The Risky Game of Replacing Beloved Theme Park Rides
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- When it comes to amusement parks, change is inevitable. Universal Studios Orlando and Walt Disney World often face this challenge head-on. Case in point, Splash Mountain becoming Tiana's Bayou Adventure. Yet, every change comes with a risk. Take, for instance, the beloved Jaws ride. Once a staple of Universal Studios Florida, the iconic ride was retired to make way for the wizarding world of Harry Potter. Diagon Alley now stands where Jaws once ruled. While the transformation brought new life to the park, it left fans of the Jaws ride longing for the past.
Not far away, Walt Disney World in Orlando also grapples with the balance between nostalgia and novelty. Splash Mountain, a cherished classic, is undergoing a transformation into Tiana's Bayou Adventure. This shift aims to infuse new life into the Magic Kingdom, but the decision to replace Splash Mountain Disney World has been met with mixed reactions. Fans of the original ride reminisce about its unique charm, even as they look forward to the new adventure awaiting them. Disney's other parks, including Animal Kingdom, EPCOT, and Disney Hollywood Studios, also face similar challenges. Each change is a gamble, hoping to capture the magic that made Disneyland a global phenomenon while keeping the experience fresh for new generations. Meanwhile, Universal’s latest venture, Epic Universe Orlando, promises to push the boundaries of theme park innovation. And across the country, Universal Studios Hollywood mirrors these changes, continually updating its offerings to compete with the likes of Cedar Point. Cedar Point, home to the legendary Top Thrill Dragster, is undergoing its own transformation, reimagining the ride as Top Thrill 2. This revamp aims to thrill guests in new ways while paying homage to its predecessor.
In the end, the risky game of replacing beloved theme park rides is a delicate dance. As Universal Orlando, Disney World, and other parks like Cedar Point navigate these waters, they must balance the desire for innovation with the need to preserve the magic that has made them icons in the world of theme parks. Each decision shapes the future of these enchanted lands, ensuring that the spirit of adventure lives on for generations to come.
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In my opinion, the most egregious replacement was universal replacing the earthquake ride system with fast and the furious
AND BEETLEJUICE!!! Multiple attractions for a terrible ride 💀
Lmao no way
Disaster was a good ride but when your final day only garnered 10 minutes
Then nobody really cared
Beetlejuice was an exception
But Supercharged is fine
But Twister to Fallon??? Blasphemy
I can agree with that.
I went to Universal studios Florida for the first time this year and one if the worst rides was the fast and furious ride....
I honestly forgot Diagon Alley replaced Jaws. I guess not going cheap and reusing the ride helps. I’ll never forget what Mickeys railway replaced
Honestly that Mickey ride kinda sucks. Especially since it came out after rise of the resistance.
When I was a kid my sister I cried on that ride (gunshots), that’s probably why they replaced it tbh
I think it was more so the many technical issues that jaws was facing, if they remade the ride now then it would be smooth as butter@LemeAndCat
@@notthespaghetti1997 nah I’m talking about what Mickey’s Railway replaced
I never had the opportunity to go on the great movie ride...
But I went to Disney World for the first time this year and I loved Mickeys runaway railroad. I thought it was one of the best rides in Hollywood studios.
The best replacement failure was when Disney tried to reimagine Journey into Imagination in 1998, without Figment, only for guests to complain so rabidly that Disney had to put Figment back into the ride.
I was waiting for this to be mentioned 😂
The funny thing is, I still think Journey Into Imagination With Figment is one of the best examples of a ride replacement failure. Sure, what's there is *better* than what preceded it, but it still thoroughly pales in comparison to what was there to begin with. The ride track is already shortened so it has less to work with by default, and like the ride is *serviceable* but doesn't really do anything to inspire imagination and general consensus is that it's an okay ride but most people wouldn't put it on their must-ride list. And I think what really drives it home is that the arts scene of the original ride -- literally one room of it -- has more to look at and see than the entirety of the current ride, which is full of a bunch of blank unused space. I guess I'd have been a little more forgiving of it had it been a temporary fix to the poorly received second ride like it was supposed to be, but it's now outlived both predecessors combined.
Before any of you start accusing me of being blinded by nostalgia -- I never went on the original ride. Even if I had, I would have been way too young to remember it because it closed when I was only three. I only know of it from ride-through videos and I absolutely adore it, and I genuinely think it was a huge mistake to close it.
hoping this happens with Splash Mountain (even if it obviously won't sadly)
@@MrEightThreeOneI experienced the original many times. It’s not just nostalgia talking. The original was far superior to either version that replaced it. It’s not even debatable. It’s arguably the biggest mistake in Disney history until the closure of Splash Mountain.
@@josephbrown9685 Oh yeah, and I was backing my point up by saying I have zero nostalgia for the original -- believe me when I say I'm so envious of people like you who got to experience it. My serious condolences to you if you ever had to witness the atrocity that was the second version, haha.
As far as Splash goes, while I personally feel closing it was a mistake (believe me, I have a lot I could say about Disney replacing rides when they so desperately need more capacity right now), I don't know if I would put those two decisions on the same level. At least when Splash was closed, they had the budget and plans to replace it with something that could match it (whether the end product did or not is a matter of opinion, but you can't deny the animatronics they made for it are really impressive). JII was replaced with something that was done on a really lousy budget thanks to Kodak struggling at the time -- the follow-up being inferior was virtually a foregone conclusion.
“Time heals all wounds…except for the most recent example that I’m still not over. That wound will NEVER HEAL”
As my mom always says, “you can’t please everyone.”
Yes but in this case everyone wants to keep the ride and are giving you money and the people that don't want to keep the ride don't want to give you money either way.
if Splash Mountain somehow did burn down that would be very ironic
at that point would definitely assume it was one purpose and not an accident
They did it with the Tiki Room under new management
I mean, apparently they've had to close Tiana's down because things caught fire and the alarms went off... so that may just be current WDI incompetence.
