Like this video, hoping for an updated video testing latency on rapid trigger usage on hall effect switches between wooting 60HE, Apex Pro TKL, and drunk deer a75.
Great! I gave up on Corsair a couple of years ago after spending almost a year with sending back faulty hardware. Chatter on 5 boards, I really gave them a chance. I like how they look and so on, but I do not want to go through that hell again.
Man this channel is just too good! Every video is just top notch. 👌 been watching for years. Edit: saw a comment asking for this kind of testing for controllers and I wanna put my vote in for that lol.
controllers? are you joking? you want to use inferior hardware, that's your problem don't ask Chris to waste his valuable time where he can actually do some good instead
Rtings has input lag tests of many keyboards and they show that the EVGA Z15 has an input lag of 0.9ms, while your test shows it having an average of 18ms of lag... why is there such a large discrepancy between your results and theirs? To add on top of this, your results show the Corsair K70 Rapidfire is the fastest, having an average input lag of 13ms while Rtings shows it having a latency of 4.2ms, a worse input lag than the Z15 but your results show the opposite. I don't understand.
maybe is something wrong with the way of the tests or maybe it is about games, take in mind this video test the keyboards in csgo and rtings test are in valorant. But it is just a theory i dont have any idea.
Absolutely amazing test, with data that you can't find anywhere else. I second the suggestion that you start a website and add more different keyboards to the list. I would pay a subscription for that or increase my patreon membership. That's really great what you have there!
PS: But license the data so that the manufacturer can only advertise your independently verified latency for their keyboard if they pay you a fee. You could have a certified seal of below 15ms latency logo that you license to gaming keyboard manufacturers.
Ok so my testing on my i5 8600k: Mouse from 1k to 8k = added CPU load doubled from +6% to +12% (over +20% with more than 1 mouse plugged in) KB from 1k to 8k = added CPU load doubled from +1-2% to +2-4%. (Note the impact will only happen when moving the mouse or pressing the KB keys.)
Great video as always. Thank you for what you do. I do want to request a video from you. The Corsair Sabre Pro Champion Series is a new mouse that claims to have 8k polling rate and also uses the new axon tech they use on the keyboards in this video. If you could do a latency comparison with the mouse mentioned above it would be greatly appreciated.
Best video EVER, answered all my questions. Thank you so much for saving my time...no useless blah blah blah. There should be a rating Beyond thumbs up. ????? P.S.. love the nonchalant delivery of how much work that has too have been. No whining. [Quote, Just the facts ma'am ]
do you think that you could test steelseries apex pro with omnipoints vs the corsair keyboards next? since apparently omnipoints are still the fastest switch out
For mice and keybords, just set it to 1000 hz and forget about it. High polling rates do have a negative effect on other areas of system latency as a tradeoff, even if you have a high-end CPU. And 1ms is already way under what's achieveable frametime-wise.
@@kwinzman The problem is, the "really small difference" improvement in input responsiveness also trades off for system delay in other areas, which would be equally measurable. The CPU has to spend more time processing input calls rather than being free to process other things sooner things like AI, physics, audio, etc. This just delays the processing chain more, and could cause more ingame framedrops.
@@GENKI_INU Good thing we don't have to make educated guesses any more and speculate what could be. Battlenonsense tested with a real game (CS:GO), published his pc specs (9700k @5GHz, ...), screen, fps, ... AND then he tested average latency, and also gave min and max, and variation. You can see at 5:27 that 8kHZ polling was not slower.
@@kwinzman He's only tested keyboard to display input in an controlled environment where no other load is otherwise being put on the CPU, which is highly unrealistic in an actual gaming scenario. The game's framepacing, along with audio delay, and even mouse input delay was not tested, which would've seen some tradeoff for the higher priority (poll rate) on the keyboard. CPU's run on an interrupt-basis, meaning they have to complete an instuction before processing another. Flooding a CPU's que with 8 times more instructions per second just to get that extra 1ms faster keyboard response will disproportionately increase the overall load, and latency in all other areas. This is particularily true when USB input peripherals are handled by a single thread/core which the game could also be running on.
