Richard Cross what does this have to do with Jesus? don't ruin this with religion! it obviously reflects pain and suffering seeing that it was written while in a Nazi concentration camp. nothing to do with religious BS.
Ariel, You obviously don't know much about Messiaen or theology, The composer was deep into theology and a mystic as the very title of this composition and so many others implies. The Suffering Servant of Yahweh in your Old Testament is very much connected with the sufferings of Christ and the Jewish people of the Holocaust. I'm sorry but the sufferings of humanity as exemplified in the Holocaust poses an undeniable existential and theological challenge for Christians and others. You may not share this viewpoint. But it is ludicrous and really an ignorant cheap shot to deny any connection between the sufferings in a Nazi concentration camp and religion.
Oh you didn't just go there!!! My family perished in the Holocaust as Jews. Don't talk to me about religion being connected! Actually in suffering (maybe one day you'll realize this) in suffering religion actually boils down to getting rid of all that bull shit theology, and back to the basic roots of monotheistic thought. No man's opinions (a.k.a "theology") can ever stand the test of suffering! I know theology very well thank you! I didn't hear anything but emotion and feeling in that music. Theology???!!!? Are you kidding me?! It's music written with more emotions than you'll ever know existed sir! At least the composer survived, my family didn't.
Messiaen didn't write this in a Nazi concentration camp, he wrote it in a labour camp, hence how he survived. He wasn't jewish, simply a prisoner of war forced to work for the enemy.
Richard Cross Buon giorno, credo che Messiaen e molti altri prigionieri debbano la loro resilienza alla musica: una luce nelle tenebre della brutalità umana, che riuscì a tener viva la speranza, un conforto per la dignità perduta e credo anche consolatrice per i morsi della fame. Un abbraccio Signor Richard.
Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow For Thine is the Kingdom Between the conception And the creation Between the emotion And the response Falls the Shadow Life is very long Between the desire And the spasm Between the potency And the existence Between the essence And the descent Falls the Shadow For Thine is the Kingdom For Thine is Life is For Thine is the This is the way the world ends Not with a bang, but a whimper. -T S Eliot
At this time of spring, rejuvenation, Passover, Easter, and the return of the birds, here's a meditation that changed my musical perceptions - when I heard it played by the wonderful Bill Jenks live.
The only reason someone thumbs down this music is because not that they don't like the style of the music, or the certain arrangement of pieces, but because the music itself is too powerful, too sad to fully understand; that the person that wrote this piece was in the pits of despair on the battle fronts of WWII. The listener, himself, does not not like the music, but is truly afraid of the feeling associated with this piece. And I do not blame him.
So this piece was originally written for an instrument called the Ondes Martenot. I don't know about anyone else, but I can almost hear one at 3:18 playing the melody alongside the cello. Maybe the EQ on the cello mic pulled out some of the upper harmonics. I can hear them hauntingly ring out.
How can there be music after the end of time? We should think perhaps of time itself as something much more fundamental and sacred than the Christian tradition does. Also because it is being expressed somehow in rythm, which is constutive element of something as sacred as this you hear.
One beautiful, extended, exquisite string of tears... remarkable music.
this is my favourite music of all time.
Great upload, thanks. The paintings by MR are a perfect match.
Beautiful meditation on the eternal Mystery of Jesus.
This was of course written while Messiaen was a prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp.
Richard Cross what does this have to do with Jesus? don't ruin this with religion! it obviously reflects pain and suffering seeing that it was written while in a Nazi concentration camp. nothing to do with religious BS.
Ariel, You obviously don't know much about Messiaen or theology, The composer was deep into theology and a mystic as the very title of this composition and so many others implies. The Suffering Servant of Yahweh in your Old Testament is very much connected with the sufferings of Christ and the Jewish people of the Holocaust. I'm sorry but the sufferings of humanity as exemplified in the Holocaust poses an undeniable existential and theological challenge for Christians and others. You may not share this viewpoint. But it is ludicrous and really an ignorant cheap shot to deny any connection between the sufferings in a Nazi concentration camp and religion.
Oh you didn't just go there!!! My family perished in the Holocaust as Jews. Don't talk to me about religion being connected! Actually in suffering (maybe one day you'll realize this) in suffering religion actually boils down to getting rid of all that bull shit theology, and back to the basic roots of monotheistic thought. No man's opinions (a.k.a "theology") can ever stand the test of suffering!
I know theology very well thank you! I didn't hear anything but emotion and feeling in that music.
Theology???!!!? Are you kidding me?! It's music written with more emotions than you'll ever know existed sir!
At least the composer survived, my family didn't.
Messiaen didn't write this in a Nazi concentration camp, he wrote it in a labour camp, hence how he survived. He wasn't jewish, simply a prisoner of war forced to work for the enemy.
Richard Cross Buon giorno, credo che Messiaen e molti altri prigionieri debbano la loro resilienza alla musica: una luce nelle tenebre della brutalità umana, che riuscì a tener viva la speranza, un conforto per la dignità perduta e credo anche consolatrice per i morsi della fame. Un abbraccio Signor Richard.
Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long
Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang, but a whimper.
-T S Eliot
Sublime
This is so beautifull, I am speechless
At this time of spring, rejuvenation, Passover, Easter, and the return of the birds, here's a meditation that changed my musical perceptions - when I heard it played by the wonderful Bill Jenks live.
And for whatever comes after the end of time too, I hope.
Sounds like the recent version with Jean Laforge (piano) and Robert Bex (cello). Gorgeous.
this music i so moving. i think everyone should get the opportunity to hear it
😮❤❤
The only reason someone thumbs down this music is because not that they don't like the style of the music, or the certain arrangement of pieces, but because the music itself is too powerful, too sad to fully understand; that the person that wrote this piece was in the pits of despair on the battle fronts of WWII. The listener, himself, does not not like the music, but is truly afraid of the feeling associated with this piece. And I do not blame him.
Very well said
Thanks
So this piece was originally written for an instrument called the Ondes Martenot. I don't know about anyone else, but I can almost hear one at 3:18 playing the melody alongside the cello. Maybe the EQ on the cello mic pulled out some of the upper harmonics. I can hear them hauntingly ring out.
Messien himself put it best: "The melody stretches majestically into a kind of gentle, regal distance."
The End of time is near
Anyone knows who play this? I found it particularly beautiful. The tempo is just perfect.
I think this is Lionel Gali, Guy Deplus, and Robert Bex recording. Could totally be wrong
Please let us know who the performers are!
This music perfectly sums up the pandemic lockdown felt like.
Verwante zielen,Rothko en Messiaen.
Wie zijn de uitvoerenden?Dank.
I swear i heard this piece in a movie or somewhere else, just cant remember..
might have been the revenant
Was used in Ken Burn's The War
Who are the performers?
How can there be music after the end of time? We should think perhaps of time itself as something much more fundamental and sacred than the Christian tradition does. Also because it is being expressed somehow in rythm, which is constutive element of something as sacred as this you hear.
Just joking around, bro.