I was actually gonna say stuff in his defense like "Maybe this Dragunov is just star struck, tired, nervous, etc".... but then he plugged and I knew EXACTLY how he kept his rank lol
He's red rank, that's like green in T7. There are a lot of new players and the rank system is different, you'll see purple ranks who don't punish rage arts. He's a bitch for plugging but otherwise that's how red ranks are
@@Alimentasable Comparing Red to Green is a stretch but I get your point. Everyone within the same range doesn't play the exact same and alot of ppl in TK7 didn't have any business being where they were at either.
@@Alimentasableit's the system imho. T8, you finally lose points only on orange if i'm not mistaken. Also only 3 ranks per colors. That's why lots of players who lacks fundamentals are in red
Ok but seriously, what is going on? In tekken 7, i was stuck at red ranks for a while, and the people i faced there where absolut monsters. In tekken 8 i have played against mighty rulers who don't even know how to backdash, punish, block etc. Like how did they even achive their rank?!
@@TJBlack3.5 Ladder is also set at higher baseline, yellow ranks is basically where ranked starts. There are also a lot of new players, which again makes the average player a lot weaker since not everyone playing is a 10 yr old tekken vet.
@semavi9696 yeah mk does this single thing better than tekken and Bamco needs to fix this. But other than that, MK is a balancing mess, the animations look shit, its all about fatalities. Trash game beyond quitality.
I had 5 hours of glorious ranked play last night. No pluggers, only one guy who used a rage art, it was beautiful. I doubt I'll ever see a night like that again.
Legit proof that characters carry many players. Ive seen so many youtubers like afro and agent who play victor and dragonov in the purple ranks when they dont even know matchups and just have constant pressure
Blue ranks is even worse I'm lucky that I got Leo to tk emperor, I can't tell you how many pluggers I got from getting Leo to emperor it might be almost 30 I kid you not
This guy literally plays like the equivalent of green ranks in T7. 100% he got carried to this rank by broken Dragunov, and now he is stuck because good players destroy his gimmicks. He isn't used to that so the only way of coping with this for him is plugging. This is T8 ranked in a nutshell sadly.
Surprisingly even the semi-decent lower-mid ranks do this. Especially if their tools were mostly strong or uncontested that much. I played against a King. Good mixups and didn't rely on throws but my good friend is a King main and after over 70 matches against each other him using King's whole moveset. I know King as if I main him myself. So despite the player being nutty, I shut down his offense 90% of the time or downright blew him up but it was fair game since I would win with like barely 10-20% health still thanks to homing grabs and that bluddy RKO. Yet he plugged. It's like if someone isn't a Tekken vet or someone who is an avid FG player. They can't stand losing. Same thing happens against Hwoa, Bears, Zafina and Azu... And I main Bryan. It's crazy.
Ranks in T8 are so inflated, it's not even funny. In T7, getting to higher rank groups felt like you needed to learn things along the way to make it there. Like it legit took me almost a year to get to red ranks in T7. It takes no effort in T8 because Namco is worried about player retention. Most people just quit the game if they're hardstuck in green for months. In T8 they have the illusion that they're getting better because they see their ranks go up like a casino slot machine when in reality they're not even scratching the surface of learning Tekken.
@defearl True. Though I believe the issue lies in how overtuned some characters are. Heat/Heat Smash and let's not mention the darn RA does too much damage and works so well as not a comeback mechanic but daylight robbery. Which newer players rely on too much and good habits from playing good players kills you because you don't always expect a mid-upper rank player to use a scrubby strat. So it works against good players too like how they worked on Mainman too. TL;DR newer players get to high ranks thanks to heat smash-into-rage art robberies that you end up with inflated ranks. Most will say. "Nah just lab..." , "If you were so good you should have beat them..." , "If you lost to that you are just bad..." but often forget that even newer players can be smart and throw you off. In T8 you die to scrubs because you were caught off guard not really because you couldn't handle it. And the damage you receive from these mistakes make it very hard to catch them and beat them in time. Not to forget that even the scrubs don't just do 1 thing. Especially in T8 they spam like 6 flow charts which 2 of them kill you before you have enough time to catch on.
Drag got that good dmg, with them easy 50/50 set up, with easy block string, but this guy plays weird. Feel like he was getting away with limited moves up till that point
It’s pretty crazy how mixed every rank is with player skill. I think the issue is, apart from tekken 8 just being way easier, is that you usually go against people who just spam moves, and then you get someone who actually knows how the game works, and then when you go against another spammer, it’s really bizarre trying to adapt back to the brain dead play style
So so true hahaha. It's a completely different play style trying to counter someone playing in a scrubby way vs someone playing "proper" tekken. And because of how all over the place ranks feel right now you need to jump between playstyles so often
coming from tekken 7 dragu main here, i have a replay of me just doing half life to a guy only using dragu's b1+3 and d1+2 parries people do be braindead and predictable nowdays i am truely disgusted of what the average dragu player has become, i don't even want to associate with those people the average dragu just became wr2, 2-3 grabs, FC df1,4 in sneak 4 and maybe some jabs also if you ever encounter a dragu that actualy side steps, blocks, parries, actually uses wr4/wr3 and generaly moves a lot, he is most likely coming from T7 too Those are the scary ones, they can and will mix you good with many feints, grabs and strings dragu has in his arsenal
I know part of it is ego(self aware) but losing in Tekken 8 just feels so much worse than T7 ranked. T7 ranked was bullshit too but you wouldn’t see people play nearly as lobotomized as people do in 8.
While this is true. Mainman did get hit by the generic 2 grab 4-5 times w/o teching correctly. That was funny ngl. This lose didn’t seem as bs as alot of interactions in this game.
