It's so ridiculous that Ohio St didn't have half their players get a 1 game suspension for the Michigan game. They literally had to pepper spray 20+ players and needed cop intervention. Why are they here. I guess I'm rooting for Notre Dame, can't believe I'm saying that
Seriously leaving money on the table if we don't have a Van & Joel podcast ASAP. Not since Sir Charles Holmes has someone had Van on his toes so much. Going to be hard to top this as a podcast segment of the year.
So the guy that beat Tennessee, Indiana, prnn state, oregon, Texas and will beat ND Monday for the chip is maybe still not the guy bc of michigan? You all need to stop. We dominated the. For like 20 years what's a cpl losses.
Bill is leaving that one alone van always be saying outta pocket shit kinda funny tho how little fucks he gives i know somw girls who went to school there and like he said if its true its true.. 😂
Saban staying at LSU would have been scary hours. What he did with the 2003 team was crazy with a dentist at QB. And how he turned around a dumpster fire program that was going nowhere in the late 90s. Then he bounces for the NFL right when recruiting talent would have skyrocketed to match his Coaching, so he never got to capitalize on the Natty win at LSU. He'd have more titles with LSU than he won at Bama.
They need a college football pod... Bill can be the moderator that doesn't really like College football and doesn't quite get all the cultural jokes between the 2 LMAO This was good POD
@ Maybe not, but close. Michigan lost to Illinois and got killed by the good teams like Oregon and Texas, who Ohio State dismantled. The loss for Ohio State was just a fluke, nothing more. You know the '79 Steelers won the Superbowl and are considered one of the great teams of all time. They lost a regular season to Cincinnati, who was 4-12 that year. No one cares and everyone knows it was just a bad game for the Steelers.
If def makes up for it to me! Don’t get me wrong you still better beat Michigan again next year or it’s gonna be all bad for him again Sadly to a a lot of Ohio at fans that wont even make up for losing to Michigan 5 times in a row
Can we stop acting like regular season loses don’t matter? Yes the Michigan loss mattered, it’s the reason they were the 8 seed and had to play an additional game and the #1 seed in the second round! This notion that losses “mean less” is moronic. If anything the CFP has made the conference championship losses mean less due to the committees reluctance to punish teams who don’t win those games
Those who did not grow up in the rivalry don’t really understand it. All babies born at The OSU hospital during the week of The Game get Beat Michigan swag. It’s a way to introduce the next generation to the rivalry. The schools have competitions leading up to The Game to promote service and add to the rivalry. For instance, Buckeyes say they bleed scarlet and gray, and the team up north says they bleed maize and blue. So, to see which team has more pride, we have the Blood Battle (which OSU won this year!). There are other competitions like that leading up to The Game. There is a reason this rivalry is considered one of the best, if not the best, in college football. Go Bucks!!
Whatever team wins this championship absolutely fkn deserves it…they will have beat 4 top 10/12 teams back to fkn back…you’re delusional to think otherwise
Ohio State is not “8th-ranked.” That’s their seed with two auto. bye teams elevated above them. OSU’s actual CFP ranking was 6th. So many media continue to make this mistake and confuse the casual fan. … also what’s up with rattling off five OSU players by their first names? Use the last names. Sports “journalism” is way too casual these days.
@@colethornton6263 They would have jumped PSU in a 4 team playoff, they wouldn't put a 2 loss team with no good wins over a team that beat them on the road. Texas would also have been jumped by Notre Dame, they wouldn't put a team who lost twice to another playoff team over ND.
Two notes: 1) Can't believe no one has made the Wemby-Brendon Frasier in Bedazzled connection. 2)Jokic's #1 MVP case is making Westbrook relevant again.
Ohio State just has a larger margin of error... more talent, more ways to win. But Notre Dame is a well coached team that executes extremely well and takes advantage of mistakes (And causes a lot of mistakes via turnovers). So they are the perfect team to upset a team like Ohio State.
Why are we talking about football teams from 30 years ago for 2025 championship match? None of those teams are anything like Notre dame and Ohio state rn.
Crazy that all those teams get mentions and Oklahoma doesn’t. Oklahoma really is the odd one out amongst the blue bloods. Absolutely zero identity. Even as a fallen off team they don’t exist.
