The Lost Potential of Lost Izalith

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @LavenderRex7705
    @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +233

    What a nightmare... Have a great day!
    Edit: I made a typo at the end. It should say "loud music" not "load music." I am sorry.

    • @QuantumTelephone
      @QuantumTelephone 7 месяцев назад +10

      Better than most youtube apologies

    • @wormydragon
      @wormydragon 7 месяцев назад +7

      load music

    • @thabos8
      @thabos8 6 месяцев назад +2

      Data miners found out lost Izalith was supposed to be a swamp, hence the tree branches in the lava.
      As for the boss fight, use a shield, the sweeping arms can be blocked
      Laurentius goes hollow because he can't find quelana, his pyromancy flame is too weak.
      Siegmeyer is an incredibly strong character, stat wise but he doesn't plan ahead and gives up at the first sign of trouble. He gives up when he sees the gate at sence fortress, he gives up at Anor Londo, he gives up in the swamp because he didn't pack enough moss and finaly gives up at ash lake because he didn't pack any homeward bones. And it is our fault! He doesn't prepare for the task ahead, and tries to wing it, gets into trouble and we the player bail him out everytime, making him feel inadiquate. If we left him allone at sence fortress or any other point, he would have been forced to figure things out for himself or forced to accept teamwork. The weird thing is, he never helps us as a summon, even Lautrec is more usefull to the player then he is.

    • @muratbayraktar5035
      @muratbayraktar5035 6 месяцев назад +1

      RUclips be like: Here you go a random Sopranos/Soulsborne channel.
      Me: Furiously subscribes.

    • @nothanks9503
      @nothanks9503 6 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/g3aMfG6n-BQ/видео.htmlsi=zDvtH2NF8Ib5jN32
      Catrina Knight theme song

  • @joshzuker8308
    @joshzuker8308 7 месяцев назад +1268

    I think you can summon Solaire for the Gwyn fight if you save him, perhaps implying that he was able to move on and continue looking for his sun

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +206

      Yes, I just haven't brought that up yet but I will be bringing it up in the next segment.

    • @realstreetjesus1953
      @realstreetjesus1953 7 месяцев назад +435

      I read a written interview where Miyazaki himself says that when you summon Solaire to assist with taking down Gwyn, he ends up linking the flame in his own world, and quite literally becomes the sun he was searching for.

    • @joshzuker8308
      @joshzuker8308 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@LavenderRex7705Damn, just saw the new vid... good stuff man!

    • @blizzi8428
      @blizzi8428 7 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@realstreetjesus1953 wasnt it stated somewhere, that solaire canonocally linked the fire when you play ds3?

    • @berto17
      @berto17 6 месяцев назад +35

      @@blizzi8428 i dont think so, supposedly it was the chosen undead because Soul of Cinder takes after the look of the elite knight set, which is how the chosen undead is often portrayed in cover art and promotional material. it would also explain why the first phase uses so many different builds, since the chosen undead is also not a defined character despite having a "canon" look

  • @agxryt
    @agxryt 7 месяцев назад +1550

    I also really loved Vamos' voice. Hes made of bones - he really shouldn't have a voice. The weird sound of it really helps with the implication that hes something unnatural

    • @WolfWalrus
      @WolfWalrus 7 месяцев назад +21

      It always reminds me of Warwick Davis

    • @jarlwhiterun7478
      @jarlwhiterun7478 7 месяцев назад +14

      The Lord of Bones!

    • @gimmedataids
      @gimmedataids 7 месяцев назад +72

      To me, it completely sounds like low-bitrate audio and it makes no sense

    • @CoolDude-of7cd
      @CoolDude-of7cd 7 месяцев назад +142

      @@gimmedataids skeletons have a low bitrate

    • @ThatDamnGato
      @ThatDamnGato 7 месяцев назад +8

      I never really thought about that. What the fuck.

  • @bafolocr
    @bafolocr 7 месяцев назад +421

    I love the little “city” pre bed of chaos part, the whole place SCREAMS unused potential, the whole vibe is cool as shit

    • @ace-smith
      @ace-smith 6 месяцев назад +26

      now that soulstruct for blender is out, i feel like it's only a matter of time before someone drops an area overhaul mod with a revitalized izalith in it. a revitalizalith if you will

    • @SpaceCircIes
      @SpaceCircIes 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ace-smith I hope so. Modders can make this area into what it was meant to be

    • @anonecki
      @anonecki 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ace-smithKing Bore was working on a mod that turns Izalith into a swamp before health issues put him on an indefinite hiatus

  • @DeepWeeb
    @DeepWeeb 7 месяцев назад +222

    6:16 "Why is he not invulnerable to flames?!"
    Says the character who drinks fire to heal *but still gets hurt by fire*

  • @GilCAnjos
    @GilCAnjos 7 месяцев назад +633

    The corpse on Ceaseless Discharge's arena is not supposed to be Quelana, it's Izalith's seventh and last daughter. All seven can be found in the game:
    -Quelaag and the Fair Lady
    -Quelana
    -The one that attacks you before Bed of Chaos
    -The two that became part of the Bed of Chaos
    -The corpse on Ceaseless' arena

    • @danfish88
      @danfish88 7 месяцев назад +77

      This is how I always count them too. I think some people discredit the two either side of Bed of Chaos and Ceaseless arena.

