I drove from Philadelphia to Gettysburg in June and really struggled to find chargers. Where are they (I rented a Genesis that didn’t have Tesla access)? I found a couple of ChargePoint chargers at car dealerships in Lancaster, PA
You spend a lot of time talking about the lack of an app, as if that’s a bad thing. On the contrary, for the majority of the population, the ability to use the station without an app, is not only a huge positive feature, but it’s a requirement. There are a number of things that still need to happen in order to reach high percentages of EV adoption in this country, and charging stations that “just work” is one of them. Having to download a dozen different apps, with abysmal UIs, and hoping that they work when you need them, is the epitome of poor user experience. A simple card reader and an outlet selection screen, or better yet, buttons, is a far superior experience. I’m glad Ionna has figured that out. I hope the other charging networks do as well. I’ve been an EV owner since 2019, currently own two EVs, and will be an all EV household as soon as some manufacturer releases a usable mid-size EV pickup.
That the app is an afterthought is a GOOD thing. We don't need a different app for every brand of gas station, and we shouldn't need a different app for every brand of charger either.
Right. There are EV charging sites that are "EV charging ONLY". Those sites usually have many parking spaces - hundreds in fact, so the ICE cars have plenty of other parking options. But in a convenience store location, like Sheetz, there are only a couple dozen parking spaces, so the EV charging spaces aren't used exclusively for EV charging.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyFlorida has a statute prohibiting an ICE vehicle from blocking an EV charging location. A police officer can issue a traffic citation to the offender. Many EV parking signs in Florida warn potential offenders.
I appreciate the large clear labels identifying the dispensers and connectors available on each. I often have to search for that information even when I am standing directly in front of dispensers. They should be easy to read from your vehicle.
Great video, Tom! We just had a Sheetz open up near our major airport in Romulus, MI. Lots of gas pumps, but no EV charging. Hopefully they give Ionna a look for an update to their property, which seems to have space for an EV charging addition. It’s located near the I-94 freeway going into metro Detroit. Chargers badly needed in this vicinity as EV sales pick up.
Costco just opened a new location in Washington on I-5 and they put in their new chargers. You just tap your Costco card and plug in, no APP no hassle, the best charging experience I have had in 2.5 years. And only .29 kw. When not charging at home this will be my choice, they are supposed to be rolling out nation wide. Plus you can charge 24/7.
Tom thanks for the coverage. Love this type of stuff. Also, really like that yellow plaid shirt you had on in the truck. I was also impressed that you could rattle off all 8 Ionna partners while you were parking the F150. :o)
About the ICE vehicles parking in EV charging spots (paid service), please remember that C-stores like Sheetz have a full quick service restaurant inside. You can easily spend 15 minutes waiting for your food and then another 30 minutes eating. That's 45 minutes of wasted charging time and less money for the C-store in lost sales inside.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I caught a hint from your previous interviews that they're going to go bigger than 10-12. Tesla's 20-charger stations are a dime a dozen nowadays with many stations at 40+ stalls with a grand total of 28,000+. Frankly, IONNA will need to have big stall counts if they're aiming for 30,000 stalls in 5 years.
Great coverage Tom! I made a video on my channel with a visit to the Springfield, Ohio location. I was there prior to it going live, but didn’t see any Ionna representatives there.
Thanks for bringing up ICE parking, I did not realize it was okay especially with Tesla WaWa stations - it's so easy to get outraged when uninformed. Will keep an open mind about that from now on - thanks so much. As always, love your vids and keep up the excellent work.
At my local WaWa store in the Richmond VA area there's too many Teslas there for an Ice to park in front. The store is so close to the hyw Rt. 1 and I-95 that it stays busy . I'm just afraid what's going to happen when all these people with NACS adapters pull up there's definitely going to be a line with frustration. We gonna need more Ionna Evgo EA stations to pick it up on the building out infrastructure in between like Curtis was talking about suburbs and rural areas off the highways is a must.
Agreed on comments re: NO App needed! Should be able to work just like at a gas station. Pull in, plug in, swipe CC and 'FILL-R-UP'! If they're shooting for 30k plus, then they will becoming to every state. Very informative IONNA videos and followups.
Swiping a card to charge is not a bad thing like the ford shirt guy said. Having to download an application on his phone, create an account, then associate his card to that account, and then activate the charger with the app is what would make my dad get the vehicle towed and then sold. They should all be doing it.
I will say looking at plug share there seems to be plenty of chargers . Not sure what is shit and what is not in Vegas but charger count does not seem to be the issue. A year ago when I went with my Tesla I did have to wait one afternoon for 10 minutes but that was it .
@@KyleBrightmanI admit that for being an oil state we are doing good in OK with chargers . Most are less than 100kw but they are chargePoint and at least they’re reliable. Even small towns in Oklahoma have chargers now.. in the last year they’ve spotted like weeds.
It is easily missed if you are a out of towner since it's in the back end side of the Sheetz. Can't really see it well from the main road. Just a heads up from me who is from the area.
The comments on having g charging on 309 was a very valid point. We need more charging on the back corridors. This has been a pain for me as I drive from DFW to San Antonio or any where south. I'd prefer to use back roads, but they don't have much charging on those eggs 287 or 281. Please find some few to cater to that as well.
One downside of having canopies put over stations - it makes it more likely that combustion vehicles will use those spots for the shelter. But it's probably best to just be patient as mentioned, maybe if the spots are further away from the store it'll balance out shelter vs. speed to get into the facility.
