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PLO Lumumba: Congo vs Rwanda. Congo war. World on Fire ep5.
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2024
- Congo is at war and this war has been ongoing for a while now. This war is caused by the availability of minerals which several countries are after. The boundaries established by the colonialists have divided the nation and further led to emergence of forces such as M23 which continue to cause instability in the region.
On this episode of LUMUMBA Explains, he shares why Congo is at war and the enablers behind the war. France has slowly been losing its grip in Africa and as a result, they're accused of financing some of the insurgencies happening across the continent to cause destabilization for their own benefits. The case of Congo is quite complex and as it stands, the country is on the jaws of danger. What next for Presidents Kagame and Tshisekendi and the two nations?
#lumumbaexplains #plolumumba #africa #kenya #theealfahouse #Congo #rwanda #congowar #france
00:20- The history of Chad
4:20 - France losing its grip in Africa.
6:28 - France desperation for Africa
8:30 - Africa awakening
10:30 - Congo, the history
15:00 - Congo conflict and its complexities
16:42 - Rwanda vs Congo and the boundaries question
18:09 - Emergence of the M23
19:20 - Factors behind the Congo war
21:05 - Tshisekedi governance and managing the Congo war.
22:12 - Conflict between Rwanda and Congo
25:18 - Congo and foreign powers trade engagements
As a young African person i must admit that Mr Lumumba ignites a passion within my guts... I'd listen to him for hours while feeling a sense of obligation to my continent.
He is a pro-Kagame biased
Plo lumumba is a luwo from kenya same as tutsis from Rwanda don't mind him
@@rukundorwiza5223 I understand, but that’s not what It should’ve been. It’s so shameful to his level.
@@omkalo4 correct
@@omkalo4 Do you think that the problems of Congo will be solved by hating Kagame and Rwandans hhhhhhh? I think it is not so.
It could be solved by the Congolese and their leaders themselves when they sit at the same table as pointed out by Prof. Lumumba, leaving tribalism aside and agreeing on the better ways of harmony. Lumumba added that it is easier said than done because he absolutely knows that Neo-colonizers will not allow their benefit to be ruined. So bros/Sis from Congo are being bedeviled and manipulated in their minds that all their problems were created by Rwanda hhhhhhhhh, guess who created these illusions and who is benefiting from them? it's time to wake up from our long dreams and put our egos aside men, otherwise, Africa will not leave on its own.
Thank you so much, I love the way you interpret History, Congo should sit and resolve the internal conflict instead of always blaming it's neighbors.❤
Problems of congo is FDLR interahamwe , why congo refuse to send them in rwanda?
Africa will never be free until Congo is free !!!!!
Free your mind first. Africa will never be free not until we free our minds. Africa must stop finger pointing out on everyone and everything over everything.
It's time we own the present reality by facing it head on.
The sick African mentality of always blaming the West over everything is a clear sign of a defeated weak mind.
Congo will never be free until her leaders are free
The leaders don’t have patriotism. They are all there for money.
The main question remains: who benefits from the crime? And the answer is: the multinationals, Rwanda and Uganda.
@@Salum-sz1fk They benefits because DRC doesn’t have leaders. It has thieves as leaders. Congolese 🇨🇩 politicians are the most corrupt in the whole world. It’s all about themselves. They don’t care about the population at all.
I just have a question to PLO Lumumba on his conclusion. If really what he says it true. Why was Bisengimana, a Munyamulenge, a chef of cabinet of President Mobutu if Banyamulenge were not recognized as Congolese? Why is it only in 1990s that this issue of rwandophones arised in the DR Congo and not before? Why is it that these rwandophones still occupy high position posts in all sectors in the Congolese gouvernement/institutions if they are not recognized as congolesed? I am a little bit disappointed by the PLO Lumumba's view on this matter. He should do more research if he really want to help. The issue of banyamulenge is just a scapegoat to destabilize the DR Congo. Because Banyamulenge lived in Congo in peace until the balcanization plan of the DR Congo was placed on table for its execution, it was then the Banyamulenge were placed at stake to ignite this evil plan. The balcanization plan failed and has turned into ethnic conflict as consequences. Stop all illigal transit and trafficking of minerals through neighbouring countries and the conflict will cease by its own. You should know that DRC has many tribes and all are minorities and should be treated equally and without favoritisme. Whatsoever these people are talking about the DR Congo should know that balcanization of DR Congo is the source of this instability. As once achieved, DR CONGO will bleed even more. Africans open your eyes and do not shop misleading information so cheap just to please some individuals 😢
The balkanisation slogan has been chanted for very long time to deflect the real issue of DRC conflict , all those 100+ arms groupe belong to the Congolese politicians they all benefit from the conflict by extracting minerals and provide safe passage for the export out of the RDC , Congolese leadership does not have the will to end this crises because they are bomber one who are benefiting in illegal mining trading. other issues like balkanisation, foreign interference are just scapegoat to hide they are greed and corrupt mindsets
Bisengimana Rwema - not Rwakabuba...
Prof definitely needs to do sole more research on thé topic
@@juniorboweya splits the truth and you can't handle that
And why is that only banyamulenge and Tutsis being targeted since 19's?
They are being chased away, called strangers in their own country.
Why not other tribes Sir?
Why only them?
Is that because of balkanization that people are being burnt and eaten?
Why and why?
@@kigaliashram434 read very well the history, many tribe and ethics has been fighting for long time lendu massacre hema and so one, those 100+ arms group belong to Congolese politicians who are on minerals trading , they are using ethics cleansing to maintain the chaos so that their business continues to flourish,
Congo peoples wake up as Nigeri have wake up and protect their resources ✊🏾
It's a matter of time. They will wake up and will find their paths. I am so convinced these guys from DRC are going into a molding process for freedom and strength. They will get there. This Giant will raise and surprise.
The story fits all countries inafrikastates they're xosa in zim they're Zimbabwean people relocate allover the world tis silly them hating kagame heis not guilty of any thing them tsutsi a in drc are drc tutti come on people let's embrace 1another every one came from somewhere that's it
@peterokalo
Thank you brother for your concern and love, but you are late because Congolese are already awake. They have been fighting so hard alone. International media refuses to show the truth and the reality of what has been going on.
Just type "Incendie a la Gare de Lyon, concert Fally Ipupa." You will see what Congolese peoples are able to do or they have been doing to let the whole world know about the injustices that they are enduring. Kongo will eventually be free and once Kongo is free, the whole Africa is free!! God bless the Bantu peoples🙏🏿
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@@rossilimbaya1744even this professor lumumba said m23 is right I can't believe this,😢😢😢
@@ajn9087 he's corrupted and pro kagame just like Thabo mbeki, but what they forget is that the truth is stubborn and always prevails no matter what!!!
With all my respect to PLO 's thoughts on Africa, I would suggest going back and revisiting his books/notes and doing the fact-checking when it comes to Congo 🇨🇩 's situation. Yes the borders were inherited from the colonials, but think of why the conflicts always involve one ethnic group that is Tutsi when we know that North Kivu has a large population of Hutus of Rwandophone, South Kivu has a large population of Bashi that are present mainly in DRC and in Rwanda of course not large population like in DRC. In addition, we have an ethnic group called Bavila Burundophone, that lives in both Burundi and DRC, just to ask you a question: Why always only one community involved in uprising since 1996? Prof PLO the truth is that Rwandan speaking community have lived peaceful in DRC of course some minor ethnic tensions never missed, but the latter never involved a large scale blood shed as the 1996 when Rwanda and Uganda invaded DRC under the umbrella of AFDL under the pretext of protecting the Banyamulenge population that were facing a genocide threat. This war ended up toppling Mobutu regime and installed a new regime of Mzee Desire Kabila who was their face value in the eyes of every Congolese and foreigners until 1998 when President Kabila decided to send them back to their countries. Immediately a new rebel group was formed under the name of RCD fully supported by Rwanda. A few years they changed the name into CNDP a Tusti rebel group under Kagame's command a few years later after some misunderstanding between Tutsi that were tired of war and others that wanted to keep fighting the government then a new movement under the name of M23!! All these groups were fully sponsored by Rwanda and now in 2024 a highly respected Professor like PLO is blaming the government of Congo to be the source of the conflict!! President Kagame is the mastermind of violence in the region since 1990 when they invaded Rwanda with hope of expanding their ruthless Tisti empire to DRC regardless of the human suffering. Prof PLO remember that you always talk about panafricanism, if you claim to be one then you need to be one for real. Speaking the truth, honest opinions and virtuous actions that is what I think will deliver Africans from their self created economic, social and political backwardness!
, all those 100+ arms groupe belong to the Congolese politicians they all benefit from the conflict by extracting minerals and provide safe passage for the export out of the RDC , Congolese leadership does not have the will to end this crises because they are the one who are benefiting in illegal mining trading. other issues like balkanisation, foreign interference are just scapegoat to hide they are greed and corrupt mindsets
Don't say what you don't know, are you informed about those rebel groups who are formed by DRC government to whip or to kill all kinyarwanda speakers?
Hhhhhh ask yourself that question !
Are
Banyamulenge killed today in the presence of by the government Congolese that sponsor Mai Mai to drive them
Away?
You have annulled many banyamulenge villages with his people now they are forgotten, you only speak about your own people to justify the massive killing you are perpetrating against banyamulenge tribe.
@@muhirwajonathan7602 victim card ,while u the one who cause the trouble...nobody can just attacking anyone just bcz of their tribe ,the should be a reason, we all black ,banyamulenge are not special ,to be given a specail treatment
God bless you, great man
My favourite speaker PLO lumumba pan Africa
Viva Mama Africa
Much respect to the best Pan-African son who speaks the truth.
Thank you so much for your kind words, I truly appreciate your support!
PLO Lumumba, I really like and appreciate your eloquence and as a young African who is also aware, I take you for a source of inspiration but for the history of my country, the DRC, you missed the point and you gave me the impression of believing that you too are like the remains who begin to be used by Westerners, the war in the East of the DRC has long since ceased to be an ethical war,, it has become for decades an opportunity for multinationals, politicians and Westerners continue to plunder and enrich themselves from natural and mineral resources. how can you make us understand today that Rwanda is considered a coltan producing and exporting country? Westerners and many international mining organizations use Kagame as a bridge to continue to loot the DRC, the M23 group is a Rwandan armed group supported by the Kagame regime to constantly continue to regenerate the war in the East of the DRC and you should know that we Congolese are fed up of negotiations with the Rwandans which lead to absolutely nothing, the only solution is to also attack Rwanda which is a visible enemy for us. professor with all due respect, I advise you to carefully review your sources of information.
