I have a feeling that Loki's current situation came about by lies, and a part of the solution will rely on Usopp discovering them, and then reverse them through even greater lies and trickery
@@williamgordon5443 That definitely seems like the best reason for him to gain a giant army following him. I'll reduce my predictions on the value of Usopp's lies being at their most important when prompting the truth from the involved parties.
The WG sent a giant in as a spy to try and get hold of the fruit. Loki ate the fruit to keep it from the traitor, his dad was killed and it was all blamed on him.
Lmao, this all stems from the assumption that Luffy thinks Loki is a decent guy (which is still a stretch at this point). My other idea was that the Hajrudin may be the odd one out. Luffy has had a relaxed reaction to everyone he’s met thus far, including Loki. Luffy and Hajrudin had a bad interaction at first. Luffy one shot him for a reason after all.
I've said it in a few other comments on videos about Loki but I'm like 90% sure its gonna be a frenemy thing with Luffy and Loki. They are gonna agree with each other on most things and just be a pair of goofballs but they will end up having a clash of dreams that they need to settle with their fists, probably in a giant goofy cartoon fight with all sorts of silly "freeze frames". I don't see this turning into a boss fight where Luffy is trying to like feed the orphans of elbaf or something it will just be two dudes being bros trying to decide who truly is the so called "Sun God". I'm also fairly sure Loki calling himself "the sun god who will destroy the world" might just be him quoting what the other giants call him and he doesn't really care about all that and just wants to live his dream just like Luffy doesn't care about being Joyboy reborn
I think Loki’s main inner conflict will be about his destiny to destroy the world, and how there’s nothing he can do to change that. But through interactions with Luffy, he’ll see that everyone, including him, can be free. Even from destiny.
My take on the Hajrudin situation is that he was not born as a prince and is not related to Loki by blood. Harald was the king until he was killed by Loki but since Loki was arrested and chained up he could not succeed Harald as the next king which leaves the most important position in the kingdom empty, my theory is that Hajrudin's father took up the position of king of Elbaf through whatever means of succession the giants adhere to. This would explain why Hajrudin was treated like a commoner in the flashbacks because back then he wasn't a prince yet.
Bastard son As the oldest would be slightly different from most bastard sons. The situation would have to be that it was an arranged marriage and the king fell in love with someone like a commoner and had a son. But you know, royalty Often, bastard sons are after a marriage and usually younger. Both explanations are good to explain the retcon in a really nice adaptable way.
Hajrudin and Loki are brothers. Paralleling Loki declaring he and Óðinn are "blood-brothers" in _Lokkasenna_ with context of this reference being lost. There is also parallels with the sons of Haraldr Fairhair: Hákon The Good and Eirikr Bloodaxe.
Hajrudin wasnt really treated like a commoner, we don’t know how giant royalty and aristocracy works. He didn’t seem to have family, but he was being personally trained by a giant veteran. That could be a clue. He also mentioned with the Mera Mera he would be king in Dressrosa. This likely suggests a DF based primogeniture in their country. The thing about Elbaf is it isn’t a WG sanctioned member state, and most of its known natives had not really been back to the eyes of the reader. Hajrudin’s armor could actually be the first sign of his lineage
I think Loki is going to be like all straw hats, and villianized for rebelling against wrongheadedness and corruption, so accepted the negative labels. Pirate hunter, their, liar, monster...Loki just rebelled and was stigmatized. 💔
I just had a thought, what if Loki's fruit can interact with the Luffy's like Bonney's did? If the moment of his prophecy showed something like that It could also explain why he thinks of himself as the sun god that will destroy the world. At first i thought maybe it wa`s a forest god fruit cus of Yggdrasil but that's had to confuse. Then i remembered that trees photosynthesis so maybe it has to do with how it reacts around the sun god fruit or its awakening.
18:30 You forgot about Big Mom, look back on how she got her Soul power. And, most likely, that's how Loki took that devil fruit, and maybe there were some unpredicted circumstances, for example, the King of Elbaf was poisoned or ill. So, his devil should have immediately transferred what Loki did, but everyone misunderstood the situation without knowing the truth.
If Loki is just a strong guy I would find it a bit disappointing. Myth Loki is a trickster god rarely fighting directly, often changing his shape to different animals and/or manipulating people, sometimes to his own detriment just to create more chaos. So whether he is a bad guy or not I hope his fighting abilities is more about him being smart then just strong.
HAJRUDIN AND LOKI HAVE DIFFERENT MOTHERS!!!! I don’t know why everyone seems to forget that b@stards are a thing?! they said Hajrudin was a “son of the king” never was it said he was a prince, don’t know why people don’t think king Harold could’ve had a child with someone who wasn’t the queen (if they have one) making hajrudin an illegitimate child and not the heir like Loki …. I think people are trying waaaay too hard on this one and already has a logical explanation that’s been a part of stories since the dawn of time
0:48 The flower he was handing Lola could’ve been off of the head of a flower-head specied person who he recently un-alived. I also think the silhouette highlights the smile for a reason too also trying to pass off as innocent but really represents something deeper like the Will of D or just how truly insane Loki is
The endless war could have been against ancient giants and they are scared Loki restart their race again since his mother was a ancien giant , their natural enemy ( just a guess for fun )
interesting thought, would be a nice way to connect the current story with one we've been waiting for. also no hate but its spelled Harald, a herald is a messenger.
