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Why was Disney-MGM Studios Renamed?
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2017
- “It’ll always be MGM Studios to me!” It’s a common phrase we often hear from longtime Disney World fans who remember the days when Disney World’s third park, Disney’s Hollywood Studios, was called Disney-MGM Studios. But why was that it’s name to begin with, and why did it change?
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Disney MGM Studios was born from EPCOT in more ways than one. As the origin story goes, Disney was initially planning to create two new pavilions in Future World. One was going to be about the human body, and would eventually become The Wonders of Live pavilion. The other was going to be a Great Movie Ride pavilion, which would look like a film soundstage, have a movie-theater facade, and focus on, as expected, the film industry.
When he saw the idea CEO Michael Eisner felt that there was enough potential in the film pavilion concept that he thought it could act as a centerpiece for a whole third park, which would be themed around the movies.
On top of that Eisner was just eager to build and open a third theme park. Disney had seen with the opening of EPCOT in 1982 that average stay length for guests doubled. That meant guests spent more money not just on park entry, but on food and hotels as well. Lastly, Disney wanted to be prepared to take on MCA, who were looking to build a Universal Studios in Orlando to compete with Disney. To that end, a theme park centered around Hollywood would be the perfect foil to MCA’s plans.
There was just one problem: Disney’s film library wasn’t as nearly a well rounded as Universal’s was. Sure, Disney was synonymous with classic animation and wholesome family entertainment, but Universal was a Hollywood staple that had films that ranged from classics like Frankenstein, to masterpieces like Hitchcock’s Psycho, to modern action blockbusters like Jaws. Believe it or not, Disney was outmatched.
So they decided to turn to another studio to partner with. It would have to be a studio with as much of a celebrated history in Hollywood as Universal. Enter MGM.
Disney worked out a contract with MGM in 1985 and it was pretty amazing for Disney. According to “The Disney Touch” by Ron Grover, Disney essentially had free reign of MGM’s film and name rights for the park, and all for almost nothing. The deal had Disney paying MGM $100k a year for first three years and $250k for the fourth year. For every year after that the fee would go up an additional $50k, capping out at a million dollars. So what’s that mean? It means over the full 20 years of the deal, Disney would pay a total of 11.3 million dollars to MGM. Now, to us that’s a lot of money, but to put it in perspective, in 1989 Disney Parks and Resorts made that much money in less than two days.
Apparently MGM owner and billionaire Kirk Kerkorian was unaware of the deal with Disney until after it was finalized, and he was not too happy to hear how much Disney was getting for such a low price. So while the deal went through, it started on rocky ground.
In fact, before the park even opened, MGM sued Disney, claiming that Disney violated their contract by operating a functional studio at the park donning their name. In turn Disney filed a counter-suit, stating that MGM was violating the contract by planning to open an MGM park in Las Vegas. In 1992 a judge ruled that Disney could continue to produce content at the theme park and use the Disney-MGM name in it. He also ruled that MGM had the right to build a theme park in Las Vegas and use the MGM name and logo, as long as it wasn’t themed after a movie studio like Disney’s park.
So, with bad blood between them, a couple of lawsuits, and a licensing deal that Disney was surely not going to get lucky with again, it came as no surprise when Disney decided not to try and renew their agreement towards the end of the 20-year deal. In August of 2007 it was announced that the park would be renamed to Disney’s Hollywood Studios the following year in 2008, 19 years after the park opened.
Beyond that, there’s an argument to be made that Disney didn’t really need MGM anymore. In the time since Michael Eisner had stepped in as CEO, Disney’s approach to the film industry had been renewed and rounded out. Disney experienced a renaissance in animation, and new subsidiary studios were producing films that Disney wouldn’t have even considered making in the past. Sure they weren’t Hollywood classics yet, but with the park generally leaning away from the backlot approach anyway, it didn’t seem to matter.
Today the park is undergoing even more change, and is expected to see its name replaced once again. Luckily though, as Disney fans, we don’t need eleven million dollars to keep calling it MGM Studios.
I'm still salty over the closing of "Animation Academy". That was such a cool hidden gem, where an animator would teach you how to draw different characters, and you could bring your drawing home.
I loved the Animation Academy! I will always remember how to draw a mickey face 😂
I never got to go that I just saw it on full house
@@byakuyatogami2905 IKR? Don't they realize why many people, even to this very day, are behaving like...dare I say it, "spoiled brats" after what happened?!