What!? No! Not “burn down”! That’s a bad thing!
People tried to gaslight when they closed Splash Mountain, that it was only loved out of nostalgia, while I rode it for the first time in 2019 and it was still my favorite ride in Magic Kingdom.
Same here. In 2017, when I was a stupid 12 year old, I had no clue of the rides existence until I visited the park with my family. While I wanted to go on Big Thunder Mountain, everyone else want to do Spalsh Maintain, to say the least, I wasn't happy with that. I just saw it was some water ride, those were my thoughts until I actually rode it. Wow. What a ride it was. The music, the characters, the colourful cartoony set pieces, the scary music up the final drop, I fell in love with it, and to this day its still the best water rides and Dark rides I've ever been on.
Sadly this was the only time I ever rode it, so when the retheme was announced, it was disheartening, especially finally seeing the final product on RUclips.
Sometimes, there's noting wrong with keeping old attractions if both the adults who rode them when it was new and kids of today love them too.
Undeniably it was a great ride, anyone who tried to claim otherwise would be lying or never rode it. It’s a shame it was tied to its source material at all and not an independent concept.
@@colinwalker6804Even then, I believe it's source material has been wrongful distorted over the years, and the ride was based on the animated parts, which were considered the least controversial parts of the film
It was objectively the best ride at the park, and a top 5 at the Resort.
Honestly the Splash Mountain decision was just egregious. People decided they wanted to be offended for a month on Twitter and Disney quickly made the announcement of it's closure to please those people. If they just waited a few months, all the "controversy" would've died down and no one would've cared anymore.
Tianas Bayou adventure has refrences to salt mines in its queue something what is offensive and disgusting
Dueling Dragons was a masterpiece, ruined by idiots that couldn't just ride the damn ride and instead had to use it as an instrument to harm others. Thanks to them, one of the greatest rollercoasters ever built had to get scrapped.
We’re getting a much better version of Dueling Dragons with Stardust Racers at Epic Universe. That will be way better than the Dueling Dragons! Universal solved that problem.
@@blackellegirl Remember it was originally called Starfall racers? Did you know?
@@Robbie-pc1dl yes, I knew that. Another influencer that only covers the Epic Universe predicted the name years ago. They had to change the name for legal reasons.
You can always count on a few idiots ruining something precious for everyone.
I still think about how I was lucky enough to ride jaws back in the day I was like 8 though and i wish I could remember it in more detail but still a closing that I will be upset about forever
I've heard that the Jaws ride is still open in Japan's universal (so its not completely gone)
Yeah I went on it, it was dope
Revenge of the Mummy has to be one of the best ride replacements
Revenge Of The Mummy is good but Kongfrontation was far superior in my opinion. I also think for a attraction at the level of Kongfrontation deserved more than just 12 years of operation, although I do get that operating 2 mammoth rides like Kongfrontation, Jaws Ride & a then recently opened Island of Adventures must have been very expensive to operate it all. I luckily live only 4 hours away & was able to experience Kongfrontation many times.
Splash really fell into the most unfortunate situation possible. You know... at the VERY LEAST, I wish Disney wasn't so disrespectful in trying to act like it never happened. No matter whether you think it was correct or not to replace it, it feels IMMENSELY disrespectful to the many talents who worked on that ride and to it's source material (the Br'er Rabbit folk tales, not the movie itself) to just toss it to the side and act like it never existed... it just kinda feels shady of them honestly
Disney did the same with the original movie, so why would you expect for the ride to be any different? There are no "sacred cows" when it comes to attractions at WDW; history shows that (e.g., Mr. Toad, Snow White - opening day attractions or 20000 Leagues Under the Sea opening same month as the park).
The best part is that they said they closed Splash Mountain because its racially insensitive, but they don't want to put Dr Facilier into the new ride cuz cant have a black man in Disney!
Tony Baxter came back just to leave again after seeing the mess Tiana was 😂
@@weebcraft6829
1. The story of the attraction happens after that of the original movie, which speaks to Dr. Facilier's absence. 2. You may want to consider that maybe Disney did not want to come across as being religiously insensitive to practioners of "Voodoo"/formally known as Vodun. With so much inclusion of New Orleans culture into the ride and the strong historical ties that it has to that spiritual practice, it just "would not be a good look".
@@Zergei Baxter was brought back to serve as a special consultant on the attraction. Disney does that from time to time, just like they recently brought back Joe Rhode (Animal/Kingdom/Pandora) to lecture at Imagineering headquarters.
I’ll never get over the closure of The Great Movie Ride and the Backlot.
The closure of Splash Mountain was one of the biggest war crimes in theme park history and I stand by that.
If it was a lose-lose situation, they should have kept it the way it was and saved money.
@@behindthescenesphotos5133 jt was deemed racist. It did not butcher me but
Although I don't think the change was by any means actually needed, I beg to differ from your opinion. I was very skeptical about TBA before it opening, but after watching POVs and different reviews and takes on the experience, I came to the conclusion that it might be just as fun as Splash Mountain, just in a different way (which you may miss more than me). But imo, if they added that Mad Doctor magician as a villain to create suspense around the drop, TBA would be objectively the better attraction. As it is, I think it's more a matter of opinion. It delivered on the ambiance and animatronics (quality, although the quantity isn't as low as I thought it would be), but lacked more kinetic energy and a better storyline around the drop
If it were just one version, it’d be easier to get over, but no, they closed both US versions AND the characters can’t have anything anymore to top it off.
@@katef96 it’s in Tokyo. Also because well there closing for the same reason unlike something like the tower of terror.
Splash was a reason why my family and I loved going there and now that its gone there isnt a reason to go, with how terrible disney treated splash, its music, and its characters I honestly just hate the company forevor now.
No ride replacement has been against the throat of a former attraction and I hate that tokyo's the only one who had to defend against disney when it came to splash.
