Wakanda Forever - Phase 4 Got Its Act Together
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Black Panther : Wakanda Forever is the latest Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase Four film, and what a film to end it the phase.. not only is it a genuinely great flick, but it's a phenomenal tribute to Chadwick Boseman.
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I’m surprised that people aren’t talking about how this movie didn’t really have mcu humor. Like, it was funny, it had jokes, but it didn’t have *mcu* jokes.
So true
“Bald headed demon” > every avengers joke
@@3bay Riri roasting Okoye about her ashy head was hilarious..
I noticed that too, it felt different from the MCU that I forgot it was a MCU movie
@@Browntable Hello I really love your videos the video I love the most is the Zootopia fan film
T'Challa: "Vengeance has consumed you. It's consuming them. I'm done letting it consume me."
Shuri: "Vengeance has consumed us. We cannot let it consumes our people."
I love how subtle the movie shows the different between them. T'Challa was, as Killmonger said, a noble man who dropped his hatred and did the right thing, while Shuri never managed to drop her hatred towards Namor, she simply did what a leader should, which is not letting her people pay the price for her own emotions.
In many ways, Shuri was simultaneously more immature and mature than T'Challa
I love the fact they they let her keep some of her spite. Disney's been playing it WAY too safe when it comes to revenge stories, dealing with grief isn't as simple as saying "revenge bad" and moving on with your life
fr there were moments in the movie where I thought, "Okay, this is a real leader" and I felt bad for doubting her! She took on that role just like that... like when she looked M'baku right in the eye, kind of threatening and said something like "I'm going to fight Namor and you're going to help me", I was like damnnnnn...
For Chadwick❤️
🙅🏿🦸🏿♂️👑🖤
For Chadwick ❤
We love him forever
To Chadwick the black panther 🙅🏿♂️👑🐆
For Chadwick ❤️
Shuri didn't became a "Strong female character" just to say "Eat my Hammer". She genuinely got hurt badly and was about to die. She Stopped Namor not by her "POWER" but her Genius Mind. This is a perfect tribute to Chadwick. Great video.
Jane really did gained power just to drop a one liner. All of that came from the hammer. And that cancelled all of Thor's arc from Ragnarok.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom pretty sure infinity war cancelled his arc
@@sidecharacter3193 Thor's regression in IW was at least acknowledged or makes sense. Thanos was unlike anyone he's ever faced.
He beat Hela not by powers, but by decisions. Thor may obtained a new axe to replace the hammer, but clouded by vengeance, he decided to strike it on Thanos' chest so he gloat, than a fatal one.
In EG, he's got BOTH the axe and hammer and they did him no favors. Because his mind still wasn't on the right place.
In L&T? The hammer is mightier than ever. The axe is now a key.
Feminism done right.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom he fought worse than thanos, he literally fought the demon surtur
What Imreally like about this movie is that it further developed every character. Like it seems like every character in this movie got his/her own little arc and a chance to shine. Characters like M’Baku, Nakia, Okoye, even Shuri somehow became even more likeable and well-rounded than they already were in the first one. Truly a fantastic movie.
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I think the fact the staff wanted to make this project is why so many love this movie. It doesn't feel like theres a bunch of studio mandated stuff or notes
Yeah looking back to iron man 1 and overall the best movies the mcu made all come from the people in the movie actually caring, I think we give too much credit to the people on the top but I’m sure it’s the staff overall the ones that actually make the movie the responsible for making masterpieces
I never thought about how we’re conditioned as Marvel viewers to basically cheer for fighting, even if it’s a heartbreaking battle. You’re right, it was weird to have that disjointed tone between Shuri’s last fight and the one on the ship. It doesn’t jive with the rest of the film.
Still, I love this movie and it’s rare that I have so little criticism.
"This movie is like, actually A MOVIE." Couldn't have said it better myself 🙌🏾
I love Shuri’s journey to the mantle of the Black Panther.
Before watching the movie, I had thought she was going to fully use tech for fighting, but I’m glad they found a way to bring back the panther herbs Killmonger destroyed in the last movie.
Yeah I like that but I don’t mind her using tech to be unique to her character
There’s no better story to tell than a story about the trials of the human heart. Thats what Wakanda Forever succeeded in, along with tight writing, killer cinematography, excellent balance, it was fantastic even despite some flaws. A real solid film.