You can hate him all you want, but the first 15 years of Eisner were amazing, he saved Disney and made it the theme park giant it is today.
AMagicProduction I said the same but rob didn't like mine 😂😂
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Agreed I think micheal Eisner is a better ceo than bob Iger
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I loved Sunday nights on Tv with Michael Eisner.
It will always be MGM Studios to me. This park is the reason why I got into the film industry. So much nostalgia and love for this park.
I'm with you...but I miss the OLD park....it's getting to "fad" than it once was and is being taken over by certain movies like Star Wars
They've lost One Man's Dream the Backlot and the playground I use to play for hours in and Lights Motors Action and the Great Movie Ride...there isn't even any special holiday celebrations anymore...no Backlot means no Osborn Family Light Spectacular
Even the old water tower has been replaced TWICE as the park logo
It's lost the magic IMHO and is my least favorite park that I don't lose any sleep over not visiting if we only have time to hit 2 or 3...I like some of the rides and shows but it's just faded too much from what it was to what it is
Really like your content man, I don't know if I've ever commented before, but its great! And yea its always gonna be MGM Studios is our mind. I've been doing some research for our video this week and found out that Disney tarnished the relationship with MGM even more through the Great Movie Ride in wanting to use even more Wizard of Oz content then the original contract stated.
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I'm really saddened by the change in focus at MGM/Hollywood studios from a focus on filmmaking to a focus on Disney's IPs. I get it from a business standpoint, but I can't help but take it personally. As a child, a visit to MGM studios gave me so much inspiration and motivation that I now work in the film industry today. It's hard to let that go. :/
Hungry Creature Productions I understand your disappointment. This was the first WDW park to be built and opened in my lifetime. I have fond memories of participating in the special effects tour and the sound show. However, this park didn't abandon its concept; the concept abandoned the park. The sound stages weren't in use, the animation building was abandoned, and since then rides and shows have just been shutting down with no viable replacements for them that fit the go-behind-the-scenes theme. The backlot was just a boneyard of unused movie props that would never be used again. Nothing has been produced behind the scenes of this park since 2004. There was a time when a film and TV production park made sense, but that time is over and will probably never come back. We can't just let it become a monument to old ideas, we have to look to the future.
I think ultimately the issue is that the idea of a studio park just isn't relevant anymore. When it opened, going behind the scenes and seeing how films and shows were made was a novel concept. In the age of information this isn't an exciting idea anymore to the masses. We already know how film is made. The concept feels outdated now, too old to be fresh and exciting to the masses, but too new to be a classic. It would be nice if they could have stuck with that original concept, but they chose an original concept that wasn't timeless, so the park soon became outdated.
While I will miss the Hollywood backlot concept (MGM has always been my favorite park), I think that the new focus is still true to what this park is supposed to be - an experience where guests get to go *inside* the movie magic! Times have changed, partnerships have changed, technology has changed, and an update is necessary. Ultimately, though, what we are going to get is even more immersive than Hollywood Studios ever has been before. What I have always loved about the park is getting to have a role in the magic - and now I really will be able to!
isn't that what Universal is?
Well, if you REALLY want a park like MGM Studious, you can always go to Disneyland Paris' second park.
I'm so pissed they are getting rid of the great movie ride. It's like the very essence of Hollywood Studios!!
Yeah, if that ride goes, so does Hollywood studios as we know it. Bad enough the backlot tour and the stunt show are gone. I suspect Indiana Jones isn't far behind.
I wonder if they are going to change the park and name to something else entirely?
AGREED, but I see why, it is always a near walk on and even more with the new crowds to the Star Wars expansion, they need something else to gather some of that crowd, and I feel DHS is a more thrill ride type park with more of an adult appeal (outside of Star Wars of course)
It was one of the few rides that made me want to head to the other coast and visit WDW (I'm a Disneyland native and longtime passholder). I am really sad that now I will never get the chance! However, on the bright side, the idea of a Mickey Mouse ride sounds awesome! If your going to loose a classic, that's a great alternative to loose it too! At least one of your classics isn't being torn down for some modern franchise that's yet to prove itself as having staying power *cough* Guardians of the Galaxy *cough*
It's VERY possible. The name change is absolutely coming.