It depends maybe the same song and dance happens next year and Ohio State could be in the final again and still lose to Michigan again next year Michigan paid underwood and he will start no matter what next year and he could be great
the fact that this question even needs to be asked reveals the absurdity of how seriously OSU/Michigan fans take their rivalry a national championship should ALWAYS be considered 1,000 times more important than a regular season game. who cares how fierce the rivalry is
The Pre BCS, BCS, and 4 Team Playoff eras made every regular season and major bowl game important. This new 12 Team Playoff era has totally nuked the regular season’s importance. I remember watching Ga Tech/UGA multiple overtime game in Week 12 and all the announcers kept saying was even if Georgia lose they can still get into the playoffs by winning the SEC title game the next week despite being a 3 loss team. Basically they were subliminally saying that the game we were watching is meaningless. They have been slowly turning NCAA football into NCAA basketball. This is not a good thing. Well at least for people like me who held the regular season in such high regard. Sure you get an exciting couple of weeks of playoffs but at what cost? History, Tradition, pageantry, rivalries??? These regular season terms are pretty much null and void now.
Anybody thinking a regular season rivalry is bigger than a Natty is wild. Just like Saban said. They lost to Auburn and won the natty and nobody cares nor remembers.
F no. Day must go! His postgame behavior after the Michigan loss, passively watching that postgame brawl while the M coach was on the field trying to get his guys off the field revealed Day's true self, a coward, not a leader.
Bill “so whats Notre Dame in 2025”
*proceed to get 10 minutes of talk about LSU and the SEC
Can we get a Joel Anderson, Van lathan college football podcast?
@@jackmanning1044 we need it!!
Don’t joke around like that.
No joke. Can't handle this many Landman ads. I've seen over 30 of them in the past couple days watching Bill's contnent
I gotta wonder how effective that marketing strategy is lol like i get the point about landman by now move onto a different audience 😂
@Bobbleheads56 for real. I feel like a PoW being forced to listen to the same song for two weeks straight
Bill can we get Brady Quinn or someone on to talk ND? You asked a question about ND and they talked about LSU and the SEC for 10 minutes.
It's so ridiculous that Ohio St didn't have half their players get a 1 game suspension for the Michigan game. They literally had to pepper spray 20+ players and needed cop intervention. Why are they here. I guess I'm rooting for Notre Dame, can't believe I'm saying that
Seriously leaving money on the table if we don't have a Van & Joel podcast ASAP. Not since Sir Charles Holmes has someone had Van on his toes so much. Going to be hard to top this as a podcast segment of the year.
sports guy joel from missouri city and van’s damn hat. fantastic trio.
Van's hat + glasses + headphones combo is next level.
So the guy that beat Tennessee, Indiana, prnn state, oregon, Texas and will beat ND Monday for the chip is maybe still not the guy bc of michigan? You all need to stop. We dominated the. For like 20 years what's a cpl losses.
That was the conversation in Ohio State circles after the Michigan loss.
@@djacks247 To be honest, only in the radical circles. They got more attention than they should have.
bill, basically: "college football, whatever happened there?"
22:49 "Elite milk"
Bill Simmons 💀
Bill is leaving that one alone van always be saying outta pocket shit kinda funny tho how little fucks he gives i know somw girls who went to school there and like he said if its true its true.. 😂
One of the best Podcast of the year. You guys should do this at least once a week during College Football season.
Saban staying at LSU would have been scary hours. What he did with the 2003 team was crazy with a dentist at QB. And how he turned around a dumpster fire program that was going nowhere in the late 90s. Then he bounces for the NFL right when recruiting talent would have skyrocketed to match his Coaching, so he never got to capitalize on the Natty win at LSU. He'd have more titles with LSU than he won at Bama.
I’d say the only recession proof program is Ohio State. They have never had the Texas, Mich, Bama, Miami horrible stretch. Ever.
This game will not be competitive. Ohio State wins by at least 14.
And thats only going to come in garbage time.
Post bet slips.
@@manvswoodbeam how TF do you post bet slips on RUclips?
@@toryjones4305 link to an image host. Though it was rhetorical. I know that he's not smarter than Vegas and has zero credibility.
