as a new player i like how you started with the basics because i didnt even understand harvest that much at first lol, also many guides are older where the info on monster harvest packs says different stuff
Gameplay wise I think the mechanic is fine, Crop Rotation brings some more decision making to it as well. Anyway I would really love to see some powerful Harvest craft, cause right now most of them are a shadow of their former self!@@ibulleti7948
Hello from Brazil! I love to make my math during my gameplay and strategies. I liked your video style and edition!!! I'll follow you mate!!! Please, keep doing this amazing job! Our "rats of farming" need it! Thank you!!!!!
Thank you man! Future content will cover an updated for high budget MF builds for League and Standard, MF tips & tricks and some more non-MF related stuff like this video
If your build can run it you can use expedition on your map with the new big explosion to be still super fast. Expedition profits from the same modifiers as harvest: pack size and quant
@@Jinryougoa good solution can be removing ess and going with chance to get expedition. Ive been running ess, exp, beast farming and its almost 100% of the time i get an expedition.
THANKYOU SO MUCH! omg I'm averaging 8divs/hour with this strat, its absolutely insane, maybe I'm getting lucky with yellow crops but holy cow even if its other colour its still around 4k lifeforce PER MAP, this is broken af
3.24 Update: I will soon release a new version of this video for Necropolis League. Afterwards I will cut some parts of the video to make this become a The Harvest "Basics" video
wandering path + growing hordes is just too greedy on packsize and sacrifice is too big. Both expedition and harvest have very powerfull notables and normally with wandering path you compensate for at least expedition sidet by throwing polished/gilded expedition scarabs as they have powerfull bonuses, but with both growing hordes and wandering path you can't. Wandering path without growing hordes should still be ok-ish, though somewhat weaker than growing hordes (as obvious investment vs no-investment option).
Great video. I like how you also show different ways to play the strategy compared to most other videos that show one with no variation. Have you tested red alters over blue ones? Asking because in my case I can't really do blue, 2 of the downsites that can roll brick my build.
Nice video and content! First question. Wouldnt this be great with expedition? How would that be implemented in the strategy? Also, can you make a video explaining the excel sheet? I am specifically looking for expected drops in terms of how much of the different life force that drops with the different setups? Can I make a copy of the sheet and put in my own data? I play on hc trade :)
I will make a full video about the MF Academy Strategy Guide spreadsheet. I didn't feel ready so far cause I always add things to it and I want to present it as a 100% finished product. Also copy for the MF Academy Strategy Guide has been restricted so far, because as a small content creator I was afraid my job to be abused. That said now that my channel is gaining more viewers I see that I could open the document so that you can make a copy. I'll keep you posted on this topic!
I used this harvest with expedition, if you're using the big bomb, you're better with just going essence instead of expedition. I had a lot of maps that i couldn't even take 1/5 of the rewards just because the boxes had modifiers that i couldn't fight against, of course if you're not using the big bomb it's not an issue but it consume a lot more time per map, in other hand, Essences don't have any downside, you just kill and kill and doesn't take any time to do, and is free profit. Also maybe i was doing something wrong but i didn't see much profit, like 1 or 2 divines with Tujen, no luck with Gwenen, and the crafting with Rog was 99% of the times pure garbage. The only thing that was decent profit was selling the books, stacked decks and a few raw chaos from Tujen, but let's be honest, you can get more chaos/divines just by selling essences and it doesn't take any extra steps. For me the best combination was strongbox, essence and harvest, with niko to help clearing everything faster and also some extra profit from buying chaotic resonators for azurite and selling those, it's free money. The only thing that was even better in terms of currency per hour was boss rush, but that's only if you don't take the time you spend buying the compasses, maps, and invitations, and the amount of time that take to sell all the contracts if you combine it with heist, it was rewarding, but also a pain in the ass at least for me.
should also mention mausoleum and jungle valley map as their bosses don't count as bosses for the purposes for alters so you can straight ahead kill monsters without needing to rush the boss.
Sadly we don't have access to jungle valley during this league, so I didn't include reference to that Map, I personally don't like Mausoleum as a Map layout. As long as you go straight to Boss in Crimson Temple or other high density Maps you should not lose too much quant - max 1 altar imo
Ty for the in-depth explanation! I'm glad crop rotation isn't a must pick. Sure it would be fun if it was really good, but I wouldn't want to check out all crops and harvest them in the correct order for some marginal gains.
Yes Crop Rotation slows down gameplay a little bit. It's more interactive, so I find it fun, but farming without keystone is just smoother and more profitable, unless the lifeforce sextant of the lifeforce you are farming is stupidly high (which sometimes happens in standard when big crafters destroy the market)
Great video! Thanks so much - I'll be implementing this. Quick comment because I'm not sure anyone else has said anything. "Grove" is pronounced like "trove" or "stove", and not like "move". Don't worry about the accent all though! Great content. Just trying to help because it's one of those things you may like to know that no one is going to say anything about.
Thank you! As a non-native speaker trying to keep the most clear language possible has been a top priority (and makes production of new videos a bit slower), however at times I can't prevent doing mistakes. My brain decided to pronunce the word like Groove eheh xD Thank you for the correction!
