien and Bashir into one and creatively handle the issue with what DS9 showed and established, which didn't explain anything and just basically said Mas Kanata's infamous DW: TFA line: "A good question, for another time"; or the equally infamous Poe Damron DW: TROS line: "Somehow, Palpatine returned"

    • @OrangeRiver
      @OrangeRiver  10 дней назад +3

      Yeah that's fair-- at least the Enterprise episodes were following up on what had been only hinted at before. That said, I suppose I also have an issue with "Trials and Tribble-ations" reinforcing the visual literalism that lots of Trek fans have become obsessed with, and a reason they scream about Discovery ship designs in my comments lol

  • @laserswordguy9090
    @laserswordguy9090 13 дней назад +5

    I think it was bad because whenever I talk to anyone its always the same episodes they remember. Mirror darkly and they lump the entire Xindi arc together so its nostalgia and action. Enterprise doesn't have episodes on the level of Measure of a man, Inner light, Tapestry, Darmok, Duet, Waltz, The wire, In the pale moonlight, The cloud, Timless, message in a bottle.... basically if ships are not blowing nobody cares with enterprise. All the other shows had sweet action stuff but they also could make a good episode about characters talking.

  • @iceman11766
    @iceman11766 13 дней назад +4

    Enterprise has more watchable episodes per season than discovery has watchable seasons. (2)

  • @JoeCroninSHOW
    @JoeCroninSHOW 13 дней назад +7

    I LOVE IT its my 2nd Fav TREK next to TNG the problem with it is the ENDING kinda sad how the last 3 episodes play out but I love it still I HOPE they can bring it back for a 2 part or 3 part movie series to clean it up maybe

  • @tubularbill
    @tubularbill 12 дней назад +1

    I was not a fan of the series at first. But then through reruns and watching the series repeatedly, it’s probably my second favorite of all the Star Trek franchise series next to TOS. The episode where T’Pol talks about her ancestor being in Pennsylvania is one of my all-time favorite Star Trek episodes.

  • @l4xx03luyf6l0to
    @l4xx03luyf6l0to 12 дней назад +5

    I like Enterprise. It was cancelled too soon. I just hate the theme song and the finale.

    • @robertfrancois6064
      @robertfrancois6064 9 дней назад +1

      😂that song stinks! Do you remember when they spead it up?

    • @seanmcgrath3826
      @seanmcgrath3826 8 дней назад

      @@robertfrancois6064 I liked the theme okay until the sped up/remix version came along; then it just sucked

  • @Vattghern_
    @Vattghern_ 8 дней назад +1

    The last true Trek and the best prequel ever made, the early 2000s were great - we had Enterprise and BSG, sadly we didn't know how good we had it and how deplorable the future truly is

  • @bert949
    @bert949 13 дней назад +11

    I really liked the set design for Enterprise.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад +1

      They obviously put a lot of thought into what things would look like, in the Prime Trek Timeline, in that era. From the uniforms, to the ship, to the attitudes. Everything really fits what I would think the aesthetics/politics of the time would be.

  • @MatD1979
    @MatD1979 13 дней назад +14

    Enterprise was okay, pretty sophisticated. I would like to see some connective tissue with SNW. Maybe a T'Pol cameo?

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 13 дней назад +7

      I support that. They should also make Romulan War series.

    • @rickjohnston2667
      @rickjohnston2667 12 дней назад +1

      Yes, or Phlox or Archer!

  • @mikegilgenbach4840
    @mikegilgenbach4840 12 дней назад +1

    Ive never understood the shade thrown at this show. I found it thoroughly entertaining with great characters. My only problem was I thought they jumped the gun on the Xindi storyline which should have come later in the series.

