The Jedi that Hated Using Lightsabers - Star Wars’ Gray Paladins
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A Jedi: *Says or does something just slightly against the stringent moral code*
The Jedi Order: Sounds like something a Sith would do
Palpatine did nothing wrong
Well the sith are better so heck you all.
@@whatwhat7119 In all technicality Palpatine's reign was more peaceful then the Republic.
That being said, peace is what happens when you let bad people do what they want.
@@PugilistCactus peace is what happens when you kill anyone who disagrees. The rebellion winning probably killed an extra 200 trillion in the was against the outsiders though so again, palpatine did nothing wrong.
It's treason then.
But no. Palpatine subjugating most of the galaxy is not "did nothing wrong".
Jedi: blasters bad!
Lightsaber victims: i miss life and my limbs
Uhm blasters cause kinetic explosions
Yeah, I mean, a weapon is a weapon.
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A one shot kill with a gun could even be argued to be more humane than dismemberment with a sword.
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Then again, I suppose lightsabers can also have utilitarian uses, like a wealding toarch, cutting tool, flashlight, or campfire-starter.
@@austinwhite3132 Depends on the type of blaster.
“Why the gray paladins HATED lightsabers”
“They didn’t hate lightsabers per se...”
I like this channel's content, but wtf is up with the clickbait titles
The title could of just bee "Why the gray paladins used blasters" or Jedi that used Blasters- Gray Paladins
Welcome to the Internet
Blasters can only be used offensively
Stun mode: am I a joke to you?
Jared Flynn using a stun setting would still be considered an offensive move. It is just using a less than lethal force, just like a taser vs a fire arm, both are offensive in nature. Light sabers could actually be used as both defensive and offensive weapons.
Less than lethal bullets can still be lethal. That said i agree.
I was literally just thinking about this as he said it, and now it seems criminal to me that we have double sided lightsabers but no lightsabers with a stun blaster on one side. It's the perfect jedi weapon.
I wonder why Sith wouldn't use blasters alongside sabers you'd think they'd be the sneaky types to get a Jedi's saber in a bind and then pull out a blaster pistol and shoot them point blank lol
@@jaredflynn3750 YEAH
Am I the only guy who's immediately going to ask about the Metropolice on the thumbnail?
No
It looks more like a combine soldier to me. Maybe it’s a concept design for one of the two?
@@WackyTheWise Soldiers have light-up goggles and darker metal on the masks, but given everything below the head I wouldn't put it beyond concept or fan art.
@@WackyTheWise I believe it is concept art for the Half-Life 2 Beta
@@thod8820 it is
That jedi be like
“Pick up that can“
"Pick up that clanker"
ah lad just go back to the entrance, throw the can at him but make sure to grab it back. set it right in front of the door. close the door lad.
Lol yes there is the raising the bar metrocop
I hadn’t heard of the Grey Paladins before. This will be interesting.
Its not a story the sith would tell
They avoided order 66 by bubble hearthing
@@ArckAngel75 not the what?
I wonder if the Sith records mention them
@@kvaldez46 I was drunk ass fuck typing it I thought I typed a story
The Jedi Council's narrow mindedness did heavily contribute to the fall of their order. Have they never heard of a stun setting? Many blasters have stun settings whereas lightsabers don't tend to boast such a feature. Jedi should have been actively encouraged to become proficiant in as many weapons, tools, and skillsets as possible.
Besides, coming up close and cutting someone in half is more of an offensive tactic than a defensive tactic
Jedis are humans, they want to seize control and keep it. Freedom of choice make you lose control. Maybe if Jedis had a better understanding of things they had survived the clone wars 66 arc
However, the Sith also survived. The truth is that balance always finds a way
Lightsabers can be set to a low level, which the beam can actually be held in ones hand with slight burning and bruising.