Things I loved about Shuri in this movie
1)She wasn’t written as a “strong female character”, she was written as a real person.
2)Unlike with other female leads, where the writers are too afraid to let them have actual emotion, she’s actually allowed to show emotion and have character flaws. She’s allowed to cry and grieve (I mean she looses her brother AND her mother for gods sake). It shows that, yes, it’s okay to cry and mourn, it doesn’t make you weak. Ironically, having emotion and not being afraid to cry actually makes you stronger than those who refuse to show emotion.
3)Shuri doesn’t get the black Panther powers until near the climax, and even then, unlike Captain Marvel, she doesn’t instantly become op. Sure she’s far more powerful, but she’s not invincible and does take hits during the climax (I mean for the love of god she gets stabbed through the abdomen). It shows that, while she’s still powerful, she’s still human
4)I love the fact that the writers weren’t afraid to make her seek revenge against Namor. Most Hollywood writers would be terrified of this idea for fear of the Twitter demons. Her wanting revenge doesn’t make her look bad, it makes her human.
5)I love the fact that even at the end, she’s still mourning for Tchalla. It’s like, yeah, she’s not suddenly magically cured of her depression and is all better by the end, these things take time to cope with.
Obviously this movie has its issues, but after the boatload of boring and pandering “strong female characters”, Shuri was a breath of fresh air.
She was also written by a BLACK writer. The reason most back females suck is because of white men writing them. You can tell, they have not spent good enough time to actually know any black women, nor understand them.
Exactly it's not some "woke propaganda" that some other RUclipsrs are making it out to be.
I loved her character from beginning to end
Plus the acting from Letitia Wright was great. Not peak cinema, just lowkey great.
I've seen some comments outright denying her effort, and said The Rock as Black Adam had better acting. I'm so sick of it.
@@tobiaslawrence8928 People who said that clearly wanting to hate on it before even watching the movie.
Ngl Shuri just became my favorite phase 4 movie lead thanks to this movie. Seeing her development from the first movie to this one was just downright crazy. They’ve done the characters beautifully in this. Her, Namor, Ramonda and even all the way to my man M’Baku who became a surprise voice of reason and an effective comic relief all in one
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Exactly, even characters that I already loved from the first one like Okoye and M’Baku became even more likeable and well developed in this one.
What development? People keep saying her development and yet it's never said what and how she goes through anything but anger....that's not development
Development requires actually doing things that put the characters through the ringer so much that they go towards a certain level of training and change beyond their own desires and beliefs, that means to willingly be more than who you were
She's only been the exact same thing from beginning to end
@@ninjanibba4259 spoilers:
we meet shuri in the first Black Panther as a funny young teenage girl. Then in this film she’s more mature and mourning the loss of her brother. She’s fighting against a side of her who wants to take her anger of not being able to help tchalla out on the world. Then when the Queen dies she lets that dark side take over and plans to take revenge. She goes through tchalla’s arc of not choosing vengeance. She ends the film more peaceful then was at the start and finally ends her mourning period and decides to move on from her brother’s death. She goes from irresponsible funny teenage girl to vengeful broken person/black panther to a peaceful but still broken person who has learned their lesson and is living with it. That’s an arc. Peter Parker has a super similar arc in no way home of not choosing vengeance.
Also if losing the only 2 people who truly knew you isn’t getting put through the ringer idk what is.
@@kingkong9892 so its just a copy of t'challa's arc
After the mid credit scene and the Chadwick RiP credit came up my entire theater bursted into applause one of the best movie experiences of my life.
when the credits rolled and my friend and I had finished wiping our tears, she turned to me and said, "well, that definitely makes up for the monstrosity that is love and thunder." and even that is an understatement.
Shang-Chi and Wakanda Forever have given me complete confidence that Destin Cretton and Ryan Coogler should handle the reigns of the Avengers moving forward, they’re incredible.
Imo I’d rather see Ryan direct smaller and more intimate movies like this one and the first BP as opposed to a large scale crossover movie like Avengers bcs seems like it’s what he’s good at, but then again I haven’t seen him taking on an actual Avengers movie before so if he got what it takes and has the heart for it then he should give it a go
@@rhetiq9989 Totally fair.
