Thank you- Exactly what I have been looking for! I’m planning to buy this model within the next couple days and have been concerned at all the negative comments I’ve seen about Speed IQ. Your description helps to break this down a bit.
I just bought the LM2167SP Select Cut XP this week at Lowes on sale @ $699.99 using a Lowes 20% off coupon (MAX DISCOUNT OF $100) my final price was $599.99/ $636. w/tax. I sold the battery and the charger to a friend as I didn't need either of them for $575. , Now I have the newest EGO mower for a whopping total final cost of $61.00 . My wife now totally approves of my purchase. I'm still not thrilled about the Speed IQ feature vs my last EGO model that used the barrel adjuster and the handle paddles. Mower lurches forward too much sometimes and the loud sounds it makes while in auto self propel mode id annoying even when using earphones.. I wish they made the on/off button for speed control a-lot bigger, as it doesn't always respond to the push. But hey I can't complain too much for a total cost of $61.00 for the mower. :)
The more I use it I find that several of the buttons aren't responding to push from time to time. I find myself using it without self propel more than with. You got a great deal!
Best mower review video I'veen. Thanks. Is there a setting for self propel on but speed iq off? I need the torque and amphours of this mower but need to do lots of direction changes while mowing my ground and speed iq would hhurt, not help.
Thanks for the kind words. It does not have a self propel without using the speed iq unfortunately. I would probably recommend the 2156 model if that's what you want. It has the same torque, just comes with a 10 AH battery instead of 12. And of course no digital screen or speed IQ. And I think they are marked down to like $650 at Lowes right now from $859.
The LM2142sp has 8.3lbs of torque and runs on 1 or 2 batteries, and spreads the load across the 2 batteries to help extend their lifespan. At $699 with 2 5.0 amp batteries included, Im debating between it and this newer one. I could use those 2 5a batteries in other tools, where I wouldnt be able to use the 12a without a backpack. The 2142 only has 1 blade, but I guess you can upgrade it to 2. Tough decision. Great video by the way, you showed it off well.
Thanks! Somebody else in the comments just pointed that out as well. I did not know that! Yeah, this 12 AH battery weighs almost 8 lbs. Not something you want to be toting around on your string trimmer or something like that.
@Fix it Flip Does the turbo mode on the 2167 really make a noticeable difference in cut quality vs the 2156 which does not have turbo mode? It just increases the blade speed from 2800rpm to 3000 rpm.
I can definitely tell a difference on turbo mode. I would say it cuts better, yes. But not sure if it's worth the extra money taking into account the self-propel issues.
You definitely do not have to use it. My yard is hilly so I typically have it off when going downhill and on when going uphill. But it is very light. You don't need it much.
Thank you for this in-depth review on this LM2167SP mower that I have been considering. I really like the digital display for the easy readout and battery life, the full-time minimum Turbo blade speed to get better suctions when doing maintance cuts at higher settings (all XP motors have the same maximum blade speed), 12.0Ah battery for the runtime and the wire-less single clip retractable handle bar. Yes, the final item that holding me back for the decision is the Speed IQ and based on the review I may have to wait for another model to replace my current LM2142SP (or name it correctly, a retrofitted EGO Select Cut LM2146SP XP with Peak Power technology!) It is true that the LM2156SP & LM2167SP are the only two models EGO advertised with the XP 1200W 8.3ft-lb torque brushless motor; however, the very first original EGO mower with this XP motor that is never advertised to date is actually the current LM2142SP equipped with Peak Power technology. Introduced in 2018 with the XP motor which requires minimum of 10.0Ah power to produce the optimum perform required EGO to provided 2 x 5.0Ah batteries and paired them with the Peak Technology to achieve the possibility with 80 min. of runtime. Retrofitted it with the EGO Select Cut High Lift blade set (best setup for any cut), fan and washer it is easily turned into a Select Cut model in 15 minutes and with the extra weight and resistance of the blade assembly this XP motor will always be spinning at Turbo blade speed. When paired with two 10.0Ah batteries from the snow blower at 20.0Ah it becomes a LM214"6"SP (new EGO naming: "2"=5.0Ah, "4"=6.0Ah, "5"=7.5Ah, "6"=10.0Ah, "7"=12.0Ah on the last digit of the model number) with extra weight to hold down the mower and the runtime that I don't even pay attention anymore after cutting 5,700 square feet with 5~7 degreed slops and still have two bars on each 10.0Ah battery to trim with the IQ trimmer and the 765CFM blower without running out of battery power at the end. I am hoping to see a Peak Power model with everything LM2167SP has to offers without the Speed IQ (Touch Drive or dual leaver on each side of handle would do fine for me) and maybe with a wider cutting deck like 24" or 30" in the future. Thank you again for this in-depth review that really help me for my decision. Maybe I will pick one up when it's on a deep discount sale but not right now.
