As someone who flies FPV freestyle, the ridiculous rules requiring a spotter forces me to not comply. I work 50 to 60 hrs a week, in order to get some flying time in I usually have to do it unplanned when i have some free time, can't really just walk down the street and find some random person to be my spotter. It's completely unnecessary when I'm flying with 200ft and away from any people.
it is really sad , that we have that rule regardless how smart our drones are. now a days even if you build it to run on Betaflight or INAV they come fully features with GPS rescue or return to home
@@mikeb1596 funny thing is, I been watching Avata 2 reviews, and 90% of the videos have no spotter on them. But then why would you need it with a tiny drone barely above the ground anyways
This is why i quit flying altogether (full size and rc) too many hoops to jump through. They have the system over regulated. This will bite them eventually.
It won’t bite them because rec flyers are annoying to them. They want to charge big $$$ for commercial flyers and get rid of the rec flyers by creating more fees and restrictions.
the same over here. Just fly out in nature and do not interfere with others, quiet and without wild behavior nor drugs-alcohol 😢 use your brain 🧠. Have fun 🤩 and screw all the bloody rules / a nightmare.
2c Announce power on... In the aviation community the standard phrase is "Clearrrrrr PROP!" yelled at the top of the lungs. Bonus points if you get a solid "Hoorah!" from a fellow aviator.
Just purchased a DJI Mini 2 SE. I intend to get my part 107 but in the mean time I’m only flying over my own 10 acres while I learn how to fly it proficiently.
😂 Definitely not. Last time I checked a drone doesn’t require a minimum age or a background check to purchase. The ATF has their hands on firearms and the rules there are equally or more complex and up to interpretation.
I have watched this video twice now. And I have been to the FAA website. But I still can’t find any information saying that a person who is flying recreationally has to take the trust certificate. However I do see where the FAA clearly states that the person who is flying sub 250 grams should still follow the guidelines. And fly in VLOS and below 400 feet. And not to fly near airports or restricted airspace. But the only information that I can find for a person flying recreationally and is below 250 grams does not need to register there drone. And if they don’t have to register they don’t need to take a trust test. If you take a kid who goes to Walmart and gets a toy drone. The kid doesn’t have to take a test to fly their drone in the back yard. It would be hard for the kid who can’t even read yet 😂
Hello, not sure what you're even saying and I don't know where you're looking because the FAA site does not say some of these things and what you state is simply wrong. From the video, check out rule #7, it is very clear about taking the TRUST test. ruclips.net/video/b3yQYl7eAeQ/видео.htmlsi=TUWt2cjbquyfs5F1&t=108 . This is an actual screenshot from the FAA's website. The actual FAA website is here: www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers and you will see rule #7 with a link to the TRUST test there (towards the bottom). Here is the final link to the TRUST test: www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers/knowledge_test_updates (towards the bottom pick any of the test administrators). Here is a link that takes you directly to one of the test administrators to take the test. www.scouting.org/the-recreational-uas-safety-test/ Click "Begin Exam". The Video reviews these rules and the cheat sheet has links to most everything talked about. Children are either required to take the TRUST test or the parent must take it and be the responsible pilot supervising the youth. Keep in mind we're talking about recreational only here, if you are doing tutorials or drone testing on a RUclips channel for instance these rules do not apply, you need to be part 107 certified, not recreational and is regardless if you're monetized or making money or not on that channel. Sorry, I don't know how else I can help but if you have specific questions let us know.
We don't agree. If you are asked for any of the required recreational 44809 documentation and you don't have it, you automatically do not qualify to fly under 44809 and you revert to part 107. If you don't have your part 107 and appropriate documentation and markings on the drone, those are just additional civil violations. This technique of catching recreational operators and writing them up under failed part 107 regs is taught by the FAA in their LEAP training.
It's easier to just ignore the rules and drive however you want. Which works okay as long as you keep getting lucky. Then eventually, one day, bad luck happens. Then, when sh*t happens, either you were following the rules/law and an accident happened, or you were flagrantly violated all the laws and injured someone. The path from there is very different if you decided to give the federal authorities the finger.
Im torn. Not sure if i should go with the mini 4 pro with the extended batteries that takes it over 249g. On one hand id prefer not to register and keep it under 249. Other hand id like the bigger batteries. And i might want to try and do more than rec. Not a fan of the remote id though.
@@dayforit1750 hey, I went with the extended battery combo. So far the extra battery has been helpful. Definitely would feel more rushed with 15 less minutes. Still wonder about the remote id being there but no issues so far I guess. Haven't flown around too many people though
@HighHouseDark_ Sweet, thanks mate. I'll be buying mine in the next couple of days, still undecided but might be guided with whatever I can get the best deal on.
Rules for thee, not for me. Or is it rules for me, and not for thee? Either way. I’ll use nypd and every local news channel. There were drones flying over 10s of thousands of people in NYC for NYE. Same at football stadiums. If i fly my drone over a stadium, which i won’t. Suits are coming to visit me at my house. The nypd puts up drones and flys over crowds in an instant. I’m good knowing i fly my drone minding my business and as part a 107. Vlos. I see the entire horizon left to right. Thats literally line of sight. Cbo tells me to fly in an airfield and to join local clubs to use their fields. I fly with laanc if need. The drone won’t fly, it hits an invisible wall. I haven’t flown because dji refuses to fix my broken from day of purchase drone.
Depending on the state, in order to fly in approved areas, specific CBO membership and flying permit may be required. NJ state law, county and city make it difficult to fly.
I thought North Carolina was the only one requiring a separate "permit" which they now have cancelled. Fairly certain it is part of the federal rules that CBO membership is not to be required. If a state does that I would think they could be sued and would lose for preempting federal law. How long has NJ been requiring this?
@@AlienDrones yes sir, you are correct the federal rules only require adherence to one of the four approved CBOs rec guidelines. Flying in state parks are prohibited. Flying in county parks may happen but only in stated locations which incur a county flying permit fee. In order to get the flying permit in the county I live in requires an AMA Membership card in order to fly in that area which requires the permit.
@@AlienDrones So, I called my county's park and recreation department. They have chosen to enforce AMA membership because liability insurance is part of the membership. I researched other NJ counties. The requirement is the same, but the price of the flying permit goes up because each county has resident and non-resident prices.
@@AlienDrones Welcome to New Jersey! I can't imagine what hoops you have to go through to fly Part 107. If I were the other three CBOs, I'd sue. Keep up the good content.
The "announce when powering up" rule is for safety and etiquette when flying analog FPV with others. Powering up can knock somebody's 5.8ghz analog FPV feed out for a second or really degrade the signal. Announcing power up lets other pilots be ready for it.
Fpv shouldn’t even be allowed outside of in a gym or rec building there is zero situational awareness tot he sides or rear. All you see is the front cam bird eye view
@@0utcast We've been doing it for years at our local AMA RC club. It's perfectly safe using a spotter ... which is one of the FAA's rules for FPV. You forget that DJI products are also FPV through the DJI fly app. Be careful wishing for FPV to be restricted unless you want DJI products restricted as well.
great video ! can sub 250g drones without RID, such as the Mini 2 se, have to be only flown in FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIAs), or can they be flown Anywhere ? (asking in particular about the Mini 2SE ! without RID ! )
Can be flown recreationally without RID only in allowed Class G airspace or other areas that are legal to fly in... A good RID Reference is this latest video: ruclips.net/video/_GkvNlRYtqc/видео.html
@@michaelduva5217 If you're trying to find a way to know where you can fly legally this is an outline of how to find out. _Where_ you can fly is the same if you're part 107 or recreational. The only difference is if you are not recreational (or part 107) then you always need registration and remote ID too. ruclips.net/video/H3_oJ5ZKiwA/видео.html
@@AlienDronesoh wow. thank you for all the replies,!!! I am both recreational trust and part 107. I was trying to decide for buying a DJI mini 2 se. or not. it seems from what you have said, I would be fine flying it pretty much anywhere in class G (and do not have to stay in the recreational fields with the dji mini 2se as long as i’m flying for fun not work. sound correct ? or am i stuck in Friars only if i don’t add an external RID ?
@@michaelduva5217 You are correct, but because you mentioned you have your part 107, please indulge me a moment to clarify. If you fly recreationally AND you do not have the mini 2 SE registered, then you can fly in any Class G with no remote ID and you are good as long as you follow 44809 (recreational) rules. If you fly this drone under part 107 and register the drone (because it is required to be registered under part 107 rules) then you will need to add a remote ID module to it, *THEN* you can fly anywhere in Class G as you mentioned. No need to fly in a FRIA. IF you decide to remove the RID module but leave the drone registered, then you will only be allowed to fly it in a FRIA because by the nature of being registered it requires RID and you don't have it in that instance. I know it is convoluted but hope this helps
CBOs and regulations are left intentionally vague. Example from the Flite Test CBO: "The FTCA does not permit recreational flyers to fly over people or so close as to create a potential hazard should the aircraft, or pilot, not perform as intended" along with "Do not fly your model aircraft closer than 50 feet laterally from other people/spectators in the designated spectator area." So Is this 50 feet on a perfectly flat 180 degree plane or is 50 feet at a 45 degree angle acceptable? If I am 200 feet above people but 10 feet to the left and right per the verbiage I am in compliance.
Understood, I hear they are ambiguous to still allow some room for common sense based on the specific situation. My advice would be to not think quite so hard about this. They are guidelines for safety so just view them that way and do your best to comply and you'll be fine. By definition "Laterally" is side to side in a plane, so that is 50' horizontally to the side of a person regardless of altitude.
I'm here in Virginia asking for permission to fly in some of the parks here in my area. The supervisor there said he's not sure. I have the app Before u fly. So far so good. Fimi x8 mini pro. Up an away. Keep on flying my friend
I wonder how the Chevron decision revamp that's currently being considered by the Supreme Court will affect drone rules? Will Congress need to specify directly through new legislation?
It will do nothing because no will challenge these regulations in court. Everyone is much too happy with the rules and no one is upset about them. I proved this by attempting to start a legal fund exactly for law suits like that, and no one single person offered to help. Infact Pilot Institute basically said nah, we work with the FAA so we don't think suing them is necessary. A law suit is the only time chevron would come into play.
So.... Does this mean Its always illegal to fly a drone on a coastline/mountain if you cant see it? I just found out about this hobby and its getting yo the point where i can't find a place to fly and im worried about getting in legal trouble. Like, its just as dangerous as someone zooming around with a fast RC car. Come on.