@@GENKI_INU Yes you are right, he only gave average frame rate and not exact frame times, and in the video it looks like he was standing completely still and only measuring firing delay and that would not stress the system much and would not show problems with framepacing. Everything you say *sounds* reasonable. And I 100% believe you that 0.2ms latency savings is not worth the risk of accidentally making something worse, with a certain hardware, software, and game combination. So while I absolutely agree with you, my point is still that until we actually *measure* a slowdown, it's still just speculation. Maybe the process scheduling is better than we think, maybe the 8000Hz polling rate on a multicore CPU with 5000000000Hz clock is not as bad as we assume.
Got an Cherry MX Board 6.0 with RK technology and from what I have tested it is the real deal for input latency... Get you hands in one of this keyboards and then do the same test.
I have a ps/2 mechanical keyboard that has 30ms more latency than my k70. I guess the control hardware in it is not good, but it was a popular model at the time so a lot of people must have them.
Excellent video, would be great if you could test in the same way the Steelseries apex pro, Roccat Vulcan and Razer huntsman please. In other words the top optical keyboards from the major vendors.
This would be interesting, but in general I don't think this is very useful, as most people who care about minimal input lag are using mouse and keyboard.
Interesting! A Razer Huntsman TKL optical switch (1mm) vs the Steel Series Apex Pro TKL omnipoint switch (set a 1mm too) would be a superb test and matchup. Both are touted as the best gaming keyboard switches but I wonder if their firmware is as good as Corsair's latency wise?!
1:47 Hey im getting different information than you. Can you Confirm? On their site it state Axon keypress inputs up to 8x faster with native 8,000 hyper-polling. This is for their K70 RGB TKL CHAMPION SERIES Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - CHERRY MX SPEED (SKU CH-9919014)
Just wanna say, Corsair K70 Mk2 RGB Rapid-fire low-profile with cherry speed silvers... Best keyboard money can buy. Speed Silver have an actuation of 1.0mm btw. Speed reds are 1.2
Can I install iCue set 8k Hz mod and delete iCue. If not, then I don't see any reason to install any heavy app. One for mouse, another for keyboard, 3rd for mother board and GPU to control RGB (for example). You buy very quick keyboard and mouse, then make your OS slower by garbaging iit with apps
Yeah he should have tested that. But I just bought the K70 and it looks like you can only use 4 khz without iCUE, because 8khz uses additional CPU power and So Corsairs drivers and interface that come with iCUE only. Even when idle and at 1 khz, iCUE uses 5% CPU on a 12 thread system. You don't want it on your system.
@@noyz2828 yes. I’ve done it a few times, asked on a couple forums and even DM’d battlenonsense and he didn’t answer. So I’m left hoping to find a helpful answer in his comment section.
@FearlessP4P1: I don't even know what you mean with "true" polling rate. As said in the video usually the keyboard microcontroller polls the keys and then there is a second polling rate that the computer polls the keyboard microcontroller at. It doesn't actually matter though. The polling rates are just part of the latency. As said in the video sometimes the keyboards with more frequent USB polls have more latency. What matters is the total latency including how big its variance is. If you want that watch this video or do similar tests yourself. I wish the keyboard manfacturers would pay independent testers like Battlenonsense to give you that number, but I doubt it's gonna happen.
@@kwinzman the “true” part was meant as a bit of bait. I understand about the other stuff. It’s called matrixing and there’s even this other thing called cord splitting that adds to the delay. Your comment was worthless since you’re regurgitating what the video stated. The difference in polling rate(and other stuff) does matter if you’re a competitive person. The reason there wasn’t much difference was because he tested a bunch of keyboards that share a lot the same tech, that not surprisingly, results in similar performance numbers. Just like battlenonsense, if i could afford all the high performing keyboards from different companies we’d make more content on them.
I bet that is not the case in general! If I remember correctly Battlenonsense already checked that in a previous video. USB or PS/2 link is just a part of the total latency.