@@AntonioGonzalez-ht5cklow tier god? Not plugging? Since when hasn’t he plugged, he legit plugged the other day so it’s not really a good bar to compare him at tbh
Dragunov is not the problem. It's how braindead and stupid the whole game is and the focus on offense. As well as plugging.that green rank isn't there because of dragunov, it's because he plugs. And fkn me, give me a 10000 dragunovs over jun and xiaoyu. I don't even find many dragunovs at all. It's mostly devil Jin, Nina, xiaoyu, king, too many fkn yoshimitsu brainlets and the occasional bear and azucena ( all 5 IQ, no skill, no defense, green ranks with fujin+ ranks. Haven't found an azucena that was even DECENT at the game. Today I played a fujin azucena that played just like this dragunovs but also teabagged and ki charged and danced until I clapped her cheeks. No rematch). The problem is the game. It's too braindead. Nobody has to respect anything and everyone spams (except kazuya, he only works on the vortex rather than spam. Worst character in the game by far. Even worse than Leroy).
@@zazombiezmasher0116 oh. So you think that this particular player got to red ranks by using dragunov rather than plugging? That the game isn't braindead and full of spammers because that is what the whole game is about? Or maybe you don't agree that I find more characters that are not dragunov in ranked? Love such comments. They say nothing, add nothing, just try to insult you without giving anything because you know people like you are too stupid and to say more past tweet long "touch grass", "incel", "you suck" insults, everybody would see who you really are. You should go touch some grass rather than lurk around and leave random replies with the hope of angering your targets. Little noob can't deal with dragunov and probably plays some braindead character like azucena of xioayu, because they are the closets a woman has ever been near you that wasn't your mother.
@@zazombiezmasher0116 ah fk... You are a plugger. That is what triggered you. Gotcha. You don't agree that plugging is the real issue. Little green rank got to red ranks by plugging every loss. Yep, you definitely should go touch some grass rather than your Ethernet cable
@@SS_Sin_Of_Prideit’s cuz it’s king I’m a king main as well and people send me the wildest messages after they plug all ranks are just miserable if you go against entitled idiots who think just because you’re using (input hated character) they’re automatically in the right to plug
@@Beforezzz Bro I've played Tekken 7 for 5 years and I dont remember it being so toxic. The amount of one and dones and pluggers in T8 surpasses T7 by a mile. Its not just with King lol, I constantly get plugged on even with my main Kazuya.
Like bruh, we should have infinite rematch, I hate finding someone who’s willing to deathmatch in ranked, but oh no ft2, so after that set I find someone else just to waste my time and plug on me
i absolutely don't understand why they had to make it a best of 3 in ranked. i would rather play against a guy me who keeps beating me and keeps accepting the rematch so i could learn something, instead of playing against 10 different gimmicky dipshits who don't rematch after 1 win/loss even
I dropped dragunov, got yoshi to mighty ruler today and im stopping there until ranked is updated, cant stand the pluggers and ive been getting some pretty good high blue rank players and such in casuals, so can still learn for now
@@Cutthroat__dragunov in heat gets untechable tackle and some lame grabs. His heat smash does half damage of Jin's and king's heat smash while being nearly identical. Lee's heat uses heat to have perfect just frame Inputs on some moves....it's only good for an easy 10 frame punish, which is the antithesis of using heat, as you want to be on the offense, not defending. It's kinda useless honestly if you main the character. Only his weird hit grab 3,3:4 and 1:3:3:3 are useful in heat and they are... Not game changing of you go into heat, kinda the worst heat mechanic alongside dragunov. Kazuya's heat isn't op either, buffing some good moves into better moves but nothing too crazy cuz they burn heat FAST. Others get some weird crazy stuff, massive buffs during heat, like xioayu getting a low launcher that's -10 or safe on block? Jun Launchers becoming safe and a crazy heat smash with massive heal. Paul has a high hit grab like lee that deals too much damage on block. Lars has some guard break electric that forces you into a 50/50 and has super wonky interactions with lots of moves. Victor makes the panic move safe, that does 60 damage and has infinite range, which also hits grounded for way too much damage. King gets a 50/50 into unbreakable throws or high damage knockdown moves and throws give heat back. Azucena automatically parries and counters highs and mids while in stance. Asuka gets dumb moves spammabble and do way more chip damage. Alisa gets 2 gimmicks and chainsaws deal a fkton of chip. Brian gets to spam the dumb snake eyes bs Claudio gets constant starburst Devil Jin gets lasers that turn hellsweep into a launch and electrics Jack 8 gets a buff and a guard break into heat smash Dragunov's heat state is probably the worst one. Unbreakable feint into grab and tackle are.... Oof... Not even worth using. His whole heat is reserved for a fast heat smash when needed. That's all I ever use it for. It's like he doesn't even get any special effects during heat at all. Hope they don't nerf him into top 5 worst characters like they did in Tekken 7 after season 1. He feels much more complete and fun to play now so it would suck if he sucked. Tekken 7 dragunov was literally just wr2 and D2. His wall damage was abysmal and his mids were basically highs, with zero tracking. Just don't duck and you win in Tekken 7 cuz all he can do is chip with D2 and everytime he does, he gives away his turn. People just respect his frames too much. That is like with KAZUYA when you respect him too much and let him 50/50 vortex you. You are playing his game at his tempo and that is what he wants. Only amazing dragunov players like jdcr can make dragunov really work. Now he is so oppressive only because his strong throw game is fixing his biggest weaknes: he is the most linear character in the game, with no good tracking moves besides D2.
“Instead of just fixing our ranked point system, we are exploring unnecessary options to ban players for life.” Ez to rank up through lower ranks if you throw till your demotion match, win promotion match and skip half the rank after a loss streak. I dont play like that but i got nina to almost garyu now just by playing her heaps, and i dont think i deserve that rank, but worse players have higher ones so idk
What annoys me on this game is that so many people are obsessed with using the heat smash as soon as they can. It's like they just wanna use all the flashy moves as quickly as possible. The abuse of the heat system can be overkill and frustrating against weaker players.
The close of this was so on-point. I'm currently Raijin ranked, and recently, I played a Lee that was rank 23 and was doing all the punishable stuff you'd expect from orange ranks. I was beating him, and of course, he plugged. It told a whole story of how he got there without some truly required skill checks...the most disgusting people.
