The sad reality is that humans are capable of extreme evil without any supernatural help. Sharon Tate and Nicole Brown were both innocent young women who were brutally murdered in violent ways. Those poor women should be allowed to rest in peace. A movie that honors the memory of such a victim might have value, but The Haunting of Sharon Tate is the worst kind of exploitative trash.
You should tell our mainstream media in Australia. 4/5 sources have censored their comments for >5yrs, and still most people dont seem to think theres a problem with that... 😭
@@Rando240 The way the story was presented in that game fucking sucked though, I mean, who thought it was a good idea to make you hate a character, then immediately make you play as said character for like, 6h!?
@@sluttyMapleSyrup um because it cause you to empathize with someone like in real life? Duh lmao. They do that in pretty much everything. Like in movies you see a typical bad guy and then you find out their motives and backstory.
Quentin Tarantino: reaches out to the sister of the murder victim, invites her on set, agrees to her requests about delaying the film, and tries to continue an ongoing dialogue with her to make sure her late sister is portrayed in a way she finds respectable This guy: writes a letter mansplaining to the sister of a murder victim why her sister's death was hard on HIM, and telling her why she should be okay with this representation
@@DanJackson1977 he claimed that only Lee's family is capable of criticizing his portrayal of Bruce, other than that. But yeah, he acted like an asshole, like more than half of the people in Tarantino films, so no surprise there, specially considering it is set in hollywood.
Once upon a time in Hollywood is a "what if something else happened" film made with the consent of Sharon Tate's sister and husband. The haunting of Sharon Tate is exploitative and a gross concept.
@@ladyjaysindeore1113 me too but she DOES have another great talent to make video essays on her other chanel, they are well thought and articulated. I think thats her real talent, shes amazingly smart.
Why do they insist on using recent tragic events for a story like this? Its not like its something that happened over a century ago like Jack the Ripper, its still a very sensitive subject cause its so recent. Especially considering that there are people still alive related to this situation! Its just disrespectful!
50 years isn't recent though, is it? It's more like "within living memory." Don't get me wrong, it's still a bad ghoulish premise, poorly executed, but Vietnam war movies were being made during and immediately after that conflict, right? September 11th movies got farted out at a crazy rate in the early 00s too. That's just two examples but there are many others- I'm watching Chernobyl at the minute based on stuff that happened 30-odd years ago, is that too soon?
Recent? Really? We had a movie about the World Trade Center in the same decade, that effected thousands of people. This was 50 years ago... You werent even close to born yet.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood seems more like a celebration of Sharon Tate as an actress at the time rather than an exploitation of her tragedy. The ending is so so bittersweet.
Yeah. The movie showed how kind she was. At the ending, I was going to cry bc of how sweet she sounded. P.S, Margot Robbie is a great actress to play Sharon Tate.
Speaking of The Haunting Of Sharon Tate, a RUclipsr by the name of PossessedByHorror was actually blocked by the movie’s official Twitter page for criticizing the film.
Ehh, there were more ratings going in on that movie before it was even released than Infinity War had gotten in almost a year. There was clearly a shit ton of fake reviews so I don't consider these the same at all. Disney/Marvel didn't strike videos for shitting on/negatively reviewing Captain Marvel and there were SO many that did.
@@AmandaTheJedi If you're talking about the CM pre-release survey, those weren't fake reviews. It was a survey asking whether people wanted to see the movie or not. I participated in the survey, but my response and comment were deleted by Rotten Tomatoes along with thousands of others.
Any movie that glorifies the gruesome death of Sharon Tate shouldn’t be watched. Watch Once Upon A Time In Hollywood instead. Best line in that movie was when the police officer asks Cliff Booth what the perpetrators did, and Cliff Booth replies, “What perpetrators? They were just a bunch of dumb hippies.”
For my part, Tarantino's version was a nice take on what could have been in another dimension......but to just profit over bullshit.....there was no "haunting" of Ms. Tate....she was a victim...a tragic victim of a vicious and thoughtless crime.
You can shape history to a crazy extreme when it's old enough for all those involved to have either moved on or (in some cases) to have passed. More modern history like this shouldn't be shaped in such a mocking(ly bad) way. Especially when someone directly affected is openly voicing discomfort, even at the start. This isn't a documentary, this is shaping a murder victim's life in a poorly done and disrespectful way in the eyes of the victim's family.