I enjoy your videos coving this new charging network. Today (12/30), I had the opportunity to try out the Springfield, OH location that is in public Beta. It is at a Sheetz location as well with 5 chargers. 2x NACS and 3x CCS1. There was only 1 car there at around 2PM. The charging session was just as painless as shown on your videos. The cost was $0.48/kwh so it is pretty reasonable. I only stayed for about 25 min which didn't get me much on my Bolt EUV but I wanted to see a site in person and it is less than 1hr drive so I gave it a try. Very nice location and the Sheetz is awesome!. I have a few pics I can send you if you want them. Keep up the great work. Happy New year!
Feeling very optimistic about this new network. EVgo and EA have both been the "Walmart version" of the Supercharger network, often literally. This seems like it has the potential to offer Superchargers healthy competition for the first time.
No idle fees is an awful idea. Astronomical idle fees should be the norm. Until there is a surplus of chargers blocking chargers should be severely discouraged.
@@danieldaniels7571Cameras and tickets. You get like a 5 minute grace period just in case there's no other parking and you really need to stop in. Only problem is you'd have to have someone reviewing tape to issue the tickets. Unless you can use some kind of AI to look at the spot and monitor if the space is using charging. Same goes for charging idle fees at a busy station, you get a grace period of like 5 minutes at $1/m or something. But then it really ramps up after that like $3/m after 5 minutes and $5/m after 10 minutes. Up to a maximum of like $100 or something. Don't want to financially wreck someone because of some unforeseen circumstance or emergency.
As long as they are as fast as they say they are. 30,000 plugs or dispensers in 5 years is faster than Tesla's buildout. 4 more locations are opening soon but they need to ramp up FAST.
Tom, thanks for explaining the ICE rules for Tesla Superchargers at Wawa because I saw that a lot on my vacation at the Shore last Summer. I was very angry about it. I feel better now.
2:29 There is one listed at the Sheetz in Willoughby OH. That is just east of Cleveland on I90. They have partnered with Sheetz, which will be great for me as I'm in the heart of Sheetz country.
@@InitialT-tm- That would be fantastic, and at the same time nearly impossible to cover. Tesla alone averages opening at least a couple of mid-size sites per week, and they're usually installing 12 or more of all V4 stalls per site now. Then you have EA now partening with Costco who doesn't mess around with small stall counts. You also have the Flying J sites openings all over. And now IONNA has entered the mix. I would say that at least 3 to 4 mid-size charging sites open up every week in America alone. Along with an occasional huge site from Tesla. How can anyone possibly cover all that? On top of it getting boring real fast with that many per week. I would say that this was very appropriate for IONNA, who is well aware of the big profits that both Tesla and IONITY are making, and is really serious about it.
EV’s and the supporting infrastructure are in their nascent stage of “life.” Not unlike in the early 1900’s when automobiles were just coming into existence and replacing horses and buggies. When purchasing an EV too many people want to jump in and act as though they’re just switching gas for electric, and get on with life as they knew it. It’s gonna be awhile until EV’s and the infrastructure are robust enough to satisfy the “average” driver. Until then, I’m OK being unusual as an EV owner, and loving my Lightning and learning more about EV’s each week that I drive it.
great video here is fyi for ICE peeps.. Lung cancer in young nonsmokers is on the rise: Uncovering the cause; Vehicle Exhaust. What are the symptoms of lung cancer in nonsmokers? Mostly none…Car Exhaust contains over 40 poisons that go into our Lungs Blood.. And Brain.. Of these, the following most harmful substances are taken into account: Carbon monoxide, CO, harmful contaminant contained in the exhaust Hydrocarbons (HC), harmful pollutants and smog-forming substances Oxides of nitrogen, NOx, harmful pollutants and smog-forming substances Oxides of sulfur, harmful pollutants
ICE vehicles should be towed out of the ev charging space. Could you imagine Ev's blocking gas or DIEsel pumps. All hell would break out. Ionna needs to add ONLY to the sign.😊
In sites where EV charging stalls are "EV Charging only", I agree. But in all of the convenience store locations, that policy cannot be enforced and would be unreasonable. The stores (WaWa, Quick Chek, Sheetz, Cum & Go, etc) would never agree to that policy, so we'd never get the chargers at these very convenient locations with restrooms, food, etc.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney remember that convenience stores like Sheetz have a sit down quick service restaurant inside. Someone could literally spending >30 minutes inside. Someone ICE-ing a charging space could be inside for longer than someone would charge.
Our main gas station stores in my area are Kwik Trips... and their parking areas are too few, thus, store shoppers block the filling stalls, not allowing ice vehicles to get gasoline! Irks me a lot!
Tom you don't want apps, just look at Europe and Bjorn has even had a rant video about the number of Apps he has plus his RFID cards. Credit card and plug & charge/autocharge are definitely the better way.
re: "That’s a little disappointing as some folks will park there as a “statement”. it is what it is, though not as bad as you think. the new Wawa built nearly within walking distance of my house has Tesla Superchargers which (for better or worse) have to share the space with Gas customers patronizing the convenience store. but see this ALSO works the OPPOSITE way as well, for if/when the Tesla Bros are "mobbed up" at the chargers (which obviously NONE are there for a quick turnaround) the Gas drivers are "displaced" and "SOL" and have to either drive around to the other side of the building to park...? or "do laps" until a parking spot opens up...? from my observation the last 2 years, neither group appears to be getting terribly inconvenienced by this "shared arrangement" (and if they are...? well then they need to LEARN TO SHARE anyway the greedy bastards).
Although EV charging networks are growing quickly, the Toyota bZ4X distinguishes out due to its effective range and network compatibility, which guarantee drivers freedom and convenience wherever they go.