This is like sf6 man. So many "master" rank players got carried by drive rush and drive impact that once they hit MR they get clapped so hard and pull the plug once people get past their gimmicks.
9:00 Couldn't have said it better. This game tried so hard to be accessible for new players that it made the game unplayable for old players. Can't even play my main without feeling bad cuz of those monkey's who only picked him cuz he's "busted"..
I guess I have to take a break from ranked. You fight so hard to rank up and then a random Kuma or Xiayou appears and for a reason no one knows, you just lose 1000 points and all the hard work is robbed from you. But when Im on Promo, people are plugging. Sorry but this is garbage and unfair and Im tired of it. Fuck Tekken 8
@@Michael_Lochlann Xiayou is broken af. But the main problem to me is, how this game takes 1000 points from you all the time and I dont understand how it works. It has nothing to do with the ranks, winning streaks, losing streaks or Tekken prowess, it just happens super random. But its simply super demotivating. You still getting carried tho
stop complaining about kuma you scrub, hes the worst character in the game, if you dont learn the matchup you deserve to lose. yiayou on the other hand is the best character in the gaem, nullifies 90% of your moveset, so dont compare these characters
@@Michael_Lochlannno, that character is arguably the most broken and strongest character. If Jun didn't have a massive heal on block with her heat smash, it would be a no contest for xiayou.
Ok, this has been very motivational for me. I just reached Vanquisher and thought i sucked but if this fucker can get to fucking Tenryu then im getting to Tekken King at least. This is both hilarious and sad to watch XD
Never forget WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!! WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!! WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!! IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BREATHING AIR
Don't blame the player, blame the game. Its clear that they wanted Tekken 8 to be way too casual friendly and now the ranked is all messed up. We have people on red ranks that don't even know how to side step or block and just spam the same moves over and over. When you give casual player the idea that he is "good" at the game and when he starts to lose matches he will start raging and plugging.
I haven't dabbled in any online game play as a game developer yet, but I feel it shouldn't be that hard to set up a ping system that can tell which of the two players is the one that disconnected and penalize them for that while giving the win to the remaining still responsive player.
Pluggers need fixed yesterday. I'm done with ranked until they fix it. (if they fix it, because Bamco seem to be among the least competent devs out there) Why are they so defensive and stubborn about something every other franchise did years ago!
I've been saying the same thing since I got tekken 8, I really like the game but the people playing it are sewer rats, scummiest player base I've encounter to date. An issue that you might not be aware of since you over 200k prowess is the fact there are so many people at beginner rank who have played tekken 7 for years but stay beginner rank, probably to match against other "beginner" rank players in quick match, makes it an absolute nightmare for genuine beginners or people picking up a new character to try and get some experience. Can't imagine how many people have stopped playing due to it.
As someone who is stuck in orange ranks but had a bunch of experience from t7, i just want the game to stop giving me juns,dragunovs and kings. Im suffering out here fighting for my life and i havent even seen half the roster💀
@@nw6358 I wish it were the same for me, I can tell straight away when someone is a beginner like myself, but every other game people are doing perfect wave dashing and taking 40-50% of my hp per combo, ain't no way they should be beginner rank, or matched against me. So there is most definitely smurfs, lots of experienced players being cowards and not playing ranked
Quick Match should let people select a level of play. I hate how they always place us in "beginner" as if their game hasn't basically been consistent for over 20 years.
Like any game, it's the players that ruin the game. The game is solid with great visuals and mechanics. People are just lazy and annoying in games. Resort to gimmicks and cheap tactics too often.
As someone who has like 600 hours in T7 and T8 combined, I was pretty good at breaking throws in T7, in T8 it feels next to impossible to do that consistently. I feel like, if TMM with all of his time in Tekken, struggles with that - I don't see how they're in a good spot, since it's just pure rng
There should be seasons. During the season ranks should be hidden. After the season the rank is revealed and it stays on your profile for that season (your rank for s2 is still hidden) Would this fix things? Probably not.
How on earth is this guy in Red ranks? I'm in Orange and I've seen a few Drags that play better than this. Like, he's got no movement, no defense and he seems to only spam 3-4 movies.
The last minutes of this video really sums up a lot for me in T8 as well. Trying to make it to Blue ranks, but stuck in Flame Ruler due to people lose quitting or plugging. I can thankfully say that im getting better in fighting Jun and Lili for now though😂
Playing Tekken ranked has never been fun for me. It's either I beat them & they start making excuses & insult me or they plug. Or if they beat me, they'll rub it in my face. I remember this 1 guy who I played against in Tag 2, he was a solo Jin who beat my team of Yoshi-King twice & on the 3rd match where I was about to win... you already know how the story ends. & it has been consistently like that ever since I started.
Tekken 8 reminds me of Jumpforce. Initially there wasn’t a rematch option in jumpforce then they added it. Then no one rematches, they pick the most busted characters and play the scummiest spammy way possible, troll spin, which is equivalent to teabagging. You’ll win match then rematch then when they win the second match of the set the run away. Also, when they’re losing especially when it’s time to rank up, they plug😭😭
As annoying as it is to lose a game on FIFA when you disconnect regardless of the reason, its preferable to this, where theres no punishement at all. If someone leaves and you are currently winning, you should get the win for it.
@@Steel12able so bec of plugging thats the most pathetic drag ever? Shh When obviously he is pissed not bec of the plugging but the gameplay of the player.. But truth is throws are part of the game and he is doing that as well. But of course this guy is the most pathetic drag for you too since your daddy said it LOL Goober? Like i said before, Tmm fanbase are bunch of kids 🤣
Tekken Rev showed me the power in Player Match lobbies. You should do custom lobbies with viewers with different events whenever you want a break just for free extra content and fun. 😉
First Tekken I’ve played since the PS2 and I actually hate the way you get armour for certain moves in this game. Rage arts armour should be removed completely. Like I said I haven’t played for years and went from lowest rank to orange in less than half a day with yakuza ( who I used on the ps2) I don’t use rage arts because they piss me off, the use of the bar is a cool addition but you also get armour using that so really you have two chances to use armoured moves in a single match i know you still take a bit of damage but it sucks, that’s just my opinion!
