Stephen A. has a problem with Horace Grant's Michael Jordan 'snitch' comments | First Take

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2020
  • Stephen A. Smith breaks down why he takes issue with former Chicago Bulls PF Horace Grant's comments about Michael Jordan and "The Last Dance."
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  • @motivationfactory9916
    @motivationfactory9916 4 года назад +169

    I watched the whole documentary. Spent the entire weekend analyzing hours of old bulls NBA footage, and Horace Grant post game interviews. And my final conclusion is...Stephen A gotta do something about that moustache

  • @vinh1351
    @vinh1351 4 года назад +278

    ESPN defending an ESPN doc

    • @ike.o6944
      @ike.o6944 4 года назад +3

      Disgruntled Klutch perfect way to put it.

    • @vinnythewebsurfer
      @vinnythewebsurfer 4 года назад +19

      With Jordan having the final say on every single inch of film. This is not a objective autobiography. It’s Jordan doc, it’s a fluff piece to boost his reputation. Money doesn’t matter when this documentary is going to be used by his followers to spread his image and influence like catholic missionaries.

    • @Henry-tp5bm
      @Henry-tp5bm 4 года назад +3

      vinnythewebsurfer bro the man went 6/6 in the finals in 8 years, that’s the essence of the doc and nothings changing that

    • @michaeljordanfansaretheworst
      @michaeljordanfansaretheworst 4 года назад +8

      The strange thing is it's not even a documentary then .

    • @WalkingthroughNYC
      @WalkingthroughNYC 4 года назад +2

      But who did Jordan snitch on? And did Pippin not do those things?

  • @damienbecton2994
    @damienbecton2994 4 года назад +180

    Thanks for not showing Jay William's portion. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

    • @showguy8701
      @showguy8701 4 года назад +2

      Just cut max after 90 seconds

    • @docj7631
      @docj7631 4 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Nahyoutrippin
      @Nahyoutrippin 4 года назад

      Rambling

    • @robertwhyte3591
      @robertwhyte3591 4 года назад +18

      Why you say that fam? LOL... I don't rock with buddy either,he was nice at Duke,but now he try to act and speak like he a Hall of Famer

    • @paulmann5328
      @paulmann5328 4 года назад +2

      @@robertwhyte3591 BIG FACTS!!!💯

  • @rahasungodzra
    @rahasungodzra 4 года назад +179

    SAS i just got off the phone with Jordan 5 minutes ago and here's what he told me

    • @EricK-ir8np
      @EricK-ir8np 4 года назад +3

      @Wilt Chamberlain GOD of NBA Yeah he's lying!! They in the same fraternity, and he has interviewed him before, and he goes to Jordan's parties, but he doesn't know him!!! You sound STUPID!!

    • @thelckr3829
      @thelckr3829 4 года назад +1

      He got it from Skip 😂

    • @vinnythewebsurfer
      @vinnythewebsurfer 4 года назад +6

      I swear Jordan could call SaS and Skip Bayless and tel them to watch out for rain indoors and they’d believe him and get out their umbrellas.

    • @anthonymckinley1380
      @anthonymckinley1380 4 года назад +1

      Lmaooo

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 4 года назад +83

    Yes this was no secret. The NBA in the 70s and early 80s had a massive cocaine problem. And Jordan was ASKED that question. And yet he didn't mention any names whatsoever.
    Horace Grant will never understand what Michael Jordan had to deal with when he first got into the league, and that cocaine circus scene gave a lot of perspective about the horrible state of the Bulls in the 80s.

    • @rahmelg
      @rahmelg 4 года назад +8

      In the doc he did say pretty much the whole team tho

    • @saidullah146
      @saidullah146 4 года назад +6

      what MJ did is called dry snitching but yes he technically did snitch

    • @wilsonbrito9565
      @wilsonbrito9565 Год назад

      @@saidullah146 so what are they gonna get banned from the nba, are they gonna go to jail and he still didnt mention any names and it was no secrets too that the nba in 80s had a drug problem

  • @tjmatthews3231
    @tjmatthews3231 4 года назад +46

    Stephen A. “When you look at that perspective” Smith

    • @willritter4076
      @willritter4076 4 года назад +1

      this Jordan infomercial shows 1 more time that ESPN is fake journalism... as if we didn't know that already.

  • @BigmoneyBrickwall
    @BigmoneyBrickwall 4 года назад +30

    “MJ just whispered something into my ear and here’s what he told me”

  • @CoolTy23
    @CoolTy23 4 года назад +84

    Jay Williams & Stephen A not tryna be on Jordan’s bad side like Charles Barkley

    • @stephenasunnamedsource2943
      @stephenasunnamedsource2943 4 года назад +13

      Nah its just the truth. Everyone knew athletes were doing Coke in the 80s. That was common knowledge. Do your own research instead of forming your opinion through these guys

    • @msr187
      @msr187 4 года назад +6

      @@stephenasunnamedsource2943 well said but grant was king rat got jealous and leaked everything with a few others

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 4 года назад +8

      Nah, stupid idiots just don't know the meaning of the word snitch. Horace Grant is soft and a SNITCH. He said he wasn't the only informant for Sam Smith. So he essentially snitched on himself about snitching. Then he piggybacked Craig Hodges' comments about Jordan telling about their drug use, when he mentioned no names. Horace wasn't even on the team back then. So why is he even commenting o
      about that? The dude is soft and mad because he got exposed for being punked by Jordan on the plane when he told Horace he couldn't eat.... and Horace did not eat. He didn't stand up for himself. His manhood was taken and everyone knows. That's why he's woofing now. Where was all your energy on the plane, bruh? Smh... this dude and Craig Hodges are just mad at the truth.