@@tosinakin2508 agreed. But on one hand it also depends, especially depending on how far back you go and what it is you're trying to do with whatever your movie/book/game. I mean Rome doesn't exist as a country and I didn't even specialize in it as a field of study under History but that weird XBone (I think?) launch title that totally misrepresented Nero as Emperor was irritating enough that I'll take "poorly done Knights if the Round Table fight Werewolves with an implausible/alt history Nikola Tesla in London" (The Order: 1886) game over "Ryse: Son of Rome." And while generally the further you get away from it, or the more muddied the waters are (I believe Jack the Ripper came up in other threads) the more you can "get away with" you can't do that kind of thing to anything recently without being very careful. I was old enough to remember *that shooting* (YT watching) that happened here in the US in a high school and wondering, not too many years later when American Horror Story: Murder House decided to tackle a similar issue how it would be done to not be really insensitive. And to be very fair, I was young, but it changed my whole life since how High Schools operated became different and even State/Junior colleges. But I didn't know/wasn't *actually* personally effected by it, and while I believe that AHS:Murder House handled it well and released around the time when there hadn't been any violent acts that had occurred in the last few years, I can't speak for anyone effected directly. I do know that they did a good job of presenting the issue as "this person was a monster but usually teenaged monsters who aren't whacking cats tend might finally just snap" and I *did* , on a much less violent level, see that kind of thing happen when I was in Teen Court where bullied kids (even from *great* homes) were ignored by our broken schools and finally punched the bullies back and got hauled off to, at best, Teen Court. At worse, actual court, and they might have been physically assaulted for years before finally striking out. I think it's a case by case basis, and a lot of the issues with *this* movie, the "Haunting of Sharon Tate" are the fact that it's behaving like a schlocky slasher horror (I've only seen trailers) and not going off the deep end. What Quentin Tarantino did was the right way to do it. Because I'm not saying that the solution would be to… I don't know… change the entire world so much that it's now an urban fantasy where history can be rewritten. If it's far enough away (like the Ripper Murders) maybe, but still, tact-and the generalized way we might romanticize a time period (like the gangsters of the 1920s or the "Wild West.") But yeah, if someone, *especially* a surviving family member isn't happy/is uncomfortable with a much more respectful version… going full off the rails and just ignoring (forget the letter!) their wishes is a trash move.
3:38 - 4:01 , wow, so the movie is implicitly blaming the victims by suggesting they could have prevented their own murders? "Insulting" is definitely the right word for it.
That’s just sick and wrong. How cruel can you be?!? Good job Tarantino for being so kind and sensitive to her family! I hadn’t heard that, so I’m glad. Ps love your shirt ♥️
I have seen a copy of this movie.. It is not just an exploitation movie of a horrendous murder, it is an incredibly bad movie. ThE script is crap. The acting is crap. The directing is crap. Everything that makes a movie watchable is crap. And I don’t know how this movie got the green light, especially given Sharon Tates family is still alive. It.is.just.crap.
The movie sounded like a Final Destination movie with how you described it. Also hate when companies abuse the copyright claiming service and youtube and other are either unable or unwilling to help
How it affected HIM. It's not like her family was affected. No not at all. It's like that guy who "was so affected by this kids kidnapping and subsequent murder so he made a website to let people *give him money* to place a flower on her grave. He said he was going to give the girls mother the money but he never asked her if he could do it, and I think it was brought onto Dr. Phil and he admitted he was never going to give them the money or even let her know. She found out thru some random person on Facebook.
I think it's sad how complicit RUclips is in this, they know copyright claims are being abused and are doing jack shit about it. It's somehow not illegal to deny people their first ammendment rights if you do it on RUclips. Probably being unnecessarily serious there but this really bums me the f out.
The issue here is that RUclips is a private company. The 1st amendment guarantees your right to free speech, but it doesn't guarantee you a platform, so private companies can censor as much or as little as they want. They see it as safer to censor upon request so they don't get involved in lengthy, expensive lawsuits. It's only the government that doesn't have the right to censor you If I had a private streaming company, for example, I wouldn't allow alt-right people to spout bigotry on my platform. Is that violating their rights? No. It's my private company and they can take their speech elsewhere where it's accepted I do wish that there was more respect of fair use, but RUclips unfortunately doesn't owe its creators anything and they know it
See I can get with the vision a little, the multiverse, never ending choices thing really interests me but doing it with a real person and case just makes my skin crawl it’s almost like dangling something in front of them and snatching it away. Like I’m sure the family and people affected think every day about how they wish things could be different
You make a lot of excellent points. The only thing I want to add is that it's hilarious that he mentions Peggy Sue Got Married as his inspiration for directing these exploitative films when the most notable thing about Peggy Sue is Nicolas Cage's attempts to piss his uncle Francis Ford Coppola off. It's glorious, but it is definitely not "a beautiful story of a woman finding a different destiny" or whatever.
