Wealth, Sex Parties, Drugs, & Murder: The Dark Side of Silicon Valley | Cash App Murder Bob Lee
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this episode, we discuss the tragedy surrounding the death of a major tech executive and industry leader, Cashapp Founder, Bob Lee. As the city slept, an untold story was unfolding under the early morning moonlight. It was just the chilling beginning of a plot that would twist and turn with details that nobody could possibly foreshadow. A story that would soon reveal a web of sex, drugs, and a shocking arrest and allegations. The mystery surrounding Bob Lee's life and death was far from over, turning this into a story straight from the darkest of crime novels.
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Paula, the defense attorney was so annoying to listen to. Most defense attorneys in high profile cases come across as condescending but her especially so.
I honestly missed everything she said because I was focused on her earring holes being off. 😂😂
She was so obnoxious to listen to. She'd say something and then refuse to clarify what she meant by anything she said. She sounds like she doesn't even know what she's talking about. I'd be mad if she was my lawyer. 🙄🤦♀️
Yeh she sounded like a child who was caught in a lie or a bluff
She got fired or quit
Agree! I had to fast forward to get past her.
I just saw another interview by this elderly smart mouthed lawyer and she keeps saying how long she’s done this and all her experience. Lady, you can do a job your entire life the wrong way. 😂
ok well she's not "elderly". Far from it. She just looks like a lesbian skeleton.
I hope Bob’s family gets justice. You don’t get to just stab someone and walk away.
That is more common than people think. Especially in cities that coddle criminals. Police need to be out on the street and able to do their jobs. Leadership must have the backs of police. They don't.
@@ganymeade5151 They go full slash and puncture with reckless abandon, just look at the UK.
Well California
You don't but I am surprised the brother killed him in most instances the husband would do it.
I agree with you the lawyer sounds like she done lost her mind and honestly how to accidentally stab someone and 3 times that just sounds crazy
This is a cultural/family thing, Annie.
In a lot of cultures, a family’s reputation means EVERYTHING. I’ve read so many instances of parents
m-rdering their own children or siblings m-rdering the other due to the shame they brought on the family.
That is exactly why this guy k-lled Bob Lee 😞
That’s exactly what I was thinking
I take specific issue with these middle eastern people wanting to live it up in the free world but want to pull the cultural card when free world things happen to them. The family all lawyered up because in the U.S. this is called accessory after the fact. They are all complicit and i hope that Nima doesn't get off on manslaughter.
I agree.
TOTALLY agree !
Spot on!
I've been a paralegal in family law in Silicon Valley for over 30 years. We deal a lot with Southeast Asian divorces etc. Mostly people in Tech. You are never just dealing with, for example, the wife. You're dealing with the whole family. It's unbelievable how many people you have to talk to to get any kind of consensus to go forward with important decisions in the case. A lot of the time an email will be made just for the case and then the whole family both here and in India or Turkey, for example, has input. I finally had to put my foot down and say each family member had to use a different color font. We also had to get signed releases for the various relatives to be on these email containing case info for the person who hired us. When we found out who it was that is believed to have murdered Bob Lee, it made total sense. The thing that makes me super sad, not that anybody deserves to go down who wasn't perpetrator the kind of crimes usually covered, is that he was, by everybody's account, a really nice guy.
This. Cultural.
Southeastern Asian that sucks I thought Americans or European rules that area ,those guys are good to build replicas on any tech lately that is sucks, don't get me wrong I'm not racist not even a white dude here but I know about technology 🙏 have a bless day today 🙏
Nice doesn’t mean good.
Hi Annie, just my input on Nima's weird possessiveness over his sister:
I am Persian and by Nima's name and last name I can tell that he is persian. I hate to contribute to the stereotype but unfortunately many Middle Eastern men, be it uncles, fathers, brothers, husbands or even cousins believe they have a sense of ownership over women. His behavior doesnt surprise me one bit.
I was thinking the same thing about his heritage and feelings about the women in their family, but, if it were about the sister, wouldn't Nima have done something to her for bringing shame to the family?
@@DeniseWilliams-mu7ex not necessarily. Some male family members are just overbearing and controlling like the brother. It doesn't necessarily have to do with religion since many persians aren't religious (not counting the government).
For example, my own father was super controlling and strict when I was growing up. Heaven forbid I had a boyfriend in high school. The behavior is more like dictating and controlling your life. It's a double standard. The things my brother could do I couldn't for example. The men in our culture feel like they own us and what we do in our lives. Not every man is like that but most are.
So right!!!! I absolutely HATE it
Thank you for calling out that lawyer when she tries to blame the victim !!! ❤
*Justices For Bob Lee*
@Ms.Renee'M that's her job
Nothing this lawyer said or did in either interview was bad, wrong, or weird.
@@l.w.paradis2108 um 🙄
@Tammy Boykin Timestamp one of these supposed outrages.
I find it ridiculous that the lawyer is doing all these interviews but saying barely anything.. To also attack a dead man is horrible regardless of his life style choices.. The brother potentially killing him because of what the victim and his sister were doing is weird.. Unless the sister has claimed things have been done non consensually.
She is saying a lot, as far as I am concerned, by NOT saying a lot and some of he wording is why I think Mina is guilty. Not just because we see him. Which in itself makes him guilty.
The footage of Bob trying to get help is so heartbreaking 😢
I know 😢
I bet if they knew he was a Billionaire they would've helped.