    • @-a-cb-l9000
      @-a-cb-l9000 4 года назад

      Exactly!

    • @firstnamelastname9215
      @firstnamelastname9215 4 года назад +7

      Jordan is soft asf and just wants a bunch of yes man. He manipulates people and if someone tells him something that is not what he wants to hear then he unfriends him.

  • @atom0824
    @atom0824 4 года назад +76

    Max bringing up kobe and LeBron for no reason

    • @sumnahlennon4516
      @sumnahlennon4516 4 года назад +5

      They still can't talk about MJ without bringing them up for some reason.

    • @AndrewAleSininingFajardo1
      @AndrewAleSininingFajardo1 4 года назад +3

      HAHAHAHA. He must say something to fill up the minutes. Respect the work man.

    • @atom0824
      @atom0824 4 года назад +6

      @@AndrewAleSininingFajardo1 lol fr he's just rambling on to kill time.

    • @sumnahlennon4516
      @sumnahlennon4516 4 года назад +2

      @@AndrewAleSininingFajardo1 LOL True

    • @perrywashington2191
      @perrywashington2191 4 года назад +3

      He does it all the time

  • @theslayer2360
    @theslayer2360 4 года назад +113

    Stephen A Smith defending MJ as usual. What's new

    • @joshisaac2790
      @joshisaac2790 4 года назад +15

      Mr Xavier 😂😂. He’ll defend that man against Jesus Christ himself smh

    • @Firestorm2814Sector
      @Firestorm2814Sector 4 года назад +3

      You must not know what the definition of a snitch is

    • @chewyismycopilot788
      @chewyismycopilot788 4 года назад +11

      @@joshisaac2790 Jesus Christ didn’t win 6 rings

    • @zendo09
      @zendo09 4 года назад +1

      @@Firestorm2814Sector he doesn't know it 😂😂😂

    • @derrinwilson6156
      @derrinwilson6156 4 года назад +10

      All oldheads defend Jordan for everything

  • @marrzy
    @marrzy 4 года назад +106

    All sports in the 70’-90’s we’re drug infested

    • @nkwakutoure
      @nkwakutoure 4 года назад +2

      So was all network tv channels and all politicians and all of hollywood.

    • @franbatista9062
      @franbatista9062 4 года назад +2

      Now even more.

    • @DD-sw1dd
      @DD-sw1dd 4 года назад +4

      70’s and 80’s.
      90’s not so much.

    • @hushg2000
      @hushg2000 4 года назад +1

      At the end of the 80s is had come an end. 90s no way ...

    • @ShogunX11
      @ShogunX11 4 года назад +1

      @@hushg2000 more or less the 90s were more about steroids than narcotics

  • @The_Niburu
    @The_Niburu 4 года назад +23

    The doc was about mj and the team as well good and bad and this includes the front office,, michael wasnt shown in the best of light throughout the documentary and the footage showed his relationship with scottie throughout the documentary which was mostly good,, I never saw mj chastising scottie,, give it the eye test,, whats the problem

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 года назад +1

      Great overall point 🎯

    • @toveychow3635
      @toveychow3635 4 года назад +2

      ppl today are sensitive and political correctness. Whining.

    • @ShogunX11
      @ShogunX11 4 года назад

      Something to complain about since the league is on hiatus

    • @CoutureThug
      @CoutureThug 4 года назад

      He was dry snitching plain and simple

  • @phillipmoore6249
    @phillipmoore6249 4 года назад +59

    How do you have a problem with it. You weren’t there. He clearly knows more

    • @perrywashington2191
      @perrywashington2191 4 года назад +3

      Big facts there are drugs in every major league but Stephen A truly acts like he was in the room

    • @Logical281
      @Logical281 4 года назад +1

      Didn’t you hear? Stephen a has many close friends

    • @EricK-ir8np
      @EricK-ir8np 4 года назад +7

      You sound STUPID TOO!! He didn't have to be there!! We all heard what Jordan said when he was asked a question!! He answered the question without naming names, and Grant called him a snitch!! Which MJ was not doing!! How do you not understand that???

    • @phillipmoore6249
      @phillipmoore6249 4 года назад +7

      Efo- Baby yeah imma listen to you or the dudes that were there. Lmao

    • @NJoysGaming
      @NJoysGaming 4 года назад

      Wenatchee Hoosier RIGHT!

  • @sammymorales6838
    @sammymorales6838 4 года назад +159

    Stephen A needs to fire whoever trims his mustache

  • @faison514
    @faison514 4 года назад +8

    Horace doesn't realize nobody is gonna care about him a week from now. All those people itching to call him and get his opinion are gonna stop calling. He's doing all this but also wants us to believe he never told Sam Smith anything

    • @MrGenexxx
      @MrGenexxx 4 года назад +1

      Horace knows all that. He clearly got paid to start this little beef.