@@manvswoodbeam Let’s come back to this after the game ⏳
Fairly certain if you win the National Championship that it makes up for everything, Billy.
van and joel absolutely need a football pod. this is awesome
Was hoping for a breakdown instead I got LSU booster lol jk…
They need a college football pod...
Bill can be the moderator that doesn't really like College football and doesn't quite get all the cultural jokes between the 2 LMAO
This was good POD
Comparing losing to the defending National Champions to the App State loss is wild
hahahaa. Well, to be fair, Michigan just recorded the worst record in HISTORY for a defending national champ.
@AntonioDiMartini-i6e not sure that App State team losing to Wofford is the same as UM losing to USC.
@ Maybe not, but close. Michigan lost to Illinois and got killed by the good teams like Oregon and Texas, who Ohio State dismantled. The loss for Ohio State was just a fluke, nothing more. You know the '79 Steelers won the Superbowl and are considered one of the great teams of all time. They lost a regular season to Cincinnati, who was 4-12 that year. No one cares and everyone knows it was just a bad game for the Steelers.
Hilarious watching when Bill finally gets the milk joke. BTW I live in Scottsdale and the milk here is top tier
Best team>>>>most deserving team
This one went way off the rails
Joel is 1000% correct. LSU is Tier 2(at best)
In the last 20 years they won titles with 3 different coaches
“Elite milk” is crazy 😂
Van: "put Tua in now. I need to see him die on the field."
Then he proceeds to say go easy on lsu wtf was that😂
Yes a championship makes up for a regular season game that ended up meaning nothing
If def makes up for it to me! Don’t get me wrong you still better beat Michigan again next year or it’s gonna be all bad for him again Sadly to a a lot of Ohio at fans that wont even make up for losing to Michigan 5 times in a row
Ohio State University does not deserve a championship if they are seriously questioning the job that Ryan Day has done. Go Irish!!
Sure 🤡
Alabama won a National Championship when they lost to their rival Auburn
ELITE MILK is how I'm living in 2025.
Go Bucks til I die
I liked this , I wish it was longer
Mason Graham was Michigan’s best player but Will Johnson is right there
Plenty of Ohio State and ND alumni to talk about their teams and fanbases, instead we got 10 mins of LSU talk 🧐
Can we stop acting like regular season loses don’t matter? Yes the Michigan loss mattered, it’s the reason they were the 8 seed and had to play an additional game and the #1 seed in the second round! This notion that losses “mean less” is moronic. If anything the CFP has made the conference championship losses mean less due to the committees reluctance to punish teams who don’t win those games
Coach O, Gene Chizich, and Larry Coker have titles. Ryan Day is about to be one of them. Way better players so it doesn’t matter if the coach is bad
Those who did not grow up in the rivalry don’t really understand it. All babies born at The OSU hospital during the week of The Game get Beat Michigan swag. It’s a way to introduce the next generation to the rivalry. The schools have competitions leading up to The Game to promote service and add to the rivalry. For instance, Buckeyes say they bleed scarlet and gray, and the team up north says they bleed maize and blue. So, to see which team has more pride, we have the Blood Battle (which OSU won this year!). There are other competitions like that leading up to The Game.
There is a reason this rivalry is considered one of the best, if not the best, in college football. Go Bucks!!
You know who deserves to be champion ? whoever you guys pick
Van is an S tier ringer personality
The title of the his video was click bait
Whatever team wins this championship absolutely fkn deserves it…they will have beat 4 top 10/12 teams back to fkn back…you’re delusional to think otherwise
With OS and ND it reminds me of The U playing OS back in the day. Remember the outcome
Joel from Missouri City!!
Vans right nobody will say it right now but a lot of Ohio state fans “say” they rather beat Michigan then win a championship…
Well 🤡🤡🤡in years past you couldn’t win a championship without beating those fools but now it’s a new day
Ohio State is not “8th-ranked.” That’s their seed with two auto. bye teams elevated above them. OSU’s actual CFP ranking was 6th. So many media continue to make this mistake and confuse the casual fan. … also what’s up with rattling off five OSU players by their first names? Use the last names. Sports “journalism” is way too casual these days.