@@savannar3632 Heartbeaking is putting it mildly it has to be absolutely devastating to** Bob's Family** and it was captured by surveillance cameras like I couldn't be in the same room with this family knowing what's to be revealed 🙏😇🙏
the SF former fire commissioner that was attacked, it turned out that he was attacked by a man defending himself.
the ex-commissioner's name is Don Carmignani. He got caught doing at least a dozen serial attacks on homeless people he found sleeping rough over the course of months. Several of his attacks were caught on video, quite a few others reported to police, but not caught on film
It seemed like he just decided he'd "clean up the streets" around his home, his mom's home, and anywhere else he walked regularly
He would go out with a mask on and a big can of BEAR MACE - which can kill people - and blast them in their faces, usually while they slept
He would then also rob them, and the ones who had pets, he bear maced their pets too
A lot of outlets with a certain bias reported on Don Carmignani being attacked, but then elected to not clarify any of the really shocking background that quickly came to light
Really sickening stuff... Attacking homeless people for fun. The day he got attacked with the steel bar, he was coming up on a man he'd already attacked twice in the past. The man recognized him, with his distinctive large build, mask, hat, and the giant can of bear spray in his hand.
Rather than get attacked and robbed for a third time, the homeless man flipped the script, and broke Don Carmignani's jaw instead
It upsets me that almost no attention has been given to this, and that I haven't heard a peep about Don Carmignani facing charges for serially strongarm robbing and assaulting homeless people with a potentially deadly weapon
the DA is still looking to charge the man who defended himself against carmignani, saying that he went overboard, or something... like, you're allowed to defend yourself, but he should have stopped at 3 licks, rather than 4... like you wouldnt be completely out of your mind with adrenaline pumping when you;re defending yourself against some giant man whose attacked you and robbed you for no reason at all, multiple times... and the DA is also showing no interest at all, in charging carmignani over his horrible crimes. for real, attacking random homeless people, that's just like preying on children. going after the specific population that has no means of defense. sickening case. carmignani needs to be prosecuted, and the homeless man needs to be left alone
the amount of people who consider the homeless generally dangerous actually blows my mind
Holy shit
@@rhiannonoshea9203 yea... I live in NY, we've got really robust social safety nets here, at least by USA standards... most people here can acquire SOME kind of housing, even if they simply refuse to work, without a recognized disability to receive benefits in account of.
And those who can't, or are working on it, there are shelters... But, I have heard that the men's shelter is, as they are most places, a pretty nasty place. Anything you have is liable to get stolen, even something as worthless as some paperback book you got for free.
People say it's the same atmosphere as prison, as staff don't go on the floor, so the biggest and baddest, or those who have a group, can just kind of dominate whoever and get what they want. A lot of men will elect to stay on the streets, find some abandoned structure to camp in, rather than stay at the shelter
It is a shame that CA gets such a bad rap for "their" homeless problem. Southern California is where homeless people from all over the USA who have to sleep rough tend to gravitate towards, because the climate allows you to remain outdoors year-round, where most other places, you absolutely need some place to go during the winter
But yeah, I am a man and I'm 240 lbs so I don't typically feel much danger out on the street, but I am in an economically blighted area, our major industry here is "human services," i.e. administering the programs and services for disabled folks, recently paroled and released prisoners, homeless, etc...
There are some places where homeless-looking people tend to be at and they panhandle, sure, but I've never been approached aggressively or anything
I've been lightly harassed a handful of times here and there within the city, but never by homeless or anything. It's always been like, slightly too aggressive, young gay dudes, lol
Which I don't expect is necessarily a problem most MEN face anyway... I know women and girls face this kind of thing, everywhere, all the time... I just have an appearance that men who are into men seem to appreciate. And I maybe smile at people too freely, give some the wrong idea
Omg that is horrifying!! Bear mace? I never even knew that was a thing. That is so crazy to do that to innocent people. Wow, I'm kinda lost for words really.....
This is my fave true crime show. Annie, you are "killing" it.
Does anyone think that maybe Nemo and BOB had hooked up in the past and Nemo killed Bob due to jealousy? Maybe Bob was playing with BOTH siblings??
YES! That's _exactly_ what I thought!
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@@heathermastin621 WE what?
Me watching Annie upload every day like- Annie are you okay? Annie are you okay? Are you okay Annie? 😂❤ but seriously you’re incredibly hard working and sincere. So much love to you and your beautiful family. I hope the work ethic is reaping the much deserved rewards!
I couldn’t help but be transported back 40 years when in paramedic training they always wanted us to gently kick “Annie” the CPR dummy and say “Annie, are you okay?” a couple of times before we started treatment. I can’t imagine what students have to go through with the world the way it is now.
She's been hit by a smooth criminal
@@jessicae5653 😂😂😂😂
I had to laugh that Ashley kept saying "How does someone 'accidently stab someone 3 x'?" and the lawyer refusing to answer a legit question.
I'm a native New Yorker so it's not like I'm from the bible belt and all I can is that you could give me all the money in the world and I wouldn't want a life like any of these people. It's an empty existence and things never end well. This is a prime example. This man did not deserve to die but I can't relate to these people who are always thrill-seeking. Call me judgemental but I find it sad. The drugs and jumping from bed to bed are not going to make anyone happy.
He could have been home with his kids.
A fascinating thing happened today in the city by the Bay...attorney Paula Canny made a motion to withdrawal as Momeni's lawyer. The motion was granted. Now who will Momeni retain? The other high profile defense attys are already representing the family. Very interesting but very sad situation.
The lawyer insinuating that bob drugged her is quite the stretch considering she was communicating and spending so much time with him and even apologizing to him for her brothers actions. Is that not defamation?
