Alkatronic + Dosetronic = Automatic Alk Testing! Lazy Reefer's Dream! (135g - 6/7/2020)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Two biggest pains of keeping a reef tank in my book: water test & water change. Today, we will partially eliminate one of the pains with the Alkatronic monitoring the Alkalinity level of the 135g MODE Aquarium, and followed up with dosing from the Dosetronic. At the moment the Alkatronic is not driving the Dosetronic in terms of dosing amount, but once the Alk is sitting at the targeted dKH, I will be flipping the switch so the Alkatronic will have full control over the dosing as well depending on the tank's level. Enjoy the video!
* Alkatronic & Dosetronic are sponsored by Focustronic to use on the 135g build; I promise all opinions are 100% genuine. 🤓
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I have had the alkatronic for two years and would never go with anything else! The customer support is so good and the reagent is so cheap. I love it!
I just went with the trident. It was a great deal and so far I'm very happy with that decision
Thing which is very rarely compared with all these testers is ongoing costs, ease of supply and "lifespan" of supplies. Reagent for example and the KH Director has the ph probe which would need to be replaced after a while. If people have either a Profilux or an Apex the choice between systems is normally obvious for them. Something I didn't see you do is a manual check to compare result with the alkatronic which is something I would recommend people do with any automatic tester. Personally I have the KH director along with the Profilux 4 controller (Apex isn't available in this country but I think I would have gone with GHL anyway). Really impressed with it. The ability to be anywhere and see results via the web and potentially make changes in dosing when away from home could be useful for many (also on apex controller). People should also look at upgrading paths. Who knows, maybe I'll add a calcium reactor in future and the ability to control that may be of importance. I know it's possible for the KH director, not sure about others. Will also be looking at the ION Director when it becomes available and other people have some experience with it. Should be noted that ION director doesn't look as though it will do phosphate.
I must say I have learnt two things from this video. 1. didn't know focustronic was from HK! 2. Knowing cantonese makes watching your videos even funnier especially when you calculated those numbers using the maths chart xD
Auto testing is huge! So exited to see more. Esp phosphate testing
Yes sir! Really, really looking forward to the Phosphate and Nitrate testing!
What is the name of the new Nitrate Phosphate tester?
Love it! Im about to join the focustronic club myself for my new build! I CAN NOT WAIT! Goad to see if so easy to get together 😊😊😊
Aren't you rocking the Profilux? Why not the KH Director + eventual Ion Director?
Nice review Mowki. I currently have the KH Director but I'm considering swapping for this - I'm not enjoying the GHL software experience 😁
That's one hell of a drip loop 🙉
Ok I have about 25 tanks up and running !
Been in the hobby around 25 yrs all fresh water tanks ! I have been thinking about starting
A salt water tank ! You just made me change my mind quick !
Hi, I would like to know if this was sponsored or not.
Yes they were sent to me free of charge (I just paid for shipping + reagent) - sorry if this was not clear! The offer has been on the table for quite awhile and I accepted it when the time frame finally matched up with my tank build. I don't think I sugar-coated anything when talking about sponsored products and my experience with these units so far has lived up to the expectation! 👍
@@InappropriateReefer how much in total?
@@richardwalker4220 , google.
@@richardwalker4220 free
I really want alkatronic. Currently just using a Hannah checker for alk. There is a lot of reason why I want the alkatronic over say the trident. To be honest I don’t need to test calc and mag as often as Neptune forces you to. I like that it’s compatible with apex but the reagent shortage is an issue from what I see and the skewed test results when the reagent is low. I really like how you put the reagent back into the tank and not need a waste collector
I had a clip of breaking down why I went with the Alkatronic vs. the other auto-testers on the market, but I didn't think it would be fair since I have had no personal experience with the other units so it would be mostly speculation. I would love to compare notes with other auto-tester users to get some real life experience! The Trident reagent shortage at the moment is also one of my reasons for going with the Alkatronic, otherwise the Trident also looks to be a very easy to use and capable unit that a lot of people already love!