Does quick play even work? I never seem to find any matches, if at all... Tekken Lounge is the best and thanks to that I get to play outside of ranked... I am so tired of being robbed by heat smashes into death tech of some of these braindead characters while getting my points gobbled up for free.
I was actually gonna say stuff in his defense like "Maybe this Dragunov is just star struck, tired, nervous, etc".... but then he plugged and I knew EXACTLY how he kept his rank lol
He's red rank, that's like green in T7. There are a lot of new players and the rank system is different, you'll see purple ranks who don't punish rage arts. He's a bitch for plugging but otherwise that's how red ranks are
@@Alimentasable Comparing Red to Green is a stretch but I get your point. Everyone within the same range doesn't play the exact same and alot of ppl in TK7 didn't have any business being where they were at either.
@@Beforezzzred rank is definitely the new green ranks he not lying
@@Alimentasable That is true lmao, even green ranks in T7 is better than red ranks in T8
@@Alimentasableit's the system imho. T8, you finally lose points only on orange if i'm not mistaken. Also only 3 ranks per colors. That's why lots of players who lacks fundamentals are in red
Ok but seriously, what is going on? In tekken 7, i was stuck at red ranks for a while, and the people i faced there where absolut monsters. In tekken 8 i have played against mighty rulers who don't even know how to backdash, punish, block etc. Like how did they even achive their rank?!
They're carried by their characters and heat
This game is a lot easier and is even more spammy then Tk7 plus its easier to rank up even when demoted also the game is new in simplified terms
The games ranks are different, that is the answer you literally can't even be demoted until you hit Warrior
Ranking up in this game is easier due to the points system
@@TJBlack3.5 Ladder is also set at higher baseline, yellow ranks is basically where ranked starts. There are also a lot of new players, which again makes the average player a lot weaker since not everyone playing is a 10 yr old tekken vet.
Insane that they can’t punish that pathetic behaviour. The game will suffer if they don’t find a remedy for it soon.
70 dollars this shit?
@@Michael_LochlannMortal Kombat will literally give you the win if the opponent disconnected. This is just Bandai Namco being lazy.
I don't even understand why they can't just count plugging as losing the match. Almost every other game with a ranked mode do just that
@semavi9696 yeah mk does this single thing better than tekken and Bamco needs to fix this.
But other than that, MK is a balancing mess, the animations look shit, its all about fatalities. Trash game beyond quitality.
Tekken 7 didn't suffer and did just fine. Let people plug and have fun
7 years and they didn't find a solution for plugging, truly a bandai namco moment
"Miyazaki and FromSoft doesn't punish pluggers, so we shouldn't punish there here either lmao"
What’s plugging (I’m new)
Intentionally disconnecting
I had 5 hours of glorious ranked play last night. No pluggers, only one guy who used a rage art, it was beautiful. I doubt I'll ever see a night like that again.
bro a drag just plugged against me after eating 3 jack's shoulders in a row because he always crouched after wake up lmao
Legit proof that characters carry many players. Ive seen so many youtubers like afro and agent who play victor and dragonov in the purple ranks when they dont even know matchups and just have constant pressure
Dont do my man Afro like that hes trying his best.
@@Kenshi876 lmao I do feel bad for that mans mental health. Hes gotta have like 80 hours already in the game
Yeah Afro is low key grinding lol
Lotus told Afro to play Drag specifically because he was busted as hell lmaooo.
I mean yeah look at Maximillian Dood for example. He got Victor to Tenryu no problem yet he cant get Lars outta orange.
He plays like a special style player
Oh, he's special, alright...
As pmp gallo, the chosen one
Most Dragunovs I've encountered play like that, the Kings too lol
@@leonlegend He's special with no style
If theres anything I've learned today, its that ranks garyu to tenyu are the absolute cesspits of Tekken degeneracy
even purple/blue ranks tbh
purple and blue is even worse!!!
But its more the systems fault than the player's.
red is cancer man
I’ve been stuck in the red ranks for the past two months please pray for me
Blue ranks is even worse I'm lucky that I got Leo to tk emperor, I can't tell you how many pluggers I got from getting Leo to emperor it might be almost 30 I kid you not
This guy literally plays like the equivalent of green ranks in T7. 100% he got carried to this rank by broken Dragunov, and now he is stuck because good players destroy his gimmicks. He isn't used to that so the only way of coping with this for him is plugging.
This is T8 ranked in a nutshell sadly.
Surprisingly even the semi-decent lower-mid ranks do this. Especially if their tools were mostly strong or uncontested that much. I played against a King. Good mixups and didn't rely on throws but my good friend is a King main and after over 70 matches against each other him using King's whole moveset. I know King as if I main him myself. So despite the player being nutty, I shut down his offense 90% of the time or downright blew him up but it was fair game since I would win with like barely 10-20% health still thanks to homing grabs and that bluddy RKO. Yet he plugged. It's like if someone isn't a Tekken vet or someone who is an avid FG player. They can't stand losing. Same thing happens against Hwoa, Bears, Zafina and Azu... And I main Bryan. It's crazy.
Ranks in T8 are so inflated, it's not even funny. In T7, getting to higher rank groups felt like you needed to learn things along the way to make it there. Like it legit took me almost a year to get to red ranks in T7. It takes no effort in T8 because Namco is worried about player retention. Most people just quit the game if they're hardstuck in green for months. In T8 they have the illusion that they're getting better because they see their ranks go up like a casino slot machine when in reality they're not even scratching the surface of learning Tekken.
@defearl True. Though I believe the issue lies in how overtuned some characters are. Heat/Heat Smash and let's not mention the darn RA does too much damage and works so well as not a comeback mechanic but daylight robbery. Which newer players rely on too much and good habits from playing good players kills you because you don't always expect a mid-upper rank player to use a scrubby strat. So it works against good players too like how they worked on Mainman too.
