I've been a Chiefs fan for 35ish years. Unfortunately for me, been a Niners fan just a bit longer LOL. Let's just say I cheered a lot harder for the Chiefs win last year :)
That's true. They depreciated offensive productive for defense. It was a big risk that almost did not work. But this draft they have a chance to replace Hill with two quality guys. Chiefs' offense next year will be much, much more potent.
Also, Mahomes came out of the Buffalo trade. SF had the 3rd pick. They thought Jimmy G was better than any QB in the draft. SF fans gotta be having a buig case of the what ifs.
@@ARIZJOE Some was not part of the plan. They didn't expect guys like Moore and Toney who were moderately productive that had been integral to the SB run last year to become allergic to the ball. They just need to draft someone who has never dropped a ball, ever in his life. How hard is that?
With the picks acquired from the Tyreek trade the Chiefs drafted McDuffie, Skyy Moore, Rashee Rice, Darrian Kinnard and Keondre Coburn AND if I'm not mistaken the Chiefs still have ONE more draft pick from the Dolphins in this yrs. draft !
49ers let him go unblocked on that third down in OT. A massive mistake that not many are really talking about. They just kinda assume Jones did Jones things and beat the blocker, but there literally wasn't one. Another guy reached a hand out, but his assignment was George after he got around Kittle. It was a massive f up by the o-line in the biggest moment. The guy that should have blocked Jones went towards the center's assignment.
If the chiefs go to the superbowl next year it will be the weirdest mix of so much pressure and no pressure at all. Chance to do something that has never been done, but a team with an absurd amount of experience and a bunch of young guys who have only ever known superbowls their entire career.
Best take! Mecole Hardman has had the best career start of any wide receiver in NFL history 5 CC appearances 4 wins, 4SB appearances , and 3 wins with a chance to 3 peat and have 4 of 6 kids prolly not even 28 yrs old yet and they got a bunch of 2 year players with 2 SB’s 😂
As a Chiefs Fan who has lived through the death throws of Montana’s career and all of the lean years and butts of jokes, I am enjoying every second of this new success. I never take a single Game for granted and agree they need to mortgage the cow to pay Sneed and CJ. Get some WR talent and draft like we do. If they can do that this season will be much smoother and not down to single elimination games as early as we did this year. Being 3seed was a bit scary but they stepped their helmets tight and earned every bit of shiny hardware they won throughout the season.
Getting Jones and Sneed to resign starts with getting Mahomes and Kelce to restructure. They both are bringing in so much money through endorsements that it shouldn't be that hard to convince them. And convincing CJ to take a little less to be a part of history.
As much as I love Sneed, that is the one position we are stacked at. Watson and Williams have played a ton and just finished their second year. The Chiefs do a great job at developing corners. Be smart and let Sneed walk. He deserves a huge contract, just not from the Chiefs.
Since we know from past statements from Chiefs management, they were willing to go around 25 million for Jones, he just has to ask himself. Is getting 20% less than what you want, worth being on a threepeat team (potentially)? Hard to really answer that from our point of view, but i would think, 25 million would be enough. I'll take the instant, massive legacy, and living legend status. But thats just me.
@@SpencerRayFitchno he doesn't lol! He got his ring and now sees South Beach daily as a rich mofo versus living in Kansas City. Oh and BTW he doesn't pay state taxes on his money.
Rashee is a solid wr2. Even if they don’t get a wr1 to rather resign the defense, I think getting another wr2 guy is important. As far as wideouts go, the rest of them are wr3s at best. Juju was similarly a solid wr2 level guy when the chiefs had him.
Rashee could be wr1 he is still developing for all i know he could be a top 5 wr in the future. Tyreek didnt explode until his third year took cooper 5, davante 5, see where im getting at.
You're kidding right ? He was barely used the first half of the season (3 or 4) catches a game... then he came on like a seasoned pro. I think he broke all the Chiefs Rookie receiving records. The guy's a wr1.
@@jl4224 A veteran chasing a ring wouldn't care about repeat or threepeat Super Bowls. I just haven't seen any evidence of veterans willing to play for less for a shot at a ring.
They have to add a veteran wideout. They've more than proved they can win with one arm tied behind their back on offense. Time now to give Mahomes more weapons and give the D a breather. And it's a deep WR draft as usual so they can draft one as well.
You want a Vet WR...well Titans have Hopkins who is on the last year of his contract. Probably just have to give up a 2nd or multiple 3rds for him. Titans need draft picks and in a rebuild point.
Harbaugh is a good coach. Herbert suffered from bad coaching. Chargers are going to be tough. Burrow will be healthy. Stroud will be better. It won't be a cake walk next year.
@@felixrodriguez7423the bengals just Lost their offensive coordinator and Probably will lose Tee Higgins, The Chargers are going to be better, but still not beating the chiefs, cj stroud still needs at most like 2 more years of development
Veach will "draft another one" but it's likely he also brings in a couple veteran WRs to shore up the position for Mahomes. There is an abundance of reliable veteran WRs FAs that would vastly improve the Chiefs receiver room next season.
Will be hard to maintain the chemistry of this run by expanding or turning over the WR room. Mahomes needs better O-line play and one deep threat, that's it. Defense is set.
Many of those teams that did back to back did it in the no salary cap age, when it was MUCH easier to do and the parity was so much worse. Every major sport was way easier to be a dynasty 30+ years ago....
I would be shocked if the Chiefs don't go full throttle into the threepeat. 2025 doesn't matter. They will go down as one of the all time greats if they pull it off.