@@Exosta Yea it's a good one. The Harvest and Expedition keystones are the best new ones I believe. I tried the torment one and it didn't even seem to work unfortunately.
in the spreedsheet your harvest section video imbed leads to the harbinger video and I think the atlas passive tree link is old because its not using seventh gate unless that's suppose to be the one using the sextant
The only quest I really have, is... How profitable is Harvest with the absolute bear minimum (aka only the atlas tree (minus growing hoards) No weird sextants, scarabs, 8+ mod crafts, etc.. Just alch 'n go? Is it profitable enough to obtain a Mirror of Kalandra within 4 months?
Tbh I have no idea, but I would not do that anyway. Sextants and gilded scarabs are mandatory in my opinion, you get so much value out of those. Also keep in mind that Lifeforce is more expensive in high bulk, and you will reach high bulk much later if you farm Harvest without investment.
Excellent video, really making me excited to try farm Harvest. I've been applying the atlas passive points, but have noticed that the point that says "Your Maps have no chance to contain the Sacred Grove" is ticked. Is that because you force it to happen with the Charged Compass? If I can't afford to do that yet, is there an alternative? Or is it just a case of hoping for the Sacred Grove to be in my maps?
If you want to use the duplicate lifeforce compass you MUST force harvest somehow. You can do that with the Map Device or the Sextant. Imo sextant is better.
Interesting, thank you for this guide. What I'm missing though is how to make your own sextants with the desired mods. I guess I should google that but it would have been nice to have all the info in one vid. Also you turned off getting harvest in maps in the Atlas tree, I take it you activate the harvest map option instead?
@@Exosta i thought that was the case when I saw you had it blocked in the tree. What I meant was if it’s possible to make the harvest sextant yourself without having to trade for it. I have never seen it drop as loot with the desired mods. Only as a bare sextant.
I think I'm gonna go for this but swap for expedition, the new extreme archaeology makes it fast and i think expedition scales well aswell with pack size and item quantity
Yes, however remember that expedition has benefits a lot from scarabs, which we can't use. I prefer Essence because even if Expedition is more synergistic, Essence is just more profit/hour imo.
Thanks for the guide. I have one question, why do you remove chances to spawn Sacred Grove in the atlas tree? Are you supposed to only spawn it with sextants? As for me I just run maps and hope to get the grove, which happens quite often, since I blocked a lot of encounters I do not want. Thanks!
This isn't a bad strategy for per map profits but it's very bad for profits per hour. Losing 1 map of sextants is -30 40 50 chaos whatever it is but it's upwards of 5 to 15 mins of no profits depending on run speeds
Hello ! Can you show an Atlas tree for the Harvest crops strategy ? I can only find your atlas tree without this keystone in your GDoc ! Thank's a lot :)
I want to use this atlas, but also seventh gate too, so I can go for ambush and strongboxes from map device. any ideas for a modified version? ( I don't care about essences but I do like harvest and delve)
Hello, nice guide, i have a question i want to go for the harvest keystone, so as sextant i should get sacred grove blue plant purple plant and the last one is up to me? So it get double duplicate ?
Yep nothing changed, same eater altar+all harvest - 100% chance to spawn variant by sextant. Do map, click altar, go harvest last. Repeat. Shout out to best boy nico and his pact with energy. With this setup you can also Mining Byproducts and buy socet fossils. Oddly no +expedition, but +essencess, so no minmax, just "casual" expensive 4sextants + rolling maps.
I didn't test the new keystone Expedition yet, that said I included Essences because I feel like they are a lot of profit per hour and because (personal bias) I am not a great Expedition lover. Overall the strategy is pretty flexibile, so you can adapt for a lot of content that is sensitive to pack size increase. Although it could slow gameplay down, Blood-filled Ritual Vessels might become pretty juicy.
@@Exostai test it both 2 round with wandering path and regular harvest setup, in 1 wandering round i got around 13k wild lifeforce, it seems have a high roof. Regular setup is more consistently with 10k, though
Hi Exosta, i noticed you said that the profit per hour is only based on the lifeforce. What is the total profit per hour for this strat? is there a place where we can see this?
You should always reduce the lifeforce color you don't want to farm. So if you farm yellow, reduce purple and blue; if you farm blue, reduce purple and yellow and so on
yooooooo what a wild life that is!!! cheeeers~ thanks for the vid, and hoenstly its the kind of strategizing that actualy makes me love tadding some harvest to my potential large grind plans idk. sadly i CANNOT be asked to do sextant buying cause at best i maybe will have 3 void stones soontm, but its still wild ot see. and deffinitly tells me this comunity drinks harvest juice by the damn dumptruck full if prices still go up hahahaha~ really hope i can get some entertaingment out of it even though im doing my first 50 maps run on jsut some casual beach mapping with expedition band scarabs but maybe after that some harvest map devicing sextants w/e fun with growing hoards wil lbe hilarious once i have a build that cna blow stuff up instead of be tanky bossing
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability! You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video. I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Im slightly confused, In your atlas strategy you dont have the Seventh Gate allocated, but you recommend forcing it with the map device? how is this possible
Maybe I did not explain this part well. If you want to play Essence it is highly desireble to use the Essence Map Device Crafting option, so you force Harvest with the sextant. Instead, if you are not interested in Essences or the Harvest sextant is simply too expensive go for Seventh Gate and use the Harvest crafting option.
