The Best of Phase 4 - Wakanda Forever
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Hey! How ya doin’? I hope you’re doin’ well! Black Panther Wakanda Forever shocked me.
I’ve always been a fan of Ryan Coogler, but lately the MCU, Phase 4, has been a pretty messy.
I thought Thor: Love and Thunder was a Bad Joke, I thought, I still think, the MCU needs some huge changes, but Wakanda Forever, might just be How To Save The Marvel Cinematic Universe. It’s a meme, HiTop Films MCU videos tend to be, but hopefully this one rings true.
The filmmaking on display, the emotion, the lack of bathos, all of it builds to what I believe is the best of Phase 4, hence the title, Wakanda Forever - The Best of Phase 4. Thank you for watching, listening, supporting this Wakanda Forever Review, this MCU Video Essay.
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What did you think of Wakanda Forever? Thank you for all your love and your support. :)
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Personally, I loved the film! I also cried a lot lmao
Although the homage to Chadwick at the beginning and end of the film was beautiful, the plot itself was very weak. Very little character development for characters new and old like Riri and Namour was a poor iteration of the classic character. The motivations of certain characters were very questionable. Plus, for a 2 hr 41 min movie, we didn't get to see the new Black Panther until the very end. I respect the fact that people enjoyed the movie, but to be honest, it wasn't for me.
It's fine movie, soild acting, 7/10 Black Panther Wakanda Forever.
I thought was one of the worst Marvel films I have ever seen.
I loved how the movie didn’t feel like to rush things out and let some things simmer, and the power of silence was utilized to deliver certain emotional scenes right from the Marvel logo. It’s like they trusted the audience to feel what they want to feel without holding their hands, and again these moments were slow yet solemn. Perfect for mourning.
right? the theatre was dead quiet on that scene and when someone was reminiscing the death
@Oddwolf 799 lol I would rather watch again Black Adam than this sleep fest
@@Loneliw0lf Yes because it was a sad moment but aside from that the movie was mediocre at best
@@incoma6628 It was better than "The Batman"
@@ShadowSonic2 Hey, hey, no fighting.
The Okoye bridge fight scene was the most tense I've ever felt from an MCU fight scene in a long time
I love that she goes through a very similar story to her brother, she is grieving for her brother, and does not believe or find comfort in her culture. And it's so powerful how even her culture starts to push against her, when she goes to the ancestral plain she does not see her ancestors to guide her she sees the man who rejected their culture just like she does, and it messes with her, now she not only feels pain over loss but pain over rejection, and even in all of that pain when it looks like she will become exactly like her cousin, it is her memory of her mother, of her brother that reminds her that we can not be like our enemies we have to be better.
100% this!! It's a lovely tie to connect her story to T'Challa's - it's a lot of power to take on in such a short time like he had to do and after immediately losing someone.
That is... quite the run-on sentence
@Oddwolf 799 Black Adam entertained me more and had better pacing.
This was so fantastically put. I didn’t really see Shuri’s connection to her brother AND Killmonger until this video and the comments within
Man I’m so glad to see someone who doesn’t think wakanda forever isn’t woke feminist garbage. I honestly feel like Shuri is a good example of how to write a female protagonist which is focusing on her as a person first. I love this movie!
Yep, agree. But there are still people screaming that "go woke, go broke" nonsense. What the fuck are they talking about, hahaha
@@Danishmastery they see a black woman and lose their minds 😂
@@Danishmastery after being a superhero fan for years I've learned that those people will never be satisfied. A character could be the most compelling out there and they'd still cry about it. Just gotta let them whine and push others away from them.
Black Adam was surprisingly more woke.
This is exactly how to write a female protagonist. It feels like an origin story for Shuri, and one that actually builds an integral character that we can feel for. Movies that focused too much on writing a female protagonist and did not develop them enough are Captain Marvel and the Star Wars Sequels, but this movie far surpasses those and is probably my favorite MCU movie since Endgame.
This was a surprisingly mature film, they truly let grief, resentment and pain be in the spotlight and trusted their audiences to properly feel these things.