@@fixitFlip it's only pure luck when I cross reference the part number of the motor on EGO's website to realize they are the same unit when I was thinking about upgrading the motor on my old LM2102SP.
Everything you said in your first paragraph I was about to write myself, except that I have the LM2101. I really wanted to upgrade to their best mower and this one looks like it, but they really effed up with that self propelled feature. I like everything about this mower, but I don't want any part of that self-propelled nightmare. I'd be happy upgrading my LM2101 with the dual blade hack but I'm not sure the motor would be up for the task, maybe upgrade the motor. It's a slippery slope.
@@infotime not sure about the motor on the LM2100 but I know for sure the LM2100SP's more powerful none brushless motor did do the job fine for me as long as you have extra battery to compensate the list of runtime.
You nailed the issues with the Speed IQ. If you have long, straight cuts, the Speed IQ can be very nice, but if you have landscaped yard with lots of curves, the Speed IQ can be very aggravating. If you have to make some short pushes, combined with the fact that the clutch does not always release right away can make it feel like you are wrestling with the mower and while the mower is not super heavy, if you are doing a lot of short pushes such as those under overhanging shrubs, it can tiring to use the mower even if you have the drive off.
I have heard some complaints about the Speed IQ self-propelled feature as the mower controls the self-propelled feature. Personally this is not a issue for me at all. I have no trouble controlling the mower even without it adjusting the self-propelled speed on it's own. Plus you can turn the self-propelled feature off and on while the mower is running. ECO Mode is usually enough to cut 90% of my lawn. This mower can be a bit of a power hog unless you are using the Eco Mode feature but for a regular EGO user with other EGO products and batteries that is not really a major concern. Overall I think this mower is better than what people give it credit for and the monitor screen is brilliant. The only thing that would make that part better is if it told you the time as well which there is certainly enough room on the monitor for. Simple solution, just let us put a double A battery in the next model so a clock could remember the time when there is no EGO Battery in it. I have bad flat feet and the self-propelled feature make me feel like I am walking the mower almost like you walk a dog instead of pushing or without constantly having to push a handle. Having this mower is a great relief to my flat feet.
I agree that the display is great. And this mower is great in straight lines and open areas. I just don't like how it tries to jump out of my hands when I need to stop it. I do find myself using it more with the self-propel off lately.
I ordered the lm2167sp last month it was doa EGO won't back it with the same mower to many issues people are reporting to them, they instead sent me the lm2156sp g3 2 kits with two batteries and charger and get to keep the new 12ah battery as well. I am glad it worked for you but I hope you don't have any issues and I hope you bought it locally I bought mine off of Amazon. Looks like it ran like a champ though. Sucks Ego didn't just replace the one I got with the same one. But the lm2156sp g3 has the 8 height settings and the phone holder as well to my surprise they did some small upgrades to the mower including the more aggressive wheels and the brighter green highlights. It looks very similar to the new lm2167sp.
Oh yeah. It's super light so you really don't need the self-propel unless going uphill or got some super long grass. Just the push of a button. @@SkiTzO251
@Fix it Flip what about the mohawk. Can you talk more about that. One reason I was thinking about going to the top of the line EGO mower was go avoid that. I get it on my LM2101 and don't recall ever having that problem with gas powered mowers.
I would say possibly a dull blade or low blade speed. But this blade was brand new and it has plenty of blade speed. My guess is I just wasn't overlapping my lines enough.
@@fixitFlip I don't know how much overlapping one needs to do. But this is their top of the line mower, new blade, highest power and torque - and it still has mohawks. I thought upgrading my low end model would fix it. Maybe it's just an inherent flaw with EGO mowers.