@@InappropriateReefer Good thing about Trident is that it's linked to the apex, so you have everything showed in one screen, lights, pumps, doser, tests, everything.
Yeah, the reagent is expensive and there is no need to test Ca and Mg twice a day. That's ridiculous. But I do feel the need to test Ca. That said I don't think the precision on Trident for Ca is ideal, it's 15 ppm, ideally should be 5 ppm or better. And I had no issues to find the reagents, I mean to find the small package. I didn't buy it bc I want the 6 months pack which is cheaper and yeah, that one was missing in my lfs.
Trident because I already own the apex system, and I really like how I can control everything through wi fi versus having to be close to use Bluetooth.
FYI you can control the Alkatronic via wifi, setup is done using BT
love my Alkatronic you won't regret having it :) how come your ALK was so low to start?
Interesting. I didn't hear about this master tronic. I'm using the Trident, its good. But I do miss something to test no3 and po4 test a lot!
I am new to automation testing, however for me I will be going with Trident! For 2 main reasons - It tests CA, ALK & MAG compared to just ALK only & they have other equipments which have been running for years (so this ain't their first Rodeo).
Letsssss gooo another vid
Pricing. Cost of disposable supplies?
I’ll be getting the Trident, purely because I’ve already invested in the apex and the other testers aren’t readily available in South Africa.
Alkatronic hooks up to the apex
@@paulharker5052 yes it does but the beauty of the Alkatronic is that it's a standalone unit. Does not rely on anything.
Really nice... I live in wonder :)
I’m about to jump into the marine tank hobby & now you have the larger tank, I was wonderIng if you wish you had just done the bigger tank first?
Buy the biggest tank you can afford IF you are going to stay in the hobby for a while.
I was leaning on getting on but after covid hit my pocket book its not looking like its happening unless I get one really cheap .
Reefbot send him 1 to try and blow the Alkatronic out the water. He has a ton of viewers and I can guarantee you will get a ton of sales.
I thought he has the Reefbot
I wonder what is eating up your Alkalinity? Maybe it is your salt?
Uh, 1 surge protector. :( All that money in electronics. I had to lear the har way. In fact, just this last storm here in York Pa our home lost a TV, Fridge, and Dryer due to a surge. The good news is the 125 reef was safe as I spent 20.00 x's 3 on surge protectors for it.
Leon is freaking adorable 💙
To bad it’s impossible to get this I can never find them so I went with the KH director and it’s great
what skimmer are you using?
You should always be hooked up to GFCI. It is one more layer of protection. Losing some live stock is better then losing you're house
just use a Hanna Checker every other day and save yourself a mint! but will get a trident when we get in the uk
Hanna reagent has not been the most reliable in recent history (at least that I have experienced). Also good luck on the Trident in the UK. You guys have been waiting for the EB832 for ever it seems.
Just ordered the ghl khd,I wanted the alkatronic but just costs to much
Would you recommend this for an AIO?
yo yo yooo
ATI essentials is very good. Very similar to Triton.
sure hope you calibrated everything..
#reefsquad
which brands did you NOT agree to sponsor? Jebao products? I can see the brand wanting sponsorship for inappropriate reefing. LOL.
Hey man I’ve just began making videos about marine animals I got 2 salt water fish tanks
Dammit another item I didn't know I needed 🤦🏽♂️Haha I neeeeddd thhiisssss
I got the post notis 43 sec
Reeferonic
I know you have some Velcro
Omg did that rat nest of cables !!!
Looks good mate have you checked out my new channel. Look forward to meeting you at one of the shows sometime.
I dont want to be rude but you set up a Brand New tank. And now you dump the waste water with All the chemicals in that tank. Especially if you are testing 1 times a hour
Mann.....all this electronic to keep fish ....
Totally not necessary unless we want to - check out my Mangrove tank for contrast! Just have light, powerhead, and heater. (ok, and an Auto-top off unit cause i'm lazy =b )
Trident, no complaints but talking to Devin, I meant get the alkatronic and wait for the masteronic.