That's why it was good and not a lightweight film.
This movie came out at the right time when Kevin Conroy passed. A movie about grief as we weep for 2 heroes who gave us so much
Ryan Coogler should make a horror film about mermaid, because the opening ship scene is legitimatly terrifying
Whats that nois-
Oh no. 🫣
He should make a solo Namor movie
Yea the music with the voices were mesmerizing
It was so good right !
While phase 4 was a mess, I’m happy that wakanda forever was able to end it off on a high note
Excellent ending to the phase! Best we could've asked for!
I'm just really happy that the final film of Phase 4 was able to unite most fans through it's strong presentation & a reminder to what the MCU can be at it's best.
Is this a joke?
@@Deathstro It has to be, cause I'm a solid reason as to why it's false.
@@ChridsBop My guy there's a reason I said "most fans" cuz even tho I've seen a lot of negative reactions the majority has been positive so far.. I'm not dismissing ur opinion btw.
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe I getcha, and I don't dismiss yours either. Reason being is because it's always interesting to see other peoples opinions, for the most part I've only seen the bad, whereas you've seen the good. Very interesting indeed. 👀
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe “the majority has been positive”
L O L, of course people no standards for the films they waste their money on are going to react positively, because most people are fuckin stoopid and will cream themselves for anything with the Marvel logo in the beginning of it
i love how they did shuri justice, she was justified in being that comedic relief in the original black panther, she was supposed to just be a smart teenager, but in wakanda forever she truly grows up.
For real! She was like the Riri of the first one and really stepped up here to be the next BP. Looking forward to the future with the character!
@@GeeklyGoodsI’m glad she grows up to be the Black Panther
The acting really stood out to me. Tenoch Hurta stole every scene he was in. Letitia Wright an Angela Bassett nailed the mourning, loss, grief. and especially Danai Guriras Okoye was incredible IMO.
I dealt with loss early on in 2021, it was even a sibling. Seeing Shuri going through the same pain as me, and still somehow managing not to give in to her anger broke me. This was a the first time I felt more than just a "light amusement" from a recent marvel thing.
I think she did give into her anger tho almost killing namor but I think that’s what made her a bet her a better character. She’s not perfect and I’m glad they portrayed that. Characters that are flawed are always the best.
this was the first mcu FILM. with real acting, development, and not just action and quips. great tribute to our beloved BP chadwick
Very very well done. FILM INDEED!!
It was low key amazing and slept on by those who don't see it.
I saw this film last night with my mom, brother, aunt and grandma and this film was everything it was supposed to be. Everything in this film was elite
As someone who wasn’t a huge fan of the first Black Panther and someone who has had very mixed opinions regarding phase 4, Wakanda Forever feels like a breathe of fresh air; i don’t feel like i’m watching just another Marvel project, i feel like i’m watching a FILM. I can see that there is a lot of love, care and passion behind this movie, which has been such a rarity in Phase 4. Despite the bad hand the creative team were dealt with Chadwick’s passing, i’m very impressed with what they made out of it.
That's good to hear as someone who wasn't a fan of the first movie but was cautiously optimistic about the second.
Exactly it felt like an actual film with purpose on its own rather than something that was just leading into something else or looking forward to some bigger project. This is one of the few marvel films that can be viewed and enjoyed without the support of the universe itself. It tells a great story of grief and recovery which is universal.
Bp1 is good your just racist
@@CasualCat64How is it racist to dislike a movie? I like the character I just think the first movie was boring, villain was bad, and overall it was just forgettable. The most memorable black panther moments are from civil war and avengers.
@@plustico2846 one of the best final battles Killmonger was a dope villain and Micheal B Jordan was hot and it wasn’t forgettable
I really enjoyed this film - it is not perfect, but it is vastly superior to just about everything else Marvel has released in Phase 4.
I guess you like to see your race destroyed.