  • @sirdul
    @sirdul 4 года назад +22

    Jordan not wrong but Stephen A be talking like Jordan is his God

  • @JodeciJones
    @JodeciJones 4 года назад +21

    Lol @ Max saying the Magic aren’t allowed to be excited they beat Jordan. Lol @ everyone trying to de-legitimize players beefs with Jordan. It’s ok for these guys to not like him. Or have personal issues with him and Jordan may be in the wrong. None of those things make Jordan less great

    • @troyduffie3836
      @troyduffie3836 4 года назад +2

      Josh Jones he has to be perfect in every way for them

    • @michaelinkpen4188
      @michaelinkpen4188 4 года назад +2

      @@troyduffie3836, he has to be considered the greatest despite all his flaws. Many anti fans of him try to blowout of proportion any or all flaws he had so they can boost others into the goat position. Which is wrong and many who are fans of him won't sit idly by when this is happening.

    • @ballhogelite
      @ballhogelite 4 года назад +2

      Yea they are disrespecting other men just to worship another man... They will attack anybody who threatens Jordan in anyway shape or form... Right or wrong

    • @jeffness88
      @jeffness88 4 года назад +3

      @@ballhogelite i think it's the other way around specially the infamous 3-6 mafia who keeps attacking MJ's legacy so the other dude's legacy will look good 😂😂

    • @ballhogelite
      @ballhogelite 4 года назад

      @@jeffness88 Both failed at times but dont you notice nobody brings up jordans fails? Lebrons fails are mentioned everyday

  • @amaan.a
    @amaan.a 4 года назад +36

    You don't become the greatest of all time without any collateral damage.

    • @jeffness88
      @jeffness88 4 года назад

      yup if you want to be the greatest, you have to the price 🐐💪. Today they want to go easy and shortcuts to get there but in the end they can't pay the price 🤦

  • @csteed1480
    @csteed1480 4 года назад +4

    I find it interesting that some wanna focus on Jordan talking about the drug activity that took place his first to years but no one's giving him props for not getting involved with drugs. Him making that decision as a rookie shows great character. Instead people wanna call him a snitch. And Horace just wanted his name to be on more people's mind. He still has an issue with all the attention Jordan gets but yet he made a statement on another interview where he basically said the Bulls wouldn't have done nothing without MJ.

  • @lifeinthenight8613
    @lifeinthenight8613 4 года назад +62

    Stephen A had a problem with Pippen, Barkley and Isaiah's comments when it was "against" MJ lol! Of course he has a problem with Horace Grant's comment as well!

    • @michaeljordanfansaretheworst
      @michaeljordanfansaretheworst 4 года назад +6

      ESPN is a zombie land for Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan fans are the worst NBA fans and Smith is the worst Michael Jordan fan in the news waters .

    • @unapologetic6627
      @unapologetic6627 4 года назад +2

      Michael Jordan fans are the worst NBA fans then stfu

    • @ausar09
      @ausar09 4 года назад +2

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst No ESPN is the PRO LEBRON network

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 года назад +1

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Wrong ❌

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 года назад +1

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst 😒 Le3and6 fans are obnoxious❗

  • @jlv3x
    @jlv3x 4 года назад +3

    The Last Dance was mostly about the second three peat of Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. Grant wasn't there in the beginning in 1984 or in 1998. Grant was in the documentary for only a short time because he wasn't part of the Last Dance. We Bulls fans love Horace for what he did while he was with the Bulls, but he has always seemed to have a problem with how Jordan and Pippen were treated. They were the All-Stars and part of the Dream Team that's the why elite players are treated, no surprise.

  • @allergictofollowing
    @allergictofollowing 4 года назад +26

    2020 THE YEAR OF CANT DEFEND YOURSELF

    • @rob141
      @rob141 4 года назад

      Must bow to the media narrative

    • @michaeljordanfansaretheworst
      @michaeljordanfansaretheworst 4 года назад +4

      Unless it's Michael Jordan then the Michael Jordan fans have no issue with it .

    • @MisterTurner-ex1fv
      @MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 года назад

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst 😏 Get lost 🏃‍♂️ hater 😡

    • @ATL1995
      @ATL1995 4 года назад

      then your name should be " Michael Jordan haters are dumbasses". It has a better ring to it

    • @allergictofollowing
      @allergictofollowing 4 года назад

      @Aaron9 I seen Grant Play him and his Brother went Pro for a reason.

  • @epiccollision
    @epiccollision 4 года назад +27

    Fools tripping over the word “snitch”...grow up. You’re snitching on yourself.

  • @sixtieskid062
    @sixtieskid062 4 года назад +3

    As many have said before, "Don't hate the player.hate the game."

  • @intellectualblackking162
    @intellectualblackking162 4 года назад +6

    The word snitch implies that he got someone in trouble for his comments but he didn’t he was just telling the truth... also a snitch implies he was involved in the activities as well. Horace needs to just take his L or he need to do his own doc or help write a book about his perspective... oh wait.

    • @ImNotFVDED
      @ImNotFVDED 4 года назад +3

      The word snitch doesn’t imply people got in trouble. You can snitch and nothing come of it.

    • @epiccollision
      @epiccollision 4 года назад

      I’m Not Faded Anymore yall be tripping about the word snitch, grow up children.

    • @kevinmcgregor2917
      @kevinmcgregor2917 4 года назад +1

      epiccollision speak for yourself kiddo.

    • @mattmmixes
      @mattmmixes 4 года назад +1

      I’m Not Faded Anymore yeah but it was already common knowledge Jordan and most of the late 70s early 80s stars were playing with crackheads, he didn’t mention names either.