I just bought and recieved the k100 its freaking amazing upgrading from 10$ office logitech keyboard xDDD without your videos I never would have thought it was a vaulable and important purchase to decrease my overall system latency
how the new keyboard works for you in warband? and what polling rate are you using for the keyboard when u are playing? im thinking to update my potato keyboard but im worried of how it gonna works in warband, because i was testing with the polling rate of my mouse and a low polling rate (250hz or 125hz) makes feel warband more stable, but at 1000hz polling rate (specially running the game at high framerates) for some reason make my game feels unstable having some strange lags, micro teleports, choppy( i dont know how describe it)
@@BrujoMB Keyboard is awesome, sidesteps more clean and game feels much snappier. I have 8k polling hz mouse and 360hz montior to take advantage of everything. Idk your whole setup so if u dont have a great PC focus on that first. but also if you increase warband over 250fps sometimes it will get choppy based on ur pc
@@TruthSerum ty for the answer probably im gonna change my keyboard and will see, my pc is fine for warband i think( rx580 8gb, i5 10400f, 16gb ram, in to hdd) i just think other people run the game with less problems than me so im trying to find why, so if the mouse polling rate is afecting my game maybe the keyboard will do. Btw is there a big difference beetwen 144hz to 360hz?
Your PC is limiting your ability to run high polling rates most likely. Polling rates take a lot of GPU and CPU power that can lag and affect your game. There is a big difference between 144hz and 360hz
Thank you so much for this testing! Any possibility of being able to check out the new GMMK Pro keyboard from Glorious, or really any Razer keyboard? In razers case, I'm curious to see if Synapse has any effect on the delay, or if delay could be dependent on lighting effects. Thank you for making me want to min/max another part of my system lol
I would love for him to test them too. Especially the affects of synapse. there was a computer mouse that had deviated polling rate when it’s RGB was on. Sadly, I can’t remember the name of it, but IIRC that deviation was later fixed with a firmware update.
Very good informing video ! Is it possible you can test the AXON on 240hz csgo with fps_max 0-999+ ? Dont need to make a video on but if you can make a google sheets on it or something :D
They put "polling rate" and 99% of people are too stupid to understand that this doesn't mean input lag, they would have no idea what debounce means. Same as monitors where 99% of people think "response time" being 1ms, means the monitor has 1ms input lag. It's pointless for most people as they are too dumb to understand.
optical will be slightly faster, but more important for latency is switch Operating Force (lighter better) which apex pro is king or modded wooting (spring swap for 30-50 start/end force like in apex pro)
can you please test this method on a cheap keyboard? I would like to know how the tecware spectre performed, I think your test is more advanced than the Rtings guy did
Without statistical significance testing (i.e. p-values) none of these results mean anything. You cannot just conclude that one keyboard is faster than the other because it's average is slightly lower
How did you set the K100 polling rate to 8kHz? iCUE settings only allows up to 4kHz. EDIT: Apparently they don't offer certain firmware updates or 8kHz polling unless using iCUE4.... what the hell?
Probably because 8 khz needs additional CPU power, while 4 khz doesn't, and only iCUE 4 supports that. I stayed at 4khz because I don't want to have this CPU hogging software running in the background in any case.
Truly, no nonsense video - no silly greetings, no sponsor, no life story. Straight to the point.
Like this video, hoping for an updated video testing latency on rapid trigger usage on hall effect switches between wooting 60HE, Apex Pro TKL, and drunk deer a75.
Really want to see this test done on a much wider selection of keyboards, and like everything else.
G915 Logitech tkl would be a nice comparison
I second this
Please comeback, we need you now more than ever
Im just impressed with the older K70 with the speed switches. I've had mine for a few years and love it.
This channel deserves so many more views and subscribers.
Man your testing setup has gotten so awesome from the stuff you were doing at the beginning like 4 years ago.
I would love to see this testing with a Logitech G915 in wired and wireless mode. I wonder how it stacks up against the Corsair keyboard.
Great video!
I realy would like to see how Logitech g915 with wireless works against the Corsair keyboards
@@rsrsrsrsrs618 hopefully realy like my g915
Guys I'd like to buy one of these new keyboards but I don't know if its worth it coming from a Corsair Strafe Red, what do you think?
@@SuperSpeed52 lol of course it isn't
Great!
I gave up on Corsair a couple of years ago after spending almost a year with sending back faulty hardware. Chatter on 5 boards, I really gave them a chance.
I like how they look and so on, but I do not want to go through that hell again.
I would love to see your analysis on the K70 MK.2 Low Profile RAPIDFIRE with MX Speed Low Profile switches - these have an actuation of just 1.0mm
Man this channel is just too good! Every video is just top notch. 👌 been watching for years.