For an relatively unknown (in the US at least) actor, I thought Tenoch brought SO much gravitas as Namor. Truly impressed me
I appreciate how Marvel treated this film as tribute to Chadwick Boseman and didn't overstuffing it with too much of their typical humor and quips like TL&T. Sure the film have it's fun moments (specially Shuri and Okoye interactions) but it's not overused, giving the film more quiet moments, letting character show more emotions and development and allowing scenes to have bigger impact.
Wakanda Forever was an exploitation of Boseman's death. Boseman and T'Challah died in the same way. They both died from a mysterious disease and kept it secret from people. The entire movie milked Boseman/T'Challah's death from start to finish, to end credits.
@@sunnysied713100% disagree. Not only the story is well told but having T'chlla dying from disease is nice way to put the characters in the same spot as cast, dealing with the lost of their main hero, with the film whole message being about moving on. which is theme present in Black Panther until now. The story isn't just about Tchalla death but also the effect it has on the character and how Shuri deal with trauma, specially after suffering another loss in the film.
@@alexandrefrauches132 Just because you disagree, that doesn't mean you're right. It's very tasteless to kill a character in the same fashion as the actor. Boseman wouldn't be happy that T'Challah died in the same way as he did. That's very creepy and disrespectful. Also, Boseman would've prefer the T'Challah to continue (recast) or, at a minimum, that T'Challah die a heroic death while fighting for his people and Wakanda. He didn't have a noble death, especially not one befitting of a King, a Protector, or a Superhero Icon.
Next, by exploiting the death of Chadwick Boseman, the writers unethically amplified the emotional response of the audience. It was emotional manipulation that depended heavily on outside knowledge of real-life events involving the actor. If the audience never knew that Boseman had died, then they would be absolutely surprised, confused and annoyed with the writing. After Endgame, T'Challah had just returned from the blip, from the dead. He was a triumphant, returning King. Fireworks. Applause. Then he drops dead off-screen, from natural disease, in his sequel movie. Now, he's in a casket. There was no writing set-up to earn an emotional response from the audience (other than he's coding and we can't help him). The audience NEEDED to read the obituary of Boseman. That's a underhanded and dirty writing trick. I never thought Marvel Studios would play so dirty. Profit trumps ethics.
@@sunnysied713 Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean it's right either.
I thought was bold move having T'challa dying from disease. Not only prevents them from recasting or using CGI (both ways would feel even more disrespectful) but also gives areality shock to this universe of super heroes: tragedy is unexpect and hits you when you less expect, even super heroes. Not every one has heroic death in battlefield. Sometimes is something out of their control.
The characters journey in the film mirrors the state of the cast as well the fans, all having to deal with Boseman death and how the franchise will work without him. They won't recast him but can't ignore T'challa. The conclusion, with the Shuri coming to terms with T'challa death and that while couldn't save T'challa, she can save his legacy, with the memories of her brother inspiring Shuri in the end, is the film giving powerful message to audience, that Boseman may be gone, his legacy shall live on by the actors he inspired as well in memories of his friends, family and his fans.
To quote Black Panther
"“In my culture, death is not the end. It’s more of a stepping off point."
@@sunnysied713 Oh but When Nolan exploited Heath Ledger dying it was good?
Loved this movie. It had a lot of purpose and heart. The movie knew where it wanted to go and did it perfectly
Whenever HiTop says "i hope you're doing well." I definitely am because I'm watching another one of your videos.
Awe thank you
Thank you for this. You love film and it shows every time you post. I loved just about everything Ryan Coogler wrote. Like you said. It was about the quiet moments. The faces. Okoye’s bridge battle is a prime example of that. Her character was so fierce in battle, I loved watching her have her moment on the bridge. No music, no cgi, just the sounds and expressions of a warrior refusing to submit to an unstoppable opponent. It feels like it has been such a long time since a superhero film has really put me on the edge of my seat with action and consequences.
Agreed! For a moment I got that “no one is safe” feeling like I did watching the walking dead. Lowkey thought she would kick the bucket
I literally agree with everything you said! From the visuals, the costumes to the emotions of the characters.. I really hope the future MCU movies learn from the serious tone of this film. I legit got teary during the ending.