And with how crappy the retheme came I just hate disney even more with just how cheap they rethemed it and gave me all the right reasons to believe my scepticism when it came to this retheme, that it was going to be bad and its just one of the worst rethemes ever.
Like why couldnt they retheme one splash and leave the other alone here in the states? It felt like such a punch in the gut knowing there isnt going to be a splash mountain here in the states.
Space mountain from the earth to the moon has the worst rethemes
Replacing Splash Mountain with Tiana's Bayou Disaster will go down as one of the worst decisions in Disney history. Of course, Bob Iger is the worst CEO in Disney history. Nobody except some very vocal weirdos on Twitter wanted it to be replaced. Why anyone would listen them is beyond me. They never support the things they claim they want. But these are the people modern Disney panders to constantly. I just don't get it.
Except there is no Tiana and Disney is lying. Splash Mountain is alive and well in the US and I'll be enjoying it at WDW for the 75th in 2046 and at Disneyland for its centennial in 2055. And after I take over Disney and usher in the Make Disney Great Again era, undoing the entire Iger era, the Twitter crowd will be forbidden to visit the parks which will be treated like private clubs.
Attraction Ideas: "just 'accidently' set it on fire", dude taking from Europa Park's playbook
@@history_leisure Well if you’re talking about the fire in 2018-2019 ish fire in Europa park, they did a remaster of that ride right after it burnt, Sure it would of happened eventually anyways, but the fire and accident helpt.
@@Robbie-pc1dl I’ve ridden, keep tech in good shape
@@Robbie-pc1dl their powered coaster caught fire last year and reopened around Easter, fitting it more with the new “Fina and Jomis” IP. I guess that park has their Princess now
Disney literally considered closing thunder mountain. Nothing is safe
Especially inside woketard Disney. They are eventually gonna get rid of all of their popular rides, because the rides weren't woke enough....
You remake a movie? The original movie still exists.
You remake a video game? The original still exists.
You redo a theme park ride? Well… the old one is just gone now.
The idea of literally bringing back defunct beloved rides has always been a great unused concept personally, and Universal have a perfect opportunity to test it out with Epic Universe. A land dedicated to bringing back old rides like Jaws, Earthquake, Kongfrontation, and Back to The Future The Ride, and i think it would be a great way to prove on which ride is loved from nostalgia, and what ride is still loved by everyone young and old. Im only 19 and never got to ride any of them, but id love to have the opportunity to ride Unviersals old rides, Especially Kongfrontation and Back To The Future. They look so cool and full of character! The area could be seen as an apology letter to the fans while still making exciting attractions for average park goers.
Universal, please make it happen!
That's such a cool idea 🤩
My dream is to go on 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, even though it closed long before I was born (by 5 years).
I know this would be much lower of a possibility, and still wouldn't be as good as the real thing, but I wish they could create a 4D coaster that could recreate the rides with VR head set and stuff (+wind,noise,etc), so people could still experience them in some way.
As much as I would love to see it happen. I doubt it will happen right now, especially not in Epic Universe. But if it had to happen, I would say probably make a fifth park and call it "Retroversal" and get all the old rides that are loved by many and see how it does.
They should low-key do that in their Universal Studios park and make a Universal Classic’s Lot area by Men in Black that’ll stick with the studios theme. Make an upgraded version of their old rides like Twister, Jaws and add a Back to the Future RollerCoaster. That would bring people to the Studios park too while the new park will be everyone’s 1st choice.
As a resident of Pittsburgh and I grew up with the local amusement park (Kennywood), this is something I hear every time. You get rid of an older and less popular ride (turnpike), people complain. You replace a popular ride (old mill), people complain. Even when it is replaced by something better or worse, people keep being blinded by nostalgia. There isn’t anything wrong with complaining about bad decisions, but some rides can’t stay forever.
I mean, yes, you're right, but when you're talking about ancient parks like Kennywood and Disneyland, some rides are actually historic and at least deserve to remain in operation. I feel there is some obligation there, not legally, but morally.
That said, if Disney touches Matterhorn, or Kennywood touches Jackrabbit or Thunderbolt I will riot.
@@aMondayMorning the only problem is, Kennywood suffers a similar situation to Universal. The park is set in the middle of a residential area. So, they can’t expand at all and they lack any of the modern park facilities (resorts, private bus ways, etc.) So, they are stuck with questioning which is more important: a ride that has major history, but barely anyone goes on or a modern attraction to get more people to come to the park. In the case of Turnpike, I never seen anyone in line for it. So, it looked more like rush hour the ride. That is why it made sense to remove it to put the most modern rollover coaster for the time. I will say, I doubt they would get rid of any of their wooden roller coasters. You know what happened with the phantom.
Man the fact we had such a beloved splash mountain Ride just to get sadly a “Disney jr” they really had potential with Princess and the frog but they way they went about it story and creative wise just felt underwhelming which is not something you want when replacing a ride like splash. Yes there was controversy around voodoo and such so they were a bit limited but still hope that in the future they can improve on it over time.
The problem with splash is that nobody that actually went to the parks complained it was just a loud group online. The ride was always popular so there was no reason to replace
As usual, the wokies are very vocal online, but then don't support the things they want. The purple-haired, septum ring having weirdos dwelling their parents' basements don't have the financial means to support the things they say they want. They just like to destroy everything that is good. That is the goal of the woke mind virus. It's destroying everything we love one thing at a time. Disney has one of the worst infections and there is no vaccine for that.
I think you know the reason it was replaced. I’m not even aware of any online pressure on Disney to refurb Splash - and there’s very good evidence that the retheme was in the works long before Disney made the announcement, and before the events of 2020.
The ride itself was great, its source material was not. Having watched its source material, the ride basically contains only the most sanitized, ambiguous, and safe elements of that film.