@@Exosta thanks that makes sense. I tried making an atlas strategy that incorporates the 7 gates, but it's awkward to allocate them based on where I want to be on the tree for harvest, is there a tree you recommend for this? I also ran 100 maps without the harvest sextant with all the harvest chance allocated and got harvest 78 times (blocking almost all mechanics). Do you think it could be more profitable to not force harvest with either? as they are roughly 45c each
Hi, can i get the atlas skill tree link please. its hard to see exactly what nodes you have picked. a link to the entire skill tree image would be great
Can this be done with a lower invest strat? With only increased magic pack size compasses + scarabs + own crafted maps? Do I still use the same atlas tree then? Or do I need to buy the sacred grove compasses to guarantee harvest in my maps?
@@Exosta Thank you for the quick reply! Im new to juicing maps so its quite overwhelming for me. Which compasses should I buy, all four that you showed in the video? I buy them from TFT I presume, its just hard to know which ones are the right ones.
Hey, just a question if you don't mind: yellow juice compasses are currently like twice as expensive as blue/purple juice ones, but blue and purple juice itself is worth only like 15% less on the market. Should I still go for yellow compasses with this in mind?
when i runing crimson temple jucied ( gilded sextants, 90+ pack size ) i got only few ( or even none at all ) eaters altars. how to fix that ? some mechanics are blocks eater eater mobs spawning in such small map like crimson?
Tbh Altar spawning is very RNG dependent. Sometimes you get 10, sometimes 3. It's random really. Don't think too much about it. Just make sure to reach the Boss at the start of the Map to optimize your chance to get blue altars with Quant.
I'm not really understanding the point of rolling maps to 6 mods before vaaling. I did this when rolling a batch of 100 maps, I ended up torching roughly 800 scours and 900 alchs doing it. Sustaining this kind of bubblegum is impossible with this strategy, leaving either buying more scours/alchs/vaals or just killing raw chaos. I assumed the point of it was so that if the packsize is large enough before vaaling into an unid'd map, you would be able to hit 100% packsize with the packsize sextant + 4 gilded scarabs. My testing has proven this otherwise. It seems very difficult to hit 100% packsize without going Grand Design, if you're not hitting that breakpoint I don't see the difference in using this strategy with just polished scarabs. The scarab sextant is cheap and sustains most of my gilded scarabs anyways, so I'm just trusting the process. I'd rather just roll the maps to 20% packsize before vaaling, and only running the unids + 8-mods. The result and returns have seemed practically the same, and I've tested both methods over 100 maps. Either way regardless of how wasteful you can be rolling maps/using currency, it seems to be profitable regardless, so it's kind of fool proof even for players who are unfamiliar with juicing strategies. Thanks for the video, it's funded my first character build and probably my next one too.
It's not too important to have 6 modifiers, you can totally play with 5 and then Vaal. Just don't vaal 4 modded maps imo, those are too bad. Also you don't need to hit 100 pack size, in fact that's pretty hard.
hello sir; I try to farming that harvest. but cant figure one option. how are we search on trade this "your maps 20% quality" compass mods? I cant do that on trade
I didnt say very good, i said pretty good, which means decent. However, the profit becomes very good if you add the essence part of the strategy (about 9 div hour in total). Harvest has very few investment and when you farm that you always farm it in combination with something else. I also didnt put any drop other than lifeforce in that 2.7 div/hour. For example i got 3 divine altars that made me 50 divines, didnt add that to the loot table.
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability! You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video. I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Can anyone suggest alternative to hexblast build? I'm really new and have no idea what should I be doing, but I remember hexblast was so fun to use a year ago. It was nerfed and I stopped playing completely, but I still miss it
Hexblast mines is extremely powerful and meta this league, if you like the skill it's still very strong when played this way, you basically just need a blasphemy curse/profane proxy and a curse on hit ring/glove to make it work and it scales very well
@@m0ddedaccount hexblast mines? I wonder why is using mines is stronger that just using a skill? I will look for the guide, thank you very much! Although I was playing with ignite from it and not the hexblast itself
Hexblast is still very strong. Your info about it being bad now is so wrong it's funny. Although if you liked hexblast you should also like impending doom. It's a very meta skill that is already slated to get nerfed next league. Abuse it while you can if you want a good build for clearing the entire screen.
Correct me if I misunderstood, but i use, for exemple, 1 sextant for crop (any color) + 1 sextant to grant the sacred grove + the other 2 sextantes (faster method or slower method) + scarabs?
The most important part imo is having a tanky enough build against dot, which also moves very fast, so yeah RF could do it with appropriate investment in movement speed
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability! You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video. I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Check the MF Build guide inside the MF Academy Strategy Guide docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
You can start without the lifeforce duplicate sextant, and then when you gathered enough raw divines add the sextant. Never do a strategy you can barely afford, or you will get demolished by negative rng sequences.
Imo it's bad, because once you get to like 80 90 pack size further increases have diminishing returns, insead the small passivrs for harvest are very goof
i have taken shaping the skies, sharping the mountains and shaping the world but i rarely get a map, i followed your atlas tree from the spreadsheet, plus whats do you choose in the map devise woth no seventh gate? if u are choosing seventh gate, u need to update your spreadsheet attals tree
Probably you must clear the map a bit more! Choose dense layout, I personally go for Bazaar which has one of the highest mob counts in the game@@nikolaosdrakos3413
i cant see certain colors is there any diference between tier 2 & 3 color ? i never get back to this since i never saw tier 3 show up only tier 2 but in this video is the same... so i think it may be my colorblindness degree, any one can confirm this ? or am just dumb haha
Yes the difference is subtle, unfortunately. Tbh, even not blind color people sometimes have issue, at least, I sometime did. I think you should contact GGG to explain the situation. They would take so little to adjust this.