I've had a family member that was tortured then murdered, and a close friend that committed suicide. Both times I played over and over in my head alternate scenarios of their last days alive; coming up with so many ways that it all could have ended differently. I can't emphasize enough how that was NOT therapeutic!
It honestly feels like his letter is saying that this film is his horror fantasy of the events that took place. I mean he literally says he used horror films to cope, so this movie is more about giving life to how he wanted his nightmares to end rather than an actual homage to the family and victims.
As an aspiring filmmaker, he should be grateful that anyone has even seen this. Theres so many movies, good and bad, that never have an audience. As a filmmaker you cant expect everyone to love your movies. You can only hope people will see it and draw their own conclusions.
I don't remember which sketch comedy show it was but there was a sketch where OJ Simpson's defense team was going through time to get horrible criminals off. One was Charles Manson, and their defense was that Sharon Tate was pregnant with the antichrist, and that was why Roman Polanski made Rosemary's Baby. That makes more sense than the premise of this film.
I always respected Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Quentin Tarantino because he got the blessing of her sister and even though it’s a fictionalised ending, it’s a fairytale ending. This movie is just exploitative
I hadn't seen the movie itself, but my mom and I came across it while trying to find a movie to rent. We both knew who Sharon Tate was so we did a double glance and looked at the trailer to see what it was about and both decided against it since it seemed so offensive to us.
Not to mention it sounds like it almost puts the onus on the victims to prevent the murders, which is pretty messed up. Great review (per usual) and so frustrating about the censoring!
It showed when I refreshed the page, but when this video popped up, it is one of the first I think i've seen where there view count/like/dislike button etc wasn't visible
I tried to watch this movie but it was so awful and clearly exploitative it made me feel sick and i turned it off. I had no idea the director wrote to the family, and he kept talking about how Sharon's murder affected HIM to her actual relatives? Yikes. Imagine being that entitled.
Never heard of the movie in any way...but starring Hillary Duff? I didn’t know she was still “acting”....definitely didn’t see her as a current leading actor/ress No offense intended
I heard that the director's next movie about Nicole Brown Simpson was EVEN WORSE. People have said that the film basically says "The b*tch had it coming."
There are so many horrible things that happened in the far past (100+ years ago) that a person could use for a horror movie. They could put in modern time and still say “based on a true story” b/c we all know that doesn’t mean shit. It would still give all the shock that one like this movie would but wouldn’t hurt anyone in the process. Why is that so hard for directors to understand?
I can ironically but confidently say that not only is my next statement true about the movie itself, but just the idea of it's existence as an actual thing that was made into film that my eyes and everyone else's eyes had to witness and endure is plain and simply... extremely wicked... shockingly evil... and INCREDIBLY vile.
This is the worst kind of butthurt you can get. And I feel for Sharon Tate and her family. The plot alone would make a cool horror movie, but the fact that it's based on a real life story just rubs sulfur in the wound.
The plot you described about this film lead me to believe the film makers are trying to rip off 'Final Destination' franchise while slapping Sharon Tate's face on it just to get more $$$, but did horrible job even for a 'Final Destination' rip off.
A bad script and/or director can ruin a movie. I've seen movies starring great actors that turned out to be a bad movie not because of the actors but because of the bad directing/script. People always wanna give all the credit or blame to actors, but they're just a part of the machine.
The brutality of this murder was that Sharon Tate was 8 months pregnant when she and her unborn son were murdered. This is kind of a big deal - they killed both her and her unborn son, who would’ve been easily able to survive had he been, for instance, born early for a different reason, as 8 months is usually easily advanced enough to save the baby. So yeah, the Manson family murdered Sharon and her son in a disgustingly brutal and bloody way. I won’t - yeah I am not going to be able to watch this one. But I do thank you for doing it for us!
If someone killed a family member of mine, then someone offered me the opportunity to not only show how disgusting that person is on the big screen but then get to watch Brad Pitt and his dog beat the shit out of them I’d probably sign off on it too.
I saw this happen to PossessedbyHorror as well, I’m glad people are speaking out. And I subscribed today (after stumbling across you last week) just because of the “my only skill in life is ranting” line.
I subscribed after the James Charles videos, and knowing you love movies too is honestly a happy discovery! You gotta do more videos like this. Consider me a fan, these are getting me through the editing of my new video.
The sad reality is that humans are capable of extreme evil without any supernatural help. Sharon Tate and Nicole Brown were both innocent young women who were brutally murdered in violent ways. Those poor women should be allowed to rest in peace. A movie that honors the memory of such a victim might have value, but The Haunting of Sharon Tate is the worst kind of exploitative trash.
