very good and cheap printer, I don't know why there are so many negative opinions on the internet. I have this model and it prints with 0.1mm tolerance at 500mm/s without any calibration and belt tensioning for months.
I think if they dropped the pro moniker and just left it at X4, it would give a better impression of what the product is. They have the plus, which is a perfect description of it being larger. So if they kept it as the X4 or X4 base, it would describe itself better.
I suspect the layer shift may be caused by the filament sensor. Extra resistance from the sensor when pulling more material during an X movement causes the shift. I have the same problem with my X1. When I bypass the senser the layer shift goes away.
The model S1 (of both Pro and Plus) fixed most of the problems (or all problems) that the first release had. So RUclipsrs need to update their reviews...
DO NOT BUY THIS MACHINE! the issue that it's mentioned briefly with the hotend is not a freak accident. Do a quick search and you will find in forums that this is a common issue, to the point that the hotend is no longer usable. Artillery knows this, and their terrible costumer service, will tell you that their "new policy" does not cover the hotend. The wifi, even with the new update, does not work. If it last one print it's nothing short of a miracle. And adjusting the Z-offset is not easy, since the software in the machine stops working all the time. You think you are adjusting it and it's not moving at all! This machine and company are nothing short of sc*m. All you have to do is do a bit of research. If you take the plunge there is one company (if you are outside the us) that provides compatible parts, it's from Thailand. Again. DO NOT BUY. it's tempting, don't do it
The x3 was a very good product.....it had problems that wore very quickly with very little use - that was fixed with the x4. They unfortunately introduced other problems that are bet disappointing. Still struggling with this printer😢
I got one of the first ones. And it did have issues. I expected so. But after working with Artillery the thing is awesome. I have 27 printers from basic A8 to 1000x1000x1600 professional printer. As I told my wife I think I have had ever possible issue with 3D fused filament printing. . But then a new on comes along and so does the solution. As an engineer, the design of the Artillery is much better than some of these $500 printers. The issues are all from it being new. The bearing blocks on this printer are excellent. Giving rise to some of the best looking prints I have seen. Smooth surfaces, and NO artifacts like the K1 Max I got rid of. I print almost exclusively PETG. I will try some TPU and even nylon on this soon. When you buy a new, just out, 3D printer, you can expect some issues. For fun, I bought the latest model of the Ender 3, not the pro. Cheap. And it has all the bugs worked out. It has the 4.2.2 pcb and prints beautifully. A lot better than the K1 ever printed. K1 was a disaster for me. If I had time I would do some videos like this. But I'm up against the clock on my projects. Can't spare the time.
Thanks for sharing! As an fellow engineer, may I ask you opinion on V-roller printers suchs as the Neptune 4 or SV07? A lot of people say they are bad because of that, but I've so far never seen anyone argue that with actual test results and data, just heresay about the design.
Thank you for a honest review. I have the x1 for meny years without any problems dr reily just the usual cable replacement and upgraded the wheels and gantry stiffening rods. My first choice would be the x4pro but with all these problems I a very apprehensiveat this Tim's. Please could you update me on how it is running now as it I some time now since your post. Have you carried out any further updates and did the fix any problems you had Kindest regards. Mike Irish
I can disagree on some missing "pro" features 😉 - Manual (or could it be assisted, it does have a sensor, maybe it's not a Klipper thing?) levelling/tramming can bring bed corners within 0.1 mm while some fixed bed printers can have over 1 mm difference. Sure, mesh levelling handles that and possibly more, but it's just wrong 🤔 - Automatic belt tensioners work with springs, and at least I don't want anything springy or flexible in my belts. Better than loose belts, but no 😅 It's a pity that mechanically solid printer (compared to Ender 3 V3 SE and KE with plastic base) does not deliver in Klipper department.
Yet another disappointing klipper bedslinger. It would have been a reasonable price 6 months ago, but now that the Ender 3 v3 KE exists and costs only a bit more, I see very few reasons to recommend this one. Especially since the KE fixes most of the issues you ran into with this (no bed screws, auto z-offset, can run input shaper calibration, and supports a camera).
very good and cheap printer, I don't know why there are so many negative opinions on the internet. I have this model and it prints with 0.1mm tolerance at 500mm/s without any calibration and belt tensioning for months.
I think if they dropped the pro moniker and just left it at X4, it would give a better impression of what the product is. They have the plus, which is a perfect description of it being larger. So if they kept it as the X4 or X4 base, it would describe itself better.