Yeah lets hope Phase 5 picks up on some of the great qualities of this and suhers in an even better phase next!
I don't know man... in one hand I really did felt like there was a lot of care put into dealing with the death of T'challa, but in the other I can't help but feel like there really wasn't anything else that truly felt different from any other mcu movie. I guess you could say this is the best that phase 4 has to offer, but that really is not saying much. Rest in Power Chadwick Boseman.
Agreed
Try not to let your image of a perfect film muddy up your lens when watching a film. I think you’re really hindering yourself from enjoying the movie
I agree with you. It felt lacking to me.
Not agreed
It was really great. I especially love the fact that they made me like Namor, since ever since I was little I had a resentment towards him but they made him really likeable as a villain/antihero and a future hero, can't wait to see more of him and our new black panther
THey really did! Namor was so well done, giving him a lot of relatability was the correct choice. Cannot wait to see what they do with the character next!
Everything about Kukulkan and Mesoamerican culture were my favourite parts of the film.
And so hard to pull off that well, considering this was all in the midst of grieving for Chadwick while being a big blockbuster movie at the same time.
Masterwork from Coogler for sure.
Too many problems, far from a masterwork. Coogler kinda choked. Wakanda Forever was nowhere near as good as Black Panther.
@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"
@@ShadowSonic2 No. Namor stupidly gives a sample of the vibranium flower to Shuri, a super-scientist, and Wakanda is on the verge of war with Talocan. Shuri is a genius who can easily use the plant to make a poison against the Talocan, strengthen her Wakandan people or revive the heart shaped herb.
@@ShadowSonic2 GTFOH. The Batman shits all over this.
It was soooo well done! Coogler really knows how to world and character build. He'd be great for Secret Wars tbh
9:45 Thanks man. I really needed to hear this right now. Great work, as always! Can’t wait for your Jason Todd fan film!
Man, I loved this movie. What an experience.
You and me both! Wonderful experience, with such a mix of emotions - sadness, comedy, fun, hope, so much. Can't wait for the continuation of this story!
Wakanda Forever is easily top 5 of the MCU in my opinion. Spectacle, character, emotional it’s everything that you could want and mind you this was a movie that had a lot against it after the loss of Chadwick and they absolutely nailed it
The writing had too many problems. It's not even close to top 5. It's probably middle of the pack, maybe a little bit below.
@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"
@@ShadowSonic2listen I don't no about that but it is a top 5 mcu film
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I haven’t seen this film yet but I want to see it even more now cause of this video! Just watched this on patreon the other day and it’s such a well presented and well spoken video. The editing is stellar like usual! I’m hyped to see you’re posting more often again!
Don't understand this guy's hype, it's like someone paid him for this review. The best of phase 4? Rather the most boring
It's really great I liked it alot. Probably my favorite marvel movie since Endgame. I didn't find it boring or slow paced it went by quickly in the best way possible and I felt it respected Chadwick really well.
Agreed
No way home?
@@StrengthNational what about no way home? It’s good this is better
@@StrengthNational I'd say it is definitely better than NWH, Spidey is my favourite hero and I loved the nostalgia of NHW. But it doesn't hold up well on repeat viewings. I'd say Shang Chi would be a much bigger rival for best film since Endgame
@@LikeGod_ButBetterLooking damn, I chose to watch black Adam over this because I thought the film would be garbage, maybe that was a poor choice.
Finally someone gets it. Wakanda Forever was exactly what the MCU needed!!!
100%! Needded that nice button at the end here it was so damn good. Can't wait for Phase 5!
Black panther has always been one of my favorite avengers, mostly from previous media like avengers: earth mightiest heroes, and I admit, I’m not the biggest fan of the first movie. But this one has actually become one of my favorites in the Mcu in general. Shuri’s arc of grief and even faith hit me right in the feels. I found namor to be a pretty good villain even with the changes, and as someone who finds the iron heart character to be annoying, I actually liked riri more than I thought I would. I enjoyed the slower pace, becuase it felt like for once it wasn’t a rush to make the story happen.