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +94

      I assumed it was a decoy corpse because the clothing you pick up is described as Quelanas

    • @FatherTime39
      @FatherTime39 7 месяцев назад +9

      I always thought the one that attacks you before Bed of Chaos WAS Quelana, just gone hollow.

    • @mauser98kar
      @mauser98kar 6 месяцев назад +72

      @@LavenderRex7705 Its simply a trace of earlier concept, when you had to kill Quelana for her set. They decided to make it drop on-level but forgot to change its description, confusing the heck out of people.

    • @1mmense
      @1mmense 6 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@FatherTime39 I know I'm late, but you can actually visit Quelana after defeating Bed of Chaos. She even gives you a reward iirc

  • @kurenian
    @kurenian 7 месяцев назад +374

    Glad to see someone appreciating the Centipede Demon’s design for once. Mechanically the fight is absolutely horrible, but I think its design at least is a good representation of Chaos far more than Bed of Chaos is.

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +14

      It's a design that has grown on me more and more!

    • @marcusaaronliaogo9158
      @marcusaaronliaogo9158 7 месяцев назад +2

      Reminds me of mukadender from ultraman

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf 3 месяца назад

      and it makes a nice chaos end for the between that is the undead dragon in the Abyss and the purely draconic dragon in ash lake, especially with centipedes representing a kind of serpentine corruption in Japanese folklore.
      The Centipede Demon is the witches corrupt copy of the permanent life of dragons

    • @kman9884
      @kman9884 21 день назад

      It just looks like ceaseless. The design of basically every enemy for Izalith is weak.

    • @kurenian
      @kurenian 21 день назад

      @@kman9884 Including the chaos eaters?

  • @velvetdraws3452
    @velvetdraws3452 7 месяцев назад +216

    I remember someone making a joke about izalith being rushed while i had no clue about DS1, during this joke they showed all the dragon butts and i unironically thought it was an edit, like they modded the game to put them everywhere but no... its just like that

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 4 месяца назад

      How is that a joke? It literally was rushed.

    • @MUHAMMEDYASEEN-bp4gk
      @MUHAMMEDYASEEN-bp4gk Месяц назад +11

      @@eightcoins4401 why they had to put dragon butts though it just makes it weird

    • @Northerncantaim
      @Northerncantaim 16 дней назад

      @@MUHAMMEDYASEEN-bp4gkwhy did the stray demons and stuff have big butts it doesn’t matter it’s just fromsoftware fun

  • @joeldavis1217
    @joeldavis1217 7 месяцев назад +106

    the worst part is, that nobody really appreciates the meaning behind solaires end, due to the area not really telling a story... he is looking for his own sun, something the witch of izalith also did and tried her best to do, but failed... lordran does not actually know what went down in izalith. but solaire venturing to the place where they were closest to recreating the "sun" makes so much sense, even him succumbing to a bug is so very reminiscent of izaliths downfall

  • @Quick-Silver206
    @Quick-Silver206 6 месяцев назад +59

    Ash Lake is my favorite area in the game. It's like you go down to the bottom of the world and then deeper, and then under it. That tree that you see throughout the whole game, now you're under it's roots. And you see others in the distance. I've always believed this was more of a realm than a physically connected place. Almost like the Nightmare Before Christmas where he visits the other holiday realms.

  • @ottr765
    @ottr765 7 месяцев назад +481

    Bro there is a third ending for Siegmeyer. If you kill the chaos eaters before you talk to him he'll give up on adventuring and just disappear, arguably the "happy" ending, but unsatisfying because it's only implied.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 7 месяцев назад +45

      You get the same ending if his HP falls too low. Not a happy ending.

    • @thesovietduck2121
      @thesovietduck2121 7 месяцев назад +142

      I think the happy ending is when he dies to the eaters because he'll die knowing he helped you instead of you helping him all the time which demoralized him

    • @mauser98kar
      @mauser98kar 6 месяцев назад +25

      I think it and him having low hp during fight with eaters both imply that he lost his will to fight and went hollow.

    • @ThyBigCheddar
      @ThyBigCheddar 6 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@nayyarrashid4661 If his HP gets too low he dies. If you kill the chaos eaters he doesn't.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 6 месяцев назад +14

      @@ThyBigCheddar If you kill the chaos eaters before he jumps down he goes hollow anyway. He thinks he is a failure and never goes to Ash Lake.

  • @Foyfabel1497
    @Foyfabel1497 6 месяцев назад +34

    I think what also makes Ceaseless's story even more grim is if you speed up the growls and noises he makes, it's actually the sounds of a baby.

    • @Lexeroid590
      @Lexeroid590 5 месяцев назад +4

      woah, I didn't know that, that's awesome

  • @80nt
    @80nt 6 месяцев назад +77

    that fucking wall in centipede demon's room has plagued me almost as much as that one dead end in sens fortress past the balder knight

    • @SpaceCircIes
      @SpaceCircIes 5 месяцев назад +7

      I really believe that it was intended to be something more, but they ran out of time. Izalith as a whole is an area plagued by rushed development when it was clearly meant to be so much more developed and involved

    • @josephescobar8745
      @josephescobar8745 Месяц назад +1

      I wanted to beat that thing personally but he glitched out if the map and died lol

    • @sleepsie1188
      @sleepsie1188 11 дней назад +1

      I remember everyone used to assume that would be where the Artorias of the Abyss DLC would begin before that released

  • @wheekwarrior1406
    @wheekwarrior1406 7 месяцев назад +411

    This area is why I think dark souls 1 is one of the few popular games that deserves a remake.