Welcome to the club!! You will love it
When I first saw the thumb nail I asked myself....did Devon finally give up the one product he said he couldn't go without 🤔 I'd definitely like to automate my reef tank, the hobby is finally leaning in a direction where the products are reliable enough, but they still have a pretty big price tag. I'm still under 2 years in this hobby, so I've spent a lot more of my money on coral and not as much in gear. However started to understand that good gear, is what keeps your coral alive vs cheap gear that can fry/destroy your tank. Thanks for the video, all you need now is Telegram to set up some solar panels!
@@MHoran86Deven still has his.. infact hes picked up a second! HAHA. Its a hard bullet to bite but once you have it you ask your self how you managed with out it :P
Trident, been 6 months haven't had any problems.
Good to hear. Some complain the magnesium test is off.. You experienced this?? Also, As he stated, he went with this because of products coming out like ther Mastertronic ..
InappropriateBaby making a cameo
Am I the only one worried that the liquid measurements were weighed out? Volume remains the same regardless of liquid but weight changes drastically depending on the difference of liquids. Example weight of freshwater and saltwater.
I was thinking the same thing. I think he botched it by going with weight. If they say 1:4 and not clarify volume or mass, it has to be volume.
@@TattooedDancer91 I've weighed mine for years without issue
Mastertronic?! If I were to get an autotester I would definitely go with this one. The fact that you can put the waste water back into your tank and not have to worry about salinity is huge! Some of the other testers take quite a bit of water to test your parameters. To be able to monitor nitrate and phosphate would be amazing! Those color test are so difficult to distinguish (especially phosphate) between the subtle shades. Great video! Cant wait to see how it works out for you.
Oh NOOOOOOO. Bud Houston has the Reefbot and it tests (EVERYTHING) the same price. Not to late to return the Alcatronic
Hope its not too late for Bud to return the reefbot!! Dude, he got this for free, he isn't returning it....
Reefbot has draw backs also. Test kit reagents must be liquid . And with kits that use multiple, then you're using multiple slots which limit the number of elements that can be tested. Also, waste water cannot be put back into tank so you have to watch salinity more.
Hopefully they move out of HK or find other overseas distributors caaaauuussse its gonna get a lot harder to get those in the future with all the sanctions and decoupling that's going on with the US/CCP. If they leave HK ill definitely be interested in both of those, if they stay based in HK I will look for other options cause I'm not supporting the CCP.
Just be aware that all these auto testers have their own quirks and issues over time. I have both the Reefbot (NO3, PO4, Mg, Alk-Backup)) and KH Guardian (Alkalinity)and they are dependent on the accuracy of the pumps (which do wear) and the pH Probe accuracy (needs calibration). I would always have several different tests to verify that the numbers make sense. Since i still have Hanna checkers and manual test kits I keep double checking every so often to build confidence.
You should drill or cut a row of holes In your shelf underneath the dosetronic So the unit can face straight and look presentable, as well as the tubing will Go seamlessly underneath and into the tank. :)
I used 3m velcro strips to mount controllers and what not while cable management. very strong and you can unvelcro and move things if you need to!
Hi how do I set what time I want the alkatronic to test? Thanks
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that thing is MASSIVE
U dont worry about the reagent going back into the tank?
Can you tell me the dimensions of your skimmer compartment
Your son it the cuties ever ,he's the new aquarist in the house .🍼🎉🐟
Can you rereview at some point?
Great video as always, very informational.
Any ideas as to why your alk is so low?
def going to have to get one of these for my 80g
Nice stuff, stable KH is so desireable.... Now you can have sps no problem ;P
It'd definitely help in my case! Alk-swings were the #1 cause of my issues in my 45g tank! I'm just waiting for the lights to arrive now to dive right into corals. 🤓
@@InappropriateReefer Wow, thought you had some nice lights laying around tho :O
@@MrMushroomish I have my old Radion G3 on the shelf, just not sure if I want to drill the ceiling to mount it and the G4 Pro that is on the tank when I know new lights will be coming [hopefully] soon...!