Attacking Rwanda? Could that be the solution for the ongoing conflict? You started well, but the ending is not! Let's all stand as African and look for the solution of what is happening toe our continent.
@@umulisabatetachantal7812
I am congolese,
The honorable Prof Lumumba, the beloved Lumumba who taught me the verb "To magulify"; this Prof today is out of the situation in DRC. His knowledge of this conflict is closed to ZERO. Sorry for the Prof but this is the score I give him..
Our President Felix during the first days of his power, told DRC people that Banyamulenge are congolese even though they do not have lands.
They came in DRC few time before and after independance, reason why they do not have any land in DRC. They came as refugees with time
The proof that they are recognized as congolese is that there is a Minister who is munyamulenge (tutsi DRC). Mister GISARO is Minister of infrastructure, he is Tutsi.
But, but, the war we are living in DRC is from Rwanda, Mister Lumumba, go and read Charles ONANA book. Look for information you find that your knwoledge is ZERO on this situation.
Your understanding of the war is very superficial and it is influenced by Rwanda propaganda.
Do you know that RDF Rwandan army soldiers have been arrested in DRC, and they have been arrested many times with theirs ID. Are aware of that? Yes or No??, Tell us dear Prof Lumumba.
For this time dear Prof Lumumba you are out of the situation.
Please go and read again.
For the first time, I am astonished of how is this video, this speech.
You are pan africanist, but the white people plan for DRC is out of your reach and I am sad for you.
Prof go and read again, listen to Charles ONANA the franco-cameroon conferences. He has written on Rwanda genocid, you will have good understanding of the Rwandan war in DRC.
ruclips.net/video/WjsO7doMA1M/видео.htmlsi=RRc9v__BGnvDi6iU
This Lumumba is a tool of the west under disguise. People need to start picking on people like him because its a new way of misleading Africans. You cant support Kagame and call yourself a panafricanist.
Nonsense
Microsoft Lumumba I'm from Republic Democratic of Congo but I'm very happy for a great knowledge to give to me or to us we'll make sure and will never let you adverse to fall down and soon with God you will see the real the reality God bless you remember a good Kenyan God bless us as Congolese see you soon in victory
SIR, YOU ARE THE BEACON OF LIGHT FOR OUR CONTINENT OF AFRICA. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO STRENGHTEN YOU AND ALL YOUR EFFORTS!
Wrong assessment. You are all wrong. Sorry to tell you that professor. Go do your homework. In the beginning of the DRC congo, Stanley who dealt with chiefs of lands in RDC put together 450 tribes to create the DRC as a nation. Meaning there is no tribe on the RDC soil without land. Tutsi population were brought to the RDC thru specific immigration programs organized by Belgians to build infrastructure in katanga, north kivu and every where else. Also some came to DRC as refugees because they were running away from the fight against Hutu in Rwanda. In conclusion, they can't never claim land in the DRC since the come from a foreign country some as refugees and other as foreigner workers. Also, you need to make the difference between seeking for nationality and owning land by ancestors in a country, which can never happen in kenya where you are from (where I also lived) Somali who can there since decades became kenyans by process without owning lands by ancestors... That's how you have to approach the DRC issues with those comers. The war in Congo is purely economical. You cant impose trade to a sovereign country just because you have army groups the congolese need to defend their independence to death. Your speech is very subjective when you talk about creating trade environment. This need to be done in respect of international rules and interest of the sovereign country that leads this process. The biggest issue with the DRC is a poor leadership, a weak security and army forces and corruption to address definitely these matters. Great leadership will fix this administration problem and will strengthen the immigration process for everyone at once. For that, congolese don't need foreigners to do so because of the sovereignty and the dignity coming out of this process. They will figure it out...they just need to find their "leader". Whatever you will try that will not be aligned with what I explained above , will never bring sustainable peace. I know this country better than you, I know how people think in their deepest hearts... 😊 You don't really know how determined and motivated these congolese dudes are to end up this situation in their advantage. Stay alive , you will learn more from them😅.
Try to be real dear, if those rwandans were brought to Katanga since then, lived there for mining, why this war is happening in eastern congo not in Katanga? Did you know that they got married to congolese women and are now real congolese now? Let all of them back with their sons, daughters and their properties if you don't need them any more. You hate is big and will never end.
Wrong assessment is from you who don't have any clue about DRC history, I really encourage you to do basic research about Congolese banyarwanda before coming here to write nonsense ,
@@karambizibenjamin4368 thats the point: DRC is surrounded by 9 countries and they experience these community reality of each of these inherited borders where there are ba Kongo from Brazzaville , Ba zombo from Angola and Ba ngala from CAR who are also minority but never bring this kind of nosense issues. Angolans who came during their wars, went back to their country peacefully. Those who decided to stay went thru proper Naturalization processes and still remained in the DRC. All 450 DRC tribes are minority coming together to stay without seeking for special treatment. We have Sudanese in Djugu and Aru who never bring issue since these colonialism borders issues were resolved and they decided to stay without any concern and married congolese women. Why only Tutsi minority group? Because those who came from Rwanda have agenda and wanted to use those they found in the East as puppets to be instrumentalized for their invasion goal. We grew up with Tutsi in the DRC until 1994: most of their political leaders were educated with the Congolese scholarships and government money. No one bordered them until 1994 when we noticed that they all decided to go back to Rwanda and returned in the DRC as militaries with AFDL. Then who hate who?
@@user-xo7cs1dd4b no time to waste with BS. Speaking a language does not give the nationality of the country of the language...otherwise everyone speaking english will be either from UK or USA.
@@MalinGenie12 go and read history books otherwise it's a waste of time arguing with you
It's unfortunate that you don't understand that Kagame is standing there for westerners
I think you luck proper information please revise the roit cause
These things you are saying you'll tell to people who don't know history and geopolitics will agree otherwise the truth is known well
You’re right Brother.the agenda here is HIMA EMPIRE.that why east Africa community didn’t succeed in Drc Congo because they see kagame he is one of theme.Museveni too.they can never fight for Bantu which is Congolese people.
You see Tanzania they didn’t go there because they the agendas of East Africa community.
In the Days come congo will come out for your rubbish East Africa
And you think you know much about it more than Prof Lumumba?? Why do you hate the truth??
@@nganjigracien8486 lumumba he is doing what they paying him.not because he want to unite African but because kagame pay him money to do his propaganda.the sem like Tabu mbeki of South Africa
Please stop using Lumumba's name to make yourself useful. You know nothing about the Congo, so focus on your Malawi instead of talking garbage about our country. Saying that the Banyamulenge and the M23 are Congolese shows that you work for the enemies of the Congo.
And you think enemies of Congo are outside from Congo they are inside Congo so better you seek for fellow Africans support to cleanse your mess! We need a United Africa without hatred for anybody!
@@UJCaleb still M23 are not Congolese for its major part , they are most of them foreigners folks most of from Rwanda !!!
I think p.lumumba has made it clear that he is reciting the Assertions of Nyerere in regards to the Bamyamulenge. Its not his research & findings in the matter but a recitation of a politician
@@Kassiusday They are congolese 100% whether you like it or not.
He is a disgrace
Just by listing to him i understand which side is rolling with.
A so called wise man... It's sad to see how much energy everyone is using trying to make people understand they know Congo better than ourselves
As a Congolese I am usually amazed by these so called African expert Who always think they can teach us Congolese our own history and make us accept painful stupidity. I will listen before I can make a full comment.
@@joeae6297 he's been told stories as usual on TV books and others and decided to get a camera and record his stupidity.
They want to impose us their narrative of banyamulenge Congolese and the kagame dark agenda.
They decided use any means to put this make up in heads of those listening to them and believing they've got the right story to tell
You don’t know the history of your country.
If yes you couldn’t be denying banyamulenge their rights via mass killings of Tutsi.
I can listen him all day speaking about Africa... He is just the best
Spreading lies doesn't help African course. Is he aware that nyerere was a tutsi, from musoma in Tanzania, and therefore was never gonna be neutral. Mr Lumumba must tell us what is the original language of tutsies? Because kihutu or kinyarwanda belong to hutus people. Do yr research
Prof with all respects don't support rwandese, it's better to keep quiet than to talk lies. We know you Kenyan supporting M23. But you must know that they will be defeated.. tshisekedi is not kabila.
This war will end in Rwanda
ruclips.net/video/WjsO7doMA1M/видео.htmlsi=RRc9v__BGnvDi6iU
Look at what your govt is doing and you shall blame Rwandan govt afterwards
PLO Lumumba is a peacemaker with his words as we should all humble ourselves to the history of the Congo, and how the conflict has escalated thus far. Give Thanks
As a Congolese pan-African, I advise you to not accept the narrative of PLO on Congo vs Rwanda. He has a bias pro-Kagame, and he’s very mis-informed on the issues. It’s disappointing
@@lelkaya7912 a bias does not invalidate the history of the region. Perhaps more dialogue should be had on who is who and how to resolve the conflict, rather than denounce a voice willing to bring it to light.
What he said fuel up now the war, it's Congolese against the world, you receive a visitor in your house bcz he stayed longer now he want to inherit your house that belong to your children and I come in and say to the kids yes this man has to take half of it. How stupid the sage is????
It is a shame to see such a man lie this much. If the m23 are Congolese than why is Rwanda all up in their business? How come a tutsi so-called rebellion have a non-tutsi head? We the people from Eastern DRC know very well who our enemies are. Kagame and his regime are the killers of our families, agents of external forces that want a permanently troubled congo. We had over 30 years of peace in congo. Things started to go southwards as soon as Paul Kagame appeared on the scene. Who were his main supporters in the west? Tony Blair and Bill Clinton. Now Kagame rolls with France too protecting French Total oil interests in Mozambique. Also, see the mess with that Rwandan Mushikiwabo as head of the OIF (international organisation of francophone countries) even though rwanda ditched french and adopted english as the official language. Her nomination coincided with the deployment of Rwandan troops in Mozambique.