Charles Kline well put.
Once Upon a Time really gave Tate a happy ending she deserved. I loved that subversion so much I cried at the ending.
Charles Kline the director was incredibly distasteful and trashy to her and Nicole Brown Sampson
@@briannalee1998 wait he made a film about Nicole brown Simpson?
@@selty i cried like a baby... it was so sad. It was how it should be... but it wasn't. Tragic. I liked it but I felt ii was appropriete either...
I miss 15 minutes ago when I had no idea this movie existed
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It's like I've just received a message from me from the future. Still going to choose to ignore. Let the video begin!!
Word!
@@Kay2be2mr same
um serious mood
If you can't handle critics, then don't play the game. Censoring them only serves to have people hate it even more, not less.
You should tell our mainstream media in Australia. 4/5 sources have censored their comments for >5yrs, and still most people dont seem to think theres a problem with that... 😭
The Last of Us 2 Naughty Dog
@@NoxForest They didnt deserve the hate.
@@Rando240 The way the story was presented in that game fucking sucked though, I mean, who thought it was a good idea to make you hate a character, then immediately make you play as said character for like, 6h!?
@@sluttyMapleSyrup um because it cause you to empathize with someone like in real life? Duh lmao. They do that in pretty much everything. Like in movies you see a typical bad guy and then you find out their motives and backstory.
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Quentin Tarantino: reaches out to the sister of the murder victim, invites her on set, agrees to her requests about delaying the film, and tries to continue an ongoing dialogue with her to make sure her late sister is portrayed in a way she finds respectable
This guy: writes a letter mansplaining to the sister of a murder victim why her sister's death was hard on HIM, and telling her why she should be okay with this representation
If only he'd been that respectful to Bruce Lee's relatives.
It says something that TARANTINO of all people is more respectful than them
@@DanJackson1977 he claimed that only Lee's family is capable of criticizing his portrayal of Bruce, other than that.
But yeah, he acted like an asshole, like more than half of the people in Tarantino films, so no surprise there, specially considering it is set in hollywood.
@@DanJackson1977 🤣
Yeah, for real, what a prick
Once upon a time in Hollywood is a "what if something else happened" film made with the consent of Sharon Tate's sister and husband.
The haunting of Sharon Tate is exploitative and a gross concept.
A movie that would honor sharon tate would be one that actually talks about her life and her accomplishments with the tragedy not being the main focus
Yeah, like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, a movie that actually celebrates her life and was even praised and approved by her family.
I mean she prolly knew what her husband was doing
@@Nothingtoseehere-eo7zq What do you mean?
"My only talent in life, is ranting"
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Leonardo Reyes literally why I just subscribed
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@@ladyjaysindeore1113 me too but she DOES have another great talent to make video essays on her other chanel, they are well thought and articulated. I think thats her real talent, shes amazingly smart.
I like angry gingers.
I relate to that statement
He is really trying to say to the *_Victim's family_* that it's okay because *_He_* was affected by the case
Imagine being THAT full of yourself
ah, yes. capitalizing off of the tragedy of others. cool. Hollywood at it again.
Yep
Every form of media does it. From Hollywood to your local paper. "If it bleeds, it leads".
Just like Schindler's List.
I don't know if it is so true now, but for a long time people were fascinated with real-life serial killers.
@@SadPuppySoup I'm glad you are better now, for your sake.
I can’t believe they stole the plot of That’s So Raven and added murder.
No, no, That's So Raven clearly used precognition to steal the plot of The Haunting of Sharon Tate, but without the murders.
I'm disappointed I don't get this 😆
Are you talking about that episode where Raven and Chelsea turned into cows?
Why do they insist on using recent tragic events for a story like this? Its not like its something that happened over a century ago like Jack the Ripper, its still a very sensitive subject cause its so recent.
Especially considering that there are people still alive related to this situation! Its just disrespectful!
Money and the human instinct of obtaining a feeling of importance
50 years isn't recent though, is it? It's more like "within living memory." Don't get me wrong, it's still a bad ghoulish premise, poorly executed, but Vietnam war movies were being made during and immediately after that conflict, right? September 11th movies got farted out at a crazy rate in the early 00s too. That's just two examples but there are many others- I'm watching Chernobyl at the minute based on stuff that happened 30-odd years ago, is that too soon?
Recent? Really? We had a movie about the World Trade Center in the same decade, that effected thousands of people. This was 50 years ago... You werent even close to born yet.