    • @followthebrickroad6518
      @followthebrickroad6518 4 года назад

      Mattmmixes Didn't he say practically his whole team was doing Coke ?

  • @davidowens2067
    @davidowens2067 4 года назад +16

    Wait, isn’t this a Documentary coming from MJ’s perspective? Didn’t know it was snitching when you didn’t name any of the players. It’s sort of like saying actors did a lot of coke in the 70’s. It’s widely known.

    • @julesword3412
      @julesword3412 4 года назад +3

      It's called dry snitching however he is the apparently the goat so you can allow him this blip.

  • @NotExplicable
    @NotExplicable 4 года назад +53

    Grant: Wahhhh
    Jordan: Stop it, get some help.

    • @suxgaming1273
      @suxgaming1273 4 года назад +2

      lol

    • @koreypaul6698
      @koreypaul6698 4 года назад +2

      🤣

    • @michaeljordanfansaretheworst
      @michaeljordanfansaretheworst 4 года назад +9

      It's amazing how you Michael Jordan fans are so in love with Michael Jordan

    • @koreypaul6698
      @koreypaul6698 4 года назад +15

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst It's amazing how you created an account about and for MJ and think about Jordan more than his fans looool!

    • @NotExplicable
      @NotExplicable 4 года назад +6

      @@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Stop it get some help.

  • @ausar09
    @ausar09 4 года назад +12

    I been saying Jordan ain't said nothing everybody ain't already knew

    • @ballhogelite
      @ballhogelite 4 года назад

      How do you know?

    • @trowabarton321
      @trowabarton321 4 года назад

      @@ballhogelite bulls fans already knew about all of this. None of this was new to us lol. I want to know why Horace was talking about the Chicago traveling cocaine circus. He wasn't even there lol.

  • @reasedogable
    @reasedogable 4 года назад +2

    That following season the Bulls added Rodman after they loss to Orlando,Max never mentions that ,that was the biggest factor

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +10

    "If you don't want to play that way, then don't play that way."
    Horace got 3 rings, got $50M in Orlando, a 4th ring in LA. But go whine it's biased! 🤣

  • @Rspectre75
    @Rspectre75 4 года назад +3

    As it relates to the "snitching", Jordan didn't name names. It was telling part of his experience as a member of the Bulls. But, like Stephen A. said, you could easy do a search online to find out who was on the roster for his rookie season.
    Another thought, I can understand Horace Grant objecting to accusations made against him or talking about his years with the Bulls for this miniseries documentary. That's his right.
    However, I think Horace should have left those "snitching" comments alone. Why is he getting mad about that? He was a sophomore in Clemson while Jordan was a NBA rookie. That's none of his business. He needs to focus on his time in the NBA from 1987 and forward.

  • @bullshark3000
    @bullshark3000 4 года назад +2

    the interviewer asked MJ about the phrase "travelling cocaine circus" , MJ said it was the first time he heard that name and laughed, then he told the story about going into one of the players hotel room and seeing all the drugs and women. He didn't just talk about that out of the blue to snitch on people.. he also didn't mention any names.

  • @celebritytarotreadings7065
    @celebritytarotreadings7065 4 года назад +8

    Don''t upload this video if there isnt' a part II to it or a continuation. I'm tired of your shi with this, ESPN.

  • @tommytee6290
    @tommytee6290 4 года назад +3

    SAS will NEVER deviate from the company line... the fact that ANYONE takes him seriously as a "journalist" is laughable

    • @Hatedj
      @Hatedj 4 года назад

      How can't you? He's been validate by his peers and probably the people you respect more then him already. 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @ajfrancisco7726
    @ajfrancisco7726 4 года назад +11

    What Grant and Hodges are saying is nothing new during that time, it was widely known, I don't get why they got pissed

  • @riverofcustard3233
    @riverofcustard3233 4 года назад +26

    SAS is Jordan's waterboy

    • @AAAGameVids
      @AAAGameVids 4 года назад +7

      Lebron is Jordan's waterboy.

    • @j.blu2
      @j.blu2 4 года назад

      quietstormNC no cap

    • @sederickoliver8957
      @sederickoliver8957 4 года назад

      quietstormNC you obsessed

    • @mattmmixes
      @mattmmixes 4 года назад +2

      The rest of ESPN blindly follows Lebron so it’s a change of course. This is why I miss the SAS Skip Bayless duo.

  • @tke27
    @tke27 4 года назад +1

    Horace got hurt the first game of that series and never returned. Nick Anderson was hurt and Shaq was battling injuries and contract issues during that playoff series. MJ didn't have his legs in shape. Bottom line is that everyone has issues going on in a playoff series. If you gonna give MJ the "he is not in best shape" excuse then you gotta recognize the Magic excuses as well. Keep that same energy.

  • @josiahyue7452
    @josiahyue7452 4 года назад +35

    Tbh Horace has a point, I mean Michael wouldn’t even let the man eat after games lol

    • @kobeforever-hokage5471
      @kobeforever-hokage5471 4 года назад +26

      And that’s why he has no room to talk, u let another grown man tell you not to eat.

    • @demarr5811
      @demarr5811 4 года назад +14

      Another man that’s smaller than you at that 🤣🤣🤣😂

    • @marleyl2751
      @marleyl2751 4 года назад +1

      That story is fake you know...

    • @followthebrickroad6518
      @followthebrickroad6518 4 года назад +2

      He specifically didn't let Horace eat ?