@@diggbeedowrong I believe the Gods Knights did this to create a power vacuum so the World Government now have a pathway to take Elbaph for themselves.
I like the theory. I have some ideas as well like maybe the elbaf royal family knows how to steal df like bb or maybe they have a practice of killing the previous owner to inherit it like in aot with titans? I also think there’s a possibility hajrudin is the bastard son of king Harold which is why he went after the flame fruit so he could plead his case to throne
A huge miss in this video is forgetting both blackbeard and big mom displayed that its possible to take someones devil fruit power away from them aftrr they die without it going to a new fruit. We just dont know how but we know its possible. Loki could know how tho.
Random theory for funzies: Loki is consider the shame of Elbaf because he helped the twins sister escape with one of the islands revered items, the devil fruit that Big Mama uses or one of the swords that was stuck in the ground in front of Yggdrasil from the Void century. Lola or the sister had it taken and tried to escape. Loki, maybe being told Big Mama would allow the marriage in exchange for the item or not wanting to show Lola his resolve to her, helped her or the sister to escape. It's the sword she infused with souls. His betrayal by allowing such a revered item, a sword that may have been symbolic of when Joyboy beat two ancient giants or making a pact to unite warring Giant clans to fight together during the war.
My theory : a bit like in attack of titans (giants here...), fruits can also be transmitted by eating the heart of the current owner of the power (BB with WB, big mom with mother caramel) I guess the king asked Loki to do it as some sort of ancestral ritual. But someone not from the family that wasn't supposed to be here during the ritual saw Loki eat his dad and spread the info that he murdered him. This bad reputation he now has + certainly some past trauma being bullied for being the 2nd son or smth else made him this apparently blood thirsty looking guy. Wouldn't be surprised if it was again some classic Oda making us feel a certain way about a character to then show us what really determined him and that he isn't really the bad guy we thought he was
Viking kings and princes went on voyages and established kingdoms all over Europe. England, Iceland, Russia, Normandy (and England _again),_ with expeditions venturing further than their known world limits. Why would Elbaphians be any different?
Really good take: could be a catrina Devon sabotage. But on a side note: I think it would he sad if there was a king riku like back story where loki fought the king thinking it was a honorable battle and afterwards found out that the Kings mouth was taped up or something like that. If loki is an antagonist I suspect kid will release him. We could be suprised that it's harujdin is a bad guy and is responsible for the triggering the incident that the strawhat fleet will eventually cause
I just started the video but I had to comment this before I forget but I just thought of a theory. What if Loki was good and kind until the Lola switcheroo. At which he became so enraged going scorched earth on everyone. He kills the dad to get “the strongest df” wanting to get revenge on BM. After killing the king, he is imprisoned…
I believe Hajrudin was not allowed to form his own Pirate Crew. I remember him having set out against the wishes of the elder giants since he was not the rightful captain of the Giant Pirates and was supposed to wait for Dorry and Brogy to get back home before sailing out. I could totally be wrong though.
Lemme take a swing at this. (Apparently we don't have all the info necessary yet, as always we wait on Oda, but) So, Loki has his eye bandaged, which tells me right away, that's part of his power. In other words, don't look into his eyes. This is what the giants are trying to stop. The D.F. he ate was achieved by trickery and murder, just like black beard did. Which tells me the fruit is cursed, just like B.B. and Loki ate it and took on the curse or became the cursed one because of the fruit he ate. His brother saw this happen and headed out to find a fruit (Mera Mera No Me) To do battle with his brother. That D.F is always the one mistaken for the real Nika D.F. Or course Ace had it and made his promises to Wano etc...and failed. So again the Mera Mera was mistaken for the real Sun God fruit, hence why bro was trying to win it at Dressrosa. (I think this was part of Oda's plan, not retconned.) Now then, onto Loki. His eyes are possibly circled, like Zunesha's because he ate the cursed fruit and now is under control of the fruit. Which also explains his kinda Django look. (possible hypnotism) My only issue here is B.B. ate a cursed fruit but doesn't have the circled eyes. So he might not have the circled eyes but he might. Like how Zoan fruits have a will of their own. Loki is under this Zoan fruits will and now he wants to destroy the world. Same as how Luffy's fruit made him happy and wants to have a great adventure etc... The fruit Loki ate is def an Elbaph fruit lineage, because it deals with war and end of the world. So prob this fruit was used before and whoever used it came under the same curse that Loki's under. They possibly tried to end the world and almost won, hence the void century, whoever ate this fruit created that. (This is hard to figure out now because that could have been Imu, but maybe not maybe it was the previous user of this fruit?) THe fruit was guarded by the giants and no one was supposed to eat it but again, Loki screwed it up. He was prob a very sweet guy before he ate the fruit and when he did then he became this animal he is now and that's why the giants turned on him. (Now what kinda fruit did he eat? Well, I think it's a Zoan that has pressed its will on Loki, I think it's an evil one like B.B., It has some kind of power of fire/sun. Its will is to destroy the world through fire. So, maybe it's the Zoan fruit model Surtr) Which is the fire giant in Norse mythology who destroys the world with a sword that can catch fire, just like Shanks.) It might not be Surtr persay, but I think that's the idea Oda's using for the fruit.