@@DarkSamson1 that's primarily a training setting that can still causes minor injury and doesn't stun outright so my point stands. That's why I THOROUGHLY enjoyed Ezra Bridger's first lightsaber. It had a stun blaster built into the hilt. If he had incorporated a secondary power source for said stun blaster, he could have reliably used it in tandom with his lightsaber. A blade lock stun would be quite the equalizer after all.😁
The attitude of using any accessible weapon in combat is permissible is just common sense. The attitude that excludes the use of a weapon because it is primarily utilized as an offensive weapon is asinine. Use whatever is at hand when it comes down to the protection and preservation of the innocent and if possible, even the guilty. That’s how I understood the philosophy of the Gray Paladins when I first heard of them.
Geetsly, thank you for expanding further my understanding of the Gray Paladins. You create interesting, informative and entertaining content. Keep up the good work Sergeant.
Gay paladins
Just me or does the Guy on the left side of the screen with the red background look like a combine from Half Life?
Yes it is combine
ITS A CP!
God, now we have to ask Eckhart's Ladder to do a "Combine vs Star Wars" series. Thank's Geetsly.
@Demiclea did you literally just take the time to correct "actually" to "achualy"
“I’m gonna have to give you a non compliance verdict.”
I believe using a blaster to disable you opponent not kill them is the same as a forced surrender at lightsaber tip it ends the chance of life being destroyed. sure not pure defencive in thought so not orthodox but far from a raging zabrak with a saberstaff
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The gray paladins reminds me A LOT of the the gunslinger order of Stephen King's Dark Tower books.
Thank Geetlsly for doing my suggestion lol.
To me it always stupid not use other weapons alongside the lightsaber that you more options and blasters have a stun setting on them. Also the Gray palidins used military tactics so they would have been very useful during the clone wars and less casualties. But the Jedi wanted to reject anything that didn't fit into their ideology.
Niice
Why is there a combine soldier concept art as the thumbnail?
Because it's Star Wars video :D
Correction, civil protection
Cause this guy did the bare minimum of research into the pictures he used
@@hunden_ein ikr
Oh! Never heard of the Gray Paladins before but this is exactly what I was looking for.
Your thumbnail has a concept art for a Half Life 2 Combine Soldier
I would be a Grey Paladin. They seem like an Order of Force users that know what they are doing.
You mean being realists and not a hypocritical order of space monks with laser swords?
@@DrakeKnight99 yes
This is the true Star Wars. So glad I grew up with the same timeline he did. Idk if it’s bias, but I think it’s the most compelling version. Listen up, officer on deck! Go Geetsly!
Considering what disney has done to screw up Star Wars, we're on the right side.
Why don't Jedi just use electrostaffs? They have the defensive capabilities of a lightsaber, but it's incredibly hard to kill someone with one
Wait can electro staffs deflect blaster bolts? It should be considered since in new legends It seems younglings that go on adventures use some sort of shock stick for defense in the absence of a lightsaber.
Is that a combine from Half-life on the thumbnail?
Yep
It is indeed
I was expecting combine because of the thumbnail
Yo same
I love all of this, my favorite force tradition are the blazing chains: force using pirates who could bend their blaster bolts mid shot
2:13, Whys Gene Simmons using force drain?
Using a particular force power doesn't decide if they are Light side or Dark side, it is how they feel while using and right after using that power especially when life in taken by the use of the force power.
Farrdawg Joker Yes, but that mentality can affect your choice.
Why the Paladin in the thumbnail on the left looks like a WW1 trench soldier Civil Protection Combine in Half-Life 2?
I'm getting a mix between universe crisis here.
Maybe as well as Grey Jedi, there needs to be a new term for Light side users who disagree with the council - Beige Jedi ?
casbott Usually "Correct Jedi" works well enough :^)
Plaid Jedi
Non binary jedi
Definitely the type of Jedi I’d prefer to be.
Han solo with the force basically
I literally just want to be a mandalorian force-user with heavy blasters, and an unfolding double bladed lightsaber. (Like pong krells )
@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly lmao. You just said you want to be everything.
Thank you for mentioning about the grey Jedi issue it’s such pain to explain, when I first heard about it I thought it was awesome but looking back carefully about the Grey Jedi contradicts so many things that fans get mixed up with, whether it’s Jolie Bindo view on jedi doctrine but still remains a Jedi... only mentioning I See things gray once. Qui gon and Ahsoka who see a different view on the order but still remain as Jedi’s or servants of the light side who never used the dark side. Galen Marek, he’s a dark Jedi, never trained in the light side.
