My grandfather ( Bronze Star)told me, in the Pacific Theater in WW2, the Jeep had a Steel plate Welded to the bottom for "Jumping Jack" mines. He said that Jeep saved so many lives. He was WW2, Korea, Vietnam. He was a Awesome man. He loved that little Jeep, it got in the woods 🪓. He saw combat WW2, Korea, Vietnam. He is my Hero. Rest in Peace Sydney Dick Borress.
the old MB is the best vehicle you guys have in your fleet...the window folds down for a variety of reasons and made it very versatile...by having the window down, the passenger could quickly shoot from the more stable seated position if ambushed...also these jeeps were only built with an expected service life of 30 days in the field...to get the guys out of harms way, they could run for a time with the oil pan and or radiator blown out...the low compression loose tolerance engine could run on pretty much any volatile fluid you could scrounge up...lamp oil, diesel, kerosene, as long as there was some gasoline left in the tank to mix it a bit...i remember when these flat fenders could be picked up for a song, not so any longer...they are getting quite desirable now
I live in central AZ, in the desert foothills. I volunteered for the Black Canyon City Fire Department and we had a Willys Jeep equipped with a water tank, lights and sirens which was donated to us by State Land. I loved driving that thing all over creation putting out brush fires with shovels, rakes and hoes. Absolutely a great time!
I had my first Jeeps (all have been flatfenders) while living in Winslow, late 1990s / early 2000s. First was a basically 'stock' (but for 12 volt conversion) '48 CJ2A, then a very beat Ford GPW with 283 Chevy... . I bought a Willys MB last year with less than 1k on proper restoration.
Cost of production, how easy they are to fix, how much risk there is of them breaking, whether they can be poured into pretty much any fuel, how easy they are to transport on a train, ship, or with an airplane, that's things that make the old Jeep win every day of the week.
I had a friend with a couple MBs. He bought them cheap a very long time ago, taught his kids to drive on and off road in them, rebuilt them from the ground up with basic tools, twice, and still had them when he died a few years ago. There's nothing like the MB on the market today, not even farm vehicles or UTVs. For their intended use and specs, they are still impressive, simple, durable, field-rebuildable machines. They were never intended for a world with 80mph interstates.
Jeep is no longer what it used to be. Though, Jeep was a name for the type of military vehicle and Ford was making Jeeps at one point. After Jeep became a brand, it was bought out many times throughout the years. Now I think it's Chinese owned.
Fuel Gauge in my 1948 CJ-3A never worked for more than a week. I used a piece of wood Broom Shaft, very handy and precise. And I even can mesure the fuel seated !!! What a convenience.
two big differences is the new jeep is really built for the road & is OK off road when the road is wide The real Jeep was built for off road & to go down narrow trails & streets. It was to be simple & basic to keep the cost low but still built to carry & pull heavy loads. It could even replace a farm tractor. So why even compare the two when each one was designed for to do each a different task
Exactly. They are comparing a real jeep to a glorified modern sports utility vehicle. Then you get into stuff like electric shutoff, EMP pulse, GPS tracking and how once all that comes into play the real Jeep is still running and getting around
I am glad the MB jeeps are still around and you can actually buy brand new knockdown kits for them out of the Philippines. And you can still buy a manual 6 speed 2 seat soft top wrangler for almost affordable money.
Renegade is not a jeep. It's a fiat with underbody protection and programming for transmission/AWD to increase off-road performance. Seems like a good job by FCA/Stellaris engineers to maximize capability
It is a Jeep and you can do Jeep things in it! I have a built JKU and My wife has a lifted Renegade with A/T tires. Both have done many Jeep Badge of honor trails.
@@rslover65 My FIAT Renegade Trailhawk handles trails like Slaughterhouse Gulch near Bailey, Colorado with little fuss or drama and it did so as it rolled off the show room floor when I bought it in 2015. The vehicle is more "Trail Rated" than most people are.
A Wrangler isn't either. I have a REAL JEEP sharing garage space with my 2015 FIAT Renegade Trailhawk. It's a '49 CJ 2A. A Wrangler is too wide and too low-slung and packs too much trail-hugging lard to qualify as a real Jeep.
TFL is in great hands for the long term future!!! These 3 can give a more “Throttle House” sense of humor and vibe to the videos that the OG 3 can sometimes lack. Gives a more playful and creative approach to car reviews, which I think everyone can agree is what made Top Gear so amazing and legendary
Not to forget that the military Jeeps were built so an average, even dumb soldier could keep it running, repair it, rebuild it; often much in the field! And consider that wheelbase in the tight woods!
I had an epiphany. The Willys MB probably had a significant influence on how modern vehicles operate. Anyone who could drive a manual today could drive it. The same can't be said about even automatic cars from that era.
@@653j521 You must not have much experience with machines. I cannot explain in a comment. Study the manual of operation of the earliest automatic vehicles. And compare it to an automatic car from today. Cars have used electronics and computers to assist shifting sense the 1970's and earlier. And also compare it to an old manual car or piece of equipment. I can drive the a model T the car my grandparents pushed in when it was new. If you are 7 generations seperated from the invention of the automobile. I feel sorry for the state of the world.
I agree. Sort of. I think they quit making real Jeeps when AMC lengthened the CJ 5. I had a TJ Wrangler. It didn't do anything my CJ-2A can't do, off pavement, but my CJ-2A is better on open, legal routes originally blazed by flat-fender Jeeps in the immediate post-war era. The TJ was already too big doe my taste and they've only gone downhill from there.
@@troygallagher3459 Their numbers for the Kubelwagon and trucks were much lower than the Allies and they relied heavily on animal transport. That is why Allied fighters would strafe ox carts. The Germans built about 50,000 Kubelwagons over the course of the war, whereas the US produced over 640,000 Jeeps. Plus we had a huge number of trucks. The US alone produced over 2 million trucks.
The only other vehicle from that time period that went from military to civilian is the power wagon. It would be cool to do a comparison of your military jeep against a military power wagon
one thing that impresses me about the modern jeeps (Wranglers) as, compared to pretty much everything else, is the jeeps don't have a lot of extra 'bloat'..one example, the distance from the front grill to the radiator is mere inches in a jeep, that measurement is in feet in every other comparable vehicle. Getting into a modern Truck/SUV, you are enveloped in puffy plastic crap...the door panels are puffy, the dash is 3 feet deep...the center consoles are larger than mini-fridge...is all that plastic stuff really necessary?
@@sixpest REAL JEEPS, like my '49 CJ 2A, are small. A Wrangler is a bloated thing with a track on par with a 70's full-size 4X4 and about a ton of excess trail-hugging lard.
