The ENGINEER pliers are a great choice. I have a great pair of knipex locking pliers with a similar release mechanism yo the Stanley. It opens with a squeeze and the user is able to retain his grip and control of the pliers. This is quite a contrast to a typical release mechanism where the pliers open with a jolt and often fly out of the users hands. Once I used this style, I'll never go back to the typical release. I work around water and dropping pliers can be a bummer, to say the least. Thank's for the video!
FYI, Malco announced last November they are shutting down their plant in 2023 and selling off their inventory. They have no plans to make their products overseas. While their quality is very high, most people just aren't prepared to spend 4x the price compared to most of the competition. As a machinist, it's sad to see another American manufacturer shut down a plant. So many families in the small town of DeWitt NE will be affected.
I picked up a few of them, and want to get a few more before then. I don't expect them to be come collector's items, nor to increase in price, but you can't beat the value. They are inexpensive by comparison to lesser quality tools.
I do believe those Stanley/proto are rebranded grip-on pliers which are the same as gray snap on Just wish someone would rebrand there 45 degree needle nose but sadly not yet or nos og vise grips
Interesting paper weight or door stop ? Knipex makes quality locking pliers . I believe Malco discontinued their locking plier operation . There is a Spanish manufacturer that has traditional and a good selection of specialty locking pliers ,their name is Grip-on . Their on-line catalog is well informed . Your information is well appreciated . JP Tools handle Grip-On . 69/23
Vic! Grip on is going to be on my next locking pliers video, they are THOROUGH in their catalog choices, it's so good to know other people out there are keen on them. Good looking out mentioning them, and thanks for watching the vid!
Thanks for your nice comments. We are 100% Made in Spain Locking Pliers, CClamps & Beta Pins Manufacturer. Unique manufacturer using Epoxy resin, with the holest Range of Locking Pliers & Clamps
I'm going to add to the madness and toss out the 3.Peaks DS-200 for consideration. Japanese made, screw removal tip, jaws that are shaped to work on hex as well as other stuff, deep satin chrome for decent grip but lacking the comfort grips, and a Class 12.9 bolt with an 8mm hex socket on the end to really crank it down. They aren't going to win many points in affordability, but I love these things.
3 peaks is such a rad brand. Fujiya also makes some quality needle noses. While you are able to purchase Fujiya directly from Amazon USA, one has to go to Amazon Jp in order to purchase 3 peaks (other than one or two models available in Amazon US). Thank you for your comment, i might have to import some soon!
@@TheAircraftTechnician Yep that's where I got mine, regular American Amazon via the Amazon Japan global storefront! If you get em I hope they prove useful to you, cheers! I see they're listed as currently unavailable, they did have like 18 in stock a while back. I brought them up elsewhere online and I think people were like "whoa I gotta get me some of those" lol unless you snagged the last one.
Yes I have, and they have some applications where they are helpful, but for the most part the work I do doesn't require them as often as a locking pliers type. Once those fasteners are stripped, and if you don't want to drill them out, then the engineers with the Milwaukee screw on work perfect for me. I will say, the non locking type have a finer, more defined edge (tip) that doesn't require as much of the screw to be showing in order to gain a good grip.
That’s a good idea to put the Milwaukee screw into the Engineer. Do you have any of the wide/regular jaw Malco’s? It looks like the only ones Malco is still selling are the narrow jaw but they are both awesome pliers
Hey hey Brother. I don't personally own the regular jaw Malcos, but did find them for sale on Amazon, here's the 10" amzn.to/3J2Oil8 And the 7" amzn.to/3ZaFsHB You might also be able to use the set screw of the larger Milwaukee Torque locks on other pliers as well! I just didn't have them on hand in order to try. There's another video idea!
You forgot a pair. The most important ones too... the IRWIN IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP Original 4" Locking Wrench with Wire Cutter for break lines and bikes
Has anyone else used the LockJaw models, made by Sutton Tools? The LockJaw pressure control ‘Set and Forget’ locking mechanism - that allows the jaws to automatically adjust to any size object for fast and easy one-handed operation - is a far better solution than having to constantly adjust a knob.
So as you know Malco stopped making these pliers. Snap On ended up buying all the machinery from the factory and are making these pliers in one of their factories. They have come out with new pliers and from the sounds of it they are going to be bringing out a lot more.
cheap locking pliers have their place on the farm mostly as permanent install handles or clamps seen them welded on machinery before when the handle broke and literately left one attached to a well pump casing for 30 years because ever 2 years we'd pull it up service the pump and the pliers held it up in the air resting on a 2x4 until it when back in
Malco makes one of the best Vice grips out there. But they are expensive. If your a tool snob that is where you should go. There is rumor that they may stop making them.