Correct, if you cannot see the drone it is beyond visual line of site and it is illegal. Even if you are close but go behind a building, if you can't see the drone it is BVLOS. Difference with an RC car is they won't divert a flight for life helicopter when it's trying to get to a hospital. In contrast, your RC car isn't in the airspace so an ambulance may have to swerve a bit or will simply run it over and move on. Indeed, some of the drone rules are silly, I get that, but if you think about BVLOS and it is your parent or child in the medical helicopter after an accident, and they have to divert because some random drone is tooling around in their path because it is obviously a stupid rule meant for someone else, somehow it seems a bit more reasonable...
@@AlienDrones thank you for the reply! I'm just concerned and appreciate your feedback. I watched the live FAA talk that you had previously And I'm just wanting to make sure I follow all the rules properly. I understand the overall purpose of making sure that you're always within line of sight It's just unfortunate that it's a little limiting. I do realize that it would be pretty hard to get in trouble with that for a under sub 250 drone though. It's hard because I'm new but I am looking into making a toothpick possibly, Because I have seen a lot of two S sub 250 that are capable of decent flight and long range.
Are there any rules that prevent people from harassing wildlife with drones? I would hope there is some fine or deterrent to prevent someone from doing that.
There are laws on the books that do just that but they are not FAA rules, but most of the time local rules, usually by state. Some areas like national parks for instance wildlife harassment is a federal rule, so this exists nearly everywhere in one way or another...
I tried to buy the new DJI S3 and at check-out I got a page that said “not available in your region” … I live in the US (Oregon) … so I guess the ban on DJI is real.
Maybe it's just banned in Oregon, the politicians there seem to live in their own little world. Perhaps you can sneak across the border to Washington under the cover of darkness and get one... 😂😂
@@AlienDrones Maybe the cult of MAGA can get me one from Mexico if they can climb the wall … I hear Mexico has cat and dog stew they serve to MAGA … it must be true because the Orange buffalo told me … ROFL
This is off topic but I wonder if you know the answer to this issue. How I can set the height on my Mini 4 Pro to 50 feet instead of the default minimum of 65 feet? Asked for LAANC permission and it said I could fly up to 50 feet then was unable to fly. The drone defaults to a minimum of 65 feet.
You know, as a person that was in the hobby long before multi rotors where even a thing. When the dragon fly quad copter was called a "drone" by the company so they could make it sound cool. I was also there when working in a hobby store in the early 2000s saw the best/worst marketing to get people into the hobby that in some ways had no business being any kind of pilot. I watched as people did the stupidest things with their quads. I got out the hobby for a while in 2018 then moved back to the house a grew up in and learned to fly at. I decided to dust off my helicopters and airplanes and get back in. now i find myself in restricted air space and now have to go learn how to get laanc approval to fly in a place that not only i had flow in for 2 decades the guy who had an airfield just down the road an 1/8 of a mile away had been flying for 2 decades before that. We live 3 miles away from an afb. The ama rules were just fine. Thanks to the people who went out and bought consumer drones and ruined it for the rest of us hobbyist and giving ammunition for the government to be 8n just another part of our lives.
Question: Can i put my recreational flight videos on RUclips as long as there is no text or voice that could be considered instructional? Background music only? Just for friends and family to see recreational flight? Thanks in advance and great video!
Can someone show me where it specifically says sub 250g drones do not require registration if operated under recreational rules. The rec rules, ie 49 USC 44809, state drones require registration to fall under said rules, it does not state "if needed." Yes, the FAA says on their webpage for flying recreationally
All drones flights are part 107 flights, unless they meet the "Exception" for recreational fliers, under 44809. The same language is used for registration, all drones require registration but there is an "exception" of 44809 and
Please correct me if I’m wrong been studying part 107 a lot I don’t think recreational can fly at night starts in March this year unless you’re part 107 and still you have to have waiver 30 min after sunset 30 min before sunrise
That is incorrect. Currently there is no restriction for night flights under 44809. That used to be the rules that recreational could not fly at night but it was changed I believe in 2021.
@@FontanaOutdoors If you could point me to the rule change announcement for 44809 that adds night flight restrictions, or an updated advisory circular (current one I'm aware of is AC 91-57C) with an effective date of the new restriction I'd appreciate it. I think congress would have to pass this and I'm a bit skeptical since the FAA actually recommended the change allowing night flights for recreational pilots in the first place not that long ago. It is the government so anything can happen, but something seems off... Are you studying for 107 with Pilot institute?
@@AlienDrones I have been busy and did not look in to that yet . I’m almost done with my part 107 study did on my own since I have studied before just to refresh and finally get it over with. Decided finally do it after I saw short video on RUclips I can’t remember who posted it hopefully it was someone’s mistake I cant believe it can happen but who knows and the congress have to pass it of course glad to find your video channel a lot of good info we will just have to wait and see hope it won’t!!
@@FontanaOutdoors No problem. I studied by myself when I got my part 107 and the problem I found by searching things down is that there is a lot of simply wrong and outdated information out there. I don't think I would do it that way again myself but there is something gratifying about doing it yourself too! That's one of the reasons I do these types of video is to try and tamp out the misinformation out there, but it's never ending for sure. Good luck! 🤙🤙
You don't need a waiver now, you can follow the rules as in the video here ruclips.net/video/_sWW0Vxyee8/видео.html and no waiver is needed. These rules are still the same as they have been. You can also apply for a waiver and I'll be talking about that in an upcoming video.
Flying over people has never been considered a good idea by the rc community....Which has been decimated by this invasion of our privacy . The FAA in their wisdom makes it "legal" now so delivery drones can get your pizza and pron to you in a more efficient route. 🙄
Quick question. What does “Follow” the safety guidelines of a CBO mean? I can read a CBO’s guidelines online and abide/follow them. Do I actually need to join the CBO? Most CBO’s require you to be a member of the AMA and I’m finding all of this to be a bit pricey and, honestly, annoying.
Howdy! This means you need to pick 1 of the 4 available CBOs, download their rules and follow them. If asked you need to be able to tell an official which CBO rules you are following. None of the CBOs can require you to be a member according to the FAA, but the AMA tries to make that the case, so don't use them. I'd use the CBO discussed in this video and follow the rules as outlined and you'll be good! Let us know if you have questions, happy to help.
Recreational USA USE LAANC Aloft app and stay under 400, other than that ignore FAA, They are enforcing more rules on 600g drone than 250 pound manned ultra light aircraft. None of this will hold up in court if they try and they know it. The goal is dissuade our hobby to clear the airspace for google and amazon.
As a recreational pilot, I understand I can not take off at 'ground level', near a building, and then be able to ascend up to 400 feet over the roof of the building. Need 107 for that. However, as a recreational pilot, can I take off from the roof of the building itself and have 400 feet of airspace above me? It would not seem much different from taking off from a hill or ridge line other than one is man made and one is not but that doesn't seem like a material difference.
That is a good observation! There actually has been a lot of discussion about this at the FAA, and AGL or "Above Ground Level" is just that, _ground_ level. A structure does not count when you're talking recreational. Same thing goes the opposite way when you're part 107, the "above structure" part is "man-made" structures, so you can't fly 400' above the closest tree for instance, but a building counts, like you referenced. Don't ask about making sense, it is government so that is not a requirement, just is what it is... 😎 Hope this helps!
Or you could buy an ultralight aircraft that you could actually get in and fly around with absolutely no training and no license. This is what I think of when I hear about drone laws
@AlienDrones how can I go about looking for a Remote ID signal? Is there something I can buy? Or a website that shows logs? They were there again last night, but now 1 house down
@@H2oMechanic2RC There is no accumulated website, but you can try 3 different apps I'm aware of, OpenDroneID, DroneScanner or AirSentinal, an example here: ruclips.net/video/CY4syImI9xg/видео.htmlsi=9p703fTIN-NLtf6a&t=299 . Some of these don't work on Apple phones, but should give you the idea. Not all drones need remote ID to be legal but it is worth a try if you're curious.
No way I am consulting a three letter agency to fly a drone, no matter the size, exclusively within my own property boundaries for security purposes below tree level. No registration-it's not anyone's business if I fly on my small acreage to survey the parts I cannot monitor from the porch of my house. Having been a career military family, we know that nothing botches up anything worse than some federal agency putting on their neck stomping boots.
That's a matter of personal choice for sure. Every day I end up irritated by the DOT, DNR, DOD, NHS, FDA, FCC or the EPA in one way or another, don't even get me started on the FAA... 😂
If you fly for any reason that's not for fun _only_ or you don't follow every one of the recreational rules in 44809, then yes, you have to register even if it's under 249g and it will need remote ID added as well.
Of course! Same rules as with a drone that is under 250g, but for over 250g you just need registration as you mentioned, and need to have remote ID broadcasting then as well. Other than that, all the same... 🤙
It's not just Fed/FAA, State and Local rules are even more strict and harder to find what can and can't be done and where. Getting a 107 is useless also unless you buy a US only manufactured drone like a Skydio (DJI is banned). Then we have the general public who fear that we're somehow interested in their private lives ... I guess the GP think they are worthy of me wasting my time trying to discover their private lives? Sorry GP, I couldn't care less about your private lives, only your ego's could dream something like that up.
A clarification, DJI is not banned. It is only using federal funds to buy them for government contracts that is prohibited. Consumers or part 107 pilots can buy and use them or many other drones just fine, at this point.
@@AlienDrones Ok fair enough, per ASDA/NDAA DJI (or any drone not made in the US) can't be purchased by any Federal or State agency (regardless of funding source as to make sure contractors are excluded from using DJI). But realistically, if you're a 107 (flying for money aka commercial), you're NOT going buy any DJI drones now or in the future as that will limit your potential revenue. So sure, technically DJI aren't banned for 107 use, but realistically they will not be purchased by any 107 pilots. On the "recreation" side the laws vary so much from state to state to local that it's impossible to determine what is and isn't permitted ... then there is the VLOS which effectively makes my DJI Mini 4 Pro a 100 yard limit drone because there is no way anyone could see it over 100 yards away.