When we bought the older Ego we were disappointed that it wasn't self propelled. Then we realized that the mower weighed about as much as an empty baby stroller...and we never missed it. It is almost insulting that something so light would be expected to self propel and we felt silly that we did. It is holdover from heavy gas mowers. I imagine they added it because of that point of sale expectation.
I was really looking forward to the Speed IQ since im coming from the Toro Timemaster with the personal pace system. That system works flawlessly. Unfortunately this is a pass for me.
The high grass i make the mower do wheelies > Blades? The standard Oregon Blades are the best. and cheaper > They out last all the rest ~ The price is right. but i don't like the way it cuts
@fixitFlip I am a 64 year old widow. I now have to do my own thing as far as my lawn goes. These instructional contents help more than you can imagine. I can only aspire to have a beautiful lawn. You have skills. Thanks again.
Well, I’m very sorry to hear about your husband but I’m glad that I can be of some assistance. That’s why I started this channel in the first place. If you ever have questions or need some guidance, as far as lawn care or lawnmowers go, please ask. Happy to do my best to help.
600 usd for a battery is insane. I don’t care how nice these mowers are, they’re just still way too expensive to buy extra stuff for. 600 dollars I can buy a new Honda and be happy for the next 20 years
I bought a rather cheap Troy-Bilt mower a few years ago; maybe spent $300 or $350. I also pay about $100 for an annual tuneup. And then I spend about another $100 to $120 for gas. Unfortunately, my mower has an issue with constantly stalling out. Today I spent more time trying to get it going than actually mowing. I wanted to wear it out before spending a ton of money on an electric mower, but I’m heading to the hardware store tomorrow to hopefully get one of these EGOs. I think it’s going to cost me less money-and a lot less frustration-over the long haul.
@@fixitFlip , I picked up an EGO mower today at Lowe’s. Gave it a quick go when I got it home as my gas mower quit before finishing my mowing yesterday. As much as I am looking forward to not worrying about the maintenance issues I do have my doubts about its ability to finely mulch the leaves in the coming weeks. I guess I’ll just have to work harder at blowing them over to my neighbor’s yard! (Yes, I’ll take a look; I’d like to keep it if I can get it to run again.)
Ha ha! My only experience is with this model. And I can honestly say it mulches awesome on Turbo mode. Leaves and all. Can't speak much for the older models. @@mitchrodee
They're not cheap. But neither are gas riding mowers these days. I bought a Troy-Bilt Pony for $900 about 15 years ago and they go for $2089 at HD right now.
In so high I’ve been watching this video for 3 minutes and don’t know why and how. Don’t have a yard, don’t care for mowers, fuck this algorithm and this video sucks.
Loved seeing the little one on the edge of the video when you were cutting the front yard haha. Great video you've got here.
Thank you. It never hurts to have a cute baby in the video, right? Lol
Thank you- Exactly what I have been looking for! I’m planning to buy this model within the next couple days and have been concerned at all the negative comments I’ve seen about Speed IQ. Your description helps to break this down a bit.
Glad I could help!
Great review! Lots of good information
Thanks, Joel! Hope all is well in TX!
That digital screen looks great! Having said that, going to go with the LM2156 since the Speed IQ sounds a bit too cumbersome vs. the touch drive.
Probably a good choice.
Outstanding review! Very thorough!
Thank you for the kind words!
Thanks for a complete and honest review!
No problem!
Tons of useful info
Thanks!
I just bought the LM2167SP Select Cut XP this week at Lowes on sale @ $699.99 using a Lowes 20% off coupon (MAX DISCOUNT OF $100) my final price was $599.99/ $636. w/tax. I sold the battery and the charger to a friend as I didn't need either of them for $575. , Now I have the newest EGO mower for a whopping total final cost of $61.00 . My wife now totally approves of my purchase. I'm still not thrilled about the Speed IQ feature vs my last EGO model that used the barrel adjuster and the handle paddles. Mower lurches forward too much sometimes and the loud sounds it makes while in auto self propel mode id annoying even when using earphones.. I wish they made the on/off button for speed control a-lot bigger, as it doesn't always respond to the push. But hey I can't complain too much for a total cost of $61.00 for the mower. :)
The more I use it I find that several of the buttons aren't responding to push from time to time. I find myself using it without self propel more than with. You got a great deal!