Mannnn that Earth's Mightiest heroes is GOOD!!
Genuinely think this movie is the best thing the MCU has put out since like the first Guardians
Shoutout to Bailey for making it so we can get pretty much a HiTop video every week 🙌🏻 and for also somehow still making great videos like The Batman one
I really liked it alot. No real complaints. 8.8/10. Only thing that I wish that I had was a Dr Doom post credit scene that links it to possibly doing DoomWar. They handled everything really, really well in every facet.
Absolutely loved this movie.
The acting, writing, cinematography, visuals, and action were all top tier.
9/10
Your take on the film has truly calmed my anti-marvel phase I was thinking after watching it and the experience from the films.
It's funny how we've all got the Endgame high of looking for every detail, every Easter egg for the next phase but we forget to just enjoy the film. To enjoy the passion poured into a project that felt impossible to try, impossible to move on from.
Again, it's not perfect, and it doesn't need to be. Everything can be improved with time and correction but was have is enough. This filmed paid homage to a person who seemed to embody the tropes of both the character he played, but also the ones we all looked up to in our own lives.
He wasn't perfect, but he made us feel in a way I think very few people have had an impact on.
I'm still in a limbo of whether I'll enjoy marvel again, but this has closed the lid on simple movie goer having enjoyed a good film. Thanks for the awesome take dude 🙏🏾
In the words of Stan Lee, ' 'Nuff said '.
I'm looking forward to Creed III a lot more after seeing this movie, and where Ryan Coogler took it. Phenomenal directing. I absolutely have to see more of his work
This film was Beautiful! The story, the characters, action scenes, it was all executed beautifully. I just wished Chadwick was here to see it , this film was an amazing commemoration for him. RIP Chadwick boseman you will never be forgotten and you will always be the one true black panther 👑👑👑🎆🎇🎆🎇
I'm glad you enjoyed it, but it left me entirely cold. Yes, I agree with you that it was the best film of Phase 4, and yes I agree with you on a number of other points (costuming was better than the first film, the first act treating Namor as a force of nature or classic unseen movie monster was great), but I think it collapsed under the weight of the rewritten script, Disney's 'We'll charge you today for a better story tomorrow' mentality and other problems. Never for a moment did I believe the film would let Shuri 'burn the world', so her grief went from touching and powerful to boring as I waited for the eventual redemptive moment. Namor's people never felt like a true threat to Wakanda, even during the flooding. But that's going to be a problem of scale moving forward: we saw what Wakanda could do in Infinity War, and in this they had a handful of ships. Consistency matters.
I told y'all so. This Movie was gonna be a banger and so it is. RIP Sir Chadwick Boseman ❤️
You were right, it's a banger indeed!! RIP to the king
75% of this is actually shot like a movie.
Seriously tho, I was shocked by how mature, creative and real this was.
I loved everything up until the last 20 or so minutes. Shuris character arc after the death of her mother felt incredibly rushed, and a continuing storyline with shuri leading both wakanda and not-Atlantis as killmongers spiritual successor would have been incredibly interesting.
Honestly I enjoyed this movie more than I thought I would
Absolutely. I personally love this movie and is one of the strongest movies they have ever done
Ive been a bit depressed lately because of personal reasons and i just watched this movie 2 days ago and i feel sorta better. I loved every bit of it and i was surprised when shuri was less funny and more serious, Its like when spiderman (toms version) was serious in the end of nwh. Sure it had some flaws like with when namor attacked wakanda because the cgi in some parts was a bit off but other than that the movie was almost perfect and the message of hatred and revenge hit me. I left the cinemas feeling good and i felt hope for the new movies that might come from the mcu. The only problem is that not everyone gets it, not everyone understands the meaning of the movie. For example my family said it was garbage and a waste of time and i just didn't understand them. These are just my thoughts and every time you upload it puts a smile on my face :)
Great video as always Alex, this movie exceeded my expectations aswell and did Chadwick a lot of justice
Great review! I agree, this movie’s emotion, depth, writing, & performances definitely put it at the top of Phase 4
Out of all the reviews, this is the very BEST!! Very honest and informed. Much criticism this film is receiving is due to the Mouse sinking his claws into it. Ryan still came out on top. I LOVED this movie!!