@@pcl360media I bet you love Bob Ley and Mike Greenberg
6th… so the point still stands that they would’ve missed the four team playoff last year
@@colethornton6263hahah exactly!! Not a big difference in 6 and 8 lol
@@colethornton6263 They would have jumped PSU in a 4 team playoff, they wouldn't put a 2 loss team with no good wins over a team that beat them on the road. Texas would also have been jumped by Notre Dame, they wouldn't put a team who lost twice to another playoff team over ND.
Lost to Michigan, got physically dominated
Two notes: 1) Can't believe no one has made the Wemby-Brendon Frasier in Bedazzled connection. 2)Jokic's #1 MVP case is making Westbrook relevant again.
Ohio State just has a larger margin of error... more talent, more ways to win. But Notre Dame is a well coached team that executes extremely well and takes advantage of mistakes (And causes a lot of mistakes via turnovers). So they are the perfect team to upset a team like Ohio State.
Why are we talking about football teams from 30 years ago for 2025 championship match? None of those teams are anything like Notre dame and Ohio state rn.
LOOK AT JOEL IM INSPIRED UNC
One question about ND and you talk about LSU and switch to overall SEC talk.
Using ND's name for clicks
Elite Milk lol 😂😂😂😂
Van was cooking
Nd lost there left tackle last game, nd is great just banged up
Crazy that all those teams get mentions and Oklahoma doesn’t. Oklahoma really is the odd one out amongst the blue bloods. Absolutely zero identity. Even as a fallen off team they don’t exist.
yeah, bill didn't go to a football school. Van is right, it sounds crazy but it's the truth
Yea, ND doesn't have anyone that can bust loose, or break a big play. Ok
Imagine Notre Dame
if OSU wins the championship ,and loses again to Michigan next year, do they fire him?
It depends maybe the same song and dance happens next year and Ohio State could be in the final again and still lose to Michigan again next year Michigan paid underwood and he will start no matter what next year and he could be great
Doubt he's going to start next year, definitely not right away
@@bigheff517 who else do they have? Oriji transfered and Miller transferred and the other guy was mid
the fact that this question even needs to be asked reveals the absurdity of how seriously OSU/Michigan fans take their rivalry
a national championship should ALWAYS be considered 1,000 times more important than a regular season game. who cares how fierce the rivalry is
Ohio state did not get manhandled by Michigan
How many Landman ads am I going to see lol?
How about asking Shane Gillis to talk ND?
Still rather win the natty
What conference did ND win? 🙄
30 minutes of van talking about Louisiana for the 200th time nice
The Pre BCS, BCS, and 4 Team Playoff eras made every regular season and major bowl game important.
This new 12 Team Playoff era has totally nuked the regular season’s importance. I remember watching Ga Tech/UGA multiple overtime game in Week 12 and all the announcers kept saying was even if Georgia lose they can still get into the playoffs by winning the SEC title game the next week despite being a 3 loss team. Basically they were subliminally saying that the game we were watching is meaningless.
They have been slowly turning NCAA football into NCAA basketball. This is not a good thing. Well at least for people like me who held the regular season in such high regard. Sure you get an exciting couple of weeks of playoffs but at what cost? History, Tradition, pageantry, rivalries??? These regular season terms are pretty much null and void now.
super cringe takes on ND. sad, really.
You guys are haters, lame discussion
Ohio State is obviously the best team in the country. Why was Georgia ranked #2 at the end of the year? That's the bigger mystery.
SEC inflation saying they play the best teams on their schedule which is just not true now with NIL
Maybe coz they beat Texas twice lol
because Ohio State fucking lost to Michigan and Georgia just won the SEC championship lol it’s not a mystery you’re just annoying
After the Michigan loss almost any OSU fan you ask said… the only way Day can redeem himself and stay is if he wins a natty. That’s the consensus
@@seanswerdan7639 they are sec champions and didn’t lose to a shitty Michigan team at home
Anybody thinking a regular season rivalry is bigger than a Natty is wild.
Just like Saban said. They lost to Auburn and won the natty and nobody cares nor remembers.
Van thinks being black is a pass for being unprofessional
@@IamnotJokic or being unprofessional is funny…
F no. Day must go! His postgame behavior after the Michigan loss, passively watching that postgame brawl while the M coach was on the field trying to get his guys off the field revealed Day's true self, a coward, not a leader.