Imagine calling yourself a good person(light side) but kill enemies for fun (dark side). The dark side is like a poison
“once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will”.-Yoda
Basically, if Disney wanted to show a Grey palladin, they should hire Keanu Reeves.
Man, playing a Grey Paladin in a Star Wars RPG would be AWESOME.
Now you can in Star Wars Survivors
Can we get you to change from low key thrashing disney and it's simplistic approach to the force to high key, full throttle thrashing disney? I'm here for it
Cade Skywalker used a lighsaber and an assortment of blasters
And here I am, "why not use both?" (imagine force wielding Mandalorians in full combat gear)
Personally for me I have always seen Grey Jedi as good, but instead of adhering to the strict Jedi code they would follow their heart.
I believe that Anakin would've been such a Jedi if Palpatine hadn't corrupted him.
To me the Jedi code describes a robot and personally I do not agree with it.
The fanmade Grey Jedi code is way better.
Also, how big a difference is there between Revanites and Dark Jedi?
I still feel like the darkside can be used with the will of the force, so long as you adhere to it. Considering that darkside powers have you tap into your emotions, so long as you knew when to stop or kept a tight leash on your emotions you could direct them towards the will of the force. Something similar to what Momin had spoken to Darth Vader, however instead of letting the darkside of the force control you; you control your own emotions. The force is just the force, there is no evil nor good. Those who try to bend it to their will and own means is the imbalance. Those who use it to enact its own will will always be within the balance. How they direct themselves within the force dictates if they are Grey or Jedi. Meaning if they choose to tap into the darkside or keep wholly within the light.
Mace windoo or how ever you spell his name did use some of the dark side if I remember correctly
But isn't the Jedi order participating in a galactic civil war a sign of aggression amongst ALL of them?
Hmmmmmmmmmm
As I get older, the more I find the Jedi hypocritical and annoying.
@@benm5913 the more fan like to think poing out these hypotheses means they know better, the more annoyed I get
@@jameswagstaff984 I mean, I get it. I don't particularly like the whole redefine everything so that good is bad and bad is good phenomenon that is so popular.
In this case, however, I don't think it's a stretch to be genuinely disillusioned with a group that self defines as the representatives of objective good who act outside the realm of objective good.
Sounds like a faction I’d love to be a part of
There were several force abilities that allowed a force user such as a Jedi to defend themselves against enemy attack without using a lightsaber, so the whole "lightsabers are defensive because you can use them to deflect blaster bolts" is kind of ridiculous. If you learn the right skill you can catch blaster bolts with your hands!
Also, using the force to slow opponents or freeze them in place has traditionally been seen as a neutral or even light side power in most media from what I remember, instead a dark side force user would use the force to inflame an opponents negative emotions, such as fear, or physically debilitate them to gain the upper hand.
Anyone else wondering why the thumb nail has a combine?
More I learn about the Jedi splinter factions and the various force disciplines of the Star Wars universe, the sillier it all gets. Not that gunslinger jedi aren't pretty damn awesome, but it gets hard to take seriously in context with the setting at times.
I'm kinda liking these guys way more than the Jedi. They seem to understand the bigger picture more.
Were there any kyber crystal blasters? I don't see why it would only be bound to the form of a blade
In Canon, there was the lightsaber rifle. Which, as the name suggests, used a lightsaber as fuel for ammunition. It can only fire up to 5 shots before causing the lightsaber to melt, and the rifle to explode.
Also, the Death Star (at least in Canon) is basically a gigantic kyber blaster (or laser I guess). It is powered by 8 kyber crystals.
I'm not sure if Legends had blasters or other projectile weapons that used kyber crystals though.
Honestly if there was a gungan jedi that used one of those water shields with a lightsaber that would have been pretty cool.
Ironic isn't it. Qui-gon adheres to a more immersive brand of force teachings, and the religion spewing how the force guides everything scolds him for going against orthodoxy. Tradition and dogma, ladies and gents. It's what turns freethinkers into sith lords.
maybe the knights of ren could be a dark side version of the gray paladins?
