DON’T Buy This - QD OLED G8 Samsung G85SB Monitor Review

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @thedisplayguy
    @thedisplayguy  Год назад +12

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    • @JTL1776
      @JTL1776 Год назад +1

      if it's not 4K.
      Neo Odyssey Q8 is 4K, so why is the QD-OLED Q8 not 4K.

    • @kevinlein4236
      @kevinlein4236 Год назад

      Would you recommend returning it if you have the green static on the bottom when opening some programs. (BTW it goes away if you restart the monitor).

  • @mbut115
    @mbut115 Год назад +102

    I wish he stops doing those noise, it's very cringey

    • @Dew4lk
      @Dew4lk Год назад +10

      Very

    • @The.Sky.Driver
      @The.Sky.Driver 11 месяцев назад +4

      Fun is now illegal

    • @webber7217
      @webber7217 10 месяцев назад +1

      cry more

    • @gurrusquieta1
      @gurrusquieta1 9 месяцев назад

      Then cover your ears 🤷‍♂️
      I think it's hilarious 🤷‍♂️

    • @Cronson82
      @Cronson82 4 месяца назад

      I stopped watching this video 20 seconds in. This dude sucks.

  • @V6HD29
    @V6HD29 Год назад +73

    “DONT BUY THIS” me with one sat on desk smiling at picture quality 🤓

    • @Z_3D
      @Z_3D 7 месяцев назад +3

      Samsies. Samsung practically gave it to me @700$. I'm kind of in shock at how beautiful it is even though its not 4k like my Benq.

    • @MilesMorales-oi5bj
      @MilesMorales-oi5bj 7 месяцев назад +6

      Same here, it’s the best monitor I ever had. And it is currently the best monitor available until a 38“ 3880 x 2160px 120hz+ OLED is coming out.

    • @V6HD29
      @V6HD29 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Z_3D resolution doesn’t really matter

    • @V6HD29
      @V6HD29 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MilesMorales-oi5bj to be honest even when better stuff comes out I’m happy with this panel, really brings pc to the next level and let’s me appreciate Oled

    • @dung123456nd
      @dung123456nd 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi guys. Has any one noticed burn-in or any significant problems? I plan on getting one of these.

  • @duesenbeat
    @duesenbeat Год назад +32

    Got this monitor a few weeks ago using it for gaming and photo editing. The size, the clarity of the glossy screen, the colors (12bit @175hz) and the brightness are beautiful!! I was hold back to buy because so many people are talking about color fringing wich isn ´t that bad at all at least for me. You really have to sit with your face in that monitor to see any kind of fringing and who really does that?! I really don ´t get it! I will never go back to a lcd or what so ever. The image quality is what i was waiting for :) It´s not perfect, but its damn close!! Any LCD is looking broken after you worked/played with this kind of monitor. Best is to test for yourself and find out if its the right one for you!

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Год назад +1

      true, prob in simple words phone/laptop/tabs good led look like reading good magazines, but good led monitor look like the person/object is in front of you

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Год назад +1

      bad ones are no really theyre blurry inaccurate smtms not bright enough

    • @jeffrbake
      @jeffrbake Год назад +1

      Oh so you are getting 12bit 175hz from the HDMI 2.1? I have been having trouble finding sources that say if the HDMI is full bandwidth.

    • @duesenbeat
      @duesenbeat Год назад +2

      @@jeffrbake That hdmi is somehow broken atm. Has something to do with Nvidia drivers. Getting blackscreen and flickering on hdmi. I switched to the original mini dp port cable with no more issues at all but you can only get 10 bit @ 175hz. But as far as I understand 12bit isnt really working with this monitor. Max is 10bit. Dont know why 12 bit can be choosen and if, no one would be able to see a difference between 10 or 12 but I guess 😄 The reason why I choose this monitor over the Alienware.

  • @michael8492
    @michael8492 Год назад +79

    I LOVE this Monitor.
    No Problems, no quality issues, nothing.
    I picked it over the alienware because the alienware is a bit loud and with the g8 you have a smart TV included + game hub. You can adjust the settings with remote control .. These things make the g8 so much better for me as the alienware.
    I use it with an rtx and free sync works perfect.

    • @novalechuck7498
      @novalechuck7498 Год назад +8

      Alienware is louder because of the Gsync Ultimate / cooling Fan

    • @Dew4lk
      @Dew4lk Год назад +4

      How is the noise on the G8 compared to the DWF?

    • @novalechuck7498
      @novalechuck7498 Год назад +7

      @@Dew4lk no noise on both..they have freesync and no fans

    • @Dew4lk
      @Dew4lk Год назад +5

      @@novalechuck7498 I believe that the DWF still has a fan, but it’s not running as fast as the DW because of the lack of g sync module. So almost not audible, would be interesting if this G8 has no fan as I would rather not have a moving part in my monitor which can break/and/or cause irritating fan noise.

    • @novalechuck7498
      @novalechuck7498 Год назад +1

      @@Dew4lk aha..good to know that the AW has a fan.
      What i found on a Reddit user Review:
      Noise: The G8 is silent, as there is no fan. This is for me the biggest advantage the G8 has.Some people say that it needs the fan as OLEDs get hot during usage, so you decide which one you want. I prefer silence, so I am glad that the G8 is fanless.

  • @Orchengo
    @Orchengo Год назад +44

    "The stand sucks". Thanks for the explanation. I just got this monitor in yesterday and decided for it over the AW partly bc of the stand. It doesnt intrude on your desk as much and you can actually store stuff on it so its like its not even there. You also could have mentioned the enourmous power supply. Does the AW have one like that too?
    Thankfully I noticed no issues with my monitor so far and hope it will last a long time. Also what about the pixel care settings? Should I worry about it?

    • @AbulaSyllabus
      @AbulaSyllabus Год назад +2

      AW has internal power supply

    • @SubLimation7
      @SubLimation7 Год назад +2

      I hate the stand on g85sb I immediately returned it, aw is much much better. Insane amounts of wobble on g85sb

    • @SubLimation7
      @SubLimation7 Год назад

      Did I mention the 3 year Dell premium warranty? Samsung will give you trouble returning in the 15 day window lmao

    • @dragoonxgamer
      @dragoonxgamer 2 месяца назад

      any problem till now
      i am thinking to buy it should go for 80 cm Odyssey OLED G8 Gaming Monitor with 240 Hz refresh rate or this monitor?