Malco is AWESOME. Thankfully you can still find them, but yes afaik they will be shutting down operations and will stop making them. I have the narrow jaws and the normal jaws in 7". Perfect locking pliers
Subbed. I'm the 156th, and I'll put that engineer in my wishlist. Great review and comparison, your knowledge about the tools is awesome. The script and the voice over are all great. Can I have a suggestions? 1. The font you're choosing is unpleasant to read 2. Instead of company name text, why don't you put the actual company logo 3. I think some brown leather that looks like my grandmother sofas as a background isn't lift up the tools mood. haha 4. Please add more actual footage of you when you're using the tools. Anyway, Thank you :)
Well gosh darn it thank you for your honesty! I HAVE been considering a different background, but haven't made it yet (thinking weathered burnt wood. I'm not sure what the legalities are when it comes to using a company's logo, so I'll have to look into that before taking that step, but i like the idea! When it comes to the footage of work. Two things are impeding that. One, the GoPro Hero11 has surprisingly bad low light video quality, and i don't use light stands at work, most of use just use a head lamp. Two, there is a lot of red tape as to what can, and can't be shown when it comes to working for commercial airlines, so I'm going back and forth with some people in the company to see if I can get written permission. Unfortunately other techs may see this as favoritism or something like that, the industry can be a bit tricky, a little clique-ey, and the back stabbing is real. Gotta take care of my career above else. That's not to say i don't have some good stuff coming up! Thanks again for your suggestions and for aubbing, it is TRULY appreciated.
@@TheAircraftTechnician You're welcome. It doesn't have to be at work footage(though it would be cooler), at home footage would be fine. What I mean is how to avoid the "trust me bro, I'm an engineer" moment, only repeating what the tools marketing team said, and to avoid viewers boredome. If you show it in practice, us, the viewers can relate it more to our needs. It would help us not to buy junk tools, and would help you gain 1 million subs and 1 billion views. Haha. Looking forward to your next videos. Cheers :)
Video idea...show the bolt to get to replace the vampliers adjusting screw, then slot the hex and weld a washer in. Get elaborate...first lathe the hex round then knurl it and make the washer an oval by heating and squeezing...finish by heat treat and cad plate 😂
I love US tools but man o man, when you charge 3x or more the money in the name of "made in USA" it's a bit hard to swallow for essentially the same thing.
This is NOT an accurate test. You have completely ignored the original manufacturer VISE GRIP made in the US forever. I have many of these, a couple are well over 60 yrs old. I have NEVER had a failure of ANY of them and I am 74yrs old. You missed the mark completely sunshine. As with most tools you should NOT let price make your choice. If you buy right they will last you a lifetime. There will be people fighting over my Vise Grips when I am long gone and they will continue to serve for many years.
Vice grips aren't made in the US anymore. Production was sent to China. I have some of the originals, and your statement is true for those. I have a couple of the China made vice grips, and they are garbage.
@@Bogie3855 Vise Grips simply aren't the best for my line of work. They are great locking pliers, but if you watch the end of the video you will see what I chose, and why. Remember that I am looking at the reviews I make through the lens of my career of choice, and ultimately that determines my opinions on utility, performance, and value. I appreciate your input though, and I think healthy discourse like this is what makes America Great!
I love when other aircraft mechanics make helpful content like this 😁
What aircrafts do you work on Wacky? Cool channel!
The ENGINEER pliers are a great choice. I have a great pair of knipex locking pliers with a similar release mechanism yo the Stanley. It opens with a squeeze and the user is able to retain his grip and control of the pliers. This is quite a contrast to a typical release mechanism where the pliers open with a jolt and often fly out of the users hands. Once I used this style, I'll never go back to the typical release. I work around water and dropping pliers can be a bummer, to say the least. Thank's for the video!
I wish i had included Knipex in this video. Thanks for sharing the info, and for watching the channel!
FYI, Malco announced last November they are shutting down their plant in 2023 and selling off their inventory. They have no plans to make their products overseas. While their quality is very high, most people just aren't prepared to spend 4x the price compared to most of the competition.
As a machinist, it's sad to see another American manufacturer shut down a plant. So many families in the small town of DeWitt NE will be affected.
I picked up a few of them, and want to get a few more before then. I don't expect them to be come collector's items, nor to increase in price, but you can't beat the value. They are inexpensive by comparison to lesser quality tools.