I appreciate and enjoy the reviews of historic vehicles that "normal" people used (the military Jeep, the Ford Model T, and the Citroen 2CV), and especially that the commentary emphasizes the environments into which those vehicles came. Very respectful of the enormous amount of work that went into designing those vehicles for their intended environments, and of the accomplishments those vehicles made. Nonetheless, driving them in a modern environment (the Model T to a fast food drive-through and the Jeep on LA streets and freeways) was hysterical to watch.
yes!!..sometimes it's refreshing to see the vehicles of the past, some of which we drove in our youth and those which none of us would have driven...and the simplicity of them!!
I have a friend who lives in northern Minnesota and has a lot of experience with driving in snow. He claims the best vehicle he has driven for riding in snow is the WW2 era Jeep. WW2 Jeep vs Model T might be a better thing to do
A modern Rubicon needs less automation and more repairability to be "warzone ready." Fewer electronics. Make the diffs Detroit locker style. Give manual locking hubs. Etc. They're so capable but to be reliable enough to be used in combat they have to be much simpler and field-repairable.
The throttle lock is for PTO mounted items such as the fire pump and field generator plus a variety of farm and forestry equipment in civilian use. My Dad drove them in the Pacific Theater during WW2 (Sergeant and Jungle Raider with the Americal Division of the 182d Infantry HQ) and liked the original better than the others such as the Ford with its independent front suspension which he said was only really good for around base and not rugged enough for off-road use. After an EMP event the old MB will likely still be running while all the new ones with their multiple computers, etc will be primarily lawn art. Repairs for the most part on the MB could be done with a highly specialized tool kit comprising of a pair of pliers, adjustable wrench and a few flat head screwdrivers while the new ones require a much more complex tool kit including computers and the training to be able to use them. The steering probably needs adjustment on that MB if it really has more than 1 inch of play in the steering wheel and may also need the caster set better on the front axle. Most people mess up and only adjust the cross shaft connected to the pitman arm on the steering box without first adjusting the end play on the worm shaft attached to the steering column. You have to adjust both or eventually you'll destroy the bottom end of the worm shaft where it serves as the inner race for the bearing on that end.
@@-oiiio-3993 A co-worker ordered 12 Army Surplus Radios about 50 years ago and got a frantic call from his wife when they delivered them. He didn't realize that what he bid on was crated WW2 Jeeps with radios installed in them. They delivered them on a flatbed with a crane and stacked the crates 3 high on his front lawn since they had nowhere else to put them. He built a ramp to roll them off. Best!
tbf. suburban is not just the longest running name plate. but had its start in ww1. as a literal wagon on a truck chassis. so that comparison between suburban and wagon i found humorous. but chevy built the original to send over seas with the military. those guys came back to the US and wanted that vehicle. chevy seeing the demand. made the 1st ever suvs. but it wasnt called an suv till much later. suburbans are my all time fav.
That competition was pretty funny. In the future if you are going to always catch and release in your pond maybe use J hooks instead of Treble hooks because it will be alot easier to remove the hooks from the fish's mouths and especially if they swallow it down deep.
Take it camping in the woods or wilderness. Take it offroad on the trails and through the woods. Then tell me which one you prefer. I could take my 4x4 2022 GMC Sierra truck and do all the things the modern jeep is doing. But could you squeeze in all the tight places? If the electric system or computer shut down would you still be rolling? Is it the same outdoor experience?
Honestly they would've been better off with plates, you even look at a dinner plate wrong and it'll explode. Also why didn't they test it in the seats instead of the back of the jeep? Not applying this to the oldest jeep that is a two seater, but for the four seaters you should be testing comfort where people will sit. Older jeaps, pretty much anywhere is considered a seating position as proven by the last video on this.
TJs/LJs were the best, IMO. They just need the upper suspension linkage triangulated, to eliminate the trouble-prone trackbars. They were comfortable enough, yet still simple enough. The CJ8 and LJ were even big enough to haul the family and their stuff, while towing a boat or camper. The aftermarket support could make them FANTASTIC.
03:38 - They _really_ should have shifted to '4-Lo' for this. "Off road cruise control set to three miles per hour" for the new one, Don't know how to use gears or T-case on the other. Brakes are a somewhat abstract concept on flat fendered Jeeps. 36:37 - The nine slot, stamped steel grille was introduced by Ford during early production of the GPW, which was built by Ford as subcontractor to the Willys Overland contract for Truck, 1/4 Ton, 4X4, G503 (Willys MB). The first several thousand Willys MB and Ford GPW had the welded strap iron grilles of prototype and pre production models. By war's end Willys had built over 360,000 MBs and Ford over 280,000 of their Model GPW. I drive a recently restored Willys MB, myself.
I don't have anything bad to say about the new Jeeps. It's the new Jeep drivers I'm not a fan of. They go and buy an SUV that gets bad gas mileage compared to other new cars, dress it up to look like a serious off road vehicle, and only drive on paved roads with the doors off. I'm sure there are people who actually take them off road a lot, but for the most part, they're just status symbols. That's my opinion anyway.
I have a uilt JKU and a Built Renegade sport. I have built them both. My wife drives the Renegade. We have taken both of them to and on many trails. The Renegade has handled everything we have put it through. It has done many of the JBOH trails. Don't hate. I admit I was shocked at how well it does.
I was sad when the Top Gear trio and then The Grand Tour, stopped their series, TFL is becoming a great replacement! I’ve been watching since 2012 and it’s incredible to see how the channel has grown. 👏🏼
The ole jeep is nostalgic, but the late 70s thru the 80's Wranglers were my favorite and most comfortable. They also seem to have more room with the exception of the longer 2010 2 door Wrangler
That was very cool! I agree with Tommy about Jeep coming out with a basic SUV starting at $21K. If the vehicle is not too wide, it would fit in my garage of my townhouse and have plenty of clearance from my automatic garage door opener unit.
This contest was over before it started because the wheel-base is too long on the new Jeep. The Wrangler stopped being a serious off-roader when they started making them with four doors - the wheel base is just too long. They are little more than mall cruisers now. The most crucial aspect in the success of the original Jeep was its short wheelbase.