This man doesn't deserve to bear the name Lumumba because he has been bribed to speak against the great Patrice LUMUMBAs nation. He is an enemy of Congo and therefore an enemy of Africa.
Prof Lumumba is out dated oon this conflict or he has choosen his side; the Rwand side, the side of 11 millions killers; he ignored these lives killed by Kagame and hiw plan. How can PLO ignore this? Sad for Africa; Even those we were relying on!!!!
Very sad.
Thank you for acknowledging the truth, of the situation.❤
With all due respect to professor Lumumba, a person that I have always admired through his multiple speeches in connection with Africa/Pan Africanism, I feel let down that there is no mention of the millions of people that have been killed and especially the manner in which people being killed. There have been more than 7 millions or more people that have been killed and almost 3.5 millions of people who have left their homes and livelihood. They now live in refugees camps away from their natural homes. And what is happening is that their lands are being taken away from them and allowed to be occupied by the Rwanda army.
And of course it is all about the minerals. So for the professor not to mention or show concerns about lives that are being wasted for economical gains, professor is only talking about the Congo government to recognise les banyamulenge as Congolese as if those millions of people who are dying mean nothing.
I am shocked 😲.
He is a nilote he doesn't care bantous
Lumumba plo is a nilote he is on side of kagame Tutsi and museveni nilote
hhh you people are amazing!! why do you always like to classify people!! always talking about Nilots, bantus, Cushits, .... and everyone who says the truth is going to be a Nilot!!!@@abeidkhamis6130
I’m a Munyamulenge -Congolese , we have been there for more than 500yrs now but you are too lazy if not dogmatic to learn from history 🥲
Here mentioning the root cause of it all, why would you want him to say something not documented in history?
Mr Lumumba, I don't trust you anymore, keep ignoring the truth na tumeshajua unamfania nani kazi ya kuuza africa halafu unajifanya unajua kuongea! Good luck
aaaah Wacha zako bhana
UNASEMA ukweli. Hawa wote, waongo tuu
P. O Lumumba has remained in the history. If the actual war in East of Congo is Congolese affair... How do you explain the Rwanda Defense Forces soldiers arrested deep in the Congo fighting along the so cald M23? Where in this world did you see a small rebel group have missiles to attack jet fighter and latest machine guns? I will have to remind the opinion that those wipons are only sold to states.. Not to individuals or a group of people
True and if those people are Congolese why kill their own people and not by Rwanda is talking about them
22:45 You can easily identify that he has a pro-Kagame bias. He repeats Rwandan narratives without analyzing it.
you guys you don't know politics how can they capture an RDF will your soldiers can not even capture a normal thief hhh can you even say one or two what a Hollywood movie I usually watch in Congo
@@omkalo4The Congolese and the entire Southern Africa's tragedy started with Mobutu, long before the emergence of Kagame.
@@Om-mw5lb Although I’ve never liked Mobutu, let’s be fair. Did Mobutu ever authorized the shooting down of a jet carrying 2 presidents of 2 differents countries? Did Mobutu take part in killings of millions of civilians in 4 countries? Mobutu was, indeed, at the beginning a western agent but P. Kaga is an agent of a higher level of crualty. Let’s stop shifting the blame.
Thank you Sir Prof- LUMUMBA. The most Afirican Son of all generations to learn from you.
Sorry Professor you were very poorly informed about the situation in Eastern Congo. M23 are Rwandan military fighters who come to Congo rapping women and young girls, killing innocent civilians and stealing minerals to line up the pockets of Kagame…. If they were true Congolese, even they had a reason to do so, they could not do what they are doing to their own brothers and sisters.
😂😂😂 False narratives are confusing you. Dont externalise the Congolese governance failures
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Watch the video and tell me whose at fault
@@rwivanga73 FDRL is responsible 😂
Mr Lumumba your statement is partially correct. Can you explain to people the connection between genocide in Rwanda and 10 million people killed in Congo since 1997? Can you contradict the many UN reports on Rwandan involvement in the cricis...You are not welcome informed exactly as Mwalimu Nyerere, peace to his soul...
Who is killing who the banyamurenge are being killed by a combined FDLR and other extremist stop relaying on the media look for facts
DRC president Mobubu was pro-Habyalimana (former president of Rwanda) to prepare and implement genocide against Tutsi in 1994. When the genocidaire government and army defeated by RPF, Mobutu welcomed them and promised to attack Rwanda. Those genocidaires fled to eastern DRC and keep their genocide ideology and supported the DRC leaders. That’s the root cause of all problems in the region but nowadays it becomes a propaganda tool for weaker countries where accusing Rwandan leaders to mask their ignorance and weakness to work for their citizens. You can also search former president of SA, HE Mbeki, his concerns about the situation in the region is well documented.
You people you are filled with propaganda he said everything what you call true congolese and FDLR have been killing Tutsi congolese over 30 years but you still play victims what a shameful act
@@kagabopaul3126 Explain to me why a so-called group of Congolese has to kill millions of others to be accepted? Please have a look at the mapping report and many books by Charles Onana. Congolese had never been genociders. Genocide occurred in Rwanda, between Rwandese and Congolese who welcome them are paying the heavy price! Those sources are not Congelese's.
He’s a tool of kagame
Prof hasn't enough informations about what's realy happening...
No one deniers congolese nationality to congolese tutsis. Do you know thé tutsis are the ones with thé highest number if army generals in thé DRC?
Thé problem in eastern Congo is more economic than everithing else
The government of congo
Is killing banyamulenge since 2015 in pattern-ship with Mai Mai That president Felix named reservists to reward them for those killings they have been perpetrating.
This guy was paid to speak like that, Kagame has been building up these people for this propaganda to prepare the world opinion toward him
Don't be naive. He has got all the information. He is lying for money
If there generals in your army but why they burnt in tyres by accusing them that are Rwandans is you who don't have information not proffeseur
And you here saying that they had nationality
Prof.Lumumba , what you said about Congo and Rwanda ist wrong . Tutsi and Hutu tribes are only in Rwanda and Burundi .we congoleses , we know our history.Tutsi came to Congo as refugees and some of them came to work in the mining.there is no tribe named Banyamulenge.Mulenge is mountain : Banyamulenge means; children of mountain Mulenge so it is fake name .the problem in the region is Kagame ,once Kagame dead ,this problem will be over.Tutsi and Hutu are not congoleses, we will fight for our land till you kill us all.what you said is big lie from Kagame.we know the history of congo ,you cann never change it at all.
Fuct
I just wasted my precious time reading this nonsense .Get out dogma and slavery ignorance and learn the history of Congo.
Tutsi and Hutu continue to hate and kill yourselves in Rwanda,Congo will never be your country ,in congo we are comitted to sack Tshisekedi from the power,so that we can get rid of Kagame the autor of genocide in Rwanda and the killer of the conglese people. Kagame dead,the whole region will be calm again like the time Mobutu and Abiarimana were in the power Kagame is working for american imperialists,they will kill him very soon.None of you can change the histoy of congo ,we have books and documentories ,like films and videos that we can show the whole world how Tutsi came in our country and how we gave them hospitality...but now they turn against us through Kagame@@niyonkuruhassan8336
@@niyonkuruhassan8336 you're the one who needs to read the history man, you know nothing.mulenge is a mountain in south kivu.
Even fuliro
Is a
Mountain and uvira is a mountain,
Bubembe is a mountain.
PLO Lumumba you don't deserve to bear the name of Lumumba who fought and died for the freedom of Congo. From now on, this name will be a curse over your life. That name shall fight you till you respect the righteous fight of Congolese peoples.
You said all of these things just because he said what you didn't want to hear 😆😆
You are right, Lumumba is in Kagame's pocket, a joke! A lawyer who does not know the evil nature of Kagame is a curse for Africa, disgusting!
@@pepeinno9336 How can you dare to say the president is evil, the evil is just you , please stop putting Kagame in this mess conflicts in Congo.
Find solutions as Congolese to you issues but don't bring other people in your problems maybe that's why your issues never get solved
Congolese killed Lumumba just like they are killing Tutsi Congolese. PLO deserves the name Lumumba because he stands for what Lumumba stood for. The current leaders of the DRC are no different from Mobutu and others who came after. Their failure to ensure safety of their own citizens is regrettable. Its a failed state with a failed leader
Purely honest! If the Kinshasha regime continues to sideline Banyalenga as Congolese and fail to address the Intarahamwe and ADF menaces, a Munyamulenga will become President in DRC and then DR Congo will become peaceful forever.
Congo has 450 ethnic groups, why would they have a problem with one of those groups? And who is kagame that thinks he can invade a sovereign nation to come and help one of those groups? Guys Congolese know well that the problem is not M23 or kagame, the problem are those Europeans and US that want to take our minerals. M23 and kagame are being used. As Africans we should understand that there will never be a better Africa without a strong Congo 🇨🇩. Congo is the heart of Africa!
Don't propagate rumours my dear friend, kindly make a strong research on this conflict you will find the big issue is Congolese government which works together with Western countries and China for only benefits of those countries and Congolese leaders.
The m23 has banyarwanda blood and we don't oversee violence taking place, especially when we are targeted, these ikinyarwanda speaking Congolese they managed to seek for their justice as well as self protection. Unless you want other groups to be on their feet and seek their right of peace and nationality just as Ikinyarwanda speaking people.
PLO Lumumba is a disgrace to the name Lumumba…but it doesn’t surprise me to see him stand with the false Rwandan Tutsis narrative against 10 million people died in Congo and 1 million dead in Rwanda, the Tutsis supremacist regime in both Congo and Rwanda has done nothing to help make their presence in both mentioned countries welcome, given the fact that they have shed more blood of their counterparts for reasons of powers, above everything PLO is a Luo; a Nilotic tribe and therefore he’s biased about the issue in Congo and Rwanda, that’s a reputation for most Nilotic fanatics
YOU GOT IT WRONG when it's about CONGO. You are talking like the TUTSI problem started in CONGO! WHY WAS THERE A GENOCIDE IN RWANDA in which NO CONGOLESE took part!!
