@@zelphus6036 nah they use perfect relics and like 3 harmony char. like how is an avg. f2p getting all harmony units ? only way i can think is skipping all dps but then there's no point
@@zelphus6036 Unrealistic doesn't mean impossible, they're saying that 99% of the player base aren't gonna achieve those kind of stats that those showcases have.
@@connoisseurofblasphemy who said that they try to reflect the average f2p experience? If you do 0 cycles vidos it's to show off, period, nothing bad about it tho.
Jiaoqiu is prolly one of few units thats better in field compared to the calculations and people saying hes a sidegrade is so wrong, hes literally one of the biggest boost for acheron
Very good for f2p teams, although the more investment Acheron has the less significance he has but he’s BiS for her in PF. Impressive to rival an e2 Acheron e0 Sparkle at both e0 with Robin.
I just saw a run using robin instead of pela and they managed to 1 cycle and its an e0s1 acheron. Its insane how jiaoqiu allows you to use a harmony Edit: it's 1 cycle not 0, my vid quality was on 360😭 but still amazing tho
@@gepardlandau04 gacha players having to justify their pulls by shitting on other characters is the real joke here. Not even a pvp mode to speak and yet people are still as toxic as it gets to other people{s favorite chars
@@RayRMT It's such a common thing nowadays since Robin came out, she has a lot of simps, that doesn't really excuse people for what they do, they just can't mind their own bussiness but they will take every chance to shit talk people that don't play the game like they want them to
Could you do a showcase with Yunli and Jiaoqiu? Really curious on how that team performs since JQ provides ult dmg buffs and that’s a huge chunk of Yunli’s damage
Wow thanks for making fun of the fact that I'm about to go bankrupt cuz both Jiaoqiu AND Sparkle are must pulls for me... Here I was hoping Acheron's ceiling wouldn't be that much higher than SW but calcs are showing he's a whole 50% increase from SW and I don't even have SW 💀💀💀
Not here but incoming cope doomposts about how Jiaoqiu is NOT necessary and an ez skip. He's gonna light the Acheron subreddit's tits up like a volcano!! I can't pull him because im poor lol
@@Sampoforeverrrrwhen you have Firefly, Jingliu, Acheron, AND DHIL im pretty sure Gally becomes a super contested unit A Gallagher “sidegrade” doesn’t sound so bad now does it 🤨
@@swoon_tv I was thinking of Lingsha for that reason specifically, with Jiaoqiu it's better to use gallagher as your Acheron sustain but that leaves firefly side without options
@@aba7968yeah it’s really pathetic that people can’t comprehend the depth of this game and how different characters accounts and pulls will dictate the pull value of units differently from others. But this is also the community who can’t read correctly so 🤷♂️
Hi Zetto Genshin! This was an awesome showcase, could we gain permission to use this in a future video? We will give you credits and a link to your channel under the video, Cheers!
Hii, good morning! I have jiaoqiu, aventurine and ruan mei, i want black swan, but i dont have/want kafka. Will be too bad if i get only black swan? Can i use her on the endgames ?
Guys remember, there will be definitely more characters who will benefit of debuffs like acheron. Im waiting for a character like thag as im not a fan of acheron (i dont like her character that much)
May I ask why you didn't ult here at 5:30 ? It would've saved time by maintaining the 5 ashen roast stack to argenti since it doesn't reset between waves. Or is it to reduce argenti toughness bar?