25:20 I was in a similar situation in a zero turn mower, it started sliding sideways down a hill, there was no stopping it. I had no seat belt on, roll bar was down, just stepped right off it as it slid down the hill and then it flipped at the bottom. Only problem was, it smoked a bit when we restarted it (it was a diesel)
Actually, it IS low range. A Renegade Trailhawk has a 4.33:1 final drive ratio. The ZF 9 HP has a 4.7:1 first gear that isn't used in ordinary street driving, where the vehicle starts off in a 2.842:1 second gear and pretty immediately upshifts into a 1.909 third gear. Third gear is 8.26:1. My old '73 Bronco had 3.50 final drive gears and a 2.42:1 first gear for a combined gear reduction of 8.47:1. The point is that third gear in my Renegade Trailhawk is more or less what first gear would feel like in most 70s, 80s, and 90s four-wheel drives with automatic transmissions. My Bronco, in low range and first gear, had a mechanical gear reduction of 20.4974:1 My Renegade in first gear has a mechanical gear reduction of 20.351:1 Both have an addition torque multiplication potential of 2:1 from their transmission's torque converters. So, the EFFECTIVE torque multiplication in the Renegade Trailhawk is actually 40.702:1 The EFFECTIVER torque multiplication in my 73 Bronco that I used to have was 40.9148:1 In second gear, the EFFECTIVE torque multiplication of the Renegade Trailhawk is 24,61172:1 My old Bronco, in low range and second gear, had an effective torque multiplication of 24.0548:1 For comparison, the MB and GPW WWII Jeeps have a 25:1 compound low gear. In off-pavement driving in the Bronco, low range, second gear was sufficiently low for most stretches of trail. In my 2015 Renegade, second gear is essentially the same torque multiplication as my Bronco was in 2nd and low range. That's the sort of stuff that real automotive journalists of the print media era like Brock Yates and Don Sherman, who were both SAE members, both understood and were capable of explaining, so people like you wouldn't get the idea that something is "sad" when it isn't. The four-low button does lock the transmission into first gear. That's true, but only by half, and a half truth is still a whole lie. Pushing that button also tames the nanny algorithms from cutting engine torque in an effort to protect the drivetrain from being broken by those who bought and paid for it. What TFL never mentions, ever, is that a Renegade Trailhawk in first and second gear is more or less like running most legacy four-wheel drives with three and four speed automatic transmissions in their first and second gears with the transfer case in low. So, it isn't that the Renegade Trailhawk doesn't have "true low range gearing." It does. It's lower in terms of torque multiplication than a Willys MB, Ford GPW, or stock CJ-2A, and on-par with pretty much every legacy four-wheel drive with a two-speed transfer case and a three or four speed automatic transmission. When the 2015 Renegade Trailhawk was launched, Jeep engineers made a big deal about the 20:1 "crawl ratio" of the vehicle. They did that for a reason, which I have illustrated above. That 20:1 comes from gear reduction. Torque converters don't have gears, but still have the capacity to multiply torque in a variable range between 2:1 and 1;1 and it is "on demand" in nature, with the multiplication ratio decreasing as input and output speeds equalize. The torque converter is why cars and trucks with automatic transmissions commonly had a 2.42:1 first gear. Off the line, that's really like having a purely mechanical 4.84:1 first gear. You're not just getting torque multiplication form gear reduction, but also via hydraulic means, and the combination of the two gives your EFFETIVE torque multiplication. The Renegade Trailhawk's transmission has a 9.808:1 ratio span with an average step of 1.33:1 between each of the 9 forward gears. 1St is 4.7:1 and 9th is 0.48:1. Jeep engineers capitalized on this in a way that is anything but "sad". If 40:1 effective torque multiplication in first gear, low range, and 24:1 in second gear, low range was low enough for the trail the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s, how is the Renegade Trailhawk "sad" for supplying THE EXACT SAME THING in first and second gear? Do you believe, as these "journalists" at TFL seem to, that the tires care about whether the 40:1 turning them comes from Torque Converter X Planetary Gears X Final Drive or Torque Converter X Planetary Gears x Transfer Case Low Range X Final Drive? From an engineering standpoint, if one drive train layout is superior to the other, it should be the one that gets torque to the tires with the least parasitic driveline loss and that would the layout that gets the same gearing from one gearbox instead of two. Another benefit to getting low range gearing WITHOUT using a transfer case to do it is that there's no transfer case to get hung up on anything. The underside of a Renegade Trailhawk is pretty damn "slick" without much to get snagged on anything. I bought a 2015 Renegade Trailhawk because I understood that 20:1 mechanical reduction is 20:1 whether it comes from a transmission and transfer case or a transmission alone and I also understand how and why that feels like 40:1 in use because of the 2:1 torque multiplication potential of the torque converter. I also knew that 8.7" of running ground clearance is the same as the 8.7" of running ground clearance on a CJ-2A. I know that a CJ 2 A's stock 44 degree approach angle is limited in usefulness by a stock CJ 2 A's 31 degree departure, You only need as much approach angle as the ass end can handle. A stock Renegade Trailhawk has an approach angle of 31 degrees, a departure angle of 34, and a breakover angle of 25.7 to a stock CJ 2 A's 25. It also has 200mm / 7.8" of wheel travel, fully functional skid plates, and fully functional recovery points. I wasn't surprised, at all, when it did the Slaughterhouse Gulch trail near Bailey, Colorado with no fuss or drama as it rolled off the showroom floor. Math said it haa low enough gearing, enough running ground clearance, and enough approach, breakover, and departure angle to go pretty much anywhere my stock '49 CJ-2A can. I was an early adopter, buying mine in 2014 from the first batch to arrive. I didn't hang on to the thing for a decade because it is "sad". I've hung on to it because it does all of the Jeep Things I care to do in a Jeep, having enough capability for the overwhelming majority of open, legal routes on BLM and Forest Service land with ZERO MODIFICATION required. It gets 30 mpg on the highways that get me to National Forests and BLM lands and, when I get to them, it'll get 20 mpg in the dirt, no matter how much time the transmission spends in first gear. Sad that the best Jeep I've ever had is a FIAT and not the CJ 2A in my garage, or the TJ I had, or the 2DR XJ I had, but I frankly don't miss the TJ, at all, I do sometimes miss the XJ, but generally find those feeling fleeting while I'm at the gas pump. I don't really use my CJ-2A much, anymore. I probably wouldn't miss it if I sold it. Some teenage dork in a paper-plated Wrangler Rubicon took the liberty of informing me that I didn't have a real Jeep as I loaded camping gear I bought into the back of my "FIAT." He went on to say "If you can't use a Jeep for the Rubicon, it's useless as a Jeep." "Ah, but I DO use it for the Rubicon now," I said. "I use it to get me to Georgetown, CA and, once I'm there, I park it and ride a street legal dual-sport motorcycle that probably cost me less than your wheels, tires, and lift, combined. I don't get the crap beat out of me on the bike and I can do the whole trail from there to Lake Tahoe and back in hours, rather than days, no matter how much I'm stopping to view the scenery." I don't think there's much about the Renegade Trailhawk that is sad. It is the only Jeep I've ever had that I actually enjoy as a daily driver and I have just as much fun on Forest Service and BLM land with it as I've had in any other Jeep product I've owned.