    • @bhavikupadhyaya972
      @bhavikupadhyaya972 4 года назад +6

      @@kobeforever-hokage5471 Horace wanted to fight him but then a teammate said Michael will cry to Krause and get Horace cut Horace said that to Shannon Sharpe

  • @ps5andseriesx
    @ps5andseriesx 4 года назад +18

    Horace Grant still mad Jordan didn't let him eat after having a bad game. He should of snorted a line of coke and bust Jordan up side the head. They would be best friends now if they fought a long time ago.

  • @lando6486
    @lando6486 4 года назад

    Lol he starts off so calm in the beginning

  • @lemar2122
    @lemar2122 4 года назад +16

    I love Jordan as much as the next, but I can't wait until they stop talking about this documentary. Everyday for 5 weeks all we've been hearing about is Jordan. He's a man who got paid to put a ball in a hole. People acting like he saved the world from coronavirus..

    • @joscaca
      @joscaca 4 года назад +4

      Better than the daily topics on LeBron !

    • @KGR4NT
      @KGR4NT 4 года назад

      I'm with u...over it.

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 4 года назад +8

      Bro after being constantly have Lebron shoved down our throats every single day, 5 weeks of Jordan is a vacation

    • @IntangibleBlurr
      @IntangibleBlurr 4 года назад

      @@eddydede4275 not really a vacation when they use it as an excuse to have the same Goat debate

    • @darrellknight8837
      @darrellknight8837 4 года назад +1

      He did save Chicago from being one of the Biggest losers ever

  • @rickymartinez6821
    @rickymartinez6821 4 года назад

    90's bulls still clutch af right now for ESPN. They got material for the next 9 months.

  • @abdiver12
    @abdiver12 4 года назад +2

    I lived through the entire Jordan era and watched every one of his championship runs when I was in my 20's. I absolutely love this documentary and think its fair and thorough. People may complain that its too Jordan-centric but let's face it, he was the face of the Bulls, the NBA, and even America during that period. It doesn't white wash his image either, bringing up the "Republicans buy sneakers too" comment (which pissed me off back then) as well as his gambling problem.

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +3

    I believe Horace doesn't watch a lot of documentaries. All of them are biased and sound like an infomercial. The Last Dance is actually the least biased from all the Michael Jordan docs I've seen.

  • @Kig_Ama
    @Kig_Ama 4 года назад +29

    Come on, we all know Stephen A. is a first ballot MJ dxxx rider.

    • @yurswagg
      @yurswagg 4 года назад

      Yemi he didn’t even mention Lebron

  • @kevincooper4311
    @kevincooper4311 4 года назад +5

    Stephen A Smith stop making excuses for Michael Jordan thank you

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +8

    Jordan had many heroic basketball highlights. We want to watch that, ok? His many heroics far outweighs his flaws as a teammate. If you want to go make a doc about yourself, Horace, go ahead. Most of us won't care.

    • @EduFabolous
      @EduFabolous 4 года назад

      But is he wrong though ?

  • @raywhorton5989
    @raywhorton5989 4 года назад +2

    Horace Grant literally said that MJ was the Takashi of the 90s. You can break street code and still get more love than the streets do.

  • @amaan.a
    @amaan.a 4 года назад +9

    MJs greatness, as great as it is, is built on a mountain of bodies.. That 84' locker room and Horace Grant to name a few.

    • @mr.harambe2658
      @mr.harambe2658 4 года назад +2

      Bro those players were trash they cost MJ many potential chips cause they're addicted to cocaine.

    • @Mektek19
      @Mektek19 4 года назад +1

      The locker room in 84?

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady 4 года назад +2

      The 84 can answer for themselves. As a man, you real what you sow in life. MJ never named names. He made it vague enough that all his teammates can plausibly deny any of that when asked. That being said, if you did the stuff then just own up to it like a man. That's called integrity

    • @RL-ww5ev
      @RL-ww5ev 4 года назад

      @@mr.harambe2658 you can't say MJ did this or MJ did that and not give any credit to teammates when they win then put 100% of blame on said teammates when they lost during the 80s

    • @TheDefenseIsUpNext
      @TheDefenseIsUpNext 4 года назад

      @Ms Taylor
      That's dumb. You think how honest a player is as a person is based on what caliber of player they are. Not very sound reasoning there.

  • @bb1111116
    @bb1111116 4 года назад +1

    I'm not stopping Max. Orlando beat the Bulls with Jordan who was scoring up to 50 points a game. No excuses. They got beat. Why? Kenny Smith explained it. That Bull’s team didn't have a decent rebounder. They didn't have Grant and they didn't have Rodman yet. Jordan can't win a title without a good rebounder.

  • @GreenEnvy.
    @GreenEnvy. 4 года назад +1

    Am I the only one who doesn't get why David Stern is so hated? The man turned the league what it is today and yet would get good every time he handed out the Larry Obrien trophy. Am I missing something?

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +9

    Sam Smith goes on a podcast two weeks ago and talks about that "no food for Horace on the plane" story. Then Horace calls Shannon Sharpe last week and 100% confirms it. Obvious Horace is The Jordan Rules snitch.

  • @jayh4911
    @jayh4911 4 года назад +2

    According to Stephen & most people Jordan is exempt from criticism obviously.