Well that’s good because Destin Daniel Cretton IS directing The KANG Dynasty
@@gavo7911 IMAGINE HOW MANY BRAINDAMAGE YOU SHOULD HAVE TO THINK *REGULARMAN 3: REVENGE OF ALDRICH KILLIAN* IS A GOOD MOVIE
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 ?
It feels like, a movie, you know? It feels like a real "go to the theatre" film, movie.
I also do think this movie is the best of Phase 4 MCU and better than the first one. The underwater Talocan scene with Con La Brisa song is just beautiful.
underwater scene was low key romantic, I had to question how old Shuri was at this point since Namor basically married her. In some customs, when you give a woman a native dress, your ancestor's jewels, and propose to destroy the world together, that's a marriage contract.
@@suzygirl1843 I thought about that too. I was hoping there is romantic relationship between Shuri and Namor.
@@ismaill-0819 But then how old is Shuri in Wakanda Forever? It's 2025 so she is still 16 since she got dusted by Thanos too. And since you burn your clothes after 1 years mourning that makes her 17 or 19? I don't know.
This is honestly what I wanted in Phase 4, I don't know if it's Ryan Cooglers directing or the movie being a tribute to Chadwick, but it just felt so human. Phase 4 has been on this really goofy streak with it's films (unlike Eternals and Shang-Chi) that I walked into the theatre scared that it would be another MCU movie with a bunch of dumb MCU jokes, but I was so surprised with what I actually got. It's not a superhero movie, it's a movie about grief and loss and dealing with that and everyone's response to that. Queen Ramonda lost her husband and her son, when she felt like Okoye got Shuri killed, it only ampliefed how she was already feeling about her previous betrayel in the last movie.
Nakye couldn't stand to be at the funeral because she was scared to face the reality that the man she loved was gone.
Shuri goes through it the most, she couldn't create the heart shaped herb in time and T'Challa passed because by the time it was made, it was already to late. She knew that she was next in line to take the mantel of Black Panther but couldn't do it because she knew that she'd be taking the role of her brother, a role of she never felt like she could take and her mother dying only made it worse because not only did she end up having to be the new Black Panther, but she doesn''t have a family who can teach and help her.
And Namor, my God, I don't even need to say anything.
I really love this movie, yeah it stumbles a bit towards the end in it's third act, but it building up to the end with Shuri finally letting go and breaking down. MANNNNNNNNNNN (I cried, I really cried)
This movie sold me on Shuri. I really didn't care for her up to this point because she was just the comic relief tech character.
Same
@@Browntable Yeah, meanwhile nerds like Nerdotic, Midnight's Edge, Yellowflash 2, and Ryan Kinel are trying to dissuade people from seeing this. Someone explain these people's mentality? Like I don't get. Isn't this what they have been championing Marvel to do? I'm confused
This movie is proof that Marvel can do great if they want.
This movie is also proof that Marvel can take itself seriously when they want to, especially at scenes when the emotion needs to flow and not undercut by a single joke.
What truly makes this movie so good for me is the sheer lack of jokes
They're still there (obviously) but they're actually at a place where they feel *appropiate* most of the time. Glad they finally realized the quips don't need to be such a big part of the script.
Only prologue and epilogue meant something the rest is just dumpster fire please,phase four is dead
So glad emotional scenes aren't ruined with jokes.
Let's hope Avengers 5 is like this.
@@luisminguela9582 gotta be that guy
BRO I love how you brought up the sheer *disconnect* between Riri legit snuffing the life out of a bunch of atlanteans while triumphant superhero music is playing in the background. Like bruh Riri's supposed to be, what, a freshman/sophomore from MIT? And here she is casually killing people and treating their lives lightly! Granted she went through quite a bit in the movie, but she dove into war like it's a video game!
Well in the comics (and some of this is alluded to in the film) she loses her dad, step dad, and best friend so she’s lost about the same amount of people as mcu Spider-Man so it makes sense she’s more fearless
To be really honest the movie is just simply OK it's not that great like the person in this video is trying to make it out to be. The story line is somewhat trash It’s just simply an OK movie.