I would love to see the MB vs a stock TJ! To me they both held the essence of exploring and fun and capability! Great video! You two are the ones who need to do the off road stuff with the tech stuff! Good Job
The new Jeep at minimum would need to be gutted and simplified heavily before it would come within spitting distance of the old Willys. A lot of the remianing electronic modules would need to be relocated and hardened with ease of access in mind for ease of repairs. After that the suspension would have to be reinforced and the motor beefed up unless there is a strict order that the Jeep is a rear echelon vehicle and doesn't need to bear the weight of armor. It would be cheaper to modernize the old jeep probably.
The renegade didn’t win the comfort test, it broke the most glasses! You know the super old adage that totally wasn’t just made up… comfort is subjective but broken glass isn’t! P.S. this is the best tfl video ever P.P.S. Is it safe to say that you are the inventor of “jeep fishing”
The first "Jeep" that I drove was an "MB" model back in 1978. Having previously driven 40's and 50's vintage Dodge Power Wagons, the MB was quite sporty by comparison. I did own a '63 Willys Wagoneer that had a 389 Pontiac v8 with the 3sp manual and a single speed transfer case. But at 68 years old, I like the a/c and other features of my '96 ZJ and my '23 JLU. We have some diesel pickups that do the heavy work like towing our JLU when carrying our 4Wheel popup camper. So for the question about for the G.I. Joe vehicle, a military spec 4cyl turbo diesel may be good. But today solider has lots of gear they take everywhere. So any model Jeep may not work for todays soldier.
i think i rather have the willy run around for fun. or anything a bit newer but not too new. it's simplicity that's really attractive. the new wranglers are purely for families to get out and have fun simply the reason why it's so popular.
The type of guys who drove those old MB's in WWII combat even in artillary barrages had much bigger balls - and they didnt even think about acceleration runs they just ran for their lives
Regarding the MB brakes, show on video how to access the master cylinder. You should check to make sure the MC is full. I am guessing you are low on brake fluid.
Talking about the "squeaky" parts of the jeep.... My dad a 1948 C-J 2A, we replaced every single brake component and lubricated the pedals and it never stopped squeaking.... The jeeps name was "squeaky".... IDK why but every jeep from that era squeak's....
Good to see her out in the country! She took the course like a champ! You guys gonna do a night driving comparison? She's super fun to drive at night, its a totally different experience. Great job!
If Guido is driving, is the Banana's name actually Luigi, or Princess Pea?! Another fantastic series from TFL Classics! Look online, A Bridge too Far, James Caan's seen in the Jeep . . . great scene!
I would like to see how difficult it is to put the windshield down on new jeeps. Doesn't sound like it's fun. That's what I'd like to do when I had my CJ3A and CJ5 drive around with a windshield down!
My grandfather ( Bronze Star)told me, in the Pacific Theater in WW2, the Jeep had a Steel plate Welded to the bottom for "Jumping Jack" mines. He said that Jeep saved so many lives. He was WW2, Korea, Vietnam. He was a Awesome man. He loved that little Jeep, it got in the woods 🪓. He saw combat WW2, Korea, Vietnam. He is my Hero. Rest in Peace Sydney Dick Borress.
the old MB is the best vehicle you guys have in your fleet...the window folds down for a variety of reasons and made it very versatile...by having the window down, the passenger could quickly shoot from the more stable seated position if ambushed...also these jeeps were only built with an expected service life of 30 days in the field...to get the guys out of harms way, they could run for a time with the oil pan and or radiator blown out...the low compression loose tolerance engine could run on pretty much any volatile fluid you could scrounge up...lamp oil, diesel, kerosene, as long as there was some gasoline left in the tank to mix it a bit...i remember when these flat fenders could be picked up for a song, not so any longer...they are getting quite desirable now
I drive a restored MB.
I live in central AZ, in the desert foothills. I volunteered for the Black Canyon City Fire Department and we had a Willys Jeep equipped with a water tank, lights and sirens which was donated to us by State Land. I loved driving that thing all over creation putting out brush fires with shovels, rakes and hoes. Absolutely a great time!
I had my first Jeeps (all have been flatfenders) while living in Winslow, late 1990s / early 2000s.
First was a basically 'stock' (but for 12 volt conversion) '48 CJ2A, then a very beat Ford GPW with 283 Chevy... .
I bought a Willys MB last year with less than 1k on proper restoration.
I would love to see a picture of that jeep😂 probably looks so cool
I'm so glad Top Gear never ended. xD Cheers TFLC.
You and me both!
Yeah it became grand tour than went to replacement on you tube
Till you tube lefty idea end gas powered car channels
Cost of production, how easy they are to fix, how much risk there is of them breaking, whether they can be poured into pretty much any fuel, how easy they are to transport on a train, ship, or with an airplane, that's things that make the old Jeep win every day of the week.
Y’all need to get an old power wagon. Then you can compare the 40s jeep to a 40s power wagon. The original 4x4s
I had a friend with a couple MBs. He bought them cheap a very long time ago, taught his kids to drive on and off road in them, rebuilt them from the ground up with basic tools, twice, and still had them when he died a few years ago.
There's nothing like the MB on the market today, not even farm vehicles or UTVs. For their intended use and specs, they are still impressive, simple, durable, field-rebuildable machines. They were never intended for a world with 80mph interstates.
Definitely NOT a Roxor…
As someone who drives and restores military vehicles, they are fun, but the old ones are typically restored
Real Jeep vs a Chrysler cosplaying a Jeep.
Chrysler isn't the great company it was before. Hell, I'd go out of my way to say that they aren't a company anymore. Same with Jeep.
Fiat*
Jeep is no longer what it used to be. Though, Jeep was a name for the type of military vehicle and Ford was making Jeeps at one point. After Jeep became a brand, it was bought out many times throughout the years. Now I think it's Chinese owned.
@@thechevyman999 Fix It Again Toy with the Quality of dodgy.
I miss my 93Yj & 03 Tj! 😢 I would even go as far as saying also 91xj
Fuel Gauge in my 1948 CJ-3A never worked for more than a week. I used a piece of wood Broom Shaft, very handy and precise. And I even can mesure the fuel seated !!! What a convenience.