Let Chris Jones go if it gets too expensive, and use that money to tilt our strength more back toward offense and keep the rest of the key defensive players.
Mike Pennel was the highest graded DLineman on Sunday. If Jones walks, then it is what it is. Signing Sneed and preserving that DB core is more important into todays game
How come no one from chiefs received an annual NFL award? I know why. Because they are a team not individuals. Together they are the best. Offense and Defense take care of each other.
As a Chiefs fan I agree with what Rich is saying. Maybe don’t go all in as in using our future to get the perfect team but resign everyone you can most notably Jones and Sneed with contract restructuring and then you could use the draft to pick up extra talent for the future and maybe get a speedy receiver that’s dangerous enough to take the top off the defense so Rice and Kelce can open up more like it was with Tyreek. But even if they can’t get Jones to resign they could use the money to get a flashy receiver that’s more well known. I don’t have much worries we can really only get better from here offensively which was our biggest problem this year and at the most we lose the best defensive player we have which sounds like a big problem but others have stepped up big this year since they were on the team last year like Sneed, McDuffie, Bolton, Reid etc. so if anything we use the draft to try and replace him defensively. No matter which way it goes we can get better as a team and best believe no matter who’s in the wide receiver room next year Andy will make sure they play better than they did this year.
Update: Chris Jones says he’s staying for the next two years at least so we’ll see if that remains true if he has to take a pay cut but sounds like they’ve talked about it
i’m sure the chiefs, the most sustained franchise success in modern football, need Rich Eisens advice. the guy who picked the raiders last year. that guy
I think Jones' best years will be behind him. Maybe 1 more season in him before he starts declining. Sneed however is young. Pay him instead. Lockdown corners are a lot harder to replace than DT are.
The big man can play for 3 or 4 more years and be a force. Reggie White, Michael Strahan, Richard Hamilton, Freeney, Peppers...those guys were great till the day they hung it up. Chris Jones can play 3 more years at this level. There is nobody else that can fill that role. He deserves to make more than Donald right now, he's better. I agree that it will be tough it is also a truth that we are deep on the DL and I totally agree that resigning Sneed to a long term contract is a foregone conclusion, he must stay a Chief, priority #1.
Absolutely re-sign those key defensive players, but also clean up the wide receiver room. There is some dead weight they need to get rid of. If they go get another receiver, he has to be a capable guy who’s willing to take a prove-it deal like Juju did, it’s not going to be a big name guy who will want a huge pay day.
Your goal as GM is to win the Superbowl every year, not follow what the Patriots did. Luckily for KC there is so much they can do this off-season to create cap without losing anyone significant and many ways to manipulate the cap space. They currently have $22m in cap space. I think it's a forgone conclusion they cut MVS to save $12m. Hopefully they can trade Toney for scraps which saves $2.5m. Justin Reid is on his last year of his contract. They can choose to extend him and give him a signing bonus for this season to free up cap or they could trade him to save $14m and let their 4th round pick last year in Conner take his spot, or they can cut him to save about $11m. Cutting a Justin Watson also saves $2m
First off, I don't need any advice about football operations from a Jets fan. Second the plan is to be chasing rings every year with Pat. Selling out for one is stupid.
No, that’s how you end up not winning a Super Bowl for a decade. You give the bank to Jones, you give the bank to Sneed, things fall apart next year and then you’re screwed. Keep doing your thing, Brett! If Kelce can play for $18m then certainly Jones can also play for $20m and not $30m+
It’s possible but I’m not sure of their cap situation and they have to worry about not losing Chris Jones. Prolly gonna have to pay him like $30 million a year idk If they have much room to negotiate with other high profile free agents after that. That would be a deadly duo though mahomes and evans that would be nuts
Rich is my favorite objective media personnel. He always keeps it straight and doesn't beat around the bush. As a Chiefs fan we better go ALL OUT next year. Give Chris Jones a 2 year $60 million guaranteed deal, re-sign sneed and load up on receivers. We need a bona-fided #1. Tee Higgins on the Chiefs would be the sweetest revenge ever and D-Hop.
Chris Jones wrecked havoc on the oline but he's been pretty quiet during regular season. I don't know if you break the bank for him when that money could sure up harder to fill positions and try to draft someone
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The Chiefs next Season, will be Andy Reid's Magnum Opus. They'll more than likely get a WR, they have a great Defense, that is still very youthful. They might have went through arguably the toughest gauntlet of opponents to get and win the Superbowl. Next Season, the Chiefs will join Teams like the 85 Bears, 84 9ers, 91 Redskins in contention for the Greatest Team of All Time.
No disrespect to all the elite wide receivers out there. The Chiefs need Chris Jones more. Give the man the money. Watching him reminded me of Aaron Donald of the Rams and Von Miller of the Broncos in the other Super Bowls.
That would make the the chiefs the best team of all time and Patty would be the goat no question and I wouldn’t listen to any debates ever in life. 😂 and I’m a Bucs fan
I'm sure when Reid retires, there will be an ABUNDANCE of good/great HC/OC willing to come to KC for the opportunity to coach Mahomes. Coaching wise i believe the Chiefs will be fine for the entirety of Mahomes career.
Travis has to want to come back to try for a 3 peat. Someone that intense in the game isn't looking to check out after the SB. Although guys have to want to make the deal work to get that ring. I get money is money, I would want that ring. Jordan said it at the end of the Last Dance. He wanted that ring.