@@robainscough That is was cool about where I live,, my nearest neighbor is about 75-100 yards away to the east. the next is like 1/4 of a mile! I own at least 1/4 mile to my north, there is a road . a bank down to a creek to my west,, no one there,, to my south is owned by the neighbor to my east.. they could give two giggles where i fly,, they are actually amazed by it. Still I never fly over their houses, just my own. I don't really care what they are doing, !ike i said, you want something screwed up, get the government involved!
It is a Spec war on paper to imply "mine is better." Similar to battery life spec, it is so inflated that it is mostly irrelevant so don't be tricked by this. A lot of times it will show 6 km range and you're lucky if you get 1... There is a possible benefit that if one shows 10 km range that hopefully it might have better signal in a "noisy" area than one that states 1 km, but that's about it.
@@AlienDrones OK I’m sold so I take the test and then I go through the background check after and what is your course that you offer or do you offer one? Is it possible to have a conversation off of here?
@@taxxfree4792 No worries, I don't offer a course myself, but I work with Pilot Institute often who is the best in the industry. They offer a pass or your money back guarantee, and they genuinely are a professional group. You can check it out here and you can get $100 off through this link as well: bit.ly/3rwJrxV (or enter ALIENDRONES in the coupon section) . A lot of really good free information as well...
@@AlienDrones cool I just subscribed to your channel. I really would like to speak with someone that has knowledge in. What would this qualify me and what I would have to dispose. I’m currently fighting a misdemeanor marijuana case now, but I haven’t been convicted.
Actually, it needs ALL of this, with the 1 exception of registration IF you are flying recreationally and doing it legally. If not flying recreationally or not following ALL the recreational rules then Part 107 is needed and you'll need to follow the part 107 rules.
I literally bought my HS360S like 2 days ago and im planning on returning it because i just found out about all these rules and regulations and restrictions.
hi … been a subscriber for a long time but haven’t really used my old Mavic much the last few years. One of your other videos came up on my feed, the one with Pilot Institute, and it got me wanting to fly again. I did get an email in the Fall (2023) from the FAA about my drone flying registration needing renewal. So I started watching drone videos again and your video came up. I am going to try getting my 107 after watching your videos. I have always been afraid of not having a good enough memory at age 70 now to pass the test but like how Pilot Institute has a guarantee. So I am definitely going with them. I have a question about line of sight flying. I just watched a guy on youtube do a flying range test on a mini 4, I believe it was. He flew it a couple of miles but unfortunately he was 1000 feet short of making it back. How can you legally fly that far ? I can’t see my Mavic after it gets like a couple of hundred feet away with the naked eye ? After 400 feet or so the Mavic is so freaking small. Also this guy was not using a headset either and was only using the hand remote.
Glad to hear you will continue flying and do it safely. Pilot Institute is really the professional place to go, they are really good and keep all their training up to date. Take your time, ask questions and you'll do fine. They do have the guarantee as you mention and that's not just for the course but the test fee as well, which I've never seen anyone else offer. That's speaks to their confidence to me. You are correct in questioning the visual line of site distance. Every one of these you see done in the US is illegal, plain and simple. They are taunting the FAA to take action eventually and the problem will be when there is an issue, like you mentioned one not making it home and it lands on a highway and causes damage/injury, or gets in the way of a helicopter, etc, then they will pile on similar to what they are doing with PhillyDroneLife (link to my community page from a couple of days ago) www.youtube.com/@AlienDrones/community . I did do a video on BVLOS rules where I discuss all of the common excuses for doing this ruclips.net/video/jEADpjbtLZk/видео.html but bottom line, BVLOS is illegal without a waiver, which is very difficult to obtain... 🤙
@@AlienDrones yes I watched your video ( and many more here today ) about him. I do have a question that I would not rather post here about some of the videos I have done in the past. Do you take questions via an email address from people ? Thanks … btw .. love your channel 👍🏻👍🏻
@@AlienDrones Wow .. never checked that Community tab on any RUclips channel before. Never knew it was stuff like that. Damm … I am learning so much today !
@@robskully3539 Sure, if you go to the main channel ruclips.net/channel/UCj5Zkn8Qv_VPSVZJF1Sg3Qw and click the > next to the channel logo to see the description and there is an email option. Just mail there and I'll do my best to answer. I just don't put the email here because bots will pick it up and SPAM the address...
That's a good question! I believe it would be considered a moving vehicle by the FAA so you you'd need the proper classed drone or a flights over moving vehicles waiver.
@@AlienDrones I have a DJI Mini 2 and a non monetized channel but I can just imagine Homeland Security having an issue with that footage, I have some cool ocean Tugboat shots. Also would existing footage on RUclips be grandfathered ? or do people have to go through their old videos?
@@ExploringCabinsandMines There isn't any official "grandfathering" but the FAA won't be searching down your channel to check dates of any older videos. As long as you don't continue posting anything publicly that breaks the rules you'll be just fine...
If following all the recreational rules, do not have to register under 249g. If part 107, have to register and add remote ID regardless of the weight, below 249g or not.
@@BarrettBivensFishing That is true, but keep in mind if you register for any reason, even if you don't have to, that you need remote ID installed too. That sucks to have to put a RID module on a sub 250 drone, there's not a lot of places to put it and the transmission signal is impeded a little and the battery is used up faster...
@@AlienDrones I used my drone this morning and checked my drone scanner app it shows my remote ID on the drone scanner app and on the bottom of it says no OPERATOR ID
@@jess1t632 No Operator ID is necessary in the US, this is a requirement in the EU. A lot of times I'll put a name in there (as I showed when I configured the module in this video ruclips.net/video/2aOY0ff5_9o/видео.html ) but the FAA does not require this. I showed in that vid the broadcast requirements of the rule as well in case you're interested...
Morning! Thanks for the video! I’ve been watching for awhile now and good reminder. Question…so I live at a spot where I can’t take off any drones due to a few restrictions. Do you have a video on how to request waivers so that I can fly at least 15 m at my house? Could I call the air traffic control to get the waiver to upload on my DJI?
Hello! It depends on the nature of what "can't take off due to flight restrictions" means. If it is restricted airspace you can not fly there. It is restricted. If it is controlled airspace and you are looking for a way to get an "authorization" to fly there (not a waiver), you can apply for LAANC approval with an app like "Aloft" and if it is possible (and the airport has LAANC) they you should be able to get an approval there. If the airport does not have LAANC, then you need to go to FAA's DroneZone site and request approval, and this can take up to 30 days, sometimes longer www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers/authorization . Calling the control tower to get airspace approval is not a valid path anymore, so don't call them unless you are trying top be nice and notify them, but probably they will get annoyed (if you do reach them) so I'd shy away from calling in most situations. In addition, if by "can't take off" you mean the drone itself won't launch (mostly only DJI drones), then not only will you need the above authorizations, you will also need to unlock the drone, and there is some info on that here: tinyurl.com/3whfhp4f .
@@AlienDrones awesome! thank you for the detailed reply! wow! so, looking at this again (which I had last year) - I am screwed! lol...I cannot fly, as I'm in a restricted area and I tried for shits and giggles to see if I could get a LAANC approval and nope! this sucks...I don't understand why I can't fly 15 meters - that is not even close to the top of the tree lines and there is no way for a plane to go lower than the tree lines. I'm so mad...I have 2 DJI drones and can't fly them now. ugh..stupid!
@@drluketheduke1531 welcome to the club. Are you near a dod facility or next to a major airport? If it’s the drone itself that won’t take off then go to a drone hacking forum and flash the drone with a custom firmware for your model if available and disable the lockouts. Fly at your own risk…
Does anyone really anymore? You have to stress over the FAA bullshit before you even take off so you don’t even get the chance to have fun. The FAA makes flying a drone out to be more dangerous than as if driving a car on a congested freeway while half dead on a fentanyl overdose..
Good video. We wrote the lighting section of the FPV Freedom Coalition Safety Guidelines as we did because in the FAA's guidance, lighting was just that, guidance. Once we stipulated that guidance, it effectively became a rule because the Congressionally passed 44809 statue says recreational operators MUST follow the CBO Safety Guidelines. Dave Messina, Pres & CEO FPV Freedom Coalition.
Thanks! Indeed, it became a bit convoluted. I figure if there were any issues while night flying and the boot and suspenders approach of strobe/orientation lighting were used it will only be better for the pilot for sure.
The idea that we should have to comply with some club or organization's rules, as a matter of law, when we are not a member of that organization and not flying at one of their facilities is absolutely ridiculous. We should have to follow FAA rules and the FAA rules only. It's like a state saying you have to follow not only state & local driving laws but also the rules of the AAA motor club.
The reality is the purpose of regulations is to ban, the weight is ridiculous the max should have been at least 500g, likely more. I think the real purpose is to ban photography, the government seems at war with hand held cameras. Flying planes over 250 g isn't worth the trouble.
When I think about all of these drone laws it reminds me that I can buy an ultralight aircraft get in it and fly just about anywhere I want to go with no training and no license. Yeah let me Rush right over there to go fill out that 107 drone BS or whatever else crap they come up with
1. Fly only for recreational purposes (personal enjoyment). 2. Follow the safety guidelines of an FAA-recognized Community Based Organization (CBO). 3. Keep your drone within the visual line of sight or use a visual observer who is co-located (physically next to) and in direct communication with you. 4. Give way to and do not interfere with other aircraft. 5. Fly at or below FAA-authorized altitudes in controlled airspace (Class B, C, D, and surface Class E designated for an airport) only with prior FAA authorization by using LAANC or DroneZone. 6. Fly at or below 400 feet in Class G (uncontrolled) airspace. 7. Take The Recreational UAS Safety Test (TRUST) and carry proof of test passage when flying. 8. Have a current FAA registration, mark (PDF) your drones on the outside with the registration number, and carry proof of registration with you when flying. Note: Beginning September 16, 2023, if your drone requires an FAA registration number it will also be required to broadcast Remote ID 9. Do not operate your drone in a manner that endangers the safety of the national airspace system.
Thank you for making this video it has cleared many things up and when I want to buy a drone I can show my parents this so they know I don’t need a license to fly one but if I were to fly a custom built FPV drone that weigh about 450grams I wouldn’t sell any photos I’m all good right btw I’m 13 because I think if I did FPV it wouldn’t be in kind of sight because I have my goggles on but if i had someone like my brother watch it I would be good right? Thank you this video helped a lot the only thing that was confusing was the FPV part
No part 107 "license" necessary if just sharing with friends and family, but still need to follow the recreational rules shown here and take the TRUST test. It's free and easy, you can't fail and it really does give a lot of good information so you fly safe and have fun!