I love it. This is a character driven movie. It really felt like everyone got together and made something special that celebrate the strength of black woman and honoring Chadwick baseman. It's top 3 mcu movie
Shuri had some major character development! I loved every moment of it! My sister said that for this year, this is her number one movie.
Shuri's decision not to kill Namor felt very similar to T'chala's decision not to kill Zemo. "Vengeance has consumed you. It's consuming them. I'm done letting it consume me"
This is easily a top 5 MCU movie where you genuinely feel the weight of what’s happening on screen. Thank you for recognizing this
I couldn’t disagree more. The entire film felt lackluster and a way for Disney to profit off the death of a beloved actor. Seriously think about it, they had a movie with a different plot ready to go and scrapped it when they could’ve recast and tell the story they had been working towards. Once Chadwick passed they took that and ran with it.
Rest In Paradise Chadwick Boseman 🖤🖤🖤
Namor and his whole story was fucking incredible
NAMOR IS A BADASS
@@ricardoredway fr
Gano el cine, I hadn´t felt that I liked an MCU product since No Way Home, you can clearly tell when a movie is made with passion and respect. What a way to honor Mr. Boseman
The fact that my dislike of Letitia Wright completely fell away when watching the film speaks volumes of her performance. I never saw Wright, only Shuri.
Why dislike Letitia Wright? She's a Christian Conservative, not a Lefty. She doesn't go along with the Trans stuff, she always brings up religion and never swears. Christians have let her down. And vaccinations are personal.
Chadwick Boseman should’ve been here, this film was an amazing tribute to him
Nice of them to do a soft recast with T'Chala Jr.
And this takes place in 2025. He'll be Black Panther in 20 years time real time. So its 2023 in 1 month. So 2023 + 20 = 2043.
I have been a Namor fan for far too long. Obviously I haven't been there since the character first appeared, but Namor has been there since the beginning of Marvel, waiting to make his jump into the mainstream. But while other characters copied the concept and became more popular, Namor waited in the shadows to make his big debut. And I have to say, after all this waiting, it was worth it.
Finally, Namor gets to show off all the decades' worth of nuance that his character has developed. Imperius Rex!
I still need to see this film but I'm so happy to see that it's a genuinely good film & tribute to Chadwick while also ending Phase 4 on a strong note.
Definitely a good ending to the phase 4. I really enjoyed it.
My mother has a big hip pain, max 30 min sit before it is too much, but she sat there and could watch the movie beginning to the end without any pain. When you say the movie is so good that she could forget her pain for close to 3 hours, this is movie is good.
Browntable Rocks ♥♥♥
Wakanda Forever is a masterpiece in a true essence 🖤, because it's a perfect amalgamation of a Tribute to Chadwick Boseman, introducing a new civilization (Talokan from Aztec Civilization), introducing two new characters in a very astonishing way (Namor & Iron-Heart), Global Representation, recreates the same cultural phenomena of it's previous installment & most importantly being stand-out as a Superhero Flick, they'd perfectly provided a Tribute to Chandwick Boseman, also it's less MCU and more Marvellous because the Art-Direction, Cinematography, Visuals, VFX, CGI all are just perfect and there aren't too many unnecessary Jokes in every 10 Minutes, Yaah there're some jokes but those are actually funny it makes you laugh effortlessly, and whenever there's any serious scene then it supposed to take you in the darkest side.
Man I've never supposed to say this especially for a MCU Project but sorry Scorsese but "This Is Cinema" 💥
This movie might take No Way Home’s spot in my personal ranking as the best Phase 4 film 😊
Yeah, people seem to forget that NWH had a re-release where they finished the CGI. They had before and after videos. So bad CGI upon debut and 7 plotholes made a billion dollars at the box office, yet this one.... actually had a member die.
@@suzygirl1843 ...... What?
@@papacole5025 same
Yah I prefer No Way Home over Wakanda Forever but Wakanda Forever is definitely my second favorite of phase 4
@@suzygirl1843 if we wanna bring up plot holes then how about the man that lives in the ocean not ONCE mentioning the CELESTIAL BEING emerging from the ocean.
Honestly Wakanda Forever was the best MCU phase 4 product, not just movies but shows too. So much heart and soul went into the film. Letitia Wright deserves best actress award in my opinion. The only other phase 4 product that I thought was great was No Way Home and even that had some of the typical MCU moments.