    • @Orchengo
      @Orchengo 2 месяца назад

      @@dragoonxgamer No Problems at all. I upgraded to the OLED G9 and my friend got the G8. Both are working fine

  • @kristofferraecampaniel7157
    @kristofferraecampaniel7157 Год назад +26

    i've had it for 2 months, i've had a lot of monitors, even a 4k 144hz, and currently also have a C1. but i'm still more conented with this. i'm very happy with it and have no complaints. You can't have all perfect in life anyway.

    • @dysnXO
      @dysnXO Год назад

      and everything works fine? HDR enabled, 175hz all works?

    • @kristofferraecampaniel7157
      @kristofferraecampaniel7157 Год назад

      @@dysnXO yes, HDR ist enabled automatically when i play games, u can set it through windows. full 175Hz as well.

    • @ginevra8692
      @ginevra8692 Год назад

      @@kristofferraecampaniel7157 better than the aw3423dw with nvidia gpu?

    • @kristofferraecampaniel7157
      @kristofferraecampaniel7157 Год назад +1

      @@ginevra8692 can’t really say about it cause i‘ve only had the 3080/4080 to use it with. but Aesthetics-wise, i prefer it

    • @oofbigsmoke.3136
      @oofbigsmoke.3136 8 месяцев назад

      is the drop from 4k noticable? tbh bought the G8 thinking its 4k but just now realized the difference

  • @asuna9838
    @asuna9838 Год назад +18

    Few days with these monitors and haven't run into any major issues. Samsung currently has it for $1000, down from $1500, also happened to be eligible for the Samsung EPP discount which brought it down to $800. At almost 50% off, I couldn't argue with the priced compared to other OLED's let alone QD-OLED.
    Color fringing doesn't seem existent on windows11, seeing people only report it on w10. Either i'm blind, or I don't sit close enough to my monitor but i've yet to see this problem and honestly did not know about it until I saw reviews looking for color calibration options from professionals.
    Signal loss seems to be my only issue so far, and it's not even mid gaming or anything obnoxious/dramatic inbetween gameplay or something important. What happens for me is if you let the screen time out (being AFK) upon coming back there's a low chance the singal might not be found and you have to fiddle around with unplugging cables real quick/restarting PC but the solution to this is if you know you are going to step away for a long period if time, manually shut down with the remote provided and you'll never run into this issue. It's only when it times out due to inactivity.
    Coming from the 2017 Samsung CHG70 which is also a HDR (shitty btw) 144h curved (27 inch) monitor, I couldn't be more happier with my purchase that took me 7 years basically to find a worthwhile upgrade. It was honestly between this one and the Alienware one, along with the LG C2/C3 (size was the biggest con for me here as 42 is way too huge) but 34 is a definite sweetspot IMHO.
    All in all this was a massive W going to 175 hz, a QD-OLED display. Being a smart monitor with the multimedia is also a pro, no con's here and every app I tested works flawlessly. Disney+, Amazon Video, RUclips all working great. At $1500 I will that's very steep and the Alienware would be the better alternative but when you can grab it on discount and if it's lower than the Alienware one it's a 100% must buy.

    • @fullsend_ny7948
      @fullsend_ny7948 Год назад

      love listening to idiots try to justfy dumb ass purchases lmao

    • @ketxyz
      @ketxyz Год назад

      After 3 months are you still so happy with this monitor? I just received mine today and im quite scared of the future

    • @asuna9838
      @asuna9838 Год назад +1

      @@ketxyz Haven't had any issues so far, still very happy with my purchase. The only con I have is i've seen the Dell Alienware aw323423dwf drop to $799 currently and I probably would of gone with that over the Samsung if the price was the same at the time I purchased mine

    • @ketxyz
      @ketxyz Год назад

      @@asuna9838 i bought mine and i have a few issues. Im getting screen artefacts, its making a strange whistling noise and sometimes it has difficulty to wake up i turn on my pc. Any of those that you have encountered?

    • @ketxyz
      @ketxyz 11 месяцев назад

      Well i ended up returning my monitor. First of all ive got the coils that where whining when clear content was displayed. Second thing - netflix works but its displaying at 1/3 of the screen. Zoom option is disabled for netflix and hell no, it was ridiculous to find a fix. Ill be waiting for the next generation, as i ended up being very disappointed

  • @81bestof
    @81bestof Год назад +31

    i am really happy with this monitor, and i find it to be a blessing that it does not have the G-sync module and all the fan-noise that it comes with. And the mini-dp/HDMI is not an issue at all for me. I bought a mini-hdmi to hdmi, and then i have 175hz 12Bit color. I would recommend the G8 :)

    • @osmangazi-313
      @osmangazi-313 Год назад

      Which hdmi did you buy mate? I need one too but cant decide which one will give me 12bit @175hz

    • @Pete.C
      @Pete.C Год назад

      @@osmangazi-313 I think any 2.1 compatible HDMI cable would give you these figures.

    • @robhewitt5640
      @robhewitt5640 Год назад

      Does the mini display port do 12 bit?

    • @81bestof
      @81bestof Год назад

      @@robhewitt5640 no, it dies 10 bit. The micro hdmi dioes 12 bit 😊

    • @robhewitt5640
      @robhewitt5640 Год назад

      @@81bestof what make is your particular hdmi? Having trouble finding one

  • @Accuaro
    @Accuaro Год назад +43

    I'm actually glad this doesn't have a Gsync module, all it would do is increase both cost and delay. Yes, Gsync modules has worse response times than a display without Gsync.

    • @driftwize
      @driftwize Год назад +1

      i found this out first hand recently after having gsync module monitors for 5 years, will never get another.

    • @farrez_gump
      @farrez_gump Год назад

      Hey noob ? Why dose that give worst response, I have Gsync off as well most YTers say turn off , but it was built to work better with nividia gpu correct? I understand it don’t , and if you use 3Dmark says turn off not to effect score . Dose free sync do the same ?