Mike N it only affected Americans. Don’t act like it changed the whole world
@@Nathan-hw8yy I'm no expert, but I'm like 80% sure there are thousands of people in America
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood seems more like a celebration of Sharon Tate as an actress at the time rather than an exploitation of her tragedy.
The ending is so so bittersweet.
Yeah. The movie showed how kind she was. At the ending, I was going to cry bc of how sweet she sounded. P.S, Margot Robbie is a great actress to play Sharon Tate.
Speaking of The Haunting Of Sharon Tate, a RUclipsr by the name of PossessedByHorror was actually blocked by the movie’s official Twitter page for criticizing the film.
Yep, I mention her in this video and link to her video talking about her video being blocked
Ehh, there were more ratings going in on that movie before it was even released than Infinity War had gotten in almost a year. There was clearly a shit ton of fake reviews so I don't consider these the same at all. Disney/Marvel didn't strike videos for shitting on/negatively reviewing Captain Marvel and there were SO many that did.
There plenty of reasons to have issues with rotten tomatoes other then the queen bree situation.
@@AmandaTheJedi If you're talking about the CM pre-release survey, those weren't fake reviews. It was a survey asking whether people wanted to see the movie or not. I participated in the survey, but my response and comment were deleted by Rotten Tomatoes along with thousands of others.
@@Hinatachan360 nah, not the survey, the actual reviews/ratings
Any movie that glorifies the gruesome death of Sharon Tate shouldn’t be watched. Watch Once Upon A Time In Hollywood instead. Best line in that movie was when the police officer asks Cliff Booth what the perpetrators did, and Cliff Booth replies, “What perpetrators? They were just a bunch of dumb hippies.”
To be fair, those dumb Hippies were horrifying to me, especialy the Red head chick.
I loved that line.
For my part, Tarantino's version was a nice take on what could have been in another dimension......but to just profit over bullshit.....there was no "haunting" of Ms. Tate....she was a victim...a tragic victim of a vicious and thoughtless crime.
At least his version gave her some level of respect and was actually sort of sweet in a weird way. I can see why her sister would appreciate it.
You can shape history to a crazy extreme when it's old enough for all those involved to have either moved on or (in some cases) to have passed. More modern history like this shouldn't be shaped in such a mocking(ly bad) way. Especially when someone directly affected is openly voicing discomfort, even at the start. This isn't a documentary, this is shaping a murder victim's life in a poorly done and disrespectful way in the eyes of the victim's family.
I agree, but I feel like that should be true for sensitive topics in general, regardless of when they occurred.
@@tosinakin2508 agreed. But on one hand it also depends, especially depending on how far back you go and what it is you're trying to do with whatever your movie/book/game.
I mean Rome doesn't exist as a country and I didn't even specialize in it as a field of study under History but that weird XBone (I think?) launch title that totally misrepresented Nero as Emperor was irritating enough that I'll take "poorly done Knights if the Round Table fight Werewolves with an implausible/alt history Nikola Tesla in London" (The Order: 1886) game over "Ryse: Son of Rome." And while generally the further you get away from it, or the more muddied the waters are (I believe Jack the Ripper came up in other threads) the more you can "get away with" you can't do that kind of thing to anything recently without being very careful.
I was old enough to remember *that shooting* (YT watching) that happened here in the US in a high school and wondering, not too many years later when American Horror Story: Murder House decided to tackle a similar issue how it would be done to not be really insensitive. And to be very fair, I was young, but it changed my whole life since how High Schools operated became different and even State/Junior colleges. But I didn't know/wasn't *actually* personally effected by it, and while I believe that AHS:Murder House handled it well and released around the time when there hadn't been any violent acts that had occurred in the last few years, I can't speak for anyone effected directly. I do know that they did a good job of presenting the issue as "this person was a monster but usually teenaged monsters who aren't whacking cats tend might finally just snap" and I *did* , on a much less violent level, see that kind of thing happen when I was in Teen Court where bullied kids (even from *great* homes) were ignored by our broken schools and finally punched the bullies back and got hauled off to, at best, Teen Court. At worse, actual court, and they might have been physically assaulted for years before finally striking out.
I think it's a case by case basis, and a lot of the issues with *this* movie, the "Haunting of Sharon Tate" are the fact that it's behaving like a schlocky slasher horror (I've only seen trailers) and not going off the deep end. What Quentin Tarantino did was the right way to do it. Because I'm not saying that the solution would be to… I don't know… change the entire world so much that it's now an urban fantasy where history can be rewritten. If it's far enough away (like the Ripper Murders) maybe, but still, tact-and the generalized way we might romanticize a time period (like the gangsters of the 1920s or the "Wild West.")