How does the mower push with the self propelled turned off? Is it just like any other push mower?
Yes, it's very light due to the plastic deck, so it pushes pretty easily.
Best mower review video I'veen. Thanks. Is there a setting for self propel on but speed iq off? I need the torque and amphours of this mower but need to do lots of direction changes while mowing my ground and speed iq would hhurt, not help.
Thanks for the kind words. It does not have a self propel without using the speed iq unfortunately. I would probably recommend the 2156 model if that's what you want. It has the same torque, just comes with a 10 AH battery instead of 12. And of course no digital screen or speed IQ. And I think they are marked down to like $650 at Lowes right now from $859.
The LM2142sp has 8.3lbs of torque and runs on 1 or 2 batteries, and spreads the load across the 2 batteries to help extend their lifespan. At $699 with 2 5.0 amp batteries included, Im debating between it and this newer one. I could use those 2 5a batteries in other tools, where I wouldnt be able to use the 12a without a backpack. The 2142 only has 1 blade, but I guess you can upgrade it to 2. Tough decision. Great video by the way, you showed it off well.
Thanks! Somebody else in the comments just pointed that out as well. I did not know that! Yeah, this 12 AH battery weighs almost 8 lbs. Not something you want to be toting around on your string trimmer or something like that.
@@fixitFlip 👍
Helped thanks
No problem.
@Fix it Flip Does the turbo mode on the 2167 really make a noticeable difference in cut quality vs the 2156 which does not have turbo mode? It just increases the blade speed from 2800rpm to 3000 rpm.
I can definitely tell a difference on turbo mode. I would say it cuts better, yes. But not sure if it's worth the extra money taking into account the self-propel issues.
Do you have to use self propelled ? Wouldn't it save battery if you just push ?
You definitely do not have to use it. My yard is hilly so I typically have it off when going downhill and on when going uphill. But it is very light. You don't need it much.
Thank you for this in-depth review on this LM2167SP mower that I have been considering. I really like the digital display for the easy readout and battery life, the full-time minimum Turbo blade speed to get better suctions when doing maintance cuts at higher settings (all XP motors have the same maximum blade speed), 12.0Ah battery for the runtime and the wire-less single clip retractable handle bar. Yes, the final item that holding me back for the decision is the Speed IQ and based on the review I may have to wait for another model to replace my current LM2142SP (or name it correctly, a retrofitted EGO Select Cut LM2146SP XP with Peak Power technology!)
It is true that the LM2156SP & LM2167SP are the only two models EGO advertised with the XP 1200W 8.3ft-lb torque brushless motor; however, the very first original EGO mower with this XP motor that is never advertised to date is actually the current LM2142SP equipped with Peak Power technology. Introduced in 2018 with the XP motor which requires minimum of 10.0Ah power to produce the optimum perform required EGO to provided 2 x 5.0Ah batteries and paired them with the Peak Technology to achieve the possibility with 80 min. of runtime. Retrofitted it with the EGO Select Cut High Lift blade set (best setup for any cut), fan and washer it is easily turned into a Select Cut model in 15 minutes and with the extra weight and resistance of the blade assembly this XP motor will always be spinning at Turbo blade speed. When paired with two 10.0Ah batteries from the snow blower at 20.0Ah it becomes a LM214"6"SP (new EGO naming: "2"=5.0Ah, "4"=6.0Ah, "5"=7.5Ah, "6"=10.0Ah, "7"=12.0Ah on the last digit of the model number) with extra weight to hold down the mower and the runtime that I don't even pay attention anymore after cutting 5,700 square feet with 5~7 degreed slops and still have two bars on each 10.0Ah battery to trim with the IQ trimmer and the 765CFM blower without running out of battery power at the end.
I am hoping to see a Peak Power model with everything LM2167SP has to offers without the Speed IQ (Touch Drive or dual leaver on each side of handle would do fine for me) and maybe with a wider cutting deck like 24" or 30" in the future. Thank you again for this in-depth review that really help me for my decision. Maybe I will pick one up when it's on a deep discount sale but not right now.
Glad I could help. And very useful information about the LM2142SP!! You know your stuff!