Isn't it ironic that Ford isn't a part of this consortium, yet this site was full of Lightnings. And I do wish that these convinience store chains get more stringent on chargers being ICE'd. As more and more people begin to charge there, and they see all the extra business they're getting from people being there longer than ICE drivers, I hope they wake up and smell the money.
re: "Isn't it ironic that Ford isn't a part of this consortium". it is. re: "yet this site was full of Lightnings." ikr...? knock knock Farley... is this thing on...?
Recommendation for the ChargePoint integration: we need a filter so we can solo out Ionna right now it’s only available if you select all networks which makes it difficult to isolate it with the other high power networks. Also not being able to limit by charging power is a big miss but that’s chargepoints issue
Just went to the Willoughby Ohio location to check it out great looking equipment. Worked as it should I6 40% to 80% in under 20min without preparing the battery.
re: "Worked as it should I6 40% to 80% in under 20min without preparing the battery." well of course it's NEW, and understandably everything works great when new. however same as all the pre-existing EA, EVGO, Chargepoint (and other random DCFC names) already connected to the grid and in the ground, the REAL TEST comes when you go back there to charge 1, 2, and 3 years from now. yeah, will you have a "Supercharger-like" experience...? or (ironically also like Tesla) will you go there only to discover that the World's Newest Ionna DCFC Support Team has been told... "YOU'RE FIRED...!!!" (best deranged Elon/Trump mashup)
Once the canopies are installed, those spots will be "premium" parking and ICE vehicle blocking will have a significant impact. As others noted, try parking in front of a diesel pump to use the convenience store; ICE pickup drivers will not patiently wait for you to leave. The other aspect to "patiently waiting" for an ICE vehicle to leave the charger is that typical charger setups do not have an obvious "who is next" if multiple people are waiting.
I’ve lived in NJ the vast majority of my life, don’t really like Wawa or QuickCheck, but I do like Sheetz when visiting family in Pennsylvania. They partner with Tesla and ElectrifyAmerica at two different Sheetz in State College, PA - both worked great. I also like the GM Ultium site at the Pilot/FlyingJ on 81/78.
So if it’s a busy time where all the EV stalls are occupied including a few ICE vehicles and I needed to charge, can I double park with an ICE vehicle and use a DC fast charging extension cord to charge?
Existing convenience stores have got to be a huge opportunity for charge locations. For the time being most people needing a charge are going to be waiting there for 20 to 40 minutes. That's going to be really significant opportunity to sell more merchandise, otherwise most customers spend like four or five minutes there. These companies rack their brains for ways to increase consumer dwell time by 20-30%. This is an opportunity to increase it by 400 - 500%.
So far I like their business model to always setup in good locations that are well lit and have some sort of amenities. That is my one beef with Tesla. I personally haven't been to many Tesla sites where I didn't have access to a restroom or food options but I have seen plenty of road trip videos where that is a fact. So the more we have sites setup in places like this the better. I live here in Virginia and very familiar with Sheetz. It's a decent place for convenience and a quick made to order kiosk. And their prices are reasonable.
If the iONNA app offers no clear benefits, I’ll just keep using my ChargePoint app which, where I live and travel, gets lots of use! We have NO Electrify America stations in my entire state, so CP is high on my convenience & reliability list.
Ionna is supposed to open a rechargery near me in Tempe at Scottsdale Road right off Loop 202. I haven't seen a date for opening, though. Hopefully they do better than EA, who put in chargers at 44th St & Thomas at the Arcadia Crossing shopping center like 3 years ago, and still haven't got them operating yet.
Didn’t Kyle say there will be no iONNA app, that they will use plug and charge, credit card, as well as charge functionality in partner apps like Kia Access?
VERY early days and too soon to tell, but if IONNA is successful, it will be interesting to see if and how it impacts Electrify America. I wonder if IONNA could eventually spell the death knell for Electrify America, primarily based on reliability and ease of use. It remains totally baffling why Electrify America cannot manage to get its act together no matter what assurances they always seem to give you during your interviews with them, Tom.
To be fair, Electrify America has been doing better lately, IMO. They are updating older sites with new equipment (that is working well) and also adding new sites.
The easy going parking policies only encourage inconsiderate people to be jerks. EV stalls should all be treated like a handicap spot or a fireplug, no tolerance.
Just let me tap a credit card and charge-up! The gas station model works great! If it turns out I’ll habitually charge somewhere, then maybe I’ll look for an app.
well Tobias in Germany says this IS a "Truck Location"...😅 (hint: being an "occupational hazard" of the profession regardless of what Country you're in, those wanting to be Commercial Drivers don't get to complain about a "life of drop and hook" for if you've not gotten used to it while driving Diesels...? then it simply suggests you might want to seek a career change).
More charging Networks, more capacity, greater ability for all with BEV's to move further into mainstream adoption! Keep reporting on these opening to combat the FUD which pervades much of the Corporate Media who primarily like the sensational story of BEV failure/disaster.
Im all about the Tesla chargers with my new Adapter. F all these other charging companies and their horrible chargers that constantly have broken chargers, extreme fluctuations in charge speeds, and random stops when you happen to be away from your vehicle. Oh and the 10 apps cause of all the different companies. Lets see how these ionna chargers go 🤞🙏
Pre-authorizing $50 or more can be a turn off when choosing a network. Tesla in MN will pre-charge $20, which is fine. Circle K pre-charges $50 each time which can add up quickly if you have to stop at more than one site per day when traveling. $75 is ridiculous.