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk 13 дней назад +13

    Generally, yes, there are certain parts that definitely fell short but had they been given a chance, I suspect they’d have hit their stride.
    Also, Shran needed his own show, movie, series, starship, army, planet, galaxy, hell, give him the entire universe.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад

      Shran is one of the best characters in the entire Star Trek franchise. It's an absolute crime he was never further fleshed out on screen. Apparently, the writers had plans for him to be much more prominent, in Season 5 onwards, but we all know what happened....

    • @josoffat7649
      @josoffat7649 11 дней назад

      Ony 4 seasons, why did they just not give it a chance... 🤦‍♂

  • @bmatt2626
    @bmatt2626 13 дней назад +1

    The ship barely works, we're the worst at space exploration, and Vulcans are dirty AF. I freaking love Enterprise.

  • @Not_An_Alien
    @Not_An_Alien 13 дней назад +1

    It's a great series, I feel bad I didn't give it a chance when it came out, just because of the theme song.

  • @coyotetu
    @coyotetu 13 дней назад +1

    Enterprise didn't have nearly enough missions requiring T'pol to be liberally applied with the decon gel.

  • @whoshotdk
    @whoshotdk 13 дней назад +8

    The first season’s portrayal of bumbling humans going out into the galaxy for the (mostly) first time was something that really resonated with me. The Xindi arc was fine, though I think it dragged on a bit too much.
    Season 4 felt like they were just banging out episodes to get them done, but there were still good ones. The way that the very last episode shat all over the series was a goddamn crime.

    • @ivarwind
      @ivarwind 13 дней назад +1

      Season 3 *is* the Xindi arc!

    • @whoshotdk
      @whoshotdk 13 дней назад

      @@ivarwind Let me help you with that. I will separate the paragraphs. Edit: Done. Better now? 😛

  • @danielmullin9458
    @danielmullin9458 13 дней назад +11

    Its been a long time. getting from here to there

  • @t.stephen5086
    @t.stephen5086 12 дней назад +1

    Apart from TOS it's my favourite.
    Whilst some of the stories in the earlier seasons were lack lustre, it picked up massively later. The acting was top notch especially guests Gary Graham & Jeffrey combes as Shran.

  • @_trudge
    @_trudge 13 дней назад +2

    i feel sad when i think about the avians :( who were they and what were they like . we will never know

  • @matthewbain21
    @matthewbain21 13 дней назад +1

    When the 4th season was airing, I had Firefly, Battlestar Galatica and Enterprise, Enterprise was a distant 3rd.

  • @danaut3936
    @danaut3936 13 дней назад +23

    Yup, very underrated!

  • @captainarcher2
    @captainarcher2 13 дней назад +9

    Flox didn't invent the Agony Booth. Major Reid, (Lt. Reid) did.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 12 дней назад +1

    Since 2009 (J.J.) the real Trek just gets better, exponentially speaking.

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 12 дней назад

    Editing to say T-pols grey outfit and shorter hair in earlier seasons was a terrific look
    9:00 great observation. It's all strange and kinda scary for we humans, getting our first real taste of the 'galactic community,' but it's just another space port for the Vulcan.
    This scene helps temper the excitement of people like Trip who are almost overwhelmed by how different it is. It also makes the voyage into the Expanse, a place that even the Vulcans only have scary, ambiguous reports on, feel like truly taking a step into the unknown

  • @davidalan6701
    @davidalan6701 11 дней назад

    I was one of those who grew up watching TNG irregularly, just because I was the only one in the house interested, and I was too young to really follow a schedule, and didn’t really know about DS9 or Voyager. But Enterprise really rekindled my love of trek and it’s still one of my favorites.

  • @mrzugpug
    @mrzugpug 12 дней назад +7

    DS:9 is easily the most underrated of all the Star Trek series.

    • @seriousoldman8997
      @seriousoldman8997 6 дней назад

      Depends which fan channel you watch. DS9 is my all- time favourite with Enterprise a close second.