I suspect the layer shift may be caused by the filament sensor. Extra resistance from the sensor when pulling more material during an X movement causes the shift. I have the same problem with my X1. When I bypass the senser the layer shift goes away.
The model S1 (of both Pro and Plus) fixed most of the problems (or all problems) that the first release had. So RUclipsrs need to update their reviews...
DO NOT BUY THIS MACHINE! the issue that it's mentioned briefly with the hotend is not a freak accident. Do a quick search and you will find in forums that this is a common issue, to the point that the hotend is no longer usable. Artillery knows this, and their terrible costumer service, will tell you that their "new policy" does not cover the hotend. The wifi, even with the new update, does not work. If it last one print it's nothing short of a miracle. And adjusting the Z-offset is not easy, since the software in the machine stops working all the time. You think you are adjusting it and it's not moving at all! This machine and company are nothing short of sc*m. All you have to do is do a bit of research. If you take the plunge there is one company (if you are outside the us) that provides compatible parts, it's from Thailand. Again. DO NOT BUY. it's tempting, don't do it
I totally agree.
thank you brother, wish this was a pinned comment. im getting the bambu lab A1
I have Artillery sidewinder X1 (30x30x40) Using it for 4 years without any problems.
The x3 was a very good product.....it had problems that wore very quickly with very little use - that was fixed with the x4. They unfortunately introduced other problems that are bet disappointing. Still struggling with this printer😢
I feel an A1 or A1 Mini seems like a better option at that price range.
My pro works as a charm no layer shifting at all. Yours had problem maybe a pre release model.
I got the revised version for 130€, updated everything... it works great... out of the box.
What do you mean with the revised version and how do you know if you are buying the revised version?
because it is the new model... by build date... where all of the mentioned problems have been fixed....
I use that machine, for now I glad to buy it
Great video. 🤙
I got one of the first ones. And it did have issues. I expected so. But after working with Artillery the thing is awesome. I have 27 printers from basic A8 to 1000x1000x1600 professional printer. As I told my wife I think I have had ever possible issue with 3D fused filament printing. . But then a new on comes along and so does the solution. As an engineer, the design of the Artillery is much better than some of these $500 printers. The issues are all from it being new.
The bearing blocks on this printer are excellent. Giving rise to some of the best looking prints I have seen. Smooth surfaces, and NO artifacts like the K1 Max I got rid of. I print almost exclusively PETG. I will try some TPU and even nylon on this soon.
When you buy a new, just out, 3D printer, you can expect some issues.
For fun, I bought the latest model of the Ender 3, not the pro. Cheap. And it has all the bugs worked out. It has the 4.2.2 pcb and prints beautifully. A lot better than the K1 ever printed. K1 was a disaster for me.
If I had time I would do some videos like this. But I'm up against the clock on my projects. Can't spare the time.
Thanks for sharing! As an fellow engineer, may I ask you opinion on V-roller printers suchs as the Neptune 4 or SV07? A lot of people say they are bad because of that, but I've so far never seen anyone argue that with actual test results and data, just heresay about the design.
Thank you for a honest review. I have the x1 for meny years without any problems dr reily just the usual cable replacement and upgraded the wheels and gantry stiffening rods. My first choice would be the x4pro but with all these problems I a very apprehensiveat this Tim's. Please could you update me on how it is running now as it I some time now since your post. Have you carried out any further updates and did the fix any problems you had
Kindest regards.
Mike Irish
Isn't Professional all about price? :)
When marketing trumps engineering. Not a bad machine for the price though.
I've had nothing but problems with mine!
Have you updated the firmware?
@@ElevatedSystems Yes
I can disagree on some missing "pro" features 😉
- Manual (or could it be assisted, it does have a sensor, maybe it's not a Klipper thing?) levelling/tramming can bring bed corners within 0.1 mm while some fixed bed printers can have over 1 mm difference. Sure, mesh levelling handles that and possibly more, but it's just wrong 🤔
- Automatic belt tensioners work with springs, and at least I don't want anything springy or flexible in my belts. Better than loose belts, but no 😅
It's a pity that mechanically solid printer (compared to Ender 3 V3 SE and KE with plastic base) does not deliver in Klipper department.
Yet another disappointing klipper bedslinger. It would have been a reasonable price 6 months ago, but now that the Ender 3 v3 KE exists and costs only a bit more, I see very few reasons to recommend this one. Especially since the KE fixes most of the issues you ran into with this (no bed screws, auto z-offset, can run input shaper calibration, and supports a camera).
O boy o boy. Never again.
Agree, don't buy