Woah my wife and I were just talking about Ionna's Scranton location. We just said "We know it won't be available before our trip to Vermont in Jan '25." What a surprise this is! I will definitely stop by with our EV6 :)
Thanks for covering this. Only four locations? I'd like to see the list of planned locations for 2025. Their website shows none of that. If charging rates double or triple, the amount of time spent at chargers may be closer to what is experienced with a gas fill up, and people wont need to linger as long.
Do you think there's any chance that Ford would eventually be a part of Ionna? There's probably no way we'll get it as part of BlueOval for plug and charge right?
Personally, yes. I believe Ford will join Ionna. I have no proof or inside information, but to me, it makes all the sense for Ford to join. That's why I think it will happen.
We got some new gas pumps in across town. No one initiated a party for this event because gas pumps are everywhere, and they all work. EV owners can't even realize how ridiculous they are, so I just pointed out this comparison of gas to EV Charger.
Gas pumps aren't located in regular parking spaces that were repurposed for EV charging as is the case in these convenience stores that add EV chargers. Gas pumps aren't "parking spots"; there's no painted lines or handicap dedicated spaces. That said, sure, if someone parked an EV in front of a gas pump and walked into the store to use the restroom or buy something, I doubt anyone would say anything.
When i type on google maps in miami Ionna or Ionna charging station it shows a temporary closed one only. On the entire states only one and temporarily closed. I mean what's the hype all about? What am i missing here. I need to charge a tesla in Miami is that the future?
The network literally just opened 2 days ago - and only 4 of it's locations. Google will take a couple of days to update and show the stations as open. I'm sure they will eventually have sites in or near Miami, but that hasn't been announced yet
Shell Recharge is leaving the EV charger software market, as announced today. Probably a good topic for your channel or Batteries Included. Can't say I'm surprised Shell, a fossil fuel company, is causing disruptions in EV charging.
Interesting. Bit skeptical of all these legacy auto companies who still get the bulk of their sales from toxic tailpipe vehicles... and therefore have a vested interest in this failing... but we will see.
re: "C'mon, Wawa, let's get some chargers!" you're kidding right...? curious where are you located exactly, because around here (admittedly Wawa's HQ) aside from one new EVGO install the Wawa Megacorp's already long "gotten in bed" with Tesla Corp. in their defense this was before Elon went FULL CORRUPT ROBBER BARRON.
This location will have a covered canopy eventually. I'm Curtis in the interview
I drove from Philadelphia to Gettysburg in June and really struggled to find chargers. Where are they (I rented a Genesis that didn’t have Tesla access)? I found a couple of ChargePoint chargers at car dealerships in Lancaster, PA
Thanks, Curtis, I did not know that!
Hi Curtis. Thanks for filling us in!
Woo Hoo!
Thank you so much. This is the experience that we should have. Tired of this cheap wire off method that is being put up by businesses.
You spend a lot of time talking about the lack of an app, as if that’s a bad thing. On the contrary, for the majority of the population, the ability to use the station without an app, is not only a huge positive feature, but it’s a requirement. There are a number of things that still need to happen in order to reach high percentages of EV adoption in this country, and charging stations that “just work” is one of them. Having to download a dozen different apps, with abysmal UIs, and hoping that they work when you need them, is the epitome of poor user experience. A simple card reader and an outlet selection screen, or better yet, buttons, is a far superior experience. I’m glad Ionna has figured that out. I hope the other charging networks do as well. I’ve been an EV owner since 2019, currently own two EVs, and will be an all EV household as soon as some manufacturer releases a usable mid-size EV pickup.
I came to the comments to say this!
I agree, I don’t want to fight with an app I may never use again!
That the app is an afterthought is a GOOD thing. We don't need a different app for every brand of gas station, and we shouldn't need a different app for every brand of charger either.
The Costco in Clermont, Florida has a sign up that says if you are an ICE car and you park in those EA stations, you will be towed.
Right. There are EV charging sites that are "EV charging ONLY". Those sites usually have many parking spaces - hundreds in fact, so the ICE cars have plenty of other parking options. But in a convenience store location, like Sheetz, there are only a couple dozen parking spaces, so the EV charging spaces aren't used exclusively for EV charging.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyFlorida has a statute prohibiting an ICE vehicle from blocking an EV charging location. A police officer can issue a traffic citation to the offender. Many EV parking signs in Florida warn potential offenders.
I love Costco for a whole lot of reasons, and this is one of those reasons.
@@lyledal Same although I don't like how I go there planning to buy only 3 items, but I walk out with 10. 😊
Thanks for asking Ionna Rep about pull through
Good video for the beta opening! I really wish IONNA the best and hope they proliferate like crazy in 2025. Thank, Tom.
I went to the Springfield, OH one. I was able to see them and start charging using the ChargePoint app.
I appreciate the large clear labels identifying the dispensers and connectors available on each. I often have to search for that information even when I am standing directly in front of dispensers. They should be easy to read from your vehicle.
Great video, Tom! We just had a Sheetz open up near our major airport in Romulus, MI. Lots of gas pumps, but no EV charging. Hopefully they give Ionna a look for an update to their property, which seems to have space for an EV charging addition. It’s located near the I-94 freeway going into metro Detroit. Chargers badly needed in this vicinity as EV sales pick up.
Agree on the food and restroom. Everytime I go charge I look for some type of food or drink.
I look for a place to poop
Costco just opened a new location in Washington on I-5 and they put in their new chargers. You just tap your Costco card and plug in, no APP no hassle, the best charging experience I have had in 2.5 years. And only .29 kw. When not charging at home this will be my choice, they are supposed to be rolling out nation wide. Plus you can charge 24/7.
I vlogged about the Springfield site. It was a great experience! I hope Ionna comes to Indiana. We need good competition!
Indiana needs Ionna!
