The amount of people hes trained and they arent dead. Your playing with powerful drugs and pushing the envelope to keep up with freaks. It's not on him, it's on the bodybuilder. The only time you can point the finger is Ronnie, anything with diuretics is dangerous.
I agree. And the words he use, body language everything... I know Shawn also can have a hidden agenda from time to time, but for this topic he is spot on.
I knew he was lying when he said one of his 3 criterias before working with an athlete is "a hard worker", then he said Shawn didn't match any of that. You don't get 1st runner up against Dorian in the 90s by being lazy, get this guy outta here!!
You are absolutely correct! Shawn Ray was a top athlete who displayed excellent shape, size, and condition for many years. It is impossible to stay so competitive for so many years if he wasn’t a hard worker.
I have been following Shaun even before I begin competing as a teenager in 1996! The guy simply left no stones unturned pertaining to doing whatever what was necessary in order to win a show "I call BS"
Chad Nicholls is a joke , Sean makes 2 claims , firstly that Chad Nicholls offered to work with him and secondly that Chad was instrumental in the deaths of many bodybuilders. Chad realizes that he has no possible way to defend the piles of dead bodybuilders that he is responsible for so he resorts to denying that he ever offered to ever work with Sean . Glad we cleared up the claim that was actually important Chad
@5DollarShake listen to what you are saying. There is no way to prove Chad is responsible for their deaths. If so he would be in jail. Hardcore bodybuilding is extremely tough on the body I think we can agree on that. No one was putting a gun to anyone's head to do anything. Grown adults making choices.
Did you guys happen to miss the part that guys like attorneys and judges look at to sort out peoples claims so they dont get swept up in who they like more personally or to prevent them from judging based on perception of character? The whole timeline that Chad explains obliterates Shawns otherwise believeable claim. And he also provides a witness that has information that Shawn was not approached but rather was denied service. And its a friend of Shawns. Thats a golden witness and if those two things dont dispel in your mind the obvious attempt to slander by Shawn expect to be taken advantage of in life because you are gullible
@@tonyford7726 Dallas McCarver, RIP, was said to have started using peds at age 13 before he passed. His autopsy and blood panel were astounding. His test level was at 40times the high threshold. He was using 4-6 grams of gear per week! Thats not a bad trainer. Thats 15 years of serious abuse.
@@mikejones9906 you are an idiot and are relating 2 very different things. Big difference between the ceo of mcdonalds and your personal nutritionist. Yes ofcourse they know the risks im not saying its his fault they died. It is however extremely slimey to not goto the funeral of someone you worked very closely with. Especially when its a tragic and untimely deaths like they had
@@mikejones9906 They were under his system but even if it had nothing to do with that, not going to any of their funerals looks really bad. Looks guilty if nothing else.
Muhammad Ali said, "Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer.” Chad Nicholls whould have been better off not saying anyting at all. Now everything Shawn Ray said about this slimy guy is validated.
Do you really think Chad would have such a strict criteria for working with top level bodybuilders after only just starting a new coaching business? Especially getting to work with the 2nd best bodybuilder on the planet?
You three please explain where you got your degrees in psychology so these anecdotal ideas you have about being experts on lies have some weight. People will claim to have information on subjects they dont know jack shit about when they are lying. That is a fact! And speech patterns are cultural and regional so youre pouring diarrhea out of your mouth and asking us to believe it. Thats what we call a lie. Since y'all are experts whats the number 1 way to tell if someone is lying? And tell us about it in this 6 min clip and how it relates. Let me go get the popcorn...brb
I don’t really care whether Nichols or Ray’s camp initiated the conversation about working together. I’m interested in learning the answers to the following questions: 1. What was his involvement with those five bodybuilders that died? 2. Did he go to their funerals? 3. Have other bodybuilders who worked with Nichols end up with damaged kidneys?