She quit/ or got fired
Wondering if this was a twisted honor killing? Normally you would hear about the sister being killed in these cases but because Bob was a friend maybe Nima felt dishonored by Bob’s actions 🧐
Absolutely… I think you are completely onto something. This is the first thing I thought of when I listen to Anne explain how confused she is about the , “why” of it all. It’s a kind of honor killing in reverse.
That was my very first thought
Oh, the former Fire Commissioner for SF that was attacked, Don Carmignani... it turns out Carmignani had been going out at night, serially attacking homeless people at random with bear spray (which is potentially fatal for humans), strongarm robbing them of their little cash, ID cards, and other possessions, even attacking their pets, blasting innocent dogs with bear spray, just to terrorize their owners.
A lot of biased outlets covered his attack, but then slept on reporting any of the details that came out about it later.
The man who lumped Carmignani with a steel bar, had been attacked by Carmignani in the past. Carmignani was approaching him, masked up, bear mace in hand, prepared to attack him again, when the homeless man popped up and beaned him.
Carmignani has been hiding, he didn't press charges, because he seems to be terrified of the full truth of all the attacks he perpetrated coming to light.
Just wanted to clarify that one because that case was not at all what it was presented as originally. Sadly, the DA, last I knew, was still keen on charging the homeless man who defended himself against serial attacker Don Carmignani.
i saw that on TikTok, it hurt my heart
I saw info about that and it’s WILD!! That commissioner should be investigated and prosecuted to the highest extent! If it is indeed true
@@perfectlyyoubeauty yeah for real, imagine what other kinds of nonsense he's been pulling throughout his life too? I mean, I doubt law abiding men decide one day when they're 50 to go out and start doing serial crimes... I would bet that he's been engaging in some kind of extreme nastiness at every stage of his life. And, as he did with who he selected as his victims in San Francisco, he calculated to minimize risk... After all, had he not made the mistake of pulling up on the same dude three times, he'd have slipped by unnoticed for this as well - the self-defense attack on Carmignani was the inciting incident that got him caught for what he'd been doing.
And he isn't stupid, he tried to slip into obscurity after being worked over with that crowbar, not wanting to press charges, recognizing that this could be what gets him caught, and wanting to just let sleeping dogs lie in hopes he could drift back into anonymity.
I got to wonder if there weren't any unsolved strings of arsons in any of the areas that Carmignani operated as a Fire Marshall all those years. I doubt he just hates the homeless so specifically that these are the first antisocial acts he's done.
Nah, he's a man who likes to hurt people. Someone with low self-esteem, a man who feels less-than and always has, and the only reprieve he gets from the torture of his mind, is those fleeting moments when he is out there hurting someone, dominating them, getting that feeling of superiority that he NEEDS
Hopefully if someone once noticed anything like that, they speak up now, now that what Carmignani is, is known to all.
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I love that second interview with Ashley Banfield she's amazing. That lawyer he has really thinks her crap don't stink 😂
I was in San Francisco for a company offsite the same week this happened. I hadnt been to the city since pre-covid and to say it has changed for the worst is an understatement. My hotel was in a "good" part of downtown and when I parked in my $300 night hotel garage (which cost an extra $50 per day to do) there was a sign above the space that said *"Please take any valuable belongings with you. There is a 70% chance that your vehicle will be broken into and this hotel is not responsible for any theft that occurs in this parking garage"* walking to the office 2 blocks away every morning and afternoon was horrible. There were two people in sleeping bags right in front of the door of the hotel one morning that you had to step over to get out who truly smelled like the strongest urine you could imagine. There are people smoking crack in the street, you have to watch where you step because there are used needles everywhere. One day two naked men were sitting cross-legged playing pattycake with their hands on the corner. The scariest was on the way back to the hotel at like 6pm and one crazy dude had a makeshift knife and was erracticly walking around swinging it yelling at nobody and everybody. I work in tech and so after the news about Bob's death (not far from where I was staying) I honestly can't see myself going back there anytime soon. The city is destroyed, and it is truly heartbreaking because it was once the most vibrant, beautiful and innovative city ihe world. 😢
This is what biden wants for our whole country
that’s a ridiculous comment
@@happycamper3561😂😂😂
@@happycamper3561ridiculous statement
@@happycamper3561I was thinking the same thing. It's happening in Democratic cities across the country.
Watching he stagger around asking for help is absolutely heartbreaking. I recognize that at 3 am a staggering man on the street would spook most people, but I can’t help but feel he could have been saved. Totally senseless
I could never just drive off!! And for that person to not even call 911??!! Seriously???!!!
He should not fuck that woman.
he's a Man people aren't sympathetic to help a man in trouble it's sad but thats society.
either way it's a tragic loss of life. terrible.
If yall had ever been to the sketchy parts of SF, you'd probably understand more. There's so many people cracked out and f'd up in the tenderloin it's like a zombie hoard, crime is really bad and people pretend to be injured to jump others all the time. I saw someone running by with a pencil/pen/something simular stuck thru their eye once... Idk if I would've stopped either and I'm usually up for helping anyone.
SFran is becoming Detroit@@viceb7
I would be so angry if this woman was my lawyer. She is digging a grave for her client
When I seen the video of her saying "sh*t happens" I didn't know whether to laugh or worry about her.
I would be angry because of her hairline
She shouldn't be talking to ANY press until after the trial. She's pretty much saying he's guilty w/out saying he's guilty.