Chiefs lost there big contract genius I think his name is Tillis. It's not going to be as easy. Heck it's not going to be easy anyway. Andy is my age and I know he still has gas in the tank if his health and his family stays good and behind him. This is so great as a LONG time Chiefs fan. I seen the first SB we won as a young boy with a red cheep plastic helmet I painted an arrowhead on the side of it. Wow that was a long time ago.
A lot of good points made in this comment section. Remember, the Chiefs have been killing it in the draft as of late, getting guys like McDuffie, Rice, Pacheco, Sneed, Bolton, and others. As well, they've at times made strategic trades of talented young stars to gain draft capital to keep killing it in the draft. Although I won't be around to see Pat's last Super Bowl, I was around to see the first Chiefs SB loss and win. 3 peat would be nice, but KC wants 10 of 'em! Veach has the right process........stay the course......
Hopefully some players take cuts to shoot for the SB instead. Pull a Brady and get paid less to end up with more in the long run. I dont see everyone getting the phat bag. The desire for another SB will have to overcome the money needed. I feel some moves for a Vet WR1 will be made this offseason.
It looks like Mahomes will restructure his contract to free up cap space. He makes $45 million in advertising and that figure will grow substantially due to this SB win.
With Payton refining the Broncos, Harbaugh tapping into Herbert and Pierce getting the Raiders to believe in themselves, plust the way they looked in the regular season this year, it will be harder. Not that the Chiefs won’t win the AFC West, it’s just going to be way more competitive moving forward.
You know, back when I was a younger man, teams that won 2 Super Bowls in a row never wanted to win a third. In fact, they would publicly announce that they were planning to chill out and relax next season.
Brady never had to face this amount of talent for his entire career. Mahomes will have to face Burrow, Allen, Stroud and Herbert for the next 12-15 years
Brady had the luck to play in the AFC East for decade plus when there was no competition. Jets Dolphins Bills were deadbeats as franchises. Easy road to playoffs with multiple byes. AFC West is just getting more intense, all going in and Chiefs might not get a first round bye in the foreseeable future.
The rest of the west seems like they're getting better, but then every year, they suck. People said the same thing when russ went to the Broncos and the same when devante went to Raiders.
KC doesn't have to go all in , they have a young offense and defense just need to resign Jones , Sneed , gay and tranquil and draft another WR in first Rd ..mahomes already said he will rework his deal to keep all the guys .
I often wonder how Tyreek Hill feels as he watches his former team play in and win two consecutive Super Bowls. Is the money worth the anguish of sitting on the beach sipping a drink with three beauties, or would you rather be playing in the Super Bowl? Also, if you are Chris Jones do you want to play on a team with Patrick Mahomes or someone else?
You guys listed all the teams that have won back to back Super Bowls except the Niners, who did so in the '88 and '89 seasons. Let's also not forget that they were poised to win 3 in a row the following season when, as the #1 seed, they lost to the Giants, who badly injured Montana, knocked him out of the game and changed his career forever.
Patriots dynasty got a lot of help from team-friendly contracts with Brady. Brady knew what he was doing, and wanted enough money to be wisely spent to keep putting a team capable of Super Bowls around him. Unlike the NBA & MLB, the NFL has an absolute, no getting around it hard salary cap. It is easy to say "pay them all" but that can become fiscally impossible. KC suffered heavily losing Tyreek Hill, but they didn't have the cap space to keep everyone. Hard choices and smart draft choices are often the only way to stay under a hard salary cap.
Losing Tyreek though saved them a lot of money to use elsewhere and draft picks to build their defense. So Chiefs need to continue to be smart about who to resign, who to trade, and who to let go.
Chiefs do not go all in for one year. They are building to compete every year, like the patriots. Going all in is for one and done teams, not dynasties
They shouldn't mortgage it all for a 3 peat. Honestly. I'd tag and trade either Chris Jones(About to turn 30), or L'Jarious Snead(27 year old corner about to get paid top of the league salary at corner). Let the other one walk. You get draft capital from one you trade, and the one you let walk(Free agency competitive pick 3rd round). You trust your scouting department that's already done amazing in their recent past of scouting players. Remember that Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith, Trent McDuffie, and George Karlaftis to get resigned in the next 2 years. Don't kill your future cap on it. Keep the Super Bowl window open for 5-7 more years, rather than making the window wide open for only 2 more years tops. It's cap negligence to pay both Snead, and Chris Jones. You pay Butker, and Drue Tranquil. You let Willie Gay walk, you let one of Snead and Chris Jones walk, and you tag and trade the other.
Not everyone going ti be greedy on his own than the Team and QB... Best in NFL QB going for 3, 4, 5, 6... Post season bonuses and Superbowl checks and rings.. History!
Got to resign Chris Jones, and bring back the Defense. Probably will draft another WR like Rice, but I would say also be open to signing a veteran WR to a 1 year deal like they did with JuJu two seasons ago. Let's go!!!
Get rid of sky and Toney. Pay Sneed, Jones , Gay , Tranquil. Keep the rest of the squad. Might loose a few 2nd stringers on D. Veach will scoop up some prospects. Hopefully a WR1. Along with Rice. Get JuJu back or a T Higgins. Threepeat is in our sites. I'll be watching to see what is done.
There’s more than one way to win again. I’d rather they improve the WR corp, have the top offense and a #10 defense. Be number 1 for TD in the Red Zone. If Jones fits with a #1 offense, great! If not, ok.
Chiefs with Alex Smith at QB and Andy Reid went 1-3 in the playoffs before Mahomes. That's why they drafted Mahomes to take them to the next level. And boy did he...