I love Splash Mountain, it was a family favorite ride that 3 generations of my family made a point to ride every time we went to the parks, but it was weird once you knew what it came from and what the original story was supposed to be about. (Hint: The message is basically telling black people to stay on their farms or risk getting lynched) and given that undercurrent I definitely don’t blame Disney for wanting to change it.
I just think they went about it in the worst way possible, which generally their PR lately has been generally terrible. Instead of saying “we are getting rid of splash mountain” they should have said “we are re-theming splash mountain” and renamed it Tiana’s Splash Mountain or something. Presentation is everything and even if the end product was exactly the same as what we’ve gotten, I think more people would be willing to accept it if it was seen as an evolution of splash mountain rather than a replacement.
@shilohl.921 they stayed they started the retheme back in 2019
@@shilohl.921 Disney imagineering always makes plans that they never think will happen, like they were planning to retheme space mountain to the lightyear movie but that never happened. I’m sure the retheme was something they threw out there but I doubt it would have ever happened before 2020. Look at that concept art and you’ll see that the retheme all that well thought out since the outside of the ride was vastly different than what we got and even the usage of Tiana in her princess dress made it seem like it would be based on the movie
The ride I was most upset that closed was Kings Dominion's Volcano simply because I never got to ride it at all :(
Every time I got to the park, it was closed and then I saw the remains and was devastated.
It was great as someone who got to ride it twice, one time with the pyrotechnics working. I still don’t feel like they’ve made a worthy replacement and have since moved over to Bush Gardens Williamsburg for a better park experience.
I was just looking for something to watch on RUclips, thanks for choosing for me 👍😂
Ok, why can’t universal dedicate one of the two theaters in Simpson Ride to back to the future? Also if Disney didn’t own it Percy Jackson should go in Lost Continent, they already know how people like books, and it’s already themed.
That would have been one of the best themed lands ever if they brought Percy Jackson.
Also if they dedicated one theater for each ride, the simpsons line would always say 5 minutes.
@@liambobson48 why would it stay 5 minutes? It’s two theaters total they are huge so everyone can see the same
You and that guy from poseidon entertainment should start a podcast 🙋🏻♀️
Not after Poseidon's own Splash video
@@pepsiaddictgamingwhat did he say that was wrong? do you guys dislike him now just cause he likes Tiana’s lol
@@pepsiaddictgaming💀💀💀
@@neonthewiz2532 He glazed Tianas bayou adventure, calling it superior to splash and basically said that the closing of splash mountain was justified because it was le racist and anyone who thought splash mountain should have stayed open was also racist.
@@neonthewiz2532i dont know about everyone else but for me its the fact he quite literally referred to people on the side of 'save splash mountain' as a hate group, on multiple occassions, something about that just rubbed me the wrong way
Well, at least splash Mountain is still in Tokyo. So it’s not gone forever
It's always sad when an attraction that was good closes, even if the decision was objectively the correct one like cases of Jaws and Dueling Dragons. Where I think Disney is dropping the ball is in the times it reuses the same layout as an old attraction for newer attractions without taking into account how the story and layout would actually go together. Frozen Ever After and Tiana's Bayou Adventure are the 2 big offenders with their drops no longer making sense in the context of the rides' story. Tiana especially has a story that clashes with the layout instead of being enhanced by it since it never does anything to build up to the big drop like Splash Mountain did so well. The ride would be better without that big drop since the story and layout would no longer be so at odds. They didn't use a story that complemented the 'log flume with big ending drop' layout, but went with a story that was only suited for a 'no tension or threat' boat ride like Navi River Journey or It's a Small World. The drop is now like having a 50-foot drop added to the end of It's a Small World for no reason instead of the climax of the ride.
Though nothing will ever be as bad as Fast and Furious Supercharged replacing not 1 but 2 attractions that were better.
I’ve read some theorizing that the reason Tiana’s storyline has no tension is because it’s designed as a “princess” ride first and foremost, and as someone who spent her childhood consuming “girl” media, I can kinda see it. Commercial media aimed at girls like the Disney Princess brand tends to produce stories that are notoriously free of any kind of conflict, and the story of this ride would fit right into the pages of Disney Princess magazine. It’s a “we gotta prepare for the big party” story, which is a super common archetype in fluffy girl media.
The issue, of course, cones when this kind of storyline is superimposed onto a thrill ride with a big drop. I honestly worry that this ride is going to traumatize a lot of little girls who love Tiana and thought they were on a harmless dark ride right until they get subjected to a big drop out of nowhere.
I want a 50 foot drop added to It's a Small World, with no buildup, because that'd be hilarious.
I agree on the whole splash mountain thing. I mean I loved that ride even if I went on it once. It gave me my love for water rides. But they really let it go to crap. It was also very hard to take care of. You wanna be someone who barely gets paid to try to take care of that nightmare. I love animatronics but I wouldn't wanna have to fix them daily... especially the Splash mountain ones. They were covered in nasty slimy stuff and probably mold too. I think we should appreciate how long that ride lasted. And hey. It's still in Japan. I actually think Tokyo Disney land's splash mountain is the best. Like that one scene where Brer Fox is about to trap brer rabbit looks CRAZY. HE LOOKS REAL. I was so shocked lol
Edit: YOU JOKING ABOUT THE KING KONG ANIMATRONIC IS CRACKING ME UP LOL. that was my BABY 😭 one of my fav animatronics ever
Tokyo Disneyland has (aside from like a few extra critters) the exact same animatronics that Disney World has. They even opened a day earlier than in Orlando! It really just seems to come down to how much time and money they put into their stuff in Tokyo compared to here unfortunately...
Remember the hopping Br'er Rabbit that barely ever worked? He's consistently delighting guests in Tokyo. Matted and wet fur? Not in Tokyo.
It's a shame we don't get the same care here, especially recently. Attraction downtime in every park is abysmal 😔
@@thegovialjiraffe FR! They are so loved in Tokyo Disney and so well taken care of!! I've seen tons of videos of the walkaround characters having huge crowds around them and some of the stuff they do with the characters is so cute!