Hey explaining names is my job! Great stuff though mate :) I really like your videos!
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Ah the memories. I worked at MGM Grand Adventures Theme Park in Las Vegas in 96', when I was in high school. It was a big deal back then, it was the biggest amusement park on the strip. And while the parents were gambling on the strip, it was a place where kids could ride and play all day.
The funny part is that I often just called it "the studios," so it made the adjustment from Disney MGM Studios to Disney's Hollywood Studios much easier for me because I can still use the same phrase to refer to it.
As a veteran of theme park employment when the MGM Grand theme park opened, I knew from my first visit that the park would tank - there was a limited number of rides, too many retail shops & places to eat.
The park was about 35 acres, had only 7 rides, with 4 theaters - so no real reason to be a multiday park but as a place to leave the kiddos whilst you gambled (and then met up with them every few hours). Later on a handfull of "carny rides" were added (with some being only temporoary), in 1996 they added a skycoaster - causing 3 rides and one theater to be removed. So honestly ride number was always lacking.
The main issue though was the weather, as somebody who has ever visted Las Vegas can tell you - we get very hot in the summer and unlike SIx Flags Magic Mountain in Valencia (SoCal) wich has copious amounts of misters to cool the guests down - MGM lacked sufficient amounts of said misters.
Overall MGM was never fully invested in the concept and after sufficient money loss, they shuttered the park less than a decade of operation. Eventually razing the park and putting up timeshares.
By comparision, The Adventuredome at Circus Circus in Las Vegas (where I worked for 11 years) also opened in 1993, it was 5 acres under a temperature controlled dome with 3 rides and a laser tag but unlike MGM Grand was similar to Disney as it was a ticket based park with admission being a few bucks (eventually being free with the advent of the all day wristband).
The major difference in my opinion is that the upper management had previous theme park experience and were able to make incremental changes that improved the park without causing upper casino management peroblems until it became a viable department of the hotel/casino unto itself and they were given greater freedom to do things.
The kids and I went in 2000 or 2001 and it was the most boring park. Other than the Aerosmith roller coaster, there was pretty much nothing there. Drew Carey making noises? Seriously how did that become an attraction? We went back for Spring Break every year for the next 10 years and never once even thought of going back to MGM.
One thing I keep forgetting about this park is that the drawing class is no longer open. It would especially have been nice to be able to draw Louis the Alligator there, had the majority not unfortunately picked Buzz Lightyear instead, while we were voting between the two characters. Had it been just me and my dad there, it would have been a tie, and then I'd probably get to draw Louis with the teacher, while my dad would have gotten to draw Buzz with him.
My family and I still call it MGM Studios sometimes, honestly. And I'm really sad they got rid of The Great Movie Ride, I'm not a ride person but that was always one of my favorites.
It will always be MGM to me. I still miss the Backlot Tour & the Osborne Lights with the glasses.
meleniumshane90 I never liked calling it "MGM." Even as a kid it didn't sound right to me. Calling Hollywood Studios "MGM" would be like calling the Magic Kingdom "Song of the South" or calling Epcot "Western Europe"; it only describes one or two things that are technically present in the park, but not by name.
meleniumshane90 me too magic kingdom is is eastern Disneyland
Why does everyone hate Eisner he saved Disney and gave us great classic movies and built arguably the best park in disney
Well, he also was responsible for the slew of Direct to DVD sequels from the mid 90s to late 2000s.
That and he kicked out Roy E Disney from the company. Threatened To take Pixar away and create direct to DVD Pixar sequels. Bought the Muppets and did nothing with them. Threatened to shut down Walt Disney Animation in 2005, almost canceled pirates of the Caribbean and launched DCA to an abysmal reception and not refurbish many of the parks rides in Any Disney Park. That's why a lot of people hate him
Eisner's first 10 years at the helm was fantastic, but when Disneyland Paris tanked and Frank Wells passed away, plus his refusal to promote Jeff Katzenberg signaled the beginning of his slow decline. When Eisner decided to go after Roy E. Disney that was the last straw for many and he was ousted by shareholders.
I respect Eisner and the good things he did for Disney. But he also started the trend to charge for everything at Disney destinations. Everything Disney has become more expensive after him. Aside from that, some of what Eisner did was NOT in the best interest of the shareholders and his compensation over the years was... How can I say it?... too big and decided by himself.