She is trying to sway the potential jurors. Create doubt ahead of the court dates.
she's f'ing annoying!! grating.
That attorney should have been a politician
I’ll vaguely describe a situation and not elaborate on the things that don’t make sense on purpose and you just need to take my word for it
I've quickly became addicted to your channel! You never disappoint. I love how you share these victims stories with such grace and respect 🥰
I am LOVING your Podcast. I listen at work and watch on RUclips when I am home! Congratulations! Much love, Annie! You’re the best.
I have a ton of theories and I wouldnt be surprised if they were true I dont want to disrespect the victim but I wouldnt be surprised if the victim and alleged perpetrator were involved romantically in the swinger world. My sister was in the lifestyle and it was really complex
I've been waiting for someone to say this...
SF Chronicle reports that Momeni's lawyer dropped him as a client on Tuesday. They earlier reported he was seriously rage-filled, heavy drug user in financial freefall.
OK. The only thing missing here is Momeni had a fling with Bob himself and flew into a rage cuz Bob had a connection w/the sister.
I think there are so many twists in this case. My gut tells me it comes down to money. The brother wanted money .. he was a try hard and lied about going to Berkeley. The whole thing is weird especially the heart gesture in the court room between the brother, his sister and her husband.
The Chronicle reported that he is also accused of 🔪 two teens i 2005 over a 💉 💊 ❄ dispute.
@@ezramillie1345 Yikes!
Love this Annie. Thanks.
From what I’ve seen, that’s Murder, and he is GUILTY. His drug taking is irrelevant. That knife killed him, and the man holding it used it to murder that man.
Yeah, but that blatant evidence doesn’t matter in a lot of cities around our nation… Violent criminals are sent back to the very communities they came from to continue torturing them. Shit hole, democrat, run cities.
Omg! That poor man tried to get help from the people in the area, but NONE of them even attempted to call an ambulance or something! He could have possibly survived….
That’s so disgusting. I understand that it can be scary to see someone who is panicked and in distress, but it’s so disappointing that people just think someone else will do it. You can’t do that. That person is somebody’s child, friend, or loved one. What if it’s your sister or brother who was dead and was trying to find help?
Sadly that is the state San Francisco is in, it has lost the trust as a community because of the out of control crime spree. It’s not a safe place and chances are people are panicking that they could get attacked too. Bob should have been saved but his cry for help was left unanswered because that is how scared people are to do something to help.
Somebody did call. You heard the call on here.
@@graedotI thought that was the 911 dispatcher to police 🤷♀️
And NOBODY'S gonna like to hear this...But, I'm gonna say it! This entire family - Nima, Kahzar, her husband Dino Elyassina etc. are Iranian...I'm not xenophobic but there are huge cultural differences between straight-up, "white" Heinz 57 Americans and say - Asian Americans or Middle-eastern Americans...They definitely have differing views on adultery, honor, brother-sister dynamics etc. Things that may seem 'odd' to - Vanilla, Northern European descended Americans...AND they probably don't like White, Blonde haired, blue eyed dudes coming into the picture and messing with one of their women...offering her substances and maybe doing lewd, adulterous acts with her...And if the family dynamic deems that the brother has to defend his sister's honor - Things like this can happen...I don't care if these thoughts haven't crossed other people's minds - It crosses mine.
I was born, and have lived most of my life about 40 miles North of San Francisco. When I was a teenager and all through my 20s, San Francisco was an amazing city. I've been all over this country, and I always felt that San Francisco was the most beautiful city of all. Seattle was a close 2nd. I went to New York City for the first time in my 20's and thought it was dirty and disgusting. I did not like it at all. In my 30's, I started focusing more on my career and family and didn't go to San Francisco much. I am 47 now, and I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but San Francisco is so dirty and full of homeless people and drugs and human shit on the sidewalks. There are tents everywhere, and people clearly messed up on hard drugs. They are scarry because they will jump out in front of you and sometimes even grab onto you. I went to New York City for the first time since my late 20's last month and it was a beautiful, clean city compared to San Francisco. I didn't see tents all over the sidewalks or human shit or drug paraphernalia. Even with millions more people there, it is so much nicer than San Francisco.
I used to be so proud of San Francisco and felt so lucky to live so close to such an amazing city. It breaks my heart to see how much it has declined. I do believe in having empathy for those less fortunate, but why should that mean letting people camp out and shoot up drugs on the sidewalks? I wish we could just take some land and create a camp with services for the homeless. They don't belong on the streets of our city. It's not an appropriate place to live. It's not safe. It's not sanitary, it's bad for business and not fair to the people who live and work in the city. I just don't understand why we can't clear them out, as long as we give them somewhere safe to go?
Ask Biden.
@@brendagroff8478 you’re misinformed but traitor trump loves the poorly educated.
Could be that people can’t afford the rents. Where are people supposed to go after rent goes from $600 to $2600 in two years. Even here in Hayward rents are high I am scared to death if I ever have to move because I can afford rent, but I wouldn’t be able to qualify the 3x the amount you need to move in. 98% of my money goes to my rent.
I love Sonoma county
I’m also 47 and from the Bay, but the East Bay. I can’t remember the last time I was in SF, but have had no desire to go after hearing such terrible things for so long. Which is sad, because I used to enjoy going out there just to drive around or hit up Amoeba Records. I am going to The Warfield later this month for a show, though. I hate the rude ass, loud ass people on BART (public transit for those who don’t know), so I’ll be driving. Hopefully I make it back alive. 😆
It's so infuriating that no one that saw him didn't call 911!!