What I loved the most out of this movie that I hadn't seen a lot in the mcu was the worldbuilding and how they tied events to the real world. Making Namor's story tie in to the spanish invasion of america, the way all of this conflict happened because of other countries thirst for some vibranium (which parallels the behaviour of real world countries with other resources), and the political climate of Wakanda at the start as well. It made it feel like the movie was happening in the world, it's hard to explain, I think what I mean, is that the actions of the political entities in the movie didn't feel as "cartoony" as most marvel films.
amen
Banger vid once again, Mauricio! Phase 4 was a mess, but we needed this movie to conclude it all.
This was a breathe of fresh air after seeing countless people bashing the movie and hoping on it's failure. While it wasn't perfect and honestly if they left Riri out or at least more ambiguous it would've felt better, it was really good in my opinion. Thanks for your positive input.
An emotional and character driven film about grief and family legacy is definitely not something I would expect Marvel to pull off with such excellence, but I'm sure as hell glad they did.
Such a beautiful movie glad I saw it on IMAX.
What they did with Shuri and Namor in this movie was excellent. I know many (myself included) weren't the biggest fan of hers after the OG movie and Infinity War, but she definitely was awesome in this movie. Also PLEASE GIVE US A NAMOR MOVIE/D+ SHOW.
Yeah, a lot of people still holding the anti-vaxxer comments against her. Leave your real world politics out of here. Letitia Wright is actually Conservative Christian, I understand why she made that personal choice. People don't respect Conservative women, I see.
@@suzygirl1843 I wasn't even talking about Letitia Wright as a person and her views tbh, I was purely talking about Shuri in the MCU. Many (myself included) just found Shuri to be a bit of a know-it-all and too snarky to the point it came off like she was a jerk. Her going through the grief of T'Challah's death and growing up to become the Black Panther is a great evolution of her character and makes her way more likable.
@@MrRapmaster19 And Reed Richards and Dr. Strange aren't a know it all Jerks?
@@suzygirl1843 They are, and I'm not fans of either of them, especially Reed.
@@MrRapmaster19 Geniuses are general douches. That's their flaw; they are socially inept or lawd their genius over people or come of arrogant. Look at real life geniuses.
Hearing many critics shit on the movie for the sake of shitting on marvel annoys me, glad that many people found this movie to be peak mcu.
Rip Chadwick 🙏 you were a legend
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I wish we got a more realistic depressed portrayal of shuris grief rather than her rage because it mirrors t’challas civll war arc a little too much. Other than that, 9/10
Glad you like it, it watch most the RUclips critic and people seem to not like it. I really like it, I think it actually structure like a movie than Spiderman , even tho I like Spiderman more. This might be second best in Phase 4 for me. My favorite aspect is the duality between science and spiritual. it feel like Wakanda more than Blackpanther movie ( which is a smart title for me). Also, Mbaku is the new King for sure while Shuri is still Blackpanther. Bad aspect is the "war" fight scene. I think Ryan Coogler love Grounded fightscene too much since BP1, he make Shuri vs Namor really great but Talocan vs Wakanda is weak. I would like to see more Aerial Ship from Wakanda and how Talocan counter them. Add more Fleet in both side in the background would help hype up the scale of the battle.
The biggest problem with NWH is how inconsistent it is, honestly.
It fumbled every time it stopped taking itself seriously, the intro was pretty solid but it didn't pick itself up until the apartment fight.
Wakanda Forever knew it's tone and managed to stick with it for most of it's runtime, that alone blows a massive chunk of the Phase 4 content out of the water
I just saw this movie on Friday! It's nice to be ahead of the RUclipsrs for once! Now, I can just watch these reviews as they come out!
The feeling I had when I saw it was Killmonger show up is something I don’t think I could have ever expected
Wakanda Forever has been da movie dat helped me get thru the murders of my brother n sister. I relate to shuri so much in dis film, n i bawl like a baby everytime i watch it. Even now as i type dis a year later tears are streaming down my cheeks for Chadwick and my loved ones departed.