Tom thanks for the coverage. Love this type of stuff. Also, really like that yellow plaid shirt you had on in the truck. I was also impressed that you could rattle off all 8 Ionna partners while you were parking the F150. :o)
Thanks. I got the shirt at Orvis: www.orvis.com/men/clothing
About the ICE vehicles parking in EV charging spots (paid service), please remember that C-stores like Sheetz have a full quick service restaurant inside. You can easily spend 15 minutes waiting for your food and then another 30 minutes eating. That's 45 minutes of wasted charging time and less money for the C-store in lost sales inside.
Thanks Tom, this was in my opinion a worthwhile trip to get more of a feel for IONNA
Love to see it! The biggest thing here is the amount of charging spaces available. The 4 units at a site doesn't cut it anymore.
They will average 10 to 12 stalls per location. Personally, I wish it were a little more, like 14-16.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney agreed with that number.
There are 5. 2 NACS and 3 CCS. So 10 total charging spots. They are using the back side section of this Sheetz. No room to really fit any more.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I caught a hint from your previous interviews that they're going to go bigger than 10-12. Tesla's 20-charger stations are a dime a dozen nowadays with many stations at 40+ stalls with a grand total of 28,000+. Frankly, IONNA will need to have big stall counts if they're aiming for 30,000 stalls in 5 years.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyfor the 400kw hardware IONNA is using are their logical sizes for charging sites based on permitting and transformers?
Great coverage Tom! I made a video on my channel with a visit to the Springfield, Ohio location. I was there prior to it going live, but didn’t see any Ionna representatives there.
Thanks for bringing up ICE parking, I did not realize it was okay especially with Tesla WaWa stations - it's so easy to get outraged when uninformed. Will keep an open mind about that from now on - thanks so much. As always, love your vids and keep up the excellent work.
At my local WaWa store in the Richmond VA area there's too many Teslas there for an Ice to park in front. The store is so close to the hyw Rt. 1 and I-95 that it stays busy . I'm just afraid what's going to happen when all these people with NACS adapters pull up there's definitely going to be a line with frustration. We gonna need more Ionna Evgo EA stations to pick it up on the building out infrastructure in between like Curtis was talking about suburbs and rural areas off the highways is a must.
In Florida there's a Florida statute that will fine drivers of ICE cars parked in the EV spots
Agreed on comments re: NO App needed! Should be able to work just like at a gas station. Pull in, plug in, swipe CC and 'FILL-R-UP'! If they're shooting for 30k plus, then they will becoming to every state. Very informative IONNA videos and followups.
Thanks for coming out to Scranton Tom and making a video about this great site! 🎉
Swiping a card to charge is not a bad thing like the ford shirt guy said. Having to download an application on his phone, create an account, then associate his card to that account, and then activate the charger with the app is what would make my dad get the vehicle towed and then sold. They should all be doing it.
Or at least an option to swipe a card.
I would love if they focus on filling in gaps from other networks, and less covered areas.
Here in vegas we have nothing. Sun 360 days a year great weather for EV’s and no chargers. WHY are all the chargers in the shit areas of country?
Uhhhhhhh I've charged in Vegas.... didn't have to wait...not sure what you're talking about....
I will say looking at plug share there seems to be plenty of chargers . Not sure what is shit and what is not in Vegas but charger count does not seem to be the issue. A year ago when I went with my Tesla I did have to wait one afternoon for 10 minutes but that was it .
You mean the entire state of West Virginia?
@@KyleBrightmanI admit that for being an oil state we are doing good in OK with chargers . Most are less than 100kw but they are chargePoint and at least they’re reliable. Even small towns in Oklahoma have chargers now.. in the last year they’ve spotted like weeds.
Great info. It was helpful to know that IONNA can be activated with the ChargePoint app. That can be handy if the card readers are down.
Good to know, as I already have that app
Good to know. I prefer charge cards over apps.
I'm tempted to take a road trip out to Scranton just so I can enjoy the iOnna experience! It's only about 220 miles for me. Could be fun!
It is easily missed if you are a out of towner since it's in the back end side of the Sheetz. Can't really see it well from the main road. Just a heads up from me who is from the area.
Yeah. Sounds like a good road trip. I'm going to check it out!!
@@PowerNGlory Thanks!
The comments on having g charging on 309 was a very valid point. We need more charging on the back corridors. This has been a pain for me as I drive from DFW to San Antonio or any where south. I'd prefer to use back roads, but they don't have much charging on those eggs 287 or 281. Please find some few to cater to that as well.
One downside of having canopies put over stations - it makes it more likely that combustion vehicles will use those spots for the shelter. But it's probably best to just be patient as mentioned, maybe if the spots are further away from the store it'll balance out shelter vs. speed to get into the facility.
I was hoping for a reunion with your charging site buddy, Marques Brownlee!
Markeees couldn't make it 😁
I enjoy your videos coving this new charging network. Today (12/30), I had the opportunity to try out the Springfield, OH location that is in public Beta. It is at a Sheetz location as well with 5 chargers. 2x NACS and 3x CCS1. There was only 1 car there at around 2PM. The charging session was just as painless as shown on your videos. The cost was $0.48/kwh so it is pretty reasonable. I only stayed for about 25 min which didn't get me much on my Bolt EUV but I wanted to see a site in person and it is less than 1hr drive so I gave it a try. Very nice location and the Sheetz is awesome!. I have a few pics I can send you if you want them. Keep up the great work. Happy New year!
I’m so excited about Ionna. I just saw on PlugShare that they are opening one near me in Fruita, Colorado.