Yes!! Even if they thought he was up to something and trying to scam them or something, why not call the police just in case?? Love how the police are like, nope, not our fault or our city's fault, but it kind of is!
There was a 911 call of a woman saying there was a man walking on the streets yelling someone stabbed me. at 17:06 in the video
@@wendyeskelin8765 he phoned 911 himself Wendy. That was dispatch relaying his call to police.(I think)
@@thatcatboab thanks. I totally heard it wrong.
@@wendyeskelin8765 X
San Francisco sadly is running rampant . although it wasn’t connected to this murder , they do need a massive overhaul . It’s going downhill.
It’s a Democrat run city.
A lot of the problem is it has become so expensive. People that used to be able to live there can’t anymore. Affordable housing is almost non existent. And unless you already have wealth, salaries have not increased with the expense of the city. When people are desperate, all bets are off.
His lawyers forehead is a crime in itself 😆
Drinking & drugs never leads to anything good. San Fransisco was the Hippie Mecca of the US including drugs and everything else. That passed and S.F. Became a very desirable area to live and visit. Their sea food was wonderful. Although I have heard everything in S.F. Has considerably changed, even silicone valley which was a place for only the effluent to live and work.
Thank you, thank you, Annie!! You work your tail off for us devoted true crime junkies & I just want u to know how much I appreciate u!! Have a WONDERFUL day! 😊♥️😊
Wow! I’ve been hoping for someone to cover this, and I’m so excited that it’s you, Annie, you just do it so well! Thanks for the hard work you do to get these cases out!,
How old was this woman? Yea, exactly. There comes a time in life when you don't need to defend your sister's honor. She becomes old enough to decide if she has any honor at all or not. I honestly think there was more to it. Perhaps the guy already had ill feelings toward Bob. Be it jealousy or whatever. The sister thing just pushed him over the edge.
Actuallly it was about "San Fransico" People were too afraid to give assistance; this guy was walking around for 10 or 15 minutes maybe more. Someplace where people felt secure; they'd at least have called 911 rather than drive off.
@17:29 Okay so isn't Elon competition, it just seemed like such a creepy I'm sorry something might happen to you statement I mean this is a thought-provoking true crime Channel and I'm just saying if he was a regular person we would all be kind of suspicious of that message, you know if we were true crime sleuthing it. I mean he made it all about himself and talked about all of the violence going on like just seems very suspicious to paint a deflective narcissistic picture! And how many people does Elon know that have been severely assaulted, sounds even more like a red flag just saying LOL
So this Mina"accidentally"carried a knife around, and then " accidentally" stabbed someone three times, give me a break!
exactly! this POS targeted this man out of hatred and jealousy
Oopsies 🙊
Defending his “ sister “ is she not an Adult ,an willing participant ,an sends a text an apology for her brother ! More to it than defending his sister cheating on her husband !! 😢🇬🇧
I believe he's innocent fak it
There are some sick families and the very wealthy are not excluded. I will not say what was going through my mind but the brother seems to be over reacting. When his lawyer referred to middle class families with a picket fence in the Midwest with such a smug distaste I felt a little sympathy for her. There are people who live in flyover country for a reason. Dave Chappell lives in the Midwest for a reason.
This is so wild and I want to know more. ☕️ Bob did NOT deserve to die this way and I pray he gets justice.
If your sister is living the lifestyle maybe take that up with her. You can’t kill everyone that she chooses to be with. She wasn’t a 16 year old girl that was taken advantage of.
I don’t know their religion but it sounds like it was about their family’s reputation. The sister do often “disappears” though. But they can have talked with the family and decide that it’s enough to take care of that person who “destroyed” his sister. Eeeeven if it was her own idea. Sadly.
This. This comment right here says it all 👌🏻
Exactly!!
People just embrace the violence and debauchery. They love it, so why change it ? It is as though they can not wait for next dramatic incident. Whatever happened to simply just being respectful to each other?
With the amount of content she produces she must be an incredibly hard worker.
its amazing!
This is basically her job! So the more content, the more views, the better the paycheck😊 And I'm not gonna complain😁
You have to remember she has a team that researches and stuff. She is a hard worker, but don't be fooled thinking she doesn't have help.
She’s a WARRIOR. We love you ANNIE. Love from 🏴 xxx
She’s something else...BTW you’re a hell of a fighter 🙏
Thank you for covering this! You’re amazing! His attorney Paula is a real POS and I can’t wait to watch her take the L after this trial!!!
I was looking for this comment..what a shady and obnoxious lady! I hate her already!
I could tell her last 2 brain cells were struggling the moment she opened her mouth.
@@_rockseeker Touche
She's so irritated. Such a pleasant lady to be around.
She gets paid no matter what sweetie lol. She has to play her part. It’s not like this is what she actually believes but she does have a job to do. She can’t go out there and be like “yeah my client is guilty!”
As I opened RUclips, Annie came through to help me with my work day! You are killing it with your video uploads. I love the way you explain cases and give your honest opinions.
Every day!
Remember how surprised we were when it came out about Jared from awp and his entire Mormon family hiding what he did to his young relatives with the family basically just steps away like completely crushed up and kept quiet and the girls were ostracized! He flabbergasted so many people when that came out and it's just the wolf in sheep's clothing
The sisters text apparently made it sound like she knew what was going to happen. Pricks🤣 haven't heard that word in ages. Family probably planed this.
I would be so mad at my lawyer for going on tv and talking about my case. The lawyer wants her 15 minutes of fame
Not to be mean. But her hair line is distracting me from what she is saying. Maybe she has alopecia. But it’s distracting.