That sounds interesting.
@@emmanuelmorris7653 not really sith, but like the sith sort of concept. maybe they were in their mid to older teens when they ended up coming to luke at his jedi temple and thus, only got basic force training.
That would have been badass.
From what I understand, they had varying weapons including vibroblades or blasters which they enhanced with the dark side of the force.
Gray Paladin: finally light siders that make sense.
Why is their a combine in the thumbnail?
I actually have the book where they originally appeared in, and read that whole series and the spin-off... The Last Jedi. Yeah, before the EU became Legends canon, there was a book called The Last Jedi. It was awful, and really justified making it Legends because of how contradictory the canon had become, with several examples appearing in that book as they tried to make sense of them.
Hmm, can you please explain the wrong things in it? Clarification goes a long way.
@@michaelandreipalon359 , well, as for the contradicting canons, Mandalore in various books and Mandalore in the TV show are far different not only in culture but geography (book Mandalore had some green, while the TV show's was blasted flat). Dathomir was also hit hard, with the Nightsisters being either human-like or more like Asajj Ventress, so they had both in the book. I didn't find the book very enjoyable either, as it too seemed all over the place. It's been a while though, so my memory's fuzzy.
@@no1ofconsequence936 Ah, OK, the connections of the Legends continuity with the TCW 2008 one.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Even moreso since the Coruscant Nights trilogy already showed (and then kills off) Jedi Master Even Piell.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Another issue with the Last Jedi book that followed on from Coruscant Nights is that the author seemed to keep flip-flopping on how much time had passed since the Clone Wars. Most of Coruscant Nights was meant to take place within 2 years of Order 66, but there were a few odd instances of them rounding up the time since the events of Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter (set a few months before The Phantom Menace) to a full "two decades ago" so 17BBY might think it's 12BBY for a scene. And then in The Last Jedi they started doing that with the events of the Medstar Duology (set in the middle of the Clone Wars) so they'd seem to be randomly jumping between 15BBY and 2BBY even though the story took place over a matter of weeks. It's a shame that such errors weren't caught, because the Noir-esque feel of the Coruscant Nights trilogy was quite fun
Blasters have a stun setting and light sabers don't.
Basically Kyle kattarn, or any of the extended universe jedi.
I bet some used the force to guide their projectiles. But something I was thinking of for a while was if I where to create a lightsaber, one feature would be to make an integrated blaster that uses the crystal of the lightsaber to make more powerful shots and that could also give added effects for instance if I where to use the crystal with the effect of force plague or the soul saber crystal that contains a dark side nexus it would apply those effects to the blaster bolt
Ezra Bridger enters the chat
Something tells me that Obi-Wan considered the Gray Paladins to be... what's the word... uncivilized
Grey paladins describing their combat doctrine: “I have yet to meet one who can outsmart boolet.”
Why is there a concept art Combine soldier in the thumbnail?
Yoda with a minigun XD
Now that's just op
*MWC-35c "Staccato Lightning" repeating cannon* [Baze's minigun from Rogue One]
"rekt get"
Did the Jedi counsel know that obi-wan killed general grevious with a blaster and if they did what was their reaction??
Gray paladdin vs Imperial Royal Guard. Something worth warching. I prefer this version of the Jedi. They seem better than actual ones.
I know they practice other skills like military tactics so they would have been during the clone wars and less casualties or even investigative and espionage skills so they could have even help find out about the origins of the clones or Palpatine.
Now if the Jedi had also trained in projectile weapons like slugs throwers and blasters.. hell even as simple as slings and whatever is an ACTUAL version of bows an arrows an maybe like martial arts and explosives skills for example they coulda better understood what they was up against as well as their troops, on both sides of dealing with Clones and CIS Droids.. then they could been BETTER tacticicians an WHEN the Clones turned on them they might've had a much harder time wiping them out. While ALSO working on their various Force powers. If Jedi had acted an learned more like Paladins an been more flexible. Way more mightve been harder to kill or turn dark and been much higher threats to the Sith and large amounts of skilled anti Jedi shooters like Clones troops and Mandalorians. Jist about EVERY sorta weapon can be used both ways. It's just a matter of setting a situation up that way along with how you use it.