EXACTLY - WHY DO THESE TUSTI GUYS THINK THAT THEY WILL RULE EAST AFRICA BY THE FORCE OF THE GUN - PEOPLE WAKE UP NOW OR NEVER??
You are talking about the tutsi Rwandans that fled the genocide, he's talking about the tutsi Rwandans that found themselves in the land that is congo now, when there was the 1884 partitioning of Africa in the Berlin conference.
@@edmondmukunde2785 Where are those TUTSIS? In RUTSHURU or ITOMBWE which are 300KM apart? Where are the so called BANYAMULENGE the M23 is fighting for? In North or South KIVU ? You think you are smart?
When the truth is said listen instead of avoiding it. DRC won't have peace untill the congolese will understand that the Rwandofone of EDRC are congolese too. Failure not to accept them as congolese expect no peace ever.
There was a genocide against Tutsi in Rwanda because the same ideology congo has towards Tutsi is the same ideology hutu in Rwanda had and it is rooted in colonialisation where belgians started a propaganda that Tutsi are foreigners in their own ancestors'land,Tutsi were against colonisation and wanted colonisers to get out which led the colonizers to start that propaganda so they can kick out Tutsi and keep the country to themselves as they viewed hutu very submissive to the colonisers and hoped if hutu are in power they will continue colonisation by ruling the country through hutu ,so colonisers killed Tutsi kings and royal officials and put hutu in power and that's when hutu and colonizers started to kill Tutsi with the aim of exterminating them so they can keep the country to themselves and that is the same ideology in congo,congo was colonized by the same belgians with that ideology and it has embraced the hutu genocidaires and are still working together to this day to kill Tutsi in congo.
You are biased OR mistaken on your analysis with reference to alleging that the government of DRC is maligning M23 as non Congolese.
Why don't you make wider research other than relying on hearsays. Your personality shouldn't be compromised by selfish politicians dear professor.
That's right. It's just hearsays from rwandese gvts agents!
Do you think that you Know History than him?you keep on denying the truth.Sit ,learn and hear tabombeki's statement,late Julius nyelele président of tanzania.Are they children not to Know the History of Drc?Don't follow thé false Propaganda of irresponsible leaders
They are all sell out their white master and puppet master PK
Twahirwa waretse kweli ko nawe uzi ukuri neza ese mubona ibyo murimo bizashoka ibyo ujye ubizana kumbura bwenge nkamwe muyobya ariko abantu bazi geopolitique na histoire ntabwo mwababeshya kabisa
He has greatly dissapointed me with his arm chair geopolitician take
Mr. Lumumba, there are days I'm scared our common history has been erased. I am happy to finally hear someone talking sense and putting the issues back into their original context. But now Mr. Lumumba, how long will it take before everyone forgets...Education levels in Congo and West Congo are plunging and we might be at the loosing end. Or we take the approach Europe took, we refuse the borders as they are and enforce standards on good governance, human rights such as access to water, education (and the infrastructures that go with it). We need to first trade with ourselves, before exporting goods.
To my dear older brother PLO We do have Bemba in the DRC and Zambia, Tshokwe in the DRC and Angola, Teke and Kongo in the DRC and Congo Brazaville, and so on. For the record, the DRC shares ethnic groupings with all nine of its surrounding nations. You are misrepresenting the status of people in the Eastern Congo. Why does the DRC not face the same problems with other countries as it does with Rwanda at the moment? With over 450 different ethnic groups in our country DRC, coexisting together was not an issue prior to 1994. How come you are unable to tell us the full story of KAGAME's rise to prominence? Who is standing behind him? What sort of goal was it given to accomplish in the DRC?
Even though the west opposes and won't tolerate a united and stable Democratic Republic of the Congo, you fail to show a connection between KAGAME, who is carrying out the wishes of these evildoers in the Eastern part of DRC, and their wishes. The only issue we have with our dear fellow Africans, the Tutsis, in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is their hunger for power at any costs. No one has refused them the Congolese nationality. There are more Tutsis generals in our army than any other ethnic group in DRC.
We have had enough of the African leaders' hypocrisy; the conflict in the Eastern Democratic Republic has claimed the lives of over 10 million innocent people. However, when discussing the genocide in Rwanda, people tend to forget that the masterminds of that crime are savoring the spoils and using them to further their own agenda of plundering the Democratic Republic of the Congo. No matter what the rest of Africa says or does, we will not give up until the Democratic Republic of the Congo is free. PLO You mention that Rwanda is prepared for conflict with the DRC; let me assure you that Rwanda is not receiving backing from NATO or any other evildoers. Rwanda can't face the DRC forces in a day. I'm waiting on you to explain to the rest how the Americans function in Africa regions with head of states? President Ruto serves as the American representative in Eastern Africa, while Kagame, who succeeded Mobutu in Central Africa, does the same. That little job has a three-decade cycle, and soon you'll see America's newest puppet in central Africa. INGETA La patrie ou la mort.
He forgot to ask why this same issue doesn't happen with hutu leaders.
Get your facts right. Dont be a blind advocate of govt policy. Tutsi congolese in DRC have been detained, tortured, burnt and sometimes eaten. The interahamwe with whom you work have alot of innocent blood on their hands. Get your politics right.
You really understand the story of this conflict bro🇨🇩💗💗j'ai les larmes aux yeux...Merci
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Before 96 there was no big issues, all of these problems are results of wars.
Tortured by who. They have the most high ranks in the army in Congo. Congo. Are they torturing themselves?@@rwivanga73
I think the professor's team should work alot on research to provide much information about Rwandese in congo, there is no tutsi people or tribe in congo land, the so called Banyamulenge are not Congolese, because we have names of 450 tribes of Congo and there is none of the tutsi in,
So stop following the media propaganda,
TUTSI BANYAMULENGE are not Congolese, if even Congo government recognizes them today, tomorrow we will dismiss them.
This war will be long and popular
If God is being done and are not congolese so what do you want on their land guys stop the bullshit most of the eastern congo part their names are even kinyarwanda names but due to the establishment of AU they said let us respect the colonial borders and that's how banyamulenge and other tutsis even hutus still find themselves in Congo.But why do we call it Tutsi cleanse it's because you only kill tutsi calling them rwandese but you still call hutus congolese what's that
brother you closing your eyes on one point he mentioned.
yes they are not natively congolese. yes i agree with you, but see when the borders were separated by colonizers, some Rwanda part has been added to big congo and other to Uganda. from that time the people on the land been forced to be called congolese.
so if native congolese don't want them, then let them go with their land, otherwise accept them and build the nation together,
tribes are toxic.
Then you should not cry when war bites at you. go and fight for that evil cause and see how far it will get you in deep trouble. Accept the panafrican view of a united africa without tribal and ethnic divisions. See successful nations and emulate. Congo is killing itself
@@rwivanga73we shall see they will be peace for wicked 😂😂😂
@@mreddygino land was added to Congo, history says they immigrated to Congo in the 19s century, years later the boundaries were placed which was in 1885. Now tell me did they come with the land or with the cows?
I have been always an admirer of prof Lumumba but I must admit I am quite disappointed this time of his stance on the Congolese conflict. Him and Thabo mbeki have the Rwandan - kagame's narrative. There is no tribe called banyamulenge in condo's archives. Because of those borders he makes mention, we have bemba people in Zambia and congo; we have kongo in Brazzaville and Angola so forth. None of these countries invade congo on the pretense of protecting bemba or kongo. So why does kagame invade congo pretending to protect a tutsi manority ? It's false pretense. He is invading congo for its minerals. And it's sad to see prof lumumba and comerade mbeki buy into kagame's narrative
He is very dangerous and is poisoning the minds of Africans. Totally a typical western tool. He is not a panafricanist and people need to start spotting people like him with false information and denounce them. Rwanda is clean and clear involved in DRC. There is plenty of evidences about that. Why is he scared to denounce Kagame??!! To me he sounds like he is pro Balkanization low key. And we all know what that means to DRC😢
Prof Lumumba, you are not well informed when you reduce the conflict of DRC vs Rwanda to the DRC government denying Banyamulenge the right of citizenship. You don't know that
among DRC rwandophone majority is bantu hutus, far less represented in the DRC government compared to tutsi rwandophones of whom some members are being manipulated by Kagame regime to make noise and shout genocide. You do not know that they are many Rwandans who infiltrated DRC and falsly claim to be Congolese. M23 refuses to comply with Luanda and Nairobi accords because those Rwandans in M23 would would be identified. Kagame skillfully and successfully ingeneered Rwandan genoside and sacrificed his fellow tutsis for power ( ntawe urya umuleti atamenye amagi = you can eat omollette without breaking eggs, as per Rwandan Patriotic Front dignatory Tito Rutaremara). Kagame is trying to use the same genocide card in eastern DRC, to balkanise the area, with western powers who are using Kagame to plunder DRC minerals. Please Prof Lumumba, do not be so simplistic as you repeat the same speech as Tabo Mbeki who used to call Kagame , "my son". Honestly, Kagame is a dangereous man, not only for Rwanda and the region of the great Lakes, but also for the whole Africa. I am a Rwandan speaking of what I know for sure. The solution to eastern DRC conflict is to force Kagame pull out his troops and accept to negociate with FDLR members whom he falsly incriminate of committing genicide in Rwanda.
Prof PLO hasn’t understood the M23, Mr PLO track this Movement back from AFDL you will understand that it working for the western interests. Tutsi is just an Alibi
@Rugirakagigimutoka..are you mad because he is not buying your lies?he is speaking the truth wether you like or not.
Prof. Lumumba thanks for being a true Pan-Africanist ,honest and integrity on the root cause of the wars in the Eastern DR Congo. DR Congo should not marginalirise and discriminate against it's people , M23 are Kinyarwanda speaking Tutsi Congolese freedom fighters, with discrimination and tribalism DR Congo will never have peace and it will always fight loosing wars. First blame the colonists who demarcated boarders, if the DR Congo doesn't want to accept them as it's people ,it should chase them together with their land. It seems some people are just haters, jealous and against the rapid and success development taking place in Rwanda as a country.