Edit: saw a comment asking for this kind of testing for controllers and I wanna put my vote in for that lol.
controllers? are you joking?
you want to use inferior hardware, that's your problem
don't ask Chris to waste his valuable time where he can actually do some good instead
Is there a spreadsheet or list floating around listing the best keyboards along with their input testing measurements, etc. ?
This is very greedy of me but I want you to test as many keyboard and mouse models as possible lol.
Awesome video once more!
Keep up the good work!
Rtings has input lag tests of many keyboards and they show that the EVGA Z15 has an input lag of 0.9ms, while your test shows it having an average of 18ms of lag... why is there such a large discrepancy between your results and theirs? To add on top of this, your results show the Corsair K70 Rapidfire is the fastest, having an average input lag of 13ms while Rtings shows it having a latency of 4.2ms, a worse input lag than the Z15 but your results show the opposite. I don't understand.
same here im looking for a keyboard and those results are confusing me
maybe is something wrong with the way of the tests or maybe it is about games, take in mind this video test the keyboards in csgo and rtings test are in valorant. But it is just a theory i dont have any idea.
Absolutely amazing test, with data that you can't find anywhere else. I second the suggestion that you start a website and add more different keyboards to the list. I would pay a subscription for that or increase my patreon membership. That's really great what you have there!
PS: But license the data so that the manufacturer can only advertise your independently verified latency for their keyboard if they pay you a fee. You could have a certified seal of below 15ms latency logo that you license to gaming keyboard manufacturers.
Amazing vídeo, Chris. Congratulations for more one excelent job.
Thank you for all your testings. Helps me decide better what to buy .
Keep up the great work you do .
how would a cheap membrane keyboard rank in this chart?
I'm curious how the Apex Pro with hall switches would fair against the K100.
i want to see the results too
Ok so my testing on my i5 8600k:
Mouse from 1k to 8k = added CPU load doubled from +6% to +12% (over +20% with more than 1 mouse plugged in)
KB from 1k to 8k = added CPU load doubled from +1-2% to +2-4%.
(Note the impact will only happen when moving the mouse or pressing the KB keys.)
Great video as always. Thank you for what you do. I do want to request a video from you. The Corsair Sabre Pro Champion Series is a new mouse that claims to have 8k polling rate and also uses the new axon tech they use on the keyboards in this video. If you could do a latency comparison with the mouse mentioned above it would be greatly appreciated.
I'm curious to see how optical key switches affect this. Would a 4000hz keyboard still beat a 1000hz optical keyboard like a Huntsman V2 Analog?
amazing content as always
Love your videos. Would like to see a new one including the Wooting 60HE
Best video EVER, answered all my questions. Thank you so much for saving my time...no useless blah blah blah. There should be a rating Beyond thumbs up. ?????
P.S.. love the nonchalant delivery of how much work that has too have been. No whining. [Quote, Just the facts ma'am ]
do you think that you could test steelseries apex pro with omnipoints vs the corsair keyboards next? since apparently omnipoints are still the fastest switch out
I have the Apex Pro TKL and previously had the old K70. I would love to see this comparison.
Can you try Steel Series Apex Pro and Razer Huntsman? Because these keyboards are advertising as fastest keyboards.
Who buys in 2021 for Razer, expensive piece of plastic...
rthings have done it already, look section keyboard latency on their website :)
High quality as always!👍
For mice and keybords, just set it to 1000 hz and forget about it.
High polling rates do have a negative effect on other areas of system latency as a tradeoff, even if you have a high-end CPU.
And 1ms is already way under what's achieveable frametime-wise.
It makes a really small difference, but it's measureable. Just as was said in the video!
@@kwinzman The problem is, the "really small difference" improvement in input responsiveness also trades off for system delay in other areas, which would be equally measurable.
The CPU has to spend more time processing input calls rather than being free to process other things sooner things like AI, physics, audio, etc.
This just delays the processing chain more, and could cause more ingame framedrops.
@@GENKI_INU Good thing we don't have to make educated guesses any more and speculate what could be. Battlenonsense tested with a real game (CS:GO), published his pc specs (9700k @5GHz, ...), screen, fps, ... AND then he tested average latency, and also gave min and max, and variation. You can see at 5:27 that 8kHZ polling was not slower.
@@kwinzman He's only tested keyboard to display input in an controlled environment where no other load is otherwise being put on the CPU, which is highly unrealistic in an actual gaming scenario.