@@carolinasones1541 😂😂😂
I would as well but i see what she’s trying to do. She’s trying to instill doubt and understanding in people’s mind before the trial so a potential juror might see.
I understand what she's trying to do but she did it poorly 31:18
that would be unethical and grounds for case to be dismissed.
I think you need to look at cultural influence when considering this Brother/Sister dynamic. In some cultures, Women have to obey any male in their family, including their brothers. Tarnishing the family name by having an affair can be avenged through death.
For this defense attorney being so "experienced", she seems to let alone of shit fall out of her mouth. Then when she's called on it, she has that goofy smile and then dramatically refuses to answer. I'm curious to see how she can dig her and her client out of all these clearly damning statements.
And she's just unlike able and bass a boring voice...
She was fired/quit a few days go.
I have never seen a woman with a hairline like the Lawyer Paula whatever...this is a man's hairline !
Not at all. She's good. Maybe you are, like, ignorant?
@@cynthiakluth7748 Camera and lighting. You see it all the time.
She had no real out, she (the lawyer) chose to attack the journalist, very unprofessional in my view.
Brilliant narration of an American tragedy. I lived in San Francisco in 1994 and left part of my heart ❤️ there...Greetings from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪
I came across you a couple years ago. I have always been intrigued by true crime and I had been watching Bailey, Eleanor Neale, Danielle Kristy, Sherrilyn Dale, etc. when I found you. Since then you quickly grew into my absolute fave. Your content, delivery, detailed storytelling, ability to fully capture the attention of your audience and well thought out theories, have placed you in a totally different category than the others. Your drive, passion, and consistency are unmatched. I check daily for new content from you on my drive to work, and somehow, you manage to nearly have something waiting. I don’t know how you do it, but you’re amazing! So thank you. Sincerely, thank you, because you are meant to be doing this full time!
This Annie.
co-sign
Yes she's great. I love how we get a lot of info about the people involved.
OMG this happened to be too LoL accept I started with Kendall Rae 😊
I think the sister was embarrassed she was high and told her brother bob drugged her and that’s why he did it. Hence the reason she lawyered up.
I totally get why he would attack Bob over his sister. Angry abusive controlling men always have issues with someone messing around with their sister. The dude saw it as an insult to his family. He mob style decided to take Bob for a walk and teach him a lesson.
I love how you explain cases. ❤
I hadn't gone deeper into this story. I kinda thought it was a random attack. Thanks for doing the deep dive!
“How can someone walk a football field and not know he’s stabbed?” Adrenaline. We see it all the time. We’ve seen people shot in the hard run a football field before dropping. This happens more often than not. Most people also think people just drop when they are stabbed or shot. Not always the case. Many run off. The defense attorney is disingenuous and disgusting. And to think she was an AD letting people like this off. She has a track record as an AD of getting murderers off.
I feel the same. You think the husband would be the one involved, not the brother .I think he's eather into his own sister or theirs more that meets the eye on this one .
I am so excited that someone is finally covering this! Why are you the only one taking up the challenge?!! I very much appreciate that you jumped in. I assume other channels think there is not enough information but you seem to have found it and done it justice THANK YOU!
The blow would make his heart beat faster, causing him to bleed out quicker. Alcohol also thins the blood. Definitely could of been a factor
Agreed.
Never heard of this case before...will listen for sure
Crime weekly with Derek and Stephanie covered it
Crime Weekly news covered this
I wanted to come back and add….. I find the text from the sister to Bob really important. She obviously wasn’t “ drugged” to the point she couldn’t communicate well. She seemed perfectly fine with Bob. Even her “selfish prick” comment at the end sounds like a joke. It did not ( to me) sound like a woman that had been taken advantage of in any way. Also she said ,” Bob handled her brother class “ so it doesn’t sound like there was any previous violent confrontation.
Hello Anne Elise! I think that ultimately Nima should have addressed the issue of “cheating” with his sister, not confronting Bob with a knife, no??
There is certain cultural where brothers will “defend their sisters/families honor “ if they feel the behavior is wrong. And I don’t know if this is the case here but I certainly hope not because we don’t need or want that here!
Annie ur the best mama!!! I am an xray tech and worked ER for 6 years. Ive seen medical professionals treat people like shit and drag out the care because of suspected drug use or alcohol intox. Its not right but its true. Evaluate every patient as if they are infectious or have HIV, That way when someone does have a pathogen u should be aware of u already have ur routine down because u treat every patient the same. If somebody has shingles u protect ur self. U dont delay care when ur assessing. Its about being consistent and not judgmental. Medical professionals and police are not the judge and jury.
In middle eastern and southeast Asian communities, the men in the family control all the women in the family. They are expected to defend the reputation of the family. In some cultures you see “honor” killings where the woman is killed. In this instance, the brother, who may consider himself the patriarch of the family, is removing the person that he perceives has defiled his sister, who he considers cannot make her own decisions.
that's what I said.. when you know of honour killings and hear how any why they happen - the motive was simple to me.. Here in the UK with big middle eastern and southeast Asian communities you hear of these in the news, sadly the crime is against the woman in the family.
Yeah well new country new rules
@@chocolatefudge5263 - I wasn’t condoning it, but just trying to explain it to the content creator who seemed so mystified by it. It is strange to us, but when you look at other cultures it’s their norm. Women in the US have their own problems, but they’re nothing compared to cultures where they are treated like children or property.