Because Eisner was a great Idea man, but his eyes were bigger than his stomach. And it's clear in a lot of cases his ego won over making smart business decisions that cost Disney more money in the long run.
One thing really confused me. I watched a vacation planning video of WDW from 1995 here on RUclips. It called the park 'Disney Studios'. I used to own the VHS cassette of the video, and that one named the park 'Disney-MGM Studios'. I'm sure that was during the lawsuit drama, but it still confused me that there were two different versions of the same vacation planning video.
Triple upload I'm soooooooo happpppy with alll these uploads
Me too! I'm going to try and keep it consistent at 2 per week for a while, with one being more history/fact focused, and the other being more opinion/Q&A focused.
I really miss the old MGM; back lot tour, the great movie ride, even lights motors action. this was my favorite park as a child. It just doesn’t have the same feel as it did then.
Hollywood studios or MGM is my favorite park mostly because the atmosphere of the park. My favorite ride is tower of terror but sadly it's getting removed in Disney land
it already got removed Guardians is now open
I'm a Disneyland Resort native, and Tower was my favorite ride in California Adventure. I'm sad to see it go! Guess I will just live at The Enchanted Tiki Room forever which is my ultimate favorite ride!
Only at Disneyland, the original is still open!
I always tease my parents when they say "MGM Studios" XP But they've pretty much gotten use to saying "Hollywood Studios" by now.
I recommend making a playlist of DSNY Newscast and Rob Plays. All you have to do is listen and not even see the video. I listen to that playlist all the time.
It's still MGM and it's still Downtown Disney.
WaKo_b0i Ehy is it Disney springs?!?!?! Nothing was wrong
Not anymore buddy
informative as always + great editing !!
I was there in April 2013 and have a picture of the (now gone) Earful Tower with no logo whatsoever during the changeover.
Awesome video Rob! Keep it up love your history content of Walts Biography!! 😄
I actually went to that MGM park in Las Vegas in 1996. The rides weren't bad and there was never a line for any of them. I figured it was closed because they thought running the casino would be more profitable.
You should do a video about the actual floor plans of the rides, the staff spaces or underground tunnels! Very interesting videos keep up the good work :)
I used to incorrectly assume that MGM was a subsidiary of Disney because of this park. But when I noticed that some movies originally under the MGM banner were later being sold under the Warner Brothers banner, the whole arrangement confused me as it didn’t seem to make any sense. Especially since MGM has gone through a few bankruptcies
One of my favorite games is spotting the back of my head in your b-roll.
My first visit was in June of 2007, when it was still MGM Studios and I didn't go back down again until March of 2009 when it became Hollywood Studios. Like I still remember the idea of it being MGM Studios, but I came more frequently when it was Hollywood Studios so that's what I'm used to calling it
And according to a recent survey Disney has been sending to people, apparently Disney is considering changing the park's name yet again...Which I guess would make sense, since the park is getting further and further away from its original studio based theme with the upcoming additions of Toy Story Land and Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge.
When we first went to that park, it was great...Over the years it just got old.......Nothing new coming into the park. Now...it may get the 'shot in the arm' it has desperately needed over the many years.
I remember the Vegas park. directly behind the MGM Grand they built a movie theme park.
it was spare, weakly executed. nobody walked away impressed or wanted to go back. circus circus was more impressive.
during the 90s Vegas, at least the strip, was aimed for family friendly. they tried all kinds of things to get it to be a Disney Land with gambling before the 2001 campaign of "what stays in Vegas" and thru that out the door.
I will call it MGM until the day I die, it is so deeply ingrained in my brain that it's called MGM that when i'm talking to people about the park and they give me a confused look when I refer to it by it's CORRECT name I get confused and have to backtrack.
It will always be MGM to me as well. Great video 😀
i love the sounds and videos you end your videos with! very relaxing and like you're at the park
If i had a time machine I would go back and ride loads of classic theme park rides
I still make the "MGM" slip!
The first problem was in disney's and mgm's partnership that in 1986 ted turner acquired the pre-1986 mgm library, so they could not use the theme of the wizard of oz movie nor tom and jerry and others (sorry for my english)
Love the ambient footage at the end, any chance of ever uploading just the footage from all the Disney park ambient shots you've taken?
To this day I still call it MGM studios. I just cant get it out if my mind ever since I was little.