My grandfather told me: “When you’re EXPLAINING- you’re LOSING!!!” Chad talked all around the things Shawn says....didn’t speak on the deaths or not going to funerals did he? Lol
you people really need to drop the not going to funerals argument people go to funerals for friends and family members you don't go to funerals for people that you just had a business relationship with, also you go to funerals for the living not the dead, if you don't know their family you do not have to go to the funeral
His first response in this video, I shit you not: "So there's a couple things, it depends where you want me to start, we can start from the beginning. the most.. i don't know if i wanna say funny, because i don't think any of its funny, but the most interesting part of it and it basically outlines basically his direction of the whole thing, is right from the get-go" What an incoherent jumbled mess of a thought.
He is full of shit and talking in that way is a way of deflecting. He is tapping into the creative part of the brain and making a more general response rather than a specific denial.
When he says at 4:24 that he demands from athlete to do exactly what he orders him to do and he's only 28 yrs old,non medical professional then that's all I need to hear from him. Complicit as hell.
Danced around the meat of the question, simply avoided it tbh. Never addressed the health issues people under his guidance have, had, or succumbed to. The one thing he did admit 'athletes must be willing to do exactly as I say do'... so you might as well stick a fork in it. Loved how he remembered verbatim a conversation from 23 years ago and threw shade about the Lambo. Obviously you lined that up as the promoter, yet you say you weren't even sure he was there. So we just write checks now without either a contract, or confirmation said athlete will attend or be penalized? Hell, I'll take one of those any day. Dudes lying through his tooth (singular).
@@franciscoantao3794 I do whatever I have to to go to someones funeral if I knew them. I remember looking around at my dad's Funeral and seeing all of my childhood friends and their parents. A lot of them were in line at the wake too. I sat there looking at all of them thinking they will never know what that meant to me. Sounds cheesy but my point is it's a respectable thing to do. Show up. Give a few minutes of your time
if he had nothing but a business relationship with them, he was not obligated to go to their funerals doctors do not go to funerals of their dead patients funerals are for the living, if you are not acquainted at all with the living family members you do not have to go to the funeral
@mikeg82 You are right he did not have to go to any of the funerals. But if you listen to the video, he said one of his criteria was chemistry. If those are really his standards he obviously clicked and liked the bodybuilders, and most likely had a friendship with. So why wouldn't he go to any of the funerals?
Must've had him on speed dial under Shawn's number
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something really doesn't add up tho. Shawn who is known to have never worked with such bodybuilding Gurus like Chad and in return always prepped himself with his own knowledge all of a sudden decided to ask Chad's help who, in his own words, only worked with athletes for 1 year at that point? So you are 28/29, only have 1 year of experience in the game, close to 0 achievements in that 1 year and your argument is that a multi runner up mr olympia was seeking YOUR help?
*plays Shawn Ray's clip* "I guest posed, had dinner, he asked if I needed help. I said no." Nichols: This is a complete lie. Absolutely a lie. Yes he did guest pose. Yes we did have dinner. 🤔
That's what jumped out at me. Started off by saying,'complete lie' and then validate 95% of it in the next breadth...how does 'complete lie' fit here then. I guess we know who the lier is
Im pretty sure nobody was disputing the dinner and guest posing. We all fucking know the posing happened its on film. You girls in you ugg boots are petty as fuck. You ignored the shit that mattered. Thats what we call ignorant. Or petty as you focused on minutiae .
cute how he was quick to shade Ray for driving someone's Lamborghini, however failed to address the funeral accusations 🤦🏽♂️ #WeDontBelieveYou #YouNeedMorePeople
@@MayorOfBodybuildingTV He's doing great now except for a few hernia surgeries during his bodybuilding days. He's slimmer and sounds so healthier than before. I made that comment regarding Chad saying that both are gone.
I don't know if it was on Chad's orders or because Paul was stupid, but he got cramps in every major contest he did because he used too many diuretics. He never had a good physical condition to pose.
Shawn is one the most consistent and most aesthetic bodybuilder that ever lived and he always stepped on stage on point and well conditioned, why the hell would he beg to work with you . Well good thing he never did because he’s alive ,well and healthy unlike most of the athletes you worked with
Notice, when Patrick asked Shawn Ray questions, he gave direct answers. But Nicholls; he's giving round-about unrelated statements to Patrick's questions.