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as a new player i like how you started with the basics because i didnt even understand harvest that much at first lol, also many guides are older where the info on monster harvest packs says different stuff
Harvest has been a very volatile mechanic, rebalanced, taken away, reintroduced. It is in a really good spot right now though.
Gameplay wise I think the mechanic is fine, Crop Rotation brings some more decision making to it as well. Anyway I would really love to see some powerful Harvest craft, cause right now most of them are a shadow of their former self!@@ibulleti7948
@@Exostaharvest is fine, psh who needs reroll suff keep prefix and vis versa /sarcasm.
Hello from Brazil! I love to make my math during my gameplay and strategies. I liked your video style and edition!!!
I'll follow you mate!!! Please, keep doing this amazing job!
Our "rats of farming" need it! Thank you!!!!!
Thank you man! Future content will cover an updated for high budget MF builds for League and Standard, MF tips & tricks and some more non-MF related stuff like this video
If your build can run it you can use expedition on your map with the new big explosion to be still super fast. Expedition profits from the same modifiers as harvest: pack size and quant
That's a very good point. I will add it to the description and to a fixed message!
But there is a chance u wasted the 100% runic sextant because the expedition cannot be forced from scarab
@@Jinryougo one could use seventh gate
Yea, my finger just hurts from scroll wheeling on tujin
@@Jinryougoa good solution can be removing ess and going with chance to get expedition. Ive been running ess, exp, beast farming and its almost 100% of the time i get an expedition.
Im using Harvest + Expedition (map quant + packsize), 60c profit from one map without investments. It's just so powerful strategy.
THANKYOU SO MUCH! omg I'm averaging 8divs/hour with this strat, its absolutely insane, maybe I'm getting lucky with yellow crops but holy cow even if its other colour its still around 4k lifeforce PER MAP, this is broken af
The charged compass is 65c?! F
Another quality video exosta! Keep up the good work bro ❤
The new keystone is amazing ^^
I just do alch and go and farm only yellow juice and it is nice you can focus all on this ^^
can you share your atlas for the alch and go harvest?
Very impressive guide. Keep the good work man
3.24 Update: I will soon release a new version of this video for Necropolis League. Afterwards I will cut some parts of the video to make this become a The Harvest "Basics" video
wandering path + growing hordes is just too greedy on packsize and sacrifice is too big.
Both expedition and harvest have very powerfull notables and normally with wandering path you compensate for at least expedition sidet by throwing polished/gilded expedition scarabs as they have powerfull bonuses, but with both growing hordes and wandering path you can't.
Wandering path without growing hordes should still be ok-ish, though somewhat weaker than growing hordes (as obvious investment vs no-investment option).
Great video. I like how you also show different ways to play the strategy compared to most other videos that show one with no variation.
Have you tested red alters over blue ones? Asking because in my case I can't really do blue, 2 of the downsites that can roll brick my build.
@@Wrex90 well, for max lifeforce you must go blue, but for overall profit i think they are pretty much the same
@@Exostayou should pin this comment btw😊
Nice video and content!
First question. Wouldnt this be great with expedition? How would that be implemented in the strategy? Also, can you make a video explaining the excel sheet? I am specifically looking for expected drops in terms of how much of the different life force that drops with the different setups?
Can I make a copy of the sheet and put in my own data? I play on hc trade :)
I will make a full video about the MF Academy Strategy Guide spreadsheet. I didn't feel ready so far cause I always add things to it and I want to present it as a 100% finished product. Also copy for the MF Academy Strategy Guide has been restricted so far, because as a small content creator I was afraid my job to be abused. That said now that my channel is gaining more viewers I see that I could open the document so that you can make a copy. I'll keep you posted on this topic!
I used this harvest with expedition, if you're using the big bomb, you're better with just going essence instead of expedition. I had a lot of maps that i couldn't even take 1/5 of the rewards just because the boxes had modifiers that i couldn't fight against, of course if you're not using the big bomb it's not an issue but it consume a lot more time per map, in other hand, Essences don't have any downside, you just kill and kill and doesn't take any time to do, and is free profit. Also maybe i was doing something wrong but i didn't see much profit, like 1 or 2 divines with Tujen, no luck with Gwenen, and the crafting with Rog was 99% of the times pure garbage. The only thing that was decent profit was selling the books, stacked decks and a few raw chaos from Tujen, but let's be honest, you can get more chaos/divines just by selling essences and it doesn't take any extra steps. For me the best combination was strongbox, essence and harvest, with niko to help clearing everything faster and also some extra profit from buying chaotic resonators for azurite and selling those, it's free money.
The only thing that was even better in terms of currency per hour was boss rush, but that's only if you don't take the time you spend buying the compasses, maps, and invitations, and the amount of time that take to sell all the contracts if you combine it with heist, it was rewarding, but also a pain in the ass at least for me.
should also mention mausoleum and jungle valley map as their bosses don't count as bosses for the purposes for alters so you can straight ahead kill monsters without needing to rush the boss.
