Pancake 🥞 welding hoods: uses and benefits

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @RepLicanT00100
    @RepLicanT00100 15 дней назад +1

    4:09 WHAT?!? More brands should work on this problem . That’s brilliant.
    I’m sold , holy heck . This is crazy!!?

  • @greggschultz9256
    @greggschultz9256 Месяц назад +7

    I used aWendy’s , both left and right handed for forty years in the trench. Left when I was on that side, and right when I was on the back side of the pipe. I’m retired now but still they are the only hoods I use when welding whatever.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +3

      Cool to hear that. So many people never experience the vision you have with no backlight, it’s kind of sad. It does make a big difference. Thanks for your 40 years of hard work 👍👍.

  • @cpcoark
    @cpcoark Месяц назад +3

    I've seen these on other welding videos, but never heard a good explanation on the why to use them. Thank you for the clear explanation.

  • @SouthernGround
    @SouthernGround Месяц назад +3

    About the mid 70's we had family friends (brothers) who went to weld the Alaska pipeline both had these helmets but they made theirs and called them "Moon face helmets" they didn't have the side shields. I do remember being told the prime reason for this helmet was to fix the back light problems you mentioned. They are a cool looking helmet maybe one day I might get one, thanks for the review.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      The backlight reduction makes a big difference. You don’t realize how much backlight actually makes it hard to see until you don’t have any. The cheap/fast way is one of the clip on hoods, but pancake/masks are far lighter 😀.

  • @tedbastwock3810
    @tedbastwock3810 24 дня назад

    I seen it on YT, wondered what and why it was, so thanks, Greg, interesting video

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  20 дней назад

      They are definitely one of the weirdest things in welding lol. Comfortable though, less hot, and better vision than a lot of options.

  • @Equiluxe1
    @Equiluxe1 Месяц назад +3

    Having had to weld in some pretty confined spaces there has been occasions when a hood of any description got in the way, I solved this with goggles with a No.10 lens and some tarpaulin attached to form a hood. Also had to learn to weld with either hand as some times confined space wont let you use your master hand, right one in my case so I ended up ambidextrous to a certain extent.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      Definitely the way to go. There are a few companies that make basically a potato sack for your head with goggles, but they charge a ton of money. Making it yourself is the way to go.

  • @rudyrivera7426
    @rudyrivera7426 Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing! 👌👍

  • @zenabu80
    @zenabu80 Месяц назад +3

    I have several different styles of hoods and I use my wendys now than any of them. I'm not a pipeliner but the benefits of the pancake are defiantly with it, in my opinion. You can get them with flip up lense and also a goggle box instead of the balsa wood box.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      A goggle box is probably better option for a lot of people, I have never ran one. The ability to block backlight and fairly small size/light weight makes the pancake far more useful than I think a lot of people realize.

  • @Kineth1
    @Kineth1 Месяц назад +2

    OMFG backlight. I work doing fiber-optic retrofit installations, so I'm required to have a high-vis upper garment. Being particularly heat intolerant, I have opted to wear a high-vis fluorescent t-shirt instead of putting a vest over regular clothes. I was welding up some spool racks after work and WOW my shirt was glowing from the arc and blinding me with the reflection inside of my hood any time I lifted my chin.

    • @YR7A
      @YR7A Месяц назад

      I''ve encountered the same thing with those bright green Tillman FR coats. All over my chin would be sunburned after 10 hours of that 1/16'' metal core wire spray arc.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that, i can see hi-viz could cause a reflection like that . I would have never thought of that until it’s too late lol. The problem is, if you have to wear that high vis that stuff is all highly reflective. Your only hope would be to run a neck sock or a hood bib tucked in to your shirt to block the light. Bottom of the chin/neck burns suck bad, especially if you have facial hair 💀.

  • @johnscheib9077
    @johnscheib9077 Месяц назад +2

    I got a pancake specifically for outdoor welding and confined space welding. It's significantly closer to my head when I have to squeeze inside a baler or other machine to patch it back together. A flip up lens made it much easier to use with glasses, as I can't just slide it down my face

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +2

      Great point on the flip up lens helping out. That would allow you to see what’s going on without moving it. The auto darkening 2x4 lenses are impractical to switch to grind mode vs just flipping up the front. You also brought up a good point I didn’t think of, the distance between your face and the front of the pancake has to be tighter than a normal hood, so it’s easier to get closer to something.