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Год назад +2

    just ordered this for my spare no expense $8000 Gaming PC build.. it's literally perfect for my needs... sort of the Goldie lox syndrome.. as I really don't want some gigantic 50" TV on my sexy gaming desk.

  • @dinospumoni8255
    @dinospumoni8255 Год назад +4

    The Alienware ones suck too. Coil whine and fan noise on a monitor over $1000 is ridiculous. I hope the MSI variant gets it right.

  • @verttisyrjala2897
    @verttisyrjala2897 Год назад +10

    If you want to unlock 1000 nits 2% window with this monitor aka "HDR 1000", you'll have to tweak the monitors service menu settings to enable it.

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 4 месяца назад

      Nope... It's a setting in the menu

    • @verttisyrjala2897
      @verttisyrjala2897 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Tripokaridos22 Yeah I phrased it badly, I meant with HGIG (Game HDR).

    • @SillyDillysTunes
      @SillyDillysTunes 21 день назад

      Are there any problems with making it go that high? Does it cause pixel bleed? I've already found the HDR to be blinding at times.

  • @flufius13
    @flufius13 Год назад +2

    >Recommends Alienware with HDMI 2.0
    >Advertises HDMI 2.1 cable for consoles

  • @InternetSupervillain
    @InternetSupervillain Год назад +15

    U got the review in first bro. good for u. evey other bigger channel is now inferior to u. ill wait for tjr msi meg oled review, that's the one i've been waiting for over a year for.

  • @shantaosun4119
    @shantaosun4119 Год назад +12

    I used Samsung EPP discount to purchase it with a price tag at $1200. At this price, it seems to be worth the additional price compared to AW3423dwf. Samsung has HDMI 2.1 and can get to 12bit@175Hz which is better than the AW3423dwf's 10bit@100Hz. I also like Samsung's stand better than Alienware's. However my unit has QC issues as well. It has a dead pixel and TV static was observed as shown in your video as well. End up returning this unit and reordered one. I'll see if I can be luckier next time.

    • @shantaosun4119
      @shantaosun4119 Год назад +9

      My second unit arrived and it seems to be perfect.

    • @UptownNYC
      @UptownNYC Год назад +1

      @@shantaosun4119 I just bought this monitor (have it in the box for now, waiting for a distro plate to complete my pc). How do I check for this "tv static"? What programs did you open that introduced that issue?? Did you have a PS5 or console attached at the time it happened??

    • @shantaosun4119
      @shantaosun4119 Год назад +1

      @@UptownNYC I observed the 'TV static' randomly on any occasions such as playing games, videos or even just browsing websites. That happens on my day one experience. So if there are indeed any quality control issues, I think you should be able to find it quickly. Be sure to check on all ports. In my case the issue occured on HDMI but not DP.

    • @UptownNYC
      @UptownNYC Год назад +1

      @@shantaosun4119 Wow, okay that sounds serious issue (not a handshake HDMI issue). I would've returned it myself. I guess I'll hook it up now and play around with my PS5 and hook up my laptop to check for any issues before my return window closes... Thanks for the heads up!

    • @velvetthundr
      @velvetthundr Год назад +1

      Alienware is 10-bit @144Hz bro. Not 100Hz

  • @specialresident22
    @specialresident22 4 месяца назад

    I just bought this monitor, what won over me was the minimum bezil and colour ring at back. I'm not a Samsung fan as I got adverts periodically on my physical dvds somehow on a old led smart tv. But loved the min look and the built in tv interface and honestly I haven't driven it long yet but as far as unboxing and a few hours of use I'm gobsmacked as it looks even better in person it's light and setup was super easy, on my phone lol. I with it had gsync but honestly worst thing I did was get locked to nvidia, even if gsync is wow

  • @JFinns
    @JFinns Год назад +6

    Just want a regular 27" 16:9 1440p 165 or 240Hz VRR QD-OLED.

  • @SillyDillysTunes
    @SillyDillysTunes 21 день назад

    Bought mine a week ago for $650. It's so incredible that I won't buy anything else until it dies. Zero quality control problems either. I'm not sure how the HDR isn't considered bright when it blinds me. 😂 He didn't touch on the fact it's true black, so there is zero pixel bleed and thus the black around the edges of any pixels that are lit are extremely defined. It makes clarity go way up even though it's 1440p, it seems as clear as my brothers neo g8 4k monitor. Having a gloss finish also increases brightness, color AND definition.

  • @Abou47Pandas
    @Abou47Pandas День назад

    I bought one for 540 dollars, new. Is that worth it?

  • @cossagalaxy2114
    @cossagalaxy2114 4 месяца назад +1

    Bought one on sale for $800 and i couldnt be happier.

  • @soren633
    @soren633 Год назад +12

    I would do more research on the G-Sync modules since it seems other creators don't seem to have the same love for them.

  • @zacdavis7
    @zacdavis7 Год назад +9

    I have the LG27 oled and this G8 trying to decide which one I want to keep. The LG is definitely faster for FPS games but the Samsung is beautiful and looks awesome! I don’t have the any issues with my G8 but just don’t know if it’s worth $600 more than the LG as I manly play FPS games.

    • @UncleKnighthawk
      @UncleKnighthawk Год назад +1

      I am in the same boat. I am currently using the LG27, but I want to try an ultrawide so I am going to pick up the G8 tomorrow and test it out. I might splurge a little more for the LG45, but that might be a little big.

    • @Dew4lk
      @Dew4lk Год назад

      What did you end up keeping?

    • @zacdavis7
      @zacdavis7 Год назад

      @@Dew4lk I kept the LG do to mostly playing fps games like cod, warzone, apex. The 240 hz screen is so fast and I always end up putting he G8 in 16.9 when I play those sonny eyes aren’t panning all over. But if I didn’t play mostly fps I would have kept the Samsung g8 oled.

    • @UncleKnighthawk
      @UncleKnighthawk Год назад +2

      @@Dew4lk I am currently using the LG27, LG45, and Samsung G8 OLEDs. I think I am keeping the Samsung. They are all beautiful displays, but for me the Samsung is the perfect size. The LG45 is an incredible display, but the size and curve are a bit too much. The LG27 is the only one I had color fringing issues with text on, so it wouldn’t be the best for productivity. I don’t mind the 175hz limitation, as I haven’t noticed a difference playing FPS games.