Kinda get Sabo feelings around Rhodo and Loki, like there was a purge and those guys switched stuff up, or tried and were 'cursed.' Law and Corazon ish too. We'll see what Oda does
The devil fruit that’s been passed down is the mythical zoan Surtur. In order mythology he’s Loki father and a fire giant, he has Loki make Him an incredible sword and uses it to end the world or destroy 2 world trees, Ragnarok the fight between gods and giants comes To an end when once again surtur destroys the world tree, that would be your previous two towns the world has been destroyed, as well as connection why harjudden wanted the mera meta fruit because it’s the next best thing it would Make him a giant that’s on fire… been sayin this and I’m gonna sit back and watch that play out
The will of D. Is the will of the Douriki Clan, they were obliterated during void century. The Douriki knowledge was stolen and is now used by CP0 and WG only.
You have to eat the user, as proven by Big Mom (and probably Blackbeard). Maybe king was against Ragnarok and Loki did what he had to do. Sometimes you just gotta do what's necessary. By his design you know he's a "good" guy deep down (like Katakuri).
LOKI EDITS on tik tok goes hard 😳😳 it give soo much AURA , with that “ Me and the DEVIL, walking side by side “ song muhuhaha 😈😈🔥🔥🔥 can’t wait for more
THANK YOU!!!!! why is everyone so convinced that Loki is a bad guy? WE JUST GOT HERE! literally EVERY arc and ally is portrayed as a villain at first to have that flipped on its head.
I am still not sure that the skull wearing dude is Rodo. I know it feels that way with how the chapters was written but the Skull guy never took off the mask. I feel Rodo has used some devil fruit or hypnosis styled power to cause the problems. Rodo may have used such a power to change the personality of the Skull guy and loki. We end up finding out Rodo is way more powerful than we original thought and is the true enemy.
Either Loki or Rodo will be the bad giant example for Usopp. Since Oda already introduced cannibalism to Elbaf with Big Mom, i wonder if that is one of the plot points. The giants know about that so if king Harald did have the devil fruit maybe Loki aquired the fruit that way. Also Hajrudin is most likely a bastard child since Loki is refered to the official child. So it makes sense why they skipped Hajrudin.
I haven't read in a bit, but I dig the theory crafting. Is it stated that the Loki character is Loki or did they introduce themselves as Loki? Are we sure we're interacting with THE Loki?
What if Rodo actually killed the king and right before his death, the king passed down his devil fruit to Loki and somehow Rodo framed Loki for the kings death.
I think Loki's fruit is a smile fruit that cp9 swapped after injurying loki's dad. loki kills his dad to give him and warrior's death. the smile fruit has no powers and is just crazy thinking he is nikka because of always laughing. I think he has some crazy Haki hence it need the whole country to help tie him down. Hajrudin going to dressrosa is to get ace's fruit is to show the people that he is the true heir to the throne and is the sun god compared to loki
Norse pagan here: There is some conflict on what Baldr really was. Most of our information about the Norse gods come from Christian second hand accounts and its believed they changed baldr to be more jesus like in his death and life. In reality from other sources and small mentions in different stories Baldr could have been closer to a war god. But its possible Oda also didnt know this so its fair either way
I thi k people really want him to be this really cool villain, but I do agree there is way more to him. It wouldn't surprise me if the real Loki is closer to the silhouette we originally saw and this ultra cool Loki is an illusion.
im so excited for luffy to free loki literally next chapter lol, no but seriously a lot of very good points in this video, i dont think loki will be completely redeemed but i do think we'll come to understand why he killed his father the king
LOKI 4 NAKAMAAAAAAA PS after watching the video: Oh Loki definitely had to kill harald for the fruit. Its passed down the royal bloodline, so obviously the king of elbaf would have eaten the fruit as he became king. So to get that fruit, Loki HAD TO kill the king, otherwise it wouldnt be in circulation to be eaten in the first place.