Chad talks about Boyer Coe. Shawn Ray shows his conversation with Boyer about Chad's claims. Shawn Ray has always been a cocky, arrogant SOB. But he has never sugarcoated his opinions or not been able to back up his talk.
I only care if he interview bodybuilders, Ray was great, but it was fair to get the version of Chad. I'm still waiting for you to talk about those dead boys and their drug and diuretic protocols. Also, Yates, Ronnie and Flex were great interviews.
Seems like pretty much everyone knows that Shawn's interview took the W...and sorry, Mr Chad will hold the L on this segment. He seems like he has blood on his hands.
He didn't answer the body builders deaths .He didn't answer why he didn't go to any funerals. He didn't answer anything. He just mumbled about why shawn is a bad guy and his interactions with shawn. Shawn "The Mouth" Ray Johnson (had to put Johnson cause it sounds cooler) was saying made facts. Nothing addressed sorry chad.
Pro Bodybuilders need to do 3 things to build a name in the business: They need to be very disciplined in their diet, they need to take plenty of supplements/steroids, and they need to bust their ass in the gym, for years When you say Shawn Ray, a legend before you came along, doesn't work hard, you lose all credibility
Shawn ray never won anything major because every year his body looked the same. He never grew in size or became freaky. He progressed to a point he believed was the ideal body type and stayed there.
There is a huge question! According to chad nichols talks,he aproaches three reseons why he was not intrerested in working with shawn that all of them i mean all of them are contradictory! 1.if u thaught tha shawn ray is not a hard worker athlete because of his size or whatever u believe in how he became second beside dorian and why u would interested in having dinner with him? If ur career was not started openly and ur fame was not world wided why shawn ray should have gone and had dinner with u? 2.how you understood that shawn ray would not comply ur protocoles or he did not agree them? Is not it because he did thought that he did not need to? No lazy bodybuilder became second in mr olympia 3.if you claim that after your athlete success in mr olympia or night of champs shawn changed his minds and reacted to work with you by rest of your common friend and then you denied why you insist to beat shawn ray? There is no doubth that shawn ray wanted to be a mr olympia thats because in 2001 he critisized the judges or wanted blood test but for sure he did believe too that whatever is connected to chad nicholls in competition have smells of cheating.
He overused the word “Basically” too much in the first few minutes. He looked away from Patrick when asked certain questions. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up.
I don't get any interest to hear their "relation problems". Chad is a killer. Shawn Ray (I dislike him) is right. An in fact, Chad didn't spent a word about this topic. He killed people.
Been waiting for this since it was advertised!! 21 seconds in ans I'm pumped !! Thanks Valuetainment for not only covering bodybuilding. But knowing the fan's would wanna hear Chad's opinion. Thanks again David .
He is accused of being resposible for five dead athleats and Ronnie almost dying. Nontheless he only talks about having worked with Shawn and that therefore Shawn is a liar. So the deaths are facts which he doesn't deny. Shouldn't there be investigations, if i imagine that five football players etc. would die under the watch of the same coach there would be questions raised.
1:49 Did he say "that was litterally the first time I'd talken to him"? If so, wow, this guy takes not only bodybuilder but also the English language to a whole new level of degradation
When I heard Shawn Ray's account of Chad Nicholls, I thought Chad was guilty. After listening to Chad, now I'm convinced he's guilty.
This man is "toxic"
Exactly now I am speechless, enough said. He didn’t want to work Shawn yeah, right lol 😂
Me too.
Lol exactly
😂😂😂😂
Hm he didnt talk about deaths.
Luna Pax seems like there will be more. Ends when another question is coming
This wasn't the full interview
Its 6 minutes long...
who cares people die everyday plus what is he gonna say?
The amount of people hes trained and they arent dead. Your playing with powerful drugs and pushing the envelope to keep up with freaks. It's not on him, it's on the bodybuilder. The only time you can point the finger is Ronnie, anything with diuretics is dangerous.
Did he honestly just say Shawn was not a hard working bodybuilder? I personally believe Shawn's version over Chad's...
100% I believe Shawn Facts are facts the list of dead and damaged bodybuilders who worked with Chad is undeniable. Can't all be bad luck.