  • @STell743
    @STell743 4 года назад

    Greenlee said that Horace feels like people are looking at those Bulls like a duo rather than a trio. I had a t-shirt that said Triple Threat Bulls which included Scottie, Mike, and Horace in 92. So real Bulls fans always respected what Horace brought.

    • @darrellknight8837
      @darrellknight8837 4 года назад

      Shawn Tell yet Horace Dissed the Bulls fans after he left by saying the Orlando fans were Far Better

  • @copyrightstrikez_bandit143
    @copyrightstrikez_bandit143 4 года назад +2

    Grant and Jordan put those differences aside tho. Won 3 rings in a row in amazing fashion despite this documentary shallow view. Period! Watching it during those years will never be replaced by this doc. I don't see this as ruining Grant, Pippen, Krause, etc. Its just Jordan's perspective and unseen behind the scene footage.

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 4 года назад +2

    This wasn’t a Bulls doc it was a Michael doc. Should have been called that. Jordan did no favors to co-champions Scottie and Horace. Very self serving endeavor. Shocking 😕

    • @sumnahlennon4516
      @sumnahlennon4516 4 года назад

      True, I have no problem with the documentary being an MJ documentary as I loved it but it should've been called an MJ documentary because the way they promoted it mislead everybody.

    • @stevec5275
      @stevec5275 4 года назад +1

      Jordan did no favors for Scottie and Horace? Really? MJ made them the winner and the player that they became. Isn't that enough as a pro basketball player? being a winner with the greatest player that ever lived?

  • @ladolcevita-lifestylechannel
    @ladolcevita-lifestylechannel 4 года назад +1

    Yes, for the record, that 94-95 Orlando team has no right to brag about beating the Bulls that year. Jordan literally was coming back, with virtually no warm-up, from a different professional sport that he was fully committed to for 18 months. He returns to basketball for 17 regular season games to get his endurance and legs under him, and is then thrust into the NBA playoffs. This MJ was in baseball shape, not basketball. You could tell his timing was a bit off and he would have greatly benefited from a full season, but he didn't get that. They were a .500 team until MJ came back and then they went 13-4. Incredible. Yes, Orlando got the best of them in the series, but their power forward was literally taken from the Bulls that season, in Horace. This was the Shaq/Penny team. Of course they should have won that series all things considered. I wouldn't be bragging about that. If anything, it shows just how amazing MJ was to be able to pull that off at all. Oh, and by the way, the next year, when things were situated...yeah, the Bulls demolished that same Orlando team in four games.

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +2

    Max talking about the 1995 East Semis at the end when Chicago lost in 6 to Orlando is a direct shot at Nick Wrong who keeps harping about that. Yet, Nick Wrong's LeBron lost to a much inferior Orlando team in 2009! 🤣

  • @GB-fk7eq
    @GB-fk7eq 4 года назад +1

    The 80s was the "Scarface" decade people. Cocaine wasn't only accepted for parties at Studio 54 but athletes like Lawrence Taylor in the NFL, Strawberry in MLB etc. It wasn't until the 90s that cocaine became an uncool thing to be involved with as the 80s ended with a spotlight on a growing crack cocaine problem.

  • @troyduffie3836
    @troyduffie3836 4 года назад +1

    Jordan got beat by a better team in ‘95. Thats the truth-they had no answer for Shaq and Horace. Jordan had a really good series BOTH years but they won the following year because
    A. Horace got hurt in Game 1
    B. They traded for Rodman in the offseason and now had interior help

  • @jasperbranch5322
    @jasperbranch5322 4 года назад

    Bill Russell was so dominant in college that after his performance for USF at the 1955 NCAA tournament two rule changes were enacted in college basketball, not the NBA: (1) The lane was widened from 6 to 12 feet to make it more difficult to pack in offensively, post up, etc.

  • @perrywashington2191
    @perrywashington2191 4 года назад +1

    Horace grant was right mike shouldn't have mentioned nothing about the cocaine use if it wasn't asked why speak on it

  • @RahimHenry
    @RahimHenry 3 месяца назад

    Max didn't mention that when the bulls swept Orlando the next year, it was also due to getting great trades, which included
    Dennis Rodman.

  • @bucktaylor7300
    @bucktaylor7300 4 года назад +1

    If u play and lose no excuses man. Max is so weak with that argument

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 4 года назад +1

    I never had a problem with Jordan bringing up the "cocaine circus" because the league had a major drug problem by the time he was drafted. I also don't have a problem with Grant coming to his own defense if what Jordan alleged isn't true.

  • @DIMP11
    @DIMP11 4 года назад

    For some reason, Orlando Woolridge, David Greenwood, Quintin Dailey and Sidney Green come to mind........

  • @joshuamihalik5157
    @joshuamihalik5157 4 года назад +2

    agree

  • @onidtubes
    @onidtubes 4 года назад +25

    I hope they release the uncut version of the last dance where it showed clips of horace grant being a whiny baby.

    • @scoptzZyNelibot
      @scoptzZyNelibot 4 года назад

      well i assume you've seen it so why don't you enlighten us on them

    • @Henry-tp5bm
      @Henry-tp5bm 4 года назад

      Tom Ball he’s probably seen clips of old games, where Horace is moping and being a whiny baby on the court

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 4 года назад +1

      Horace is a soft punk.

  • @rmtjr237
    @rmtjr237 4 года назад +1

    I heard about the dry use in the 80s ever since I learned of the Len Bias story. The Bulls roster in the 80s was no different than any other. Also I read that The Charolette Hornets has the most minorities employed in the front office and other staff capacities than any team in the NBA.