    • @semicharmedkindofguy3088
      @semicharmedkindofguy3088 7 месяцев назад +60

      While we're at it dark souls 2 deserves one too.

    • @EmptyxVoid
      @EmptyxVoid 7 месяцев назад +9

      It has a remastered version though. Modern graphics, 60fps. Good stuff. That's what I got for PC.

    • @wheekwarrior1406
      @wheekwarrior1406 7 месяцев назад +146

      @@EmptyxVoid i was thinking something more complete, reworking the game's weaker parts like the second half.

    • @sebastianandres6802
      @sebastianandres6802 7 месяцев назад +43

      A well made remake would be very, very nice but what this game actually really need is an ACTUALLY good remaster. The remastered version as an standalone game is not bad but as a remaster is very disappointing.

    • @UncoolForYou
      @UncoolForYou 7 месяцев назад +5

      Demon's Souls as well. I would love to see the land of the giants. Dark Souls first though, so much left out.

  • @TheSuperRatt
    @TheSuperRatt 7 месяцев назад +42

    Laurentius seems like a real solid guy, right? He's friendly to you, and his manner of speaking doesn't imply any kind of incoming insanity whatsoever. Except...
    There are hints that he's already on the brink of giving in to despair. His self-deprecation. The mentioning that pyromancy is looked down on as a "primitive" art, his understanding if you reject his offer. The pain he feels if you don't tell him about the location of the spectacular chaos pyromancy. It's implied that he's been treated poorly because of his status as a pyromancer and Great Swamp resident, and it seems as if he's internalized some of the negativity.
    If you attack him (a blasphemous action), he'll eventually say: "You detest my pyromancy! That must be it! Then, I'll give you a taste of it! And it will not be pleasant, I assure you!" He'd arrived at the conclusion that the PC attacked him out of prejudice, and I have to wonder if he hadn't always harbored those doubts about the PC, just simmering beneath the surface? It says volumes about how he perceives himself, and those around him. Regardless of whether or not the PC sends him down to Blighttown, he may just be doomed.
    So don't you dare go Hollow.

  • @aquaisuseful682
    @aquaisuseful682 7 месяцев назад +52

    4:58 I heard that invasion sound while I wasn’t looking at the screen and I actually tensed up lol

  • @thatdamncat71
    @thatdamncat71 7 месяцев назад +64

    And how in the hell does siegmeyer get around so well? How did he get to Anor Londo?? Through the lava, down the tree, through blight town without a key?? Amazing

  • @thorzap1374
    @thorzap1374 7 месяцев назад +63

    At the very least, Solaire becomes summonable at the Kiln. Despite everything, he makes it to the end. And in the words of Vaati "the light within Solaire will burn the brightest of us all".

  • @sanddagger36
    @sanddagger36 7 месяцев назад +46

    i feel like the ancient city DLC from DS2 is what Lost Izalith was supposed to be. You can see for miles when you enter and you will eventually explore all of it, and at the very bottom is a pool of water filled with deformed creatures. Imagine if you had to work your way down to the bottom of Izalith only to find the lava filled with these creatures that confuse and frustrate you. Instead, you just kinda get their after 2 terrible boss fights and then you have to use it as your last spawn point before the bed of Chaos, making it less of a forsaken depths of despair and more of a "run through this area as fast as possible"

  • @punklingyt
    @punklingyt 6 месяцев назад +21

    I do love how the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith are the most supreme examples of a clearly professional video game development company one moment with world and level design...and then just 15 copy pastes of the same enemy doing nothing like its someone's first Skyrim mod and they just added more bandits standing in random places

  • @mastergame1311
    @mastergame1311 7 месяцев назад +113

    Maybe they will make this place actually fun to play in the rema-
    Oh.

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +36

      Dark Souls Remastered Remake

    • @vicstoron
      @vicstoron 7 месяцев назад +31

      @@LavenderRex7705 honestly, although it's never going to happen probably, I'd love to see a Dark Souls Remake where they can just take their time and do everything they wanted to do in the original, no matter how long it takes, when I see these unfinished areas and even some of the cut content, I can't help but wonder what this could've been if it had all the time in the world to be made.
      well, at least we have Elden Ring today which, while not it it's probably the CLOSEST we will ever get of something like this lol

  • @meekaboo_
    @meekaboo_ 7 месяцев назад +12

    7:55 you can almost hear the arrow bounce off sunny d's noggin lol. This was a lovely video and it made me happy to see an approach like this towards discussing DS. I feel like at best, the minute stuff like the elevators or the subtler culture building(?) in the lore are things that are briefly mentioned for some larger "theory" people will build, and that can be cool. But I adore these things, I have played these games for years and from my first run through, walking through an area I cleared to stare at walls and sit and read everything I picked up, or pull out my nocs and look at enemies was another core part of the game. I think it's something I loved so much about these earlier games that were a little more messy in their own unique ways, specifically DeS, DS1&2. Bloodborne I feel is equally great but in a different way, and it's more something you chew on as you go through and can act a a launchboard for your own ideas. DS3 and ER feel like they have a lot of concepts I should love, but don't get much enjoyment from exploring this same way, and I think videos like this help me pull apart my thoughts on that. This is the first time I've seen your channel I think, so I'm excited to check out the previous videos. Thanks for making these!