Disney gaslight you guys to think they were getting bad because they were neglecting them, they have all the money in the world but they knew if they let Splash Mountain rot, people like you can assume it was "justified" to remove them.
Also news flash: not everyone can afford to go to Japan, it's one thing to remove one, but to get ride of both is a big loss for us. Most people can't afford to go sadly, myself included.
@@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois oh it's you. I know people can't afford to go I CAN'T afford to go lmao. But I still appreciate that we even have a version of Splash still out there. Also I wasn't really paying attention to the whole ride getting closed anyway. I remember hearing about and being saddened for a little bit but I moved on because I have a life. I hate Disney and my recent visit made me dislike the park in Florida(i was forced to go) which has also peaked my interest in how Disney is running things funny enough. But being honest with you. Disney is falling. Some of the stocks are falling. Most of their movies that they are making now are trash and are making them loose money. If you think they are gonna spend tons of money on ONE old ride you are crazy lol. Also saying that it wasn't badly maintained in the US is weird when you can see the characters looking the completely wrong way/shaking so bad it looks like they are about to fall in the water and there is literally video evidence of the Log Flumes SINKING into the water so bad that people had to jump out before they went with it. I mean the new animatronics are struggling too lol. It could just be the whole ride itself which is sad. But Don't get me wrong. I'm not against you. I would of loved to have splash mountain stay. I'm more mad about how they treated the old animatronics.
@@thegovialjiraffeTokyo has oriental land company backing, it’s basically the same as one of the American rides getting a sponsorship, which means the rides have way bigger budgets for maintenance, especially since the staff have more respect because of work culture there. Also outside of the star animatronics all of Disneyland’s animatronics would be hitting 50 years old, which is probably a nightmare to maintain.
1-upping is hard yet not impossible. Look at Spookslot at Efteling, iconic and historic attraction. Now its replacement feels like the sequal, and takes you from a spectator to a participant.
The ending 🤣🤣🤣
Never even rode great movie ride and it still breaks my heart it's gone
I think an issue is how a change may impact the overall feel of a park area...or even the entire park! Like, of the original EPCOT Center attractions the Energy pavilion was probably the one that aged the worst, and the Guardians coaster is a very fun ride system. Still, it has a bit of a "does this belong at EPCOT?" vibe going that effects the feel of the area it's in, the kind of thing you might only pick up on subconsiously. Maybe a coaster based on the concept of the Big Bang and the creation of energy would feel different, but just "let's glide around with these movie characters" feels very different.
For me, I'm one of those "tired of all the IPs in the park" types; Guardians is a strong ride, for sure, but its presence is a reminder that *this* is the direction Disney's taking and that original attractions aren't likely on the docket any time soon, and it has an effect on how I interact with the park as a whole.
ETA: Ooh, also have to point out - apparently, "Horizons was built on a sinkhole and was going to fall in" is not really accurate! The ride had definitely stopped getting care, however, when GE's sponsorship lapsed and Disney let the ride fall into only seasonal usage. Then HP came along and was willing to sponsor Mission: Space.
Babe wake up again, Attraction Ideas uploaded AGAIN
I FEEL THE SAME WAYYYY
@@Welder19 bro this channel is fire frfr
i click on his videos as soon as i see them
Among Us?
Hoping you’ll bring up the Simpsons ride and how it replaced BTTF, but I bet history would repeat itself in 2028
What? Simpson gets replaced with Back to The Future the ride 2.0? Count me in!!
@@louiswright8282 rumor has it Simpson's will be replaced with Pokemon
@@alexnight4144in both us parks?
Horizons was sinking into the ground? I didn’t know about that.
Technically not ALL of it, but there were sinkholes discovered and they were going to grow. Someone finding out about this is one reason that ride got SO MUCH documentation before it closed.
I would have loved to ride Jaws but I never got to. Thus, I will never read a Harry Potter book and I will only visit the Harry Potter lands for the coaster credits. Speaking of, great video! As a coaster enthusiast, all this RMC and TT2 talk was music to my ears.
Getting rid of splash mountain is like getting rid of haunted mansion, Space Mountain or pirates of the Caribbean. You just don’t do that
Those are classic attractions, splash mountain isn’t
@@LeonCenteno-yf2ns Yes it is dumb dumb
@@fatherlucid4995nah splash mountain is the replacement for América Sings, haunted mansion and pirates where made by Walt himself, so they where in the park since day 1 I believe, so its really not the same bro calm down
@@fatherlucid4995nah splash mountain is the replacement of América Sings meanwhile haunted mansion and pirates are made by Walt himself, those rides where in the park since day 1 i believe. So its not the same thing bro
@@LeonCenteno-yf2nsYes it was. And quite frankly, at the Magic Kingdom, it was a much better attraction compared to those three.
Not only was the Splash Mountain change unneccessary but they also cheaped out in the change. Every penny was pinched every corner was cut.
I believe that with them changing Splash, it was going to get WAY more hate than if they've just kept it the way it was. Disney needed to make a slam dunk with this retheme, but it seemed like they didn't do that, made people mad, and it will go down imo as one of their worst rethemes for a ride. No matter what, this will be Disney's (even more now) most controversial ride in their parks.
Ultimately they are the right decisions to make because as much as Im sad to see Jaws go, I hadn’t been to the park in 10 years before they took it down and I wasn’t going back just for Jaws again.
All Disney had to do about the Splash Mountain nontroversey was literally say NOTHING!
None of what happened with Splash Mountain had to happen, it was ALL Disney's doing, they WANTED that, and now they're paying the price.
Anyway
They caused controversy when they changed Splash Mountain.
I think the only really untouchable ride at Magic Kingdom is Carousel of Progress because it literally is Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress.