*SPOILERS*
This movie handles the topic of grief really well. Chadwick's passing was one of the most heartbreaking losses we've ever gotten. The man became a symbol. And Wakanda Forever honored him both as a person and a symbol, and that makes it both beautiful and bittersweet. And having dealt with so many losses in my family since 2017 (great-aunt, dad, uncle, and, this year, grandpa), couldn't help but to completely understand Shuri's anger, her desire to just burn it all down. The people we love, the ones who better understood us, are no longer here. F*ck everyone and everything. I mean, a lot of scenes regarding death and characters dealing with it were very hard to watch because of the emotional rawness. When Shuri lost Ramonda and saw her body, man... It was like seeing my biggest fear take shape, y'know. Being alone and full of anger. When I cried during that scene, it was both because of Shuri's suffering and that fear of mine. A lot of moments made me cry for both the fictional world and the real world. It was heavy to deal with, and necessary. I just wanted to give a hug to everyone involved in this movie, to be honest, especially Ryan Coogler. Without his sensibility, Wakanda Forever wouldn't have been as powerful and meaningful as it is.
I was always bothered by T’challa killing Killmonger I always thought it would’ve been more powerful if he was allowed to reform and I think the writers realized that too afterwards, so I was glad they let Namor live.
Killmonger committed suicide though, T'challa wanted to save him.
@@Batcow7735 oh wait you’re right haha then the writers shouldn’t have killed him off, I think in general superhero movies tend to kill villains in one way or another and I think it’s more interesting to let them live instead
@@Hellscauldron No, Kilmonger was a Marxist racist. He had to go.
@@suzygirl1843 LMFAO what’s the definition of Marxism Suzy?
@@Hellscauldron Go on Jordan Peterson's channel, he talks about it all the time
I really love how this film treats Namor as a reflection of the cycle of revenge/colonisation. Really makes it a mature story. For Chadwick ❤
Rip Chadwick ❤
Can we talk about how simple the actual credits are. It's not the usual action movie credits, just close-ups of the funeral garb burning.
I still think Shang Chi and Spider-Man were the best movies in phase 4!
One a fantastic origin story and one an orgasmic communal event for Spider-Man fans!
I loved your analysis of this movie. Thanks.
Also this movie put such a great spotlight on the women and was not at all awkward (like that endgame scene)
Yeah, that's why I keep encouraging more African stories that have nothing to do with Feminism. Movies like Woman King are actually much more nuanced than people want to believe. It's about sisterhood as Band of Brother is about Brotherhood in military.
This movie is so soulful and unique with great characterizations. The first time watching it was really good, but the second watch it was even better. It gets better with every viewing.
Really well put man; good video. I keep thinking about how strong this film is. Glad they can still tell stories like this!
How tf they released love and thunder and wakanda forever the same year?
even in death killmonger had the best drip in wakanda
ONGGGGG
@@Browntable I don't understand why people think Kilmonger would've been a better Black Panther when he wanted to start a race war? He's a Marxist biggot. That's the difference, Africans actually don't care that much about the outside world, they live in their countries away from racism. It's not #1 on their minds to go after outsiders, usually they're trying to keep them out. Stop looking at Africans through the lens of black Americans. It is not the same.
I 100% agree with everything you said in this video. I prefer this movie to the first too! So glad Marvel still has the capacity to make movies. Good stuff mate.
I loved this movie! It’s didn’t just focus on Shuri and her taking the mantle, but how T’Challa has affected and souls of Wakanda
The movie is a miracle
Rest in peace Chadwick!
Completely agree!!!
so glad I finally found the vid not sure why it didn't show up in my notifications or my feed but great vid cant wait to see more
As a Mexican how Namor gets his name is like the most bad ass thing I’ve ever heard. Good job for the directors to link that name to some cultural significance and not sound stupid.
Another great video!
Great review man
The fact that you mentioned last of us makes me happy and the fact that two seconds later you play the uncharted music I love
Fantastic video! 100% agree on the original, excited to see it later today
the video has spoilers and you watched it without seeing the movie?? 😧
@@Leviwhy I got up to before they talked sbout the third act and already knew about a character death that I got spoiled on. But yeah
This film is a must have for me when it eventually comes out on dvd. Even though Boseman, God rest his soul. Is no longer with us. I am glad this movie went in the direction it did. Going forward with what they have, instead of just bringing in a replacement for T'Challas character. A movie of respect.