Shawn's the crybaby of bodybuilding
@@mikep3322 & u r son of a tuls (read it backwards)
This guy seems like a shady character.
Andres Orozco Bodybuilding can be shady territory in some places
The entire bodybuilding industry is somewhat shady my guy :)
What do you expect? It's always been a closeted homosexual sport, build on the money of rich schmoes and g4p
Andres Orozco I just feel like both these guys are shady so who knows!
I agree. And the words he use, body language everything... I know Shawn also can have a hidden agenda from time to time, but for this topic he is spot on.
I knew he was lying when he said one of his 3 criterias before working with an athlete is "a hard worker", then he said Shawn didn't match any of that. You don't get 1st runner up against Dorian in the 90s by being lazy, get this guy outta here!!
thought the same thing. what aload of BS
You are absolutely correct! Shawn Ray was a top athlete who displayed excellent shape, size, and condition for many years. It is impossible to stay so competitive for so many years if he wasn’t a hard worker.
I have been following Shaun even before I begin competing as a teenager in 1996! The guy simply left no stones unturned pertaining to doing whatever what was necessary in order to win a show "I call BS"
Spot on!
100% agreed
Everything else he said MAY be believable but this - a ZEEERO chance
Chad Nicholls is a joke , Sean makes 2 claims , firstly that Chad Nicholls offered to work with him and secondly that Chad was instrumental in the deaths of many bodybuilders. Chad realizes that he has no possible way to defend the piles of dead bodybuilders that he is responsible for so he resorts to denying that he ever offered to ever work with Sean . Glad we cleared up the claim that was actually important Chad
Maybe there's a part 2 to this?
@5DollarShake listen to what you are saying. There is no way to prove Chad is responsible for their deaths. If so he would be in jail. Hardcore bodybuilding is extremely tough on the body I think we can agree on that. No one was putting a gun to anyone's head to do anything. Grown adults making choices.
exactly.
Did you guys happen to miss the part that guys like attorneys and judges look at to sort out peoples claims so they dont get swept up in who they like more personally or to prevent them from judging based on perception of character? The whole timeline that Chad explains obliterates Shawns otherwise believeable claim. And he also provides a witness that has information that Shawn was not approached but rather was denied service. And its a friend of Shawns. Thats a golden witness and if those two things dont dispel in your mind the obvious attempt to slander by Shawn expect to be taken advantage of in life because you are gullible
@@tonyford7726 Dallas McCarver, RIP, was said to have started using peds at age 13 before he passed. His autopsy and blood panel were astounding. His test level was at 40times the high threshold. He was using 4-6 grams of gear per week! Thats not a bad trainer. Thats 15 years of serious abuse.
He doesnt even bring up for a second why he didnt show up to those funerals..
@@mikejones9906 you are an idiot and are relating 2 very different things. Big difference between the ceo of mcdonalds and your personal nutritionist. Yes ofcourse they know the risks im not saying its his fault they died. It is however extremely slimey to not goto the funeral of someone you worked very closely with. Especially when its a tragic and untimely deaths like they had
@@mikejones9906 They were under his system but even if it had nothing to do with that, not going to any of their funerals looks really bad. Looks guilty if nothing else.
Mike Jones far from the same thing.
@@mikejones9906 never called him a murderer shut up
Simple why would he want to rub it in and show up when he’s got blood on his hands
My BS-o-meter is off the charts with this dude.
My BroScience meter is on fire too man.
Muhammad Ali said, "Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer.” Chad Nicholls whould have been better off not saying anyting at all. Now everything Shawn Ray said about this slimy guy is validated.
I agree. In fact, this whole interview with him looks kinda out of place, except if their intention from the beginning was to expose him.
@@SirDeviless That is a great theory. I wonder . . .
He did himself a major disservice by coming on Valuetainment, he sounds so full of bullshit.
I think anyone with good intuition can feel the dishonesty here. This has been going on for years and now we hear this story?
Do you really think Chad would have such a strict criteria for working with top level bodybuilders after only just starting a new coaching business? Especially getting to work with the 2nd best bodybuilder on the planet?