  • @marcosmartinez8088
    @marcosmartinez8088 4 года назад +1

    C'mon Max, the Bulls in 1995 lost because they didnt have a player to fill Grant's role in the Phil Jackson's system. They started to win championships again when they got Rodman to fill the role that Grant left. I believe MJ is one of the greatest players, but championships is a team success. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman/Grant knew their role in the Phil Jackson's system. Even if Michael was the best player in the Bulls and in the league, he needed Jackson, Pippen, Rodman and Grant to win championships, and they knew they needed MJ to win too. MJ was the most dominant player in the 80's in both ends of the floor, but he didnt start to win until the got Pippen and Grant developed as part of player core in the offensive triangle.

  • @1kinghaye
    @1kinghaye 4 года назад +1

    What's wrong with Horace, did he see how many persons were interviewed in the documentary. Why is he so pissed 💀😠

  • @ChrisMcKee087
    @ChrisMcKee087 4 года назад +18

    Was MJ lying or calling people out? He has always called people out throughout his professional career.

    • @gernblanston2905
      @gernblanston2905 4 года назад +4

      I think the difference here is that this was presented as a documentary and there appears no effort to contact and get the point of view of the people that Jordan was "calling out". So, was this a documentary or ten hours of propaganda? This goes back to what Ken Burns said in his criticism of the series. You can't let the subject have this much control over what is being presented and have it be called the truth. So, to present only one side of the story it falls more into propaganda and allows for people to call Jordan liar and it have some legitimacy.

    • @eddydede4275
      @eddydede4275 4 года назад

      our hair defies gravity so can we opinions vary

    • @louier2967
      @louier2967 4 года назад +2

      Gern Blanston it wasnt one sided though. They showed Horace saying it wasnt him

    • @Sticktothemodels
      @Sticktothemodels 4 года назад +1

      Gern Blanston The director himself said MJ never once told him what he could and can’t do, so the whole MJ has complete control narrative is worth nothing

    • @twizzy6760
      @twizzy6760 4 года назад

      M it’s called dry snitching.

  • @sowservesave9037
    @sowservesave9037 4 года назад

    Good to know Mike is giving it all away. He could have shared some with those who were on that "Dance" floor with him.

  • @telj1
    @telj1 4 года назад +12

    You can literally just look at that early 80s bulls roster and tell who was a sniffer.....

  • @slangx9684
    @slangx9684 4 года назад +1

    SAS loves to hear himself speak. Everyone else misses the point.

  • @moneyvatedentertainment
    @moneyvatedentertainment 4 года назад +7

    We wouldn’t be talking about Horace Grant if it wasn’t for Michael Jordan. He’s lucky he’s being remembered. Oh and he should thank Mike and Pip for the rings

    • @Nick-ru5ex
      @Nick-ru5ex 3 года назад +2

      If they had Horace in 95’ the magic wouldn’t have beaten them. They had to replace him with Rodman. To win again.

    • @marimari9791
      @marimari9791 3 года назад +1

      @@Nick-ru5ex if Jordan was back the full season Bulls will be ok even without Grant .

  • @Jay215maxx
    @Jay215maxx 4 года назад +1

    Question in was Horace in that room doing lines 👀

  • @seanin1990
    @seanin1990 4 года назад +3

    Orlando Woolridge and boys

  • @patalberta5493
    @patalberta5493 4 года назад

    You are wrong when you look at it from that perspective.

  • @ssj2tarble
    @ssj2tarble 4 года назад +11

    If Horace had a issue, he should have do so when he went to the magic. Not now

    • @deyemi-mabotobby9105
      @deyemi-mabotobby9105 4 года назад

      That true

    • @mrray7169
      @mrray7169 4 года назад +5

      But there wasn't a documentary back then.

    • @ssj2tarble
      @ssj2tarble 4 года назад

      @@mrray7169 it was in the newspapers and one of the main reasons why grant left the bulls.

    • @mrray7169
      @mrray7169 4 года назад

      @@ssj2tarble but now he's being ripped and it in front of the entire world

    • @ssj2tarble
      @ssj2tarble 4 года назад

      @@mrray7169 He was ripped then too albeit not as much. If any man (mj)stops you(horace) from eating and you allow it, it just shows how soft you are. A lot of people forget when the magic beat the bulls the carried grant off like a hero.

  • @hopeedwards5831
    @hopeedwards5831 4 года назад +1

    I need sports to come back quick because ESPN is SOOoooo boring and lame right now.

  • @iampioneer81
    @iampioneer81 4 года назад

    Yall keep saying that he didn't name names. They showed the TEAM PICTURE from that year during that part. That may have been even worse.

  • @ambalavanant
    @ambalavanant 4 года назад +1

    What happened to Molly? She looks like she just woke up

  • @AlexRamirez-tj4kg
    @AlexRamirez-tj4kg 4 года назад +1

    as a fan...all this means is that there were drugs around him and he stayed focused and out of it...that made him a step closer to GOAT!!

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад

    Someone who writes an autobiography or biography will have a bias. Someone who writes a biopic script or an article will have a bias. Opinions have biases. Memories aren't perfect and can be distorted or perceived differently.

  • @mr.roodypoo9454
    @mr.roodypoo9454 4 года назад +6

    widely known, who is he talking about?