@@ZettoGenshin yeah imo that's when make jiaoqiu so powerful since he doesn't have the problem of needing to reapply debuffs on waves of enemy base on his A6 trace(even between boss's phases). I'm looking forward on seeing more of jiaoqiu from your channel😆
Honestly doesn't matter, just pull the one u like more. My account is full of just men (the only one who isn't is RM) and I still am able to do everything full stars
@@trevorle1657 yes, since enemies are already receiving a debuff from jiaoqiu, trend doesn't give Acheron another stack. Imo this is a good thing bcs trend isn't a good lightcone with it's bad stats and rng-ish passive. with jiaoqiu, you can opt for a better LC on your preservation
I tried playing with fu Xuan and trend as sustain on Argenti boss. Ult just keep on coming lol never tried it on the 1st phase tho. I used Avent on the 1st phase
@imanash8326 You need a higher crit rate bro. My Acheron is 55/203 outside of battle. But in battle, 67 (Because of Izumo) 79 (Because of Fu Xuan) 97 (From E1) 101 (From Dead Waters set). Most of the time, she could hit 700 - 800k on the Trio puppets (2 Nihility, E6 Pela S5 Pearl. E1 Gui S5 Tutorial).
@imanash8326 A 100% Crit Rate without E1 is possible bro, but you have to trade that with your CDM, unless you somehow got a godly Crit/CDM of a relic set.
exactly. i always run out of sp with her because if you already have the debuff from the pearls lc on the enemy you have to skill with her which is most of the time since ulting before doing a basic already gives the enemy the ensnared debuff from the lc lol she's not the best acheron support people claim to be.
Overall i'd say sparkle cause she fits in almost any team comp and has huge cd buff, however if u wanna pull for him and especially if you have a dot team, acheron team or ult relying dps like argenti or yunli go for him (you can still pull him if you don't have these if you want dw).
Sparkle can be used in many teams, she boosts lot of damage. I got gaca adiction and accidentally pull jiaoqiu and his lc while i dont have acheron and currently save for ff rerun😢😢😢 i r3gret it
i like how bro shows realistic showcase unlike no sustain 999 speed 0 cycle showcase
There's nothing unrealistic about those showcases unless its a private server
@@zelphus6036 nah they use perfect relics and like 3 harmony char. like how is an avg. f2p getting all harmony units ? only way i can think is skipping all dps but then there's no point
IKR!!!
@@zelphus6036 Unrealistic doesn't mean impossible, they're saying that 99% of the player base aren't gonna achieve those kind of stats that those showcases have.
@@connoisseurofblasphemy who said that they try to reflect the average f2p experience? If you do 0 cycles vidos it's to show off, period, nothing bad about it tho.
Jiaoqiu is prolly one of few units thats better in field compared to the calculations and people saying hes a sidegrade is so wrong, hes literally one of the biggest boost for acheron
Hes the best acheron support fulls top but i think ppl were talking abt teams without her like dot where robin and rn are still ahead in
@@jaceee4154 Except both of those units are better in many team hence he is the replacement for them in DoT.
@@jaceee4154 (Also tbh, in FuA I think he's more of a Topaz replacement than a Robin replacement)
LITERALLY he is so good. After I got him, MoC and PF have been convenient and managed to complete full star (haven't tried AS).
Very good for f2p teams, although the more investment Acheron has the less significance he has but he’s BiS for her in PF. Impressive to rival an e2 Acheron e0 Sparkle at both e0 with Robin.
1:57 definitely should've used Acherons ult before this guys turn cause she could break the other 2 guys with her ult they get broken
inazuma battle theme.... such nostalgic feeling.....
I just saw a run using robin instead of pela and they managed to 1 cycle and its an e0s1 acheron. Its insane how jiaoqiu allows you to use a harmony
Edit: it's 1 cycle not 0, my vid quality was on 360😭 but still amazing tho
robin proving herself to be the better harmony day by day than fraudmei is making me giggle
@@gepardlandau04 gacha players having to justify their pulls by shitting on other characters is the real joke here. Not even a pvp mode to speak and yet people are still as toxic as it gets to other people{s favorite chars
@@RayRMT It's such a common thing nowadays since Robin came out, she has a lot of simps, that doesn't really excuse people for what they do, they just can't mind their own bussiness but they will take every chance to shit talk people that don't play the game like they want them to
@@gepardlandau04 and this is why no one loves you
@@swoon_tv don’t worry, fraudmei doesn’t love you either
I love how it's in a inazuma genshin music theme😂
Could you do a showcase with Yunli and Jiaoqiu? Really curious on how that team performs since JQ provides ult dmg buffs and that’s a huge chunk of Yunli’s damage
Yes its gonna work too with yunli. U can read his traces.