But yeah, if someone, *especially* a surviving family member isn't happy/is uncomfortable with a much more respectful version… going full off the rails and just ignoring (forget the letter!) their wishes is a trash move.
3:38 - 4:01 , wow, so the movie is implicitly blaming the victims by suggesting they could have prevented their own murders? "Insulting" is definitely the right word for it.
I guess it could work if they showed it as a tragedy they can't avoid. Then it's horrifying.
That didn't happen here
@@rosesweetcharlotte yeh like Visions where what she saw still happens but without the part where she is prepared for it
That’s just sick and wrong. How cruel can you be?!?
Good job Tarantino for being so kind and sensitive to her family! I hadn’t heard that, so I’m glad.
Ps love your shirt ♥️
Amanda read excerpts from Tarantino's letter to the family. He only wrote about HIS feelings.
That was Daniel Farrands' letter, not Tarantino's.
@@barrymichlowitz1071 did you reply to your own comment?
@@Enel97 I think he was saying that he was on about farrands letter so that nobody got confused
From what I understand Lionsgate is notorious for this sort of shenaniganalous behavior. A lot of creators have had problems with them.
Lions Gate has some of the trashiest films. Like, for every 2 good films they release, they have 5 bad ones.
Shenaninganalous?
Shenaniganlous is a fantastic word
@@abbywolffe4114 That word has to be in the English dictionary
I have seen a copy of this movie.. It is not just an exploitation movie of a horrendous murder, it is an incredibly bad movie. ThE script is crap. The acting is crap. The directing is crap. Everything that makes a movie watchable is crap.
And I don’t know how this movie got the green light, especially given Sharon Tates family is still alive.
It.is.just.crap.
Sharon Tate’s family must be disgusted and furious by this complete insult of a movie.
Always be wary if a film has "haunting" in the title. That rarely turns out well.
hope dies The Haunting and the Haunting of Hill House turned out well, and haunt amongst my favorites.
Ooo and haunting in Connecticut too!!
The Haunting is considered by many the bet horror film ever made.
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 It's my favorite!
Let’s not forget “an American haunting”
the directors of Swiped and Haunting of Sharon Tate would get along fine
"I think my only talent in life is ranting" ......I felt that on a spiritual level
The movie sounded like a Final Destination movie with how you described it. Also hate when companies abuse the copyright claiming service and youtube and other are either unable or unwilling to help
"Hey. Sorry about your sister dying... how do y'all like final destination?"
So I’m guessing this movie isn’t what dreams are made of?
A Concept? I see what you did there. 😂😂
More like nightmares. Looks like lionsgate needs a lesson in procedure but I think Ty Beard has a full plate.
😂😂
Hey now.
Hey now
How it affected HIM. It's not like her family was affected. No not at all. It's like that guy who "was so affected by this kids kidnapping and subsequent murder so he made a website to let people *give him money* to place a flower on her grave. He said he was going to give the girls mother the money but he never asked her if he could do it, and I think it was brought onto Dr. Phil and he admitted he was never going to give them the money or even let her know. She found out thru some random person on Facebook.
I think it's sad how complicit RUclips is in this, they know copyright claims are being abused and are doing jack shit about it. It's somehow not illegal to deny people their first ammendment rights if you do it on RUclips. Probably being unnecessarily serious there but this really bums me the f out.
The issue here is that RUclips is a private company. The 1st amendment guarantees your right to free speech, but it doesn't guarantee you a platform, so private companies can censor as much or as little as they want. They see it as safer to censor upon request so they don't get involved in lengthy, expensive lawsuits. It's only the government that doesn't have the right to censor you
If I had a private streaming company, for example, I wouldn't allow alt-right people to spout bigotry on my platform. Is that violating their rights? No. It's my private company and they can take their speech elsewhere where it's accepted
I do wish that there was more respect of fair use, but RUclips unfortunately doesn't owe its creators anything and they know it
10/10 would smash.....
The pause button on a movie for some super interesting discourse with Amanda
10/10 would smash....this director's head in for being such a self-centered, insensitive dickhead.
dear hollywood , just because you demonetize a video wont change peoples opinion on the movie 😤😡🤬😣
...Great, Years later and I'm still misreading this movies title as _"The haunting of Sharon's taint."_
*I thought I had escaped this!*
See I can get with the vision a little, the multiverse, never ending choices thing really interests me but doing it with a real person and case just makes my skin crawl it’s almost like dangling something in front of them and snatching it away. Like I’m sure the family and people affected think every day about how they wish things could be different
You make a lot of excellent points. The only thing I want to add is that it's hilarious that he mentions Peggy Sue Got Married as his inspiration for directing these exploitative films when the most notable thing about Peggy Sue is Nicolas Cage's attempts to piss his uncle Francis Ford Coppola off. It's glorious, but it is definitely not "a beautiful story of a woman finding a different destiny" or whatever.