Test track was the best ride at Disney its fun plus interactive I hope they make a good remake
Splash Mountain is an interesting one because I do understand why they felt the need to take immediate action, and Tianna getting her own ride is great, but the irony is that they made such a quick, rash decision that by the time the new version opened, not only did the public opinion about the way we treat old properties change to the point that people weren't really upset about Splash anymore, but the new ride is also problematic so....
I disagree that Splash Mtn had an equal amount of people wanting to get rid of the ride to the people wanting to keep the ride. The people wanting Disney to keep Splash Mtn greatly outnumbered any woke warriors wanting to change the ride. Bottomline. Disney as a company when woke, and they will pay the price with a subpar replacement that pales in comparison to Splash Mtn
I did love Splash Mountain and still do. What was so upsetting was that replacement was so bad. If your going to replace a ride it needs to be better then what came before it.
I just have to think this entire video came about due to the final shower thought 😂. Love it, honestly brilliant
They definitely should Bring a jaws attraction to the parks again even if it’s different , epic universe missed out on a trick there
About Splash montin for Disney the desition was easy.... Keep the ride and just maintain it... why? That is what the vast majority of park goers wanted and the remake is what twitter wanted.
*decision? Is that what you meant?
12:09 Let's just say those fans diehard love for Universal died after Jaws shut down and it led them to say "It tore me apart, but I learned an important lesson. You can't count on anyone. Especially your heroes." (Incredibles joke btw.)
7:08 yea no there is a land that is arguable better. One of the best simulator rides in the world, one of the most beloved restaurants in the world, and incredible theming in the day and night.
Except they would have had to burn down 2 Splash Mountains “accidentally.” Now we’re just left with hoping that Bayou Adventure burns down…..twice lol.
Closing Twister for Jimmy Fallon's Race Through New York was the greatest tragedy for ride replacements
Closing Poseidon's Fury a year after refurbishing it and only giving a few months notice it was closing forever was also terrible.
My parents’ friend group was part of the Save Mr. Toad movement, as a kid I actually went to a couple of the ‘Toad-Ins’ they did; I don’t know if they still have the shirts somewhere though
Ya lost me at Ratatouille being a "stinker". That ride is amazing both thematically and technically.
as someone who has never been on splash mountain so has no nostalgic bias, after watching ride POVs back to back tianas is an upgrade in like 80% of it, the end scene in splash is way better and the story in tianas is a total joke, but the equipment upgrade is real noticable. wouldve been a lot better if they just refurbished splash but DEI loving Iger is too politically correct and gave in to the mob
Refurbish or Retheme I believe were the two best options. I think selling it as a Re-theme would have been better than selling it as a replacement. Just doesn’t have as much sting in the tail as saying “They are closing and replacing splash mountain” to say “they are re-theming splash mountain”. The later implies the ride is still there, even if you got the same end product.
Also would have been nice to see them work in the Vodoo doctor into the rides plot, I think that would’ve been perfect to make for a more fun climax.
@@colinwalker6804 yeah them being scared of the voodoo aspect but still that being a big part of the story makes no sense. either lean into it fully or pick a different IP
I think replacing old rides could be improved. If the theme park company would prepare a nostalgic video of the ride. A run-through with multiple cameras, a clear soundtrack, and a brief history would preserve the ride.
The theme park could then sell the ride content on multiple platforms so that the experience would not be lost.
I think this would be a no-brainer. I recall back to the future ride video was available as extra content on one of the DVD releases. The fans get some of what they lost, and the theme park company makes a profit.
This could even become a VR experience.
I think the biggest issue with Magic Kingdom is that they have the room to build new attractions instead of replacing old ones. Splash Mountain and Tiana's can coexist because they have the space and it would increase occupancy for the park.
Splash Mountain forever
Yeah this seems to be happening left and right. Great video!
Loving the content
Not strictly true .. splash was amazing period .. no need for changes or improvements. The new ride is down more than it’s open , the water drained away also.. many peeps having to get off emergency evacs..
As someone who had really fond memories of Universal Studios Hollywood as a kid I struggle to reconcile what was lost with what was replaced. Apart of me probably just wants to feel how I felt when I was a kid. Maybe if I was a kid experiencing these new attractions I would feel differently but man Universal Studios Hollywood just doesn’t come close to how I felt about it back then. I think the ride I miss most was the E.T. Ride (insert Vince Mcmhaon dad what was the ET ride like meme). Now kids what made that ride special was the wait in line made it feel like you were walking through an actual forest. As a kid it wasn’t no walk in the park either it felt it took a while to get to your destination. And the ride itself was just special. I had no idea Kongfrontation burned down but with all due respect to Peter Jackson, Kongfrontation is still KING. Yeah there’s just a lot to miss. These rides even with all their ingenuity and modern technology do not impress me.
i was expecting a six flags cedar fair merger video 😭😭😭
samee
Ditto.
@@cecsouthflorida8739 technically he did it a couple of months ago on the death of 6 flags but I would love that video too
The problem with Splash Mountain's closure was that Disney made the ride political when it never was. It's not like they had an incredible new attraction planned that they didn't have any room for. It was replaced by a boring, clusterfxck thats main goal was to get all the check marks on a D/E/I checklist completed.
Getting rid of Twister for Jimmy Fallon was a big oof!
Splash Mountain created some really really bad blood between Disney and the fans/consumers. Not just because of what they did, but how they did it. And it is a stunning showpiece of the fact that Disney's current Imagineering, really really sucks. They insulted the fans and accused them of some really hateful things, things that would be legally actionable if directed at an individual, just as a matter of their normal current marketing. Love or hate Disney, but calling your consumers "Racists", "Sexists", "Misogynistic", "Homophobic" and whatever else, for EVERY ONE OF YOUR PRODUCT RELEASES FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS, is not a path to profit. I may be strange in that way. But "Don't Piss Off The People That Give You The Money" was one of those old Business 101 rules. And Splash Mountain is worse, because Tiana's whateverthefuq it's called, is a really horrible ride. It fails to tell an interesting story. It's Superstar Limo 2.0The entire ride story is a 2 year olds tea party without any flow, drama or tension. It sucks.