Sadly we don't have access to jungle valley during this league, so I didn't include reference to that Map, I personally don't like Mausoleum as a Map layout. As long as you go straight to Boss in Crimson Temple or other high density Maps you should not lose too much quant - max 1 altar imo
Ty for the in-depth explanation! I'm glad crop rotation isn't a must pick. Sure it would be fun if it was really good, but I wouldn't want to check out all crops and harvest them in the correct order for some marginal gains.
Yes Crop Rotation slows down gameplay a little bit. It's more interactive, so I find it fun, but farming without keystone is just smoother and more profitable, unless the lifeforce sextant of the lifeforce you are farming is stupidly high (which sometimes happens in standard when big crafters destroy the market)
Highest quality guide. Great work.
Thank you for work mate!
Amazing guide and video quality editing information love it!!♥
Great video! Thanks so much - I'll be implementing this.
Quick comment because I'm not sure anyone else has said anything. "Grove" is pronounced like "trove" or "stove", and not like "move". Don't worry about the accent all though! Great content. Just trying to help because it's one of those things you may like to know that no one is going to say anything about.
Thank you! As a non-native speaker trying to keep the most clear language possible has been a top priority (and makes production of new videos a bit slower), however at times I can't prevent doing mistakes. My brain decided to pronunce the word like Groove eheh xD Thank you for the correction!
I collect uniques in SSF and that new keystone is amazing. I get probably 4 or 5 times as many bosses as usual.
Yes, in one run I got 2 unique bosses from a single Harvest Crop. Sadly I was not recording with OBS at that time.
@@Exosta Yea it's a good one. The Harvest and Expedition keystones are the best new ones I believe. I tried the torment one and it didn't even seem to work unfortunately.
in the spreedsheet your harvest section video imbed leads to the harbinger video and I think the atlas passive tree link is old because its not using seventh gate unless that's suppose to be the one using the sextant
Thank you! I forgot to change it. Fixed! The Atlas Passive Tree is correct, from what I see
The only quest I really have, is... How profitable is Harvest with the absolute bear minimum (aka only the atlas tree (minus growing hoards)
No weird sextants, scarabs, 8+ mod crafts, etc.. Just alch 'n go? Is it profitable enough to obtain a Mirror of Kalandra within 4 months?
Tbh I have no idea, but I would not do that anyway. Sextants and gilded scarabs are mandatory in my opinion, you get so much value out of those. Also keep in mind that Lifeforce is more expensive in high bulk, and you will reach high bulk much later if you farm Harvest without investment.
really good video quality!!! clear and well layed out
Excellent video, really making me excited to try farm Harvest. I've been applying the atlas passive points, but have noticed that the point that says "Your Maps have no chance to contain the Sacred Grove" is ticked. Is that because you force it to happen with the Charged Compass? If I can't afford to do that yet, is there an alternative? Or is it just a case of hoping for the Sacred Grove to be in my maps?
If you want to use the duplicate lifeforce compass you MUST force harvest somehow. You can do that with the Map Device or the Sextant. Imo sextant is better.
Would love to have a passive tree in the description... The one in the google doc is an older version from 3.21.
It was already updated, don't know why you see the old version!
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@@Exosta Привет. Как ты с таким атласом вызываешь рощу, если у тебя не взяты 7 врат и отключена лиговая активность на рощу ?
this strat still insane. I just got 8,7k of yellow juice in ONE SINGLE map. awesooome
This was very useful. Thanks my friend.
Thank you for testing Crop Rotation!
Looks so satisfying
Interesting, thank you for this guide. What I'm missing though is how to make your own sextants with the desired mods. I guess I should google that but it would have been nice to have all the info in one vid.
Also you turned off getting harvest in maps in the Atlas tree, I take it you activate the harvest map option instead?
The Extra Content Notables do not prevent a content from spawning if you force it with Sextant or Map Device, as we do with Harvest!
@@Exosta i thought that was the case when I saw you had it blocked in the tree. What I meant was if it’s possible to make the harvest sextant yourself without having to trade for it. I have never seen it drop as loot with the desired mods. Only as a bare sextant.
You just can farm and resell compasses and you keep the harvest ones yeah@@Soei23
I think I'm gonna go for this but swap for expedition, the new extreme archaeology makes it fast and i think expedition scales well aswell with pack size and item quantity
Yes, however remember that expedition has benefits a lot from scarabs, which we can't use. I prefer Essence because even if Expedition is more synergistic, Essence is just more profit/hour imo.
Hey, maybe I'm stupid/missing something but why not just run less yellow from tree and force yellow to show up with sextant?
Because the yellow sextant cost more
Awesome guide, thank you so much
very well explained and well spoken!
Thanks for the guide. I have one question, why do you remove chances to spawn Sacred Grove in the atlas tree? Are you supposed to only spawn it with sextants? As for me I just run maps and hope to get the grove, which happens quite often, since I blocked a lot of encounters I do not want. Thanks!
The problem is that the Lifeforce sextant can be pricey and so you lose some value if you go without forcing harvest!