@@lily-eh1eiI’m mostly wondering if it’d be better to replace Tingyun with Jiaoqiu for Yunli - Robin - Jiaoqiu - HuoHuo
@@Jonathankiller100 i think yunli needs tingyun ultimate to fill her energy so she can trigger ult more often
@@Jonathankiller100 jiaoqiu works best with aceron, if u have her than pull this fox.
Can you try him with Dr Ratio
Sadly I didnt build ratio on my 1st acc
Jiaoqiu doomposter went silent after all the showcases drop 😂
Wow thanks for making fun of the fact that I'm about to go bankrupt cuz both Jiaoqiu AND Sparkle are must pulls for me...
Here I was hoping Acheron's ceiling wouldn't be that much higher than SW but calcs are showing he's a whole 50% increase from SW and I don't even have SW 💀💀💀
@@swoon_tvjust pull him man you not gonna regret it, pull him pull him pull him pull him pull him pull him pull him 😂😂😂
@@megugaoDO YOU WANT ME TO GO BANKRUPT?? 😭😭😭
Edit: I went bankrupt
Haaa Inazuma battle sounds ❤
Not here but incoming cope doomposts about how Jiaoqiu is NOT necessary and an ez skip. He's gonna light the Acheron subreddit's tits up like a volcano!! I can't pull him because im poor lol
may i even say the meta is going to change after next patch. Just save for lingsha and wait.
@@minhtinh1211 lingsha? that gallagher sidegrade? nah.
@@Sampoforeverrrrwhen you have Firefly, Jingliu, Acheron, AND DHIL im pretty sure Gally becomes a super contested unit
A Gallagher “sidegrade” doesn’t sound so bad now does it 🤨
@@swoon_tv I was thinking of Lingsha for that reason specifically, with Jiaoqiu it's better to use gallagher as your Acheron sustain but that leaves firefly side without options
@@aba7968yeah it’s really pathetic that people can’t comprehend the depth of this game and how different characters accounts and pulls will dictate the pull value of units differently from others.
But this is also the community who can’t read correctly so 🤷♂️
I really cant wait for his rerun cause I'm out of stellar jade😢
Pull him in one pull trust
just get lucky bro
I GOT HIM ON ACCIDENT😭 5 STAR FOXIAN CHARACTERS ALWAYS COME TO ME BY MISTAKE SMH🤦🏾♂️@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo2795
@@Saberdud I lost the 50/50 and got it by shooting 1 on 1 after that
I wonder what the fire Tingyun will be like of the path of Nihility 🤔
(These are just rumors her path may change)
Hi Zetto Genshin! This was an awesome showcase, could we gain permission to use this in a future video? We will give you credits and a link to your channel under the video, Cheers!
Sure, no problem
Jiaoqiu is so good not because of the Numbers but because he just makes it so much Easier to get Acheron online.
I will pull him on his rerun, now I am saving everything for sunday
Hii, good morning! I have jiaoqiu, aventurine and ruan mei, i want black swan, but i dont have/want kafka. Will be too bad if i get only black swan? Can i use her on the endgames ?
Guys remember, there will be definitely more characters who will benefit of debuffs like acheron. Im waiting for a character like thag as im not a fan of acheron (i dont like her character that much)
I enjoyed playing acheron so much more more more. Thanks to my boyfie jiaoqiu. Ult and damage is so consistent damnn
Hey about the LC is necessary is big upgrade or just get him?