Ok, idea:
Grey Paladin cowboy jedi with duel blasters.
Finished old master while listening to this. Your videos made the grind more bearable
I can surely respect certain aspects of the Grey Paladin's philosophy and outlook.
This video was great and all but...can Gray Paladins watch those wrist rockets!?
OH MY GOOOD.
I didn't know the Universal Union have gray Jedi!
Ye i bet u thought ur fellow combine were here because of the thumbnail *didnt you*
captain pepsi Yeperoos.
Lucky Luke is a Gray Paladin. 😆
But joking aside, think of it this way. If your lightsaber is broken, then how do you fight? If your blaster is broken, you pick up one of the countless scattered across the battlefield.
Use that which just works. Han Solo said it best: *"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."* 😜
Loving that Half Life 2 art
Pick up that can
Then why did plo Koon say “Jedi don’t use blasters.”?
fartdorrito 4 Because he didn't consider these bois to be Jedi
“Stay strapped or get clapped.” -The Grey Paladin Code
Gray paladins!
**shows half life 2 concept art**
Eh close enough
Gray paladin=star wars John wick
John Wick with force powers sounds op.
A jedi not using his lightsaber is like a man not using his.... well, never mind 😂😂
What if there was a weapon called a Forced blaster; a gun that uses a kyber crystal as it’s source of power and it shoot concentrated force energies or something similar and maybe it’s extremely difficult to block with a lightsaber without using the extraordinary ability of force together with a block technique ....just a thought 😭😂
These guys are a cut of my jib
Did anyone notice that the thumbnail has a combine soldier from Half Life 2?
Jedi Order: Noooo you have to use a lightsaberr!!!
Grey Paladins: hehehe gun go brrrrrrrrrtttt!
Whats a combine soldier doing on the thumbnail?
okay why is there a Civil Protection officer in the thumbnail lmao
Metro-Cop in thumbnail:why am i in a another universe?!
"Working to balance the force by being a grey Jedi is utterly wrong. As George Lucas himself put it; the light side is ITSELF the balance."
YES! I've been telling people this for forever. Finally confirmation.
Would join these guys over the Council any day
Edit: There are three kinds of force user Selfish, Balanced and Stagnant
So Sith , Gray, and jedi
So, for you Dark Tower (book) fans, they were the Star Wars version of gunslingers
Luke in the jedi academy lol your choices of firearms and even grenade hahahaha
That's why Mace windu Is so strong. To use Vapad which is a dark side channeling lightsaber form and is an offensive form yet is was a Jedi through and through
Why does the thumbnail in the video have a Combine soldier from Half Life 2?
Is that a beta Combine from HL2 BETA?
Hey geetsly! Sorry I’m late, but great video! (The same HexIT who texted you!)
i kinda wish some people would make gray paladin star wars short films that would be awesome
Orange Ligthsaber with dooku handel ,,, that my style ... Be Gray
I would have liked the new Star Wars movies to go somewhere along this path, in the ways of story...
I’m in a Star Wars campaign and my character I’m using is a grey paladin
Jedi: Act and submit to the will of the force
Grey Paladin: Act and Be the will of the force
The Gray Paladins sound way more my speed. The Jedi are interesting in their supernatural abilities. The Paladins are interesting in their mixed up styles unlike the increasing move toward uniformity starting in the Old High Republic era.
If Revan use blasters, he’d be John Wick of Star Wars.
Jedi council: "Blasters bad"
The same time Jedi throwing rocks with force at enemy or pushing enemy with force push 20 floors down or mind trick someone to shoot his friend ..... yeah sure 😄
We must use our gifts for the betterment of others as we see fit
Guy on the left side on the thumbnail is going to tell me to pick up that can
I know Obi-Wan said that the light-sabur was a civilized weapon, but guns are actually more civilized because there much more officiant. Think of it this way: if jedi decided to use blasters instead, then they would be more deadly than they would be with a light sabur.
Oof I remember a godawful legends novel that had Anakin and Obi Wan using blasters and thermal detonators