It was such a powerful experience
THIS MOVIE HAD CHARACTERS AND FEELINGS!!! I LOVED THAT, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS SO UNUSUAL.
also the villain was silly, and dumb comic booky but it was embraced and done well!
Man, this review was so dang great I had to subscribe. Extremely well thought out and you did expect a clear job analyzing. I feel the same about Shuri. When I saw her finally become the black panther, I got chills 🙏🏽🙏🏽 I hope to see more of her, and I hope they keep doing it right. I don’t believe every movie Needs to be perfect, but I do believe that most people know when a movie is good or bad
As a as a Puerto Rican and black male both brown and black I have never seen so many black and brown people together other than my family reunion. I love this film is not just a love letter and a tribute to chat with Boseman but I am so impressed with how the cast came together. I am a sucker for when you can tie in the real world events such as the metal Americans being overtaken by Spanish colonizers and bring it into my fantasy. I love the power scaling of name or his backstory didn’t feel rushed everything for organic. Everyone from the first film that is included in this film has grown.
can't believe Tik Tokers were gatekeeping the movie for the first week
@@zaiffx what u mean?
bruh i watched the movie last week at an imax cinema, and never has a films soundtrack made me wanna throw up and cry tears of joy and awe, it was that good.
Not afraid I got a bit misty eyed during the movie. It was great.
My honest feelings?
The first Black Panther was an above average film with INSANELY good themes, characters, feelings, and message. It also had a huge impact on world culture and tackled some heavy stigmas in our societies and interactions with each other. Solid hero movie, with a huge impact.
Wakanda forever, was a near masterpiece. Riri's presences was a little shoe-horned, but otherwise, this is in fact the best phase 4 film, and one of the best Marvel Films in general. Everything was so RIGHT in so many ways.
I love this channel so much. Thank you for this!
Wow, I never teared up at a video like this before but damn man you have such a way with words. Keep up the great work, Alex
I still prefer No Way Home, but outside of that I can't argue with this easily being the best movie of phase 4 thus far. Wakanda Forever and Werewolf By Night were like palate cleansers after the crap we've gotten recently.
I really loved Wakanda Forever. Definitely up there with Loki as the best of Phase 4 IMO. There were some gripes, but overall I really loved the movie. Like the visual effects were really fantastic compared to other MCU outings lately, and the characters were really well rounded. Letitia and Ryan did a really good job in turning Shuri into an awesome character, using her traits of her arrogance and intelligence as coping mechanisms for the death of her brother and mother’s death. Though I didn’t gel with the colonizer plot, I know that part of the film wasn’t made for me. Namor was Killmonger but BETTER. Loved this performance and the story. Overall, great film.
Are you referring to Martin Freeman’s part? I think it was just setting up for Thunder Bolts mostly
@@hazeplazs3599 No no, not that part. I mostly meant just the kinda retreading of the same “war against everyone else” kinda thing. It was more overt with Killmonger’s motivations and stuff, Namor did it a lot smoother and I feel he was the better villain, but the overall war like that just felt weird to me? Then again, I’m not the movie’s ideal audience (white teenager XD)
@@wyattrose5511 I’m white and 21 lol I think we fall into the ideal audience😂 BP was my hero too regardless if he was black.
Don’t be insecure about being white. Our ancestors have done terrible things and someone another has lived as long as Namor would have seen all of it. We just gotta accept it
@@hazeplazs3599 True, yeah.
Amazing video as always man! I really loved Wakanda Forever as well, and the most important thing is that it feels human, it feels meaningful :)
Lovely video as always
No matter what the topic is, HTF always strikes my heart with his beautiful words
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Ryan Coogler is my favorite director and this movie proves why.