Almost like we need a fifth park to house new ideas so we don't have to close old rides and we can just have both versions.
Maelstrom was the ride that made me angriest when it was removed. I was 8 and saving for a Disney trip so I could ride it. Then they closed it and I was extremely disappointed.
For me the ride that I was so upset to see go was California Screamin’. That was my favorite coaster from 2013 to 2016 and I feel that even if you didn’t like the original ride, the incredicoaster is in no way a worthy replacement
California Screamin was literally just a bland looking rollercoaster ride. At least the Incredicoaster had some good decent theming and some cool effects to back it up.
If the ride had audio animatronics then I would agree with you but for me the theming feels very similar to six flag taking an existing coaster and theming it to a superhero. California Screamin’ also fit with the theme of California while it was a steel coaster and not a wooden one the imaginers made the supports look like they were for a wooden coaster. The ride also wouldn’t have been as good if it didn’t have an onboard soundtrack. Fortunately it did. Disney coaster like space mountain do a good job of telling a story through visuals not by onboard dialogue. It took my dad riding the incredicoaster five times before he finally understood the story. My point is Disney coasters are better when they show through visuals or through the way you’re moving as opposed to telling through dialogue. That’s why I think California Screamin was better than the incredicoaster.
@@acefist5502 i agree because even though california screamin was super plain it had still was a great background coaster to things like world of color and it does fit into the dca theme. incredicoaster was so cheaply made that it didnt contribute anything.
California Screamin will be coming back in the not too distant future due to Disney being trust busted and losing Pixar.
Disney can replace any attraction but if they replace Living with the Land... that's an act of war.
All Disney needs to do is reopen an old ride and they’ll be good
this includes all rides most rides are closed for a number of reasons this includes amusement parks and waterparks.
biggest reason MAITNENCE COSTS ITS HARD TO GET PARTS FOR THESE RIDES..
Something that didn't get a mention, replacing Terminator with Bourne. An epicly stupid decision in my opinion.
I always felt weird about this one, it was rather blatantly Universal dropping the old franchise for the new, but Bourne IS a hell of a showcase.
@@erikottosen6797 but to replace it with a just as dead franchise with a lesser following... I just don't understand
Waiting on the edge of my seat to see what happens when Disney inevitably replaces Small World
Haunted Mansion will be next on the list of ride's for them to ruin. They will remove a lot of scene they deem triggering, and they will add stupid nonsense into the ride that makes no sense like Hat Box Ghost taped into a corner in a place he shouldn't be.
Small World is not going anywhere and when I take over Disney and usher in the Make Disney Great Again era, I look forward to the boycotts by the pro-Iger crowd. I will cater only to the purists and make decisions by asking "What would Walt do?"
9:20 The actual reason for Top Thrill 2 closing prematurely has to do with the wheels. They’re having to manufacture new wheels that can better dissipate the heat generated. It’s similar to a problem that Test Track initially had where the tires wore out so fast they had to be replaced daily, so they switched to an improved tire design with a more resilient compound.
Dude you made the same point over and over using the same examples repeatedly. You talk about jaws, Mr toad, splash mountain. Then just a minute later you went over the same rides with the same points. Just be a little more concise and smart with your time
Nobody wanted Splash Mountain to close. Disney manufactured a controversy to justify what yhey knew would be an unpopular decision. It was only afyer THEY said it was 'problematic' and poisoned the well that there were any conversations about it.
I have real hate for Disney for closing Splash. That and a million other reasons, but mainly that.
Maybe you should grow up. Seriously nobody thought it was that good until it closed.
Having hate for company you’re doing one thing in many others that you don’t like it’s kind of stupid. And just like wait but it’s just kind of a dumb way to think
@@Mochichu-w6b simp harder for big corpo squeezing you dry.
Kind of surprised that The Harry Potter thing gets complaints despite how seriously detailed it is.
I think it’s important to also look at the cost of some of these rides (kind of how big corporations would do). Jaws: incredible ride system and animatronics. Also jaws incredibly expensive to run (sharks will naturally need maintenance and them being in water only makes it more expensive. Ride system will need work and again being in water makes it expensive. Gas to fuel the boats is expensive. And paying employees to be the skipper is expensive. )
Splash mountain: just want to say this first off, Disney ignored maintenance in the ending months of it being splash mountain. That will naturally make some aspects more expensive. Anyways, animatronics with fur, in or close to water will never really be good. It makes up keep of the figures more expensive. I’ve had friends who have been ride operators or maintenance employees for the ride and they said that anytime there was a problem they would fix it with duct tape (maybe not literally but like putting a bandaid on a cut that needs stitches). I heard that there were leaks and the animatronics would stop working and they would just remove them because they knew it would close soon. Also naturally projections are going to be cheaper than animatronics.
Anyways, at the end of the day projections will always be cheaper than animatronics (see what replaced great movie ride).
I think a very good example of how to do it good is at Efteling (Netherlands) at this moment. They demolished a beloved attraction from the year 1978 (Spookslot). I think the backlash at first was brutal , but the way of communication by the park and the details they hauled over to the new version. It will be incredible. This is and will not be the only example because the park has a lot of 'nostalgic' rides. (* Spookslot= old ride. Danse Macabre= New version)
Mr Toad's Wild Ride was mention on American Dad that ride is legendary
if they close the Disneyland one i may never go again
It was Toy Story Land that replaced Backlot not Galaxy's Edge! Galaxy's Edge is where Streets of America used to be!
fun fact in HHN hollywood on 2010 Terror Tram: Chucky's Revenge it was revealed that Chucky was responsible for burning down the Universal Backlot as revenge for his shows cancellation,Chucky's Insult Emporium. this is awe inspiring as i wish someone burned epic universes potter land so we can get a better ip........like DC COMICS.