@@fixitFlip it's only pure luck when I cross reference the part number of the motor on EGO's website to realize they are the same unit when I was thinking about upgrading the motor on my old LM2102SP.
@@Jeo-What Very interesting!!
Everything you said in your first paragraph I was about to write myself, except that I have the LM2101. I really wanted to upgrade to their best mower and this one looks like it, but they really effed up with that self propelled feature. I like everything about this mower, but I don't want any part of that self-propelled nightmare.
I'd be happy upgrading my LM2101 with the dual blade hack but I'm not sure the motor would be up for the task, maybe upgrade the motor. It's a slippery slope.
@@infotime not sure about the motor on the LM2100 but I know for sure the LM2100SP's more powerful none brushless motor did do the job fine for me as long as you have extra battery to compensate the list of runtime.
Will it cut Grass and Weeds
Absolutely.
I ordered a 2114SP lower model from Ace for $550 and they sent me the 2167SP $1000 model and i almost died 😂. Got a free huge upgrade
Jackpot!
You nailed the issues with the Speed IQ. If you have long, straight cuts, the Speed IQ can be very nice, but if you have landscaped yard with lots of curves, the Speed IQ can be very aggravating. If you have to make some short pushes, combined with the fact that the clutch does not always release right away can make it feel like you are wrestling with the mower and while the mower is not super heavy, if you are doing a lot of short pushes such as those under overhanging shrubs, it can tiring to use the mower even if you have the drive off.
Exactly. Your comment sums it up.
Can the mower be used without utilizing the self propelled feature?
Absolutely. Just the push of a button on the control panel. I prefer using it that way when I have a lot is stopping and starting to do.
I have heard some complaints about the Speed IQ self-propelled feature as the mower controls the self-propelled feature. Personally this is not a issue for me at all. I have no trouble controlling the mower even without it adjusting the self-propelled speed on it's own. Plus you can turn the self-propelled feature off and on while the mower is running. ECO Mode is usually enough to cut 90% of my lawn. This mower can be a bit of a power hog unless you are using the Eco Mode feature but for a regular EGO user with other EGO products and batteries that is not really a major concern.
Overall I think this mower is better than what people give it credit for and the monitor screen is brilliant. The only thing that would make that part better is if it told you the time as well which there is certainly enough room on the monitor for. Simple solution, just let us put a double A battery in the next model so a clock could remember the time when there is no EGO Battery in it. I have bad flat feet and the self-propelled feature make me feel like I am walking the mower almost like you walk a dog instead of pushing or without constantly having to push a handle. Having this mower is a great relief to my flat feet.
I agree that the display is great. And this mower is great in straight lines and open areas. I just don't like how it tries to jump out of my hands when I need to stop it. I do find myself using it more with the self-propel off lately.
How does it handle the backwards pull 😅
I ordered the lm2167sp last month it was doa EGO won't back it with the same mower to many issues people are reporting to them, they instead sent me the lm2156sp g3 2 kits with two batteries and charger and get to keep the new 12ah battery as well. I am glad it worked for you but I hope you don't have any issues and I hope you bought it locally I bought mine off of Amazon. Looks like it ran like a champ though. Sucks Ego didn't just replace the one I got with the same one.
But the lm2156sp g3 has the 8 height settings and the phone holder as well to my surprise they did some small upgrades to the mower including the more aggressive wheels and the brighter green highlights. It looks very similar to the new lm2167sp.
Sorry you've had to deal with that. The lm2156sp is a solid mower , though. And you got to keep the 12 AH battery. $600 battery. Not too bad.
Nice video. I guess the lm2156 is what i want. Dont need the iq option.
I think that’s a good choice. 👍🏻
How does it handle the backwards pull 😅I see that it takes a double take on a regular run
Runs better completely on turbo fully minus the blower tip
If you have the self propel on its pretty herky-jerky. I find myself using it more without the self-propel lately.
@@fixitFlipoh so you can switch from auto to manny
Oh yeah. It's super light so you really don't need the self-propel unless going uphill or got some super long grass. Just the push of a button. @@SkiTzO251
@Fix it Flip what about the mohawk. Can you talk more about that. One reason I was thinking about going to the top of the line EGO mower was go avoid that. I get it on my LM2101 and don't recall ever having that problem with gas powered mowers.