    • @seanin1990
      @seanin1990 4 года назад +6

      Orlando Woolridge

    • @stevec5275
      @stevec5275 4 года назад

      @@seanin1990 add Quinton Daily to that list

  • @youngblood4127
    @youngblood4127 4 года назад +1

    I actually would love to see Jordan hire Scottie Pippen as head coach of the Hornets & Dennis Rodman as a defensive coach. Jerry West has actually offered Dennis a coaching position for the Clippers, he said this in an interview. While you're at it MJ bring in BJ Armstrong as General Manager, dude is very intelligent & articulate. This way y'all can live out y'all golden years & mend these broken friendships & get some Rings. Paxson, Horace, Scott Burrell, give these guys a Job & Build a Dynasty. I only mentioned the guys I'm certain would do it.

    • @TheDefenseIsUpNext
      @TheDefenseIsUpNext 4 года назад

      Lol. The Charlotte Hornets dont need more inexperienced people in office, that's the problem with the team now because Jordan hires his friends. Lol.

    • @youngblood4127
      @youngblood4127 4 года назад

      @@TheDefenseIsUpNext You can't name a single person under Jordan's regime who's his "friend." It has however been NOTED that Jordan has drafted players from North Carolina, simply because they went to North Carolina. BJ Armstrong has a keen eye for talent & has been an agent to multiple successful basketball careers, a former scout & president of basketball operations before. You think Pippen's basketball Knowledge wouldn't be useful to a team trying to build, yet former players such as Doug Collins, Steve Kerr, Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Jerry West proven it can. Finally, I'll take Jerry West's approval of Dennis Rodman, over anyone.

  • @jaygoodman384
    @jaygoodman384 4 года назад

    Nobody will see teammates side of "Last Dance"🤔

  • @domingomacedo1758
    @domingomacedo1758 4 года назад

    Love how Max leaves out the point that Horace Grant was injured when Chicago swept Orlando in '96, he missed 3 games.

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 4 года назад +3

    Mostly everyone wants to know the narrative from Michael Jordan. We want to know *his* side to *his* story. We already heard your side, Horace. You snitched it all to Sam Smith. We now know it's you, Horace. The Jordan Rules "source."

  • @chifreak26
    @chifreak26 4 года назад +2

    horace grant used to get punked by the detroit pistons constantly and in that time period you needed your PF to be an enforcer and grant was soft as dwight howard

    • @midwestking100
      @midwestking100 4 года назад

      Horace use to get punked by Armen Gilliam of the Philadelphia 76ers too

    • @bruceellis7692
      @bruceellis7692 4 года назад

      The man was a rookie he was bullied by Oakley stop making stuff up but you bring up the Pistons they punked the whole Bulls team til 91 Mike included

  • @Icecube88
    @Icecube88 4 года назад

    stephen a smith said "turnt" a little before the 59 sec mark. i was wondering if he meant to say turned?

  • @adeBABYallday
    @adeBABYallday 4 года назад +2

    Nah I see why SAS be yelling at max cause he really be babbling!!! Smh just tell us if you like or dislike Grant statement towards Jordan we don’t need a whole backstory bro everyone seen the doc.

    • @davidowens2067
      @davidowens2067 4 года назад

      Usually Max is the only one on point.

  • @theophilus3793
    @theophilus3793 4 года назад +8

    Why are we getting a steady dose of Jay everyday? Bring back Will Cain.

    • @tone6835
      @tone6835 4 года назад

      Will Cain is no longer with ESPN.

  • @medinaw94
    @medinaw94 4 года назад

    I remember someone once told me "a documentary isn't suppose to tell the full truth or every perspective. Its suppose to tell a story that the director wants it to."

    • @TheDefenseIsUpNext
      @TheDefenseIsUpNext 4 года назад

      Nah. You're changing the definition of documentary. That's BS. If the director is choosing the facts then it's a work of fiction just like the Last Dance is. J9rdan picking and choosing what makes him feel good and look better.

  • @YungFredo22
    @YungFredo22 4 года назад

    Max really be rambling for 2-3 mins straight making like 10 points😂😂

  • @JLisleWrites
    @JLisleWrites 4 года назад

    Correction Jordan was also the best basketball player of the 21st century, he didn't retire until 2003.

  • @k.f.harris4072
    @k.f.harris4072 4 года назад

    Thanks Stephen A🔥

  • @leonellangston2009
    @leonellangston2009 4 года назад +10

    David Stern and Paul Taglibue the best commissioners. Adam silver and goodell are somewhat predictable.

    • @OleTimHerr
      @OleTimHerr 4 года назад +1

      Not stern tbh

    • @mrray7169
      @mrray7169 4 года назад +2

      Nah Silver is the GOAT. He's always proactive and listens to his players. Stern although he was a good man he created the petty tech fouls rules and suspended Amire just for stepping a foot off the bench

    • @DavidBrown-du4ru
      @DavidBrown-du4ru 4 года назад +1

      Goodell is a corrupt man.

    • @yp5ee
      @yp5ee 4 года назад

      Michael Jordan is the greatest commissioner. He saved the NBA. End of story

    • @anthonymckinley1380
      @anthonymckinley1380 4 года назад

      Stern made what the NBA is today and revolutionist player marketing

  • @2knelly363
    @2knelly363 4 года назад

    I don’t understand why max needed to bring up MJ losing to Orlando in the conference finals.That has nothing to do with the topic.