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад

      Lol I didn’t even notice that Solaire got in the way there.

    • @Andy_den
      @Andy_den 6 месяцев назад +1

      You have very eloquently put to words how I feel about the earlier Souls games. Thank you.

  • @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately
    @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately 23 дня назад +5

    1:19 In my headcanon he actually does find her. He finds out that her Pyromancy skills are so far beyond his own, and that within his lifetime he won't be able to attain even a fraction of that power. It crushes him. It also makes him think that his entire existence has been a waste of time. He loses the will to live, and goes hollow.

  • @PerfectSense77
    @PerfectSense77 7 месяцев назад +163

    I didn’t hate Lost Izalith. In hindsight the criticisms everyone makes are valid but they didn’t bother me so much playing through it. For me the lore and just how cool the idea of this lost ancient city deep underground made it fun enough to enjoy exploring it.

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +33

      I definitely feel similarly. I just wish the level was a bit more interesting to match just how cool everything surrounding it is.

    • @danfish88
      @danfish88 7 месяцев назад +2

      I agree with this, demons a pyromancy are my favourite lore in DS1

    • @itsawoodchuck4330
      @itsawoodchuck4330 7 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed. A lot of people just read about it before playing it and it sets a bad image in their head which determines the outcome. Most others just jump on the bandwagon just like with everything else.
      If you ask people who played it blind and are older than 12 (so they can figure how to beat the Bed of Chaos which honestly is very easy.) you’ll find that most people actually enjoyed it and at the very least found the lore and area extremely intriguing.

    • @Destroyer120296
      @Destroyer120296 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@LavenderRex7705 Yeah while it welt a but unfinished and the lava wallking and bed of chaos sucked...i did enjoy it in a way
      It really did feel like a lost city that is ruined, only inhabited by demons and not a place you are supposed to be. Like it is nto made for your convience
      That would not make for a good game normally but i feel it worked when it was really just Lost Izalith that was like that.

    • @itsaUSBline
      @itsaUSBline 6 месяцев назад

      Same here. I don't hate the area or anything, it just makes me sad to think of all the potential it had to be so much better and more fleshed-out than it ended up being. That potential is palpable.

  • @ellie3910
    @ellie3910 7 месяцев назад +31

    I don’t think I’ve ever beat the centipede demon on my own. It always clips out of the arena and just dies. No wonder Solaire gets depressed.

  • @jarlwhiterun7478
    @jarlwhiterun7478 7 месяцев назад +41

    Lost Izalith had the potential to be the coolest area in terms of lore, when you arrive in the game, and historically

  • @fireemblemistrash75
    @fireemblemistrash75 6 месяцев назад +7

    SPEAKING OF AMBIENCE
    Ds1 specifically had a lot of ambience if you listen deeply. They put a hell of a lot of effort on what can be taken as just white noise to fill in the gaps of silence and boss themes. My favorite being at the kiln, the ghosts of silver and black knights walking on, possibly after being burnt along with Gwyn to link the flame one last time.

  • @An_Entire_Lime
    @An_Entire_Lime 7 месяцев назад +46

    After seeing yet another video talking about the content sinkhole that is Lost Izalith I clicked without paying much mind to it, It took me a while to notice how small this channel actually is, pretty good stuff.
    Ugh... transitions are hard... random lore comments!
    I never interpreted Laurentius's Hollowing as him losing his purpose in life like other characters, to me the most likely course of action is that he simply got stuck in the blighttown swamp and was killed until hollow, he DID manage to get himself stuck in the depths after all, and the poisonous swamp is a way more dangerous location that is notably hard to actually leave once you're stuck at the bottom.
    I think that interpretation makes the player's choice a lot more... Coherent? Impactful? It feels like what happens actually has to do with your actions, you didn't send him to some arbitrary location at which point he had some mental crisis you had nothing to do with.
    You KNEW the state of Blighttown and how horrid both the climb down and the subsequent swamp is, but it never crossed your mind when talking to him, because why would it? You're the player, you can't feel pain, or exhaustion, and you have as many chances as you want.
    But after seeing him die there the hindsight hits you like a truck, you very much did send this man to the most vile treacherous place in Lordran. Of course it was going to end badly.
    Laurentius was always doomed the moment he decided to venture there.

    • @locke_d
      @locke_d 6 месяцев назад +2

      Oh man I really like this interpretation of his questline

    • @DestroyDEI
      @DestroyDEI 6 месяцев назад +1

      We didnt hold him at swordpoint and force him to go there? We told him where to go, and he made a conscious effort. He's not my kid, whatever happened to him is 100% his fault lmao.