Shawn Ray judged to not be a hard worker? seriously? at that point of the interview i'm with Shawn
Exactly the dude just came in 2nd place twice in the Mr Olympia and you think he doesn't work hard. GTFOH
He was training Mrs Olympia, his wife. Essentially the best bodybuilder on the planet, next to the Mr O. He didn't need shawn for notoriety
@@Hittdogg17 Since when is Mrs.Olympia the second best bodybuilder in the World next to the Mr. Olympia
Homegrown Health nobody knows who she is bro. Everyone knows who Shawn Ray is tho.
When people lie they use words like literally and basically every other word. He could have relayed the same info in about 2 sentences
You got it....and the amount of times says ‘this is interesting’. Can’t give a straightforward explanation
EXACTLY what i was thinking!
You three please explain where you got your degrees in psychology so these anecdotal ideas you have about being experts on lies have some weight. People will claim to have information on subjects they dont know jack shit about when they are lying. That is a fact! And speech patterns are cultural and regional so youre pouring diarrhea out of your mouth and asking us to believe it. Thats what we call a lie. Since y'all are experts whats the number 1 way to tell if someone is lying? And tell us about it in this 6 min clip and how it relates. Let me go get the popcorn...brb
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BigTyronie I agree. Everyone is a human lie-detector now.
Sir , you dance around in your responses.
I don’t really care whether Nichols or Ray’s camp initiated the conversation about working together. I’m interested in learning the answers to the following questions:
1. What was his involvement with those five bodybuilders that died?
2. Did he go to their funerals?
3. Have other bodybuilders who worked with Nichols end up with damaged kidneys?
Yeah, Patrick should've stressed on these questions
Shawn must be the most consistent bodybuilder of 90's and this guy comes and say Shawn wasn't hardworking 😂! We believe you Chad 😤
This guy's nose keeps growing by the minute.
Must be from the GH he's got in his pockets
My grandfather told me: “When you’re EXPLAINING- you’re LOSING!!!” Chad talked all around the things Shawn says....didn’t speak on the deaths or not going to funerals did he? Lol
you people really need to drop the not going to funerals argument
people go to funerals for friends and family members
you don't go to funerals for people that you just had a business relationship with, also you go to funerals for the living not the dead, if you don't know their family you do not have to go to the funeral
@@MikeG82 load of shit lol.
@@MikeG82 dumbest comment ever seen
@@ssteacup your doctor will not go to your funeral, your coworkers unless they were friends will not go to your funeral, truth hurts
@@faizanshaikh-vs5sh than that makes you the dumbest youtuber ever seen LOL
Chad has lots of blood on his hands.
Shawn Ray keeps bodybuilding relevant, even after retirement.
True
Being a gossip..
Bodybuilding keeps Shawn ray relevant.
I'll be seeing you guys on Nick's Strength and Power
so true 😂👌
Yep 😂
I'll be seeing you guys on kenny ko😛
For the trillionth time: it's "Dick's Click and Bait". Get it right!
@@elementsoflife000 thought you nailed it 😂👌
He’s wearing a cap indoors. He’s also wearing it the wrong way around. I’m gonna have to go with Shawn on this one.
Boom
Where’s tony soprano when you need him
@@CarianneRHixson brilliant
His first response in this video, I shit you not:
"So there's a couple things, it depends where you want me to start, we can start from the beginning. the most.. i don't know if i wanna say funny, because i don't think any of its funny, but the most interesting part of it and it basically outlines basically his direction of the whole thing, is right from the get-go"
What an incoherent jumbled mess of a thought.
He is full of shit and talking in that way is a way of deflecting. He is tapping into the creative part of the brain and making a more general response rather than a specific denial.
It's just words thrown together
hahahahahaha
Lol brain busy trying to create bullshit
This is just like a criminal trying to defend himself
Basically now we have proof that Shawn is 100% right lol
When he says at 4:24 that he demands from athlete to do exactly what he orders him to do and he's only 28 yrs old,non medical professional then that's all I need to hear from him.
Complicit as hell.