  • @eligoldman9200
    @eligoldman9200 13 дней назад

    Honestly I fucking love the captains dynamics and how they don’t see themselves necessary as a military craft, besides maybe Malcom’s. The conflict between the space marines and the crew during the Xindi arc is some of my favorite:

  • @Ev1lHaX0r
    @Ev1lHaX0r 13 дней назад +10

    So much missed potential in this show but I still like it.

  • @bananaheals
    @bananaheals 12 дней назад

    Grew up about an hour from broken bow. Wound up working about 15 minutes away. Blows me away that they picked that town. Nothing happens there except tornadoes.

  • @CaptainKwame1773
    @CaptainKwame1773 12 дней назад

    Enterprise is the only series that had to establish its world. TOS gave so much canon fodder for the TNG era, which ENT may be included in technically, but the world had to be completely revised. For instance, the Vulcans and Humans were closer to clashing than friends in this era, and the writers had to imagine how to tell these stories. The way they play on these tensions, exploring the Alpha Quadrant, meeting Andorians and Tellerites, so much more, all had to be creative and inventive. Such a really good show and a lot of thought went into these early years, which makes the relationships in the later-era shows feel full. The mirror universe episodes are Chef's kiss!

  • @jovetj
    @jovetj 12 дней назад

    38:48 Exactly. Makeup and prosthetics have improved over the 30 years since TOS. It's not that difficult to just pretend they were always "ridged."

  • @CarnelianClout
    @CarnelianClout 5 дней назад

    I personally like the in-universe explanations for the Klingon appearances

  • @Aragorn7884
    @Aragorn7884 13 дней назад +7

    TBH though Season 1 was rough AF 😬

    • @sujoygupta2922
      @sujoygupta2922 11 дней назад

      Haha, true, but I unashamedly declare that Season 1 had some of my favourite episodes from the series. (Vox Sola is actually my favourite ENT episode...I make no friends whenever I tell anyone this)

  • @andrewlonghofer
    @andrewlonghofer 5 дней назад

    35:44 The augment kids dressing like the WOK augments always bugged me because they literally only dressed that way because of what was available on the Botany Bay. They weren’t dressed like that in Space Seed.

  • @shophet125
    @shophet125 12 дней назад

    47:51 It has been said that only the good die young. This is certainly true for Enterprise which was criminally overlooked and underrated. I am glad that more people are warming up to it over time.

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 13 дней назад

    I had faith in my heart that in the long road, ENT would be recognised as a great Trek series

  • @understatedwalrus
    @understatedwalrus 12 дней назад

    I'd say it's aged the best out of the spinoffs. Absolutely love it.

  • @jamessmyth3952
    @jamessmyth3952 10 дней назад

    I always thought the animosity toward vulcans was childish however, I do appreciate that there were many episodes that did not portray Vulcans in the best of light or just downright deceitful

  • @TheNationalRealEstatePost
    @TheNationalRealEstatePost 13 дней назад +7

    just started this show.

    • @GwydionsAstralCoffeehouse
      @GwydionsAstralCoffeehouse 13 дней назад

      I'm jealous! I just finished my 3rd re-watch :)

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 13 дней назад

      @@GwydionsAstralCoffeehouse I'm jealous! Only 3 times!? That ship sailed a LONG time ago, for me.

  • @RunToEternity
    @RunToEternity 13 дней назад

    To use a term a band called Fields of the Nephilim used for their song,
    I think Enterprise was the Last Exit for the Lost,
    the song title.

  • @rubenp8320
    @rubenp8320 13 дней назад

    love your series. much love and wish you all the success. thanks for the video from a non-trekie!

  • @Drew-t8y
    @Drew-t8y 12 дней назад

    Hello. Regarding the klingons, people used to be super obsessed with continuity in star trek. I think the time war stuff has done much to let people relax about that.

  • @MrTooTyO
    @MrTooTyO 13 дней назад +3

    Love Tylers views of Star Trek, specially in retrospect. Now do Discovery. I know its not that long since last episode was out, but is all done now so why not.