It must be heartbreaking for his family to know he was trying to get help 😭
Police were nowhere to be found. That enables crime. People need to report these things anonymously. Sadly, most people probably thought he was drunk. Some just didn't care. SF was one of the most beautiful and safest cities in the world. Not anymore.
How sweet of you to think I'm at home cleaning 😅😂😫
Me: napping
The siblings appear to be of Iranian descent which could explain Nima’s over protectiveness of his sister though she’s a full grown adult and married. It might be a honour thing which is fairly common in several cultures.
This is so sad. He was so kind to people who knew him. Some of my friends were close with him and have just been devastated over this horrendous and heinous crime. Seeing the footage of him trying to find help and nobody would help him is just heartbreaking. Also, ketamine isnt a huge deal here as people often get IV treatments and the lozenges to take at home.
Yeah, in Australia they do infusions for chronic pain patient's ❤️❤️❤️🌷🌷🌷🙏🙏🙏
Ketamine treatments for what??
@@justsamantha1833 google it
@@justsamantha1833 chronic pain etc 🙏🙏🙏
Ketamine isn't a BIG DEAL😂!!! Perhaps in a proper medical situation it isn't but using it for recreation is a big deal. The drug problem in this country is a big deal! I don't think Bob deserved to die due to his drug use but you hang out with low end individuals and you are going to eventually get low end results. This is common sense. Make better choices of what you feed your mind, body and soul.
I understand why no one helped. I live in SF and it's littered with homeless and crime. Seeing someone staggering and walking around like he did is very common. I have seen people call for help but it turns out they want to rob you. Lately, there have been people stealing your dogs as you walk them. The city isn't safe anymore and every store is closing because of it.
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Flip it around and your daughter, son or someone you know is staggering around needing help... Are you going to still understand why no one helped them??
Thought the same. Soooo many addicts and volatile ppl on the streets in SF. Even stopping to give change feels dangerous these days. I don’t think ppl outside of NorCal can fully comprehend the transformation of the city in the past 5 years.
@@alandrosstettina1843 Most people aren't going to risk their own lives in the middle of the night on the streets of SF.. you can't blame someone for trying to protect themselves.. it's really the problem of the failing city allowing the city to become a shithole that people are too afraid to help someone anymore.
@@alandrosstettina1843 obviously youre not living in SF because every native knows that hanging around after 9pm will get your ass in trouble. Everything is closed after 7pm. Cops are everywhere but they just hang out and do nothing. Looters come to the store everytime you go shopping. Malls are closing up cuz of the crime. Best believe none of my family are out at night in the city.
I've now given it about a year and listening to a lot of people's podcasts on RUclips and yours absolutely sticks out as one of the best Anna uncovered and Rachel Shannon are the other two that really give a better light in picture of the story especially yours and Shannon's you guys lay it out very well with all facts on both sides can't wait for more
What a horrible way to die, stabbed? and so unexpectedly, by someone you barley know, and for no reason at all. A jealous brother??
This defense attorney is something else. What a callous B. I can already tell you, if this goes to a jury trial they will lose. They don't like that kind of stuff.
The family is probably lawyering up for any civil suits. Bobs family could sue for compensation for wrongful death.
Nima Momeni immigrated from Iran with his mother and sister, leaving the father behind. It's not surprising he would become the patriarch of the family, trying to keep his sister in line, and protecting the family name. Never mind that he supposedly has a drug addiction himself, but there are always different standards for males compared to females in their society.
I thought this may have played a role as well.
Great point. Honor killings are something that happen in certain cultures.
I Came here to comment this. This is was I think too!
It’s often the brothers job to watch the sisters so they don’t hurt the family’s reputation. And if they do something wrong, its often the brothers job to fix it too.
But it’s rare that the sister still is alive after something like this..
Absolutely 💯. I was married into an Iranian family for 5 years. It's a completely different culture.
This would explain the sister's marriage, an open marriage. Her brother is her protector and something went down that caused him to be very angry. Bob Lee was with the wrong woman at the wrong time. These parties are sometimes called cuddle parties and you can imagine from there. When you have tons of money boredom is at the top of the list, so they invent their pleasure parties, nothing is held back. SF is an evil town, I used to live up there. Something about that city that is romantic, off the rails, and exciting, so a lot goes on. What gets me is that the brother had a knife and had a planned encounter with Mr. Lee, and this could be an accident? Then, dumped him in the street? Then the whole family gets attorneys? No matter how much money you have or what you do, man's heart is incurably evil and when you mix big money, drugs, open morals, etc. everything goes with little to no accountability.
Many times with open relationships and sex party people you find zero integrity, morals and values. Like murder, drugs and cheating. Absolutely nothing elite about it.
Great exploration into the Bob Lee murder. I've got a couple of thoughts--first, there is a cultural component going on in this case. I have heard that the beautiful sister had a profile on Tinder where she was looking for hook ups, so she had quite a history herself. It is common to have honor killings in Muslim families, so the brother thought that Lee had violated his sister. Since his sister was married, whatever punishment she received would come from her husband, not her brother.
It's important to be clear when one embarks on any kind of relationship, to be clear on cultural or religious attitudes. Many "Western" people are areligious but fail to understand that others are not.
The defense lawyer is enjoying the publicity and her snarky attitude is not going to help her client if she continues on this path. The snide smiles really are counter productive. If she can't show more empathy, she should stay off broadcasts. A no comment, my client is not guilty is all she needs to say to the press. Of course, she is using this case for leverage for future work.