Im betting his father was a player with many womans , Loki mother is from some strange race considered cursed by giants , either the race is strange or is their enemy or is their weakness Ill go with ancien giants The reason he killed his father probably has a logic reason and his father wanted it or it was revenge related to his mother Oda has a strange habit to kill mothers , now im even starting to think the One Piece is related to it lol
LOKI HAS BONNEY ORIGINAL DEVIL FRUIT (REMEMBER SHE NEVER ATE A DEVIL FRUIT) Loki was born on the day big mom fuked elbaph so I think the giants see him as a blight then someone can be manipulating him like doffy RODO SEEM TO SEE HUMANS AS INFERIOR TO GIANTS BUT LOKI WANTED TO MARRY A HUMAN
Gerde compares Road to Loki because she finds him that disgusting and dishonorable with how he treats his opponents in battle. Underhanded sabotage and guerilla warfare, as opposed to ‘honorable combat’ tactics. Buggy the Clown, Caesar Clown, and Captain Kuro would be “disgusting creeps” of a similar caliber I believe. From how you are citing the rough, not respectful, language used around Hajrudin, I am thinking it is more a “elder warriors addressing their younger comrades” thing. Or else, it may be that Hajrudin, despite being older than Loki, is an illegitimate child of the Elbaph royals. Am I the only one getting a “Marvel’s Thor and Loki” dynamic from JoyGirl’s script concerning the two princes?
With all of these theories I think everybody forgetting what this arc is made for; loki being strong or Yonko level enemy is funny as hell. There is no build-up , no scenario importance and if he is that strong it become chrcters like katakuri or even Kaido weak. Its literally stupid . Oda never do it. Both Loki and Road are just tricksters. They are deceivers and thats why they are "shame" Iam betting killing his father is not even the problem . We are talking about "land of the never ending war" Iam betting he kill his father with a Dirty trick and thats the only problem which cause shame* because Loki is not a real warrior and he is weak. All his words are bluff. He try to show himself strong. Why? Because this ark is for Ussop(!) Remember that people😅 loki is rival of Ussop! This ark Ussop gonna learn he can never be "strong warrior of the sea" if he keep telling lies and try to run away from strong enemies. Even from chapter 1 Oda spoil this idea with the cat/Leon.
This is kind of stupid. Giants are the strongest race according to Oda. It took all their forces just to takedown Loki. Elbaf isn’t a WG sanctioned member state with strong connections to other pirates , so it makes perfect sense they have powerful forces. Big Mom said if she married into Elbaf she would be Pirate King. You are just relying on dumb power-scaler logic. One powerful guy existing doesn’t harm others power or antagonism at all. This is a location not directly connected to the greater events we knew of. The world being bigger than we think is a consistent notion in OP. I swear if it wasn’t for power scaling half the gripes in shounen would disappear.
@acetofresh1 No Iam relying on what we have until this point. Giants normaly stronger thn other races but not that much(!) We see that again and again in the story. Big mom literally oblitrate their village when she was a kid(!) Whitebeard pirates literaly defeating special forces of giants at marinefort(plus dont forget they were high rank Marines) . Loki is brother to Hayrudin and Luffy Beats Hayrudin with just 1 punch (also dont forget it was before the wano training). Morover we dont know what "all their forces" mean. İs it reference to power??? Or is it reference to Loki has so much tricks/illusions/ traps in his sleeve so its hard to figureout where is he or what he turned into?? For me that sentence make my theory stronger. I believe loki just has deceiving powers so Ussop need to unlock god level obsrvation haki for defeating hım.
loki will be freed and will join the straw hats by bringing about "ragnarok" which is the end of the KNOWN world, that being the monarchy that the WG brought about, and then the rebirth of the new fully free world of Nika
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I have a feeling that Loki's current situation came about by lies, and a part of the solution will rely on Usopp discovering them, and then reverse them through even greater lies and trickery
I'm imagining the situation being solved by Usopp actually revealing the truth. (Granted, part of that could involve Usopp lying to some degree.)
@@williamgordon5443 That definitely seems like the best reason for him to gain a giant army following him.
I'll reduce my predictions on the value of Usopp's lies being at their most important when prompting the truth from the involved parties.
The two greatest liars teaming up to cause chaos? I would pay good money to see that.
The WG sent a giant in as a spy to try and get hold of the fruit. Loki ate the fruit to keep it from the traitor, his dad was killed and it was all blamed on him.
I'll give you a million dollars if this turns out to be true in a few weeks 👍
heha seems plausible
Lmao, this all stems from the assumption that Luffy thinks Loki is a decent guy (which is still a stretch at this point).
My other idea was that the Hajrudin may be the odd one out. Luffy has had a relaxed reaction to everyone he’s met thus far, including Loki. Luffy and Hajrudin had a bad interaction at first. Luffy one shot him for a reason after all.
Or maybe Blackbeard pirates went to Elbaph . Blackbeard is collecting strong D.F
I've said it in a few other comments on videos about Loki but I'm like 90% sure its gonna be a frenemy thing with Luffy and Loki. They are gonna agree with each other on most things and just be a pair of goofballs but they will end up having a clash of dreams that they need to settle with their fists, probably in a giant goofy cartoon fight with all sorts of silly "freeze frames". I don't see this turning into a boss fight where Luffy is trying to like feed the orphans of elbaf or something it will just be two dudes being bros trying to decide who truly is the so called "Sun God". I'm also fairly sure Loki calling himself "the sun god who will destroy the world" might just be him quoting what the other giants call him and he doesn't really care about all that and just wants to live his dream just like Luffy doesn't care about being Joyboy reborn
I think Loki’s main inner conflict will be about his destiny to destroy the world, and how there’s nothing he can do to change that. But through interactions with Luffy, he’ll see that everyone, including him, can be free. Even from destiny.