    • @jacobsacks6444
      @jacobsacks6444 27 дней назад

      I work for a construction company and I got mine for outdoor welding and when welding in a bucket the ear shield comes handy

  • @dondotterer24
    @dondotterer24 Месяц назад

    Thanks again Greg.

  • @richarcruz7843
    @richarcruz7843 Месяц назад

    Thank u Greg Outlaw Hoods are pretty nice to a little on th more expensive side but a great hood they also make a great pancake hood 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @Nakadori.qcow2
    @Nakadori.qcow2 Месяц назад

    Hey greg!
    Love your videos.
    I own many hoods. (13 actively)
    Honestly, i have 3 that are some of my favorite.
    My Optrel Panoramaxx CLT (This i use when die welding, when it auto sets the shade for me so i dont have to adjust it as i move through the amperage ranges)
    My sugar-scoop (Mostly due to how reliable it is. You cant break them and thats a big reason most guys use sugar-scoops and pancakes. You put a fixed shade in there and you will NEVER find a more reliable or tough hood. My sugar-scoop has a lot of customizations so that it’s more comfortable, but they’re great hoods once you chop it and get rid of those awful fasteners and headbands.)
    My pancake (as you covered in this video, fits well, and blocks out light.)

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      Glad to hear you like the optrel, I am considering looking at that and the new 3m speed glass to determine if they are worth the money. I have heard a ton of good things about it. You are right on the reliability of the fixed shade, you know it will work when you need it. Water and cold won’t stop it from working, and no batteries to die on you lol.

  • @ericarachel55
    @ericarachel55 Месяц назад +5

    I used to watch another chanel with a pipe welder and I always thought perhaps if you use a conture gauge for wood you could form it on your forhead and transfer it to the box, at least it would get you close

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      That definitely would work. I could have done that to fit mine faster, it takes a while to sand it to get a decent fit.

  • @kfmutrus
    @kfmutrus Месяц назад

    Guess we just need to integrate that balsa box "face adapter" into usual hood and we'll get ultimate no compromise welding helmet 😅 I've seen Gus Fab here on youtube is making pancakes for a king sized visor... I would love to try this style of helmets, but for some reason all cool stuff for welders is on the other side of The Pond 😆

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      I am not sure who designed it or how the first pancake came to be, but I am sure some alcohol, a few cereal boxes, and probably a piece of a wood pallet were used lol.

    • @kfmutrus
      @kfmutrus Месяц назад

      @@makingmistakeswithgreg That’s an excellent idea! I just need to find some alcohol 🙂

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls2005019227 Месяц назад

    First discussion I've seen of a pancake hood, THANKS GREG! You mention it being made in Missouri (which interests me even more, bc I live in MO); but didn't hear the brand or see a link-
    I've considered getting a pancake hood, and not because I'm a pipeliner......but because of the difficulty I've had with normal helmets while laying on a creeper underneath an aluminum boat, attempting to tig weld. I really need a lift, as it's absolutely miserable; especially with the tight fit (with the trailer frame/boat & the helmet; to see what you're doing) & the stupid headband adjuster gets maligned from the creeper headrest......... it's enough to make you [me] want to throw a tantrum!
    Anyways; I've wondered if a pancake hood might work better- 🤷🏼
    Thanks Greg!

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      The pancake will allow you to rest your head without the adjuster knob of normal head gear hitting the creeper. The vision with any surrounding light is far better. I didn’t mention it but there are two other things that pancakes do: 1) your face stays cooler, 2) your lens won’t fog up. They also have a fairly short distance from the lens to your face, so you can get close to what you’re welding in a tight spot. Another limitation with a pancake I think comes from the lens you use, I am sure some of the 2x4 lenses have poor arc pickup and are more likely to flash you than a something with 4 arc sensors.
      That particular hood I bought off amazon, they are between 100-130 for the bare hood and then the lens is extra from any number of companies. I also own a Lincoln Viking “face mask” and that works pretty good for tight spots. But it doesn’t seem to be as good at picking up arcs as my normal Lincoln hood.

  • @TorBoy9
    @TorBoy9 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the more historical info on the pancake hood. I'll look into a welding hoodie, as backlighting does affect my welding hood. This welding hood is not applicable to me but interesting nonetheless.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      The clip on hoods do make a difference, definitely worth trying 😀👍

  • @AWSmith1955
    @AWSmith1955 Месяц назад +1

    I saw that on Austin Ross channel. He's a pipe welder in Texas i think.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      Austin Ross seems like an awesome guy. Before I had a channel (when I had free time lol) I watched his content a ton. I need to catch up 😀.