He stepped up a lot from the first Black Panther.
love your honesty! thank you 🙏
Great job dude
I think it has some great acting, the bridge fight was the most tense fight in the mcu. But they criminally underutilized M’baku and the conflict with Namor felt like a rehash of both the first black panther, and Aquaman.
But I still think Namor is well acted
Werewolf by night is by far the best thing in phase 4
The way you cut the Mickey Mouse segment was perfect
You got me more hyped for this movie. Can’t wait to see it soon
I love how you say “the movie was amazing” and then you say “but the 2nd act was a slog and the 3rd was rushed.
A moment of silence for those who thought this was the best phase 4 movie.
I absolutely agree. I went in the biggest hater but came out absolutely stunned. Everything was amazing from the visuals to the action. I actually teared up three times. It's a masterpiece
STUNNED! I remember before trailers I was so nervous. Ryan Coogler put all that to rest!
Another great video!
Thank you!
The title alone, is such a low bar that leaves basically everything open to the imagination.
Being the Best fase 4 movie is like being a one eye king in a land of blind peolpe
Okay
As much as we miss Chadwick, the legacy he left behind not only as an actor but as a symbol; a character in the lore of the grander MCU, will remain unprecedented. His portrayal as King T'Challa will never be forgotten but remembered for generations to come. Rest In Power, our King 👑
I don't think Boseman would be happy that they killed T'Challah in the same exact way as he died in real-life. Boseman and T'Challah both died from a mysterious disease and they kept it secret. Boseman would've definitely wanted T'Challah to either live on (re-cast) or to die as a triumphant or tragic hero. Nah, T'Challah died from natural disease in the first five minutes of the movie. Lame.
@@sunnysied713 Oh but when Nolan exploited Ledger it was good?
@@ShadowSonic2 Ledgers death wasn't exploited in the Dark Knight trailers or storytelling. But, go ahead, explain your schlocky case. More details please. Did Joker die in the same way as Hedger? Was their a Joker Jr? Was the Dark Knight one long funeral service for Ledger/Joker? No.😌
@@sunnysied713 Ledger's death very much was exploited. Everyone kept saying "Go watch this to honor Ledger".
This movie honored Chadwick the right way.
This is your most beautiful review
I’m seeing this film next week. I am so damn excited. This movie sounds like the perfect one for me. Phase 4 had its highs and lows. I’m really hoping this one slaps as Black Panther is a favourite of mine, Civil War and Black Panther 1 where amazing and some of my favourites in the MCU. They felt like they had passion and love poured in and Boseman. Boseman was fantastic. He made so much of us happy. Put a reassuring hand on our shoulder and told us to keep going. RIP Chadwick Boseman. Wakanda Forever. 💜
You should do a Kevin Conroy tribute video.
Even as someone who doesn't hate phase 4 as much as some other people (definitely the weakest phase, but still more hit and miss than out and out bad, I'd say), Wakanda Forever absolutely blows it all out of the water (no pun intended). The characters felt real, there were moral shades of gray all throughout the movie, the world building for Talokatlantis was great without fully dominating the movie and saving plenty of threads for later (casually name dropping Namora and Attuma, I see you)
*HERE BE SPOILERS*
Probably my favorite thing about this is the fact that, thanks the heavens, there's no asspull third act villain that unites the two sides. I was so sure that was gonna happen, it's the easiest way (and most narratively unsatisfying, but ya know...) to make people realize Namor and his people aren't so bad after all, right? But no, they let Namor be the antagonist throughout the whole movie. They allowed us to understand and empathize with his character while also letting him do some pretty dark shit like killing Queen Ramonda. Some have asked if he can truly be redeemed after this, but I mean, come on, Loki's sitting right there in the phase 4 lineup. If Dragon Ball can have half their heroes be guilty of messed up stuff, then Marvel can too.
I was worried they were going to have Attuma overthrow Namor and become the final villain and Namor would have to work with Shuri to defeat him. So glad they didn't do that.
@@ShadowSonic2 Yeah, when his name was first mentioned, my first reaction was "uh oh," but fortunately they're more than likely saving that for a later story.