This isn't a bad strategy for per map profits but it's very bad for profits per hour. Losing 1 map of sextants is -30 40 50 chaos whatever it is but it's upwards of 5 to 15 mins of no profits depending on run speeds
Hello ! Can you show an Atlas tree for the Harvest crops strategy ? I can only find your atlas tree without this keystone in your GDoc ! Thank's a lot :)
it's the same tree, just add the keystone
You spaound those monsters good. ;)
extremely good guide
I want to use this atlas, but also seventh gate too, so I can go for ambush and strongboxes from map device. any ideas for a modified version? ( I don't care about essences but I do like harvest and delve)
You can try Harvest + Expedition instead!
Nice strat! My friend is doing something similar and loves it.
This is the best guide iv seen on youtube would love guides like this for all farming strats
Hey mate, thank you! More will come, I just need to find some time out from my irl job!
Hey there! Do you have a guide for the build you are using? Im using spark but my survivability is kinda bad, how much did you invest on that build?
I'm planning to release an entire video around it!
@@Exosta any prediction on the date?
Nice vid im using this atlas is wandering path is bad to juice more ?
It is a no go, wandering is bad for harvest
Hello, nice guide, i have a question i want to go for the harvest keystone, so as sextant i should get sacred grove blue plant purple plant and the last one is up to me? So it get double duplicate ?
you cant have both blue and purple sextant. just use blue + sacred grove. The rest is pretty flexible.
Hey, also new to POE - why is his taking the Blacked Thumb Note, which means no Sacred Grove can spawn? cheers
When you force Harvest with sextants the Blacked Thumb doesn't prevent Harvest from spawning
what for a video. thank you sir. you are the best poe teacher.
is there a link to the atlas for this guide? really appreciate you putting this together!
Check the MF Academy Strategy Guide page, link in the description!
Thanks for your sharing. What is 6 mod self-rolled?
You can either roll your maps with 5 modifiers or 6 modifiers. Minimum required is 5.
Hi, may I ask do you meant to use both purple and blue sextant in one go or just pick one of them ? Thanks
You can only use one Lifeforce sextant, only one can apply at once!
Yep nothing changed, same eater altar+all harvest - 100% chance to spawn variant by sextant. Do map, click altar, go harvest last. Repeat.
Shout out to best boy nico and his pact with energy. With this setup you can also Mining Byproducts and buy socet fossils.
Oddly no +expedition, but +essencess, so no minmax, just "casual" expensive 4sextants + rolling maps.
I didn't test the new keystone Expedition yet, that said I included Essences because I feel like they are a lot of profit per hour and because (personal bias) I am not a great Expedition lover. Overall the strategy is pretty flexibile, so you can adapt for a lot of content that is sensitive to pack size increase. Although it could slow gameplay down, Blood-filled Ritual Vessels might become pretty juicy.
Hi, "Can I ask why you activated "Black Thump," as it seems to prevent "The Sacred Grove" from appearing on your maps?
When you force any league mechanic via sextants or scarabs the extra content notables don't prevent the content from spawning.
with the yellow plant sextant do you recommend wandering path or regular crop rotation?
Wandering Path is always bad with Harvest. Never use it.
@@Exostai test it both 2 round with wandering path and regular harvest setup, in 1 wandering round i got around 13k wild lifeforce, it seems have a high roof. Regular setup is more consistently with 10k, though
What's your sample size? I tried this extensively and Wandering Path was much worse for me.@@user-cy6qh4pv9y
Maousoleum also a good map, since altars cant give you "boss buffs" which is really important to force maximum qunat altars
yes but i'm not a fan of the layout
Hi Exosta, i noticed you said that the profit per hour is only based on the lifeforce. What is the total profit per hour for this strat? is there a place where we can see this?
I didnt make the math for the total, but briefly it should be the harvest profit hour + essence profti hour, check the mf academy strategy guide
@@Exosta yes but the 2.7 you have put in excel. Is that only from lifeforce or does that include essences + general map drops aswell?
Would you go with Yellow plant reduction if you are not running the Purple/Blue Sextants? Thanks!
You should always reduce the lifeforce color you don't want to farm. So if you farm yellow, reduce purple and blue; if you farm blue, reduce purple and yellow and so on
Alright, i thought it was reversed if you were not using Compasses. Thanks!@@Exosta
Best guide !
yooooooo what a wild life that is!!! cheeeers~ thanks for the vid, and hoenstly its the kind of strategizing that actualy makes me love tadding some harvest to my potential large grind plans idk. sadly i CANNOT be asked to do sextant buying cause at best i maybe will have 3 void stones soontm, but its still wild ot see. and deffinitly tells me this comunity drinks harvest juice by the damn dumptruck full if prices still go up hahahaha~ really hope i can get some entertaingment out of it even though im doing my first 50 maps run on jsut some casual beach mapping with expedition band scarabs but maybe after that some harvest map devicing sextants w/e fun with growing hoards wil lbe hilarious once i have a build that cna blow stuff up instead of be tanky bossing
Damn your TS build looks great. Any links?
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability!
You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video.
I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html
There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Im slightly confused, In your atlas strategy you dont have the Seventh Gate allocated, but you recommend forcing it with the map device? how is this possible
Maybe I did not explain this part well. If you want to play Essence it is highly desireble to use the Essence Map Device Crafting option, so you force Harvest with the sextant. Instead, if you are not interested in Essences or the Harvest sextant is simply too expensive go for Seventh Gate and use the Harvest crafting option.