Feeling very optimistic about this new network. EVgo and EA have both been the "Walmart version" of the Supercharger network, often literally. This seems like it has the potential to offer Superchargers healthy competition for the first time.
Make it so!
No idle fees is an awful idea. Astronomical idle fees should be the norm. Until there is a surplus of chargers blocking chargers should be severely discouraged.
Now if only there was a way to charge the ICE vehicles that block chargers
@@danieldaniels7571Cameras and tickets. You get like a 5 minute grace period just in case there's no other parking and you really need to stop in. Only problem is you'd have to have someone reviewing tape to issue the tickets. Unless you can use some kind of AI to look at the spot and monitor if the space is using charging.
Same goes for charging idle fees at a busy station, you get a grace period of like 5 minutes at $1/m or something. But then it really ramps up after that like $3/m after 5 minutes and $5/m after 10 minutes. Up to a maximum of like $100 or something. Don't want to financially wreck someone because of some unforeseen circumstance or emergency.
Me and my brother went to the Apex NC site. Having the canopy was really nice since it started to rain a little bit.
Looks like the Tesla Supercharging network has got some real competition now
As long as they are as fast as they say they are. 30,000 plugs or dispensers in 5 years is faster than Tesla's buildout. 4 more locations are opening soon but they need to ramp up FAST.
This is a great location. I make trips from upstate New York to Philadelphia and there aren't many convenient DC fast chargers in the Scranton area.
I agree
Great Alpitronic chargers. Together with Kempower the best chargers in the world.
Tom, thanks for explaining the ICE rules for Tesla Superchargers at Wawa because I saw that a lot on my vacation at the Shore last Summer. I was very angry about it. I feel better now.
2:29 There is one listed at the Sheetz in Willoughby OH. That is just east of Cleveland on I90. They have partnered with Sheetz, which will be great for me as I'm in the heart of Sheetz country.
As long as any space is available for parking am I able to park in the gas space closest to the store to go in and get my pack of gum????
I do that with my EV6 whenever I know it's going to take me a while to take a dump. Then I come out and leisurely wash my windows.
Ionna getting a lot of good publicity on this channel. I would like to see this level of hype for the opening of any new mid-size charging site.
I would love to cover ALL EV charging installations, but my bandwidth is always a problem
@@InitialT-tm- That would be fantastic, and at the same time nearly impossible to cover. Tesla alone averages opening at least a couple of mid-size sites per week, and they're usually installing 12 or more of all V4 stalls per site now. Then you have EA now partening with Costco who doesn't mess around with small stall counts. You also have the Flying J sites openings all over. And now IONNA has entered the mix.
I would say that at least 3 to 4 mid-size charging sites open up every week in America alone. Along with an occasional huge site from Tesla. How can anyone possibly cover all that? On top of it getting boring real fast with that many per week. I would say that this was very appropriate for IONNA, who is well aware of the big profits that both Tesla and IONITY are making, and is really serious about it.
EV’s and the supporting infrastructure are in their nascent stage of “life.” Not unlike in the early 1900’s when automobiles were just coming into existence and replacing horses and buggies. When purchasing an EV too many people want to jump in and act as though they’re just switching gas for electric, and get on with life as they knew it. It’s gonna be awhile until EV’s and the infrastructure are robust enough to satisfy the “average” driver. Until then, I’m OK being unusual as an EV owner, and loving my Lightning and learning more about EV’s each week that I drive it.
great video here is fyi for ICE peeps..
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ICE vehicles should be towed out of the ev charging space. Could you imagine Ev's blocking gas or DIEsel pumps. All hell would break out. Ionna needs to add ONLY to the sign.😊
In sites where EV charging stalls are "EV Charging only", I agree. But in all of the convenience store locations, that policy cannot be enforced and would be unreasonable. The stores (WaWa, Quick Chek, Sheetz, Cum & Go, etc) would never agree to that policy, so we'd never get the chargers at these very convenient locations with restrooms, food, etc.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyI wonder why wouldn't they agree to it? Having the chargers unavailable due to ICE'ing feels insane.
Are these parking lots really small or something?
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney remember that convenience stores like Sheetz have a sit down quick service restaurant inside. Someone could literally spending >30 minutes inside. Someone ICE-ing a charging space could be inside for longer than someone would charge.
@@redhat421just park in front of a gas pump while you wait for the ICE to quit blocking the charger.
Great to see and hoping to see them expand into Georgia.
Our main gas station stores in my area are Kwik Trips... and their parking areas are too few, thus, store shoppers block the filling stalls, not allowing ice vehicles to get gasoline! Irks me a lot!
I am currently at Springfield location,second stop here today.
Tom you don't want apps, just look at Europe and Bjorn has even had a rant video about the number of Apps he has plus his RFID cards. Credit card and plug & charge/autocharge are definitely the better way.
I can’t see the parking situation going over well at peak travel hours. That’s a little disappointing as some folks will park there as a “statement”
re: "That’s a little disappointing as some folks will park there as a “statement”. it is what it is, though not as bad as you think. the new Wawa built nearly within walking distance of my house has Tesla Superchargers which (for better or worse) have to share the space with Gas customers patronizing the convenience store. but see this ALSO works the OPPOSITE way as well, for if/when the Tesla Bros are "mobbed up" at the chargers (which obviously NONE are there for a quick turnaround) the Gas drivers are "displaced" and "SOL" and have to either drive around to the other side of the building to park...? or "do laps" until a parking spot opens up...?
from my observation the last 2 years, neither group appears to be getting terribly inconvenienced by this "shared arrangement" (and if they are...? well then they need to LEARN TO SHARE anyway the greedy bastards).