So that explains why Disney Hollywood Studios was called Disney MGM Studios before the name change. I've always wondered about that.
I never made it in time for it to be mgm studios, my first trip was when I was 4 in January 2008.
California Adventure is the park that needs a name change.
I know Disney said that the park isn’t gonna be renamed again anytime soon, but I feel like after recent events, should Disney decide to rename the park again, it should be renamed to Disney Fox Studios.
Your videos are terrific! I'm enjoying binge-watching them!
As someone who has no nostalgia for the MGM Studios days, I actually think Hollywood Studios makes more sense as to show that it's a general Hollywood-themed park, not just focused on MGM.
Hi Rob---as an idea for a potential video, we thought it would be pretty neat to cover how a modern "ticket book" might be broken up (i.e. "A Attractions" to "E Attractions.") We'd love to see your thoughts on this, not just for Magic Kingdom, but for all the parks. Thanks so much, Rob for all your thought-filled content. You're magical!
Oooh, that's a really interesting idea!
We would love to see you do it---thanks for considering it, Rob!
Can't believe they no longer do this...I got to ride an animatronic bee from "honey I shrunk the kids" then they superimposed me into the actual movie.dad got to be a boat captain in a storm where they had explosions and waves ...n catastrophe canyon was incredible.. sad to see it go
i dont get why they got rid of the great movie ride since that was literally the whole focus/theme of the park and it was an opening day attraction...
memethyst It was full of movies they aren't making money from.
Licensing fees and copyright statues began to creep up so the ride's cost is not just in its operation and maintenance, but also in its name and the scenes/theme in it.
I remember calling it MGM Studios in the park one day and still the workers tell you it's NOT MGM Studios. It shows they are probably coached to say that.
A lot of promotional materials actually even called it The Disney Studios or Disney Studios Florida.
When I was a kid I thought it stood for "Mickey's Got Money"
learn something new every day thank rob
4:46 yea, it’s 2021 and the name is still Hollywood Studios
Hey Rob, all that b-roll is paying off...lol. Nice video!!!
And that's just with my vacation footage! If I ever move down to Florida I'm building myself a virtual footage library!
I'd just like to say that I like the new channel icon.
Thanks!
Hey Rob, love your videos. Any chance you could do one on whatever happened to Disney's Mineral Springs ski resort?
Hey Rob! Could you possibly explain how Universal Studios still has Marvel-themed rides, even though Disney owns the rights? Do you think there will be more rides geared towards Marvel characters (like they didGuardians of the Galaxy) in the Disneyworld parks?
Good question! It ultimately boils down to timing. Universal had a contract with Marvel for use of their characters for rides long before Disney purchased Marvel. When Disney did finally buy Marvel, that contract carried over. Right now the contract is such that specific characters like the Guardians or Doctor Strange can have rides at WDW, but virtually all of the other big ones are off limits.
Universal would either have to decide to drop the rights, which they honestly won't do as long as it's popular, or Disney would have to pony up enough cash to make them drop it.
Universal also gave Spider-Man an HD upgrade, and they just did some heavy maintenance to the Hulk last year. It's also a very popular part of Islands of Adventure. Universal most likely expects Marvel to stay at their park for many years to come. But I'm pretty sure they are only allowed to maintain and improve their current rides. I don't think Universal can add new Marvel rides.
Rob Plays so does Iron Man fall outside of this? Because there's an IronMan ride in DisneyShanghai.
+I_am_maybe_a_slice_of_pie
Disney is able to make any Marvel ride they want, as they do own Marvel. There is also a Guardians of the galaxy ride that replaced Disneyland's tower of terror.
I don't think this is accurate. I believe there's something to do with the continental nature of the deal--Universal can operate Marvel rides on the east coast of North America, and Disney can on the west coast of North America, in what I can only imagine is some bizarre redo of the Treaty of Tordesillas /s. Shanghai is a separate consideration, because a reasonably prudent person cannot argue that it would pull vacationers away from Universal Orlando in the same way that a Marvel ride in WDW might.
lol i feel personally attacked by the opening
great video
your outro is my favorite thing in the world.
The main reason it changed is because they figured that nobody cares about classic Hollywood anymore, at least not enough people to make big bucks for the company. And Universal Studios' attractions aren't limited to Universal's film library; they attractions based on other films through licensing rights with those studios.