  • @googlegok9637
    @googlegok9637 Месяц назад

    This must be an American phenomena ? Thank you for enlightening us. Will it fog up ? I see no vents. A cap works for me to black out sun light , but never with the sun in my back. My old welding hood is made of fiberglass and actually lighter than modern plastic.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      They don’t fog up at all really since your nose exhales below the eye box,, which is a benefit. The weird design obviously originated somewhere and probably in the US. It is very common to see them on pipe crews here.

  • @tigxxl
    @tigxxl Месяц назад

    If you grind too much, you can always over-weld with a wooden electrode, and this has never been done before in the series on welding with a stic rood. 🤣🤣🤣 In Poland we often laugh that something can be welded with a wooden or rubber electrode. 😁 Regards

  • @White000Crow
    @White000Crow Месяц назад

    I have one I use for tig welding, no issues.

  • @SuperDd40
    @SuperDd40 Месяц назад +1

    All you need is a dustpan and ducktape. 🤣🤣

  • @elitearbor
    @elitearbor Месяц назад +3

    I always thought the pipeliner hoods were just a style choice/tradition.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      Tradition does play a role no doubt. I will be using the pancake hood and a sugar scoop for a bunch of jobs I am going to be doing, so it will be interesting to see what I think. I have been a modern auto darkening hood user for 10+ years and it will be interesting if I end up switching (doubtful lol).

  • @seannamarie71
    @seannamarie71 Месяц назад

    How do you make a hood to attach to a welding helmet? I weld outside and the glare from behind drives me crazy. Do I just get crafty or is there a specific type of hood?

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      So most of the ones just sort of clip on to a hood. I would suggest something like on this link: www.amazon.com/Headcover-Accessories-Comprehensive-Protection-Compatible/dp/B0D4DCHP3N/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?crid=1FREFHYC1UAPI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xvT4Eq3oz-Nw_aNccJrm2ymyE8xykJqLyXnJMaj6HOLqwE3rBVLg8TpNRKPSVlT9lkvKirLZy0A8pN3IUccbER7uLXEo_MBUhy8Rcjt0Bq3ByU_IxPBmMQc4fRRRfbElmao_8R0CcDbWv-A0iUAD_8ZT9YpCsB_zFvAYXURcIVY2Mjqi99KIUKW8Yto-8q2nyJG_1e6aY0SkeNubavTM1w.ndQHoqe6WvSmykrN3kg-_XkQKhqDkfAWDjB-KJghEAs&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+hood+attachment&qid=1728738795&sprefix=welding+hood+attachment%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-10
      I use one like that at work and it really helps cut down on the glare. It does add weight to the welding hood, but atleast it more or less helps balance out the hood. I keep in on one hood and I have a hood without it. If you need to take it off it’s easy.

  • @TexasNationalist1836
    @TexasNationalist1836 Месяц назад

    Please do a video on the sugar scoop hoods

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      Guess what, in a couple days I will be covering sugar scoops 😀👍. I have never used them much but the new one I bought might change that.

    • @TexasNationalist1836
      @TexasNationalist1836 Месяц назад

      I have a CMR fabrications made in USA eco scoop great for all processes but I gotta get used to the 4 in lenses coming from a hood that was 4x3 in lense

  • @JonDingle
    @JonDingle Месяц назад

    Not something I would buy but they are an interesting thing. I can get burns on top of my head with a standard helmet as it is without looking for more. Welding under vehiclea, equipment and frames can get you into awkward positions that leave you vulnerable to the spatterati.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      No doubt awkward positions can be real fun to deal with. Vehicles are probably the worst. Few people have a lift, jacks don’t get it very high, so you end up eating sparks to get a job done lol.

  • @engjds
    @engjds Месяц назад +1

    Greg, I see a lot of the speedglas helmets, are these an overkill for a hobby welder?

    • @melgross
      @melgross Месяц назад

      Anything over around $350 is overkill. It depends on how much you value your sight, for one. The cheap ones work, but how well? And anything more expensive is really a high end model for heavier duty work for all day use.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      The speedglass series are very well proven, they are probably the most common hoods I see in shops. They generally last forever and work well. I have never owned one but I have used them. They aren’t overkill for the average person. Having a good vision from a reliable hood makes learning easier. I wouldn’t hesitate buying one. I will be doing a review on one when I get done with a couple other hoods 👍

    • @douggolde7582
      @douggolde7582 Месяц назад

      I have a cheap Yeswelder hood. Got me going in the hobby, but not comfortable and let’s sunlight in.