Facts. "DO EXACTLY AS I SAY..." lol
The look on Patrick’s face throughout this interview you know he doesn’t believe a word Chad says.
Danced around the meat of the question, simply avoided it tbh. Never addressed the health issues people under his guidance have, had, or succumbed to. The one thing he did admit 'athletes must be willing to do exactly as I say do'... so you might as well stick a fork in it. Loved how he remembered verbatim a conversation from 23 years ago and threw shade about the Lambo. Obviously you lined that up as the promoter, yet you say you weren't even sure he was there. So we just write checks now without either a contract, or confirmation said athlete will attend or be penalized? Hell, I'll take one of those any day.
Dudes lying through his tooth (singular).
Look at his face when he is watching the Shawn Ray bite. He's like *Damn, this dude knows everything*
Nishant Thakur Shawn Ray is a bodybuilding genius.
Shawn Ray is so honest
Dude anime music bodybuilding sportscience even cod contents too...dude you got good taste.
when someone says ''literally'' that many times, he is probably lying
he didnt mention the funerals tho
BOXING STONER I do, stfu
Maybe the families of the deceased...
@@franciscoantao3794 I do whatever I have to to go to someones funeral if I knew them. I remember looking around at my dad's Funeral and seeing all of my childhood friends and their parents. A lot of them were in line at the wake too. I sat there looking at all of them thinking they will never know what that meant to me. Sounds cheesy but my point is it's a respectable thing to do. Show up. Give a few minutes of your time
if he had nothing but a business relationship with them, he was not obligated to go to their funerals
doctors do not go to funerals of their dead patients
funerals are for the living, if you are not acquainted at all with the living family members you do not have to go to the funeral
@mikeg82
You are right he did not have to go to any of the funerals. But if you listen to the video, he said one of his criteria was chemistry. If those are really his standards he obviously clicked and liked the bodybuilders, and most likely had a friendship with. So why wouldn't he go to any of the funerals?
That guy is freaking 🤥lying through his teeth 🦷
Damn, you got him on fast.
This was the fastest interview turn around I've ever seen
Must've had him on speed dial under Shawn's number
something really doesn't add up tho. Shawn who is known to have never worked with such bodybuilding Gurus like Chad and in return always prepped himself with his own knowledge all of a sudden decided to ask Chad's help who, in his own words, only worked with athletes for 1 year at that point? So you are 28/29, only have 1 year of experience in the game, close to 0 achievements in that 1 year and your argument is that a multi runner up mr olympia was seeking YOUR help?
This sound logic
There still was NO INTERACTION....Shawn NEVER came to Chad, as Shawn has stated....Boyer asked about it. I am siding with Shawn Ray.
This guy doesn’t even go into much detail, I’ll take Shawns word over his
You still killed bodybuilders smh 🤦♂️
When people start dying it's serious.
agreed!
Shawn seems more credible.
Notice how instead of talking about the athletes that died he prioritized showing off the results of the people he trained.
Thats a big word salad and a limp one at that too.
Deflection ✔
Avoidance ✔
Leading "right, right!?" ✔
Contradiction ✔
Wow. That was ugly.
*plays Shawn Ray's clip*
"I guest posed, had dinner, he asked if I needed help. I said no."
Nichols: This is a complete lie. Absolutely a lie. Yes he did guest pose. Yes we did have dinner. 🤔
That's what jumped out at me. Started off by saying,'complete lie' and then validate 95% of it in the next breadth...how does 'complete lie' fit here then. I guess we know who the lier is
Im pretty sure nobody was disputing the dinner and guest posing. We all fucking know the posing happened its on film. You girls in you ugg boots are petty as fuck. You ignored the shit that mattered. Thats what we call ignorant. Or petty as you focused on minutiae .
Get Shawn & Chad in an interview together.
I think this would be more brutal than a dog fight.
Hahhaha
Shawn would verbally destroy him
cute how he was quick to shade Ray for driving someone's Lamborghini, however failed to address the funeral accusations 🤦🏽♂️ #WeDontBelieveYou #YouNeedMorePeople
deli_12play Shawn later bought Lambo, he was only Test Driving it from a dealer in Arkansas so it wasn’t just a guy driving a car for the weekend.
