Don’t sleep on Purdue. Painter knows how to build a great team. No one thought Purdue was a top 25 team two years ago then went out and won the BigTen while earning number one ranking. Let’s go.
Good points on Will Berg. Everyone is sleeping on him. In his very limited minutes last season he looked really good, and not just against scrubs. He could wind up seeing some real minutes this season.
2019 was not the best team of Purdue’s recent run. That team was essentially a 1 man show that lived and died by Carsen Edwards. The best team had Carsen, Vince Edwards, Dakota Mathias, Isaac Haas, Ryan Cline, etc
I loved that team when Carsen Edwards was a sophomore. No disrespect to PJ Thompson, but if that team had Braden Smith instead, then you're looking at a Final Four team.
@@nathanmurphy5736 very true. Didn’t even recall who our opponent would’ve been after the Texas Tech game. Beating Nova would’ve been a near impossible task that season.
@@BradensBeard3 Isaac haas was overrated and robotic. Haarms was a way better defender. Cline was clutch but Mathias was overrated as hell too. I liked the 2019 team cause Eastern and Haarms played d and the walk on senior white guy knew his role.
Interesting Loyer discussion. Will be interesting to see his numbers now that the first, second and third options (Edey, Edey and Edey) have graduated.
If TKR finds his left hand and one of the freshman steps up, I think Purdue can earn another Big Ten title and make a tournament run. The tough schedule may take some time to produce results so this may be more of a late blooming season.
People talk about the 2019 team like it was the best of Purdue’s recent squads bc of how Carsen went nuclear during march but that team was hard to watch the whole season and deserved a 4 or 5 seed imo. It was ugly bc when Carsen wasn’t on we had no hope. Now the 2018 team was beautiful basketball
I’ll give it a C. Losing Kanon is I think the purest definition of addition by subtraction. With that being said he is still an NBA level talent so losing that hurts no matter how you slice it. Another knock is Painter could’ve went out and saved a scholarship spot or 2 for the portal bringing in a more veteran presence
@@nathanmurphy5736 I mean yes that statement is not false but it certainly is very vague. You’re right, not every portal player is better than an incoming freshman but the majority that go to the power 5 are. What is the bad take about bringing in an experienced skilled player that can provide immediate impact rather than a freshman that won’t see meaningful minutes?
In my opinion Purdue will need their 7'4" (yes he is now 7'4") to step up and start at center. Now does that mean he can't play a 4? Sure but TKR at 6'9" just isn't going to cut it. Unless TKR suddenly is scoring off the dribble, can shoot 3's decent and has improved at jumping, he is just too small for Purdue to be excellent this year. However if he has another big man, and can still post up, say a 4 guarding him? Then that changes things a lot. I somewhat disagree with Loyer, in that he folded in the biggest game last year. I think he hit is ceiling and that isn't a horrible thing but I don't expect him to improve a ton. In fact if Colvin could learn how to play defense (unlikely) and drive a bit, then I could see him starting over Loyer. The unknowns are Berg and Heide. Heide has some real upside and showed that he can play when against the best teams. Does he improve? If so then that helps Purdue a ton. If Berg can somehow step in and get minutes and be a solid backup for TKR and Jacobsen. In a perfect world, Berg would be able to come in and start and replace Edy but it appears that isn't going to happen. He seems like a great young man and a great work ethic, but it just seems he isn't quite there. So I see Purdue being good, but not good enough to beat great teams. Their ability to get a basket when they absolutely need it (Zach Edy) is gone. I don't see anyone else stepping and taking that role. The guy that everyone knows will get the basketball, and just be better than anyone guarding him. Perhaps Heide but he would need to really improve. Otherwise, again they should be a very good team. Just not a great team. Granted any team can get lucky, and I hope they do. There would be little in life that would make me happier than to see Purdue Men's Basketball win an national title.