What if loki didnt kill his father? But because he’s a bit of a liar no one’s believes him. I can see him as a mix of Ussop and momonosuke.
My take on the Hajrudin situation is that he was not born as a prince and is not related to Loki by blood. Harald was the king until he was killed by Loki but since Loki was arrested and chained up he could not succeed Harald as the next king which leaves the most important position in the kingdom empty, my theory is that Hajrudin's father took up the position of king of Elbaf through whatever means of succession the giants adhere to. This would explain why Hajrudin was treated like a commoner in the flashbacks because back then he wasn't a prince yet.
He could also be a bastard son.
Bastard son
As the oldest would be slightly different from most bastard sons. The situation would have to be that it was an arranged marriage and the king fell in love with someone like a commoner and had a son. But you know, royalty
Often, bastard sons are after a marriage and usually younger.
Both explanations are good to explain the retcon in a really nice adaptable way.
This assumes they treat their royalty differently.
Hajrudin and Loki are brothers. Paralleling Loki declaring he and Óðinn are "blood-brothers" in _Lokkasenna_ with context of this reference being lost.
There is also parallels with the sons of Haraldr Fairhair: Hákon The Good and Eirikr Bloodaxe.
Hajrudin wasnt really treated like a commoner, we don’t know how giant royalty and aristocracy works. He didn’t seem to have family, but he was being personally trained by a giant veteran. That could be a clue. He also mentioned with the Mera Mera he would be king in Dressrosa. This likely suggests a DF based primogeniture in their country. The thing about Elbaf is it isn’t a WG sanctioned member state, and most of its known natives had not really been back to the eyes of the reader. Hajrudin’s armor could actually be the first sign of his lineage
Lola isnt a reliable source though remember how she thought big mom would help the straw hats
Good point!
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I think Loki is going to be like all straw hats, and villianized for rebelling against wrongheadedness and corruption, so accepted the negative labels. Pirate hunter, their, liar, monster...Loki just rebelled and was stigmatized. 💔
I just had a thought, what if Loki's fruit can interact with the Luffy's like Bonney's did? If the moment of his prophecy showed something like that It could also explain why he thinks of himself as the sun god that will destroy the world. At first i thought maybe it wa`s a forest god fruit cus of Yggdrasil but that's had to confuse. Then i remembered that trees photosynthesis so maybe it has to do with how it reacts around the sun god fruit or its awakening.
18:30 You forgot about Big Mom, look back on how she got her Soul power. And, most likely, that's how Loki took that devil fruit, and maybe there were some unpredicted circumstances, for example, the King of Elbaf was poisoned or ill. So, his devil should have immediately transferred what Loki did, but everyone misunderstood the situation without knowing the truth.
either he has lunarian power or something related to it
If Loki is just a strong guy I would find it a bit disappointing. Myth Loki is a trickster god rarely fighting directly, often changing his shape to different animals and/or manipulating people, sometimes to his own detriment just to create more chaos.
So whether he is a bad guy or not I hope his fighting abilities is more about him being smart then just strong.
I’m not an expert in mythology especially Norse, but I’m pretty sure Loki is quite physically strong. He just prefers to use magic and tricks.
Me too, me too.
this is also a play on mythology not following it to the T lol. dont take it so literal.
HAJRUDIN AND LOKI HAVE DIFFERENT MOTHERS!!!! I don’t know why everyone seems to forget that b@stards are a thing?! they said Hajrudin was a “son of the king” never was it said he was a prince, don’t know why people don’t think king Harold could’ve had a child with someone who wasn’t the queen (if they have one) making hajrudin an illegitimate child and not the heir like Loki …. I think people are trying waaaay too hard on this one and already has a logical explanation that’s been a part of stories since the dawn of time
0:48 The flower he was handing Lola could’ve been off of the head of a flower-head specied person who he recently un-alived. I also think the silhouette highlights the smile for a reason too also trying to pass off as innocent but really represents something deeper like the Will of D or just how truly insane Loki is
The endless war could have been against ancient giants and they are scared Loki restart their race again since his mother was a ancien giant , their natural enemy
( just a guess for fun )
I feel like the God Knights had a hand in King Harald's passing
interesting thought, would be a nice way to connect the current story with one we've been waiting for. also no hate but its spelled Harald, a herald is a messenger.
@@diggbeedowrong I believe the Gods Knights did this to create a power vacuum so the World Government now have a pathway to take Elbaph for themselves.
also loki being a sun god to bring about something reminds of cat viper intro and him being the one who waits for the dawn of the world
Luffy fixed prince’s family issue.
Hajrudin is probably the Jon snow of the family not fully related to Loki that’s why he became a pirate and wasn’t next in line to be king
Rodo probably influenced Loki and is the reason Loki started behaving whichever way he did/does.