I would say possibly a dull blade or low blade speed. But this blade was brand new and it has plenty of blade speed. My guess is I just wasn't overlapping my lines enough.
@@fixitFlip I don't know how much overlapping one needs to do. But this is their top of the line mower, new blade, highest power and torque - and it still has mohawks. I thought upgrading my low end model would fix it. Maybe it's just an inherent flaw with EGO mowers.
@@infotime I hear ya.
When we bought the older Ego we were disappointed that it wasn't self propelled. Then we realized that the mower weighed about as much as an empty baby stroller...and we never missed it. It is almost insulting that something so light would be expected to self propel and we felt silly that we did. It is holdover from heavy gas mowers. I imagine they added it because of that point of sale expectation.
Yes, I rarely use mine unless I am going straight up my big hill in the back. It's very light.
I was really looking forward to the Speed IQ since im coming from the Toro Timemaster with the personal pace system. That system works flawlessly. Unfortunately this is a pass for me.
I hear that.
The high grass i make the mower do wheelies > Blades? The standard Oregon Blades are the best. and cheaper > They out last all the rest ~ The price is right. but i don't like the way it cuts
Yeah I put Oregon gator blades on my Pony. Loved them.
@@fixitFlip Me to👍👍
@@426superbee4 G5 Gator blades for the win.
I have not been able to connect to wifi on the charger. Did you have any luck ?
Sorry, that is one thing I have not tried yet.
Call Ego support. They'll send you out a new one, and you get to keep the one you already have. It's a known issue that they apparently corrected.
@@RADERFPV Thank you for the input! Good to know!
Excellence.
Wow, thank you.
@fixitFlip I am a 64 year old widow. I now have to do my own thing as far as my lawn goes. These instructional contents help more than you can imagine. I can only aspire to have a beautiful lawn. You have skills. Thanks again.
Well, I’m very sorry to hear about your husband but I’m glad that I can be of some assistance. That’s why I started this channel in the first place. If you ever have questions or need some guidance, as far as lawn care or lawnmowers go, please ask. Happy to do my best to help.
Lawn Mowers with production date of 2022 do include 8 heights and holes for the phone holder.
Interesting, thanks for the input.
Dang, 15,000 sq. ft! Impressive!
Yeah, I was impressed.
Would like the EGO to add a dog poop mode for mulching.
That could get messy.
600 usd for a battery is insane. I don’t care how nice these mowers are, they’re just still way too expensive to buy extra stuff for. 600 dollars I can buy a new Honda and be happy for the next 20 years
Agreed that's a lot of money.
I bought a rather cheap Troy-Bilt mower a few years ago; maybe spent $300 or $350. I also pay about $100 for an annual tuneup. And then I spend about another $100 to $120 for gas. Unfortunately, my mower has an issue with constantly stalling out. Today I spent more time trying to get it going than actually mowing. I wanted to wear it out before spending a ton of money on an electric mower, but I’m heading to the hardware store tomorrow to hopefully get one of these EGOs. I think it’s going to cost me less money-and a lot less frustration-over the long haul.
Definitely less frustration (See the 20 Troy-Bilt maintenance videos on my channel). lol@@mitchrodee
@@fixitFlip , I picked up an EGO mower today at Lowe’s. Gave it a quick go when I got it home as my gas mower quit before finishing my mowing yesterday. As much as I am looking forward to not worrying about the maintenance issues I do have my doubts about its ability to finely mulch the leaves in the coming weeks. I guess I’ll just have to work harder at blowing them over to my neighbor’s yard! (Yes, I’ll take a look; I’d like to keep it if I can get it to run again.)
Ha ha! My only experience is with this model. And I can honestly say it mulches awesome on Turbo mode. Leaves and all. Can't speak much for the older models. @@mitchrodee
I just wanted to see ya sweat 😆😆👍👍
Oh, I DID!! lol
Complete waste of money. This lawn mower cost the same price as a gas riding mower.
They're not cheap. But neither are gas riding mowers these days. I bought a Troy-Bilt Pony for $900 about 15 years ago and they go for $2089 at HD right now.
In so high I’ve been watching this video for 3 minutes and don’t know why and how. Don’t have a yard, don’t care for mowers, fuck this algorithm and this video sucks.
Your grass looks very bad.......................
Thank you!