    • @EvidensInsania
      @EvidensInsania Год назад

      I would always take the ultrawide aspect ratio over the higher hz. I just love having the extra peripheral vision in games and being the same aspect ratio of movies is also nice.

  • @FollowingStorm0
    @FollowingStorm0 Год назад +44

    Based upload. Great review, steer clear of Samsung displays until they up their QC. Funny how the Alienware DW monitor is superior in nearly every metric while being significantly more affordable lmao

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад +5

      😂

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 Год назад +12

      The Alienware is a Samsung display.........

    • @TheRealElectricOutdoors
      @TheRealElectricOutdoors Год назад +4

      Pretty sure the Alienware is a Samsung panel lol

    • @daywizzle
      @daywizzle Год назад +5

      @@TheRealElectricOutdoorsso what? They still might have better QC

    • @LD90Gaming
      @LD90Gaming Год назад +4

      @@TheRealElectricOutdoors its all about the firmware, just because alienware has a samsung panel, doesnt mean it has samsung issues

  • @BugbugAdventures
    @BugbugAdventures 3 месяца назад +2

    just came here to thumbs down for the click bait title

  • @MatthewRumble
    @MatthewRumble Год назад +2

    I like how there's no fan on this versus the alienware. Dell has the worst customer service imaginable

    • @Dew4lk
      @Dew4lk Год назад +1

      Wait what?? Is there no fan in the OLED G8?

    • @MatthewRumble
      @MatthewRumble Год назад

      ​@@Dew4lk no

  • @velez910
    @velez910 Год назад +2

    I don't understand why people don't like the fact ots not as bright in smaller sections as I would not want the sun in the background being 1000nits making it hard to look at and blasting out the rest of the image

  • @martmeister
    @martmeister 25 дней назад

    So this is currently $550 on Samsung with EPP. Should I get this as my first OLED experience on a budget or pony up for the newer version (G85SD) for $720?

    • @gatewayrealtor664
      @gatewayrealtor664 24 дня назад

      Where do u see it at that price? I see 649 new.... Link me?
      BTW will productivity work screw with burn in? It's QD oled afterall...

  • @DrummerElite13
    @DrummerElite13 2 дня назад

    Im so sick of people complaining about mini display port. They're less than $10 on amazon

  • @huffdiggler
    @huffdiggler 10 месяцев назад

    I’m happy with mine, I’m glad it’s not too bright, being an oled it’s super dark screen means it doesn’t need to be overly bright, and the last thing you need is screen burn, lg does like overly bright oled, but suffer badly with burn in

  • @MatthewRumble
    @MatthewRumble Год назад

    I just bought the oled g8 since it was on sale today. Do i need to buy a micro hdmi or any cords or does it come in the box?

    • @JailBr3ak3r77
      @JailBr3ak3r77 Год назад

      Yea you’d need to buy a HDMI to micro HDMI cable.

  • @zest1989
    @zest1989 9 месяцев назад

    Just purchased this monitor after extensive study... Why i buy g8 oled?
    Qd oled
    Glossy coating
    Decent build in speaker
    Tizen OS
    Nice slim panel and stand design
    Also 40 % discount
    I have considered monitor announced from ces 2024, however decide to get this instead

    • @Bobgill31
      @Bobgill31 8 месяцев назад

      Do you worry about the burn in problems? Or other quality issues of this monitor. Not sure if i should buy this one for $678 or the lg 34GN850-B for $529.

  • @goldenheartOh
    @goldenheartOh Год назад +1

    For $1,500 just buy a high end 4k oled TV & get more pixels.
    If you really want to, you could do a custom resolution on your pc to get only a wide-screen image.

    • @ronniekregar3482
      @ronniekregar3482 Год назад +3

      Using a TV as an everyday PC monitor is a terrible idea.

    • @goldenheartOh
      @goldenheartOh Год назад

      @@ronniekregar3482 agreed, but the context is for a video advising not to buy a specific model oled display for your PC, not "don't use any oled as a monitor," so the target audience are those who are still determined to buy oled for their pc.
      Maybe they'll game on it more than they'll use it for work.

  • @hereiseurope
    @hereiseurope 7 месяцев назад

    Just ordered a used one from Amazon warehouse for 735 euros the new one is 946 euros... Hope it will arrive without issues

  • @Raidenorius
    @Raidenorius 10 месяцев назад

    Did you have right curve correction for QD-OLED in DisplayCAL?
    G8 has it's strong sides (over DELL or Philips on the same matrix display, the last one is MSI) - full caribration options, HDMI 2.1 (40gb, when MSI has 48gb), HDR 10+ (working on aps form Tizen) and HDR10+ gaming (working only on NV gpus), Tizen OS and apps, noiseless (when Philips and Dell without F aren't). Some are small, and it has to be said, only DELL without "F" and MSI can work without issues with AMD gpus. Samsung, Dell with "F" and Philips have issues with AMD gpus (lowering max lumi and flickering with VRR more). Additional downsides of Sasmung are: lacking of usb hub, lacking audio output for speakers/headphones.
    All 5 monitors on that QD-OLED 1st gen Display are great.

  • @cohenlopez
    @cohenlopez Год назад +3

    Premiere Pro and Lightroom actually have stuttering issues when using with a G-Sync display and having G-Sync enabled. I have to disable G-Sync to smoothly use them. It seems like a known bug that Adobe isn’t willing to address.

    • @zensaiy
      @zensaiy Год назад

      Did you used G-Sync for Fullscreen and Window screen? Or only for Fullscreen option? i think you picked the first option, am i right?

  • @Celsian
    @Celsian Год назад +2

    Finally, a useful review of this monitor. Thank you.

  • @shitao599
    @shitao599 Год назад

    Hello.
    If it is the same price as the Alienware version, or even about $50 dollars cheaper, would you consider a recommendation on this one over Alienware?

  • @jann.s3442
    @jann.s3442 Год назад +1

    Did you use an AMD GPU for the tests? Monitors Unboxed measured 1000 nits in a 10% window with NVIDIA but a lower value with AMD!