lol Purdue will never win a title… all this write up about a team that has made 1 final 4 in the last 40 years bc they had the most dominant player in the sport… and they still couldn’t win bc ur supporting cast was non nba players and white guys that arnt actually good at basketball… Loyer and smith will never make the nba but yall talk about them like they r one of the best backcourts in the nation… fucking please, Kentucky had a small white guard that didn’t even start and wasn’t even supposed to play last year and he went 3rd overall in the draft bc he was actually good and not 21 years old in their 3rd year of college… if smith and Loyer were actually good then they wouldn’t be in college still… good luck and btw yall got one of the most annoying fan bases in all of college… and 2 of my good friends went there and 1 of em is literally delusional like most of ur fan base
@SteveMichael You don't know how Berg(who has been Edeys' punching bag for 2 years) will produce. Worst, though, you're sleeping on 7'3", U19 US stud Daniel Jacobson. But, you've been conditioned to be let down by Boiler Ball, so do you lay out how to fail and call it all year? Boiler Up🔨🔨🔨
@@edalbanese6310 I see the potential issues there could’ve been, but I don’t agree that they’re better without him. Also, the top coaches run their team in a way that they make all players that come there “program guys.” Ex. Randy Moss going to New England. Had he ended up at Purdue I think painter would have gotten the most out of him and we would’ve been a better team, but I get the relationship was ruined to a point of no return.
@@jonathandoud1 maybe, but I doubt it. I don’t think painter would’ve allowed it to happen. He’s not a bad kid, but wanted guaranteed playing time, which isn’t completely uncommon. I think he could’ve easily proven himself, earned the role and been absolutely fine on the court and in the locker room.
@@BradensBeard3 Sure Catchings could have easily proven himself, but he didn't want to do that. And, the history with that kid sort of proves my point as Painter didn't allow it to even start - because he knew what would happen. I would have loved that kid on Purdue, but it just wasn't meant to be I guess.
everyone is saying the same thing about Fletch.... usually when that happens.. the consensus is wrong. guy is part of the most successful backcourt in the schools history and people want him to put on weight instead of score more points .... the chassis has nothing to do with the stats we need from him .
@@Hal-lj7kp If he wants to keep his minutes he'll need to do more than score this year. He needs to be faster on defense, has too much trouble staying in front of fast guards
@@sometool all he needs to do on defense is 1) contest 3 pt shooters (at 6 5 he can do that) 2) force shooting guards off the 3 pt line to take 2 pts (check .. he does that) 3) or allow those guards driving in to meet one of Purdue 2 7 foot plus centers making them wish they took a shot from outside (he does that .,.. if you want to drive in on Edey in 2024 or the others in 2025-- go ahead.
Lol imagine the fate of ur team relying on 2 skinny white guards hahahahaha Braden smith is the most overrated player in ncaa… if he was on any other team no one would know his name… 60% of his assists came from throwing it inside to edey… and how many guards in the ncaa can score 12ppg while shooting 40% from 3? At least 15 lmao… and the other 15 guys ain’t 6 foot tall and white… u will all see lmao yall talking like this dude is gonna b a first round pick… ya I bet 😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t sleep on Purdue. Painter knows how to build a great team. No one thought Purdue was a top 25 team two years ago then went out and won the BigTen while earning number one ranking. Let’s go.
Good points on Will Berg. Everyone is sleeping on him. In his very limited minutes last season he looked really good, and not just against scrubs. He could wind up seeing some real minutes this season.
2019 was not the best team of Purdue’s recent run. That team was essentially a 1 man show that lived and died by Carsen Edwards. The best team had Carsen, Vince Edwards, Dakota Mathias, Isaac Haas, Ryan Cline, etc
I loved that team when Carsen Edwards was a sophomore. No disrespect to PJ Thompson, but if that team had Braden Smith instead, then you're looking at a Final Four team.
@@RegionBoilerwith Braden, final 4 no question. If we just got to play the tourney without Haas breaking his elbow I think it was possible.
@@BradensBeard3possible but would have had to play a killer Nova squad who basically all start for the NYK right now.
@@nathanmurphy5736 very true. Didn’t even recall who our opponent would’ve been after the Texas Tech game. Beating Nova would’ve been a near impossible task that season.