'I think my only talent in life is...ranting.'
That's a mood.
You know what this movie reminds me of? That Titanic cartoon where fictional characters cause the sinking but everyone escapes alive.
I've had a family member that was tortured then murdered, and a close friend that committed suicide. Both times I played over and over in my head alternate scenarios of their last days alive; coming up with so many ways that it all could have ended differently. I can't emphasize enough how that was NOT therapeutic!
It honestly feels like his letter is saying that this film is his horror fantasy of the events that took place. I mean he literally says he used horror films to cope, so this movie is more about giving life to how he wanted his nightmares to end rather than an actual homage to the family and victims.
My mom saw the actual crime photos from the Manson murders. She never forgot it. She had no kind words when she heard this film was being released.
Honoring her!!?? Riiiight.
Excellent job summing up the situation.
The sequel: people from twin towers changing their fate. They get ability to stop time and run out alive
I feel so bad for how hard i just laughed
As an aspiring filmmaker, he should be grateful that anyone has even seen this. Theres so many movies, good and bad, that never have an audience. As a filmmaker you cant expect everyone to love your movies. You can only hope people will see it and draw their own conclusions.
I mean honestly imagine being do self absorbed that you are telling the family member of a murder victim how much the victim's death affected them.
"A lot of you might not even be watching this video" - recursion depth exceeded
I don't remember which sketch comedy show it was but there was a sketch where OJ Simpson's defense team was going through time to get horrible criminals off. One was Charles Manson, and their defense was that Sharon Tate was pregnant with the antichrist, and that was why Roman Polanski made Rosemary's Baby. That makes more sense than the premise of this film.
I would like to see this movie, actually.
I always respected Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Quentin Tarantino because he got the blessing of her sister and even though it’s a fictionalised ending, it’s a fairytale ending.
This movie is just exploitative
I hadn't seen the movie itself, but my mom and I came across it while trying to find a movie to rent. We both knew who Sharon Tate was so we did a double glance and looked at the trailer to see what it was about and both decided against it since it seemed so offensive to us.
I love your energy, your education on movies, you opinion, and all around great perspective. Glad I found your channel
Not to mention it sounds like it almost puts the onus on the victims to prevent the murders, which is pretty messed up. Great review (per usual) and so frustrating about the censoring!
Lionsgate is notorious for that. Ask cinenasins or cinema snob
"I think my only talent in life is ranting."
I don't think I've ever related to something as much as that statement.
Can there be a reality where you review Booksmart?
Man I LOVE booksmart and really should have done a review but I might have missed the optimal time now but if enough people want it I will :)
I second that! :)
Amanda the Jedi please do it. If you know you know🐼.
It showed when I refreshed the page, but when this video popped up, it is one of the first I think i've seen where there view count/like/dislike button etc wasn't visible
Some people are wasting oxygen, and the director is on that list.
I tried to watch this movie but it was so awful and clearly exploitative it made me feel sick and i turned it off. I had no idea the director wrote to the family, and he kept talking about how Sharon's murder affected HIM to her actual relatives? Yikes. Imagine being that entitled.
Never heard of the movie in any way...but starring Hillary Duff? I didn’t know she was still “acting”....definitely didn’t see her as a current leading actor/ress
No offense intended
She's in a TVLand comedy called Younger and coming back as Lizzie McGuire on Disney+ later this year.
She is more of a comedic actress
I heard that the director's next movie about Nicole Brown Simpson was EVEN WORSE. People have said that the film basically says "The b*tch had it coming."
*"I think my only talent in life is ranting..."*
That's why I'm here. 😉
Dude really watched season 2 of Higurashi When They Cry and said "hmmm"
"almost 300 countries" that's a lot of countries
"A lot of you might not even be watching this video..." LMAO wut?
people put stuff on to listen to in the bakground while they do other things , rather than watching it.
Imagine your entire career gets derailed by cadet kelly, then YEARS later you get a big break in a real movie and it's THIS. Poor Hilary.
Poor Hillary my ass. She’s the executive producer of this piece of garbage.
i'm a year late but I spit out my drink when you mentioned Hillary Duff
6:25 I just woke up my entire neighborhood with my laughter by hearing about this awful cast choice.
I just read the letter he sent to Tate’s sister.
WHAT
THE
LITERAL
FUCK?!?!?!?!