The game's framepacing, along with audio delay, and even mouse input delay was not tested, which would've seen some tradeoff for the higher priority (poll rate) on the keyboard.
CPU's run on an interrupt-basis, meaning they have to complete an instuction before processing another. Flooding a CPU's que with 8 times more instructions per second just to get that extra 1ms faster keyboard response will disproportionately increase the overall load, and latency in all other areas.
This is particularily true when USB input peripherals are handled by a single thread/core which the game could also be running on.
@@GENKI_INU Yes you are right, he only gave average frame rate and not exact frame times, and in the video it looks like he was standing completely still and only measuring firing delay and that would not stress the system much and would not show problems with framepacing.
Everything you say *sounds* reasonable. And I 100% believe you that 0.2ms latency savings is not worth the risk of accidentally making something worse, with a certain hardware, software, and game combination. So while I absolutely agree with you, my point is still that until we actually *measure* a slowdown, it's still just speculation. Maybe the process scheduling is better than we think, maybe the 8000Hz polling rate on a multicore CPU with 5000000000Hz clock is not as bad as we assume.
Got an Cherry MX Board 6.0 with RK technology and from what I have tested it is the real deal for input latency... Get you hands in one of this keyboards and then do the same test.
you should try a keyboard with custom firmware that allows custom debounce, like a keyboard with qmk and eager debounce setting.
Which keyboard for example? Do you have a link or parts list?
Oh and apparently RUclips hides comments with links for spam filtering reasons. Just post the name if you have it. Thanks!
@@kwinzman just google qmk keyboard. There is a list of all keyboards that support qmk.
The K70 CS allows custom debounce...
I'd be pretty interested seeing wireless and PS/2 keyboard testing at some point.
I have a ps/2 mechanical keyboard that has 30ms more latency than my k70. I guess the control hardware in it is not good, but it was a popular model at the time so a lot of people must have them.
Please compare the roccat Vulcan pro and the Logitech g915 keyboard 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Would really like you to test yellow optical switches if possible!
Same. If you’re really interested in some testing on it then theportlygamer on RUclips compared reaction time tests with it and the optical silvers.
Excellent video, would be great if you could test in the same way the Steelseries apex pro, Roccat Vulcan and Razer huntsman please. In other words the top optical keyboards from the major vendors.
would love to see the k65 version tested as well
This is an awesome technical assessment. Would you be able to recreate this assessment for controllers at PC as well?
Yes. With the "old" method. High speed camera
I actually really want to see this. Kinda wanna see it compared to console just for the bants as well haha
Same here
Well there is no reason a solenoid couldn't push a controller button. But I am personally less interested in that. Do the keyboards first haha.
This would be interesting, but in general I don't think this is very useful, as most people who care about minimal input lag are using mouse and keyboard.
Kinda remarkable how long I've had the OG Corsair keyboard... gosh.
Interesting! A Razer Huntsman TKL optical switch (1mm) vs the Steel Series Apex Pro TKL omnipoint switch (set a 1mm too) would be a superb test and matchup. Both are touted as the best gaming keyboard switches but I wonder if their firmware is as good as Corsair's latency wise?!
Sharkoon better
1:47 Hey im getting different information than you. Can you Confirm? On their site it state Axon keypress inputs up to 8x faster with native 8,000 hyper-polling. This is for their K70 RGB TKL CHAMPION SERIES Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - CHERRY MX SPEED (SKU CH-9919014)
I thought the 8k ha was gimmick but coming from a ps2 keyboard holy shit my k100 was sooo worth it! It’s $178 at Best Buy this 4th of July weekend
one thing that’s underrated tho (does nothing in speed) are custom kb‘s
Thank you for the awesome helpful test and videos just wondering how razer's keyboards stack up against the competitions? Thanks again
Thank you for the video :)
nice video, WARNING THIS SCREEN WILL FAAAAAAAASH!
Awesome work.. but what about ICUE software.. can u test games and these keyboards with and without ICUE. I hear ICUE adds lag, latency.. thanks!