We the People are only obligated to follow Laws, not. Rules or Regulations. We have seen agencies like the EPA and ATF being shot down by the Supreme Court for acting outside their authority. These agencies have no Constitutional authority to exist let alone make Law. It's not difficult to read Articles I and III to understand the authority of Congress and the Courts. The "Rules" need to challenged as outside the Scope of the Law as passed by Congress.
Race Day Quads sued and lost. The FAA couldn't come up with a justification for the invasion of privacy and fell on the "National Security" claim in the end . Pretty weak move by the FAA suits if you ask me 🙄
I thought that FPV FC CBO guidelines required having a fire extinguisher, so I didn't fly my drone until I got one. 😂😂 Guess I didn't need it after all... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Funny. We continue to be an all-volunteer organization advocating the FAA on your behalf. We also spent a year and a half working with Flite Test on a made-in-the USA Remote ID broadcast module. Dave Messina
The 9 "simple" rules are for Federal only, then there are State rules, then there are Local rules, even city rules, in fact the FAA/Fed rules are the least of my concerns. Even with recreational purposes, I can't post my video anywhere ... if I place it on RUclips even when it's NOT monetized, RUclips still runs ads and it's considered revenue (aka commercial) even if I'm not seeing any of the revenue. Finally my DJI Mini 4 Pro has a 7 mile range, I lose sight of my drone within just a 100 yards because it's tiny (see how the
Thanks for sharing! A quick clarification, if your flight was for fun only, you can post to RUclips even if RUclips itself monetizes it. RUclips would need to have whatever license is necessary to commercialize the content, not you as the originator (but honestly even that's a bit of a stretch). The state and local rules are additional to the FAA portion and can be a pain, but in some areas they can be non-existent as well which is why that was covered here, perhaps you didn't make it quite that far in the video.
@AlienDrones not according to the Face of the FAA the "drone guy" he has said many times on many live streams and Q&As at this point, basically if it has a camera on the drone the FAA considers it commercial. That is a huge part of the problem. The right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing at the FAA. No two people will ever give you the same answer. They are purposely making it as confusing and difficult as possible. They want as few people flying as they can get before they launch UTM.
@@bigdatapimp Sorry, having a camera on the drone does not make it commercial by default in the US. This is simply not the case. (I think I read somewhere that this might be a definition in Europe somewhere). I have talked with Kevin "the drone guy" many times and he has been fairly consistent, to the extent you can be with ambiguous rules. (Here's just one place where he mentions recreational taking pictures and video ruclips.net/video/R_4B5c61QU8/видео.htmlsi=4zKONZ7_ov72Guoj&t=703 ). I agree that different people say different things, and I've experienced this myself. To be fair though, drone rules have changed and evolved over time since this is a relatively new industry, and the FAA has not done a great job of being clear and removing ambiguity and that is certainly a failing. I do try hard to add clarity and simplify things on this channel and most of my content is backed up by hours of emails and phone calls to the FAA and other industry professionals before anything is published. One of the problems is that because things have been evolving, and RUclips and the internet in general is static (with regard to past content), there can be information out there which was correct at the time but now is no longer valid. So we have a lot of work as consumers to figure it out which is why I always recommend doing your own due diligence...
@@bigdatapimp Yep, exactly and there is no "Justice" here. One huge point is VLOS ... that alone makes any flight (be it 107 or recreational) illegal. When is the last time you flew your drone with VLOS? And the smaller the drones the sooner VLOS is lost. Nobody seems to really want to talk about VLOS and go on some rant about "well you don't need to look at it all the time" ... that's NOT what VLOS means. So unless we all operate our drones within 100 yards, then we've violated Federal rules and the cops know that and Feds know that and FAA know that. Remote ID is just a big red "come fine me" signal.
Is there still not just one trusty app that we can use to get all the information/approval we need to fly from one source? What are the most trusted apps used these days?
Would love it if you were the first to address the issue that nobody is talking about. If you fly under the recreational exception and you break one the 9 simple rules, your flight could lose the ability to claim the exemption and at that time, you would be subject to all of part 107. Meaning you are likely flying without a certificate, etc. Does this make sense? I understand this is not automatically triggered but it could be applicable and subject you to huge fines because as an intended recreational pilot there are a lot of part 107 rules that you don't comply with. The popular reply is the FAA would never do this but but they *can*, right? I think recreational pilots need some sort of safeguard or assurance that if you make a mistake unintentionally, you won't be thrown into the higher requirements. If forget to bring my TRUST, I could be considered a commercial pilot?
I've actually discussed this with the FAA and the message is this: The FAA (or the local LEO) isn't wandering around looking for someone who forgot to bring their TRUST certificate with them or even flying 402'. The important takeaway is that if you are genuinely trying to follow the rules and something happens or if you miss something (though technically that flight would revert to part 107) the FAA will simply work with the pilot to educate so they understand the rules better and that will be that. The real problem comes in when there are repeat offenders that are truly creating a safety problem, like flying down runways or chasing manned aircraft across the sky, then all the rules, defaulting to part 107 and penalties if needed will become a possibility. You really have to be "that guy" that we all read about and think to ourselves "man, that was stupid" to get real penalties levied from the FAA. Being "educated" may be scary or even humiliating, but so far that's the default posture from the FAA so you learn from the experience and "don't do that again"... hope this helps.
So basically, if you're trying to just have fun. You're good but if you are intentionally breaking rules then they're gonna make an example of you. That the jist?
If these rules existed when I was a kid I never would have got into RC aviation. If I never would have gotten into RC aviation, I never would have become a licensed pilot. These rules are contributing to the death of aviation.
Indeed, there are a lot of things that would be different if things back when were like they are now. I walked to the store or rode my bike by myself 2-3 miles all the time, from the time I was 7 or 8 years old. As long as I was home by suppertime I was good. Now my parents would be in jail and I would be directed to a safe space with a therapy dog. Common sense and personal responsibility, where did you go?
wanna fly for fun?? Buy a drone Get a license, maybe 2 if you want to play and work Register it Insure it Get Remote ID- unless flying a FRIA Download a bunch of apps for clearance Hope you aren't anywhere near a no fly zone find a FRIA Pay them Pay AMA Flying FPV?? You need a buddy Have fun, because if you don't follow the rules, you're gonna stack felonies like a Big Mac
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Find out what Paperwork you need with you when flying a drone here: ruclips.net/video/qzg0AigUnZw/видео.html
As someone who flies FPV freestyle, the ridiculous rules requiring a spotter forces me to not comply. I work 50 to 60 hrs a week, in order to get some flying time in I usually have to do it unplanned when i have some free time, can't really just walk down the street and find some random person to be my spotter. It's completely unnecessary when I'm flying with 200ft and away from any people.
it is really sad , that we have that rule regardless how smart our drones are. now a days even if you build it to run on Betaflight or INAV they come fully features with GPS rescue or return to home
The reality is FFV is ten times safer than flying by eye from the ground. Banning it just harassment.
@@mikeb1596 funny thing is, I been watching Avata 2 reviews, and 90% of the videos have no spotter on them. But then why would you need it with a tiny drone barely above the ground anyways
This is why i quit flying altogether (full size and rc) too many hoops to jump through. They have the system over regulated. This will bite them eventually.
i don’t blame you… BUT, if we all quit, the FAA wins
It won’t bite them because rec flyers are annoying to them. They want to charge big $$$ for commercial flyers and get rid of the rec flyers by creating more fees and restrictions.
The FAA don't give a rat's a$$.It is called "CONTROL".
@@memefpv better than stressing out over legalese no one understands or is subjective to every single reader not employed at the FAA
@@memefpv Imagine thinking you're gonna win against the federal government
the same over here. Just fly out in nature and do not interfere with others, quiet and without wild behavior nor drugs-alcohol 😢 use your brain 🧠.
Have fun 🤩
and screw all the bloody
rules / a nightmare.
"Use your brain" is the hard part for many... 😅
@@AlienDrones HAHAHAAHAHAH
2c Announce power on... In the aviation community the standard phrase is "Clearrrrrr PROP!" yelled at the top of the lungs. Bonus points if you get a solid "Hoorah!" from a fellow aviator.
I couldn't care less what rules they make. Have seen that the US government doesn't care about breaking laws themselves why should I care?
Absolutely true
@@86foureyefreak22 Because while the A-Holes don't find themselves accountable, I guarantee they will hold you accountable.
They do realize most of us do not care right? we will never have remote ID on our quads
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Just purchased a DJI Mini 2 SE. I intend to get my part 107 but in the mean time I’m only flying over my own 10 acres while I learn how to fly it proficiently.
Nice, have fun!
WHOOOO I thought there were new rules, this was just a refresher on what already is! Still needed for anyone who just purchased a drone!
🤙
So if I’m flying a drone for fun, and I’m not having fun it’s illegal..,
Amazing we live in a country with more regulations for a harmless RC plane than lethal firearms.
You said it man
😂 Definitely not. Last time I checked a drone doesn’t require a minimum age or a background check to purchase. The ATF has their hands on firearms and the rules there are equally or more complex and up to interpretation.
@ firearms don’t have national registration. Drones do.
@@Wilhuf1 maybe they should put remote ID on firearms so you can publicly see who has them and where lol. Since they do it for our toy planes...
I have watched this video twice now. And I have been to the FAA website. But I still can’t find any information saying that a person who is flying recreationally has to take the trust certificate. However I do see where the FAA clearly states that the person who is flying sub 250 grams should still follow the guidelines. And fly in VLOS and below 400 feet. And not to fly near airports or restricted airspace. But the only information that I can find for a person flying recreationally and is below 250 grams does not need to register there drone. And if they don’t have to register they don’t need to take a trust test. If you take a kid who goes to Walmart and gets a toy drone. The kid doesn’t have to take a test to fly their drone in the back yard. It would be hard for the kid who can’t even read yet 😂
Hello, not sure what you're even saying and I don't know where you're looking because the FAA site does not say some of these things and what you state is simply wrong. From the video, check out rule #7, it is very clear about taking the TRUST test. ruclips.net/video/b3yQYl7eAeQ/видео.htmlsi=TUWt2cjbquyfs5F1&t=108 . This is an actual screenshot from the FAA's website. The actual FAA website is here: www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers and you will see rule #7 with a link to the TRUST test there (towards the bottom). Here is the final link to the TRUST test: www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers/knowledge_test_updates (towards the bottom pick any of the test administrators). Here is a link that takes you directly to one of the test administrators to take the test. www.scouting.org/the-recreational-uas-safety-test/ Click "Begin Exam". The Video reviews these rules and the cheat sheet has links to most everything talked about. Children are either required to take the TRUST test or the parent must take it and be the responsible pilot supervising the youth. Keep in mind we're talking about recreational only here, if you are doing tutorials or drone testing on a RUclips channel for instance these rules do not apply, you need to be part 107 certified, not recreational and is regardless if you're monetized or making money or not on that channel. Sorry, I don't know how else I can help but if you have specific questions let us know.