That's insane lore
Wtf no
@@holllyrhode ?
@@KimoDogTheather you’re crazy! There’s so many people waiting for that ministry of magic ride. It’s gonna be so dope!
I loved wildcat at HersheyPark yes it was rough in the end but it was fun but I’d still love to ride the new one haven’t been there in 9 years.
As long as the replacement ride is better I’m OK, even though I might miss the old ride
people need to realise that screens are cheaper and easier to fix then practical effects like fire and smoke, mechanics. it all comes down to cost. but i do have to say that disney went from Splash mt to Trash mt
I think the one ride that was able to overcome this problem is Jurassic World at USH. Originally, the change was not very well received, however after several updates and tweaks, the general consensus is that the ride is enjoyed by many
The worst part about the retheming of Splash Mountain isn't the fact Disney bent the knee to a couple dozen morons on Twitter, it's how cheap the new one looks...
You mention Diagon, galaxy edge over LM, guardians over Ellen's, and Yes, Yes, Yes, as a BLACK Person, Tiana's is a poor and insulting replacement. Disney made a Political Decision that now is not as popular and deserve the Backlash. You brought Politics in this and do you love what we have to say or is this comment going to be deleted
I mean, I went to cedar point back in 2014, and I rode the Mantis roller coaster, which was a stand-up type coaster. They closed that coaster for something else and nobody was really a fan of it. I liked it, but it was not a popular attraction.
Weirdly, USF has replaced (and re-replaced) most attractions - and IOA very little. Maybe the rides were mostly better at IOA (on their own) and less dependent on IP (except Suess), And, originally IOA had only two walk-through attractions out of 13; USF had 4 out of 7. Only kong, Jaws, BTTF (abit later), and Hanna Barbara were what we consider "rides".
Stop yelling at me.
Are you trying to convince us to not hate on Tiana's Bayou Adventure? Cause that's what it sounds like. Nobody complained about Splash Mountain absolutely nobody. When droves of big name actors showed up to ride it the last time that should tell you how loved it was. When Japan refuses to "update" their Splash Mountain that should tell you how loved it was. Now that Disneyland Japan is getting more foreign guests than ever before just to ride their Splash Mountain that should tell you how loved it was. Disney Stock is now tanking not to mention park attendance decline. It isn't about pleasing everyone. That's impossible. It's about pleasing the majority. It's about having more people who love the ride and ride it than more who hate the ride and let it rot. If more people hate it then the ride will become a money sucking eyesore. It will drive people away. And then what? Maintain it for 20 years, long enough for people to forgot what used to be there? Seems to be their strategy.
First of all as the video said the jury is still out on Tiana’s as the ride has yet to open in Disneyland second their are other factors for the stock drop and the lower attendance than just a controversial ride.
@@Mammothsaber-4457 Oh yes, a whole lot of factors. A lot a lot a lot of factors. Tiana's Bayou Adventure is a big factor right now. I'm not going to play that "You have to wait till both rides are built before you can judge." bullshit. Nope. A dumb idea done twice is still twice as dumb. I already rode it at Magic Kingdom, (when it was working). I never even got to ride the Splash Mountain they had. Now it's coming here to my home park of Disneyland. What a green eyesore. I'm just going to ride it to see what actual difference there is and then never ride it again. Just like The Pirates of the Caribbean and Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin. Sometimes I wish I was born a Gen-X like my dad. And got to see how much more creative and fun the world was.
@@ninedragons1 I disagree with the idea that riding the same ride at different parks being dumb as there are several examples of rides that though based on the same idea are different enough in each park to warrant judging them separately, e.g the Pirates of the Caribbean ride over here in Disneyland is superior to the magic kingdom imo as for the ride being an eysore, I don’t know it at least fits Disneyland better if only because it’s an extension of the already existing New Orleans square. Can’t speak for the actual ride since I haven’t ridden it.
@@Mammothsaber-4457 Sorry, but this is a long one. Riding the same ride in different parks isn't dumb, converting Splash Mountain into a boring Tiana ride is dumb. And doing it twice expecting to get a better result, well that's just the definition of insanity right there. Splash Mountain is in critter country not in New Orleans Square. By retheming it to TBA is extends New Orleans Square and destroys critter country. Look, Tiana deserved a whole lot better than this. She could have gotten her own ride or better yet her own restaurant. They did make a small Tiana's Palace here in Disneyland, but they could've went further. They could've replace the entire French Market into Tiana's Palace complete with animatronic characters to entertain diners. The ghost of Dr. Facilier could appear making things move or sing friends from the other side. It would've been awesome and something special for Disneyland that compares to The Beauty & Beast dinning experience in Magic Kingdom. Tiana does come out to greet guests, which is nice. Although I missed her each time I went. I'm sorry, but they gave Tiana a bad ride. First they destroyed a ride everyone loved. Then they gave Tiana a dull ride. The animatronics was sparse. Mostly dark. The story made no sense. The laughing place was cringe with a giant Tiana head projection looking at me, bobbing up and down. The only thing I had to look forward to was the final drop which was not as fun as the fear build up ala Splash Mountain. This just became another dull happy ride like Frozen. Not to mention they didn't use music from the movie. The only thing I can think of they could do better in California is if they replaced the mechatronic animatronics with Pneumatic ones. They just use compressed air so they'll do better in wet, damp environments. Instead of shorting out like the ones on Magic Kingdom. I'm so sorry, this was long and if you read all the way this far well I appreciate it. I do tend to be long winded.
Not at all. His stance was completely neutral. He also said that the complaints will never stop, and he’s correct.
I hated Disney long before they closed splash mountain lmao. Also what backlash would they face by not closing it? If lines for splash were any indication, people who were angry at it staying open were probably a small minority of redditors who complain about this shit 24/7.
To make so bad, the SJWs probably would still patronage Disney if Splash Mtn was open (but likely skip on riding it)