I'm 14,and I still remember when it was called Disney MGM Studios
I'm 16 and I don't. 😂
Impossible
I didn't really go to Disney until it was named Hollywood Studios
Im also 14 and I rennet when it was MGM
I'm 15 and I remember MGM studios like it was yesterday
Thank you for this video, Rob. I loved it. Can you make one about why Epcot is so much different than Walt's idea?
Interesting idea! I think there might be a video in that! In the meantime I kind of talk about it in a roundabout way on my "Would EPCOT Have Worked" video, where I talk about the feasibility of the city idea: ruclips.net/video/RWgKEI7Tfa8/видео.html
Can you do a video about the abandoned disney theme parks
This is fascinating. I had always wondered but just assumed they wanted to use their own brand.
Hey rob! Great video loved the footage and everything about it! Thanks for the video
Until very recently I though MGM was a name given by Disney. I though it stood for Mickey - goofy - Minnie. I started was TCM, and realized that MGM was a film company.
I always wanted to know, thank you!
I wish Hollywood Studios and its attractions still focused around movie magic. I'm excited for all the new attractions ( The Great Mickey Ride, Toy Story Land, Star Wars, etc.) and as an annual pass holder, I'll obviously be visiting them. However, I just don't really think we can really call these "theme" parks if they don't revolve around a particular theme..... i.e. Mission Breakout is an excellent attraction but what is it doing in CALIFORNIA Adventure? Just my thoughts 🤷🏻♂️
When DCA received its name change from Disney's CALIFORNIA Adventure to DISNEY California Adventure, the emphasis is no longer on California, but on Disney. The current, post-2012 DCA is literally about a Disney park located in California, not a Disney park about California. GotG: MB is just the first phase of many of a massive Marvel expansion that is to come, MB may look awkward now, but once the whole final project is completed, it will totally make sense.
Poor MGM. Louis B Mayer would be rolling in his grave if he could see it today
Make a video on how powerful Disney’s lawyers are
I'm going to WDW on Friday and I'm binging all your videos
Lucky! Have a fantastic time!
I loved this video Rob!
Do they still film shows there?
I remember going to Vegas as a kid and going to MGM Grand just to find Grand Adventures (we couldn't or it was closed or something)
"We don't need 11 million dollars to keep calling it MGM studios" that was beautiful sir
Rob you should start doing the thing where you do a q and a on mc magic that was awesome plz start doing that again
R.I.P The Great Movie Ride
To this day, it's still hard to say Hollywood Studios. MGM Studios comes so naturally to me. I agree with the name change and really hope they just keep the current name. I don't know if another name change is necessary.
Rob, if Disney World were to open a 5th park, which I believe is bound to happen at some point, what do you think will be the theme of the park?
What do you think the next name for the park would be? I quite like Disneyland Paris name of Walt Disney Studios Park, though I think a new name may be something more suited to experiencing movies than production of them.
RandomDisneyGuy The Walt Disney Movie Experience *cue dramatic lasers and smoke machines*
At first reading that sounds more like an attraction than a whole park, it doesn't really roll off the tongue does it? I suppose it doesn't matter as I'll still be calling it MGM or Studios Park for a while anyway :)
RandomDisneyGuy "Disney's Hollywood Kingdom" to go with Magic and Animal, though I actually think that'd be a horrible name, I just can't think of anything that would define the new direction of the park being about experiencing films rather than the production of films, yet still be creative and interesting sounding.
Not everyone understands the techy stuff about making movies. Considering how The Entertainment Industry has been over the last two decades it's easy to understand how people who love this can get jaded by it.
Disney's Miscellaneous Kingdom!
@robplays - I used to work at Disney MGM. They lost the contract to the MGM name.