Although EV charging networks are growing quickly, the Toyota bZ4X distinguishes out due to its effective range and network compatibility, which guarantee drivers freedom and convenience wherever they go.
The actual range is a miss.
Isn't it ironic that Ford isn't a part of this consortium, yet this site was full of Lightnings.
And I do wish that these convinience store chains get more stringent on chargers being ICE'd. As more and more people begin to charge there, and they see all the extra business they're getting from people being there longer than ICE drivers, I hope they wake up and smell the money.
re: "Isn't it ironic that Ford isn't a part of this consortium". it is. re: "yet this site was full of Lightnings." ikr...? knock knock Farley... is this thing on...?
should be ticked to park an ice in an ev spot
Recommendation for the ChargePoint integration: we need a filter so we can solo out Ionna right now it’s only available if you select all networks which makes it difficult to isolate it with the other high power networks. Also not being able to limit by charging power is a big miss but that’s chargepoints issue
Thank you!
Just went to the Willoughby Ohio location to check it out great looking equipment. Worked as it should I6 40% to 80% in under 20min without preparing the battery.
re: "Worked as it should I6 40% to 80% in under 20min without preparing the battery." well of course it's NEW, and understandably everything works great when new. however same as all the pre-existing EA, EVGO, Chargepoint (and other random DCFC names) already connected to the grid and in the ground, the REAL TEST comes when you go back there to charge 1, 2, and 3 years from now. yeah, will you have a "Supercharger-like" experience...? or (ironically also like Tesla) will you go there only to discover that the World's Newest Ionna DCFC Support Team has been told... "YOU'RE FIRED...!!!" (best deranged Elon/Trump mashup)
Once the canopies are installed, those spots will be "premium" parking and ICE vehicle blocking will have a significant impact. As others noted, try parking in front of a diesel pump to use the convenience store; ICE pickup drivers will not patiently wait for you to leave. The other aspect to "patiently waiting" for an ICE vehicle to leave the charger is that typical charger setups do not have an obvious "who is next" if multiple people are waiting.
I’ve lived in NJ the vast majority of my life, don’t really like Wawa or QuickCheck, but I do like Sheetz when visiting family in Pennsylvania. They partner with Tesla and ElectrifyAmerica at two different Sheetz in State College, PA - both worked great. I also like the GM Ultium site at the Pilot/FlyingJ on 81/78.
It's happening. 2025 is going to be a big year for EVs
not if the magats have a say.
So if it’s a busy time where all the EV stalls are occupied including a few ICE vehicles and I needed to charge, can I double park with an ICE vehicle and use a DC fast charging extension cord to charge?
Why not be the adult and just waith the 3-5 minutes for the person to leave
Just wait in front of a gas pump and wash your windows until they move.
Existing convenience stores have got to be a huge opportunity for charge locations. For the time being most people needing a charge are going to be waiting there for 20 to 40 minutes. That's going to be really significant opportunity to sell more merchandise, otherwise most customers spend like four or five minutes there. These companies rack their brains for ways to increase consumer dwell time by 20-30%. This is an opportunity to increase it by 400 - 500%.
So far I like their business model to always setup in good locations that are well lit and have some sort of amenities. That is my one beef with Tesla. I personally haven't been to many Tesla sites where I didn't have access to a restroom or food options but I have seen plenty of road trip videos where that is a fact. So the more we have sites setup in places like this the better. I live here in Virginia and very familiar with Sheetz. It's a decent place for convenience and a quick made to order kiosk. And their prices are reasonable.
Pull through. 🎉
I like your reminder to be cool with ICE cars in a location like this, Tom. You're right. Not worth getting worked up about.
If the iONNA app offers no clear benefits, I’ll just keep using my ChargePoint app which, where I live and travel, gets lots of use! We have NO Electrify America stations in my entire state, so CP is high on my convenience & reliability list.
Same here. ChargePoint has many conveniently located free L2 chargers near me.
Loving the Ionna charger places. Wondering if Florida will get some.
Another RUclipsr said canopy may be built later but to Sheetz colours/requirements
EVs are allowed to park at gas station pump spots, too, if you need to run in and buy something or wash your windshield, right?
Of course!
The canopies are coming.
Ionna is supposed to open a rechargery near me in Tempe at Scottsdale Road right off Loop 202. I haven't seen a date for opening, though. Hopefully they do better than EA, who put in chargers at 44th St & Thomas at the Arcadia Crossing shopping center like 3 years ago, and still haven't got them operating yet.
Never seen ICE cars parking at DC chargers here in Norway. I guess most people are polite and understand those slots are for charging EVs.
@@Gazer75 Correct. There are a ton of ass-wipes in America. But it's still not as bad as what the dawning of the automobile faced a century ago.
Didn’t Kyle say there will be no iONNA app, that they will use plug and charge, credit card, as well as charge functionality in partner apps like Kia Access?
VERY early days and too soon to tell, but if IONNA is successful, it will be interesting to see if and how it impacts Electrify America. I wonder if IONNA could eventually spell the death knell for Electrify America, primarily based on reliability and ease of use. It remains totally baffling why Electrify America cannot manage to get its act together no matter what assurances they always seem to give you during your interviews with them, Tom.
To be fair, Electrify America has been doing better lately, IMO. They are updating older sites with new equipment (that is working well) and also adding new sites.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney That is really great to know. Thank you Tom
The easy going parking policies only encourage inconsiderate people to be jerks. EV stalls should all be treated like a handicap spot or a fireplug, no tolerance.
Lots of conflicting opinions to accommodate in this emerging space. No app required is great IMO!