Just the same as the Ford Model T.
I carry a wood ruler.
two big differences is the new jeep is really built for the road & is OK off road when the road is wide The real Jeep was built for off road & to go down narrow trails & streets. It was to be simple & basic to keep the cost low but still built to carry & pull heavy loads. It could even replace a farm tractor. So why even compare the two when each one was designed for to do each a different task
Exactly. They are comparing a real jeep to a glorified modern sports utility vehicle. Then you get into stuff like electric shutoff, EMP pulse, GPS tracking and how once all that comes into play the real Jeep is still running and getting around
Exactly
100% Correct
Had a stock 1943 GPW back in mid 80s...most fun vehicle ever!
I am glad the MB jeeps are still around and you can actually buy brand new knockdown kits for them out of the Philippines. And you can still buy a manual 6 speed 2 seat soft top wrangler for almost affordable money.
Renegade is not a jeep. It's a fiat with underbody protection and programming for transmission/AWD to increase off-road performance. Seems like a good job by FCA/Stellaris engineers to maximize capability
Its kind of a parts bin car, too. The rear calipers have Alfa Romeo stamps on them
It is a Jeep and you can do Jeep things in it! I have a built JKU and My wife has a lifted Renegade with A/T tires. Both have done many Jeep Badge of honor trails.
@@dealy9268lol badge of honor. Gravel roads are harder.
@@rslover65 My FIAT Renegade Trailhawk handles trails like Slaughterhouse Gulch near Bailey, Colorado with little fuss or drama and it did so as it rolled off the show room floor when I bought it in 2015. The vehicle is more "Trail Rated" than most people are.
A Wrangler isn't either. I have a REAL JEEP sharing garage space with my 2015 FIAT Renegade Trailhawk. It's a '49 CJ 2A.
A Wrangler is too wide and too low-slung and packs too much trail-hugging lard to qualify as a real Jeep.
TFL is in great hands for the long term future!!! These 3 can give a more “Throttle House” sense of humor and vibe to the videos that the OG 3 can sometimes lack. Gives a more playful and creative approach to car reviews, which I think everyone can agree is what made Top Gear so amazing and legendary
Not to forget that the military Jeeps were built so an average, even dumb soldier could keep it running, repair it, rebuild it; often much in the field!
And consider that wheelbase in the tight woods!
I prefer the WWII Jeep
Great job guys! Would love to see some serous off road match ups with the old Jeep as well.
Coming soon!
I had an epiphany. The Willys MB probably had a significant influence on how modern vehicles operate. Anyone who could drive a manual today could drive it. The same can't be said about even automatic cars from that era.
Why not with automatics?
@@653j521 You must not have much experience with machines. I cannot explain in a comment. Study the manual of operation of the earliest automatic vehicles. And compare it to an automatic car from today. Cars have used electronics and computers to assist shifting sense the 1970's and earlier. And also compare it to an old manual car or piece of equipment. I can drive the a model T the car my grandparents pushed in when it was new. If you are 7 generations seperated from the invention of the automobile. I feel sorry for the state of the world.
The explosion had me rolling! Thought I was watching a WhistlinDiesel video for second.
The other thing you didn't check was, how much is the old Jeep going to be worth vs the new in another 80 years?...
New one will be destroyed and old one could still drive if its taken care of
My dad had a cj 3a for awhile. I loved driving it! 45 mph was pretty much max, but that was to be expected. The purest form of a jeep.
I will make a statement that not all agree & that is " They quit making a real Jeep when they stopped making the CJ-5"
Right!
CJ7
CJ7
I agree. Sort of. I think they quit making real Jeeps when AMC lengthened the CJ 5.
I had a TJ Wrangler. It didn't do anything my CJ-2A can't do, off pavement, but my CJ-2A is better on open, legal routes originally blazed by flat-fender Jeeps in the immediate post-war era.
The TJ was already too big doe my taste and they've only gone downhill from there.
I wholeheartedly second that sentiment at 28:28, we need a super simple bare bones one.
When considering the WWII Jeep you have to keep in mind that the other side was using horses and ox carts so that little Jeep was a big advantage.
The Germans really, ox carts?
@@darsco2290 Yes
@@darsco2290 Yes but not only. Look it up.
They had their own vw called the Kübelwagon which was only 2wd. They definitely had their own vehicles, not just ox carts.
@@troygallagher3459 Their numbers for the Kubelwagon and trucks were much lower than the Allies and they relied heavily on animal transport. That is why Allied fighters would strafe ox carts. The Germans built about 50,000 Kubelwagons over the course of the war, whereas the US produced over 640,000 Jeeps. Plus we had a huge number of trucks. The US alone produced over 2 million trucks.
The only other vehicle from that time period that went from military to civilian is the power wagon. It would be cool to do a comparison of your military jeep against a military power wagon
one thing that impresses me about the modern jeeps (Wranglers) as, compared to pretty much everything else, is the jeeps don't have a lot of extra 'bloat'..one example, the distance from the front grill to the radiator is mere inches in a jeep, that measurement is in feet in every other comparable vehicle. Getting into a modern Truck/SUV, you are enveloped in puffy plastic crap...the door panels are puffy, the dash is 3 feet deep...the center consoles are larger than mini-fridge...is all that plastic stuff really necessary?
Jeeps are small 🙄
And behind every grill about 2 or 4 inches you will, Guess what; find the radiator 😂
@@sixpest modern jeeps aren't really that small, they are just constructed more appropriately.
@@sixpest REAL JEEPS, like my '49 CJ 2A, are small. A Wrangler is a bloated thing with a track on par with a 70's full-size 4X4 and about a ton of excess trail-hugging lard.
I appreciate and enjoy the reviews of historic vehicles that "normal" people used (the military Jeep, the Ford Model T, and the Citroen 2CV), and especially that the commentary emphasizes the environments into which those vehicles came. Very respectful of the enormous amount of work that went into designing those vehicles for their intended environments, and of the accomplishments those vehicles made. Nonetheless, driving them in a modern environment (the Model T to a fast food drive-through and the Jeep on LA streets and freeways) was hysterical to watch.
yes!!..sometimes it's refreshing to see the vehicles of the past, some of which we drove in our youth and those which none of us would have driven...and the simplicity of them!!