Beautiful man. Everything said in this video was just beautiful 🖤✊🏾
Just saw it yesterday and man the love and care Ryan Coogler and company had with this was beautiful to see. From Fruitvale station to this Ryan has elevated with every movie and this was no different. Haven’t watched a movie that payed tribute in such a beautiful way since Fast7 (I know f&f is dragged out now) this is beautiful I applaud them🥂
The movie was ok. The first black panther was ok it wasn’t a masterpiece but it was a marvel movie. In this movie I never got I never really got emotional for the characters. And the cgi was mid like a lot of the mic movies.
Great video!!! THIS MOVIE WAS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!!!!
I LOVE IT SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!! All the characters were amazing!!!
Namor was awesome!!! Queen Ramonda was amazing!
Ironheart was great and Letitia Wright was Incredible as Shuri!!!
THIS MOVIE WAS AWESOME!!!!!! WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!!!
There were too many writing problems, and the editing was terrible. Black Panther was much better.
@@sunnysied713 I like this much more than the 1st Black Panther but that's just my opinion.
@@TimDaco I'm glad that you like it more, but Wakanda Forever reused a lot of story beats from Black Panther and other movies. T'Challah vowed revenge that he would kill Zemo for murdering his father, but he let him go. Shuri vowed revenge for the murder of her mother, but she let Namor go. Killmonger gets stabbed and begins to die because, hey, it's a serious injury. Shuri gets impaled by a thick spear (all the way through the body) and she's like "Tis but a scratch. Spiderman flippidy flipty time."
@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"
@@ShadowSonic2 I agree. I love
The Batman but I just feel like it's overrated.
I like Wakanda Forever way better but that's just my opinion.
This is probably the BEST "solo" film of entire MCU outside of Avengers. Because it is not just a fun product or a commercial for toys, it is art filled with soul and a message. A lot of its cinematrography was outright outstanding, quiet moments impactful and soundtrack was cherry to my ears. And Angela Bassett, her outfits, posture and raw emotions were BREATHTAKING. And Shuri was making me emotional all the time. Really piece of art this is.
Iron Man 1 exists you know
@@literallyvergil1686 Iron Man 1 is just ok.
Great Vid 👍🏾
Imagine if Taika was in charge of this film 😅
Well, he did a wonderful job with "JoJo Rabbit" so...
It was a good movie , shuris arc was absolutely incredible
seeing this movie today, I finally felt something about the MCU... I felt, hope. seeing the artist shining more than the check list that the other films have had despite no way home but I loved that we got to see the "villians" side and there story to show why they do what they do. It felt good to see a movie not about the humor and an actually story of heart break and loss and seeing the characters grow and realize that hatred and vegence is not the answer, reminded me of the symbote and spiderman! great video and great movie!
You're incredibly cultured for using footage from the Laurel and Hardy Babes in Toyland movie
I like your take, I respect it, I don't agree. I still left a like on the video. We can now move on to bigger and better things.
Personally it was too long with too many things going on to keep up. Love the idea but the execution could have been better. The acting, visuals/soundtrack was great. This movie might be the best of phase 4 honestly.
However, the FIRST Black Panther was AMAZING because of the characters and the script as you mentioned.
amazing video as always!
Thank you!
I’d love to say the reason is this film had TRUE passion behind it. I wish we can say that for Thor 4, the story it took would’ve been so beautiful but we got what Taika did sadly. I’m so happy this film just did amazing and is loved
If you take Ironheart and Ms Hydra out of the movie, maybe one can make it work… Didn’t like it as it was
I loved all of phase 4 but wakanda forever may be the best of it.
As a Mexican American who has immigrant patents this movie did something for me that I always wanted. A cool Mexican superhero. People especially white people and it’s not their fault because they are seeing it more as movie or another Marvel movie then a Cultural phenomenon. This movie gives us Mexicans someone to look up and see someone that looks like us. The movie I will admit might not be the best but for me it’s more than a movie.
That last line man, 10/10, so with you bro, I’m glad this movie wasn’t such a disaster as I worried it to be.