@@BradensBeard3 Isaac haas was overrated and robotic. Haarms was a way better defender. Cline was clutch but Mathias was overrated as hell too. I liked the 2019 team cause Eastern and Haarms played d and the walk on senior white guy knew his role.
Good video, but damn I miss Carsen Edwards every time he gets brought up 😂
Ant Wright is the man - good get, Dauster
Fletch has been bulking up
Interesting Loyer discussion. Will be interesting to see his numbers now that the first, second and third options (Edey, Edey and Edey) have graduated.
"Jack Benter" Nobody will outwork that young man. He puts on 20lbs of muscle.. Look out!
If TKR finds his left hand and one of the freshman steps up, I think Purdue can earn another Big Ten title and make a tournament run. The tough schedule may take some time to produce results so this may be more of a late blooming season.
Jacobsen and Berg are going to be a very good young 5 combo. No one talks about the 2- 7’3” Purdue centers is able to bring to the court.
I love Ant Wright
Ant wright definitely a keep great Big 10 basketball mind
People talk about the 2019 team like it was the best of Purdue’s recent squads bc of how Carsen went nuclear during march but that team was hard to watch the whole season and deserved a 4 or 5 seed imo. It was ugly bc when Carsen wasn’t on we had no hope. Now the 2018 team was beautiful basketball
@ItsAntWright - GOAT. Great pickup guys
Wil Berg will surprise people
why does Furst not get any love???? 2 years ago he was better than TKR....he just go lost in the shuffle last year
I’ll give it a C. Losing Kanon is I think the purest definition of addition by subtraction. With that being said he is still an NBA level talent so losing that hurts no matter how you slice it.
Another knock is Painter could’ve went out and saved a scholarship spot or 2 for the portal bringing in a more veteran presence
Portal players are not necessarily better than freshman, bad take
@@nathanmurphy5736 I mean yes that statement is not false but it certainly is very vague. You’re right, not every portal player is better than an incoming freshman but the majority that go to the power 5 are.
What is the bad take about bringing in an experienced skilled player that can provide immediate impact rather than a freshman that won’t see meaningful minutes?
@@nathanmurphy5736they are when you have too many freshman and need a senior leader
We need some NBA horses to beat UCONN.
Fletcher Loyer NBA guy 😂
Ya imagine the fate of your team relying on 2 skinny white guards hahahahahaha
@@viperalec16 both are very good college hoopers but mentioning the NBA in the same sentence as Loyer is hilarious
In my opinion Purdue will need their 7'4" (yes he is now 7'4") to step up and start at center. Now does that mean he can't play a 4? Sure but TKR at 6'9" just isn't going to cut it. Unless TKR suddenly is scoring off the dribble, can shoot 3's decent and has improved at jumping, he is just too small for Purdue to be excellent this year. However if he has another big man, and can still post up, say a 4 guarding him? Then that changes things a lot. I somewhat disagree with Loyer, in that he folded in the biggest game last year. I think he hit is ceiling and that isn't a horrible thing but I don't expect him to improve a ton. In fact if Colvin could learn how to play defense (unlikely) and drive a bit, then I could see him starting over Loyer. The unknowns are Berg and Heide. Heide has some real upside and showed that he can play when against the best teams. Does he improve? If so then that helps Purdue a ton. If Berg can somehow step in and get minutes and be a solid backup for TKR and Jacobsen. In a perfect world, Berg would be able to come in and start and replace Edy but it appears that isn't going to happen. He seems like a great young man and a great work ethic, but it just seems he isn't quite there. So I see Purdue being good, but not good enough to beat great teams. Their ability to get a basket when they absolutely need it (Zach Edy) is gone. I don't see anyone else stepping and taking that role. The guy that everyone knows will get the basketball, and just be better than anyone guarding him. Perhaps Heide but he would need to really improve. Otherwise, again they should be a very good team. Just not a great team. Granted any team can get lucky, and I hope they do. There would be little in life that would make me happier than to see Purdue Men's Basketball win an national title.