Merci pour ta vidéo !!! 👍👍👍
I was on the fence and since you and Devin chose Alkatronic then I'll probably choose it too. Its between it and the Trident.
I'm waiting for the Seneye Coral which should be amazing and heaps cheaper than the rest. It's the only one I can really afford (and I think it will be affordable for 90% of reefers and be a game changer.
But...
I'm considering the GHL if I can save the funds - I think GHL is reliable and I think it's the cheapest... here's why.
1 - It's standalone (and cheaper than the Alkatronic)
2 - It has 4 dosers but only uses 3 - so I can dose Alk with the 4th one.
3 - I will make All-4-Reef - so I would only be dosing a 1 part - so I save money on buying a 4 / 5 head doser
4 - I think GHL makes the most solid hardware in this space.
(I am only concerned about the difficulty in setting it up).
If I do the maths I guess the Seneye with the Webserver as I would get leak dectors too) will be about $650.
The GHL Director is $850. So if I want to go all in with the Seneye Webserver and get a Ecotech Doser I'm paying the same and I don't get the auto dosing.
The Seneye though will have a PAR meter and do temp, pH and water level - all things I need. The Seneye really is a no brainer particularly if you just want to monitor and then adjust your dosing accordingly.
Be careful of buying something SOLELY because it is considered cheaper. Yes the Alkatronic reagent long-term cost isn't much at all, but if I'm not mistaken, you will have additional expenses with the GHL unit that you may not be aware of, like needing to also buy their doser as well.
@@mitchelhayes8158 Thank mate - Well with the GHL there are probes and reagent (and more expensive than the Alkatronic). But with the GHL it comes with the doser and uses 3 of the 4. I dose 1 part so I don't need to buy another doser (with the Alkatronic I would). All 3 are solid options really and most people dose at least 3 part I would say. Thing about the Alkatronic is that CoralVue sells it (and they are quality) and Reefdudes tested multiple versions and chooses this one. Issue with the Seneye with a Versa is that Seneye won't control dosing and Versa you cannot control remotely. Positive with the Seneye combo is it's probably much cheaper to replace a component of the system should 1 break.
Great video!! I will be getting the Alkatronic as well. After reading endless reviews and seeing who has pushed the Alkatronic this is the one for me!
No auto tester yet. Looking into getting one. Still doing my research
If I can save you the effort you should really just get the Alkatronic. I have had mine since they were first released and the unit just works. Reagent cost is soo minimal it's not even fair to the other testers on the market. Support is decent and the unit is so easy to maintain. I have 2 of them and compared to the Trident/KH Guardian Pro, I'd choose the Alkatronic every time hands down EVEN with the Trident also testing Cal/Mag. I PAID for mine so no sponsorship from me telling you this.
I have had both the Trident/KH Guardian Pro so this isn't something that I am just recommending because it the POPULAR opinion. It's just better. Trident felt like a cheap kiddy toy comparitive to the KH GUardian/Alkatronic. Proprietary reagents for the Trident also was a concern. Not only that with the Trident, but also Trident doesn't work if/when your Apex decides to take a nose-dive.
Mitchel Hayes thank you for the info. Definitely top of the list now
Looks like your completely domesticated now man. You could change your channel to "completely appropriate reefer" ... lol
I am absolutley disagree with you ;-p
As a German I can only go with GHL.
GHL have very good customer service, high quality and a lot of advantages...
With the IOND, KHD and two Doser with 4 pumps, you can control all important parameters and also dose a two part solution.
I only have to be patient with the new IOND, but in a couple of month my system will be complete automated.
Anyway competition is good for the buisness and you will enjoy the Alkatronic for sure.
Reefbot for a couple of months. So far so good. Love being able to schedule tests and to just do a test any time I feel. How long does it take to complete a test?
how do you like now that youve had it for a while? (reefbot)
9:28 bro your wife let's you borrow her shorts. ??
If your hardness is too low, what do you add?
Love the vids keep up the good work