  • @thatlittlemonstrosity
    @thatlittlemonstrosity Месяц назад +4

    6:48
    witches of Izalith were trying to recreate the first flame with their chaos flame. But that only went how it went, creating monsters and completely mutilating the family. Those human shaped holes were probably meant to be shapes for new flame people but due to chaos flame being so unstable and monstrous, only vaguely humanoid demons came from there
    if you think about it, Lost Izalith is one big Frankenstein’s monster- an attempt in playing a god(/first flame creator), recreating life and the flame and having it backfire in such a tragic way
    it is truly soulcrushing how everything to do with blighttown, lost izalith, pyromancy and chaos just lead to the most hopelessly painful existence. And what’s worse is how underdeveloped Lost Izalith is, it’s so devaluing of such powerful stories. At least we got a good storyline for ivory king in ds2 and how chaos still tortures everything around it and how people choose to fight it off. DS3 kinda dropped the ball with this one tho

  • @thabos8
    @thabos8 6 месяцев назад +38

    Data miners found out lost Izalith was supposed to be a swamp, hence the tree branches in the lava.
    As for the boss fight, use a shield, the sweeping arms can be blocked
    Laurentius goes hollow because he can't find quelana, his pyromancy flame is too weak.
    Siegmeyer is an incredibly strong character, stat wise but he doesn't plan ahead and gives up at the first sign of trouble. He gives up when he sees the gate at sence fortress, he gives up at Anor Londo, he gives up in the swamp because he didn't pack enough moss and finaly gives up at ash lake because he didn't pack any homeward bones. And it is our fault! He doesn't prepare for the task ahead, and tries to wing it, gets into trouble and we the player bail him out everytime, making him feel inadiquate. If we left him allone at sence fortress or any other point, he would have been forced to figure things out for himself or forced to accept teamwork. The weird thing is, he never helps us as a summon, even Lautrec is more usefull to the player then he is.

  • @freddlestick
    @freddlestick 7 месяцев назад +9

    Your channel is a joy, thank you for everything you’ve done so far

  • @thatdamncat71
    @thatdamncat71 7 месяцев назад +33

    It would have been cool if instead of all the dragon butts, they just put more of the other demons. Even some more stray/asylum demons or even smaller versions of them? I dunno... Anything but the butts

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +16

      Anything butt them

    • @dave7474
      @dave7474 6 месяцев назад +1

      maybe a bunch of different demons chunks. some butts, some torsos with arms, who knows!

    • @martingarricks6209
      @martingarricks6209 6 месяцев назад +1

      nah i love them

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 4 месяца назад +2

      They actually wanted the dragon butts to be attached to a dragon sitting on a ledge in an area above and hitting it would start a miniboss. Obviously they ran out of time for this though

  • @JaytheLay1
    @JaytheLay1 6 месяцев назад +3

    Fantastic video, I really dig the vibe, it's mellow and intricate in the right details. I was nodding along the whole time in agreement. Thank ya for your work, I look forward to more

  • @flickflack
    @flickflack 6 месяцев назад +5

    The best part of the Bed is when you go back after killing her. Since she's just that bug, the rest is all still there; the only boss to leave a corpse.

  • @Lexeroid590
    @Lexeroid590 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work man, I love the connection between architecture and lore in the souls games, It really makes you feel like an archeologist travelling through these forbidden, forgotten and ancient locations.

  • @TrickyThe0ne
    @TrickyThe0ne 7 месяцев назад +48

    I know that people don’t like when games are remastered and they change areas, but it was definitely missed potential to not fix up lost Izolith in the remaster of dark souls.

    • @TrickyThe0ne
      @TrickyThe0ne 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@AcidBathSpaandResort-tn7km Well not entirely true, the infamous frame rate bug was fixed in Blighttown which was a massive bug that they couldn’t fix in the past. Between that and the visuals I think it’s the best version of the game to play.

    • @DichotomousRex
      @DichotomousRex 7 месяцев назад +13

      @@AcidBathSpaandResort-tn7km Because that's what a remaster is - not a remake. You don't remake or rework stuff for a remaster.

    • @LLachs283
      @LLachs283 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@AcidBathSpaandResort-tn7km multiplayer worked 100 times better in rework too

  • @lel2991
    @lel2991 7 месяцев назад +3

    What I love with this place is the moment where you realise you're inside that big dome seen when going down for the first time between the fair lady and taurus demons zone

  • @VVENDINGEN
    @VVENDINGEN 6 месяцев назад +3

    I always felt like Demon Firesage taking fire damage was a subversion of the "if it looks like fire, it's resistant to it"- trope that fits the theme of the area perfectly. Thematically, Lost Izalith screams "hubris" to me. They tried to recreate the first flame, but ulitmately discovered that weilding the chaos flame they created, while bringing them great power, would be the end of their civilization. The source of your power can also be your undoing.

  • @fev1027
    @fev1027 6 месяцев назад +2

    God I love Ash lake. The visuals of all those stone arch trees holding up the world combined with that absolutely amazing soundtrack makes it the most evocative place in any souls game. I can't get enough

  • @thebigbean8783
    @thebigbean8783 7 месяцев назад +14

    I quite enjoy lost izalith. I for one am happy it wasn't much bigger. An npc to talk to there would've been nice though. It it was like 15% bigger that would've been fine. It was pretty nice though

  • @AlfredoPuente8
    @AlfredoPuente8 5 месяцев назад +6

    The only thing that equals the 2 chaos Demon zones bad design in the whole game, is the Capra demon fight. Why is my parking space bigger than the arena?

    • @ygthemoth9425
      @ygthemoth9425 5 месяцев назад +2

      Tomb of the giants gives both of them a run for their money lmao

    • @salsamancer
      @salsamancer 4 дня назад

      Sometimes you just have to get a project shipped, so you do the best you can with what you got and hope it doesn't ruin everything.
      In a way these imperfections and obvious shortfalls add to the product in the end. It reminds you that it was made by people who are fallible but tried their best.