    • @melgross
      @melgross Месяц назад +1

      @@makingmistakeswithgreg an $800 hood? Their less expensive models, but these expensive ones aren’t needed in the home shop.

  • @chuckh.2227
    @chuckh.2227 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Greg
    I'm a You Tube Certified welder but I've never welded pipe of large diameter before
    Why isn't the eye slot darkened?

    • @melgross
      @melgross Месяц назад

      The filter wasn’t installed yet.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад +1

      The eye box doesn’t have a cartridge or lens in it, I didn’t have the cartridge in the mail with enough time for the video. 😀👍

  • @joeg7755
    @joeg7755 Месяц назад

    Hey Greg, it kind looks a little uncomfortable if you wear glasses unless you notch the sides of course.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      You are correct, glasses generally don’t fit. One company makes glasses specifically for them (Tom waters) but that’s still a pretty serious drawback. Atleast cheater lenses still work with them depending on lens.

  • @jackowens9440
    @jackowens9440 Месяц назад

    Hay man can you get a auto darkening shade glass in a #11 i have a #10 for plane hood

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      You can get single shade auto darkening lens in a ton of different shades levels. The crap thing is many of them aren’t the shade they are rated at. Some say shade 11 and are a 12 or shade 10. The consistency on the lenses are all over the map. I will be testing a bunch of 2x4 lenses soon.

  • @robmurphy806
    @robmurphy806 Месяц назад

    All I use are Pancakes..when you start using one you'll never want to back.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      I have used the one in the video a bunch already and I like it a lot. The lack of weight and vision are excellent.

  • @rickfuerst2553
    @rickfuerst2553 Месяц назад

    Not sure how they would work with my prescription glasses.

    • @zenabu80
      @zenabu80 Месяц назад

      I have to take off my safety glasses to put the hood down so probably not to well. You could ask a company like outlaw leather who i think sells pancakes with he goggles instead of the balsa box and see if they know if they work with glasses.

    • @peetky8645
      @peetky8645 Месяц назад

      you can get a prescription lens for your hood.

    • @melgross
      @melgross Месяц назад

      @@peetky8645for these? I do t see how. Prescription lenses are close to your eyes and distance is important. I know as I wore glasses my entire life until cataract surgery. Now, they just for reading.

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      So my understanding is a company called “Tom waters” makes pipeline glasses that fit the eye box on pancakes. I believe that is one of very few glasses that will fit. Thanks for bringing this to everyone’s attention, it is definitely a significant drawback of the pancake.

  • @michaelc9507
    @michaelc9507 Месяц назад +2

    Nice work I knew why they used them it’s not just because them boys like bacon and eggs for breakfast with there pancake hoods 😁

  • @Dibulok
    @Dibulok Месяц назад

    That thing is hilarious 😂 ever heard of 3M speedglass helmets?

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  Месяц назад

      The first time I saw a pancake I thought they were a joke lol. Goofy for sure. As far as seed glass, the next standard style hood I will review will be one of them. They are solid hoods, and reliable.

    • @Dibulok
      @Dibulok Месяц назад

      @@makingmistakeswithgreg you should try out the G5 helmet with an adflow unit. :)

  • @manuelfloressr.9039
    @manuelfloressr.9039 Месяц назад +2

    Your ear may be protected but everything else is going to burn with the sparks. The only benefit of this helmet is the pennies you are going to save by buying this piece of garbage.

  • @RepLicanT00100
    @RepLicanT00100 15 дней назад

    Legit: I have wondered and wanted to know the reasons for these things. Never to be seen here on our shores
    down under 🦘 .
    Also I really want one , just to have it.. hang it on the wall along side all my other
    Helmets, thay sadly gave up the ghosts over time .. but seriously, they look super cool! Hahah .
    Update: definitely a bedroom piece. Keep it pristine just for the laugh 😂

  • @RepLicanT00100
    @RepLicanT00100 15 дней назад

    Legit: I have wondered and wanted to know the reasons for these things. Never to be seen here on our shores
    down under 🦘 .
    Also I really want one , just have .. they look super cool! Hahah .

    • @makingmistakeswithgreg
      @makingmistakeswithgreg  14 дней назад +1

      They are definitely an odd piece of equipment. When you actually use one they are comfortable, light, far cooler in temp, and provide the best vision you will get out doors. The fact the lens doesn’t fog up is nice too. Just watch out for neck burns and hot sparks burning the head lol.