I went to Orlando for the first time in 11 years and just found out that it was renamed 😮
Hey Rob! I have a question about the tower of terror in HS. I went to Disney in June and met up with some friends that informed me the last time they rode TOT they saw some mannequins on the ledge of where the doors are when you are dropping. Like when the doors are opening and you see out into the park. I tried to look up information about it but really didn't find anything other than people saying they were the air blast mannequins but I still don't think that is what they were. I read that stuff about it on the WDWMAGIC forum but that was all from feb 2013. Another forum post from march of 2013 claimed strobes weren't working. Now four years later I don't know if they are fixed and that's why their description of the mannequins don't match what I saw. My boyfriend claimed that you can only see them during certain ride sequences and my friends claimed this to be true since the next couple of times they rode TOT they did not see them. It just so happened when we rode it we saw them. They are off on the right and left side and we didn't see them on the ledge of the first drop but the second or third (like the lowest doors and the middle doors of the tower) seeing them on the ride was he scariest experience of my life and the ride picture proves it. When I say mannequins it looks like the outline of the bellhop and the little girl that were killed in the tot ride story. It almost looks as if real people are standing on that ledge. I want to stress the fact that they were not in the middle of the shaft. Off to the sides. They were not projections like the things you see before you might go up and drop again. I was wondering if you have seen these or know anything about the different effects on TOT. I am very sorry this was a long question but it was such a hard to describe experience and almost traumatic enough that I can't ride TOT if I am not in the back row😂
I'm a little late but great video Rob!!
One word! Because! Haha. Love your videos. thanks
IT WILL ALWAYS BE MGM
I just visited Hollywood Studios this week. I was very disappointed because it's not what MGM used to be. I remember at age 12, when it was MGM, there was an actual movie ride and I loved it. There was also a little I Love Lucy area and a Mickey and Minnie's house that you could tour. I remember there was a Honey I Shrunk the Kids playground and now none of that exists👎
When I hear someone say it will always be the MGM to me
Mom get me the chainsaw
"Hollywood" has log been a Disney brand, namely as the 'record label' of the Disney company.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Records#1989-1995:_Founding
Just asking, why do they still uses the Singin' In The Rain theme in the rain parade?
Great question! Over time certain films changed ownership. In Singin' in the Rain's case, ownership eventually changed from MGM to Warner Bros. In fact I'll have to double check, but I believe at this point the only film representation in the park that is still owned and licensed from MGM itself is the Wizard of Oz bits of The Great Movie Ride, which of course is about to change.
Cool, thanks for saying. I still don't understand why Singin' in the Rains theme is still used by Disney- Maybe they didn't remember to change the song when they changed.
Until this past December they were also still using "Good Morning Good Morning" from Singin' in the Rain as a part of their Magic Kingdom welcome show.
Right now, Warner has licensed content at Disney (not for long), Universal (Harry Potter!), *and* of course Six Flags.
Speaking of branding, I notice that your recent videos haven't had any sort of identifiable visual hook. I understand why you dropped the previous icon that looked like a video game controller. For a while I could visually identify your videos based on the font style you were using. Are you working on something else for this?
Daffy, I can always count on your for the ones that make me think!
I don't have anything in the works at the moment outside of the test I've been running for a few weeks with text-less thumbnails. I think when it comes to the branding and hook, the biggest variable ends up being where you think the traffic is going to come from. So to that end, I think if I were to develop a hook or brand, it'd be more for my vlogs since that's the kind of content where I'd expect all the traffic to mostly be subscribers who know me.
For stuff like this my hope is that like the Water Smell video, much of the traffic would be curious viewers who might be stumbling across the channel. With that in mind I think it becomes less important for people to distinguish it as a video from me, and just that it's an interesting video overall. I'm probably articulating it poorly, but I guess it's all to say that I'm always willing to try new things with styles and branding, but at the moment I'm testing to see how the minimalist approach goes.
Marty sklarpassed away last week
Rob Plays where was MGM theme park opened?
rob youre killin it these days!! i love the videos youre uploading! if i werent a broke college student, i would totally support your patreon 👍💛
Thanks for the kind words and don't worry, watching and sharing the videos is support enough! :D
Not to long ago I called it Hollywood Studios in a conversation. I was ashamed, it felt dirty. It will not happen again! Just kidding I don't get too hung up on names. I have bigger thing to worry about like outdoor queue lines. Thanks for the video.
Movie Ride gone :( how can be that possible? shame
Watching at disneyland paris!
I would give anything to bring Eisner back
Pre-1994 Eisner yes, post-Frank Wells Eisner a big fat NO!
They should rename it to studio disney
Hey rob great video, Do you think Eisner has had a good influence on Disney or do You think he's made some questionable changes?
I think over 20 years or so, it's too nuanced to be a flat good or bad influence. He did a lot of good for the company, but he also made his fair share of questionable changes. Overall considering the state of Disney in 1984 when he came to the company, it was probably for the better that he did.