  • @mauser98kar
    @mauser98kar 6 месяцев назад +3

    The most sad and hilarious part is that apparently devs had somewhat finished version. Izalith was supposed to be a giant swamp - there were even finished thematic enemies for this area and in some places in lava there are clumps of swamp grass toggled off from being rendered. Basically, they went whole Valley of Defilement with Blighttown-Demon Ruins-Izalith area. You even see the remain of it in form of small indoors swamp inside the Lost Izalith itself.
    And then they decided to turn swamp into lava late-on into development. Which they managed to do half-way, totally messing the area up.

  • @johndaviddukejr2325
    @johndaviddukejr2325 7 месяцев назад +12

    "It was made for me" is a really deep cut, man. Nice connection.

  • @nellyjelly1158
    @nellyjelly1158 5 месяцев назад +6

    I think caelid is the izalith we truly lost. Think about it, izalith was originally supposed to be an infernal swam. The red exploding aeonian geysers, izalith getting changed to a literal inferno. I really believe Miyazaki held onto the idea until elden ring to make up for what was lost

  • @kabsbfkk84028
    @kabsbfkk84028 2 месяца назад

    12:30 This felt like a surprise stab throught the heart

  • @jerryogpack
    @jerryogpack 7 месяцев назад +3

    Im glad im not the only person who thought of the mystery of the amigara fault when i saw those holes

  • @kirinthewanderer5896
    @kirinthewanderer5896 6 месяцев назад +4

    I think it's worth mentioning because you seem like you don't know (if you do you don't mention it) but the architecture in Lost Izalith seems pretty heavily inspired by Angkor Wat in Cambodia, a pretty extraordinary place in its own right, though it makes more sense with the knowledge that Izalith was probably supposed to be a swamp before they started rushing to finish it.

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 7 месяцев назад +6

    Lost Izalith being obviously rushed and unfinished is kinda why I love it so much. It sort of extends the themes of the area and characters tied to it beyond the game itself and into reality. We feel unsatisfied by the plot beats, the level geometry, the re-used and hastily placed enemies. We feel frustrated that the initial awe felt when experiencing the area for the first time (after a very memorable boss) is a quick jaunt into a fragment of what could have been. We experience the failures and shortcomings that come with attempting to replicate the First Flame and all we can do is accept that this is the result of mismanaged resources and people trying their hardest who were stretched beyond breaking point.
    We have all taken on an aspect of Izalith in loathing what it became. We embody the curse of Humanity.

    • @SpaceCircIes
      @SpaceCircIes 5 месяцев назад +2

      while i can see your point, im still not happy with the state of Izalith. It was clearly rushed from a gameplay perspective and the game suffers from it. Izalith could be so much more impactful. Lore wise, it could be one of the most important parts of the game. It was rushed and could be so much better. Think of the DLC compared to Izalith.

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 4 месяца назад +5

      This is the first time on the internet I can say someone is actually coping... damn...

  • @Genesukt64
    @Genesukt64 7 месяцев назад

    I've just been recommended this video and honestly?
    This series throughout souls with your own commentary spin kn it is SO GOOD!!
    I've now found some I belive is going to be *very* bingeable.

  • @TheBrixHub
    @TheBrixHub 7 месяцев назад +1

    I still can't believe I found this channel, you've made videos about Dark Souls, Dune and Godzilla too. I love the time you spend analysing these pieces of art, and acknowleging the care and beauty put into even the ugliest locations, and the places that suffered the most from the development troubles :)
    New favourite youtube channel discovered 🔥

  • @Localii4129
    @Localii4129 6 месяцев назад

    Man, this genuinely made me tear up holy shit, amazing work, i wish i had found your channel before

  • @joshylosh3662
    @joshylosh3662 6 месяцев назад +1

    "The Enigma of Amigara Fault" is exactly what I was thinking, and then you "mentioned" it. Good shit my boy.

  • @d0pesmoker
    @d0pesmoker 6 месяцев назад +5

    Dark souls 1 is such a mythical and good game and will always be my favorite. Idk about anyone else but this game always felt ethereal and forever explorable, such a well crafted world built with a lot of love that I could never find in any of it’s sequels and successors which is a shame.

    • @petercottantail7850
      @petercottantail7850 5 месяцев назад +1

      I couldn't agree more.
      The closest From got to giving me a similar feeling as this game was armor core 1, but for different reasons and not a game i would recommend to just anyone cause of the dated look and controls.

  • @lyoselli
    @lyoselli 6 месяцев назад +8

    oh my god THANK YOU for acknowledging Ceaseless as the gimmic fight it is. Too many people say that the way you beat him is a glitch or a cheese or something, which it very obviously isn't

    • @ace-smith
      @ace-smith 6 месяцев назад +3

      interesting glitch where the orange charred ring can drop from the arm of the centipede demon, allowing you to cheese the fight by equipping it then and there
      strange bug where iron golem can fall entirely off the platform if you knock him down in the right spot, cheesing the whole thing
      there's this glitch where if you deal enough damage to the four kings you can beat them without even fighting all four kings, total cheese moment

  • @brosty_Star
    @brosty_Star 7 месяцев назад

    man, this vid is delightful, I chuckle all the way through, very great content dude

  • @afm571
    @afm571 10 дней назад +1

    10:35 I like how the daughter here is both A) the closest to the Bed of Chaos and B) not a demon. It indicates that becoming a demon like Quelaag and the Fair Lady is a choice. And if so, then Quelana made a horrible mistake leaving her family when she could have helped.