Wrong about tribes
Well done Professor! You are a very intelligent man and your words must build and not divide Africa. M23 ARE CONGOLESE ❤
I wanted to listen until the part where he speaks about the Banyamurenge, and I got my answer. I would like to advise Prof. Lumumba to read the book by Charles Onana called Holocaust in Congo which contradicts his point in the Banyamurenge. Even the book from Kwame Kuruma contradicts his notion that Banyamurenge are Congolese.
It is well documented that they were brought into the DRC to from Rwanda to give rise to the issues we are currently facing. It’s a shame that falsehoods are what prevail on the net.
other congolese should stop killing and harassing the Banyamulenge and other rwandan speaking in EDRC. they cannot send them in other countries, they either accept them or leave them with their original land but cannot say go away, how? give them their land and change borders then or accept them and protect them as congolese too
You don't have land in Congo and you're killing congolese to take by force...we have videos that shows when the Belgians used to bring your parents from Rwanda to work in Congo in 1950 before the independence...You think that you can fool people by changing the history?
435 tribes are present in Congo. Why Congoleses would like to reject or hate only one? We had no conflicts in Kivu with Batutsis, Hutus, Fuliro, Bebe,Lega, Hundr, Nande, Hema, Lendu ...before 1990s.
Some wicked strategists implemented this long-term conflict to put East Congo out of control. Now , the poor people is victim of this manipulation. This long-term plan aimed to looting minerals as first target. There was war in in Katanga when the imperialists needed to control copper and uranium, war in Northern Angola with Zaïre backing Units for diamonds, and now, as they need coltan and niobium, war in East of Congo!!! There is no conflict between Congolese and Rwandese. There is conflict between some countries interests . When Africans will understand that they need to address the root cause and not the consequences, we will be in peace for ever!!!
Harrassment, killings, rebellion, hates are being implemented from outside Africa. It is a manipulation from those ones. It is my opinion.
None of these allegations regarding Congo is true. People talk about the things they don't have any knowledge. Let congolese talk about Congo because they know better...
I’m a Congolese 🇨🇩 and I can tell you, everything Prof said was historically true and it is a fact that we are suffering because our government is corrupt and our leaders doesn’t care
U are not Congolese and u don't know anything about congo. The congo was created with all His 450 tribes inside and they were no Banyamulenge tribe in . The Congolese Nilotic people have their tinbe named among the 450 that constituted the congo already . Banyamulenge were refugees from Rwanda brought by the Belgium colonial they had refugees status since there and today kagame is using this issue as the reason to occupy congo .in congo we don't have tribal war .this in an invasion @@niyonkuruhassan8336
It's a fact that you rebuke every one who says the truth,only those who spread lies of congo government propaganda those are the only ones you support hah so you think you know congo history more than Tutsi congolese who are fighting for their freedom?you think you know congo history more than Julius Nyerere,Thabo Mbeki and this Lumumba?hahhh you can deny the truth but you will sure live it as those Tutsi congolese will defend their right to live on their land in peace and freely like any other congolese till their last breath ,so your lies will not stop you from living thw truth because they will never beg you permission to live on their land in peace,you choose marginalizing them you choose war that's it.
you cannot be Congolese and say what you are saying...there is misalignment in your statement@@niyonkuruhassan8336
Yes, who is Congolese. Banyamulenge are Congolese and I think Lumbamba maybe a good neutral informed person to hear the truth from.
I am choked to hear Prof Lumumba affirm that M23 are Ba Nyamulenge Congolese, yet Congo administration is refusing to treat them as such; this is wrong and misleading!
The current Congolese Président Félix Tshisekedi has confirmed more than once that Ba Nyamulenge are Congolese!
Prof Lumumba, what makes you say that M23=Ba Nyamulenge with that affirmative tone??
If M23 are Congolese, why do they want independence of the Eastern part of Congo, since you claim that they are Congolese?
Why is it that at the negotiation table, Paul Kagame suddenly became their month piece?
Professor Sir, we all know that Congo is a complex environment and the war in there is not just from the Western Powers, but also is for the nilotics like you and Kagame and the Bantu people. That's the fact!
Hi Prof and thanks for the speech. However the so called Benyamulenge were not in Congo before independence, they came after as refugees and Mobutu wanted to give them citizenship but the government refused saying that citizenships cannot be given to a community, it's an individual and personal issue and the parlement blocked that decision. But Prof, Congo has nine countries bordering it, and we have tribus from Angola, Congo Brazzaville, Zambia etc living in Congo peacefully but why these Tutsis from Rwanda have problem to integrate? If there's a problem between Congolese who originated from Zambia, you will never see a Zambian president intervening, but every time when Tutsis have problem in Congo, it becomes an issue of Paul Kagame?????. If M23 is a Congolese movement, why in all their meetings Kagame goes there? Kagame is the one entertaining the majority of armed groups in Congo, just to illegally access the minerals. Thanks Prof. Dr Leon Katambwe
How many of those so called peaceful DRC neighbors you mentioned have had a Tutsi genocide ? I hope that question answers yours. If you keep leaving out that factor, then the nature of the conflict in the east of the DRC will always be enigmatic to you.
For once Mr Lumumba you are completly saying something rongly on purpose. you know as a prof that there has never been an ethnic group in DRC called Banyamulenge. These are the rwandees refugees that were placed in the mountains of Mulenge after they fled the war in Rwanda. Ask the colonisers the Belgians they will tell you. please Mr Lumumba, you are regarded as one of the great sons of Africa. Do no undermine your lifelong credibility because many will listen to this and they will be astonished that it's you saying it.
Hahaha you heard him it's like he pocketed some money joint commission for what The day they occupied his country he will understand Banyarwanda mostly Tusti
bro go do your research well do you know where banyamulenge live the place called imurenge you have to differentiate banyamulenge refugees tutsis
I can't agree more with you dear friend. One day he will learn his lesson 🙏
The prof should explain why the same community has problems with all countries in the region? Starting with their own homeland?
Ask your self why Rwanda and Burundi. We're divided in to 2 countries when almost have the same culture and language.they planed for what is happening now during that time.
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Rwanda and Burundi have always been same people with two distinct kingdoms.
They feared there administration in these kingdoms so divide and rule was the easiest way of control.they divided these nations and continued preaching diving in there society with in,which led to genocide and continued till today in cong
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Since the kingdom leaders accepted this division the fault is on them, you can't excuse stupidity.
And you didn't answer the question, why does everyone have a problem with one community? 5 countries so far?
Colonial involvement 👌 their pushes(Division for reign) is their tricks through their hypocrisy.
I have much respect for Prof Lumumba but I feel like he does not have all the resources necessary to talk about the conflict in Eastern Congo. he has to talk about the M23 agenda, and explain why Kagame is backing M23 which happen to be a Congolese problem, also the FDLR issue, when and why the Banyamulenge crisis started. Because we've been living in peace until the Kagame regime got in power. yet, the banyamulenge are the government and serving in the Congolese Defense Force.
This guy doesn’t know the first thing about the conflict in Congo. Isn’t it funny how everyone that speaks on the issue of Congo just so happen to be foreigners and not actually Congolese pretending to know the situation better than the Congolese themselves?
He does know exactly what is going on. He has been paid to lie
@@pidem100 he’s a disgraceful man that’s disgracing the Lumumba name, he’s not even Congolese so who does he think he is to take that name?
Funny how he calls himself Lumumba and doesn’t t really understand Congo. Ask all these foreigners to really ask Us the Congolese what the problem is instead of coming up with theories about Nationality of a few Rwandophone people. No that’s just an excuse to continue to steal Congo’s resources.
Please tell us why the Congolese people don't speak up for themselves.
@@pidem100Not everyone is corrupt. Believe me, there are still some honest people in the world.
Mwalimu PLO thanks a lot for this history class ##tutsilives matter
Don't thank someone who is lying about the history of Congo, banyamulenge it's a creation that never existed in Congolese tribe, in Congo we don't use community we use family, clan and tribe. These are refugees who came in were well accommodated to the point where they wanted to take over the land that wasn't theirs. They have been killing the chiefs of those tribes to change the history. Milembwe is far from the border with Rwanda what rubbish this man is talking about. The eloquence make it looks like it's the truth but it a machine that is use the pass the message so that this people may take and occupy the ancestral land of other families
Thank you prof we love you Africa need intelligent like you our country DRC problems we have no leadership we banyamulenge we are suffering because bad leadership
I didn’t hear what he is saying but I read comments.what I know about Lumumba is that he is doing kagame his propaganda.
12 million Congolese died,I didn’t hear anything from Lumumba.for him all Congolese died because of kagame it’s like animals.
We Congolese we stand now for our freedom now you open your mouth and speak rubbish?.
We will continue fighting four our freedom and you know what we will enter in Rwanda and put new president there.
Continue speaking and doing your propaganda for Rwanda but one day you will see what will happen in Rwanda.
Your HIMA EPURE will never succeed in Drc congo.
Our God he is there for us
He is too Intelligent for you tu understand him. That's why you are off .
Keep rest in dreaming, perhaps you don't know Rwanda some of you tried but they have learned a lesson you should ask them
@@praise7436 you can see how your criminal blood must president he is saying nowadays because of Felix Chisekedi.
He doesn’t sleep anymore.that means congo president he is very powerful more than your criminal president.he is not stable no more.
I never see kagame like that since he became Rwanda president.nowadays he is a European puppet.he finishes very miserable wit and see
Good morning Professor, PLO Lumumba, please explain to us why Rwuanda is now the number 1 exporter of coltan, even though Rwanda does not have these minerals?
Friend. Minerals are available in Rwanda 🇷🇼 Also not only in Congo. Or please visit easter Congo then share your experience. Thank you.
What is your source stating that " Rwanda is the number one exporter of coltan?" (Sources: youtube, twitter and my cousin lol)
Shallow knowledge is poison dear
Are you God to say in Rwanda there’s no minerals you guys stop that nonsense you should ask your president what do we achieve in Congo resources stop minding other people lives use what you have congo wake up OK let’s say 🇷🇼 They steal your minerals What about Francis or about Weston country? Why you guys don’t talk about those country just everyday Rwanda you guys don’t have even a shame About this small country you’re always talking about
Why are you not doing your own research? Am not a Rwandan but everyone knows that Coltan is found in Rwanda, Congo and Uganda, also keep in mind that according to the business, it happens, for instance, the clothes you are wearing now are not made in your own country, only business men and women can understand that.