  • @Sacromento80085
    @Sacromento80085 13 дней назад

    Ambassador Suval is my most favorite Star Trek character by far. Shram is a close second.

  • @gabrielmorin2060
    @gabrielmorin2060 13 дней назад

    We can't complaint about stories been revisited by other series, They all did, from STNG to Strange new world. A lot of it was approach in STO and it's good to go back with a new perspective.

  • @ConnieAlexander-m5s
    @ConnieAlexander-m5s 9 дней назад

    I loved this show and was heartbroken when it was prematurely canceled. 😢

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 5 дней назад

    Golden age sci fi. Should never have Been cancelled

  • @arnorrian1
    @arnorrian1 13 дней назад +2

    I loved the books that take place after the fourth seasons. Some started storylines were explored, like the automatic repair station, and the Earth-Romulan war and the formation and early growth of the Federation are covered.

    • @balung
      @balung 13 дней назад +1

      What was the name of the novel that covers the Repair station? Would like to read it.

    • @arnorrian1
      @arnorrian1 13 дней назад +1

      @@balung Several of them, it's a huge empire behind it.

  • @nutherefurlong
    @nutherefurlong 12 дней назад

    Yeah, starting from the ground up in a way is what I really dug about Enterprise. I didn't manage to keep with it long enough but I loved examining these fragile early days. It's unfortunate that they couldn't keep up with canon, but I haven't talked to enough Trek fans who DID stick with it what they wound up not liking, other than canon things. Trek does tend to make following canon rewarding, which I think is what it should be about, a bonus for paying attention, so I can see why some resented apparent changes

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 2 дня назад

    You forgot we for the name phaser which is a Vulcan name from the the episode where they get stuck on the stormy planet and have to hide in a cave

  • @indetigersscifireview4360
    @indetigersscifireview4360 12 дней назад

    I think that Archer's character was played rather well as this naive Earther who fell for the idea that, sufficiently advanced species would "use their words" to solve problems. This human ideal forgets that most sufficiently advanced species are probably apex predators on their home worlds. Also, in the case of the Klingons, luck can lead to less advanced species getting hold of high tech.
    For the series finale I would have liked to have seen a two part episode where the Enterprise and Warp Delta ship are testing the borders of the Klingons, in order to map out what the Klingons claim is their territory and what they would defend as their territory. Meanwhile the Columbia and NX-03 would be doing the same for the Romulan territory. The ships getting into skirmishes with Klingon ship(s)/Romulan ship(s). All the while Archer is getting mysterious coded messages from Starfleet which causes rising tension in the crew. The end of the first part would be a battle between the Earth ships and Klingon and Romulan ships. Shran shows up with Andorian ships to save the day. A Klingon ship transmits a message to Earth "speaking" for the Klingon and Romulan empires stating that the coalition of planets has provoked them far enough and no more probing into their territories will not be tolerated. Starfleet orders the coalition ships back to Earth. In the second episode the crew really begin to speculate about the messages from Starfleet especially after it's discovered that a new agreement has been reached between the Klingons and Romulans to share technology. The conclusion is in Earth orbit when Archer reveals that all the mysterious messages have been Archer and Starfleet discussing promotions/transfers for the crew. The final scene is the bridge crew getting on the turbolift while there replacements take their place on the bridge of the Enterprise.

  • @jellymop
    @jellymop 12 дней назад

    My two favorite Star Trek series’ are TNG and Enterprise. I was super bummed when it wasn’t renewed in 2006. It was different, more fitting to modern thought and comedy of the time. I also liked its take on story telling and anomalous phenomena encountered along their journey.

  • @austinfisher1015
    @austinfisher1015 11 дней назад

    What really pissed me off about the series finale is how Diana and Riker spoiled that Trip dies at the beginning of it. It was such a huge slap in the face for me.