A 3pete would be amazing but I'm not sure i would be willing to sell the future for it. It's still far from guaranteed even if you do. I guess it's just a question of priorities. Is a potential 3pete worth a couple down years with cap problems? Especially when they've proven that they can win on a budget.
Imagine what they could do if Mahomes did what Ohtani did with the Dodgers and deferred all but $2 million a year of his salary. They could keep everyone...and really piss off Tyreek Hill.
Solution recipe for 2024 & 2025- sign Chris to a reasonable contract ~22-25m or let him go, restructure Mahomes contract to reduce cap hit by ~25m, sign another stud defensive back for Chris for 10-15m, pay up Sneed and retain, sign up strong WR1 and another WR…done. Rebuild 2026 onwards.
Pay Jones (but include more incentives), Kelce, Sneed. I think we could keep MVS for roughly the same contract. Restructure Mahomes. Sneed may have to go, but if he does, we need to pay another good wr
If only it were that easy to repeat 🤣😂 What a time to be a Chiefs fan. It's just crazy.
It's just like my franchise mode as a kid. It's amazing
... I'm lovin it 🎉 🍺🍻
See what I did there? 3 beers!
I've been a Chiefs fan for 35ish years. Unfortunately for me, been a Niners fan just a bit longer LOL. Let's just say I cheered a lot harder for the Chiefs win last year :)
@@deanengemoenso you’re a Niner fan.
Rich Eisen is by far my favorite commentator.
I know this has probably been mentioned somewhere but the Chiefs defense came largely out of the Tyreek Hill trade.
That's true. They depreciated offensive productive for defense. It was a big risk that almost did not work. But this draft they have a chance to replace Hill with two quality guys. Chiefs' offense next year will be much, much more potent.
Also, Mahomes came out of the Buffalo trade. SF had the 3rd pick. They thought Jimmy G was better than any QB in the draft. SF fans gotta be having a buig case of the what ifs.
@@ARIZJOE Some was not part of the plan. They didn't expect guys like Moore and Toney who were moderately productive that had been integral to the SB run last year to become allergic to the ball. They just need to draft someone who has never dropped a ball, ever in his life. How hard is that?
With the picks acquired from the Tyreek trade the Chiefs drafted McDuffie, Skyy Moore, Rashee Rice, Darrian Kinnard and Keondre Coburn AND if I'm not mistaken the Chiefs still have ONE more draft pick from the Dolphins in this yrs. draft !
Nick Wright mentioned that
Chris Jones saved at least 3 TDs. Game MVP as a Niners Fan.
Mahomes ripped yall heart out 😂😂
McDuffie with 3 PD’s, including that insanely clutch blitz late in the 4th. I would argue him too.
The defense call safe the TD. He’s playing on the perfect sistem bro.. if he go to another team he is going to be just another guy.
49ers let him go unblocked on that third down in OT. A massive mistake that not many are really talking about. They just kinda assume Jones did Jones things and beat the blocker, but there literally wasn't one. Another guy reached a hand out, but his assignment was George after he got around Kittle. It was a massive f up by the o-line in the biggest moment. The guy that should have blocked Jones went towards the center's assignment.
Until the Mahomes OT runs I was pounding the table for Jones as MVP but after that I couldn’t really deny him.
Patriots and Chiefs. All time Head Coach, Great Defensive Coordinator, All time QB, All Time TE, All time Kicker.
Good offensive lines and solid running backs and receivers to complement tight ends
and both letting people go and not over paying on skill positions 👀
If the chiefs go to the superbowl next year it will be the weirdest mix of so much pressure and no pressure at all. Chance to do something that has never been done, but a team with an absurd amount of experience and a bunch of young guys who have only ever known superbowls their entire career.
That’s how it felt this year a little bit. Already 2 rings with the core, just won it last year, but if you choke the b2b people start going “well…”
Suffering from success lol@@theroosters2525
Best take! Mecole Hardman has had the best career start of any wide receiver in NFL history 5 CC appearances 4 wins, 4SB appearances , and 3 wins with a chance to 3 peat and have 4 of 6 kids prolly not even 28 yrs old yet and they got a bunch of 2 year players with 2 SB’s 😂
As a Chiefs Fan who has lived through the death throws of Montana’s career and all of the lean years and butts of jokes, I am enjoying every second of this new success. I never take a single Game for granted and agree they need to mortgage the cow to pay Sneed and CJ. Get some WR talent and draft like we do. If they can do that this season will be much smoother and not down to single elimination games as early as we did this year. Being 3seed was a bit scary but they stepped their helmets tight and earned every bit of shiny hardware they won throughout the season.
Throes?
Getting Jones and Sneed to resign starts with getting Mahomes and Kelce to restructure. They both are bringing in so much money through endorsements that it shouldn't be that hard to convince them. And convincing CJ to take a little less to be a part of history.
Mahomes already said he's willing to restructure.
As much as I love Sneed, that is the one position we are stacked at. Watson and Williams have played a ton and just finished their second year. The Chiefs do a great job at developing corners. Be smart and let Sneed walk. He deserves a huge contract, just not from the Chiefs.
@@tornadoh yes. Spell check changes it and my lack of proof reading allowed it to remain.
I love the “draft another one” vibe because that’s what exactly the energy I’m on! Henny thing is possible with this squad!
Chad rules!!!
I love it. Its Henne though
Sneed/MçDuffie best Cb tandem in the league.
Since we know from past statements from Chiefs management, they were willing to go around 25 million for Jones, he just has to ask himself. Is getting 20% less than what you want, worth being on a threepeat team (potentially)?