Prof you should rechearch more about this issue in order to get a clear view of the actual situation. DRC is a french speaking country, so I suspect the language barrier doesn't allow you to grasp what is going on in DRC.
1. There are over 450 ethnic groups in DRC. How on earth can 1 ethnic group be marginalize out of the 450? What makes them so special?? Plus the DRC has borders with 9 country and in all instances you find same peoples on both sides of the border. Why this issue never occured at any other borders but Rwandan border?? There is no shuch a think as tribal discrimination in DRC.
Don't just seat in your ivory tower and draw wrong conclusions. Visit Goma, Bukavu ... you will find out by yourself.
2. You suggest to have an intercongolese conference whereby the "120 armed groups" would discuss. That's what have been done 2 years ago in Nairobi under the mediation of president Kenyata untill president kagame torpedoed the process by invading DRC.
The fact is Kagame is invading DRC for his selfish economic reasons. Unlike Putin in Ukraine or Bush in Iraq, Kagame doesn't have enough power to openly invade DRC, so he uses labels such M23, earlier it was CNDP and RCD. But The troops fighting on the ground are Rwandan Defence Forces aka RDF . This has been provent time and time again, not only by the congolese army but more eloquently by the UN.
DR Congo should not marginalirise and discriminate against it's people , M23 are Kinyarwanda speaking Tutsi Congolese freedom fighters, with discrimination and tribalism DR Congo will never have peace and it will always fight loosing wars. First blame the colonists who demarcated boarders, if the DR Congo doesn't want to accept them as it's people ,it should chase them together with their land. It seems some people are just haters, jealous and against the rapid and success development taking place in Rwanda as a country.
FOR your information all kinyarwanda speaking People in the Masisi, Ruchuru, and all over the country are Congolese citizen. Like all congolese people they have congolse national ID they have representative in the parliament and in the gouvernement both at the province level and national level. Just to give you an expemple, the current Minister of infrastructure in DRC is a muniamulenge. There are many exemple like that. Do some research and you will see.
Now, what is M23? M23 is a tool uses by Kagame to keep the kivu region unstable thus the DRC as a whole is unstable.
M23 rabel group has no substance. We have the Rwanda Defence Force RDF fighting on the ground, and some congolese paid to act as "leaders" are put infront of cameras in order to mask the invasion.
many ethnies in Congo are on both sides of all the 9 borders that Congo has with all its neighboring countries.....the question to ask is why there are only problems with banyamulenge? The Congolese president has said many times these are Congolese....but why there is only a problem with Rwandese-speaking population? the problem is minerals .....and we all know how important strategic minerals are to the ever-evolving information technology and the green energy-seeking world....if there were no minerals there would be no banyamulenge problem it is as simple as that....everything else is just beating around the bushes...
The issue comes always due to those who committed Genocide in Rwanda in 1994 who went to DRC and continued their ideology of genocide. They have a rebel group called FDLR which is supported by RDC Congo and their ambition is to attack Rwanda
@@AmaniInfoand how is that a Congolese problem? FDLR has no problem with Rwandans. they are against the Tutsi regime, a dictatorial regime!
U got right brother 🫶🏽
Problem is that DRC embraced genocide perpetrators from Rwanda in 1994 after killing Tutsi from Rwanda and they continued their killing in DRC on Tutsi in DRC.
DRC government needs to own this issue and stop blaming others
@@dawsonb.r9441it is not only fdlr that is killing Tutsi congolese,it's also the government of congo ,come on no fdlr can be able to kill Tutsi in congo if not with the help of congo government and all rebel groups in congo (mai mai,etc)
He did not mention that some current M23 leaders were both generals in the congolese army and the Rwandan army in the past and even now there are Banyamulenge leaders in the current government.
So, what do they need again? We are 200+ tribes and none is special than another
You choose either you are congolese or Rwandan or enemy. That's the big issue, there are so many chameleons... I am from this part and not all Banyamulenge agree with M23. You are misleading... Please get informed: this is an economic war/conflict from big Powers
So, well if M23 is a congolese issue, why Rwanda is involved??
You are right RDC is a state of confusion, and when you have a confusion neighbor, you have to be careful and be prepared for defensive
10:01 Since the firs time I heard PLO on Congo vs Rwanda in the 2020’s, as a passionate of the history of that region, I’ve had doubts on the sencirity of this guy. I will arrange my calendar to correct all these lies and manipulations against Congolese people on PD Tv. tutsis and hutus are originally from Rwanda and Burundi. It’s not like the Massaï issue, plz, Stop the misinformations.
22:45 I understand that PLO is a pro-Kagame, so all his narrative is pro-Kagame’s Rwanda narrative. Plz, do more research. I thought you’re a high conscious pan-African, from now on, I have a lot of doubts if you can, easily fail into western propaganda machine that is in Kigali.
Don't talk about things you clearly are ignorant about, the history of Banyamulenge and other Rwandophone Congolese is well documented. If you were any wiser you would do a simple google search, they occupied those areas in South and North Kivu as early as the 19th century, even before Congo became a country. The former Kingfom of Rwanda was vut like in half during the Berlin Conference, similar Rwandophone populations exist in Uganda(South West), not to be confused with the ones who migrated to these countries as refugees in the 1950'. But whether you agree with these facts or not, it doesn't matter...they will never be kicked out of Congo at ANY cost.
Do you think that you Know History than him?than Julius nyerere?than tabombeki?Sit and learn and let accuse our African leaders
@@22674 From hearing the rubbish that they spewed, I can assure you that me/ @ lelkaya vs all 3 of them in front of a jury of specialists historians who studied that region, I will be proclaimed the scholar. They propagated misinformations.
@@blackpearllucky279 Don’t you know that there is a lot of lies, manipulations on google? Cite me scholars. On my side, I have read more than 10 historians who have studied that region and the people of that region, since the 1890’s for e.g. HM Stanley, Molher de L., prof Isidor Ndaywel, G. Weis, D. Newburry, prof Nyagahene, Jan Vansina, and so on and colonial documents
Btw there was no such thing as Congo before King Leopold, there was the kingdom of Kongo which had about a 100th the size of todays “Congo”
You can't be a Congolese but working for Rwanda cause you're Tutsi? You can't serve Two masters? Pro. Lumumba either you're Congolese or Rwandan?
It'll be incredible if you all can have the friends of the congo. Speak on like the situation of the Congo, you know PO.L lumumba is incredible. I'm really speaking Friends of the Congo should be brought into the space as well.
We are here and observing while working in silence. Whatever PLO is saying is wrong. He has no clue about the DRC history. I bet his speech is subjective. Someone cook and story and puts it in his mouth. He has to go home for more homework.
I second that. We're here, watching and listening with amazement. What a story telling. Please research the situation of Congo since the Rwanda genocide in 1994. Before that, Congo was militarily in peace. Read the reports from the UN, look at all the infiltration of Rwanda in the Congolese political and military arena, then come back here to tell us what you think. Saying Kinshasa is far from Goma, far from Lubumbashi is just absurd. More than 10 million Congolese dead in complete silence from Africa and the international community, and Rwanda is right in the middle of all the illegal trafficking from Eastern Congo. Yes, DRC will rise and stand on its own two feet, and will drive Africa forward. But hypocrisy amongst our leaders must stop, and Kagame needs to be seen for what he really is, a murderer, a criminal.
Food for thoughts: The DRC has 450 tribes, not 3 like in Rwanda. And all these tribes are bordered by other countries as well. We are the country with the most borders in Africa, we have 9 neighbouring countries. And all these 450 tribes live in harmony, beside few issues that normally happen within a family. So ask yourselves why the problems with that 1 single tribe and why issues only with Rwanda and never with the 8 other neighbours ?! You'll find your answer. PS: please follow the last interview of the UN general secretary Gutierrez on RFI and France 24 and listen to what he has to say about Rwanda.
Unfurtunately the Congolese people have been brainwashed to hate on their fellow Rwandophone tribesmen... I think it's too late to reunite the country.
@@MalinGenie12 Would you mind elaborating?
I am congolese,
The honorable Prof Lumumba, the beloved Lumumba who taught me the verb "To magulify"; this Prof today is out of the situation in DRC. His knowledge of this conflict is closed to ZERO. Sorry for the Prof but this is the score I give him..
Our President Felix during the first days of his power, told DRC people that Banyamulenge are congolese even though they do not have lands.
They came in DRC few time before and after independance, reason why they do not have any land in DRC. They came as refugees with time
The proof that they are recognized as congolese is that there is a Minister who is munyamulenge (tutsi DRC). Mister GISARO is Minister of infrastructure, he is Tutsi.
But, but, the war we are living in DRC is from Rwanda, Mister Lumumba, go and read Charles ONANA book. Look for information you find that your knwoledge is ZERO on this situation.
Your understanding of the war is very superficial and it is influenced by Rwanda propaganda.
Do you know that RDF Rwandan army soldiers have been arrested in DRC, and they have been arrested many times with theirs ID. Are aware of that? Yes or No??, Tell us dear Prof Lumumba.
For this time dear Prof Lumumba you are out of the situation.
Please go and read again.
For the first time, I am astonished of how is this video, this speech.
You are pan africanist, but the white people plan for DRC is out of your reach and I am sad for you.
Prof go and read again, listen to Charles ONANA the franco-cameroon conferences. He has written on Rwanda genocid, you will have good understanding of the Rwandan war in DRC.
I hope your Kigali propaganda money was worth it. And try using your real name, stop disgracing Congo's P.E. Lumumba by advocating on behalf of the butchers of the Congolese. Tell us your real name. 😂 IT'S NOT LUMUMBA.
You hate the truth but the truth will remain the same.
@@Ncentmkuu😂😂😂 of course the truth is stubborn. That is why genocide perpetrators being paraded as saviors for 30 years doesn't bother us. We have time. That bill will come due some day.