  • @sj6523
    @sj6523 Год назад +1

    downside of the alienware monitor with the same panel as this:
    G-sync fan noise
    additional input latency (about 5ms or so, this is due to G-sync)
    Slightly more expensive

    • @DreamyWoIf
      @DreamyWoIf Год назад +1

      The non-gsync Alienware version is almost 300 cheaper with even less input lag. Better choice unless you use HDMI.

    • @Bimbus2001
      @Bimbus2001 Год назад

      The AW has 8ms input latency and the Samsung 17ms. The G-Sync compatible AW version has only 3ms input latency.

    • @pek0806
      @pek0806 Год назад +1

      @@Bimbus2001
      This was fixed with the latest firmware update. 3.54 total input/response time now. same as the DWF

  • @jos_010_nl3
    @jos_010_nl3 2 месяца назад +1

    This screen sucks, glitched black screen everyday starting up PC. Must hold power to reset but that aint working always neither. Black screen but with sound. Seems they sold it this way. Workarounds yes, but so we buy stuff with workarounds these days. Not recommending buying this, oled is very nice thats so but only when it turns on properly . I just took me 7 minutes again to have my screen working, 13 times power button reset bla bla bla and it works! Congratulations

  • @lava1rain
    @lava1rain Год назад

    The Alienware 34 QDOLED does not have HDMI 2.1, but this one does. For gaming and movies it is great. for regular PC get a 2d monitor. I am buying this and when I am not gaming, I will use my 32 inch IPS

  • @Rayman30
    @Rayman30 Год назад +1

    I have the G9 OG, the blacks are terrible, and I am considering a new monitor. Would it smarter to wait for a G9 OLED or would the smaller size be fine after a while?

  • @JorgeBarreraC
    @JorgeBarreraC Год назад

    God I have been waiting for this video so long

  • @davisterrel
    @davisterrel Год назад +1

    Thanks for the information!!

  • @PIDOFREAK
    @PIDOFREAK Год назад +1

    How about a fan? The G-Sync Model Alienware has an annoying fan, what about this Samsung?

  • @Pividol
    @Pividol Год назад +3

    Strange because their phone displays are perfect, and the best in the industry.

    • @eduonkhl
      @eduonkhl Год назад

      That's because Samsung Display and the vendors do the QC. Samsung Display is truly awesome but Samsung Electronics (which is responsible for this crap) rests in pure ignorance of success and doesn't see a reason to not be incredibly lazy. Samsung Display actually manufacture the displays and is fully responsible for the R & D. Samsung Electronics is responsible for the products themselves, marketing and distribution. Despite the same name. One is good and the other one is useless.
      This monitor is a perfect example. Usually smart tvs are cheaper because they get royalties like putting netflix on your remote and collecting and selling your data. Meanwhile Samsung Electronics cheaps out further by using the same SOC as in their Tv's, collecting/selling your data AND having the audacity to charge 400 $ more than someone who doesn't buy it's displays from the parent company with the same panel.
      I like the design much better than the Alienware and if it would have been a full metal contruction (including the backside) it maybe would have been worth the extra as not only does that look premium but could also be used as a heatsink to push the panel more and give an actual advantage over the Alienware models. But as it stands now avoid at all costs since warranty is unclear (Samsung made different quotes if burn in is covered or not) and it's more expensive with terrible QC and horrible Tizen.

    • @alexbender2829
      @alexbender2829 Год назад

      Samsung perfect? PWM of very bad level in smartphones

    • @solyngen883
      @solyngen883 Год назад +1

      Samsung made the panel for alienware! Its the same.

    • @jimqjordun6431
      @jimqjordun6431 Год назад

      Their Monitor division is different from the phone one. Their monitor team is drunk or something.

    • @3_Dimensional
      @3_Dimensional Год назад

      @alex bender eh what? 👀 Nonsense literally

  • @specialresident22
    @specialresident22 4 месяца назад

    Thks Just canceled my order due to no force modial. Will be ordering the alien ware one even though I love Samsung desogn

  • @phucvo4325
    @phucvo4325 9 месяцев назад

    You can’t tell that Don’t buy or should buy. Monitor is like food, everybody have different taste on monitor also technology is not perfect that why they upgrade it every year. I love mind and its stand. My desk kind of not big and that stand helps me a lot.

  • @aaronjohnson2999
    @aaronjohnson2999 Год назад +3

    Let me know when we get a 4K model…

  • @JeremyHansenblue2kid3
    @JeremyHansenblue2kid3 Год назад +2

    As a samsung phone user. Samsung sucks and once this phone breaks I'm going iPhone. QC does not exist at all.

    • @brettfalkiner9800
      @brettfalkiner9800 Год назад +1

      LOL iPhone have samsung screens now

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад

      @@brettfalkiner9800 Never had an issue with my Samsung phones and I get a new one each year

    • @JeremyHansenblue2kid3
      @JeremyHansenblue2kid3 Год назад

      @@Chrissage-Gaming That would be why you dont have issues with them, the displays are fine but phones have issues, my washing machine broke 4 god damn times. Also my parents fridge leaked continuously. Samsung really needs better product testing.

    • @JeremyHansenblue2kid3
      @JeremyHansenblue2kid3 Год назад

      @@brettfalkiner9800 screens are okay, beautiful actually; it's everything else about them.

  • @Grokadile
    @Grokadile Год назад

    Absolutely amazing video! Becuase of my job I get some samsung discounts so for me it is the exact same price as the aw3423dwf. Would you think it would be good for me to go with the samsung oled g8?

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад +1

      No, not unless it comes with a longer warranty or something.

    • @Grokadile
      @Grokadile Год назад

      @@thedisplayguy Thank you so much. It comes with a 3 year oled burn in warranty for me. and luckily they increased the samsung discount so now it is a total of 800 for me.

  • @dinobot_maximize
    @dinobot_maximize Год назад +1

    Thanks for the heads up

  • @Deividas-zg5ip
    @Deividas-zg5ip Год назад

    just one question is glossy or matte ?

  • @z3br4-777
    @z3br4-777 20 дней назад

    Comparing paper specs warrior, any actual reason to not recommend it and why?

  • @141menace
    @141menace Год назад +6

    Stil waiting for a glossy 32" 4K 165-240Hz QD-OLED.