TL;DR newer players get to high ranks thanks to heat smash-into-rage art robberies that you end up with inflated ranks. Most will say. "Nah just lab..." , "If you were so good you should have beat them..." , "If you lost to that you are just bad..." but often forget that even newer players can be smart and throw you off. In T8 you die to scrubs because you were caught off guard not really because you couldn't handle it.
And the damage you receive from these mistakes make it very hard to catch them and beat them in time. Not to forget that even the scrubs don't just do 1 thing. Especially in T8 they spam like 6 flow charts which 2 of them kill you before you have enough time to catch on.
@@defearl its because Tekken 8 is still a new game and Tekken 7 is like a year ago,so you can tell the different.
@@defearl Yeah, you and Perry are both right with what you said. I definitely agree 💯
*Is this Special style Jin Player?! (PMP Gallo)* , nah He can't be.. The man never Plugs Tekken 8
at least special style jin doesn't quit unlike this drag clown
PMP gallo was the chosen one.
Drag got that good dmg, with them easy 50/50 set up, with easy block string, but this guy plays weird. Feel like he was getting away with limited moves up till that point
*Sees the title of the video*
Me: That's a bit harsh *clicks video*
Me: Okay valid.
It’s pretty crazy how mixed every rank is with player skill. I think the issue is, apart from tekken 8 just being way easier, is that you usually go against people who just spam moves, and then you get someone who actually knows how the game works, and then when you go against another spammer, it’s really bizarre trying to adapt back to the brain dead play style
So so true hahaha. It's a completely different play style trying to counter someone playing in a scrubby way vs someone playing "proper" tekken. And because of how all over the place ranks feel right now you need to jump between playstyles so often
coming from tekken 7 dragu main here,
i have a replay of me just doing half life to a guy only using dragu's b1+3 and d1+2 parries
people do be braindead and predictable nowdays
i am truely disgusted of what the average dragu player has become, i don't even want to associate with those people
the average dragu just became wr2, 2-3 grabs, FC df1,4 in sneak 4 and maybe some jabs
also if you ever encounter a dragu that actualy side steps, blocks, parries, actually uses wr4/wr3 and generaly moves a lot,
he is most likely coming from T7 too
Those are the scary ones, they can and will mix you good with many feints, grabs and strings dragu has in his arsenal
True even in fighting against ablue rank. and i was like "wtf is this shit?" I took a break from t8 because of this ngl
That's one of my struggles as well. It hard to adapt to scrub style and proper style with bo3.
Alt F4 was the input he was actually looking for. The combo he never drops lol
As soon as you started grabbing it knew this was gonna happen
I know part of it is ego(self aware) but losing in Tekken 8 just feels so much worse than T7 ranked. T7 ranked was bullshit too but you wouldn’t see people play nearly as lobotomized as people do in 8.
While this is true. Mainman did get hit by the generic 2 grab 4-5 times w/o teching correctly. That was funny ngl. This lose didn’t seem as bs as alot of interactions in this game.
@@Jrsweezietrue but he didnt plug so he isnt the loser
@@AntonioGonzalez-ht5cklow tier god? Not plugging? Since when hasn’t he plugged, he legit plugged the other day so it’s not really a good bar to compare him at tbh
@@Jrsweezie how is it generic if you can't break it with 1
Most pathetic dragunov is like narrowing it down by 5-10 percent
these newfrogs giving true veteran drag chads a bad naem
Dragunov is not the problem. It's how braindead and stupid the whole game is and the focus on offense.
As well as plugging.that green rank isn't there because of dragunov, it's because he plugs. And fkn me, give me a 10000 dragunovs over jun and xiaoyu.
I don't even find many dragunovs at all. It's mostly devil Jin, Nina, xiaoyu, king, too many fkn yoshimitsu brainlets and the occasional bear and azucena ( all 5 IQ, no skill, no defense, green ranks with fujin+ ranks. Haven't found an azucena that was even DECENT at the game. Today I played a fujin azucena that played just like this dragunovs but also teabagged and ki charged and danced until I clapped her cheeks. No rematch).
The problem is the game. It's too braindead. Nobody has to respect anything and everyone spams (except kazuya, he only works on the vortex rather than spam. Worst character in the game by far. Even worse than Leroy).
@@kato093holy bait Batman, bait used to be believable at some point.
If your not baiting…… Jesus Christ maybe touch some grass brother
@@zazombiezmasher0116 oh. So you think that this particular player got to red ranks by using dragunov rather than plugging?
That the game isn't braindead and full of spammers because that is what the whole game is about?
Or maybe you don't agree that I find more characters that are not dragunov in ranked?
Love such comments. They say nothing, add nothing, just try to insult you without giving anything because you know people like you are too stupid and to say more past tweet long "touch grass", "incel", "you suck" insults, everybody would see who you really are.
You should go touch some grass rather than lurk around and leave random replies with the hope of angering your targets. Little noob can't deal with dragunov and probably plays some braindead character like azucena of xioayu, because they are the closets a woman has ever been near you that wasn't your mother.
@@zazombiezmasher0116 ah fk... You are a plugger. That is what triggered you.
Gotcha. You don't agree that plugging is the real issue. Little green rank got to red ranks by plugging every loss.
Yep, you definitely should go touch some grass rather than your Ethernet cable
Even on higher ranks they always play the same way. It's this and the new string with the kick plus on block.
Rank is extremely toxic in this game its crazy.
In my experience once you get higher ranks like I’m at flame ruler you meet more respectable players
@@Dannen.the.dealer No dude, Im Battle Ruler with King and its pretty bad. Sure King is annoying to deal with but still.
@@SS_Sin_Of_Prideit’s cuz it’s king I’m a king main as well and people send me the wildest messages after they plug all ranks are just miserable if you go against entitled idiots who think just because you’re using (input hated character) they’re automatically in the right to plug
Tekken 7 wasn't exactly a stranger to toxic players either. Where do you guys think most of them are coming from?
@@Beforezzz Bro I've played Tekken 7 for 5 years and I dont remember it being so toxic. The amount of one and dones and pluggers in T8 surpasses T7 by a mile.