Hello Aircraft Tech
I just found your channel and subscribed. I too am a Aircraft Mechanic. Thank you for the locking pliers review. Again thank you 😊
That's awesome George, are you in the US?
@The Aircraft Tech Yes and you?
Absolutely my friend.
I do believe those Stanley/proto are rebranded grip-on pliers which are the same as gray snap on
Just wish someone would rebrand there 45 degree needle nose but sadly not yet or nos og vise grips
I don't know, but if they are that's cool!
Interesting paper weight or door stop ? Knipex makes quality locking pliers . I believe Malco discontinued their locking plier operation . There is a Spanish manufacturer that has
traditional and a good selection of specialty locking pliers ,their name is Grip-on . Their on-line catalog is well informed . Your information is well appreciated . JP Tools handle Grip-On . 69/23
Sorry , it is JB Tools .
Vic! Grip on is going to be on my next locking pliers video, they are THOROUGH in their catalog choices, it's so good to know other people out there are keen on them. Good looking out mentioning them, and thanks for watching the vid!
Thanks for your nice comments. We are 100% Made in Spain Locking Pliers, CClamps & Beta Pins Manufacturer. Unique manufacturer using Epoxy resin, with the holest Range of Locking Pliers & Clamps
I'm going to add to the madness and toss out the 3.Peaks DS-200 for consideration. Japanese made, screw removal tip, jaws that are shaped to work on hex as well as other stuff, deep satin chrome for decent grip but lacking the comfort grips, and a Class 12.9 bolt with an 8mm hex socket on the end to really crank it down.
They aren't going to win many points in affordability, but I love these things.
3 peaks is such a rad brand. Fujiya also makes some quality needle noses. While you are able to purchase Fujiya directly from Amazon USA, one has to go to Amazon Jp in order to purchase 3 peaks (other than one or two models available in Amazon US).
Thank you for your comment, i might have to import some soon!
Found it on Amazon US! THREE PEAKS Daiya type Vise DS-200T a.co/d/6yuOmnR
@@TheAircraftTechnician Yep that's where I got mine, regular American Amazon via the Amazon Japan global storefront! If you get em I hope they prove useful to you, cheers!
I see they're listed as currently unavailable, they did have like 18 in stock a while back. I brought them up elsewhere online and I think people were like "whoa I gotta get me some of those" lol unless you snagged the last one.
Have you tried the vamplier/engineer non-locking screw removal pliers? Does the locking plier version work better for removing screws?
Yes I have, and they have some applications where they are helpful, but for the most part the work I do doesn't require them as often as a locking pliers type. Once those fasteners are stripped, and if you don't want to drill them out, then the engineers with the Milwaukee screw on work perfect for me.
I will say, the non locking type have a finer, more defined edge (tip) that doesn't require as much of the screw to be showing in order to gain a good grip.
That’s a good idea to put the Milwaukee screw into the Engineer. Do you have any of the wide/regular jaw Malco’s? It looks like the only ones Malco is still selling are the narrow jaw but they are both awesome pliers
Hey hey Brother.
I don't personally own the regular jaw Malcos, but did find them for sale on Amazon, here's the 10"
amzn.to/3J2Oil8
And the 7"
amzn.to/3ZaFsHB
You might also be able to use the set screw of the larger Milwaukee Torque locks on other pliers as well! I just didn't have them on hand in order to try. There's another video idea!
You forgot a pair. The most important ones too... the IRWIN
IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP Original 4" Locking Wrench with Wire Cutter for break lines and bikes
Has anyone else used the LockJaw models, made by Sutton Tools? The LockJaw pressure control ‘Set and Forget’ locking mechanism - that allows the jaws to automatically adjust to any size object for fast and easy one-handed operation - is a far better solution than having to constantly adjust a knob.
Oh boy! Those look awesome! Might need to pick them up to try them out
So as you know Malco stopped making these pliers. Snap On ended up buying all the machinery from the factory and are making these pliers in one of their factories. They have come out with new pliers and from the sounds of it they are going to be bringing out a lot more.
Great review, grabbing some of those Huskys on my next trip to the Depot.
Lol! Need a doorstop?
cheap locking pliers have their place on the farm mostly as permanent install handles or clamps seen them welded on machinery before when the handle broke and literately left one attached to a well pump casing for 30 years because ever 2 years we'd pull it up service the pump and the pliers held it up in the air resting on a 2x4 until it when back in
Sooooooo many other uses instead of a doorstop!