@@Exosta thanks that makes sense. I tried making an atlas strategy that incorporates the 7 gates, but it's awkward to allocate them based on where I want to be on the tree for harvest, is there a tree you recommend for this? I also ran 100 maps without the harvest sextant with all the harvest chance allocated and got harvest 78 times (blocking almost all mechanics). Do you think it could be more profitable to not force harvest with either? as they are roughly 45c each
Hi, can i get the atlas skill tree link please. its hard to see exactly what nodes you have picked. a link to the entire skill tree image would be great
Check MF Academy Strategy Guide
Nice video! Also I tried running crop rotation and I got like 5 harvest bosses which I find hilarious😂.
you gotta be so darn lucky. I got only 1 and got lots of them without the rotations
Dude how do you use your guide in the docs? I'm from Brazil so I can't translate
There are no actual plans to translate the guide, however this might change in the future if I find some collaborators willing to do the job.
Do I need to allocate heart of the Grove if I have crop rotation, or is it pretty much useless to allocate it?
It is still mandatory, since we get 10% chance for the not chosen crop to not wilt!
Good stuff
Can this be done with a lower invest strat? With only increased magic pack size compasses + scarabs + own crafted maps? Do I still use the same atlas tree then? Or do I need to buy the sacred grove compasses to guarantee harvest in my maps?
You totally can, even though I think is kinda suboptimal.
@@Exosta Thank you for the quick reply! Im new to juicing maps so its quite overwhelming for me. Which compasses should I buy, all four that you showed in the video? I buy them from TFT I presume, its just hard to know which ones are the right ones.
Hey, just a question if you don't mind: yellow juice compasses are currently like twice as expensive as blue/purple juice ones, but blue and purple juice itself is worth only like 15% less on the market. Should I still go for yellow compasses with this in mind?
You should do the math every time using the MF Academy Strategy Guide
when i runing crimson temple jucied ( gilded sextants, 90+ pack size ) i got only few ( or even none at all ) eaters altars. how to fix that ? some mechanics are blocks eater eater mobs spawning in such small map like crimson?
Tbh Altar spawning is very RNG dependent. Sometimes you get 10, sometimes 3. It's random really. Don't think too much about it. Just make sure to reach the Boss at the start of the Map to optimize your chance to get blue altars with Quant.
Hi, how your poe screen on theatre mode? Which settings do u have
I just have a 21:9 ultrawide screen
I'm not really understanding the point of rolling maps to 6 mods before vaaling. I did this when rolling a batch of 100 maps, I ended up torching roughly 800 scours and 900 alchs doing it. Sustaining this kind of bubblegum is impossible with this strategy, leaving either buying more scours/alchs/vaals or just killing raw chaos. I assumed the point of it was so that if the packsize is large enough before vaaling into an unid'd map, you would be able to hit 100% packsize with the packsize sextant + 4 gilded scarabs. My testing has proven this otherwise. It seems very difficult to hit 100% packsize without going Grand Design, if you're not hitting that breakpoint I don't see the difference in using this strategy with just polished scarabs. The scarab sextant is cheap and sustains most of my gilded scarabs anyways, so I'm just trusting the process.
I'd rather just roll the maps to 20% packsize before vaaling, and only running the unids + 8-mods. The result and returns have seemed practically the same, and I've tested both methods over 100 maps. Either way regardless of how wasteful you can be rolling maps/using currency, it seems to be profitable regardless, so it's kind of fool proof even for players who are unfamiliar with juicing strategies. Thanks for the video, it's funded my first character build and probably my next one too.
It's not too important to have 6 modifiers, you can totally play with 5 and then Vaal. Just don't vaal 4 modded maps imo, those are too bad. Also you don't need to hit 100 pack size, in fact that's pretty hard.
that was concise and complete! TY for this excellent survey. You got my subscription :)
Hi. How can i sustain a specific map? Example Atoll T16 or Beach T16?
Simply put it as Favorite 12 times, take the Shaping notables on the Atlas Passive Tree and Singular Focus keystone
good job
Finaly found you guys again, i had an years old MFacademy sheet that was a dead link and i didn't remembered the name hahaha nice guide
GoodJob!
I will funnel my gambling addition with this
Great vid! Any link to the atlas passive tree? Probably in the sheet but can't find. Thx
It's indeed in the sheet. poeplanner.com/a/8WJ
GREAT just great, thanks you so much!!
hello sir; I try to farming that harvest. but cant figure one option. how are we search on trade this "your maps 20% quality" compass mods? I cant do that on trade
www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ancestor/m0Z2dYrH6
@@Exosta thank you so much for help.
What do you think about Wandering Path with Harvest farming ?
That's just bad in my opinion. I tried it and add extremely bad results. The issue I see here is that Harvest Notables are just so powerful!
Is there anyway to garante a harvest in ur map or its just luck ?
Sextant or Map Device Crafting option, unlocked with The Seventh Gate
what scarabs are you using btw? :)
The cheapest I can find on market, which ones are irrelevant, since we use Growing Hordes
dont take me wrong,
but did u say thay 2.7d/h is very good profit?