  • @iloghin
    @iloghin 11 месяцев назад

    I got this at 765$ on a black Friday deal. for this price is a killer qdOLED Monitor

  • @dariomladenovski7047
    @dariomladenovski7047 Год назад +1

    if you buy this monitor you'll get a glossy panel but no HDR1000, if you go for the miniLED monitors you will get HDR1000 but no glossy screen, so looks like I'll be buying the QD OLED TV because monitors can't provide both

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад +1

      S95C

    • @Hyperfluxe
      @Hyperfluxe Год назад +1

      ​@@thedisplayguy 55" is too big for desktop use though. 42" would be phenomenal.

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад +1

      It does have HDR 1000 mode, you need to turn off game HDR(HGIG), in the game settings, in picture settings turn peak brightness to high, after calibration with windows HDR calibration my G8 OLED shows 1000 nits, If you leave HGIG on it will clip to 400 nits!

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 Год назад +1

      @@Chrissage-Gaming it's good but it's still too dim for proper HDR, the S95B can push double the nits on a 10% window and on 50% window compared to this monitor and the S95C will be even brighter

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад +1

      @@dariomladenovski7047 you have to consider my 65in S95B is like 5x the size of my G8 OLED, so I'm not surprised it will be brighter on those Windows sizes. Windows tells me my S95B is 1038 nits, the G8 1000 nits after HDR calibration. The G8 gets plenty bright enough for now, obviously I'd like some more brightness for highlights, but, I usually use the monitor on 35/40 brightness, so it does get quite bright as is. Yeah, I know it will be brighter, I'm waiting to preorder a 65in S95C for my gaming rig to upgrade from my S95B. America are getting it earlier, but who am I to complain I had the G8 4 months before them, it is what it is. I will obviously be looking to upgrade my G8 OLED when something better comes along. Will say I do enjoy 4k 144hz 10bit off of my S95B, but the 2k 175hz 10bit from the G8 is still awesome in my opinion, but then, I have best of both worlds. FPS and single player games covered that way.

  • @Yazon2006
    @Yazon2006 Год назад

    That's true. Samsung products really often has issues. It's like 95% you'll have some issues when purchase samsung monitor.

  • @alexvadsoongnern2167
    @alexvadsoongnern2167 Год назад

    This is a good buying guide. Thanks for the best advice.

  • @austinling7318
    @austinling7318 Год назад

    OKAY OKAY i get the whole price thing but I have a discount for the ability to get this or the dwf for the same price (samsung 40-50 cheaper) and I am AMD... And i dont mind the whole micro situation..... so those two factors aside, which is the better monitor?

  • @thanosaias2717
    @thanosaias2717 Год назад

    Is it the 1st or the 2nd gen QD-Oled panel?

  • @arj9382
    @arj9382 Год назад +2

    Does it have polarizer? Or is it like the Alienware ?

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 5 месяцев назад

      Like Alienware these are like Mirrors ... What is the point of perfect black when it reflects everything.

  • @lefteriseleftheriades7381
    @lefteriseleftheriades7381 Год назад

    What doesn't make sense to me is that they released it in 2023 but put in the 2022 panel technology. Why didn't they use the panel of S95C ?

  • @walker2006au
    @walker2006au Год назад +2

    It's same panel as the alienware thus sux with any light shined on it. Blacks looks grey

  • @king_gt7996
    @king_gt7996 Год назад +8

    I had this for 3 weeks and I love it so not sure why you so against it. Games look and feel amazing and input lag is better over the Alieware DW version with gsync that I returned.

    • @Annodite
      @Annodite Год назад +3

      i agree. I dont understand why he was so negative about the whole monitor. G-sync ultimate is actually not as useful on OLED monitors and as alienware has shown, its has only made it more difficult for users to even get upgrades in firmware AND it costs more. The issues he highlighted are issues, but nothing as big of an issue as he makes it out to be.

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад +3

      @@Annodite I've had it 4 months and I've never had that odd issue he had at the bottom of the screen! The monitor is awesome and it does have a 1000 nits mode, so not quite sure why he hates it lol!

    • @Annodite
      @Annodite Год назад +1

      @@Chrissage-Gaming I got it for a month and likewise, no issues with it. I can see why the mini dp is frustrating but it's the same panel as the Alienware 3423dw so... I don't get why Alienware gets the love and Samsung gets the hate

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад +2

      @@Annoditegood to knows yours has been great too. I've had no issues, I do know some have a volume bug issue,people think it's software, I myself think it's a hardware problem, as mine has never once turned up by itself. The smaller ports are really no issue, just something to moan about. The reason they used them, full size ports have too much depth, they would have had to make the monitor thicker. I've had no issue with the port's, they give you a cable, what more do you want lol. Hdmi to micro HDMI 2.1 cable or an adapter is a few £s. Literally it's a slightly better version of the Alienware, but he hates this and loves the Alienware lol. Also, I have a 65in S95B sitting right next to my G8 OLED, the text fringing is not worse their literally pretty much identical, I barely notice it on either.

    • @khammerat
      @khammerat Год назад +2

      @@Chrissage-Gaming After what I've read, I guess you don't have the wifi connected on your monitor? I read a post on reddit, turned wifi off, and now I don't get the random +1 volume anymore. Also no issues on my monitor.

  • @patjcoan
    @patjcoan Год назад +1

    I recognize your voice, what’s your other channel?

  • @x8jason8x
    @x8jason8x Год назад +2

    I wouldn't buy it anyway lol. 4k or bust for me.

  • @eduonkhl
    @eduonkhl Год назад +1

    G-Sync module COULD be awesome and superior to VRR only. But Nvidia refuses to upgrade them. Did you know they still use the ANCIENT 28nm manufacturing node for it? 20nm for the version that supports HDR. That process node is from 2011/2014 !!
    No wonder that garbage has insane input lag, draws 15 watts of power AND needs a damn fan to keep it cool, on which everyone cheaps out on of course becaues why use something good like Noctua when you can save 15 bucks per unit on a well past 1k display and have users complain about fan noise? Excellent choise from both Nvidia refusing to update their ancient module which doesn't support DP 2.1 or HDMI 2.1, user upgradable firmware, dolby vision (how is that STILL not a thing on monitors in 2023!?), has terrible input lag (if processing really takes that long, which I highly doubt can't be improved with a newer process node, why not at least implement a "fast" mode that works like a regular scaler?), no out of the box hardware calibration feature that unlocks every setting and the list goes on and on.
    Given the price of that thing, the features it supports is downright pathetic and cheaping out with a process node from 2014 and forcing users to endure cheap fans from monitor makers is hilarious while at the same time not supporting essential features and the newest display cable standards just makes for a terrible of a product. Such incredible laziness from a company that during it's high was in the top 10 richest in the world should not be tolerated and needs to be punished by consumers by simply not buying it.