  • @krylotik
    @krylotik Месяц назад

    Don't forget the worms and the walking blenders have that one random attack that destroys all your equipment condition. Love that one

  • @mantidream8179
    @mantidream8179 6 месяцев назад +2

    This area is always such a bummer. Bosses and enemies all suck, Solaire is either depressed or outright dies, and the lava's bloom makes your eyes bleed. The place that looks like that one root-covered temple in Cambodia is kinda neat visually, but that's about it.

    • @ygthemoth9425
      @ygthemoth9425 5 месяцев назад

      If you kill the glowing bug you actually safe Solaire

  • @felipedenis8709
    @felipedenis8709 7 месяцев назад +2

    That's why I always from now on will play with the izalith swamp mod, I try it on a recent playthru and it's amazing, it trully explore some of the potential this zone has.

  • @enn1924
    @enn1924 4 месяца назад +1

    I like to think that if Solaire assists you against Gwyn, both Solaire and the player kindle the flame, which is Solaire's sun

  • @LeonelFlesh
    @LeonelFlesh 4 дня назад

    8:36 that's the three fingers' chamber

  • @anonecki
    @anonecki 4 месяца назад

    I read somewhere that Kirk's armour set describing him as a member of the Darkwraiths is a bit of a mistranslation, with "dark spirit" being more accurate.
    Great video btw, you really hit the nail on the head with all the wasted potential this place had.

  • @scoothimself353
    @scoothimself353 5 месяцев назад +1

    Unrelated, but I totally forgot that spells used to have a set amount of casts and there was no FP. Wild.

  • @ActuallyNickV
    @ActuallyNickV Месяц назад +1

    I will always love dark souls lore because half of the discussion is about the deep representations and metaphores surrounding the oddities found hidden in the world, while the other half is "here's a quote from the devs saying they fucked up the textures on accident" lol
    It's the "what does the blue curtain represent in this story?" joke cranked up to 100

  • @bwhit7919
    @bwhit7919 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was extremely over-leveled by the time I reached Izalith. This wasn’t all that bad. It was nice to steamroll an area. It made you feel powerful, something uncommon in fromsoft games.

  • @EmptyxVoid
    @EmptyxVoid 7 месяцев назад +10

    Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith looks so vast but arguably empty, I think.

  • @punkbeachh
    @punkbeachh 7 месяцев назад +1

    Loving these videos. Thank you and pls keep them coming !!

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you! We are almost near the end of the first dark souls game!

  • @TheBlueMoments
    @TheBlueMoments 6 месяцев назад

    Hey man, just want to say i love your explanations of the lore as you go through these area's. Great content man! Easy sub choice

  • @RAAAAAAHHHHHhh
    @RAAAAAAHHHHHhh 7 месяцев назад +4

    You have upper dragon torsos in other parts of the game. These are their butts.

  • @honeyeagle977
    @honeyeagle977 6 месяцев назад +2

    Laurentius is my favourite character in all of fiction. I feel the same way. On one hand, telling him the location leads to his death essentially. Though, I’m not sure that going hollow is always a result of losing hope. I got the impression that getting killed one too many times can lead to going hollow. Probs cause of the Crestfallen Merchant’s dialogue about looting bodies. I don’t really perfectly understand the requirements for going hollow so maybe I’m just theorising this because I also don’t understand why Laurentius ends up like that.
    I dunno if you can tell but I think about Laurentius’ questline a lot.

    • @kermit4036
      @kermit4036 28 дней назад +1

      I think the dangerous trek through Blightown might have made Laurentius feel hopeless about reaching a new level of pyromancy, so he went hollow

  • @mr.bluesky4130
    @mr.bluesky4130 18 дней назад

    The chaos eater has so much potential with the trypophobia and the pile o mouths and the resinous mushroom design language. That’s some proper classic ADnD era monster design

  • @minerman60101
    @minerman60101 7 месяцев назад +7

    I'm looking forward to this series being edited into one mega video...

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah! I plan on revisiting some of the older videos to see if I want to revise anything and then stitch it all together into one big video.

    • @minerman60101
      @minerman60101 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@LavenderRex7705 That's what BertoPlease did with his Elden Ring 1.00 series so you have the right idea lol.

    • @LavenderRex7705
      @LavenderRex7705  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@minerman60101 That video is so good

    • @minerman60101
      @minerman60101 7 месяцев назад

      @@LavenderRex7705 my youtube comments are in it so I am obliged to think the same thing :happy_thonk:

  • @fplatkrtem
    @fplatkrtem 7 месяцев назад +12

    Laurentius going hollow trying to find a woman is just too relatable

    • @CHIQUIZO
      @CHIQUIZO 7 месяцев назад

      bruh ... my feels

  • @kartanashimisaky6140
    @kartanashimisaky6140 7 месяцев назад

    even with all the developing turmoil, Lost Izalith still manages to be full of great stuff, it's incredible

  • @zachsmith4473
    @zachsmith4473 6 месяцев назад

    I know I’m a bit late here but those holes in the walls totally reminded me of the Enigma of Amigara Fault as well. After a lifetime of absorbing horror content, that short story is Ito’s best but one of the greatest works of horror in only 30 pages or so.