Solid self-handicap👏
Colvin's defense improved tremendously by the end of the season, which is why his PT increased so much.
lol Purdue will never win a title… all this write up about a team that has made 1 final 4 in the last 40 years bc they had the most dominant player in the sport… and they still couldn’t win bc ur supporting cast was non nba players and white guys that arnt actually good at basketball… Loyer and smith will never make the nba but yall talk about them like they r one of the best backcourts in the nation… fucking please, Kentucky had a small white guard that didn’t even start and wasn’t even supposed to play last year and he went 3rd overall in the draft bc he was actually good and not 21 years old in their 3rd year of college… if smith and Loyer were actually good then they wouldn’t be in college still… good luck and btw yall got one of the most annoying fan bases in all of college… and 2 of my good friends went there and 1 of em is literally delusional like most of ur fan base
TKR is a 4 and will not play the 5
@SteveMichael
You don't know how Berg(who has been Edeys' punching bag for 2 years) will produce.
Worst, though, you're sleeping on 7'3", U19 US stud Daniel Jacobson.
But, you've been conditioned to be let down by Boiler Ball, so do you lay out how to fail and call it all year?
Boiler Up🔨🔨🔨
6:24 National Title Game, Fletch had 0 points. Can’t have a guy in his position and ability have 0 points in a National Title Game.
I actually love this guy, Ant. But seriously, witness protection or what? What's the deal, man? Not a fan of video?
What a terrible addition to Fo68. Hoodie is dim.
Why does ant always look homeless?
B- because they lost their top recruit. Kanon Catchings situation was sort of a shit show. B+/A- if Kanon came to Purdue.
Purdue is better without him.
@@edalbanese6310 I see the potential issues there could’ve been, but I don’t agree that they’re better without him. Also, the top coaches run their team in a way that they make all players that come there “program guys.” Ex. Randy Moss going to New England. Had he ended up at Purdue I think painter would have gotten the most out of him and we would’ve been a better team, but I get the relationship was ruined to a point of no return.
@@BradensBeard3 Catchings would have made this team great on the court and a mess in the lockerroom
@@jonathandoud1 maybe, but I doubt it. I don’t think painter would’ve allowed it to happen. He’s not a bad kid, but wanted guaranteed playing time, which isn’t completely uncommon. I think he could’ve easily proven himself, earned the role and been absolutely fine on the court and in the locker room.
@@BradensBeard3 Sure Catchings could have easily proven himself, but he didn't want to do that. And, the history with that kid sort of proves my point as Painter didn't allow it to even start - because he knew what would happen. I would have loved that kid on Purdue, but it just wasn't meant to be I guess.
Fletch: the brain is there, needs to upgrade the chassis
everyone is saying the same thing about Fletch.... usually when that happens.. the consensus is wrong. guy is part of the most successful backcourt in the schools history and people want him to put on weight instead of score more points .... the chassis has nothing to do with the stats we need from him .
@@Hal-lj7kp If he wants to keep his minutes he'll need to do more than score this year. He needs to be faster on defense, has too much trouble staying in front of fast guards
@@sometool all he needs to do on defense is 1) contest 3 pt shooters (at 6 5 he can do that) 2) force shooting guards off the 3 pt line to take 2 pts (check .. he does that) 3) or allow those guards driving in to meet one of Purdue 2 7 foot plus centers making them wish they took a shot from outside (he does that .,.. if you want to drive in on Edey in 2024 or the others in 2025-- go ahead.
@@Hal-lj7kp I hope you're right.
TKR is a bull-- reminded me of Mason when we saw him and Will play at Dizzy Runs pro-am over the summer
Lol imagine the fate of ur team relying on 2 skinny white guards hahahahaha Braden smith is the most overrated player in ncaa… if he was on any other team no one would know his name… 60% of his assists came from throwing it inside to edey… and how many guards in the ncaa can score 12ppg while shooting 40% from 3? At least 15 lmao… and the other 15 guys ain’t 6 foot tall and white… u will all see lmao yall talking like this dude is gonna b a first round pick… ya I bet 😂😂😂😂😂
Besides NBA talk....let's visit this comment after the season to see how many top 10 teams these 2 skinny kids destroy.