I have a friend who lives in northern Minnesota and has a lot of experience with driving in snow. He claims the best vehicle he has driven for riding in snow is the WW2 era Jeep. WW2 Jeep vs Model T might be a better thing to do
A modern Rubicon needs less automation and more repairability to be "warzone ready." Fewer electronics. Make the diffs Detroit locker style. Give manual locking hubs. Etc. They're so capable but to be reliable enough to be used in combat they have to be much simpler and field-repairable.
The throttle lock is for PTO mounted items such as the fire pump and field generator plus a variety of farm and forestry equipment in civilian use.
My Dad drove them in the Pacific Theater during WW2 (Sergeant and Jungle Raider with the Americal Division of the 182d Infantry HQ) and liked the original better than the others such as the Ford with its independent front suspension which he said was only really good for around base and not rugged enough for off-road use. After an EMP event the old MB will likely still be running while all the new ones with their multiple computers, etc will be primarily lawn art.
Repairs for the most part on the MB could be done with a highly specialized tool kit comprising of a pair of pliers, adjustable wrench and a few flat head screwdrivers while the new ones require a much more complex tool kit including computers and the training to be able to use them.
The steering probably needs adjustment on that MB if it really has more than 1 inch of play in the steering wheel and may also need the caster set better on the front axle. Most people mess up and only adjust the cross shaft connected to the pitman arm on the steering box without first adjusting the end play on the worm shaft attached to the steering column. You have to adjust both or eventually you'll destroy the bottom end of the worm shaft where it serves as the inner race for the bearing on that end.
Also to run higher RPM during radio use.
@@-oiiio-3993 A co-worker ordered 12 Army Surplus Radios about 50 years ago and got a frantic call from his wife when they delivered them. He didn't realize that what he bid on was crated WW2 Jeeps with radios installed in them. They delivered them on a flatbed with a crane and stacked the crates 3 high on his front lawn since they had nowhere else to put them.
He built a ramp to roll them off.
Best!
I love the dropping of the rock 😂😂😂
tbf. suburban is not just the longest running name plate. but had its start in ww1. as a literal wagon on a truck chassis. so that comparison between suburban and wagon i found humorous. but chevy built the original to send over seas with the military. those guys came back to the US and wanted that vehicle. chevy seeing the demand. made the 1st ever suvs. but it wasnt called an suv till much later. suburbans are my all time fav.
That competition was pretty funny.
In the future if you are going to always catch and release in your pond maybe use J hooks instead of Treble hooks because it will be alot easier to remove the hooks from the fish's mouths and especially if they swallow it down deep.
Take it camping in the woods or wilderness. Take it offroad on the trails and through the woods. Then tell me which one you prefer. I could take my 4x4 2022 GMC Sierra truck and do all the things the modern jeep is doing. But could you squeeze in all the tight places? If the electric system or computer shut down would you still be rolling? Is it the same outdoor experience?
The moustache cracked me up. Def need to build that into a series
The Moustache Rides 😂
Super Mario Jeep
... as someone that watches Whistlin Diesel, I gotta say... that "glass" test wasn't really uh... extreme.
I love Whistlin Diesel 😭😭
Honestly they would've been better off with plates, you even look at a dinner plate wrong and it'll explode. Also why didn't they test it in the seats instead of the back of the jeep? Not applying this to the oldest jeep that is a two seater, but for the four seaters you should be testing comfort where people will sit. Older jeaps, pretty much anywhere is considered a seating position as proven by the last video on this.
TJs/LJs were the best, IMO. They just need the upper suspension linkage triangulated, to eliminate the trouble-prone trackbars.
They were comfortable enough, yet still simple enough.
The CJ8 and LJ were even big enough to haul the family and their stuff, while towing a boat or camper.
The aftermarket support could make them FANTASTIC.
another fantastic video TFL crew!
Thanks again!
03:38 - They _really_ should have shifted to '4-Lo' for this.
"Off road cruise control set to three miles per hour" for the new one, Don't know how to use gears or T-case on the other.
Brakes are a somewhat abstract concept on flat fendered Jeeps.
36:37 - The nine slot, stamped steel grille was introduced by Ford during early production of the GPW, which was built by Ford as subcontractor to the Willys Overland contract for Truck, 1/4 Ton, 4X4, G503 (Willys MB). The first several thousand Willys MB and Ford GPW had the welded strap iron grilles of prototype and pre production models. By war's end Willys had built over 360,000 MBs and Ford over 280,000 of their Model GPW.
I drive a recently restored Willys MB, myself.
😂 ALEX AND THE MUSTACHE 😂
It’s a culture not a costume!!! lol
You should compare the willys to the sierra
Old-school Jeep for the win! 😎
I don't have anything bad to say about the new Jeeps. It's the new Jeep drivers I'm not a fan of. They go and buy an SUV that gets bad gas mileage compared to other new cars, dress it up to look like a serious off road vehicle, and only drive on paved roads with the doors off. I'm sure there are people who actually take them off road a lot, but for the most part, they're just status symbols. That's my opinion anyway.
Depending on where youre at, there arent a lot of trails that accept full size vehicles.
Would have been cool to have tested a new 2 door Willy’s with top and doors off
Great video, more Grand cherokee content please 😅
ZJ for life!
A bit of black smoke coming out while doing the 0-60 run , not sure if the Fiat engine has anything to do with it :D
The war willys are my favorite convertibles!
I have a uilt JKU and a Built Renegade sport. I have built them both. My wife drives the Renegade. We have taken both of them to and on many trails. The Renegade has handled everything we have put it through. It has done many of the JBOH trails. Don't hate. I admit I was shocked at how well it does.
I was sad when the Top Gear trio and then The Grand Tour, stopped their series, TFL is becoming a great replacement! I’ve been watching since 2012 and it’s incredible to see how the channel has grown. 👏🏼
JL vs MB head to head on Hell's Revenge!
The leather strip on the helmet isn’t a strap for your chin, it’s supposed to mount around the bead of the helmets lip.
I had a 63 falcon with a squeaky clutch linkage that nothing would stop until I used tri -flow lubricant .
No more squeaks.
Fantastic vid!!
So much fun to watch!!
Great job, guys!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The military copy is just slightly different than my CJ7!
loved this video! more like this, please. the future of TFL 👍🏼
The sillier the test, the more I enjoy the video
The real test would be soccer ⚽️
Rocket League 😂😂
The JLU should OWN that competition. That's the majority vehicle at every AYSO event in the city I live in.
"Best 4X4 for AYSO by far....."
The ole jeep is nostalgic, but the late 70s thru the 80's Wranglers were my favorite and most comfortable. They also seem to have more room with the exception of the longer 2010 2 door Wrangler
There's no such thing as a 70's Wrangler. The Wrangler YJ replaced the CJ-7 in 1987.