Regard Lee's wealth, I really don't believe his net worth is 10 million dollars. That' s pocket change in the SF Bay area, I live here, for someone this involved in tech, his net is significantly more. Of course, he could have had an expensive divorce but I think its much higher.
San Francisco (silicon valley) where secretive sinners come to live, work and die
Thank you Annie!! You are so beautiful inside and out🙃
After listening to this a second time, I'm wondering if Bob wasn't set up by the sister and Nima. The fact that the family lawyered up, on his arrest, makes me wonder if they all weren't involved and it was a planned hit. This just feels like it was a set up.
My opinion : the defendant will soon open the Pandora’s box , money bitcoin and drugs . Therefore the whole family is protecting themselves .
The saga is dark . Whatever side you might be on , no one should be stabbed like that .
And yes , the wealthy party like this . They all do .
Open....?????? Like to open to the DEVIL 😮.....THRILLLLLL???.?. GET WITH A HIGHER FREQUENCY....MONEY CAN BE EVIL ..THIS SHIT MAKES ME LOVE PRESIDENT TRUMP MO!!!
OMG! What a crock of shit out of that defense attorney’s mouth.
Does anybody think about this mans poor children who have been left without their daddy..
That attorney lady seems extremely abusive. The "hello" comment and just being completely smug , wow, she's a real PoS. I imagine she lies a lot and then gas lights to cover for it. She's one of those degenerate attorneys with zero morals or ethics. It's all about the money.
This story is strange. The entire family lawyering up screams this was a conspiracy, so they were all involved on some level. I understand precautions but still, really bad look. It makes me think it was premeditated the entire time and they used the sister to lure him.
The victim-shaming has to stop! Thank you for calling out that victim-blaming is NEVER ok and not acceptable under any circumstances. Whether or not drugs and alcohol contributed to this or any death is completely irrelevant if someone is murdered without cause.
Nima also seemed to be living beyond his means. A 'fake it till you make it' lifestyle. I wonder if Dino financially supported him directly or via his sister. Divorce could jeopardize that.
Really liked this presentation. I have never heard about this case, I live in Australia so that's probably why. You did this story the utmost non-judgemental portrail whist keeping Bob (the victim) real and someone totally deserved
The Lifestyle is well known here in Silicon Valley. It’s odd how this has become the most important point of this case.
WOW! I had no idea this tragedy had so many twists and turns! Thank you, Annie, I’m beginning to think you haven’t slept in years! 😂
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It's possible that the husband hired the brother to get rid of Bob since he wasn't able to do so himself. Maybe the wife (cheater) played a part in getting him there that night, possibly spoke to her mom about it and that's why everyone lawyered up.
Bob should have hung out with his kids that night. Better choice.
Nima Momeni, his mom & sister arrived to San Francisco from Tehran, Iran in 1999. They had sought asylum in the US to escape Nima's abusive father. He was the 'man of the house' and probably it fell on him to uphold the family honor. If the sister was cheating on her husband, it would be a great dishonor to the family, especially in the Iranian community. Having lived in San Francisco among enclaves of ethnic families, they are closely knit & gossip travels fast. Ideally, the brother should have confronted the sister vs. going after Bob Lee, but that would leave the family vulnerable to shame. The sister should have known better, but she was chasing the thrill of "The Lifestyle". Sadly, Bob Lee paid w/ his life.
Your intro is on repeat… need to edit it out
Yes!
As you may know now, Nema's attorney has quit the case due to a "conflict of interest." She's not saying why.
Interesting
Because she knows her client is guilty. She’s protecting her name and her reputation.
I want to know why PAULA CANNY was "canned?!" Hehe. Someone must know something. Not a good decision on Nina's part. These new lawyers don't seem to care so far. 🤷♀️
Why would a brother become so cloely involved in his sisters affairs?
Culture may explain it. In some of the warm weather cultures revenge killings are common. In Arabia one has honor killings. In Asia there are killings to restore family honor. In the Latin cultures it is common to have the so-called vendetta against another family that has dishonored the family name. In Africa tribal wars have lasted centuries over the deflowering of a young girl by outsiders.
A specific example would be Marlon Brandos children. They were a mix of Anglo-Saxon and native Pacific islander. They were raised by their mother Tarita on Vanuatu, I think. As adults the boy Christian Brando killed his sister's husband; she had been abused by him. Marlon through his full weight into the legal battle and helped his child.
It may be that this vloggers own northwestern European American mentality may prevent her understanding the revenge killing and how a brother would defend his sisters honor even at the expense of his own freedom. No matter this last; he would still be seen as a hero by his own community, or at least empathized with ...
I started following your podcast on Prime but I have to watch YT to see your face 😀 You have grown on me so much and now one of my absolute favorites ❤ Keep glowing!
Idk why but I don’t like just listening to a podcast. With Annie and MrBallen I only watch videos, podcasts just don’t work for me lol
The SanFrancisco DA and DA’s like them should be arrested. The fact that they have decriminalized so many crimes and then the crime rate has sky rocketed is not a coincidence. It’s disgusting that they can get away with this.
Exactly ❤
Add that lawyer and Chris Como
Hear hear! -From a Californian
How can someone be a defence lawyer and also lie through their teeth everyday? Left him standing, clearly not when the video shows him falling right after and before Nima left. The women’s husband looks pissed, as in how could you get me into something like this. Nima is known to have a much bigger knife and that’s exactly why he didn’t use that one. The lawyer knows the police have a lot of investigation and to line their ducks up in a row before talking to the people. It’s a sad to have all that money and never be satisfied in life, when it isn’t everything in life.