I love it!
Also used as a shift lever on the farm bike !
Sweet video, was excited to watch more of your vids but you don’t have many haha let’s see some more!
Just started the channel and I've been away from my home base doing recurring training, more vids coming up this coming Thursday!
Are the Stanley proto made by Grip-On because they make the Locking pliers for channel lock that's new on the market say made in Spain
They might be although I haven't found anything to confirm it
@@TheAircraftTechnician this point now as long as they're made well with good quality components that's all that matters
Malco makes one of the best Vice grips out there. But they are expensive. If your a tool snob that is where you should go. There is rumor that they may stop making them.
Malco is AWESOME. Thankfully you can still find them, but yes afaik they will be shutting down operations and will stop making them. I have the narrow jaws and the normal jaws in 7". Perfect locking pliers
Correct.
Subbed. I'm the 156th, and I'll put that engineer in my wishlist.
Great review and comparison, your knowledge about the tools is awesome.
The script and the voice over are all great. Can I have a suggestions?
1. The font you're choosing is unpleasant to read
2. Instead of company name text, why don't you put the actual company logo
3. I think some brown leather that looks like my grandmother sofas as a background isn't lift up the tools mood. haha
4. Please add more actual footage of you when you're using the tools.
Anyway, Thank you :)
Well gosh darn it thank you for your honesty!
I HAVE been considering a different background, but haven't made it yet (thinking weathered burnt wood.
I'm not sure what the legalities are when it comes to using a company's logo, so I'll have to look into that before taking that step, but i like the idea!
When it comes to the footage of work. Two things are impeding that. One, the GoPro Hero11 has surprisingly bad low light video quality, and i don't use light stands at work, most of use just use a head lamp.
Two, there is a lot of red tape as to what can, and can't be shown when it comes to working for commercial airlines, so I'm going back and forth with some people in the company to see if I can get written permission. Unfortunately other techs may see this as favoritism or something like that, the industry can be a bit tricky, a little clique-ey, and the back stabbing is real. Gotta take care of my career above else. That's not to say i don't have some good stuff coming up!
Thanks again for your suggestions and for aubbing, it is TRULY appreciated.
@@TheAircraftTechnician You're welcome. It doesn't have to be at work footage(though it would be cooler), at home footage would be fine.
What I mean is how to avoid the "trust me bro, I'm an engineer" moment, only repeating what the tools marketing team said, and to avoid viewers boredome.
If you show it in practice, us, the viewers can relate it more to our needs. It would help us not to buy junk tools, and would help you gain 1 million subs and 1 billion views. Haha.
Looking forward to your next videos. Cheers :)
Great review!
Thank you!
For screw extraction, recently i have discovered the 3.Peaks brand. They are better than Engineer.
No Facom 500 series locking pliers then?
Not in this video! They might have to make an appearance on an updated video in the near future.
@@TheAircraftTechnician Truly an excellent bit of kit 😉
I have two Facom 501A and they are brilliant. I love them.
Also have 2 Eaglegrips 10" and 2 Gedore 137P.
Video idea...show the bolt to get to replace the vampliers adjusting screw, then slot the hex and weld a washer in. Get elaborate...first lathe the hex round then knurl it and make the washer an oval by heating and squeezing...finish by heat treat and cad plate 😂
No knipex ?????.....why
I love US tools but man o man, when you charge 3x or more the money in the name of "made in USA" it's a bit hard to swallow for essentially the same thing.
*promo sm*
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Hack…
This is NOT an accurate test. You have completely ignored the original manufacturer VISE GRIP made in the US forever. I have many of these, a couple are well over 60 yrs old. I have NEVER had a failure of ANY of them and I am 74yrs old. You missed the mark completely sunshine. As with most tools you should NOT let price make your choice. If you buy right they will last you a lifetime. There will be people fighting over my Vise Grips when I am long gone and they will continue to serve for many years.
Vice grips aren't made in the US anymore. Production was sent to China. I have some of the originals, and your statement is true for those. I have a couple of the China made vice grips, and they are garbage.
@@Bogie3855 Vise Grips simply aren't the best for my line of work. They are great locking pliers, but if you watch the end of the video you will see what I chose, and why.
Remember that I am looking at the reviews I make through the lens of my career of choice, and ultimately that determines my opinions on utility, performance, and value. I appreciate your input though, and I think healthy discourse like this is what makes America Great!
@TheAircraftTechnician vice grips are made in China now, the malco eagles are far superior pliers. They're made on original vice grip machining.