High quality informative content, subscribed 👌
Thanks for the kind words!
Said it ten million times before its easier if you just ignore the rules and fly with common sense
Whoo, 10 million, that's a lot.
We don't agree. If you are asked for any of the required recreational 44809 documentation and you don't have it, you automatically do not qualify to fly under 44809 and you revert to part 107. If you don't have your part 107 and appropriate documentation and markings on the drone, those are just additional civil violations. This technique of catching recreational operators and writing them up under failed part 107 regs is taught by the FAA in their LEAP training.
It's easier to just ignore the rules and drive however you want. Which works okay as long as you keep getting lucky. Then eventually, one day, bad luck happens.
Then, when sh*t happens, either you were following the rules/law and an accident happened, or you were flagrantly violated all the laws and injured someone. The path from there is very different if you decided to give the federal authorities the finger.
I could not agree more 😊
Bad idea ... really bad idea, FAA and remote ID and banned DJI = $32000 - $100000 fine.
Thanks for the clarification
, really appreciate it!
Thanks for sharing!
Im torn. Not sure if i should go with the mini 4 pro with the extended batteries that takes it over 249g. On one hand id prefer not to register and keep it under 249. Other hand id like the bigger batteries. And i might want to try and do more than rec. Not a fan of the remote id though.
What way did you end up going, did you go with the regular batteries or go with the bigger ones? I'm facing the same decision right now
@@dayforit1750 hey, I went with the extended battery combo. So far the extra battery has been helpful. Definitely would feel more rushed with 15 less minutes. Still wonder about the remote id being there but no issues so far I guess. Haven't flown around too many people though
@HighHouseDark_ Sweet, thanks mate. I'll be buying mine in the next couple of days, still undecided but might be guided with whatever I can get the best deal on.
Great information. I needed the reminder of some of this. I have not flown my drone in awhile.
Thanks for sharing! Time to get out and fly! 💸
Rules for thee, not for me. Or is it rules for me, and not for thee? Either way.
I’ll use nypd and every local news channel. There were drones flying over 10s of thousands of people in NYC for NYE. Same at football stadiums.
If i fly my drone over a stadium, which i won’t. Suits are coming to visit me at my house.
The nypd puts up drones and flys over crowds in an instant.
I’m good knowing i fly my drone minding my business and as part a 107.
Vlos. I see the entire horizon left to right. Thats literally line of sight.
Cbo tells me to fly in an airfield and to join local clubs to use their fields.
I fly with laanc if need. The drone won’t fly, it hits an invisible wall.
I haven’t flown because dji refuses to fix my broken from day of purchase drone.
Thanks for the explanations. The way I see is: Rules + Regulations = NO DRONE.
Sometimes that's the way it looks, but we can still fly! 😉
Great informational video Thanks
Thanks for sharing!
Why is the government taking all the fun out of everything! I’m afraid to use my own drone anymore at all! Ridiculous!
These are rules so Amazon can own the sky's.
After all this why even get a drone smh they make it impossible all I want to do is fly it in the park 🤦♂️
Depending on the state, in order to fly in approved areas, specific CBO membership and flying permit may be required. NJ state law, county and city make it difficult to fly.
I thought North Carolina was the only one requiring a separate "permit" which they now have cancelled. Fairly certain it is part of the federal rules that CBO membership is not to be required. If a state does that I would think they could be sued and would lose for preempting federal law. How long has NJ been requiring this?
@@AlienDrones yes sir, you are correct the federal rules only require adherence to one of the four approved CBOs rec guidelines. Flying in state parks are prohibited. Flying in county parks may happen but only in stated locations which incur a county flying permit fee. In order to get the flying permit in the county I live in requires an AMA Membership card in order to fly in that area which requires the permit.
@@AlienDrones So, I called my county's park and recreation department. They have chosen to enforce AMA membership because liability insurance is part of the membership. I researched other NJ counties. The requirement is the same, but the price of the flying permit goes up because each county has resident and non-resident prices.
@@michaelkilinski2809 That is soo wrong of them. I hope someone has the persistence to fight and sue against this illegal law...
@@AlienDrones Welcome to New Jersey! I can't imagine what hoops you have to go through to fly Part 107. If I were the other three CBOs, I'd sue.
Keep up the good content.
The "announce when powering up" rule is for safety and etiquette when flying analog FPV with others. Powering up can knock somebody's 5.8ghz analog FPV feed out for a second or really degrade the signal. Announcing power up lets other pilots be ready for it.
Thanks for sharing
Fpv shouldn’t even be allowed outside of in a gym or rec building there is zero situational awareness tot he sides or rear. All you see is the front cam bird eye view
@@0utcast We've been doing it for years at our local AMA RC club. It's perfectly safe using a spotter ... which is one of the FAA's rules for FPV. You forget that DJI products are also FPV through the DJI fly app. Be careful wishing for FPV to be restricted unless you want DJI products restricted as well.
@@0utcast A constantly moving view. I can see people approaching from all sides via my quadcopters camera. It's called paying attention.😉
great video ! can sub 250g drones without RID, such as the Mini 2 se, have to be only flown in FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIAs), or can they be flown Anywhere ? (asking in particular about the Mini 2SE ! without RID ! )
Can be flown recreationally without RID only in allowed Class G airspace or other areas that are legal to fly in... A good RID Reference is this latest video: ruclips.net/video/_GkvNlRYtqc/видео.html
@@AlienDrones at 6 min. it’s very focused on part 107
@@michaelduva5217 If you're trying to find a way to know where you can fly legally this is an outline of how to find out. _Where_ you can fly is the same if you're part 107 or recreational. The only difference is if you are not recreational (or part 107) then you always need registration and remote ID too. ruclips.net/video/H3_oJ5ZKiwA/видео.html
@@AlienDronesoh wow. thank you for all the replies,!!! I am both recreational trust and part 107. I was trying to decide for buying a DJI mini 2 se. or not. it seems from what you have said, I would be fine flying it pretty much anywhere in class G (and do not have to stay in the recreational fields with the dji mini 2se as long as i’m flying for fun not work. sound correct ? or am i stuck in Friars only if i don’t add an external RID ?
@@michaelduva5217 You are correct, but because you mentioned you have your part 107, please indulge me a moment to clarify. If you fly recreationally AND you do not have the mini 2 SE registered, then you can fly in any Class G with no remote ID and you are good as long as you follow 44809 (recreational) rules. If you fly this drone under part 107 and register the drone (because it is required to be registered under part 107 rules) then you will need to add a remote ID module to it, *THEN* you can fly anywhere in Class G as you mentioned. No need to fly in a FRIA. IF you decide to remove the RID module but leave the drone registered, then you will only be allowed to fly it in a FRIA because by the nature of being registered it requires RID and you don't have it in that instance. I know it is convoluted but hope this helps
CBOs and regulations are left intentionally vague.
Example from the Flite Test CBO: "The FTCA does not permit recreational flyers to fly over people or so close as to create a potential hazard should the aircraft, or pilot, not perform as intended" along with "Do not fly your model aircraft closer than 50 feet laterally from other people/spectators in the designated spectator area."
So Is this 50 feet on a perfectly flat 180 degree plane or is 50 feet at a 45 degree angle acceptable?
If I am 200 feet above people but 10 feet to the left and right per the verbiage I am in compliance.
Understood, I hear they are ambiguous to still allow some room for common sense based on the specific situation. My advice would be to not think quite so hard about this. They are guidelines for safety so just view them that way and do your best to comply and you'll be fine. By definition "Laterally" is side to side in a plane, so that is 50' horizontally to the side of a person regardless of altitude.
I'm here in Virginia asking for permission to fly in some of the parks here in my area. The supervisor there said he's not sure. I have the app Before u fly. So far so good. Fimi x8 mini pro. Up an away. Keep on flying my friend
Nice! Usually their default is to just say "no" even if it's not true. "Fly it like you stole it!" 🤙
Great job thanks for looking out for us
Thanks for taking the time to share!
I wonder how the Chevron decision revamp that's currently being considered by the Supreme Court will affect drone rules? Will Congress need to specify directly through new legislation?
It would be interesting to say the least.
It will do nothing because no will challenge these regulations in court. Everyone is much too happy with the rules and no one is upset about them. I proved this by attempting to start a legal fund exactly for law suits like that, and no one single person offered to help. Infact Pilot Institute basically said nah, we work with the FAA so we don't think suing them is necessary. A law suit is the only time chevron would come into play.
So.... Does this mean Its always illegal to fly a drone on a coastline/mountain if you cant see it? I just found out about this hobby and its getting yo the point where i can't find a place to fly and im worried about getting in legal trouble. Like, its just as dangerous as someone zooming around with a fast RC car. Come on.
Correct, if you cannot see the drone it is beyond visual line of site and it is illegal. Even if you are close but go behind a building, if you can't see the drone it is BVLOS. Difference with an RC car is they won't divert a flight for life helicopter when it's trying to get to a hospital. In contrast, your RC car isn't in the airspace so an ambulance may have to swerve a bit or will simply run it over and move on. Indeed, some of the drone rules are silly, I get that, but if you think about BVLOS and it is your parent or child in the medical helicopter after an accident, and they have to divert because some random drone is tooling around in their path because it is obviously a stupid rule meant for someone else, somehow it seems a bit more reasonable...
@@AlienDrones thank you for the reply! I'm just concerned and appreciate your feedback. I watched the live FAA talk that you had previously And I'm just wanting to make sure I follow all the rules properly. I understand the overall purpose of making sure that you're always within line of sight It's just unfortunate that it's a little limiting. I do realize that it would be pretty hard to get in trouble with that for a under sub 250 drone though. It's hard because I'm new but I am looking into making a toothpick possibly, Because I have seen a lot of two S sub 250 that are capable of decent flight and long range.