Thank god they didn’t nerf him even further on release
Will you try him with kafka instead of black swan? I can’t pull for him right now but I’m kinda curious
Maybe yeah, later
@@ZettoGenshinbang berarti sama ruan mei aja. Mau nanya itu bs bagus pake glammoth? Klo ehr sudah di atas 120
@@lily-eh1ei iya bgus, spdnya minimal 135
@@ZettoGenshin tadi gegara liat kontenmu langsung gatel ngepull jiaoqiu. Semoga worth buat dot tim.
May I ask why you didn't ult here at 5:30 ? It would've saved time by maintaining the 5 ashen roast stack to argenti since it doesn't reset between waves. Or is it to reduce argenti toughness bar?
Well I don't know that, but yeah I would like to reduce Argenti's toughness faster
@@ZettoGenshin yeah imo that's when make jiaoqiu so powerful since he doesn't have the problem of needing to reapply debuffs on waves of enemy base on his A6 trace(even between boss's phases). I'm looking forward on seeing more of jiaoqiu from your channel😆
@@ZettoGenshinbang bantuin. Ini klo jq pake sign lc, berarti kafka blacksw jiaoqiu relic n planarnya sama semua? 4 prisoner, 2 glammoth?
@@lily-eh1ei iya semua pake prisoner aja + glamoth (spd minimal 135)
@@ZettoGenshin pf selalu full bintang main auto semua. Tapi MOC selalu kurang 1 bintang. Berat bang floor 12. Gw akuin lu hebat bgt skillnya. 🤗
Whats your opinion about JQ?Did u think he improve Acheron by a lot
Imo. He certainly does
He does, my acheron deal like 300k (bad relic) but with him i can do like 700k lol
He does
100%. my acheron has been hitting 1mil dmg ults, and the stacks gained from his field are so insanely useful.
"a lot" is an understatemnt tbh. He is basically the missing puzzle piece in her teams, they're like bread n butter together
he make blackswan hyper carry work? without actively active the dot? wtf?
I dont have sparkle, so i was wondering which is the best. Sparkle or jiaq?
Depends on your chars. If you have Archeron, 100% Jiaq. If you have traditional dps like Seele etc, Sparkle.
@@extrastuffboxofaksakl1k354 ooooh okayyy thanksss
sparkle might be better, she's flexible and a great support, unlike JQ who's teams are limited
Honestly doesn't matter, just pull the one u like more. My account is full of just men (the only one who isn't is RM) and I still am able to do everything full stars
Hands down its sparkle.
So jiaoqiu is a better guinaifen?
Is Jiaoqiu really BIS for Acheron? I want to pull Acheron on her rerun, should I get Jiaoqiu for her, or it is not necessary?
Jiaoqiu is BIS but acheron can function fine without him
wow your jq planar has 7 spd each very lucky
ugh i have enough wishes for 2 5 stars but i was planning on get feixao and lc but i need a acheron support
You can wait for sunday like me🗿
If i replace Pela E6 with Sparkle E0 would it be better ??
If your Acheron is only E0, I would expect a similar result. I haven't tried myself though
Which is better for Acheron? Jiaoqiu or Black Swan ?
Jiaoqiu
Jiaoqiu
@@ZettoGenshin ty
@@bobreynoldsFFC ty
puh izin nanya, klu dh ada kafka mnding ambil bs apa acheron aja :v lgi blunder...acheron cman ada pela msalahnya
Klo mau dot Kafka lebih kuat ya ambil bs, tapi Kafka bisa aja maen diteam super break, klo mau Acheron sekalian ambil Jiaoqiu deh
Superbreak uda ada firefly premium, brarti ambil jeki aja buat keron? bahan skrng 12k jade tkut ga cukup wkwk
Aaaa naisu
dude did jiao LC give another debuff for acheron or not?
No I dont think so
@@ZettoGenshin aight man..thanks
Try to change pela to robin, it should be 0-1 cycle , even if acheron is e0!
I've heard that e0 acheron's best team is with jiaoqiu and robin, is that true?