Hard to really answer that from our point of view, but i would think, 25 million would be enough. I'll take the instant, massive legacy, and living legend status.
But thats just me.
Do a few commercials... those $ dont count against the cap.
Problem is he has twiddle dee and twiddle dum as his agents.
Do players get a money incentive from being in the Hall of Fame?
Use Tyreek as an example. Dude wishes he was here.
@@SpencerRayFitchno he doesn't lol! He got his ring and now sees South Beach daily as a rich mofo versus living in Kansas City. Oh and BTW he doesn't pay state taxes on his money.
how do you not love Pat and Trav man? they just ball out and dare you to stop them ❤
I LOVE THIS TEAM!
Free agents might be willing to take a one-year contract to be part of history! Consider it people.
Great insight
If taking a cheap free agent contract for a chance like this was my problem, I 'd gladly jump on board!
That’s exactly how they got Tranquille and Edwards.
Rashee is a solid wr2. Even if they don’t get a wr1 to rather resign the defense, I think getting another wr2 guy is important. As far as wideouts go, the rest of them are wr3s at best. Juju was similarly a solid wr2 level guy when the chiefs had him.
Rashee could be wr1 he is still developing for all i know he could be a top 5 wr in the future. Tyreek didnt explode until his third year took cooper 5, davante 5, see where im getting at.
You're kidding right ? He was barely used the first half of the season (3 or 4) catches a game... then he came on like a seasoned pro. I think he broke all the Chiefs Rookie receiving records. The guy's a wr1.
They need to draft a WR that can play outside in the X position. The position played by MVS. Big and fast is the requirement.
Surprised they didn’t mention the possibility of some players signing with the Chiefs below market value to have a chance at a ring.
Didn't really happen in the last offseason.
@@ozarked2363because last offseason they are not yet back to back champions. Now they are and striving to make history with 3 peat
@@jl4224 A veteran chasing a ring wouldn't care about repeat or threepeat Super Bowls. I just haven't seen any evidence of veterans willing to play for less for a shot at a ring.
Andy Reid specifically told Drue Tranquill "If you want a ring, come to KC."
They have to add a veteran wideout. They've more than proved they can win with one arm tied behind their back on offense. Time now to give Mahomes more weapons and give the D a breather. And it's a deep WR draft as usual so they can draft one as well.
At this point I think veteran WRs who have been paid would come for less money for a legitimate shot at a ring.
Could be like when moss went to the pats and they went undefeated (but then lost to Eli in the SB lol)
You want a Vet WR...well Titans have Hopkins who is on the last year of his contract. Probably just have to give up a 2nd or multiple 3rds for him. Titans need draft picks and in a rebuild point.
They need to aim to be the one seed coming out of the AFC though makes it a little bit easier going into playoffs
Harbaugh is a good coach. Herbert suffered from bad coaching. Chargers are going to be tough. Burrow will be healthy. Stroud will be better. It won't be a cake walk next year.
@@felixrodriguez7423they say the same things every year
@@felixrodriguez7423the bengals just Lost their offensive coordinator and Probably will lose Tee Higgins, The Chargers are going to be better, but still not beating the chiefs, cj stroud still needs at most like 2 more years of development
I'm sure they were aiming for it this year. It's not as easy as it should though.
I would like to see D Hop in a Chiefs uni.
Waste of money
I’d like to see someone. Not sure dhop still the guy
Washed
We’ll take him if he wants to take a massive discount
I want Mike Evans.
PAT TRICK !!
Great comment!
Let’s do it !!! 🎉🎉🎉
Veach will "draft another one" but it's likely he also brings in a couple veteran WRs to shore up the position for Mahomes. There is an abundance of reliable veteran WRs FAs that would vastly improve the Chiefs receiver room next season.
Will be hard to maintain the chemistry of this run by expanding or turning over the WR room. Mahomes needs better O-line play and one deep threat, that's it. Defense is set.
Yeah, and who wouldn’t want to play for the Chiefs right now? Best chance to get a ring
Many of those teams that did back to back did it in the no salary cap age, when it was MUCH easier to do and the parity was so much worse. Every major sport was way easier to be a dynasty 30+ years ago....
I would be shocked if the Chiefs don't go full throttle into the threepeat. 2025 doesn't matter. They will go down as one of the all time greats if they pull it off.
Let Chris Jones go if it gets too expensive, and use that money to tilt our strength more back toward offense and keep the rest of the key defensive players.
Mike Pennel was the highest graded DLineman on Sunday. If Jones walks, then it is what it is. Signing Sneed and preserving that DB core is more important into todays game
Love this take
Also, Drue,Sneed, whole D line.
How come no one from chiefs received an annual NFL award? I know why. Because they are a team not individuals. Together they are the best. Offense and Defense take care of each other.
Same with Andy. He didn’t sniff Coach of the year, but he coached his butt off this year.
Exactly why awards are overrated and ultimately mean nothing
Nicely done boys
The first Chiefs Rally was in a grade school gym with about 500 people there (It was crowded)
Tomorrow who knows
37 year fan....these are good times.