I needed to see this first so that I know how much tissue to take lol. Seeing it this weekend and I'm even more excited
I wholeheartedly agree. So many people complain about the MCU formula and say that they want something more from it. This. This is what fans want to see from the MCU. This actually felt like an actual film and not like the movies that marvel has been pumping out for some time. I just hope that people come to appreciate it as much as I do
The tonal issues with the movie made it hard for me to care after the main character was recovered from the Atalantis place. Video helped me see a lot of the good decisions the movie made.
Nice video
BROWNTABLE forever!!!!
I turned the notification bell on after this review. Very well said!
This movie catapulted Shuri into my top 10 favorite MCU characters, probably tied with T’Challa.
Great video, I didn’t really plan on seeing any more marvel movies outside spider-man, but now I wanna check it out
Your videos never disappoint
What done right in Wakanda Forever
1. Shuri isn't just a "strong female" character, she's finding her way through tragedy to become a strong character who are happened to be female.
2. K'uk'ulkan/ Namor isn't just a "race swap for diversity" or "man are bad" character, he has an interesting backstory that give him an "understandable" motivation to protect his people and kingdom with it's own unique culture and history.
Honestly like the style of Namor
Thank you for giving this movie the love it deserves! I loved every second of it!
Time will be kind on Wakanda Forever. It faces alot of undeserved judgment because Hollywood is a god damn mess currently, but this will definitely be one of the MCU movies that will stand the test of time ^^
6:08, strangely enough, Shang Chi also had a similar arc of putting aside vengeance and while he does it to reject being like his vengeful and selfish father and Peter does it to preserve his moral integrity (and his willingness to fully accept his role in Aunt May’s death in his attempts to have everything be the way he wanted), Shuri does it out of empathy, managing to see herself, her story and that of her people reflected in her enemies. In that respect, I do agree this arc was handled better in this movie than the other two, with the sequences showing the similarities between the two civilizations as a visual representation for empathy being a pretty great directorial touch, having the audience experience Shuri’s thought process and allowing us to connect more with her decision.
I watched this movie in theaters and I loved this movie its near perfection
Thank God!
You said it man. Wakanda Forever is better than the first movie! 🤩
❤️🔥 Heck yeah
Death is not the end. they are still with us, so long as we do not forget them.
-T’Challa
Litik Talokan!
I wish T'challa had been recast, I think Black Panther deserved to have his story expanded and I believe Chadwick Bosemen did to. As the most prominent black character in comics, I'm disappointed to see the character but back in the shelf before they got their time to truly shine. But, I respect the decision made by Disney and I'm so glad to hear that this movie wasn't the flop I dreaded it would be. I'm gonna have to see this one in theaters.
I agree with everything you said in this video, and I really liked this movie as well. I hoped you would mention Riri's involvement in this movie though as well as Everett Ross and his subplot. Don't get me wrong, I like both of them and am excited to see them in the future, but I really don't think they needed to be in this movie. they were definitely only there to set up future projects.
ok now i dont know what to think... most reviews i have seen didn't like this movie. now you say you love it--------- can't wait to see it for myself one day.
When someone gives you their opinion and thoughts thoughtfully
Wish it was longer though. 😅 you’re good at this !
Facts 🤷🏽♂️
You got to give props to the cast and director, they only learn about Chadwick's death when it was announced. The director had a lot of pressure with this film, it was very emotional for them
One of my favorite mcu movies
I love your point with the musical choice, another way they could've gone there would be just stick to sounds of them trying to murder each other with like an ambient tone that's mostly "depressing" for lack of a better word. And write riri in a way that she isn't enjoying killing the talokan people.
Wakanda forever and Shang chi are top phase 4 movies
I love how the movie goes against Tchalla idea of opening up Wakanda.
I loved this movie but I still think no way home is slightly better story wise and peter revenge arc in my opinion is more personal and better than Shuri (ps want to say no way home is on par with Spider-Man 2 which are my 2 favorite movies of all time)
Not really. No Way home was bad. Nostalgia is what saved the day. You can tell they already shot the entire movie without Toby McGuire which is why his entrance seemed random and dialogue was adlibbed between him and Garfield. There wasn't s script between them. He didn't seem like he was playing Spidey at all, just doing it for the fans one last time.
R.i.p ❤🫶