Just wanna say, Corsair K70 Mk2 RGB Rapid-fire low-profile with cherry speed silvers... Best keyboard money can buy. Speed Silver have an actuation of 1.0mm btw. Speed reds are 1.2
Can I install iCue set 8k Hz mod and delete iCue. If not, then I don't see any reason to install any heavy app. One for mouse, another for keyboard, 3rd for mother board and GPU to control RGB (for example). You buy very quick keyboard and mouse, then make your OS slower by garbaging iit with apps
Yeah he should have tested that. But I just bought the K70 and it looks like you can only use 4 khz without iCUE, because 8khz uses additional CPU power and So Corsairs drivers and interface that come with iCUE only.
Even when idle and at 1 khz, iCUE uses 5% CPU on a 12 thread system. You don't want it on your system.
thank you so much for this video
3:07
this screen will fash
oops.
When will you test Logitech G series i.e G513? curious to see how it compares
Any idea how to check the true polling rate of keyboards?
have u considered typing this question into google search engine instead of yt comments section?
@@noyz2828 yes. I’ve done it a few times, asked on a couple forums and even DM’d battlenonsense and he didn’t answer. So I’m left hoping to find a helpful answer in his comment section.
@@noyz2828 Ever considered that it's actually hard to find the polling rate of a keyboard? lmao clown
@FearlessP4P1: I don't even know what you mean with "true" polling rate. As said in the video usually the keyboard microcontroller polls the keys and then there is a second polling rate that the computer polls the keyboard microcontroller at.
It doesn't actually matter though. The polling rates are just part of the latency. As said in the video sometimes the keyboards with more frequent USB polls have more latency. What matters is the total latency including how big its variance is. If you want that watch this video or do similar tests yourself.
I wish the keyboard manfacturers would pay independent testers like Battlenonsense to give you that number, but I doubt it's gonna happen.
@@kwinzman the “true” part was meant as a bit of bait.
I understand about the other stuff. It’s called matrixing and there’s even this other thing called cord splitting that adds to the delay. Your comment was worthless since you’re regurgitating what the video stated. The difference in polling rate(and other stuff) does matter if you’re a competitive person. The reason there wasn’t much difference was because he tested a bunch of keyboards that share a lot the same tech, that not surprisingly, results in similar performance numbers.
Just like battlenonsense, if i could afford all the high performing keyboards from different companies we’d make more content on them.
I wonder how this compares to the huntsman v2
I do wonder how this will fare against a good ol' PS/2-input. My hypothesis is that USB can't compete with PS/2-interface
I bet that is not the case in general! If I remember correctly Battlenonsense already checked that in a previous video. USB or PS/2 link is just a part of the total latency.
he tested it with Cherry G80 keyboard. With USB at 125hz 40ms, with PS2 31ms. However cant compare these results with this video results i believe.
I saw a test somewhere, but can't remember where. PS/2 was slower.
I just bought and recieved the k100 its freaking amazing upgrading from 10$ office logitech keyboard xDDD without your videos I never would have thought it was a vaulable and important purchase to decrease my overall system latency
how the new keyboard works for you in warband? and what polling rate are you using for the keyboard when u are playing? im thinking to update my potato keyboard but im worried of how it gonna works in warband, because i was testing with the polling rate of my mouse and a low polling rate (250hz or 125hz) makes feel warband more stable, but at 1000hz polling rate (specially running the game at high framerates) for some reason make my game feels unstable having some strange lags, micro teleports, choppy( i dont know how describe it)
@@BrujoMB Keyboard is awesome, sidesteps more clean and game feels much snappier. I have 8k polling hz mouse and 360hz montior to take advantage of everything. Idk your whole setup so if u dont have a great PC focus on that first. but also if you increase warband over 250fps sometimes it will get choppy based on ur pc
@@TruthSerum ty for the answer probably im gonna change my keyboard and will see, my pc is fine for warband i think( rx580 8gb, i5 10400f, 16gb ram, in to hdd) i just think other people run the game with less problems than me so im trying to find why, so if the mouse polling rate is afecting my game maybe the keyboard will do. Btw is there a big difference beetwen 144hz to 360hz?
Your PC is limiting your ability to run high polling rates most likely. Polling rates take a lot of GPU and CPU power that can lag and affect your game.
There is a big difference between 144hz and 360hz
PLEASE add the apex pro tkl to your measurings, please please please !!!
What about Bloody's keyboards with lightswitchers?