Very entertaining gentlemen.
I can very easily imagine what driving a MB is like... It seems extremely familiar to the 40s/ 50s "farm" trucks.
That was very cool! I agree with Tommy about Jeep coming out with a basic SUV starting at $21K. If the vehicle is not too wide, it would fit in my garage of my townhouse and have plenty of clearance from my automatic garage door opener unit.
My parents did own a Jeep Renegade back in the 70's. That was a real Renegade not what they are trying to pass off as a Renegade today.
This contest was over before it started because the wheel-base is too long on the new Jeep. The Wrangler stopped being a serious off-roader when they started making them with four doors - the wheel base is just too long. They are little more than mall cruisers now. The most crucial aspect in the success of the original Jeep was its short wheelbase.
Video of the year 🍻
25:20 I was in a similar situation in a zero turn mower, it started sliding sideways down a hill, there was no stopping it. I had no seat belt on, roll bar was down, just stepped right off it as it slid down the hill and then it flipped at the bottom. Only problem was, it smoked a bit when we restarted it (it was a diesel)
Which is why they tell you never to go across a slope on one of those things
@@kevinbarry71I've been in the landscaping/lawncare business for almost 25 years, and I've never heard that. Wasn't even that big of a slope anyway
@@mirthenary but yet you've lost control
Cub Cadet has a zero turn with a steering wheel now that is designed to go cross-slope should you need to.
@kevinbarry71 that's still got nothing to do with the fact I have never heard of it before
I'm going to binge watch this channel
The Renegade actually performed pretty good during this.
"It locks it into 1st gear" 😂 Thats not low range, thats just sad!
Actually, it IS low range. A Renegade Trailhawk has a 4.33:1 final drive ratio. The ZF 9 HP has a 4.7:1 first gear that isn't used in ordinary street driving, where the vehicle starts off in a 2.842:1 second gear and pretty immediately upshifts into a 1.909 third gear. Third gear is 8.26:1. My old '73 Bronco had 3.50 final drive gears and a 2.42:1 first gear for a combined gear reduction of 8.47:1. The point is that third gear in my Renegade Trailhawk is more or less what first gear would feel like in most 70s, 80s, and 90s four-wheel drives with automatic transmissions.
My Bronco, in low range and first gear, had a mechanical gear reduction of 20.4974:1
My Renegade in first gear has a mechanical gear reduction of 20.351:1
Both have an addition torque multiplication potential of 2:1 from their transmission's torque converters.
So, the EFFECTIVE torque multiplication in the Renegade Trailhawk is actually 40.702:1
The EFFECTIVER torque multiplication in my 73 Bronco that I used to have was 40.9148:1
In second gear, the EFFECTIVE torque multiplication of the Renegade Trailhawk is 24,61172:1
My old Bronco, in low range and second gear, had an effective torque multiplication of 24.0548:1
For comparison, the MB and GPW WWII Jeeps have a 25:1 compound low gear.
In off-pavement driving in the Bronco, low range, second gear was sufficiently low for most stretches of trail.
In my 2015 Renegade, second gear is essentially the same torque multiplication as my Bronco was in 2nd and low range.
That's the sort of stuff that real automotive journalists of the print media era like Brock Yates and Don Sherman, who were both SAE members, both understood and were capable of explaining, so people like you wouldn't get the idea that something is "sad" when it isn't.
The four-low button does lock the transmission into first gear. That's true, but only by half, and a half truth is still a whole lie. Pushing that button also tames the nanny algorithms from cutting engine torque in an effort to protect the drivetrain from being broken by those who bought and paid for it.
What TFL never mentions, ever, is that a Renegade Trailhawk in first and second gear is more or less like running most legacy four-wheel drives with three and four speed automatic transmissions in their first and second gears with the transfer case in low.
So, it isn't that the Renegade Trailhawk doesn't have "true low range gearing." It does. It's lower in terms of torque multiplication than a Willys MB, Ford GPW, or stock CJ-2A, and on-par with pretty much every legacy four-wheel drive with a two-speed transfer case and a three or four speed automatic transmission.
When the 2015 Renegade Trailhawk was launched, Jeep engineers made a big deal about the 20:1 "crawl ratio" of the vehicle. They did that for a reason, which I have illustrated above. That 20:1 comes from gear reduction. Torque converters don't have gears, but still have the capacity to multiply torque in a variable range between 2:1 and 1;1 and it is "on demand" in nature, with the multiplication ratio decreasing as input and output speeds equalize.
The torque converter is why cars and trucks with automatic transmissions commonly had a 2.42:1 first gear. Off the line, that's really like having a purely mechanical 4.84:1 first gear. You're not just getting torque multiplication form gear reduction, but also via hydraulic means, and the combination of the two gives your EFFETIVE torque multiplication.
The Renegade Trailhawk's transmission has a 9.808:1 ratio span with an average step of 1.33:1 between each of the 9 forward gears. 1St is 4.7:1 and 9th is 0.48:1. Jeep engineers capitalized on this in a way that is anything but "sad".
If 40:1 effective torque multiplication in first gear, low range, and 24:1 in second gear, low range was low enough for the trail the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s, how is the Renegade Trailhawk "sad" for supplying THE EXACT SAME THING in first and second gear?
Do you believe, as these "journalists" at TFL seem to, that the tires care about whether the 40:1 turning them comes from Torque Converter X Planetary Gears X Final Drive or Torque Converter X Planetary Gears x Transfer Case Low Range X Final Drive?
From an engineering standpoint, if one drive train layout is superior to the other, it should be the one that gets torque to the tires with the least parasitic driveline loss and that would the layout that gets the same gearing from one gearbox instead of two.
Another benefit to getting low range gearing WITHOUT using a transfer case to do it is that there's no transfer case to get hung up on anything. The underside of a Renegade Trailhawk is pretty damn "slick" without much to get snagged on anything.
I bought a 2015 Renegade Trailhawk because I understood that 20:1 mechanical reduction is 20:1 whether it comes from a transmission and transfer case or a transmission alone and I also understand how and why that feels like 40:1 in use because of the 2:1 torque multiplication potential of the torque converter. I also knew that 8.7" of running ground clearance is the same as the 8.7" of running ground clearance on a CJ-2A. I know that a CJ 2 A's stock 44 degree approach angle is limited in usefulness by a stock CJ 2 A's 31 degree departure, You only need as much approach angle as the ass end can handle. A stock Renegade Trailhawk has an approach angle of 31 degrees, a departure angle of 34, and a breakover angle of 25.7 to a stock CJ 2 A's 25. It also has 200mm / 7.8" of wheel travel, fully functional skid plates, and fully functional recovery points.