  • @phatmatt227
    @phatmatt227 6 месяцев назад

    This guy is obviously getting paid by some sponsor to crap on Samsung. I've been gaming on this monitor for about 2 months now and this is the best I've had so far.. The Xbox Series X looks beautiful playing in 1440p at 120fps. Only beef I have are the inputs Samsung chose to put on here. Other than that, It's a beautiful picture to game with.

  • @Aryzon13
    @Aryzon13 Год назад +4

    MSI at CES said their QD OLED will cost 800$.
    Just imagine if that ends up being true.

    • @progz5232
      @progz5232 Год назад

      got a source on that? that is pretty insaning lol

    • @Aryzon13
      @Aryzon13 Год назад

      @@progz5232 You hear it in Kitguru's CES video and on Techpowerup's article. I sadly cannot post links in comments so you have to find these on your own.
      Tho I am getting reports now that the price is nowhere close to that and is more like 1500$.

    • @progz5232
      @progz5232 Год назад +1

      @@Aryzon13 yeah after i wrote that comment i just googled it.. and saw some sites saying the same thing but i highly doubt it will be $800...

    • @dr.derekrobinson1920
      @dr.derekrobinson1920 Год назад +1

      It ended up not being true lol

    • @Aryzon13
      @Aryzon13 Год назад

      @@dr.derekrobinson1920 Yeah, big sad.

  • @greenclydefrog
    @greenclydefrog Год назад

    are those dead pixels or is it dust on your camera lens?

  • @Seriksy
    @Seriksy Год назад +1

    Most problems this monitors has seems to be coming from the gpu and not the display itself. Besides, the Alienware is sold out anywhere and doesn't seem to be restocked. Perhaps it's because of an upcoming new version

    • @DKNworld
      @DKNworld Год назад

      no, aliewnware is broken crap, 98% users have non working buttons or firmware destroy control OSDmenu ... i searching right now new one ... and after read this, cant buy this crap too :/

    • @Seriksy
      @Seriksy Год назад

      @@DKNworld I actually got the G8 and have no problems with it

  • @dwill658
    @dwill658 Год назад +1

    i would rather s95c over this i didnt buy a 4090 for 1440p

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад

      I’ll be reviewing the 55” model on day one.

  • @5ean5ean22
    @5ean5ean22 Год назад +2

    Want to see what the G9 49 inch OLED is about.

  • @chrishmeleh4839
    @chrishmeleh4839 Год назад

    Can you share the exact Alienware model you speak about ?

  • @r4plez
    @r4plez Год назад +2

    alienware has two damn fans inside and its loud :/

  • @Freelancer604
    @Freelancer604 Год назад +1

    0:29 was very unnecessary

  • @gloiremaliro5443
    @gloiremaliro5443 4 месяца назад

    Don't buy what 😂😂😂?
    First,
    Even though the G8 doesn't have G-Sync, it has good compatibility with RTX cards due to FreeSync.
    Secondly...
    Even though it only has mini ports, these cables are very affordable on Amazon...
    Finaly...
    the only real criterion between two screens is image quality. And on this point, the G8 is better than the Alienware 34...

  • @zyke612
    @zyke612 Год назад

    how to improve live? don't buy any samsung products. my first phone fell apart(samsung), my washer is literally corroding from water (samsung) and my old samsung gaming monitor died in 4 months.

  • @Bimbus2001
    @Bimbus2001 Год назад +15

    I used the Monitor for a couple of days but it has significant input lag compared to the Alienware. Another problem is the FreeSync can stutter like crazy. I wanted to keep this monitor very badly because of the looks but it just does not work for responsive and smooth gaming. Considering it is not cut out for office work or creative work, you should go for an LCD or the Alienware.

    • @gwphal
      @gwphal Год назад +2

      make sure to use game mode.

    • @Bimbus2001
      @Bimbus2001 Год назад +3

      @@gwphal Believe me, I did. It was still slow. The Alienware AW3423DWF runs completely different.

    • @zensaiy
      @zensaiy Год назад +14

      @@Bimbus2001 Placebo at its finest

    • @MattZCanada
      @MattZCanada Год назад

      Hey I have a AW3423DWF, I felt like some sort of input lag. Can you shed some light on the settings for the monitor and Windows? I have a AMD Gpu.

    • @Bimbus2001
      @Bimbus2001 Год назад

      If you run it at 165 Hz and Free Sync activated you should be good. Input lag increases with lower Hz and FPS count, but that is to be expected from most monitors.

  • @Fafa-js9rv
    @Fafa-js9rv Год назад

    How did you solve the problem of weird tv static ? Please

  • @tonysoprano3138
    @tonysoprano3138 11 месяцев назад

    Hi do you know if is possible to plug in my sound system to G8 via USB-C to 3.5mm and expect it to work (sound) properly?

  • @antonisgoudaras346
    @antonisgoudaras346 Год назад

    Did you select "game mode" before input lag test? It greatly reduces input lag and apparently you haven't done it..

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад

      Yes I did. And I have photos to prove it.

    • @chrisbeasley4727
      @chrisbeasley4727 Год назад +1

      Tried a friend of mines g8 that they just got. Monitor flickered a few times, had a line across the bottom randomly, stuttered on the UFO test (I'm sure it's some setting) so bad that I could even really tell if motion blur was good or not, and when trying at 120 I could feel input lag that I usually can't. But it did look good.

    • @UptownNYC
      @UptownNYC Год назад

      @@chrisbeasley4727 Clearly got a bad monitor. Return and replace thru Amazon/Best Buy until you get the perfect one. That's why you never buy these costly monitors off Ebay or third party shady vendors...