  • @Malkiore1
    @Malkiore1 13 дней назад +2

    I personally was just sick of prequal's about Star Trek. I was one of the many who wanted sequel edition's added to the franchise. I will say that Star Trek Strange New World's has really made me happy they stuck with it in this particular series. It also helped that they did move forward with the series Picard which is what many of us had been waiting for. I had very little I was not happy about when it came to that series. I was not that big a fan of the whole "Son Of Soong" character and really hated that they just slapped the name Enterprise onto an older ship and not a new updated flag ship but it is what it is. These are little gripe's so maybe not worth a mention but the big gripe's would be the unfinished explaination of just wth was trying to punch a whole into our galaxy that it needed a Borg security guard always keeping watch or an explaination on just why Q was dying. The Q drying part really confused me being he apparently was so weak he could snap his finger's and make Guinan vanish or use his power's when he was sitting at the cafe yet some how was able to send Picard and the other's back to their timeline while also resurrecting Romulan Legolas from the dead. People say that Q's appearance at the end confused them but I just thought that maybe the Q we saw who was sick was actually from further down the timeline and the Q we saw deal with Picards Son was the current Q. Either way I do hope that Star Trek Strange New World's is the last of the prequel's and they move on with sequel's like they did with Picard.

  • @pourquoicbon
    @pourquoicbon 12 дней назад

    Yes it is. A few week spots early on, but one of the best Trek series ever made, and the closest to capturing the feel of TOS. Still dream about that fifth season...

  • @worf7680
    @worf7680 11 дней назад

    Commenting before watching cause I KNOW Tyler's bout to bring the heat.

  • @tnspnk3
    @tnspnk3 13 дней назад +1

    Not to be overly critical, but a couple things you said made me wonder if you'd watched the whole series. First, Dr Phlox is a member of the Denobulan species. The "O" in the word is a long O, pronounced like the letter by itself (like the O Own or Omit). If you've only seen the word I could understand you getting wrong, but not if you'd watched the series.
    The other thing was your statement about T'Pol having trouble controlling her emotions. T'Pol had Very good control of her emotions, except when she was or had been, influenced by some outside influence. Like a forced mind meld by someone inexperienced, or like the Expanse, which drove the entire ship of Vulcans mad. It was established any Vulcan would be affected; they were affected by that area of space (among other problems it caused). I believe the last season explanation of how Vulcans got where they were at the time works well. The teachings of Surak being lost, so being left (somewhat) open to current leaders personal interpretation. Whether you attribute the High Council's fall due to ambition or simply being mislead into a path they thought was best is open to discussion.

    • @OrangeRiver
      @OrangeRiver  12 дней назад

      I have seen every episode of Enterprise multiple times, yes... I'm sorry I didn't pronounce a fictional alien species' name perfectly and put more emphasis than you were comfortable with on the times T'Pol objectively does slip up regulating her emotions (be it from outside influences or not)

  • @Benman2785
    @Benman2785 2 дня назад

    î would really love if they made the "standard" 7 seasons for "Enterprise"

    • @Benman2785
      @Benman2785 2 дня назад

      my list:
      #1 ENT (i love how it all started with Vulcans and Andorians)
      #2 Voyager
      #3 DS9
      #4 TOS
      #5 TNG (crippled by first 2 seasons)
      #6 Picard
      #7 Strange new Worlds
      #8 Lower Decks
      #9 Short Treks
      #10 Prodigy
      #11 The Animated Series
      #12 Discovery (WAY too much Character-Drama - not enough SciFi)

  • @PongoXBongo
    @PongoXBongo 13 дней назад

    I loved the imperfect humanity/Vulcans of Enterprise. As in real life, it takes time to figure things out and to mature. The wonky proto-tech was a plus as was the lack of a codified Prime Directive. It felt more grounded and "real" than the later utopian versions of Trek.