As a Chiefs fan I agree with what Rich is saying. Maybe don’t go all in as in using our future to get the perfect team but resign everyone you can most notably Jones and Sneed with contract restructuring and then you could use the draft to pick up extra talent for the future and maybe get a speedy receiver that’s dangerous enough to take the top off the defense so Rice and Kelce can open up more like it was with Tyreek. But even if they can’t get Jones to resign they could use the money to get a flashy receiver that’s more well known. I don’t have much worries we can really only get better from here offensively which was our biggest problem this year and at the most we lose the best defensive player we have which sounds like a big problem but others have stepped up big this year since they were on the team last year like Sneed, McDuffie, Bolton, Reid etc. so if anything we use the draft to try and replace him defensively. No matter which way it goes we can get better as a team and best believe no matter who’s in the wide receiver room next year Andy will make sure they play better than they did this year.
Update: Chris Jones says he’s staying for the next two years at least so we’ll see if that remains true if he has to take a pay cut but sounds like they’ve talked about it
i’m sure the chiefs, the most sustained franchise success in modern football, need Rich Eisens advice. the guy who picked the raiders last year. that guy
Lol why you here watching if you have that opinion?
The Chiefs have been in the playoffs 10 straight seasons Chris. Not 6. They were there 4 before Patrick
I think Jones' best years will be behind him. Maybe 1 more season in him before he starts declining. Sneed however is young. Pay him instead. Lockdown corners are a lot harder to replace than DT are.
I want to protect Sneed and McDuffie for a long time
sound dumb pay chris jones you speculating and not gibing fax.
The big man can play for 3 or 4 more years and be a force. Reggie White, Michael Strahan, Richard Hamilton, Freeney, Peppers...those guys were great till the day they hung it up. Chris Jones can play 3 more years at this level. There is nobody else that can fill that role. He deserves to make more than Donald right now, he's better. I agree that it will be tough it is also a truth that we are deep on the DL and I totally agree that resigning Sneed to a long term contract is a foregone conclusion, he must stay a Chief, priority #1.
Absolutely re-sign those key defensive players, but also clean up the wide receiver room. There is some dead weight they need to get rid of. If they go get another receiver, he has to be a capable guy who’s willing to take a prove-it deal like Juju did, it’s not going to be a big name guy who will want a huge pay day.
Your goal as GM is to win the Superbowl every year, not follow what the Patriots did. Luckily for KC there is so much they can do this off-season to create cap without losing anyone significant and many ways to manipulate the cap space.
They currently have $22m in cap space. I think it's a forgone conclusion they cut MVS to save $12m. Hopefully they can trade Toney for scraps which saves $2.5m. Justin Reid is on his last year of his contract. They can choose to extend him and give him a signing bonus for this season to free up cap or they could trade him to save $14m and let their 4th round pick last year in Conner take his spot, or they can cut him to save about $11m. Cutting a Justin Watson also saves $2m
Trav is coming back. He said he was
First off, I don't need any advice about football operations from a Jets fan. Second the plan is to be chasing rings every year with Pat. Selling out for one is stupid.
No, that’s how you end up not winning a Super Bowl for a decade. You give the bank to Jones, you give the bank to Sneed, things fall apart next year and then you’re screwed.
Keep doing your thing, Brett! If Kelce can play for $18m then certainly Jones can also play for $20m and not $30m+
Is it possible for the Chiefs to sign Mike Evans
He is a free agent and he could go wherever he wants. That would be a steal if they got him.
Or Tee Higgins. Whoever is willing to take a little less
I bet Cowboys, Vikings and Bills WRs are tired of losing in the playoffs. Gotta be many who would love to come to KC.
It’s possible but I’m not sure of their cap situation and they have to worry about not losing Chris Jones. Prolly gonna have to pay him like $30 million a year idk If they have much room to negotiate with other high profile free agents after that. That would be a deadly duo though mahomes and evans that would be nuts
If they get Mike evans it’s game over
Gooo chiefssssssssssss🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
What happened to Dru Tranquil??
Rich is my favorite objective media personnel. He always keeps it straight and doesn't beat around the bush. As a Chiefs fan we better go ALL OUT next year. Give Chris Jones a 2 year $60 million guaranteed deal, re-sign sneed and load up on receivers. We need a bona-fided #1. Tee Higgins on the Chiefs would be the sweetest revenge ever and D-Hop.
Review the tapes, figure your most valuable guys, keep them happy but reward the guys that preform consistently.
Chris Jones wrecked havoc on the oline but he's been pretty quiet during regular season. I don't know if you break the bank for him when that money could sure up harder to fill positions and try to draft someone
Whoever they draft likely won't have his impact in the postseason
Hey Brockman, Crtl + shift + t my friend. Or the apple variant if youre on mac, which escapes me at the moment. Will help with the recentlt closed window issue.
Don’t you worry..They don’t need your advice..Thanks
The Chiefs next Season, will be Andy Reid's Magnum Opus. They'll more than likely get a WR, they have a great Defense, that is still very youthful. They might have went through arguably the toughest gauntlet of opponents to get and win the Superbowl. Next Season, the Chiefs will join Teams like the 85 Bears, 84 9ers, 91 Redskins in contention for the Greatest Team of All Time.
I agree, Go all in Chiefs! 3-Peat! Kelce ain't getting any younger. He is a key component of the offense.
Sign Jason Kelce and slide Creed into Thuney's position. Sign Mike Evans and Eckler. Resign Sneed and Drew Tranquil. Figure out the rest as you go.
Cut JT and put Thuney at LT and use the 80 million for Chris Jones.
@@georgecosrove3651 can't cut Taylor. It's a 38 million dollar cap hit. He's here 2 more seasons
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Ugh. lol.
No disrespect to all the elite wide receivers out there. The Chiefs need Chris Jones more. Give the man the money. Watching him reminded me of Aaron Donald of the Rams and Von Miller of the Broncos in the other Super Bowls.
