How to thermally UNCOUPLE your concrete slab.

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    Jake talks foundation details of this slab on grade home. He shows how to thermally uncouple from the ground and perimeter.
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  • @bobcat2222
    @bobcat2222 2 года назад +6

    A stone countertop that feels colder is not “emitting temperature back to you”. What is happening is the stone is taking some heat from your hand via conduction. Stone at room temp 72F is colder than your hand (somewhat under 98F). Heat moves from hot to cold or rather from more to less. Temperature is a measure of heat. It doesn’t get emitted. Cold is the absence of heat so it also doesn’t emit.

  • @lexiecrewther7038
    @lexiecrewther7038 Год назад

    Insulation does not "uncouple". It just delays the thermal transfer for an hour per inch. 6 inch foam delays heat transfer by 6hrs. By morning, an insulated house without heating is EXACTLY the same temperature as outside. Then it will take 6hrs to heat up again

  • @AntsAasma
    @AntsAasma 2 года назад +7

    "We can't completely solve that issue" - actually you can if you put hydronic heating into the slab. Can't beat the comfort and energy efficiency of underfloor heating.

    • @frankp9573
      @frankp9573 2 года назад

      True but he said it was a rental so this is a cheaper method. I think that's what he meant

  • @franklinmade396
    @franklinmade396 2 года назад +2

    Did you continue the same details under door openings? I can see some form work in the video that appears the details may change under the door threshold.

  • @ncbarndobuild
    @ncbarndobuild 2 года назад

    Do you tie the slab to the footing or stem wall with a cold joint? Getting ready to do something very similar here in NC.

  • @Adesico87
    @Adesico87 2 года назад

    Jake!! Come build in south Johnson County Kansas!!

  • @thervmodman1038
    @thervmodman1038 2 года назад +8

    I understand the footing but would like to know is how deep is your footing pour not including your 2x10s.
    Thank you!

    • @bamc3835
      @bamc3835 2 года назад +3

      same question..hope he responds

    • @joshgrobe3608
      @joshgrobe3608 2 года назад

      Frost depth

  • @Boscovius
    @Boscovius 2 года назад

    So the takeaway is that by insulating a slab-on-grade in the prescribed manner, substantial heat savings and comfort gains may be had prior to taking the next step of intalling in-slab hydronic heating.

  • @BK-fy2xi
    @BK-fy2xi 2 года назад +1

    So how high do you run the sidewall insulation? It looks like they have concrete all the way to the footing.

  • @billwilljulz
    @billwilljulz Год назад

    Jake, is a perimeter French drain added to this foundation? How does one go about installing that with the “trench forming” method?

  • @ericwotton2046
    @ericwotton2046 2 года назад

    Simple!!

  • @w7834
    @w7834 2 года назад

    I've got a house with a bomb shelter for a basement, a 6" slab covers the entire basement with 2x6 on sleepers and 1-1/2" of plywood for the first floor deck over the top of that. The first floor deck gets cooold in the winter and I need to remedy that in the near future.
    I am wondering if I could remove the first floor deck, add 2"-4" of foam insulation to the top of bomb shelter/basement cap and then pour the remainder in 4"-6" of concrete?

  • @randyanderson1983
    @randyanderson1983 Год назад

    I didn’t know ACI had pumps still going a year ago? Or has someone bought that 46m and not re-stickerEd the truck?

  • @te1ephraq
    @te1ephraq 2 года назад +1

    So the outside concrete is load bearing from the walls and it is not connected to the slab? Would not it be weakened compared to solid foundation?

    • @Zorlig
      @Zorlig 2 года назад +1

      Not really, the footing is what holds the weight

  • @John-tq4bf
    @John-tq4bf 2 года назад

    Did I see in floor heating?

  • @kevinmickelson5128
    @kevinmickelson5128 2 года назад

    I unserdtand decoupling the edge of the slad as the concrete edge is exposed to the weather, in this video negative 9 degrees. What i am struggling with is the necessity in insulating below the slab due to the average earth temperature under a slab being 55 degrees. it seems like there is not much bang for the buck because that 2 inch eps is expensive.