Are there any rules that prevent people from harassing wildlife with drones? I would hope there is some fine or deterrent to prevent someone from doing that.
There are laws on the books that do just that but they are not FAA rules, but most of the time local rules, usually by state. Some areas like national parks for instance wildlife harassment is a federal rule, so this exists nearly everywhere in one way or another...
Mikey did this.
I tried to buy the new DJI S3 and at check-out I got a page that said “not available in your region” … I live in the US (Oregon) … so I guess the ban on DJI is real.
Maybe it's just banned in Oregon, the politicians there seem to live in their own little world. Perhaps you can sneak across the border to Washington under the cover of darkness and get one... 😂😂
@@AlienDrones Maybe the cult of MAGA can get me one from Mexico if they can climb the wall … I hear Mexico has cat and dog stew they serve to MAGA … it must be true because the Orange buffalo told me … ROFL
This is off topic but I wonder if you know the answer to this issue. How I can set the height on my Mini 4 Pro to 50 feet instead of the default minimum of 65 feet? Asked for LAANC permission and it said I could fly up to 50 feet then was unable to fly. The drone defaults to a minimum of 65 feet.
You know, as a person that was in the hobby long before multi rotors where even a thing. When the dragon fly quad copter was called a "drone" by the company so they could make it sound cool. I was also there when working in a hobby store in the early 2000s saw the best/worst marketing to get people into the hobby that in some ways had no business being any kind of pilot. I watched as people did the stupidest things with their quads.
I got out the hobby for a while in 2018 then moved back to the house a grew up in and learned to fly at. I decided to dust off my helicopters and airplanes and get back in. now i find myself in restricted air space and now have to go learn how to get laanc approval to fly in a place that not only i had flow in for 2 decades the guy who had an airfield just down the road an 1/8 of a mile away had been flying for 2 decades before that. We live 3 miles away from an afb.
The ama rules were just fine.
Thanks to the people who went out and bought consumer drones and ruined it for the rest of us hobbyist and giving ammunition for the government to be 8n just another part of our lives.
Is there a difference in rules if drone is more than 250G besides registering for recreational use?
The rules are the same, only additions are registration and remote ID required.
The rule of thumb. Is BROKEN!😊
I broke a finger once and it sucked. Never a thumb though.
I was going to buy one until I found out I have to keep line of sight.
Question: Can i put my recreational flight videos on RUclips as long as there is no text or voice that could be considered instructional? Background music only? Just for friends and family to see recreational flight? Thanks in advance and great video!
Hello! Short answer, yes you can! 🤙
@@AlienDrones TY very much again Keith. Blue skies!
Can someone show me where it specifically says sub 250g drones do not require registration if operated under recreational rules. The rec rules, ie 49 USC 44809, state drones require registration to fall under said rules, it does not state "if needed." Yes, the FAA says on their webpage for flying recreationally
All drones flights are part 107 flights, unless they meet the "Exception" for recreational fliers, under 44809. The same language is used for registration, all drones require registration but there is an "exception" of 44809 and
Great video nice information cool channel
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I have that cheat sheet download thanks
@@bobbylefebvre6298 Thanks for letting me know it worked. First time trying a file for download...
Please correct me if I’m wrong been studying part 107 a lot I don’t think recreational can fly at night starts in March this year unless you’re part 107 and still you have to have waiver 30 min after sunset 30 min before sunrise
That is incorrect. Currently there is no restriction for night flights under 44809. That used to be the rules that recreational could not fly at night but it was changed I believe in 2021.
@@AlienDrones Thank you very much the only why I’m getting part 107, in March 2024 this will change I believe
@@FontanaOutdoors If you could point me to the rule change announcement for 44809 that adds night flight restrictions, or an updated advisory circular (current one I'm aware of is AC 91-57C) with an effective date of the new restriction I'd appreciate it. I think congress would have to pass this and I'm a bit skeptical since the FAA actually recommended the change allowing night flights for recreational pilots in the first place not that long ago. It is the government so anything can happen, but something seems off... Are you studying for 107 with Pilot institute?
@@AlienDrones I have been busy and did not look in to that yet . I’m almost done with my part 107 study did on my own since I have studied before just to refresh and finally get it over with. Decided finally do it after I saw short video on RUclips I can’t remember who posted it hopefully it was someone’s mistake I cant believe it can happen but who knows and the congress have to pass it of course glad to find your video channel a lot of good info we will just have to wait and see hope it won’t!!
@@FontanaOutdoors No problem. I studied by myself when I got my part 107 and the problem I found by searching things down is that there is a lot of simply wrong and outdated information out there. I don't think I would do it that way again myself but there is something gratifying about doing it yourself too! That's one of the reasons I do these types of video is to try and tamp out the misinformation out there, but it's never ending for sure. Good luck! 🤙🤙
Can you go deeper into flights over people, where waivers are no longer needed?
You don't need a waiver now, you can follow the rules as in the video here ruclips.net/video/_sWW0Vxyee8/видео.html and no waiver is needed. These rules are still the same as they have been. You can also apply for a waiver and I'll be talking about that in an upcoming video.
Flying over people has never been considered a good idea by the rc community....Which has been decimated by this invasion of our privacy . The FAA in their wisdom makes it "legal" now so delivery drones can get your pizza and pron to you in a more efficient route. 🙄
Quick question. What does “Follow” the safety guidelines of a CBO mean?
I can read a CBO’s guidelines online and abide/follow them. Do I actually need to join the CBO?
Most CBO’s require you to be a member of the AMA and I’m finding all of this to be a bit pricey and, honestly, annoying.
Howdy! This means you need to pick 1 of the 4 available CBOs, download their rules and follow them. If asked you need to be able to tell an official which CBO rules you are following. None of the CBOs can require you to be a member according to the FAA, but the AMA tries to make that the case, so don't use them. I'd use the CBO discussed in this video and follow the rules as outlined and you'll be good! Let us know if you have questions, happy to help.
@@AlienDrones Excellent! The answer I was hoping for. Thank you!
Recreational USA USE LAANC Aloft app and stay under 400, other than that ignore FAA, They are enforcing more rules on 600g drone than 250 pound manned ultra light aircraft. None of this will hold up in court if they try and they know it. The goal is dissuade our hobby to clear the airspace for google and amazon.
Good tips, Keith. 👍
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As a recreational pilot, I understand I can not take off at 'ground level', near a building, and then be able to ascend up to 400 feet over the roof of the building. Need 107 for that. However, as a recreational pilot, can I take off from the roof of the building itself and have 400 feet of airspace above me? It would not seem much different from taking off from a hill or ridge line other than one is man made and one is not but that doesn't seem like a material difference.
That is a good observation! There actually has been a lot of discussion about this at the FAA, and AGL or "Above Ground Level" is just that, _ground_ level. A structure does not count when you're talking recreational. Same thing goes the opposite way when you're part 107, the "above structure" part is "man-made" structures, so you can't fly 400' above the closest tree for instance, but a building counts, like you referenced. Don't ask about making sense, it is government so that is not a requirement, just is what it is... 😎 Hope this helps!
Or you could buy an ultralight aircraft that you could actually get in and fly around with absolutely no training and no license. This is what I think of when I hear about drone laws
We had 6 drones flying over our home at 1am here in Virginia...any ideas why? One got within 300ft of my house and we could hear it easily.
Should look for a remote ID signal, that's what it is supposed to be for, to help identify the purpose of the flight.
@AlienDrones how can I go about looking for a Remote ID signal? Is there something I can buy? Or a website that shows logs? They were there again last night, but now 1 house down
@@H2oMechanic2RC There is no accumulated website, but you can try 3 different apps I'm aware of, OpenDroneID, DroneScanner or AirSentinal, an example here: ruclips.net/video/CY4syImI9xg/видео.htmlsi=9p703fTIN-NLtf6a&t=299 . Some of these don't work on Apple phones, but should give you the idea. Not all drones need remote ID to be legal but it is worth a try if you're curious.
@@AlienDrones thanks
No way I am consulting a three letter agency to fly a drone, no matter the size, exclusively within my own property boundaries for security purposes below tree level. No registration-it's not anyone's business if I fly on my small acreage to survey the parts I cannot monitor from the porch of my house. Having been a career military family, we know that nothing botches up anything worse than some federal agency putting on their neck stomping boots.
That's a matter of personal choice for sure. Every day I end up irritated by the DOT, DNR, DOD, NHS, FDA, FCC or the EPA in one way or another, don't even get me started on the FAA... 😂
GREAT information. I passed my Trust certificated for recreational flying. THANKS for the FREE cheat sheet. The ALFOT is confusing.
Thanks!
Fantastic job, you couldn't have put this simpler. Thank You
Thanks! I tried to simplify it as much as I could, appreciate you taking the time to share!
6:13..Are you required to register your drone even under 249Grams?
If you fly for any reason that's not for fun _only_ or you don't follow every one of the recreational rules in 44809, then yes, you have to register even if it's under 249g and it will need remote ID added as well.
I fly recreationally, under 249grams. Is it legal to fly a drone recreationally over 249grams, as long as I register it with the FAA?
Of course! Same rules as with a drone that is under 250g, but for over 250g you just need registration as you mentioned, and need to have remote ID broadcasting then as well. Other than that, all the same... 🤙
Good information, thanks for sharing.
Thanks! 🤙
Great video!! Yup, leave it to the FAA (aka., the government) to complicate matters!
Thanks for sharing! Indeed, not sure why complicated is the norm, just makes it harder for everyone!
It's not just Fed/FAA, State and Local rules are even more strict and harder to find what can and can't be done and where. Getting a 107 is useless also unless you buy a US only manufactured drone like a Skydio (DJI is banned). Then we have the general public who fear that we're somehow interested in their private lives ... I guess the GP think they are worthy of me wasting my time trying to discover their private lives? Sorry GP, I couldn't care less about your private lives, only your ego's could dream something like that up.
A clarification, DJI is not banned. It is only using federal funds to buy them for government contracts that is prohibited. Consumers or part 107 pilots can buy and use them or many other drones just fine, at this point.