Never talks about the bodies in his wake or never showing up to funerals. Easy to see what is important to him.
definitely would take Shawn's word over this guy.
Bro Paul Dillett is alive and well. He's fitter than ever lol.
Paul did not make the night show at the 98Olympia. He was taken to the hospital.
@@MayorOfBodybuildingTV He's doing great now except for a few hernia surgeries during his bodybuilding days. He's slimmer and sounds so healthier than before. I made that comment regarding Chad saying that both are gone.
I don't know if it was on Chad's orders or because Paul was stupid, but he got cramps in every major contest he did because he used too many diuretics. He never had a good physical condition to pose.
@@betiona1507 lol he couldnt pose worth a shit, its a damn shame!
Yes, patetyc competitor
Shawn is one the most consistent and most aesthetic bodybuilder that ever lived and he always stepped on stage on point and well conditioned, why the hell would he beg to work with you . Well good thing he never did because he’s alive ,well and healthy unlike most of the athletes you worked with
Why does Chad have a Badger on his chin.
Raphael Dawkins Combat Radio nice lol
Raphael Dawkins Combat Radio it's a hanging chad
Notice, when Patrick asked Shawn Ray questions, he gave direct answers. But Nicholls; he's giving round-about unrelated statements to Patrick's questions.
Everyone from the Inner Circle of bodybuilding in the 90's and beyond knows that Chad was a knowledgeable yet dangerous coach. Nothing new here.
chad nichols doesn't do interviews but shawn ray made him do it hhhh that's freaking awesome
Chad talks about Boyer Coe. Shawn Ray shows his conversation with Boyer about Chad's claims. Shawn Ray has always been a cocky, arrogant SOB. But he has never sugarcoated his opinions or not been able to back up his talk.
C'mon Pat. Drama free is best.
Q. What do you get if you sit under a cox
A. A Pat on the head
Bro I completely agree with you, all this bodybuilding crap and there's drama now starting up this channel is becoming like The View
Us BB fans want this story
Drama free is boring
everyone has the right to reply, chad nichols probably requested the interview so its not like patrick can turn him down
Valuetainment has become a hub for the Bodybuilding world.
Before that, I didn't know what to believe but now it's obvious that Shawn Ray told the truth.
Shawn said straight facts and this guy don't even talk about it.
Say what you want about Shawn Ray. But he says the truth and exactly on point and says what he feels
Shawn Ray already said that he guest posed for you and then went out to dinner. He's talking as if Shawn didn't say that already.
You cant get away from Dallas controversy
Here we go...
*Clashes make headlines*
Oh yes, this is clear, this guy is all about money.
I only care if he interview bodybuilders, Ray was great, but it was fair to get the version of Chad. I'm still waiting for you to talk about those dead boys and their drug and diuretic protocols.
Also, Yates, Ronnie and Flex were great interviews.
Eh, something seems majorly off with him. I call BS that if Shawn “wanted” to work with him, he’d turn him down.
3 reasons why I don't believe anything this guy says:
1) He's wearing a baseball cap backwards
2) His name is Chad
3) His lips are moving
Interviewer facial expressions trying to follow Chads bullshit!! Lmao
Why this man is not behind bars ? he has real blood on his hands ..!
I love how we all love Shawn Ray now but in 2016 we couldn’t stand him lol
Seems like pretty much everyone knows that Shawn's interview took the W...and sorry, Mr Chad will hold the L on this segment. He seems like he has blood on his hands.
Chad is looking up and to the left when he talks. He going to the creative part of his brain. Meaning he is lying!
He IS lying but this looking to the left nonsense is exactly that....
@@Webzterr look it up yourself. When your eyes go up and to the left. It means you are thinking of something creative to say. Scientific fact.
He did an interview with king Jamal I n Kamari asked him when did he feel confident n his programs with the guys, n he said 96 ..
He's a liar he asked shawn to work with him because he was trying to get clients he's full of crap
I believe shawn even more now
How about the dead bodybuilders? I kinda go with Shawn on this one.