It's more likely that they just kept the fruit like a national treasure and didn't consume it.
I enjoy your theories the best! Keep the videos coming! 🙏
Thank you!
seems like a new favorite character
I like the theory. I have some ideas as well like maybe the elbaf royal family knows how to steal df like bb or maybe they have a practice of killing the previous owner to inherit it like in aot with titans? I also think there’s a possibility hajrudin is the bastard son of king Harold which is why he went after the flame fruit so he could plead his case to throne
A huge miss in this video is forgetting both blackbeard and big mom displayed that its possible to take someones devil fruit power away from them aftrr they die without it going to a new fruit. We just dont know how but we know its possible. Loki could know how tho.
nah loki is probably a hero and a real non fodder giant
Accursed might just be an insult. "I'll get those accursed meddlers" emphasing contempt as opposed to a literal curse.
Random theory for funzies:
Loki is consider the shame of Elbaf because he helped the twins sister escape with one of the islands revered items, the devil fruit that Big Mama uses or one of the swords that was stuck in the ground in front of Yggdrasil from the Void century. Lola or the sister had it taken and tried to escape. Loki, maybe being told Big Mama would allow the marriage in exchange for the item or not wanting to show Lola his resolve to her, helped her or the sister to escape. It's the sword she infused with souls.
His betrayal by allowing such a revered item, a sword that may have been symbolic of when Joyboy beat two ancient giants or making a pact to unite warring Giant clans to fight together during the war.
My theory : a bit like in attack of titans (giants here...), fruits can also be transmitted by eating the heart of the current owner of the power (BB with WB, big mom with mother caramel) I guess the king asked Loki to do it as some sort of ancestral ritual. But someone not from the family that wasn't supposed to be here during the ritual saw Loki eat his dad and spread the info that he murdered him. This bad reputation he now has + certainly some past trauma being bullied for being the 2nd son or smth else made him this apparently blood thirsty looking guy. Wouldn't be surprised if it was again some classic Oda making us feel a certain way about a character to then show us what really determined him and that he isn't really the bad guy we thought he was
Another, darker possibly, is that Loki ate his father's heart to steal his devil fruit
Like the theory with how Blackbeard got Whitebeard’s power so soon after his death.
Viking kings and princes went on voyages and established kingdoms all over Europe.
England, Iceland, Russia, Normandy (and England _again),_ with expeditions venturing further than their known world limits.
Why would Elbaphians be any different?
Really good review joygirl I been watching a while now 😌💖
thanks for the support!
Really good take: could be a catrina Devon sabotage.
But on a side note: I think it would he sad if there was a king riku like back story where loki fought the king thinking it was a honorable battle and afterwards found out that the Kings mouth was taped up or something like that.
If loki is an antagonist I suspect kid will release him. We could be suprised that it's harujdin is a bad guy and is responsible for the triggering the incident that the strawhat fleet will eventually cause
I just started the video but I had to comment this before I forget but I just thought of a theory. What if Loki was good and kind until the Lola switcheroo. At which he became so enraged going scorched earth on everyone. He kills the dad to get “the strongest df” wanting to get revenge on BM. After killing the king, he is imprisoned…
I believe Hajrudin was not allowed to form his own Pirate Crew. I remember him having set out against the wishes of the elder giants since he was not the rightful captain of the Giant Pirates and was supposed to wait for Dorry and Brogy to get back home before sailing out.
I could totally be wrong though.
Great thoughts on this conversation.
I feel like Jarul of the Giant Warrior Pirates is acting as a regent for Elbaph
Lemme take a swing at this. (Apparently we don't have all the info necessary yet, as always we wait on Oda, but)
So, Loki has his eye bandaged, which tells me right away, that's part of his power. In other words, don't look into his eyes. This is what the giants are trying to stop.
The D.F. he ate was achieved by trickery and murder, just like black beard did. Which tells me the fruit is cursed, just like B.B. and Loki ate it and took on the curse or became the cursed one because of the fruit he ate.
His brother saw this happen and headed out to find a fruit (Mera Mera No Me) To do battle with his brother. That D.F is always the one mistaken for the real Nika D.F. Or course Ace had it and made his promises to Wano etc...and failed. So again the Mera Mera was mistaken for the real Sun God fruit, hence why bro was trying to win it at Dressrosa. (I think this was part of Oda's plan, not retconned.)
Now then, onto Loki. His eyes are possibly circled, like Zunesha's because he ate the cursed fruit and now is under control of the fruit. Which also explains his kinda Django look. (possible hypnotism) My only issue here is B.B. ate a cursed fruit but doesn't have the circled eyes. So he might not have the circled eyes but he might.
Like how Zoan fruits have a will of their own. Loki is under this Zoan fruits will and now he wants to destroy the world. Same as how Luffy's fruit made him happy and wants to have a great adventure etc...
The fruit Loki ate is def an Elbaph fruit lineage, because it deals with war and end of the world. So prob this fruit was used before and whoever used it came under the same curse that Loki's under. They possibly tried to end the world and almost won, hence the void century, whoever ate this fruit created that. (This is hard to figure out now because that could have been Imu, but maybe not maybe it was the previous user of this fruit?)