Its not just with King lol, I constantly get plugged on even with my main Kazuya.
Like bruh, we should have infinite rematch, I hate finding someone who’s willing to deathmatch in ranked, but oh no ft2, so after that set I find someone else just to waste my time and plug on me
Exactly my experience man ಥ_ಥ
Miss finding honorable people in t7 who would just run sets instead of these small pp t8 one pump chump players.
yeah! i prefer a rematch against someone who is really good than some scrubby mf who would plug once they are losing
i absolutely don't understand why they had to make it a best of 3 in ranked. i would rather play against a guy me who keeps beating me and keeps accepting the rematch so i could learn something, instead of playing against 10 different gimmicky dipshits who don't rematch after 1 win/loss even
@@k0st34ka yess thank I was just saying that, I’d rather get my shit kicked in by a good player than doing this finesse ass ft2 over and over again
I dropped dragunov, got yoshi to mighty ruler today and im stopping there until ranked is updated, cant stand the pluggers and ive been getting some pretty good high blue rank players and such in casuals, so can still learn for now
Yoshi main here got 3 plugs in 3 games in a row and i just quit for today xD azucena,Alisa and dvj blue ranks
@@norberttiti289 pathetic losers man
Translation of a twitch comment in Swedish: "TMM, are you autistic? Genuine question because you are extremely good at Tekken"
lmao
4:55 LMAO THIS WAS HILARIOUS
The biggest issues with this game are homing attacks, bad hitboxes and heat being absurdly op for certain characters
Heat is op for every character… scrubs activate heat the very first move and your health bar is gone in seconds.. yoshi is a good example
@@Cutthroat__dragunov in heat gets untechable tackle and some lame grabs. His heat smash does half damage of Jin's and king's heat smash while being nearly identical.
Lee's heat uses heat to have perfect just frame Inputs on some moves....it's only good for an easy 10 frame punish, which is the antithesis of using heat, as you want to be on the offense, not defending. It's kinda useless honestly if you main the character. Only his weird hit grab 3,3:4 and 1:3:3:3 are useful in heat and they are... Not game changing of you go into heat, kinda the worst heat mechanic alongside dragunov.
Kazuya's heat isn't op either, buffing some good moves into better moves but nothing too crazy cuz they burn heat FAST.
Others get some weird crazy stuff, massive buffs during heat, like xioayu getting a low launcher that's -10 or safe on block?
Jun Launchers becoming safe and a crazy heat smash with massive heal.
Paul has a high hit grab like lee that deals too much damage on block.
Lars has some guard break electric that forces you into a 50/50 and has super wonky interactions with lots of moves.
Victor makes the panic move safe, that does 60 damage and has infinite range, which also hits grounded for way too much damage.
King gets a 50/50 into unbreakable throws or high damage knockdown moves and throws give heat back.
Azucena automatically parries and counters highs and mids while in stance.
Asuka gets dumb moves spammabble and do way more chip damage.
Alisa gets 2 gimmicks and chainsaws deal a fkton of chip.
Brian gets to spam the dumb snake eyes bs
Claudio gets constant starburst
Devil Jin gets lasers that turn hellsweep into a launch and electrics
Jack 8 gets a buff and a guard break into heat smash
Dragunov's heat state is probably the worst one. Unbreakable feint into grab and tackle are.... Oof...
Not even worth using. His whole heat is reserved for a fast heat smash when needed. That's all I ever use it for. It's like he doesn't even get any special effects during heat at all.
Hope they don't nerf him into top 5 worst characters like they did in Tekken 7 after season 1.
He feels much more complete and fun to play now so it would suck if he sucked. Tekken 7 dragunov was literally just wr2 and D2. His wall damage was abysmal and his mids were basically highs, with zero tracking.
Just don't duck and you win in Tekken 7 cuz all he can do is chip with D2 and everytime he does, he gives away his turn.
People just respect his frames too much. That is like with KAZUYA when you respect him too much and let him 50/50 vortex you. You are playing his game at his tempo and that is what he wants. Only amazing dragunov players like jdcr can make dragunov really work.
Now he is so oppressive only because his strong throw game is fixing his biggest weaknes: he is the most linear character in the game, with no good tracking moves besides D2.
@@kato093 feng heat is broken as well it’s ridiculous i even taking chip damage from players in heat your still losing health really quick it’s insane
@@Cutthroat__Heat being op for every character doesn't make it okay. Like the only counter to heat is shut them down with yours?
That's just boring
Green Rank player gets lost in purple ranks
“Instead of just fixing our ranked point system, we are exploring unnecessary options to ban players for life.” Ez to rank up through lower ranks if you throw till your demotion match, win promotion match and skip half the rank after a loss streak. I dont play like that but i got nina to almost garyu now just by playing her heaps, and i dont think i deserve that rank, but worse players have higher ones so idk
It's what happens when they keep making characters stronger.
For how easy heat is to use, it's beyond insane trying to deal with it.
Remember, it’s cross-play now - most of those players are console scrubs and kiddies. That is why ranks are so incompetent right now.
What annoys me on this game is that so many people are obsessed with using the heat smash as soon as they can. It's like they just wanna use all the flashy moves as quickly as possible. The abuse of the heat system can be overkill and frustrating against weaker players.
TMM's little rant at the end has been my attitude on ranked haven't played for 4 days and has been better for my mental health lmao
This is low tier god level bad of drag.
There's something about Tekken 8 where it feels like almoat everyone playing is super sweaty.
The close of this was so on-point. I'm currently Raijin ranked, and recently, I played a Lee that was rank 23 and was doing all the punishable stuff you'd expect from orange ranks. I was beating him, and of course, he plugged. It told a whole story of how he got there without some truly required skill checks...the most disgusting people.
This is literally every drag from red to blue 😂
It’s shameful enough to plug but plugging when you have rematched after you have won the first game is a different level of scumbaggery 🤣🤣🤣
This is why Im just going on quick match at the moment lol. And also because I got stuck so just trying to improve first.