New ToA 1.2 Wuthering Waves When? also can't wait for Jiaoqiu with Dr Ratio :3
Does jiaoqiu make trend light cone obsolete?
Maybe.. I've never actually used Acheron with preservation because I don't build them
@@trevorle1657 yes, since enemies are already receiving a debuff from jiaoqiu, trend doesn't give Acheron another stack. Imo this is a good thing bcs trend isn't a good lightcone with it's bad stats and rng-ish passive. with jiaoqiu, you can opt for a better LC on your preservation
I tried playing with fu Xuan and trend as sustain on Argenti boss. Ult just keep on coming lol never tried it on the 1st phase tho. I used Avent on the 1st phase
Um just wanna ask.. my acheron got 4k atk 50 cr and 230 cdmg.. but she never get 1m dmg like urs😂 why? Where did i do wrong😂
And my highest is around 500k only😅
Maybe you need higher crit rate, and try to hit 4+ enemies
@imanash8326 You need a higher crit rate bro. My Acheron is 55/203 outside of battle. But in battle, 67 (Because of Izumo) 79 (Because of Fu Xuan) 97 (From E1) 101 (From Dead Waters set). Most of the time, she could hit 700 - 800k on the Trio puppets (2 Nihility, E6 Pela S5 Pearl. E1 Gui S5 Tutorial).
@@orekisan6534 in battle my cr is 70 but then i guess i need e1 and fuxuan to help me get more cr.. 🙃
@imanash8326 A 100% Crit Rate without E1 is possible bro, but you have to trade that with your CDM, unless you somehow got a godly Crit/CDM of a relic set.
Im still waiting for the special program to see what banner next patch is if there is no Acheron then i will pul Jiaoqiu
There is not acheron, only feixiao, kafka, robin, black swan in phase 1 and dr. ratio and linghsa in phase two
@@zelphus6036 wtf 6 banner? Holy moly
@@rizkyhidayat147New banner type
@@zelphus6036 source?
@@bruh6267 Uncle G7DD8tV
I lost my 50-50 to ysnqying so i cant havehim. 😅
Hopefully jiaoqiu can help me clear second half(my lynx is not enough 😭) kill them before they can kill me
Who says Pela is SP positive ??
she drank soo much sp here cos of how little time her debuffs last and they dont persist within waves either !!
If she's 160 spd you can do 2 basic skill and then the ult is back up. She is SP positive so I don't get where you get that idea from
exactly. i always run out of sp with her because if you already have the debuff from the pearls lc on the enemy you have to skill with her which is most of the time since ulting before doing a basic already gives the enemy the ensnared debuff from the lc lol she's not the best acheron support people claim to be.
@@kyeopmuwda so just basic to apply pearl debuff before ulting you silly goose
@@kyeopmuwda give her more speed
@@adult_nubian but she is using a bit of sp here , she is especially ass in pf cos her buffs dont stay in bw waves
sparkle or him
Overall i'd say sparkle cause she fits in almost any team comp and has huge cd buff, however if u wanna pull for him and especially if you have a dot team, acheron team or ult relying dps like argenti or yunli go for him (you can still pull him if you don't have these if you want dw).
@@fr4nx2775 thank you for the answer !! i'll consider it first what best for my account for now
Depends on your acheron e2 or not, and if you have many char that will improve by having sparkle
His bis is Acheron , if you have seele , JY , DHIL , argenti, or any hypercarry go for sparkle
Sparkle can be used in many teams, she boosts lot of damage. I got gaca adiction and accidentally pull jiaoqiu and his lc while i dont have acheron and currently save for ff rerun😢😢😢 i r3gret it
Fyi : jiaoqiu sign lc vs s5 GNSW only have 1% difference.
then use guinaifen
@@Romario..... check from pryweden websites.
Is this his own damage or everyones damage taking factor?. Like that Vul does something not just for himself
so... almost 13K jades for 1 more crimson knot per turn. Yikes