They could’ve just as easily given the game MVP to Jones & McDuffy (sp?) jointly. Shoulda paid him…🤦🏽♂️
What about doing the ultimate. A three peat undefeated
That would make the the chiefs the best team of all time and Patty would be the goat no question and I wouldn’t listen to any debates ever in life. 😂 and I’m a Bucs fan
I'm sure when Reid retires, there will be an ABUNDANCE of good/great HC/OC willing to come to KC for the opportunity to coach Mahomes. Coaching wise i believe the Chiefs will be fine for the entirety of Mahomes career.
Plus, Spags is there.
Travis has to want to come back to try for a 3 peat. Someone that intense in the game isn't looking to check out after the SB. Although guys have to want to make the deal work to get that ring. I get money is money, I would want that ring. Jordan said it at the end of the Last Dance. He wanted that ring.
For all the media meat heads saying Kelce has slowed down, he recorded his FASTEST run of his career on Sunday.
Chiefs lost there big contract genius I think his name is Tillis. It's not going to be as easy. Heck it's not going to be easy anyway. Andy is my age and I know he still has gas in the tank if his health and his family stays good and behind him. This is so great as a LONG time Chiefs fan. I seen the first SB we won as a young boy with a red cheep plastic helmet I painted an arrowhead on the side of it. Wow that was a long time ago.
A lot of good points made in this comment section. Remember, the Chiefs have been killing it in the draft as of late, getting guys like McDuffie, Rice, Pacheco, Sneed, Bolton, and others. As well, they've at times made strategic trades of talented young stars to gain draft capital to keep killing it in the draft. Although I won't be around to see Pat's last Super Bowl, I was around to see the first Chiefs SB loss and win. 3 peat would be nice, but KC wants 10 of 'em! Veach has the right process........stay the course......
This is a franchise that had one playoff win from 1993-2016. Now they have three Super Bowls in five years.
Unbelievable.
“Go all in” doesn’t elaborate what he means by that at all
Go all in! Great advice, Rich. Don’t know why I bother to click and watch this guy
My point exactly. The biggest critic of the Chiefs!! He's giving advice for them to ask for more money, so they can dismantle.
Andy has done well his entire career without going all-in. Doesnt need to here. You are WRONG RICH
Keep Reid, Mahomes, Jones, Sneed together then get another WR next season would be my advice for KC.
Don't forget Taylor.
Jones is going to be the hardest to keep.
They probably won’t keep Chris Jones
@Dr._Wan_PharmD Gotta add McDuffie to that list.
Duffie’s on the cheap for 3 more years. No need to worry about him.
Hopefully some players take cuts to shoot for the SB instead. Pull a Brady and get paid less to end up with more in the long run. I dont see everyone getting the phat bag. The desire for another SB will have to overcome the money needed. I feel some moves for a Vet WR1 will be made this offseason.
It looks like Mahomes will restructure his contract to free up cap space. He makes $45 million in advertising and that figure will grow substantially due to this SB win.
Yep, Mahomes' contract is the problem. He needs to restructure and focus on funding the rest of the team
What I wanted to hear, is the reaction of Joe Montana.
With Payton refining the Broncos, Harbaugh tapping into Herbert and Pierce getting the Raiders to believe in themselves, plust the way they looked in the regular season this year, it will be harder. Not that the Chiefs won’t win the AFC West, it’s just going to be way more competitive moving forward.
I feel like we say this every year and it never happens
very foolish to assume the Chiefs are going to have the same regular season next year
Dude. The Broncos, Raiders, and Chargers all STINK lol
Who is playing QB for the Broncos?
Broncos and raiders have no QB and the chiefs offense is never gonna be this bad again.
You know, back when I was a younger man, teams that won 2 Super Bowls in a row never wanted to win a third. In fact, they would publicly announce that they were planning to chill out and relax next season.
They won’t compromise long term. Not their style
Chiefs definitely need a true number 1 for a 3 peat. We don’t need to go the hardest road to the SB again
Chiefs may not have needed a number 1 wr this year, but it was a little too close for comfort. Draft or sign a WR to help Rice please lol.
From now the KC Chief will continue to win Super Bowls 25, 26, 27, etc it’s had been declared “The Dynasty”
So they're going back in time and winning Superbowls 25, 26 and 27 ?? Wow, well THAT definitely hasn't been done before !!
the Patriots least kept secret is that they had a knack for letting guys go a year early as opposed to a year late. They were usually right too
Brady never had to face this amount of talent for his entire career. Mahomes will have to face Burrow, Allen, Stroud and Herbert for the next 12-15 years
Brady had the luck to play in the AFC East for decade plus when there was no competition. Jets Dolphins Bills were deadbeats as franchises. Easy road to playoffs with multiple byes. AFC West is just getting more intense, all going in and Chiefs might not get a first round bye in the foreseeable future.
The rest of the west seems like they're getting better, but then every year, they suck. People said the same thing when russ went to the Broncos and the same when devante went to Raiders.
That's three/sixes.. parade 🎉 tomorrow 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Jim Harbaugh ends this madness next season. JUST10 HERBERT, 2024 MVP confirmed ⚡️
Not likely to end that soon. Harbaugh couldn't beat his brother and his brother is a disciple of Andy Reid..
Herbert MVP is possible
KC doesn't have to go all in , they have a young offense and defense just need to resign Jones , Sneed , gay and tranquil and draft another WR in first Rd ..mahomes already said he will rework his deal to keep all the guys .