It doesn't get any better I'm at Tekken god and they literally just wake up in the final round rage art to give themselves time to plug
This is like sf6 man. So many "master" rank players got carried by drive rush and drive impact that once they hit MR they get clapped so hard and pull the plug once people get past their gimmicks.
9:00 Couldn't have said it better. This game tried so hard to be accessible for new players that it made the game unplayable for old players. Can't even play my main without feeling bad cuz of those monkey's who only picked him cuz he's "busted"..
that sidestep into rage art was sexy
I can't play Tekken 8 right now and no content creator i know is planning steve, so getting to see my main for a bit is always pretty cool, thanks TMM
What I used to do when in your situation is look up any pro gameplay involving that character lol
have you ever watch heera Malik steve? it's pretty good stuff
I'd recommend JustRelaxKid, he's new to tekken but picking it up pretty fast and also pretty entertaining. He's in mighty ruler last time I checked.
shinblade and jdcr play steve
Shinblade TV just God with Steve. He’s flying the flag atm
8:59 This is the price of popularity T8
Here we see a wild dragunov in its habitat
Dragunov players when they are sober:
00:25 nice grab frank. standard frank gameplay
I guess I have to take a break from ranked. You fight so hard to rank up and then a random Kuma or Xiayou appears and for a reason no one knows, you just lose 1000 points and all the hard work is robbed from you. But when Im on Promo, people are plugging. Sorry but this is garbage and unfair and Im tired of it. Fuck Tekken 8
@@Michael_Lochlannno, shes just broken and op
@@Michael_Lochlann Stop talking nonsense. Shes fucking braindead and broken af and everyone knows it. Stop downplaying her. You get carried Bro
@@Michael_Lochlann Xiayou is broken af. But the main problem to me is, how this game takes 1000 points from you all the time and I dont understand how it works.
It has nothing to do with the ranks, winning streaks, losing streaks or Tekken prowess, it just happens super random. But its simply super demotivating.
You still getting carried tho
stop complaining about kuma you scrub, hes the worst character in the game, if you dont learn the matchup you deserve to lose. yiayou on the other hand is the best character in the gaem, nullifies 90% of your moveset, so dont compare these characters
@@Michael_Lochlannno, that character is arguably the most broken and strongest character. If Jun didn't have a massive heal on block with her heat smash, it would be a no contest for xiayou.
I just love how I actually played against this guy. I'm a green rank Lee and he lost to me once, teabagged on the second fight and rage quit
People like this be making all the Dragunov Mains look bad🤦🏾♂️💔
Don't worry we still love you
god as a drag main since t5 its both great to see him popular but it is unfortunate to see people calling him braindead
@@frenchVynn speak for yourself.
@@sliippy2152 smh it's sad to see
But watch everyone ignore dragunov when he gets nerfed
Thats the tekken community for you
Y'all drag mains enjoy your buffs for now cuz imma be pressing 1 repeatedly at the end of each round when he gets nerfed 😂
Like Lord Aris said "Tekken fans are the worst people on the planet"
Ok, this has been very motivational for me. I just reached Vanquisher and thought i sucked but if this fucker can get to fucking Tenryu then im getting to Tekken King at least. This is both hilarious and sad to watch XD
Ranked is a complete cesspit till we get some balance changes and a plugging fix. I really dont understand what's taking them so long.
“Everyone plays in the scummiest way imaginable”
Yup it’s real real bad right now.
Never forget
WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!
WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!
WINNING IN TEKKEN RANKED IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!
IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BREATHING AIR
U deserve this after promoting LTG , one of the worst pluggers in all fighting games so dont cry now
Honestly I am a dragonov main and honestly that dude was a complete scrub and he does make us look bad
Don't blame the player, blame the game. Its clear that they wanted Tekken 8 to be way too casual friendly and now the ranked is all messed up. We have people on red ranks that don't even know how to side step or block and just spam the same moves over and over. When you give casual player the idea that he is "good" at the game and when he starts to lose matches he will start raging and plugging.
"nObOdY oWeS yOu a rEmAtCh"
I think they need to start losing points at green rank, alot of ranked inflation in t8. Red/ purple ranks aren't what they used to be
Wtf why doesn't a disconnect = -points for the disconnector. So stupid, every competitive game has already figured this out.
I haven't dabbled in any online game play as a game developer yet, but I feel it shouldn't be that hard to set up a ping system that can tell which of the two players is the one that disconnected and penalize them for that while giving the win to the remaining still responsive player.
Tekken players get called out for being elitists but as soon as you open the game up for casuals, you get guys like this every other match.
Pluggers need fixed yesterday. I'm done with ranked until they fix it. (if they fix it, because Bamco seem to be among the least competent devs out there) Why are they so defensive and stubborn about something every other franchise did years ago!
I must be lucky. I haven’t had anyone plug on me after 100 matches
Murray apparently played in his ranks and just somehow concluded theres not alot of pluggers for them to worry about it 😃
Murray is a clown if he actually said that
I've been saying the same thing since I got tekken 8, I really like the game but the people playing it are sewer rats, scummiest player base I've encounter to date. An issue that you might not be aware of since you over 200k prowess is the fact there are so many people at beginner rank who have played tekken 7 for years but stay beginner rank, probably to match against other "beginner" rank players in quick match, makes it an absolute nightmare for genuine beginners or people picking up a new character to try and get some experience. Can't imagine how many people have stopped playing due to it.
As someone who is stuck in orange ranks but had a bunch of experience from t7, i just want the game to stop giving me juns,dragunovs and kings. Im suffering out here fighting for my life and i havent even seen half the roster💀
i'm new in to tekken 8 and beginner ranks are full of beginners. ain't no smurfs. search for + or minus 2 of your rank when you search for a match
@@nw6358 I wish it were the same for me, I can tell straight away when someone is a beginner like myself, but every other game people are doing perfect wave dashing and taking 40-50% of my hp per combo, ain't no way they should be beginner rank, or matched against me. So there is most definitely smurfs, lots of experienced players being cowards and not playing ranked
Quick Match should let people select a level of play. I hate how they always place us in "beginner" as if their game hasn't basically been consistent for over 20 years.