  • @gg-dw8uk
    @gg-dw8uk 5 месяцев назад

    The script is very well written. The editing is on point.

  • @GillfigGarstang
    @GillfigGarstang 6 месяцев назад

    6:37 -what we like to think a random small detail in our favourite game means; “It’s a great display of not only our biases as people, but also how narrow our view of the world really is”.
    -What the environmental texture artist was probably actually thinking; “I need a square tileable texture to cover all this unfinished level geometry”

  • @billyjoel8510
    @billyjoel8510 22 дня назад

    I did not know ceaseless had an actual boss fight. Always assumed his fall was the real way

  • @GoofyAhhLion2937
    @GoofyAhhLion2937 25 дней назад +2

    12:30 This happened with me also

  • @dalemein8682
    @dalemein8682 6 месяцев назад

    This is a fucking fire video honestly. I really love how you lay it all out. Reminds me of older RUclips videos without all the jank lmao. This is SUPA HOT FYAAAAA

  • @willhibbard6903
    @willhibbard6903 Месяц назад

    In my playthrough, I didn’t know you could save Seigmeir from the Chaos Eaters, so I accepted his sacrifice and ran. If you do this, you can hear him laughing as you run away. I like to think him dying happy is the best path for him, but I’m ultimately not sure

  • @funkykong1994
    @funkykong1994 6 месяцев назад

    I wish there was a Izalith like dungeon under the volcano manor in Elden Ring. Fighting the giant serpent coiled around the ruins of an ancient city would be so cool!

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 6 месяцев назад +1

    1:00 Putting the interstellar clip there hits too hard
    On my first playthrough i was like 'great! I'll share the info with *my friend*, and he'll be happy he can explore the depths of pyromancies and i may get new pyromancies'!
    *And then i saw him hollowed in blighttown and i was really sad*
    Him being so caring, and just him telling me not to go hollow, is enough for me to want treasure him forever

  • @immanuel7126
    @immanuel7126 7 месяцев назад

    Really good video, loved your opinions on the Topics. Keep it up my man

  • @pedrofernandes8790
    @pedrofernandes8790 6 месяцев назад

    6:36 I never payed attention to these walls, what a interesting detail

  • @ftir1450
    @ftir1450 19 дней назад

    It's interesting that the centipede demon appears to be returning in Elden Ring: Nightrein

  • @Hello-lf1xs
    @Hello-lf1xs 13 дней назад

    Sieglinde is possibly one of the most impressive characters in the game - mostly because she’s apparently still human, NOT undead, and yet treks all the way to Lordran and survives all that stuff with relative ease

  • @Henskelion
    @Henskelion 6 месяцев назад

    I'm not a Souls guy, I've only played through 1 a few times (and never finished it), and only watched a friend play Bloodborne, and maybe I'm just a weird freak, but the ocean of dragon asses is honestly one of the most memorable parts of the game for me. I think it just taps into a sort of unknown terror for me, since I remember not being able to even tell what the hell they were supposed to be when I first played it, and the way it makes that entire area so unbelievably hostile, combined with how confusing it is to find a way out of that area, as well as it just making me think of all these childhood nightmares I had, makes it feel like one of the closest depictions to Hell I've seen in a game.

  • @authenticbaguette6673
    @authenticbaguette6673 2 месяца назад

    12:27 I laughed so hard here that tears started coming out
    what is wrong with me lmao

  • @n0thingnowak389
    @n0thingnowak389 3 дня назад

    I always thought of lost izalith as of lava destroyed wasteland, that once was high prospering civilisation, now eaten up by chaos and lava. Because of this, the unfinished look of the levels there, never bothered me

  • @VanDerBooben
    @VanDerBooben 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is by far my favourite video series on the internet, no contest.

  • @TriptuneRadio
    @TriptuneRadio 6 месяцев назад

    Can't wait to see this channel blow up to 300k :)

  • @The-Anathema
    @The-Anathema 6 месяцев назад

    Life from something inanimate can also be found with the titanite demons, as well as the titanite lizards (the latter being mentioned) and they're, arguably, an even better example.

  • @Hakhoumbha
    @Hakhoumbha 20 дней назад

    i love how there is practically no images or data talking about "lost izalith"

  • @mantheman4364
    @mantheman4364 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video man.

  • @unfortunato
    @unfortunato 7 месяцев назад

    Lovely video, I agree with most of what you mention. The human-shaped holes are quite interesting, I personally like to think that the dead turned into demons and were 'stored' in the walls like some sort of cursed cryo-tube.

  • @naswinger
    @naswinger 13 дней назад

    laurentius only has a +8 pyromancy flame. i think he can't find/see quelana because that requires a +10 flame.

  • @KiwiBeeArt
    @KiwiBeeArt 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love the chaos eaters! They look like a giant vaccum cleaner that a kid put a bunch of googly eyes on then it gained sentience

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 6 месяцев назад

    11:35 Fuck. That scene always gets me, even without any reason. There are two scenes in interstellar i remember even 0.2 seconds after i was shaken out of sleep, and both of them involve Matthew giving it his absolute all

  • @basedneet_n3w0rd3r
    @basedneet_n3w0rd3r 7 месяцев назад +1

    you did really well at the end there :) also liked the jokes