@@AlienDrones Ok fair enough, per ASDA/NDAA DJI (or any drone not made in the US) can't be purchased by any Federal or State agency (regardless of funding source as to make sure contractors are excluded from using DJI). But realistically, if you're a 107 (flying for money aka commercial), you're NOT going buy any DJI drones now or in the future as that will limit your potential revenue. So sure, technically DJI aren't banned for 107 use, but realistically they will not be purchased by any 107 pilots. On the "recreation" side the laws vary so much from state to state to local that it's impossible to determine what is and isn't permitted ... then there is the VLOS which effectively makes my DJI Mini 4 Pro a 100 yard limit drone because there is no way anyone could see it over 100 yards away.
@@robainscough That is was cool about where I live,, my nearest neighbor is about 75-100 yards away to the east. the next is like 1/4 of a mile! I own at least 1/4 mile to my north, there is a road . a bank down to a creek to my west,, no one there,, to my south is owned by the neighbor to my east.. they could give two giggles where i fly,, they are actually amazed by it. Still I never fly over their houses, just my own. I don't really care what they are doing, !ike i said, you want something screwed up, get the government involved!
So why they selling drones that fly for miles 🤔 if you need to see them all times
It is a Spec war on paper to imply "mine is better." Similar to battery life spec, it is so inflated that it is mostly irrelevant so don't be tricked by this. A lot of times it will show 6 km range and you're lucky if you get 1... There is a possible benefit that if one shows 10 km range that hopefully it might have better signal in a "noisy" area than one that states 1 km, but that's about it.
Boy what a dark matching set !! Even ur shirt good thing the head was moving ❤lol
If I’m fighting a misdemeanor marijuana case, but I haven’t been convicted does that disclose me from taking my part 107
It does not disqualify you directly. They consider nature of any offences and recency when deciding.
@@AlienDrones OK I’m sold so I take the test and then I go through the background check after and what is your course that you offer or do you offer one? Is it possible to have a conversation off of here?
@@taxxfree4792 No worries, I don't offer a course myself, but I work with Pilot Institute often who is the best in the industry. They offer a pass or your money back guarantee, and they genuinely are a professional group. You can check it out here and you can get $100 off through this link as well: bit.ly/3rwJrxV (or enter ALIENDRONES in the coupon section) . A lot of really good free information as well...
@@AlienDrones cool I just subscribed to your channel. I really would like to speak with someone that has knowledge in. What would this qualify me and what I would have to dispose. I’m currently fighting a misdemeanor marijuana case now, but I haven’t been convicted.
Even the cops in my area don't know what a "trust" is. From their own words "we have to much going on to be the FAAs "do" boys"
So my tiny whoop doesnt need any of this?
Actually, it needs ALL of this, with the 1 exception of registration IF you are flying recreationally and doing it legally. If not flying recreationally or not following ALL the recreational rules then Part 107 is needed and you'll need to follow the part 107 rules.
Wouldn't 'without visual aids' mean I can't wear my glasses?
Or contacts... 8-/
Corrective lenses (such as eyeglasses) are specifically called out as an exemption to the "no visual aids" definition, so no problem...
Glasses and contacts are ok but not binoculars or telescopes.
Im a pirate...i dont register anything 😂
Do you have a parrot? 🦜Arrrgh...
How about flying on my property. Shouldn't be anyone flying over my property under 400ft unless they are crashing...
Unfortunately the airspace is public use, so if it's 50' or 400' anyone has legal right to fly "over" private property, if we like it or not.
Ah, I remember when there were no actual FAA-recognized CBOs, though they stated you still needed to follow. Hahaha.
Yes they did! 😅
Good info
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And do not drive any faster than the posted speed limit. Lol
Oops, guess I missed that one. 😅
Im not FAA property. End of story.
its time I quit flying before some ass_ole cop arrests me for flying a drone.
I literally bought my HS360S like 2 days ago and im planning on returning it because i just found out about all these rules and regulations and restrictions.
hi … been a subscriber for a long time but haven’t really used my old Mavic much the last few years. One of your other videos came up on my feed, the one with Pilot Institute, and it got me wanting to fly again. I did get an email in the Fall (2023) from the FAA about my drone flying registration needing renewal. So I started watching drone videos again and your video came up. I am going to try getting my 107 after watching your videos. I have always been afraid of not having a good enough memory at age 70 now to pass the test but like how Pilot Institute has a guarantee. So I am definitely going with them. I have a question about line of sight flying. I just watched a guy on youtube do a flying range test on a mini 4, I believe it was. He flew it a couple of miles but unfortunately he was 1000 feet short of making it back. How can you legally fly that far ? I can’t see my Mavic after it gets like a couple of hundred feet away with the naked eye ? After 400 feet or so the Mavic is so freaking small. Also this guy was not using a headset either and was only using the hand remote.
Glad to hear you will continue flying and do it safely. Pilot Institute is really the professional place to go, they are really good and keep all their training up to date. Take your time, ask questions and you'll do fine. They do have the guarantee as you mention and that's not just for the course but the test fee as well, which I've never seen anyone else offer. That's speaks to their confidence to me. You are correct in questioning the visual line of site distance. Every one of these you see done in the US is illegal, plain and simple. They are taunting the FAA to take action eventually and the problem will be when there is an issue, like you mentioned one not making it home and it lands on a highway and causes damage/injury, or gets in the way of a helicopter, etc, then they will pile on similar to what they are doing with PhillyDroneLife (link to my community page from a couple of days ago) www.youtube.com/@AlienDrones/community . I did do a video on BVLOS rules where I discuss all of the common excuses for doing this ruclips.net/video/jEADpjbtLZk/видео.html but bottom line, BVLOS is illegal without a waiver, which is very difficult to obtain... 🤙
@@AlienDrones yes I watched your video ( and many more here today ) about him. I do have a question that I would not rather post here about some of the videos I have done in the past. Do you take questions via an email address from people ? Thanks … btw .. love your channel 👍🏻👍🏻
@@AlienDrones Wow .. never checked that Community tab on any RUclips channel before. Never knew it was stuff like that. Damm … I am learning so much today !
@@robskully3539 Sure, if you go to the main channel ruclips.net/channel/UCj5Zkn8Qv_VPSVZJF1Sg3Qw and click the > next to the channel logo to see the description and there is an email option. Just mail there and I'll do my best to answer. I just don't put the email here because bots will pick it up and SPAM the address...
@@AlienDrones thank you … ohh … didn’t see email link but saw link to FB page and sent request
The drone already has a serial # why would i write my name on it?
Can i fly over ocean going ships ?
That's a good question! I believe it would be considered a moving vehicle by the FAA so you you'd need the proper classed drone or a flights over moving vehicles waiver.
@@AlienDrones I have a DJI Mini 2 and a non monetized channel but I can just imagine Homeland Security having an issue with that footage, I have some cool ocean Tugboat shots.
Also would existing footage on RUclips be grandfathered ? or do people have to go through their old videos?
@@ExploringCabinsandMines There isn't any official "grandfathering" but the FAA won't be searching down your channel to check dates of any older videos. As long as you don't continue posting anything publicly that breaks the rules you'll be just fine...
under 249g not need to register recreational and part 107?
If following all the recreational rules, do not have to register under 249g. If part 107, have to register and add remote ID regardless of the weight, below 249g or not.
@@AlienDrones well,i rather register both if under 249g.it is better to be safe than sorry.
@@BarrettBivensFishing That is true, but keep in mind if you register for any reason, even if you don't have to, that you need remote ID installed too. That sucks to have to put a RID module on a sub 250 drone, there's not a lot of places to put it and the transmission signal is impeded a little and the battery is used up faster...
Do I need to have or get an operator ID and how can I get one even if for recreational use only?
What is an operator ID?
@@AlienDrones I used my drone this morning and checked my drone scanner app it shows my remote ID on the drone scanner app and on the bottom of it says no OPERATOR ID
@@jess1t632Are you flying in the US?
@@AlienDrones yes
@@jess1t632 No Operator ID is necessary in the US, this is a requirement in the EU. A lot of times I'll put a name in there (as I showed when I configured the module in this video ruclips.net/video/2aOY0ff5_9o/видео.html ) but the FAA does not require this. I showed in that vid the broadcast requirements of the rule as well in case you're interested...
Lol, can I fly for sadness? I identify sadness as fun.
Morning! Thanks for the video! I’ve been watching for awhile now and good reminder. Question…so I live at a spot where I can’t take off any drones due to a few restrictions. Do you have a video on how to request waivers so that I can fly at least 15 m at my house? Could I call the air traffic control to get the waiver to upload on my DJI?
Hello! It depends on the nature of what "can't take off due to flight restrictions" means. If it is restricted airspace you can not fly there. It is restricted. If it is controlled airspace and you are looking for a way to get an "authorization" to fly there (not a waiver), you can apply for LAANC approval with an app like "Aloft" and if it is possible (and the airport has LAANC) they you should be able to get an approval there. If the airport does not have LAANC, then you need to go to FAA's DroneZone site and request approval, and this can take up to 30 days, sometimes longer www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_flyers/authorization . Calling the control tower to get airspace approval is not a valid path anymore, so don't call them unless you are trying top be nice and notify them, but probably they will get annoyed (if you do reach them) so I'd shy away from calling in most situations. In addition, if by "can't take off" you mean the drone itself won't launch (mostly only DJI drones), then not only will you need the above authorizations, you will also need to unlock the drone, and there is some info on that here: tinyurl.com/3whfhp4f .
@@AlienDrones awesome! thank you for the detailed reply! wow! so, looking at this again (which I had last year) - I am screwed! lol...I cannot fly, as I'm in a restricted area and I tried for shits and giggles to see if I could get a LAANC approval and nope! this sucks...I don't understand why I can't fly 15 meters - that is not even close to the top of the tree lines and there is no way for a plane to go lower than the tree lines. I'm so mad...I have 2 DJI drones and can't fly them now. ugh..stupid!
@@drluketheduke1531 welcome to the club. Are you near a dod facility or next to a major airport? If it’s the drone itself that won’t take off then go to a drone hacking forum and flash the drone with a custom firmware for your model if available and disable the lockouts. Fly at your own risk…
Try to use the LAANC system to get permission to fly.
I fly my drone for fun
Does anyone really anymore? You have to stress over the FAA bullshit before you even take off so you don’t even get the chance to have fun. The FAA makes flying a drone out to be more dangerous than as if driving a car on a congested freeway while half dead on a fentanyl overdose..