THe fruit was guarded by the giants and no one was supposed to eat it but again, Loki screwed it up. He was prob a very sweet guy before he ate the fruit and when he did then he became this animal he is now and that's why the giants turned on him.
(Now what kinda fruit did he eat? Well, I think it's a Zoan that has pressed its will on Loki, I think it's an evil one like B.B., It has some kind of power of fire/sun. Its will is to destroy the world through fire. So, maybe it's the Zoan fruit model Surtr) Which is the fire giant in Norse mythology who destroys the world with a sword that can catch fire, just like Shanks.) It might not be Surtr persay, but I think that's the idea Oda's using for the fruit.
Kinda get Sabo feelings around Rhodo and Loki, like there was a purge and those guys switched stuff up, or tried and were 'cursed.' Law and Corazon ish too. We'll see what Oda does
The devil fruit that’s been passed down is the mythical
zoan Surtur. In order mythology he’s Loki father and a fire giant, he has Loki make
Him an incredible sword and uses it to end the world or destroy 2 world trees, Ragnarok the fight between gods and giants comes
To an end when once again surtur destroys the world tree, that would be your previous two towns the world has been destroyed, as well as connection why harjudden wanted the mera meta fruit because it’s the next best thing it would
Make him a giant that’s on fire… been sayin this and I’m gonna sit back and watch that play out
The will of D. Is the will of the Douriki Clan, they were obliterated during void century. The Douriki knowledge was stolen and is now used by CP0 and WG only.
You have to eat the user, as proven by Big Mom (and probably Blackbeard). Maybe king was against Ragnarok and Loki did what he had to do. Sometimes you just gotta do what's necessary. By his design you know he's a "good" guy deep down (like Katakuri).
LOKI EDITS on tik tok goes hard 😳😳 it give soo much AURA , with that “ Me and the DEVIL, walking side by side “ song muhuhaha 😈😈🔥🔥🔥 can’t wait for more
THANK YOU!!!!! why is everyone so convinced that Loki is a bad guy? WE JUST GOT HERE! literally EVERY arc and ally is portrayed as a villain at first to have that flipped on its head.
I am still not sure that the skull wearing dude is Rodo. I know it feels that way with how the chapters was written but the Skull guy never took off the mask. I feel Rodo has used some devil fruit or hypnosis styled power to cause the problems. Rodo may have used such a power to change the personality of the Skull guy and loki. We end up finding out Rodo is way more powerful than we original thought and is the true enemy.
Either Loki or Rodo will be the bad giant example for Usopp. Since Oda already introduced cannibalism to Elbaf with Big Mom, i wonder if that is one of the plot points. The giants know about that so if king Harald did have the devil fruit maybe Loki aquired the fruit that way. Also Hajrudin is most likely a bastard child since Loki is refered to the official child. So it makes sense why they skipped Hajrudin.
I haven't read in a bit, but I dig the theory crafting. Is it stated that the Loki character is Loki or did they introduce themselves as Loki? Are we sure we're interacting with THE Loki?
What if Rodo actually killed the king and right before his death, the king passed down his devil fruit to Loki and somehow Rodo framed Loki for the kings death.
what is Loki and Luffy are the 2 Soverns that will meet..."
Joy girl, please get a plant light for that fiddle leaf fig she's starving worse than zoro ): 🎉
I think Loki's fruit is a smile fruit that cp9 swapped after injurying loki's dad. loki kills his dad to give him and warrior's death. the smile fruit has no powers and is just crazy thinking he is nikka because of always laughing. I think he has some crazy Haki hence it need the whole country to help tie him down. Hajrudin going to dressrosa is to get ace's fruit is to show the people that he is the true heir to the throne and is the sun god compared to loki
Low-key only wanted to get with Charlotte so that he could use Big mom’s power and influence
Why reject Chiffon then?
Norse pagan here:
There is some conflict on what Baldr really was. Most of our information about the Norse gods come from Christian second hand accounts and its believed they changed baldr to be more jesus like in his death and life. In reality from other sources and small mentions in different stories Baldr could have been closer to a war god.
But its possible Oda also didnt know this so its fair either way
I thi k people really want him to be this really cool villain, but I do agree there is way more to him. It wouldn't surprise me if the real Loki is closer to the silhouette we originally saw and this ultra cool Loki is an illusion.
what if Loki defeated his father by trickery and that is why he is considered a shame.
You really deserve 100k subscribers, even more. However, in my opinion, in such videos you need to add more pictures and video.
I think that Prince Loki has a condition like Cavendish giving him other personalities
I don’t remember any Norse gods with DID, but if I had to pick one who might have this condition, it would be Loki.