  • @ComradePhoenix
    @ComradePhoenix 12 дней назад

    I think the Temporal Cold War was, in retrospect, one of the best possible things Berman and Braga could have written, both in terms of Enterprise, and for the future of the franchise as a whole. [flextape meme goes here]
    I mention the flextape meme, but I do unironically think its a great way to address most possible questions about inconsistencies across the various shows (and Strange New Worlds, which ACTUALLY found its footing the fastest out of any Trek series to date, don't @ me, used it to great effect).
    Honestly? The biggest misstep the writers took? Not starting out the show as a direct leadup to the Romulan war.

  • @MarcioHuser
    @MarcioHuser 13 дней назад +1

    Haven't played yet, but I have a short answer for the title: yes. When it was released on Netflix I rewatched it thinking how good each episode was, and started question myself: why did I ride the "hate wave" back in the time?

    • @zav3760
      @zav3760 13 дней назад +1

      The terrible theme song maybe?

    • @MarcioHuser
      @MarcioHuser 13 дней назад

      @@zav3760 I gotta say: I never disliked it 🤷🏽‍♂

  • @kendrickl5913
    @kendrickl5913 12 дней назад +2

    nothing makes enterprise look better than comparing it to nu trek

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 13 дней назад

    But fr, the ENT uniforms are one of the best touches in the series. Combined with all the computer monitors running some ugly future-DOS type of OS it is very atmospheric. Still, the 2D LCARS Okuda screens are too iconic to not be the best

  • @jack-spade5647
    @jack-spade5647 13 дней назад

    Living on our own me and my friends never had a moment to watch TV or video games... two jobs and school we was so out of touch. I'm just getting to catch up on star trek shows I missed out on. Totally watch every old star trek and next gen and some ds9. Big list of star trek to catch up on.

  • @adamparra3973
    @adamparra3973 13 дней назад +2

    Thanks for this video. I love ENT! I love the Xindi arc. I will always be mad a Flox for not giving that antidote to those poor people. I understand that Billingsly feels the same way.

  • @shaindaman13
    @shaindaman13 12 дней назад +1

    Enterprise was VERY underrated. It was my favorite Trek series by far. None of the others come close. Maybe TNG.

  • @donmcc6573
    @donmcc6573 13 дней назад

    Major interactions with alien species that were never mentioned in any of the other series.

  • @WoobiewookieBlogspot
    @WoobiewookieBlogspot 11 дней назад

    Wow, so great to see comments from so many who actually enjoyed this series. For me, just the premise (a return to pre-Federation days) is attractive enough. Fleshing out a faulted humanity that hadn't yet reached the socialist/pseudo-socialist utopia (sort of) of chronologically later series was what I really wanted from Star Trek, post TNG. I really appreciate your analysis and the observation that the lore of the Eugenics War(s?) was a far cry from the philosophies of actual eugenicists, was a unique treat. I honestly can't think of anyone else who had that observation. Great work, and good to know I am not alone in my love for this particular series.

  • @gloriathomas3245
    @gloriathomas3245 8 дней назад

    Actually loved Enterprise for the fact it took a different completely direction compared compared to other Star Trek shows.

  • @letsgogarden2284
    @letsgogarden2284 День назад +1

    I enjoyed Enterprise FAR more than DS9 or VOY.

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 12 дней назад

    Fully agree this show is underrated. Three big fixes that would make the show great:
    1) Don’t make it a Star Trek series! Instead, make it an original UPN sci-fi series in the production style of Star Trek, by Berman and Braga, where you have a clean slate to build whatever lore you want.
    2) Instead of Mayweather as a younger junior officer, lean into the experience space boomer more, and make him an older, grizzled man who could never get a promotion on a freighter, and Archer makes him Chief of the Boat.
    Think Royce Applegate in “SeaQuest DSV”.
    3) Bring Shran onto the ship by Season 2, and the Tellerite bounty hunter aboard by Season 3. Have Enterprise replace its lost crewmen with the disgraced, exiled, or otherwise disenfranchised officers from the other worlds that found the Federation.