I dont take shawn ray as a liar at all... im just not buyin what chad Nichols is saying. Shawn ray had a great work ethic
He was nodding his head in agreement while listening to what Shawn said. Says it all really!
Say what you want about Shawn ray. No one can ever accuse him of being a liar. Chad, did you or did you not attend your clients funeral? Smh.
This guy would break a lie detector test
He didn't answer the body builders deaths .He didn't answer why he didn't go to any funerals. He didn't answer anything. He just mumbled about why shawn is a bad guy and his interactions with shawn. Shawn "The Mouth" Ray Johnson (had to put Johnson cause it sounds cooler) was saying made facts. Nothing addressed sorry chad.
He mentioned nothing about the men who died under his guidance
I’m not that fond of Shawn but I agree with him. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he worked his ass off. Anyone second to Dorian should be proud
Shawn ray is right 👉
Shawn is right
When he keeps saying “work with people” he basically means writing out their drug protocol?
And he alludes to drugs as "nutrition."
Pro Bodybuilders need to do 3 things to build a name in the business:
They need to be very disciplined in their diet, they need to take plenty of supplements/steroids, and they need to bust their ass in the gym, for years
When you say Shawn Ray, a legend before you came along, doesn't work hard, you lose all credibility
The Future Is Here Bingo 😂
Oh boy! This is gonna get good! When will the whole interview be out?!?!
Shawn ray never won anything major because every year his body looked the same. He never grew in size or became freaky. He progressed to a point he believed was the ideal body type and stayed there.
He hasn't done himself any favors here...basically backs up everything Shawn said through his hesitations and mumbles.
There is a huge question!
According to chad nichols talks,he aproaches three reseons why he was not intrerested in working with shawn that all of them i mean all of them are contradictory!
1.if u thaught tha shawn ray is not a hard worker athlete because of his size or whatever u believe in how he became second beside dorian and why u would interested in having dinner with him? If ur career was not started openly and ur fame was not world wided why shawn ray should have gone and had dinner with u?
2.how you understood that shawn ray would not comply ur protocoles or he did not agree them? Is not it because he did thought that he did not need to? No lazy bodybuilder became second in mr olympia
3.if you claim that after your athlete success in mr olympia or night of champs shawn changed his minds and reacted to work with you by rest of your common friend and then you denied why you insist to beat shawn ray?
There is no doubth that shawn ray wanted to be a mr olympia thats because in 2001 he critisized the judges or wanted blood test but for sure he did believe too that whatever is connected to chad nicholls in competition have smells of cheating.
Notice Chad ignored them comments on all the people who died.
He overused the word “Basically” too much in the first few minutes. He looked away from Patrick when asked certain questions. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up.
I don't get any interest to hear their "relation problems".
Chad is a killer. Shawn Ray (I dislike him) is right. An in fact, Chad didn't spent a word about this topic.
He killed people.
Been waiting for this since it was advertised!! 21 seconds in ans I'm pumped !! Thanks Valuetainment for not only covering bodybuilding. But knowing the fan's would wanna hear Chad's opinion. Thanks again David .
Overgrown bleached soulpatch....I'm with Shawn 100%
Listening to this guy talk, reminds me of why defence lawyers prefer that the defendant not take the stand.
He is accused of being resposible for five dead athleats and Ronnie almost dying. Nontheless he only talks about having worked with Shawn and that therefore Shawn is a liar. So the deaths are facts which he doesn't deny. Shouldn't there be investigations, if i imagine that five football players etc. would die under the watch of the same coach there would be questions raised.
grown men make the decision to follow chads advice, no crime against that
Release this asap! This is another EPIC interview! Gotta love this channel
Lol, nice story Chad, but I don't believe you, hahaha.
I believe Shawn on this guy.
1:49 Did he say "that was litterally the first time I'd talken to him"? If so, wow, this guy takes not only bodybuilder but also the English language to a whole new level of degradation
Lots of 🔥 out here
Turning up to "defend" yourself dressed like a meat head, puts you on the back foot from the get go.
Ha ha Body building divas. Stay tuned for next week.