Thank you very much Lumumba. I was waiting for you to talk about this topic. Our pan-African media should come here and learn. It always pains me to see African media falling into the trap of making this conflict an external conflict (put everything on Kagame) due to lack of information on the history of Congo, Rwanda and Burundi.
Who doesn’t know that PLO on Congo vs Rwanda. He has a bias pro-Kagame, and he’s very mis-informed on the issues? Only, the ignorant will accept this narrative
@@lelkaya7912 no he is true
Actually they don't lack information but Tshisekedi put a lot of money in medias to promote his propaganda that's what I figured
The reason you can not find any Pan Africanist or anyone who knows history and geopolitics saying these non-sense of blaming everything on Rwanda
PLO is very biased pro-Kagame, and he doesn’t know the history of the region
@@lelkaya7912
He's a lawyer, in other words he can be bought.
Lumumba is very wise man and strong panafricanist👌, but congolese are busy inviting a French citizen ONANA to come and teach them their history. We need more Lumumba who stand for African not African who are here for their European masters.
And what you have deliberately refused to say, is why and how Rwanda has become the first World producer of rare minerals??? Yes these minerals come illegally from Congo!! We know that when one's voice is now heard on the international scale, they can be used by the so-called World leaders to push their agenda, and this is exactly what POL Lumumba is sadly displaying- in my opinion
He's doing kagame's propaganda and he has lost my respect shame.
@@johnkabanga9001 They will be all put to shame, not too long from now! DR Congo will certainly rise up again!
Talking will not help PLO go fight if you care so much. Real fighters go to fight, ppl should refuse to listen to these ignorants who think they know better than the ppl who are in the front line. Haiti didn’t get independence from sitting 🪑 and making videos real African heroes are fighters.
@Afromedic that's why M23 is fighting ofcourse because talks do not stop congolese government with its allies from killing them.
Lumumba you unveiled your position ,you are a true imperialist agent together with malema,Nyerere,Thabo mbeki,and most congo neighbors countries are against DRC and1 its people Africans fall into Tutsi propaganda they created since mass killing of Hutu in Rwanda 1994 and claim that they were than hutu, then now in DRC that try are always victims by being supported by imperialists looters of Kongo minerals. The Congo conflict has unveuilled you
The Banyamulenge are Congolese - the Genocidaires are not...
True. on Congo vs Rwanda. He has a bias pro-Kagame, and he’s very mis-informed on the issues. It’s disappointing
@@waapeterm name me their kings, their traditional territories if not in Rwanda. They are not refused citizenship, but they are not natives to Congo. Go read Newburry D, George Weis, Isidor Ndaywel, and so on
He's an agent disguised in panafricanism. I just can't stand this mampumpane.
People are not saying the truth about Congo , Banyamulenge are Rwandan not Congolese simple as that .they are killing Congolese people yet crying like kids in international level
This man PLO Lumumba is eating Kagame's money. We all know it. He is invited many times in Rwanda to be tought Kagame's narrative. He is a corrupt man looking form money, nothing of panafricanism in him except only talking.
I am very disappointed that Mr Lumumba doesn't understand the problem of Congo if it come to Banyamulenge/Tutsi Kinyarwanda speaking people. First of all, there are Hutu Kinyarwanda speaking Congolese and both of these groups of people are treated as every Congolese since the period of Mobutu. Of course, they have been some issues but these issues are not exclusive to Banyamulenge. Mr Lumumba completely ignores Rwandan invasion to DRC in the name of Banyamulenge. Please stop being a propagandist of Kagame. You have the same ideas as Thabo Mbeki and it looks like you have been paid to mislead Africans on this. Rwanda should withdraw its troops from DRC and the war will end.
...Looks like some of these elites are apologists for Paul Kagame, perhaps because of business for Thabo Mbeki, perhaps to get a travelling passport for PLO. Of course Rwanda is an inherently propaganda driven country : Visit Rwanda, FDLR threatening to invade, Cleanest city in Africa, bots on line working over time etc. - perhaps this is working. The reality is that PK is a very violent man right from his youth and was known as "Pilato" when he headed Uganda counter military intelligence . This was the Africanized form of "Pontius Pilate" of the Bible story to depict the power over life and death he had over many innocent people. Once should read the many "false flag" operations they masterminded to get rid of opponents. I do not think the moment of conversion from Saul to Paul has occurred yet. Of course Thabo will forget the political killings done by PK on South African soil, and that South African soldiers paid in blood to liberate Goma the last time ... what lessons learnt?
Merci beaucoup Lumumba pour être clair sur cette histoire
I understand it is too hard for you to clarify. It looks like it is sensitive for you to speak about this issue, Sir. You are being diplomatic here!
Listen Mr Lumumba, you know the truth about war in Congo but for money and popularity you decide to talk rubbish. Shame on you,remember God is watching you who are enemies of Congo.
Thank you, Professor Lumumba, the wiseman and the voice of Afrika. May The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY grant you more graces and protect you. I watch this video about the problem of Congo and what is happening in the eastern part of Congo. Your contribution in that problem as a son of Afrika is sufficient for the end of the conflict in Congo(D.R.C). Many African countries have almost the same problem, but how to end all these problems that are ruining our continent, because only the problem of Congo is the obstacle for the developpement of many countries in Afrika. Therefore, let's find the final solution for Congo and the whole Afrika, so that the sons and daughters of this Continent, we will live in peace and harmony amongst us, and enjoy all the blessings GOD gave us. In my point of view, I hope the unity of Afrika will be the beginning of the solution for our problems in the continent, and the end of all these atrocities in Afrika. One sovereign ideology for all afrikans. We are One, and Love is our culture. A consciousness education of Afrika must be taught all over the continent. Leaders must have Pan-Africanistes spirit, not to seek only the interest of one country, but all the leaders must have in theirs minds that all the sons and daughters of this Continent are also his people, that he must also love them and take care of them. We must know, how to value ourselves and value others. We must love who we are and love our mother land Afrika.
Tshilombo didn't go to school, he can't understand scientifically
The whole east of Congo has never been at ease with Congos position, the hate congo receives, is just to outshine Congolese, Congolese are people with self confidence either in
Much or less, now comes the puppets role, a real catastrophe Tht could lead to congo to be broken in pieces. But the folks in tht parts of the countrie are the toughest of that nation coz they never given up on fighting the invasion of the western puppets, long live one big congo
On behalf of all Congolese and the blood of millions of Congolese who have been killed we take back the name of Lumumba, this guy doesn't deserve to be called Lumumba.
Thank you Prof Lumbumba.
But go back to check the government of Congo 🇨🇩 you will find that those people have high positions. Do the research of Jams Kabarebe, Bosco Ntaganda, Laurent Nkubda Batware,….. where are they now and why? If they are not Rwandan puppets. I am sorry Sir.
YOU ARE LIVING VERY WELL WITH M23 MONEY IN KENYA. YOU SEEM TO BE VERY CONFORTABLE PAUL KAGAME! An agreement was signed in SUN CITY , ask the TUTSIS why they still have guns?
Plo lumumba is western pupet same as kagame
Rukundo, seems like he doesnt know Lumumba. He is the most critical person i know of neocolonial agendas. You are obviously blinded by an anti Rwanda and pro interahamwe mentality. Dont be too open about it. Plz have more tact in exposing your ideological biases
These two people (lumumba and Kagame) are on record for fighting western interference in African matters. Both are proponents of african solutions to african problems
You should be called Rwango Rubi
This guy committed genocide in Rwanda that why he hates the truth
Justice will catch up with him. Genocide criminals will always hate facts about the plight of Congolese Tutsis. They encroached on their land and Congolese accepted it. So seat tight and enjoy the battle noise
You call yourself a professor yet are ignorant about kongo
Pr Lumumba talks of talking with the Congo government to discuss with armed groups and integrate them in the army!!!… Really! It’s as if he ignores how many integrations have been made just for the purpose of weakening the military forces of the government on the interests of Rwanda/Kagame!!!…
Unless Pr Lumumba wants Congo army force be led by the RDF/Kagame army chef commander 😅oh, yes it happened in 1997 when James Kabarebe led the two countries army forces 😂😂😂!!!…. If this is not mockery over Congo government what should it be called!…
Pr Lumumba , over Congolese dead bodies there will never be another Kagame rebel supported army group integrated into Congo 🇨🇩 army! Not now that we Congolese people understand the whole wickedness truth of Kagame politics…
And I call upon Congo 🇨🇩 government to never trust and give you a discussion platform for Congo 🇨🇩 peace… You have proven you can’t do any better than the East Africa block!…
Just leave Congo to its fate, we will fight for ourselves, and this even when the we elect disappoint us, we will rise and fight for our freedom and protect our resources!
Thank you Proffessor, you are right, Tchisekedi should learn the right history from you🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hum! On this matter, the guy is ignorant. Or he is defending Western agenda.
Here we go again with incredible truth distortion done by dishonest and corrupt mouth-pieces of Kagame PLO Lumumba and Thabo Mbeki!
PLO Lumumba, very humbly I request to stay away from Congo-Rwanda conflict. It is clear that you know nothing about it or you have just chosen to defend Rwanda at a fee. Congo shall never be divided as you wish.
This man is illumination but we aren't good enough to follow his advices
There is a reality that the Government of DRC and a big portion of its population refused to accept: that there is a population with Rwandan culture and heritage and Congolese nationality. This reality will not disappear any time soon. In Rwanda we have accepted long time ago that these people are not part of our country anymore since they become part of congo due to colonial deeds, but we recognize and embrace their entitlement to our shared culture even if they belong to another nation. It is now up to Congo to accept their entitlement to all the benefits of being a congolese national, and the sooner the better.
Manipulations, manipulations, manipulations. They are not refused; however, they need to be loyal to Congo not be traitors.