Can you please explain all this to my 7 yr old.
Sure, no problem. Have them send questions...
Dont airplanes fly over people. People are everywhere. So are trees.
Good video. We wrote the lighting section of the FPV Freedom Coalition Safety Guidelines as we did because in the FAA's guidance, lighting was just that, guidance. Once we stipulated that guidance, it effectively became a rule because the Congressionally passed 44809 statue says recreational operators MUST follow the CBO Safety Guidelines. Dave Messina, Pres & CEO FPV Freedom Coalition.
Thanks! Indeed, it became a bit convoluted. I figure if there were any issues while night flying and the boot and suspenders approach of strobe/orientation lighting were used it will only be better for the pilot for sure.
The idea that we should have to comply with some club or organization's rules, as a matter of law, when we are not a member of that organization and not flying at one of their facilities is absolutely ridiculous. We should have to follow FAA rules and the FAA rules only. It's like a state saying you have to follow not only state & local driving laws but also the rules of the AAA motor club.
The reality is the purpose of regulations is to ban, the weight is ridiculous the max should have been at least 500g, likely more. I think the real purpose is to ban photography, the government seems at war with hand held cameras. Flying planes over 250 g isn't worth the trouble.
I wonder how much of this can be challenged now that the Supreme Court overturned the chevron deference
That's a great question. I'm surprised we haven't seen the lawsuits yet. My guess is that once it starts there will be an avalanche...
When I think about all of these drone laws it reminds me that I can buy an ultralight aircraft get in it and fly just about anywhere I want to go with no training and no license. Yeah let me Rush right over there to go fill out that 107 drone BS or whatever else crap they come up with
1. Fly only for recreational purposes (personal enjoyment).
2. Follow the safety guidelines of an FAA-recognized Community Based Organization (CBO).
3. Keep your drone within the visual line of sight or use a visual observer who is co-located (physically next to) and in direct communication with you.
4. Give way to and do not interfere with other aircraft.
5. Fly at or below FAA-authorized altitudes in controlled airspace (Class B, C, D, and surface Class E designated for an airport) only with prior FAA authorization by using LAANC or DroneZone.
6. Fly at or below 400 feet in Class G (uncontrolled) airspace.
7. Take The Recreational UAS Safety Test (TRUST) and carry proof of test passage when flying.
8. Have a current FAA registration, mark (PDF) your drones on the outside with the registration number, and carry proof of registration with you when flying.
Note: Beginning September 16, 2023, if your drone requires an FAA registration number it will also be required to broadcast Remote ID
9. Do not operate your drone in a manner that endangers the safety of the national airspace system.
Rule # 10 its not fun any more.
Ahh, rule #10. It's a confusing one for sure...
Thank you for making this video it has cleared many things up and when I want to buy a drone I can show my parents this so they know I don’t need a license to fly one but if I were to fly a custom built FPV drone that weigh about 450grams I wouldn’t sell any photos I’m all good right btw I’m 13 because I think if I did FPV it wouldn’t be in kind of sight because I have my goggles on but if i had someone like my brother watch it I would be good right? Thank you this video helped a lot the only thing that was confusing was the FPV part
No part 107 "license" necessary if just sharing with friends and family, but still need to follow the recreational rules shown here and take the TRUST test. It's free and easy, you can't fail and it really does give a lot of good information so you fly safe and have fun!
FAA dont play around, $20k fines, no joke!! Be sure you have all your documents, and stay under 400ft.
Thanks for clarifying that CBO requirement. I have my TRUST certificate, but I was always confused about that CBO requirement.
Glad I could help! 🤙
So it's the FAA who is sneaky WOW😂😂😂
We the People are only obligated to follow Laws, not. Rules or Regulations.
We have seen agencies like the EPA and ATF being shot down by the Supreme Court for acting outside their authority. These agencies have no Constitutional authority to exist let alone make Law.
It's not difficult to read Articles I and III to understand the authority of Congress and the Courts.
The "Rules" need to challenged as outside the Scope of the Law as passed by Congress.
Race Day Quads sued and lost. The FAA couldn't come up with a justification for the invasion of privacy and fell on the "National Security" claim in the end . Pretty weak move by the FAA suits if you ask me 🙄
I thought that FPV FC CBO guidelines required having a fire extinguisher, so I didn't fly my drone until I got one. 😂😂 Guess I didn't need it after all... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well, The way some people fly it's probably not a bad idea! 😅🔥🔥
Funny. We continue to be an all-volunteer organization advocating the FAA on your behalf. We also spent a year and a half working with Flite Test on a made-in-the USA Remote ID broadcast module. Dave Messina
The 9 "simple" rules are for Federal only, then there are State rules, then there are Local rules, even city rules, in fact the FAA/Fed rules are the least of my concerns. Even with recreational purposes, I can't post my video anywhere ... if I place it on RUclips even when it's NOT monetized, RUclips still runs ads and it's considered revenue (aka commercial) even if I'm not seeing any of the revenue. Finally my DJI Mini 4 Pro has a 7 mile range, I lose sight of my drone within just a 100 yards because it's tiny (see how the
Thanks for sharing! A quick clarification, if your flight was for fun only, you can post to RUclips even if RUclips itself monetizes it. RUclips would need to have whatever license is necessary to commercialize the content, not you as the originator (but honestly even that's a bit of a stretch). The state and local rules are additional to the FAA portion and can be a pain, but in some areas they can be non-existent as well which is why that was covered here, perhaps you didn't make it quite that far in the video.
@AlienDrones not according to the Face of the FAA the "drone guy" he has said many times on many live streams and Q&As at this point, basically if it has a camera on the drone the FAA considers it commercial. That is a huge part of the problem. The right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing at the FAA. No two people will ever give you the same answer. They are purposely making it as confusing and difficult as possible. They want as few people flying as they can get before they launch UTM.
@@bigdatapimp Sorry, having a camera on the drone does not make it commercial by default in the US. This is simply not the case. (I think I read somewhere that this might be a definition in Europe somewhere). I have talked with Kevin "the drone guy" many times and he has been fairly consistent, to the extent you can be with ambiguous rules. (Here's just one place where he mentions recreational taking pictures and video ruclips.net/video/R_4B5c61QU8/видео.htmlsi=4zKONZ7_ov72Guoj&t=703 ). I agree that different people say different things, and I've experienced this myself. To be fair though, drone rules have changed and evolved over time since this is a relatively new industry, and the FAA has not done a great job of being clear and removing ambiguity and that is certainly a failing. I do try hard to add clarity and simplify things on this channel and most of my content is backed up by hours of emails and phone calls to the FAA and other industry professionals before anything is published. One of the problems is that because things have been evolving, and RUclips and the internet in general is static (with regard to past content), there can be information out there which was correct at the time but now is no longer valid. So we have a lot of work as consumers to figure it out which is why I always recommend doing your own due diligence...
@@bigdatapimp Yep, exactly and there is no "Justice" here. One huge point is VLOS ... that alone makes any flight (be it 107 or recreational) illegal. When is the last time you flew your drone with VLOS? And the smaller the drones the sooner VLOS is lost. Nobody seems to really want to talk about VLOS and go on some rant about "well you don't need to look at it all the time" ... that's NOT what VLOS means. So unless we all operate our drones within 100 yards, then we've violated Federal rules and the cops know that and Feds know that and FAA know that. Remote ID is just a big red "come fine me" signal.
I really wished you would have put recreational in the title!!
Is there still not just one trusty app that we can use to get all the information/approval we need to fly from one source? What are the most trusted apps used these days?
Hell no. The planet would explode if something simple and straightforward came out.
@@0utcast lol, right!
Great thumbnail but if you need a strobe to fly at night then your 249g drone is now MORE than 249g and it would need to be registered.
True, sometimes. I have a mini that is 237g and the light is ~10g...
i take off from USA Land aka: Native American Reservation lot of freaking Air Space 🛸
Would love it if you were the first to address the issue that nobody is talking about. If you fly under the recreational exception and you break one the 9 simple rules, your flight could lose the ability to claim the exemption and at that time, you would be subject to all of part 107. Meaning you are likely flying without a certificate, etc. Does this make sense? I understand this is not automatically triggered but it could be applicable and subject you to huge fines because as an intended recreational pilot there are a lot of part 107 rules that you don't comply with. The popular reply is the FAA would never do this but but they *can*, right? I think recreational pilots need some sort of safeguard or assurance that if you make a mistake unintentionally, you won't be thrown into the higher requirements. If forget to bring my TRUST, I could be considered a commercial pilot?
I've actually discussed this with the FAA and the message is this: The FAA (or the local LEO) isn't wandering around looking for someone who forgot to bring their TRUST certificate with them or even flying 402'. The important takeaway is that if you are genuinely trying to follow the rules and something happens or if you miss something (though technically that flight would revert to part 107) the FAA will simply work with the pilot to educate so they understand the rules better and that will be that. The real problem comes in when there are repeat offenders that are truly creating a safety problem, like flying down runways or chasing manned aircraft across the sky, then all the rules, defaulting to part 107 and penalties if needed will become a possibility. You really have to be "that guy" that we all read about and think to ourselves "man, that was stupid" to get real penalties levied from the FAA. Being "educated" may be scary or even humiliating, but so far that's the default posture from the FAA so you learn from the experience and "don't do that again"... hope this helps.
So basically, if you're trying to just have fun. You're good but if you are intentionally breaking rules then they're gonna make an example of you.
That the jist?
If these rules existed when I was a kid I never would have got into RC aviation. If I never would have gotten into RC aviation, I never would have become a licensed pilot. These rules are contributing to the death of aviation.
Indeed, there are a lot of things that would be different if things back when were like they are now. I walked to the store or rode my bike by myself 2-3 miles all the time, from the time I was 7 or 8 years old. As long as I was home by suppertime I was good. Now my parents would be in jail and I would be directed to a safe space with a therapy dog. Common sense and personal responsibility, where did you go?
wanna fly for fun??
Buy a drone
Get a license, maybe 2 if you want to play and work
Register it
Insure it
Get Remote ID- unless flying a FRIA
Download a bunch of apps for clearance
Hope you aren't anywhere near a no fly zone
find a FRIA
Pay them
Pay AMA
Flying FPV?? You need a buddy
Have fun, because if you don't follow the rules, you're gonna stack felonies like a Big Mac
Rules? 😂 couldnt care less.
fpv = los