I wasn't surprised, at all, when it did the Slaughterhouse Gulch trail near Bailey, Colorado with no fuss or drama as it rolled off the showroom floor.
Math said it haa low enough gearing, enough running ground clearance, and enough approach, breakover, and departure angle to go pretty much anywhere my stock '49 CJ-2A can.
I was an early adopter, buying mine in 2014 from the first batch to arrive. I didn't hang on to the thing for a decade because it is "sad". I've hung on to it because it does all of the Jeep Things I care to do in a Jeep, having enough capability for the overwhelming majority of open, legal routes on BLM and Forest Service land with ZERO MODIFICATION required. It gets 30 mpg on the highways that get me to National Forests and BLM lands and, when I get to them, it'll get 20 mpg in the dirt, no matter how much time the transmission spends in first gear.
Sad that the best Jeep I've ever had is a FIAT and not the CJ 2A in my garage, or the TJ I had, or the 2DR XJ I had, but I frankly don't miss the TJ, at all, I do sometimes miss the XJ, but generally find those feeling fleeting while I'm at the gas pump. I don't really use my CJ-2A much, anymore. I probably wouldn't miss it if I sold it.
Some teenage dork in a paper-plated Wrangler Rubicon took the liberty of informing me that I didn't have a real Jeep as I loaded camping gear I bought into the back of my "FIAT." He went on to say "If you can't use a Jeep for the Rubicon, it's useless as a Jeep."
"Ah, but I DO use it for the Rubicon now," I said. "I use it to get me to Georgetown, CA and, once I'm there, I park it and ride a street legal dual-sport motorcycle that probably cost me less than your wheels, tires, and lift, combined. I don't get the crap beat out of me on the bike and I can do the whole trail from there to Lake Tahoe and back in hours, rather than days, no matter how much I'm stopping to view the scenery."
I don't think there's much about the Renegade Trailhawk that is sad. It is the only Jeep I've ever had that I actually enjoy as a daily driver and I have just as much fun on Forest Service and BLM land with it as I've had in any other Jeep product I've owned.
Thanks for comparison. Enjoyable video, guys!
Now, you need the most recent 'Jeep', or JLTV, for a complete comparison!
Imagine how well a jeep repro would sell, if not Priced like a modern vehicle
Mahindra sells the MB design. The Jeep is not road legal anymore but they sell it as an off-road only vehicle.
I want to see both do the full off road course
Nope. It would not. Awesome video guys!
the willy's wins, because no one would have a chance of fixing the other jeeps in the 40's.
I would like to have this old Jeep! ❤
I would love to see the MB vs a stock TJ! To me they both held the essence of exploring and fun and capability! Great video! You two are the ones who need to do the off road stuff with the tech stuff! Good Job
The new Jeep at minimum would need to be gutted and simplified heavily before it would come within spitting distance of the old Willys.
A lot of the remianing electronic modules would need to be relocated and hardened with ease of access in mind for ease of repairs.
After that the suspension would have to be reinforced and the motor beefed up unless there is a strict order that the Jeep is a rear echelon vehicle and doesn't need to bear the weight of armor.
It would be cheaper to modernize the old jeep probably.
Dolphin plush... That's weird! Lol
The renegade didn’t win the comfort test, it broke the most glasses! You know the super old adage that totally wasn’t just made up… comfort is subjective but broken glass isn’t! P.S. this is the best tfl video ever P.P.S. Is it safe to say that you are the inventor of “jeep fishing”
I think the stealth test should be redone for visibility at night. The WWII Jeep actually has blackout lights
One of your best and most enjoyable videos ever! I love your channels, so informative and so real. Keep it up! From the Canadian West Coast.
Wow, thank you!
The new jeeps would break down too much and would be a pain to repair. Old willys are simple, reliable, easy to fix if needed
You two are adorable. "Right you are, Case!" I love your chemistry together.
The first "Jeep" that I drove was an "MB" model back in 1978. Having previously driven 40's and 50's vintage Dodge Power Wagons, the MB was quite sporty by comparison. I did own a '63 Willys Wagoneer that had a 389 Pontiac v8 with the 3sp manual and a single speed transfer case. But at 68 years old, I like the a/c and other features of my '96 ZJ and my '23 JLU. We have some diesel pickups that do the heavy work like towing our JLU when carrying our 4Wheel popup camper. So for the question about for the G.I. Joe vehicle, a military spec 4cyl turbo diesel may be good. But today solider has lots of gear they take everywhere. So any model Jeep may not work for todays soldier.
I drive a restored MB.
4:13 "...you bought the strongest glasses...", yeah right, "....Grandma's glasses..."🤣 Great video
Fantastic video!! You guys killed it!!
i think i rather have the willy run around for fun. or anything a bit newer but not too new. it's simplicity that's really attractive. the new wranglers are purely for families to get out and have fun simply the reason why it's so popular.
The type of guys who drove those old MB's in WWII combat even in artillary barrages had much bigger balls - and they didnt even think about acceleration runs they just ran for their lives
My favorite part of the jeep test was the first cast. The second was better and 4 minutes isnt bad for a fish. Wonder what lure- Oh right, the car
Some of the noise you hear on the 4xe is the electric power steering pump
Regarding the MB brakes, show on video how to access the master cylinder. You should check to make sure the MC is full. I am guessing you are low on brake fluid.
Talking about the "squeaky" parts of the jeep.... My dad a 1948 C-J 2A, we replaced every single brake component and lubricated the pedals and it never stopped squeaking.... The jeeps name was "squeaky".... IDK why but every jeep from that era squeak's....
one's 80 years old, the other will be lucky to make 3 years! Last time i picked up consumer reports Jeep was dead last in reliability.
They do sell a overdrive unit for older Jeeps to inprove top end. Also the newer CJs and YJs have much better brakes and handling...
Really liking this format of content - subbed!
Awesome, thank you!
Good to see her out in the country! She took the course like a champ! You guys gonna do a night driving comparison? She's super fun to drive at night, its a totally different experience. Great job!
If Guido is driving, is the Banana's name actually Luigi, or Princess Pea?!
Another fantastic series from TFL Classics!
Look online, A Bridge too Far, James Caan's seen in the Jeep . . . great scene!
I would like to see how difficult it is to put the windshield down on new jeeps. Doesn't sound like it's fun. That's what I'd like to do when I had my CJ3A and CJ5 drive around with a windshield down!