Those people are not Congolese, how come the entire country can be against one tribe , this can not only be a coincidence. Africa don’t be fool . Listen to Congolese they are telling the truth
@@GM-Media It is a long term propaganda of Mobutu he was a best friend of Habyarimana the president who prepared well the genocide against Tutsi, if you know very well laws why did they accept refugees who did genocide in Rwanda to remain armed, boy the history and geopolitics are known to those who know
@@GM-Media many africans are bringing weaknesses meaning they don’t understand why many Congolese tribes against Tutsi tribes. Tutsi killed many people in Congo since they took over in Rwanda their plan is to destroy Congo and took part of it because they got no way to what they did to the original Congolese tribes
@@kagabopaul3126 habyarimana didn't prepare the genocide, today everyone knows clearly that kagame the current president of rwanda killed his own tribe men just to get power and blamed it to the hutus unfortunately
Much respect for professor Lumumba, his oratory skills and his knowledge of history make it pleasant to listen to. But I must disagree with his reading on what's happening in the Eastern DRC. There has been well documented UN reports and books bringing forward proofs on all that Rwanda has been doing in DRC for almost 25 years. The M23 is simply a proxy used by the Führer of Kigali. It's not about Hutus and Tutsis of the Congo, it's about plans of balkanizing the Congo for its resources, no wonder why Rwanda is the number 1 exporter of Coltan despite not having much of it in its land. Here are two books for those who really wanna know more about what's happening: "Holocauste au Congo": L'Omerta de la communauté internationale (French) by Charls Onana and "Do Not Disturb": The Story of a Political Murder and an African Regime Gone Bad by Michela.
Don't be misled by Charles Onana, who is a tool used by Tchisekedi to propagate tribalism and shift the blame of supporting FDLR genociders by Tchisekedi to Kagame said he backs m23! You have to know that as long m23 families are not brought back to their land eastern DRC, the conflict will last forever cause the children who are being born in these refuges camps shall be committed than the current m23
Prof today I disagree with you,M23 are not Congolese they are Rwandans who are supported by France in other to loot minerals for them.listening to you I feel like you are trying to say that borders don't count.why are Zimbabweans are not South Africans it is not because of the borders?you must know that Congo has borders with 9 others Countries why Congo never had problems with other countries ?I can clearly see that you do not understand what is really happening in Congo.Rwanda has no power to fight DRC ,Rwanda is supported by the western in other to loot minerals.
President Tshisekedi has already proposed to M23 (made of rwandophones) to disarm and regain civilian life as citizens. They do not accept that. Instead, they continue to receive weapons from outsiders including Rwanda to fight. Why? if a citizen or resident takes up weapons against his country in order to make a political request, this is called terrorism.
Well in 2012 they promised them the same but kept them as refugees in camps of Uganda 🇺🇬☹️ so stop the nonsense
@johnngunza8034 why would they agree to put their weapons down and get killed with nothing to self denfend are you crazy? so your killers telling you to give them your weapons and go home and you would honestly agree? Hahh you are a joke,before M23 took weapons they were initially civilians who got constantly attacked by militias backed up by government and hutu genocidaires who fled Rwanda and now supported by congo so why in a such a wicked and animalistic environment would M23 accept to be disarmed so they can go back to being killed with nothing to defend them as in the beginning?you congoleses are just a joke,why don't we hear you condamning the killings your government and militias are doing to Tutsi but always be the first to condamn M23 for fighting back?you are very hypocrites and funny enough most of you scream about minerals being stolen but yet your leaders are millionaires from those same minerals while most of you the common citizens are not even able to eat a full meal twice a day.
I agree with him except on one point that he is not clear about. The following must be put under consideration when tackling eastern DRC:
1. Banyamulenge aren't all tutsis. They include other ethnic groups including hutus who are found in Rda and Burundi as well.
2. DRC does not deny them being congolese rather, she is irritated how some of then became unpatriotic and joined Rda in the face of ethnic affiliation ( Tutsi ) and later brought Rwandan ethnic conflicts into DRC.
3. After Rwandan revolution in 1959, the ruling class of tutsis voluntarily fled the country saying that they won't accept being ruled by their slaves during monarchy. So, these tutsis spread in neighboring countries including DRC. Looking at the history of these countries they went to, they settled well to the point they began inside invasions because all those countries were ruled by Bantou tribes like the new regime in Rwanda by then. You heard of 1972 hutu genocide in Burundi orchestrated by tutsis, the capture of Uganda in 1986 after a 4 yr war, Rwanda in 1994 after 4yrs war as well, the invasion of the then Zaïre in 1996 in pretense of following the genociders; but they tried with Tanzania but didn't work out. Instead, after Kagame's threat to President Kikwete due to misunderstanding on which rwandans should be sent back to Rwanda, Kagame preferred the hutus who fled 1994 war and let the 1959 remain there because they are his side force/ spies when their time would come to destabilize Tanzania. Kikwete decided to chase them all back to Rwanda without selection.
So you see... this war in DRC is clearly being propagated by western superpowers through Kagame and his tutsis inner circle of the like minded ( Museven, Ruto, South Sudan) for their quest to form Hima ( tutsi) empire that would encompass Rwanda, eaten DRC, Burundi, Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya and South Sudan. This empire see the bantou people being slaves who will work in mines, farms etc while they do mineral business with the West.
After 30 yrs of genocide in Rwanda, Kagame has been trying to bring the idea in Congo to associate the capital human violation of genocide into the region to being the reason he is sending troops there in the name of protecting tutsis but yet, we have over 10 millions of congolese ( bantou) dead on his head. Cfr. 2010 UN mapping report. This madness should end. The region was peaceful before Kagame captured Rwanda after killing 2 presidents and voluntarily committed genocide among rwandans. They will not escape the truth, no matter the kind of manipulations they propagate into mass population!
Wow! what type madness I wonder the source of this information 🤔.
Great narration
I like the words of President Mbeki, " the issue of Eastern DRC requires objective reality ", not emotional thinking.
The kingdom of Rwanda, Urundi and Booga Zaire (the correct Kivu) was one before the scramble and portion of Africa 1878 Berlin conference
The Eastern DRC community is more organised now than Kinshasa government, it has effective army - M23, resources, international sympathy etc. Better listen to them than hiding the head in the sand
@@ssekabanjaalfred5149Show the map of that kingdom or who were ur subjects or go away!! Nonsense
M23 are not Congolese. You can check
Too long ! Your speeches make me go to sleep ! And n 2024 , it’s hard to focus to speeches like this . Be brief , straight to the point
Stop being intellectually lazy
@@1andeyo he is storytelling ! , he should be teaching ancient history somewhere in your country
The problem is not the Tutsi Congolaise but the massive presence of Kagame army massacring the local population
Thanks Prof for explaining the Congo problem.
As long as the Congolese Rwandophones are denied their citizenship rights and the DRC continues its collaboration with genocidal groups, peace in DRC will remain elusive.
Also, the Congolese government is incapable of ensuring security for the vast territory of DRC.
Reka kubesha abanty
Reka kubesha abantu abanyamulenge ubesha ngo abarwandophone nta reta ibambura ubgene gihugu imitwe yabapanya turayimenyereye
The issue of citizenship is really a game to divert the world & intellectuals like PLO from the Truth. It's just the scapegoat. Is it only after a few years that Congo is turning against easterners to be non Congolese?
No.
As you said that Tutsis nilotic ethics at the East of DRCongo are Congolese why are they working for Paul Kagame?
Dear Prof Lumumba. I am sorry to tell you that on this one, you are misinformed. The Tutsi in DRC are originally from Rwanda and were given a place to stay as refugees. There is no tribe called banyamulenge, it is name given to distinguish the Tutsi in DRC from others. These Tutsi that are calling themselves banyamulenge are now claiming land in killing authoctones. Nowhere in the world this is acceptable. It must be condemned. And that is what I would expect from a true panafricanist.
Mr Lumumba what you said about Banyamulenge you are wrong , those people are not Congolese origin and instead of working for Congo they only works for Rwanda that’s why in Congo no one want them . Kenya have same issue with Somalian so don’t make this issue as only existing in Congo #CongoleseDeFatherandMother
And you really think you know history more than him he was there everything happened infront of his own eyes
You people you're filled with propaganda but people who actually know the history and geopolitics can not be fooled like people who actually look for information on social media not intellectual that
@@kagabopaul3126 I am Congolese I know the truth more than him , Congo for Congolese original not terrorist from Rwanda
You might be Congolese but you don't seem to know or understand the political history of your country due to miseducation by the colonizers. Most of the problems on the entire continent were due to Mobutu's reign of terror as he was the biggest of all Western puppets!
@@GM-Media
Kenya doesn't have a similar problem, Somalis don't start rebellions to loot their neighbors.
@@GM-Media u are right NO ONE knows Congo history better Congolese, they must stop all those lies!
As much as I admire Prof Lumumba's Pan-Africanism and love for prosperous Africa. I think the history he's telling of Congo is somewhat selective and not truthful to certain extent. Many, values and respect your views, but for the scholar of your caliber I had expected you to do better. Some might say that you're biased for not outlining Kagame's negative role which has weakened Congo's leadership for decades by infiltrating its government with the elements from what you call banyamulenge a tribe that doesn't exist within Congo's tribes list, but rather the rwandese tutsi whom the international community seeks to impose Congo to admit as its citizens. Though President Tshisekedi has urged Congolese to welcome these people. However that's not the objective for Kagame and his western allies. Their goal is to cut a piece of Congo and add it to Rwanda. Like you said the busiest airspace in Africa, is in the East of Congo, meaning the war has to continue while Kagame and his allies are looting Congo's resources. You sound like the devil advocate when you said that M23 rebels should be integrated in Congo's army and the police as part of the solution for peace to emerge, that's exactly what Rwanda is asking, and for your information Kabila Joseph did that, but nothing good came out of it. Congo had military generals and colonels of the so called banyamulenge tutsi rwandese, they went on killing innocent Congolese citizens in the East of Congo. Coming the time for them to answer for their crimes at the ICC they denied their Congolese citizenship, quickly switched to being rwandese, some returned to Rwanda and are still holding military positions in Rwanda until this day. Again about Kagame's threat to retaliate should Congo decide to attack Rwanda. Realistically speaking Sir if there's no western powers standing in Congo's way, Rwanda would had been dealt with long ago.
Congolese problem is that you don't accept you fellow Tutsi Congolese and corruption.
Congo has no leadership no army .you can not stand agaimst Rwanda.
Thank you for putting it as it was supposed to be. Very well said. 💯
@@Mfa397 Attention ⚠️ This is a Rwandan troll. Plz ignore