  • @RagingDork
    @RagingDork Год назад +1

    All Samsung products you should be careful of if you have to buy it get extended warranty.
    I’ve bought TVs, Monitors and appliances. Fridge lasted 6 months replaced with LG. Dishwasher lasted 3 months replaced with Bosch. The only thing from Samsung I had no problems with is the gas stove/oven. Bestbuy literally loses money on me with my extended warranties.

  • @andreaaglialoro6229
    @andreaaglialoro6229 9 месяцев назад

    I had a neo g9 49" monitor from samsung and within a year the panel went managed to get a refund, but probably won't be rolling the dice with samsung again based on your experience aswell.

  • @LukeBroadhurstfilm
    @LukeBroadhurstfilm Год назад

    What can I say. Samsung quality control still haven’t learned from the neo g9 and g7.
    Samsung monitors will forever have terrible quality control.

  • @WheeledHamster
    @WheeledHamster Год назад

    Don't see why the hell one would choose LG or Samsung over the Alienware since they're all in the same price range.

    • @shawtdusanshawt
      @shawtdusanshawt Год назад

      becuase of stupid Coil whine on F model...had 6 all have it

  • @fatihbulut9567
    @fatihbulut9567 Год назад

    Is there any monitor that you can recommend like 32" 4K glossy >120hz? Or any upcoming?

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад +1

      I’ll be on the lookout for some to review.

    • @UptownNYC
      @UptownNYC Год назад

      INNOCN 32" Mini LED 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 Computer Gaming Monitor 144Hz 1ms IPS HDR1000 HDMI 2.1 Monitor. It's on Amazon for $899 and in stock. There's also a glowing review on RUclips which loves this display... IF I hadn't already bought the G8 I would get the INNOCN.

    • @fatihbulut9567
      @fatihbulut9567 Год назад

      OLED would be perfect. That TCL monitor was amazing from the other video, but not for sale unfortunately

  • @MaxBaltzer
    @MaxBaltzer Год назад

    If it wasn't for the atrocious QC Samsung has I'd buy it in heartbeat, but seeing the problems the G7 has, nah thanks.

  • @martins9934
    @martins9934 Год назад

    Any chance to have review of KTC G42P5 - 42“ 4K OLED 138Hz, 0.1ms (GTG) Gaming Monitor in near future?

  • @torcheddreadnought899
    @torcheddreadnought899 Год назад +1

    34" curved...hard stop not interested. I'll stick around for the rest of the video to help the channel out.

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  Год назад

      😭 missed so much good info on other displays though.

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 Год назад +1

      @@thedisplayguy na, im a subscriber, i stop by for all the videos. Sooner or later that magic 27" 144hz+ QD/mini/micro OLED HIGH GLOSS 4k monitor will be a thing

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 Год назад +1

      @@torcheddreadnought899 You people stuck on 16:9 in 2023 are crazy....

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 Год назад

      @@drunkhusband6257 ultrawide suffers from the same issue that any monitor above 27" does, you have to move your head to focus on a detail (specifically that sniper that just got your buddy). Its all about choosing the right tool for your use case.

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 Год назад +2

      @@torcheddreadnought899 If you need to move your head to see the edges of a 34" ultrawide, you need to have your vision checked...

  • @Khalpen
    @Khalpen Год назад

    Well that confirms me buying an LG. Samsung appear to have many technical issues and very poor customer support. Samsung dead for me

  • @theoldpcgamer77
    @theoldpcgamer77 Год назад

    Not an e sport gamer myself but if I was the Asus lcd 1440p 360hz monitor has better motion than even the LG 240hz as shown by the HWU video.

  • @ployth9000
    @ployth9000 Год назад +1

    can you test the INNOCN 32" Mini LED 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 its basically a pg32uqx at $899 listed on amazon

  • @osobeltz
    @osobeltz Год назад

    Alienware monitor is HDMI 2.0, isn´t it?

  • @BladeRunnerJP11
    @BladeRunnerJP11 Год назад

    do you recommend the alienware qd oled monitor??? or the asus

  • @OscyJack-
    @OscyJack- Год назад

    Same as the aw. +Smart tv features.
    Kickass monitor. But not worth the extra $ over the aw unless you want smart features

    • @fueler5479
      @fueler5479 Год назад

      Thing i like about the G8 vs Alienware oled is that the G8 has a 10cm (depth) smaller footprint

    • @OscyJack-
      @OscyJack- Год назад

      @@fueler5479 based on the stock stands? Or the monitor itself.
      And for sure. They're all dope. Pick your poison you won't be disappointed. Love my aw

    • @fueler5479
      @fueler5479 Год назад

      @@OscyJack- when using stock stands (AW=30.571cm depth vs G8=19.28cm depth)

    • @OscyJack-
      @OscyJack- Год назад

      @@fueler5479 got it.
      Monitor arm would solve that ;). The g8 is sick. Not badmouthing it at all. And qdoled is the superior option as of now, for gaming, for sure.

  • @acgamecorp
    @acgamecorp Год назад +5

    Strange that you dont mention that this monitor is fanless, versus the alienware which has a loud fan

    • @UptownNYC
      @UptownNYC Год назад +8

      He is clearly an Alienware fanboy. You can tell because he doesn't even mention the Samsung TV/gamehub menu or any other positives. Just goes on a rant about Samsung QC issues and their past history. Which is meaningless if you get a perfect monitor out of the box (check the comments like others already have experienced). And if you do get unlucky just return/replace for a perfect one until you get the right one. That's what Amazon/Best Buy returns are meant for... 🙄

  • @cosmichi-fi3308
    @cosmichi-fi3308 Год назад +2

    Thanks for putting in the power consumption analysis. I don't want my electric bill to spike.

    • @Chrissage-Gaming
      @Chrissage-Gaming Год назад +9

      Your only running a monitor mate, not a factory lol! Watch out mate, it mite go up a couple of p lol!

    • @innocentiuslacrim2290
      @innocentiuslacrim2290 Год назад +3

      Extra 20-40W for a few hours a day (times 3 times 365). Perhaps 40 kWh annually. That is perhaps 4 EUR annually so 0,35 EUR per month. Give or take some percentage points?