Just let me tap a credit card and charge-up! The gas station model works great! If it turns out I’ll habitually charge somewhere, then maybe I’ll look for an app.
Yahhhhhhh they are finally opening up other stores places!! Come to Michigan
Any Truck location's on the way ?
well Tobias in Germany says this IS a "Truck Location"...😅 (hint: being an "occupational hazard" of the profession regardless of what Country you're in, those wanting to be Commercial Drivers don't get to complain about a "life of drop and hook" for if you've not gotten used to it while driving Diesels...? then it simply suggests you might want to seek a career change).
When are they coming to Canada and install along trans Canada highway? From what I’ve seen Petro Canada doesn’t keep them serviced “Trucked up EV”.
More charging Networks, more capacity, greater ability for all with BEV's to move further into mainstream adoption! Keep reporting on these opening to combat the FUD which pervades much of the Corporate Media who primarily like the sensational story of BEV failure/disaster.
Come to Las Vegas. We have a few 6.6kw chargers. It’s awesome charging experience here.
They will
There are haters that will block an EV charger no matter what.
Yep. Just ignore them. They'll go away
Im all about the Tesla chargers with my new Adapter. F all these other charging companies and their horrible chargers that constantly have broken chargers, extreme fluctuations in charge speeds, and random stops when you happen to be away from your vehicle. Oh and the 10 apps cause of all the different companies.
Lets see how these ionna chargers go 🤞🙏
Pre-authorizing $50 or more can be a turn off when choosing a network. Tesla in MN will pre-charge $20, which is fine. Circle K pre-charges $50 each time which can add up quickly if you have to stop at more than one site per day when traveling. $75 is ridiculous.
Tom great video and thank you for sharing and posting. Does IONNA chargers show up in PlugShare and/or Google Maps??!!
I don't think so yet, but it will very soon
I just saw the Scranton site on plugshare today (12/29)
Great video. Will Ionna honor the Hyundai free charging program ? Or is that exclusive to EA?
We need Ionna in Florida, the 2nd biggest EV state. Western Florida has too few DC fast chargers.
Do you know if the Charge Point card will work? Great video. 😊
It should. Ionna said the network will "roam" meaning customers of other networks can use their network cards to activate a charging session.
@ thanks
Woah my wife and I were just talking about Ionna's Scranton location. We just said "We know it won't be available before our trip to Vermont in Jan '25."
What a surprise this is! I will definitely stop by with our EV6 :)
Bend Oregon needs one of these in the worst way.
Appreciate your vids Tom. Why do you want an Ionna app? Much easier to tap card to initiate a session.
For membership pricing.
Great video, tells viewers to not be mad at ICE cars while carefully showing the lic plate. Hehe
Thanks for covering this. Only four locations? I'd like to see the list of planned locations for 2025. Their website shows none of that. If charging rates double or triple, the amount of time spent at chargers may be closer to what is experienced with a gas fill up, and people wont need to linger as long.
The website has their first ten locations listed. They will add more as they come close to opening. www.ionna.com/rechargeries/
Sheetz are by me in york pa
Do you think there's any chance that Ford would eventually be a part of Ionna? There's probably no way we'll get it as part of BlueOval for plug and charge right?
Personally, yes. I believe Ford will join Ionna. I have no proof or inside information, but to me, it makes all the sense for Ford to join. That's why I think it will happen.
Hopefully Ionna will bring chargers to the West. California has the largest number of EV’s and until NACS is THE standard, we need more CCS1 chargers.
They're opening one soon in Tempe, Arizona
You realize AZ is not California.
@ do you realize AZ is part of the West?
We got some new gas pumps in across town. No one initiated a party for this event because gas pumps are everywhere, and they all work. EV owners can't even realize how ridiculous they are, so I just pointed out this comparison of gas to EV Charger.
Is it also ok to park an EV at a gas pump there while you go in for something?
Gas pumps aren't located in regular parking spaces that were repurposed for EV charging as is the case in these convenience stores that add EV chargers. Gas pumps aren't "parking spots"; there's no painted lines or handicap dedicated spaces. That said, sure, if someone parked an EV in front of a gas pump and walked into the store to use the restroom or buy something, I doubt anyone would say anything.
When i type on google maps in miami Ionna or Ionna charging station it shows a temporary closed one only. On the entire states only one and temporarily closed. I mean what's the hype all about? What am i missing here. I need to charge a tesla in Miami is that the future?
The network literally just opened 2 days ago - and only 4 of it's locations. Google will take a couple of days to update and show the stations as open. I'm sure they will eventually have sites in or near Miami, but that hasn't been announced yet
Shell Recharge is leaving the EV charger software market, as announced today. Probably a good topic for your channel or Batteries Included. Can't say I'm surprised Shell, a fossil fuel company, is causing disruptions in EV charging.
Are you still enjoying your F150 Lighning?
Absolutely
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Do you have an update to ownership video coming soon? Feel like you have had it for two years ish?
@@bananapudding8275 I just turned 30,000 miles so I think that's a good round number to do an update on
@ thanks!! I look forward to watching
Interesting. Bit skeptical of all these legacy auto companies who still get the bulk of their sales from toxic tailpipe vehicles... and therefore have a vested interest in this failing... but we will see.
C'mon, Wawa, let's get some chargers!
re: "C'mon, Wawa, let's get some chargers!" you're kidding right...? curious where are you located exactly, because around here (admittedly Wawa's HQ) aside from one new EVGO install the Wawa Megacorp's already long "gotten in bed" with Tesla Corp. in their defense this was before Elon went FULL CORRUPT ROBBER BARRON.
Hey Ionna, Exit 123 US 70, Indiana. Please