One of you has said this every arc since dressrosa. Stfu....
im so excited for luffy to free loki literally next chapter lol, no but seriously a lot of very good points in this video, i dont think loki will be completely redeemed but i do think we'll come to understand why he killed his father the king
Vikings committing patricide is a part of theie tradition
Loki is the shame of Elbaph BECAUSE he got turned down by Lola
0 rizz Prince
LOKI 4 NAKAMAAAAAAA
PS after watching the video: Oh Loki definitely had to kill harald for the fruit. Its passed down the royal bloodline, so obviously the king of elbaf would have eaten the fruit as he became king. So to get that fruit, Loki HAD TO kill the king, otherwise it wouldnt be in circulation to be eaten in the first place.
Im betting his father was a player with many womans , Loki mother is from some strange race considered cursed by giants , either the race is strange or is their enemy or is their weakness
Ill go with ancien giants
The reason he killed his father probably has a logic reason and his father wanted it or it was revenge related to his mother
Oda has a strange habit to kill mothers , now im even starting to think the One Piece is related to it lol
Dang she was right about it being 6-10 ago
LOKI HAS BONNEY ORIGINAL DEVIL FRUIT (REMEMBER SHE NEVER ATE A DEVIL FRUIT)
Loki was born on the day big mom fuked elbaph so I think the giants see him as a blight then someone can be manipulating him like doffy
RODO SEEM TO SEE HUMANS AS INFERIOR TO GIANTS BUT LOKI WANTED TO MARRY A HUMAN
Gerde compares Road to Loki because she finds him that disgusting and dishonorable with how he treats his opponents in battle. Underhanded sabotage and guerilla warfare, as opposed to ‘honorable combat’ tactics. Buggy the Clown, Caesar Clown, and Captain Kuro would be “disgusting creeps” of a similar caliber I believe.
From how you are citing the rough, not respectful, language used around Hajrudin, I am thinking it is more a “elder warriors addressing their younger comrades” thing. Or else, it may be that Hajrudin, despite being older than Loki, is an illegitimate child of the Elbaph royals. Am I the only one getting a “Marvel’s Thor and Loki” dynamic from JoyGirl’s script concerning the two princes?
12:30 cursed and accursed don't mean the same thing
maybe Road is a long-lost prince having had a baby swap at a birth
The way you say Hajrudin....🙂🥰🤭
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I like this theory
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Black beard will free Loki and recruit him. Left field theory 😂 lol
With all of these theories I think everybody forgetting what this arc is made for; loki being strong or Yonko level enemy is funny as hell. There is no build-up , no scenario importance and if he is that strong it become chrcters like katakuri or even Kaido weak. Its literally stupid . Oda never do it. Both Loki and Road are just tricksters. They are deceivers and thats why they are "shame" Iam betting killing his father is not even the problem . We are talking about "land of the never ending war" Iam betting he kill his father with a Dirty trick and thats the only problem which cause shame* because Loki is not a real warrior and he is weak. All his words are bluff. He try to show himself strong. Why? Because this ark is for Ussop(!) Remember that people😅 loki is rival of Ussop! This ark Ussop gonna learn he can never be "strong warrior of the sea" if he keep telling lies and try to run away from strong enemies. Even from chapter 1 Oda spoil this idea with the cat/Leon.
This is kind of stupid. Giants are the strongest race according to Oda. It took all their forces just to takedown Loki. Elbaf isn’t a WG sanctioned member state with strong connections to other pirates , so it makes perfect sense they have powerful forces. Big Mom said if she married into Elbaf she would be Pirate King. You are just relying on dumb power-scaler logic. One powerful guy existing doesn’t harm others power or antagonism at all. This is a location not directly connected to the greater events we knew of. The world being bigger than we think is a consistent notion in OP. I swear if it wasn’t for power scaling half the gripes in shounen would disappear.
@acetofresh1 No Iam relying on what we have until this point. Giants normaly stronger thn other races but not that much(!) We see that again and again in the story. Big mom literally oblitrate their village when she was a kid(!) Whitebeard pirates literaly defeating special forces of giants at marinefort(plus dont forget they were high rank Marines) . Loki is brother to Hayrudin and Luffy Beats Hayrudin with just 1 punch (also dont forget it was before the wano training). Morover we dont know what "all their forces" mean. İs it reference to power??? Or is it reference to Loki has so much tricks/illusions/ traps in his sleeve so its hard to figureout where is he or what he turned into?? For me that sentence make my theory stronger. I believe loki just has deceiving powers so Ussop need to unlock god level obsrvation haki for defeating hım.
Luffy the true Loki?
Starting this theroy off with a lot of what ifs and mental gymnastics! ya ima skip this one
Pretty obvious that Loki didn’t kill his pop and that’s there’s some other evil stuff going on here. Typical one piece fare.
llol Hydrogen
If Loki is a hero it'll be just like the MCU version. Boring.
Your speculations, assumptions and theories sounds way out of the place without any proper base to them and it's kind of uninteresting.😅
Actually too much of an assumption.😂
Only a woman could come up with these theories.
Boooooooring. Don't recommend channel
loki will be freed and will join the straw hats by bringing about "ragnarok" which is the end of the KNOWN world, that being the monarchy that the WG brought about, and then the rebirth of the new fully free world of Nika
called it
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