I often wonder how Tyreek Hill feels as he watches his former team play in and win two consecutive Super Bowls. Is the money worth the anguish of sitting on the beach sipping a drink with three beauties, or would you rather be playing in the Super Bowl? Also, if you are Chris Jones do you want to play on a team with Patrick Mahomes or someone else?
You guys listed all the teams that have won back to back Super Bowls except the Niners, who did so in the '88 and '89 seasons. Let's also not forget that they were poised to win 3 in a row the following season when, as the #1 seed, they lost to the Giants, who badly injured Montana, knocked him out of the game and changed his career forever.
Back to back to back that’s what’s next!!!!!!
Chiefs gave $22+ million in cap space now. Pat’s contract has flexibility to free up about $26 million, and release MVS for another 12 million
Patriots dynasty got a lot of help from team-friendly contracts with Brady. Brady knew what he was doing, and wanted enough money to be wisely spent to keep putting a team capable of Super Bowls around him. Unlike the NBA & MLB, the NFL has an absolute, no getting around it hard salary cap. It is easy to say "pay them all" but that can become fiscally impossible. KC suffered heavily losing Tyreek Hill, but they didn't have the cap space to keep everyone. Hard choices and smart draft choices are often the only way to stay under a hard salary cap.
Losing Tyreek though saved them a lot of money to use elsewhere and draft picks to build their defense. So Chiefs need to continue to be smart about who to resign, who to trade, and who to let go.
Chiefs do not go all in for one year. They are building to compete every year, like the patriots. Going all in is for one and done teams, not dynasties
Why would Andy ever leave anytime in the next decade when he has the opportunity to become the greatest coach of all time?
They shouldn't mortgage it all for a 3 peat. Honestly. I'd tag and trade either Chris Jones(About to turn 30), or L'Jarious Snead(27 year old corner about to get paid top of the league salary at corner). Let the other one walk. You get draft capital from one you trade, and the one you let walk(Free agency competitive pick 3rd round). You trust your scouting department that's already done amazing in their recent past of scouting players. Remember that Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith, Trent McDuffie, and George Karlaftis to get resigned in the next 2 years. Don't kill your future cap on it. Keep the Super Bowl window open for 5-7 more years, rather than making the window wide open for only 2 more years tops. It's cap negligence to pay both Snead, and Chris Jones. You pay Butker, and Drue Tranquil. You let Willie Gay walk, you let one of Snead and Chris Jones walk, and you tag and trade the other.
Congrats to Taylor Swift! She picked a winner and glad she will get a ring. Well deserved. Go Swifties!
Not everyone going ti be greedy on his own than the Team and QB... Best in NFL QB going for 3, 4, 5, 6... Post season bonuses and Superbowl checks and rings.. History!
Heres the thing. Money talks.... Hunt family has it. $24.8B worth. Chiefs give jones what they can, Hunt gives a check of the difference
Surely that cant be how it works. Whats the point of the salary cap if the owner can just do a side deal with his players?
Hahaha Broncos tried that. They got caught.
Im sure they'll go half in next year
Got to resign Chris Jones, and bring back the Defense. Probably will draft another WR like Rice, but I would say also be open to signing a veteran WR to a 1 year deal like they did with JuJu two seasons ago. Let's go!!!
Do whatever it takes to keep Jones and Sneed. 3-peat, then reload. Take a year or two off of the long season. Go back and do it again.
Get rid of sky and Toney.
Pay Sneed, Jones , Gay , Tranquil. Keep the rest of the squad. Might loose a few 2nd stringers on D.
Veach will scoop up some prospects. Hopefully a WR1. Along with Rice.
Get JuJu back or a T Higgins.
Threepeat is in our sites. I'll be watching to see what is done.
There’s more than one way to win again. I’d rather they improve the WR corp, have the top offense and a #10 defense. Be number 1 for TD in the Red Zone. If Jones fits with a #1 offense, great! If not, ok.
You missed the Niners two in the row and the closest to getting a three peat.
For some reason this was the first one that came to my mind
chiefs as a team were going to playoffs before mahomes
Chiefs with Alex Smith at QB and Andy Reid went 1-3 in the playoffs before Mahomes. That's why they drafted Mahomes to take them to the next level. And boy did he...
Go all in, because you have a chance for football immortality. which is better than football longevity.
Would bill Belichick pay chris jones, highly doubtful
2 positions the patriots would pay, QB and nose tackle. The Patriots did pay vince Wolfolk, he played 11 years with the pats.
Also where you're talking Chiefs/Patriots, the year that Brady was hurt in the first game of the year, was against the Chiefs!
A 3pete would be amazing but I'm not sure i would be willing to sell the future for it. It's still far from guaranteed even if you do. I guess it's just a question of priorities. Is a potential 3pete worth a couple down years with cap problems? Especially when they've proven that they can win on a budget.
Imagine what they could do if Mahomes did what Ohtani did with the Dodgers and deferred all but $2
million a year of his salary. They could keep everyone...and really piss off Tyreek Hill.
Solution recipe for 2024 & 2025- sign Chris to a reasonable contract ~22-25m or let him go, restructure Mahomes contract to reduce cap hit by ~25m, sign another stud defensive back for Chris for 10-15m, pay up Sneed and retain, sign up strong WR1 and another WR…done. Rebuild 2026 onwards.
Pay Jones (but include more incentives), Kelce, Sneed. I think we could keep MVS for roughly the same contract. Restructure Mahomes. Sneed may have to go, but if he does, we need to pay another good wr
Missed the 49ers on the list of teams that went back to back