Wait, how is he comparing this to Peggy Sue Got Married? Wtf
There are so many horrible things that happened in the far past (100+ years ago) that a person could use for a horror movie. They could put in modern time and still say “based on a true story” b/c we all know that doesn’t mean shit. It would still give all the shock that one like this movie would but wouldn’t hurt anyone in the process. Why is that so hard for directors to understand?
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is brilliant
I can ironically but confidently say that not only is my next statement true about the movie itself, but just the idea of it's existence as an actual thing that was made into film that my eyes and everyone else's eyes had to witness and endure is plain and simply...
extremely wicked...
shockingly evil...
and INCREDIBLY vile.
I’m sorry but, I saw you in my recommended, and couldn’t help but notice you look like Sissy Spacek in Carrie.
Since that is my favourite adaptation of the book, still, that is high praise indeed imho ...
Can’t wait for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
This is the worst kind of butthurt you can get. And I feel for Sharon Tate and her family. The plot alone would make a cool horror movie, but the fact that it's based on a real life story just rubs sulfur in the wound.
The director should be sued for even making this garbage
I remember Manson et al but I was 14. Tarantino was fucking 6. He doesn't remember shit, and he wasn't affected by it at all.
Dude I loved Shockingly Evil. It did a great job of emphasizing how NORMAL Ted acted when in reality he was a psychopath
I legit feel like this is some messed-up fetish of the director...that many movies of murdered women that aren't docs is baaaaad
Ohhh my gosh his weird explanation letter has typos. Because of course it does
I subscribed when you said your only talent was ranting. 😍
The plot you described about this film lead me to believe the film makers are trying to rip off 'Final Destination' franchise while slapping Sharon Tate's face on it just to get more $$$, but did horrible job even for a 'Final Destination' rip off.
Honestly my only talent is ranting also I’m glad I’m not alone lol. 🧡 your channel and your review
There's 248 countries? Who knew?
"my only talent in life.... is ranting"
Now that's something I can relate to 😂
My mom LOVES Once Upon A Time because of the ending. She was really young when it happened and she was so traumatized by it
Hi Mrs. Amanda, hope you are having a blessed day today.🧡😊🧡
Si!!
A bad script and/or director can ruin a movie. I've seen movies starring great actors that turned out to be a bad movie not because of the actors but because of the bad directing/script. People always wanna give all the credit or blame to actors, but they're just a part of the machine.
“A lot of you might not even be watching this video.” who is the ‘you’ this is addressed to which includes people who aren't watching the video
Lionsgate did the same thing to Angry Joe when he had a negative take on the new Hellboy movie.
The brutality of this murder was that Sharon Tate was 8 months pregnant when she and her unborn son were murdered. This is kind of a big deal - they killed both her and her unborn son, who would’ve been easily able to survive had he been, for instance, born early for a different reason, as 8 months is usually easily advanced enough to save the baby. So yeah, the Manson family murdered Sharon and her son in a disgustingly brutal and bloody way. I won’t - yeah I am not going to be able to watch this one. But I do thank you for doing it for us!
If someone killed a family member of mine, then someone offered me the opportunity to not only show how disgusting that person is on the big screen but then get to watch Brad Pitt and his dog beat the shit out of them I’d probably sign off on it too.
You usually have to wait for this type of stuff. Like this isn’t Jack the Ripper, this happened 50 years ago and people still remember it.
As a born and bred Rhode Islander, WE DO NOT CLAIM THIS MANS
It took a good second to realize what the title was. The revelation hit me like a truck
Raphthefilmmaker and Chris Stuckmann have their bad reviews still posted on RUclips. They weren't blocked...
cioranjungfreud Maybe they were demonitized?
@@c.julietofcampjupiter8557 That makes sense. Thanks!
@@cioranjungfreudthey're probably too big to be targeted
If you look in the comment section of Ralph’s video, he mentions that he was flagged for the video but ultimately it’s still up.
I saw this happen to PossessedbyHorror as well, I’m glad people are speaking out. And I subscribed today (after stumbling across you last week) just because of the “my only skill in life is ranting” line.
It is creepy that these fools who will do anything for a buck but want to censor people's reviews. 😳
Love the Scott Pilgrim shirt!
I subscribed after the James Charles videos, and knowing you love movies too is honestly a happy discovery! You gotta do more videos like this. Consider me a fan, these are getting me through the editing of my new video.
Producers: No YOUR mooie is bad
Are the producers cows?
I mean, yeah, cows for releasing this film.
"A lot of you might not even be watching the video."
*confused oonga boonga*
Putting anything remotely supernatural in a movie about the fucking manson murders is just so much yikes.