I didnt say very good, i said pretty good, which means decent. However, the profit becomes very good if you add the essence part of the strategy (about 9 div hour in total). Harvest has very few investment and when you farm that you always farm it in combination with something else. I also didnt put any drop other than lifeforce in that 2.7 div/hour. For example i got 3 divine altars that made me 50 divines, didnt add that to the loot table.
where can i find the full atlas skill picture so i can follow it exactly?
Check the MF Academy Strategy Guide page, link in the description!
thank you so much :D@@Exosta
Do you have POB of your build?
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability!
You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video.
I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html
There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Does + Quantity on gear affect harvest?
No
Hm, good work, thanks for that
Why is the "no chance to contain sacred grove" point checked ? how else is it gonna spawn for harvest ?
Can anyone suggest alternative to hexblast build? I'm really new and have no idea what should I be doing, but I remember hexblast was so fun to use a year ago. It was nerfed and I stopped playing completely, but I still miss it
Hexblast mines is extremely powerful and meta this league, if you like the skill it's still very strong when played this way, you basically just need a blasphemy curse/profane proxy and a curse on hit ring/glove to make it work and it scales very well
@@m0ddedaccount hexblast mines? I wonder why is using mines is stronger that just using a skill? I will look for the guide, thank you very much!
Although I was playing with ignite from it and not the hexblast itself
Palsteron has a hexblast mines build and streams alot on twitch😂
@@pops6336 😂😂😂
who?
Hexblast is still very strong. Your info about it being bad now is so wrong it's funny.
Although if you liked hexblast you should also like impending doom. It's a very meta skill that is already slated to get nerfed next league. Abuse it while you can if you want a good build for clearing the entire screen.
can't run the strat anymore, those sextants prices are unheticals ??
To date, the strat is still really profitable, check the MF Academy Strategy Guide for details.
Why did you block harvest (black thumb), I assume this is a mistake?
Cause we are forcing harvest to appear, and we only get 2% extra content without drawbacks
@@Exosta Ahaa, didn't know you could do that, thanks mate!
nice. does the affliction juice work on harvest?
skip, it makes it harder and doesn't improve the loot as far as i know
Agreed!
very useful, thank you very much!
Correct me if I misunderstood, but i use, for exemple, 1 sextant for crop (any color) + 1 sextant to grant the sacred grove + the other 2 sextantes (faster method or slower method) + scarabs?
Pretty much it, yes.
Ok, thanks bro :)@@Exosta
Harvest is not available for the map device. how to guarantee 100% grove?
I use Sextants, however you can go for the Seventh Gateway Keystone and always unlock the Map Device Mod for Harvest in any League
What builds are good at expedition and harvest?
I'm running pohx's inqui RF, and it works wonders for both
The most important part imo is having a tanky enough build against dot, which also moves very fast, so yeah RF could do it with appropriate investment in movement speed
Why do you block Harvest with Black Thumb?
You are forcing Harvest anyway, so you can allocate that for free
Do you have current PoB?
This is my (very) high budget Standard Build. If no Legacy stuff or other bias factors are involved, I test my strategies in Standard, since it's so much faster to do there. I always base my videos on League prices to evaluate profitability!
You can achieve similar enough results with a very high budget MF Build in league. That said Harvest is not affected by MF so nothing changes result-wise, build is irrelevant for the video.
I covered the build in a video before: ruclips.net/video/5c-yzhX7xi4/видео.html
There have been a few updates meanwhile, and full completly updated and very indepth written buide can be found in my MF Academy Strategy Guide:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Do you have pob to your build?
Check the MF Build guide inside the MF Academy Strategy Guide
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12f_dlb9ezlKR1PlB_v0IVZaaqnwPKHNObLy2PTHsHTQ/edit#gid=1562541767&range=A1
Should i run this strat if i cant afford the sextants?
You can start without the lifeforce duplicate sextant, and then when you gathered enough raw divines add the sextant. Never do a strategy you can barely afford, or you will get demolished by negative rng sequences.
How about grand design ? It's insane for harvest
Imo it's bad, because once you get to like 80 90 pack size further increases have diminishing returns, insead the small passivrs for harvest are very goof
@@Exosta thanks for you reply!
Is this till a viable strat for Affliction league? Thanks for the vid!
Absolutely, nothing changed in regard to Harvest!
Awesome, cant wait to try this! Thanks! @@Exosta
Hi, great guide, how to you sustain maps?
Singular Focus keystone + Shaping Passive Notable on the Atlas Passive Tree!
@@Exosta ok, and u favor crimson temple only?
i have taken shaping the skies, sharping the mountains and shaping the world but i rarely get a map, i followed your atlas tree from the spreadsheet, plus whats do you choose in the map devise woth no seventh gate? if u are choosing seventh gate, u need to update your spreadsheet attals tree
Probably you must clear the map a bit more! Choose dense layout, I personally go for Bazaar which has one of the highest mob counts in the game@@nikolaosdrakos3413
i cant see certain colors is there any diference between tier 2 & 3 color ? i never get back to this since i never saw tier 3 show up only tier 2 but in this video is the same... so i think it may be my colorblindness degree, any one can confirm this ? or am just dumb haha
Yes the difference is subtle, unfortunately. Tbh, even not blind color people sometimes have issue, at least, I sometime did. I think you should contact GGG to explain the situation. They would take so little to adjust this.
thank you for your response, will contact them hope they will do something
Kind regards.
@@Exosta