    • @imwteach
      @imwteach 2 года назад

      You are still getting a minimum -15 delta that you will loose heat 24/7 365 days a year!

    • @davefoc
      @davefoc 2 года назад

      I thought the idea might be that the temperature of the ground next to the foundation is cooled significantly by heat transfer through the foundation and heat transfer from the ground outside the foundation.

    • @kevinmickelson5128
      @kevinmickelson5128 2 года назад

      @@imwteach I'm not sure a 15 degree delta is worth the cost or trouble. The wall insulation is battling a 50 dgree delta so that cost makes sense.

    • @imwteach
      @imwteach 2 года назад +1

      @@kevinmickelson5128 Still, a 15 degree delta over the life of the home makes it worthwhile to insulate. After living in our current home for 12 years with in slab radiant heat I wouldn't have anything else...I also wish I had placed more insulation under the slab. I currently have 2" of Styrofoam and should have gone 4 or 6!

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 2 года назад

      Insulating foam glass aggregate such as Aeroaggregates will not breakdown like a petro-chemical foam... and allows drainage so it replace most of the stone aggregate...

  • @jesseh2302
    @jesseh2302 2 года назад

    I’m in climate zone 2 so really nobody insulates slabs, but I have concrete floors and the west side of the house has a concrete porch that is connected and you can definitely feel the heat come through the slab if you’re barefoot. My question is this though. Is there a way to pour the slab all at once and insulate? I can just imagine the look from my concrete subcontractor if I told him we were going to pour separate days…

    • @imwteach
      @imwteach 2 года назад

      Build with Insulated Concrete Form blocks and you solve several problems at once

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 2 года назад

      Have the contractor add the depth of your insulation to the total outside measurements and add the insulation to the inside of the form. I also added large screws into the foam to couple the foam tot he concrete. That’s how I did a frost protected shallow foundation. Super easy.

    • @billwilljulz
      @billwilljulz Год назад

      @@bpdp379 I plan to do the same thing. May I ask, did you use a “protective coating” outside of the insulation? If so, what did you use?

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 Год назад +1

      @@billwilljulz not below grade. Above grade I did add a flat stock metal flashing to protect the foam from UV light and physical damage like weed whackers and such.

    • @bpdp379
      @bpdp379 Год назад

      That was added after the pour.

  • @craigslist04
    @craigslist04 2 года назад +4

    A lot of words for... insulate bottom and sides.

  • @noreaction1
    @noreaction1 2 года назад

    Now how do we seal the foundation from water and ice?

  • @MrSparkums
    @MrSparkums 2 года назад

    Basically turns the slab into an energy battery..

  • @10tenman10
    @10tenman10 2 года назад

    15 mil poly membrane then a 2" closed cell insulation (taped) then 4 inches of concrete. I like the insulation but shouldn't the footers be insulated too?

  • @acevirginian2203
    @acevirginian2203 2 года назад

    What happens when the bottom foam gets squished into a pancake? Not much insulation then.
    You just have to have a crawlspace or need some other substrate...under the slab.

    • @DT-vc7hd
      @DT-vc7hd 2 года назад

      I was wondering about this myself -- would like to hear the Build Show address this.

    • @intoxigated
      @intoxigated 2 года назад +15

      CS(10/Y) - amount of pressure needed for 10% deflection of average XPS is ~ 300 kpa = 300 kN/m² = 30 t/m².
      Unless your main building material is lead you would be having hard time "squishing it into pancake".

    • @daveklein2826
      @daveklein2826 2 года назад +2

      Will never happen

    • @Superwoodputtie
      @Superwoodputtie 2 года назад +3

      This is an issue for certain types of foam, but xps should be able to take the weight.

    • @acevirginian2203
      @acevirginian2203 2 года назад +2

      @@Superwoodputtie Thanks for that info gentlemen. very useful info.
      only reason I was against slab was that... cold plus moisture... if those are resolved, I am sold to the idea.
      do elaborate on exactly what type of XPS is best suited... please.