Been like that for years bud nothing new
Like any game, it's the players that ruin the game. The game is solid with great visuals and mechanics. People are just lazy and annoying in games. Resort to gimmicks and cheap tactics too often.
Finally mainman has encountered one of these creatures. If he encounters them as much as I do he might change his check mark opinion on dragunov lol
Other than rolling out when he was on the ground the Dragonov never once side-stepped. What weird play.
Can we get a video on Lars Alexanderson Mr Main man?
They really gotta get something done for ranked asap bro
I was expecting it to be afrosenju
As someone who has like 600 hours in T7 and T8 combined, I was pretty good at breaking throws in T7, in T8 it feels next to impossible to do that consistently. I feel like, if TMM with all of his time in Tekken, struggles with that - I don't see how they're in a good spot, since it's just pure rng
Can wait when you try Yoshi
There should be seasons. During the season ranks should be hidden. After the season the rank is revealed and it stays on your profile for that season (your rank for s2 is still hidden) Would this fix things? Probably not.
I might pick up Steve him and raven look like the most fun to play
How on earth is this guy in Red ranks? I'm in Orange and I've seen a few Drags that play better than this. Like, he's got no movement, no defense and he seems to only spam 3-4 movies.
With that title im expecting : Bad connection Tbaging ki charge and plugging. The four horsemen
I dot get why tmm is not hitting his legs. he does strings in full dragunov standing block for what? hit his legs. It is impossible to lose but he did
I think Steve has bad lows don’t quote me on that but I think it’s cause he has to bend over to punch his leg and that gives it away.
The last minutes of this video really sums up a lot for me in T8 as well. Trying to make it to Blue ranks, but stuck in Flame Ruler due to people lose quitting or plugging. I can thankfully say that im getting better in fighting Jun and Lili for now though😂
Something about medicine tasting the same
Playing Tekken ranked has never been fun for me.
It's either I beat them & they start making excuses & insult me or they plug. Or if they beat me, they'll rub it in my face.
I remember this 1 guy who I played against in Tag 2, he was a solo Jin who beat my team of Yoshi-King twice & on the 3rd match where I was about to win... you already know how the story ends. & it has been consistently like that ever since I started.
Id get so pressed that i got that far into a set only for them to plug then I lose my streak and they dont get penalized.
Isn't there always a delay before the message appears when someone plugs? I'm even more confused now
I was like "damn he might be scrubby but that title seems a bit harsh" but then I saw the ending ToT
That intro was super tough unexpectedly
Tekken 8 reminds me of Jumpforce. Initially there wasn’t a rematch option in jumpforce then they added it. Then no one rematches, they pick the most busted characters and play the scummiest spammy way possible, troll spin, which is equivalent to teabagging. You’ll win match then rematch then when they win the second match of the set the run away. Also, when they’re losing especially when it’s time to rank up, they plug😭😭
You just know that he only plays drag because hes so strong right now.
Sounds like entitled rich kids are currently common in ranked. Naturally they will play like shi% and PLUG OR never rematch a good player like TMM
The most dignified Dragunov player
No throwbreaks from both sides. This is Tenryu rank alright.
As annoying as it is to lose a game on FIFA when you disconnect regardless of the reason, its preferable to this, where theres no punishement at all. If someone leaves and you are currently winning, you should get the win for it.
Other than plugging.. stop complaining when you cant even break a 2 throw 59x lol
Talking down to people that are better than you isn't a good habit.
@@Gankstomper oh i am the one talking down, when you can see the title says "most pathetic"
but of course you wont see that since tmm is your daddy 🤣
@@Darkknightrexx TMM talked down to that guy because he's cheating.
You must be a plugger as well. Only explanation for these asinine comments.
@@Darkknightrexx he was calling out that Drag be cause he chose to rematch TMM and all that effort and when TMM about to win , he plugs. You goober
@@Steel12able so bec of plugging thats the most pathetic drag ever? Shh
When obviously he is pissed not bec of the plugging but the gameplay of the player..
But truth is throws are part of the game and he is doing that as well.
But of course this guy is the most pathetic drag for you too since your daddy said it LOL
Goober? Like i said before, Tmm fanbase are bunch of kids 🤣
I get plugged on in what feels like 90% of my matches, I can't play the game like this right now :(
Tekken Rev showed me the power in Player Match lobbies. You should do custom lobbies with viewers with different events whenever you want a break just for free extra content and fun. 😉
Average Dragunov behaviour.
Steve feels hard when playing as Draganov
First Tekken I’ve played since the PS2 and I actually hate the way you get armour for certain moves in this game. Rage arts armour should be removed completely. Like I said I haven’t played for years and went from lowest rank to orange in less than half a day with yakuza ( who I used on the ps2) I don’t use rage arts because they piss me off, the use of the bar is a cool addition but you also get armour using that so really you have two chances to use armoured moves in a single match i know you still take a bit of damage but it sucks, that’s just my opinion!
Aside from the plug he was giving you issues 😂
Ranked is an awful environment. Doesn't help that quick play is also useless without infinite rematch.
Does quick play even work? I never seem to find any matches, if at all... Tekken Lounge is the best and thanks to that I get to play outside of ranked... I am so tired of being robbed by heat smashes into death tech of some of these braindead characters while getting my points gobbled up for free.
@@Perry_Talion it works, I get one and doned a lot more strangely though. Playing Kaz and law
@ZA1TAMA Kaz and Law require some knowledge and patience that most do not have. Makes sense. Will try it out today later.
Bruh man just spammed HEAT combo and grabs then rage quits 😂
Surprisingly, i haven't encountered a single plugger in the game the last 10 hours i played ranked and most of the time i was playing against waifus.
Might depend on rank. I’m in yellow-orange usually and almost never see pluggers. I’ve heard most of them are in Garyu to Fujin
@@amplitory4195 The people who said it gets better in blue ranks lied 🥲
Ranked looks like absolute cancer in this game