Thank you so much for this testing! Any possibility of being able to check out the new GMMK Pro keyboard from Glorious, or really any Razer keyboard? In razers case, I'm curious to see if Synapse has any effect on the delay, or if delay could be dependent on lighting effects. Thank you for making me want to min/max another part of my system lol
I would love for him to test them too. Especially the affects of synapse.
there was a computer mouse that had deviated polling rate when it’s RGB was on. Sadly, I can’t remember the name of it, but IIRC that deviation was later fixed with a firmware update.
When you press A and then D, what is the delay between A and D? I think this is meaningful.
Watch the video and you can see
@@Iuffycs I didn't find it.
@@HM204DTA In the video, he shows a graph, explaining the latency compared from the Corsair K70 and K100 etc
If you want the best Ultra Low Input Lag keyboard possible, purchase the K70
Test the Cherry MX Board 6.0, its has a patent that translate analog keys to digital for a true 1ms input lag, pls.
that patent is nothing to do with input lag...
@@Steve-ph7qn i am not professional... i just want him to test the input lag of that keyboard...
I would be interested to see a test with custom keyboards
Very good informing video ! Is it possible you can test the AXON on 240hz csgo with fps_max 0-999+ ? Dont need to make a video on but if you can make a google sheets on it or something :D
Now wireless peripherals pls !
Wonder if the Huntsman V2 will be the fastest ?
Why don't gaming input devices have to put their input lag speeds in the specs?
There needs to be a standard first...otherwise everyone will create own optimal test conditions and it wont be comparable
@zeno indeed, and the input lag of a keyboard or mouse can also change over time with FW updates.
They put "polling rate" and 99% of people are too stupid to understand that this doesn't mean input lag, they would have no idea what debounce means. Same as monitors where 99% of people think "response time" being 1ms, means the monitor has 1ms input lag. It's pointless for most people as they are too dumb to understand.
How does a diy keeb with something like a teensy compare?
If mechanical keyboards depend so much on the switches used, shouldn't membrane keyboards be faster and, therefore, better? 🤔
Which corsair k100 is faster the optical one or the one with MX speed ??
optical will be slightly faster, but more important for latency is switch Operating Force (lighter better) which apex pro is king or modded wooting (spring swap for 30-50 start/end force like in apex pro)
Hias, see if you can test the Corsair Sabre RGB Pro, thanks and great video.
Really need to test the apex pro and the new k65 rgb mini.
Please test the Razer Huntsmen Tournament Edition or any Razer keyboard with Razer linear red optical switches.
No razer keyboards like huntsman v2 analog and v2 tkl or mini :(
Scientific test NICE!
Good video
Your numbers are quite different as compared with your previous testing of some of these keyboards.
How is the difference by 4k gaming and 120hz?
can you please test this method on a cheap keyboard? I would like to know how the tecware spectre performed, I think your test is more advanced than the Rtings guy did
Seems Corsair is still ahead of the game when it comes to input lag.
With the cost of those keyboards, I would call that sponsored if you get to keep them. ;)
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But my razor Clicky switches feels so nice
thanks boss
What about the steelseries omnipoint Hall effect switches when set to the same actuation distance? Or even the upcoming wooting HE/Lekker?
If only Corsair keyboards weren’t trash..
why are they trash?
Without statistical significance testing (i.e. p-values) none of these results mean anything. You cannot just conclude that one keyboard is faster than the other because it's average is slightly lower
How about the Engame Gear XM1?
Would be cool if you could test this mouse.
why do you recommend not using pci e cards?
In your opinion is this the best gaming keyboard right now?
you should do a video on escape from tarkovs servers
hi can you make a video on the new nvidia performance panel added in the new 3.22update thanx .
Test the corsair k65
imagine buy a Glorious GMMK and have a big shitty latency lmao
So my wooting lost this battle :)
Will you be making a video about Nvidia Reflex?
Already has
What about ps/2 keyboard with no input lag?
Great test, anyone know the release date of the German version?
How did you set the K100 polling rate to 8kHz? iCUE settings only allows up to 4kHz. EDIT: Apparently they don't offer certain firmware updates or 8kHz polling unless using iCUE4.... what the hell?
I would like to know too
Probably because 8 khz needs additional CPU power, while 4 khz doesn't, and only iCUE 4 supports that. I stayed at 4khz because I don't want to have this CPU hogging software running in the background in any case.
Why not use ps/2?