From the lore I take that Ichigo has royal blood from one of the main noble families in the Seireitei, The Shiba Clan. So Ichigo is actually carrying with him the imprinted hollow form of his deceased uncle... Kaien Shiba. Interesting...
I don't think that theory of Kaien Shiba is true. Shinagami don't have actual bodies, so when they die they become Reishi. But as he was fused with a hollow he had to go through Heuco Mundo where his soul was eaten by Arrancar 9. Also Kaien Shiba's Zanpacto release form is a Trident or Spear which is kind of water type Zanpacto while Iccin Shiba has fire type Zanpacto and also Ganju has a Zanpacto which can make objects into sand so basically a sand type Zanpacto, so I guess all Shiba members have some elemental type Zanpacto while Shiro had duel sword Zanpacto like Korauku but fused to his body and is basically a speed type Zanpacto as Shiro was not exactly powerful but had terrific speed which is basically Ichigo's bankai. Also when Ichigo was mastering final Getsuga Tenshou, he discarded spiritual power for physical abilities, which i have not seen any Shinigami or hollow do before. So I thing Ichigo got that ability through Shiro's and also Getsuga Tenshou from Icchin's Shinagami powers. So what i can tell is that who ever Shinagami was Shiro before had the Zanpacto ability of enhanced physical abilities and also for discarding spiritual pressure they can enhance their physical abilities even more.
@@rahulsar2030 MMMH, noo, actually no, you are getting A LOT OF THINGS WRONG and some backwards... For example, Ichigo does not discard his reiatsu, thats what Aizen said but he was wrong, Ichigo just transcended to a higher state of being which even Aizen was unable to understand, Ichigo wasnt just "really strong", he was overwhelmingly powerful. ITS NOT "ZANPACTO", its "ZANPAKUTO". Shiba wasnt "fused", he was possessed. Shiro was very powerful even in his "raw" form he was able to handle an echt quincy and a very strong shinigami captain. Shiro is just an experiment, maybe a fragment of a soul or several souls put together to create a "superior" hollow, anything else is just pure speculation.
i think you gave this more thought than kubo. one thing to me was clear while reading bleach in the latter parts. Kubo was winging that shit like a madman
A Shinigami/Hollow revenant that may be Kaien Shiba? I can believe that, either way the enigmatic nature of this being sure adds a badass mystique to him. Interesting take on this subject Simo-San.
Wait, no that couldn't work Aaroniero consumed Kaien's corpse along with the hollow that took over him. Shiro was formed from several Shinigami being forced together, a process similar to the way asauchi are.
@@manuelacosta9463 I mean Kaien's body and I guess soul (i mean it was being controlled by a hollow then consumed by another hollow which gained the first hollow's ability, so I'm not sure how that works with Kaien) was technically in Huecco Mundo when white was rampaging in Karakura town. Ichigo/ Zangetsu (white) looking like Kaien would be genetics from Isshin, being part of the Shiba clan himself.
Ichigo & Hichigo are special in all of bleach because Hichigo is Ichigo himself. When he learnt Final Getsuga Tenshou, He said he was originally Ichigo but has similar abilities to Aizen's experiment because when Ichigo was transforming to a Hollow, he consumed hollows powers transmitted him (from his mother) so as to evolve. That's what hollows do.
I knew it all along, ichigo father came from 1 of noble family in Seireitei “Shiba” , his name is Shiba Isshin later took the name Kurosaki Isshin after marrying noble human Quincy Kurosaki Masaki, as we know all people with the family name Shiba are all related, Shiba Kukaku even consider ichigo like her closest family member although she didn’t reveal her connection with Shiba Isshin / Kurosaki Isshin, kukaku help ichigo and other ryoka during the invasion of seireitei to save rukia. Don’t forget Aizen crazy experiment to become the ultimate being, sacrificed Shiba kaien after the hollow manifest kaien later the experiment considered failed according to aizen. Don’t you think that the hollow who manifest shiba kaien being turn into another version of this shiro vasto lorde hollow after the failed attempt to later become ichigo asauchi
Ichigo (as well as his sisters) is actually Kaien's, Kukaku's and Ganju's first cousin. This is hinted at in the manga, and further elaborated on in the light novels. On the Kurosaki side, Uryu is also a cousin to Ichigo and his sisters. Remember all Echt Quincy are directly related to eachother. As for Shiro's appearance, he's basically a dark mirror to Ichigo. Not sure if Kaien is a catalyst for his appearance, but it is interesting to think about.
look guys about the timing of kaien's death it said clearly in the novel of * we do knot always love you * " Isshin was the captain of squad 10 around the time of Kaien’s death. That his proud nephew had passed away, it was naturally a shock, he had heard from UKITAKE about the details and circumstances leading to his death, Isshin thought that Rukia needed a helping hand the most, he visited squad 13 many times. However, when her saw her much too pained face from the side, he found it impossible to call out to her no matter what." +++++ and there are facts from the manga ( Ps : look I was clear in the video ...again Im gonna say it it's low possibility to be kaien.. but not due to the timing ) rukia was adopted by byakuya 50 year ago And after a short time she was admitted to the gotei 13 ! because she said that if she's gonna adopted by kuchiki she will have graduated immediately and that's what happend ( recheck the flashbacks of rukia & renji ) before even toshiro being a shinigami rukia was in the academy with hinamori & kira and renji in the same year ! and in the flashback of toshiro we saw that hinamori was in the academy and toshiro was just a soul with his grandmotther ( recheck the flashback of toshiro ) but in the flashback of Isshin we saw toshiro already a shinigami !! which means rukia was a shinigami before toshiro ! so at the least 49 or 48 years ago she was already a shinigami even in thee short flashback when she was coming with the body of kaien ..ganjo was still a kid ! and the flashback of isshin it's clearly was 20 years ago ( in the Eighties ) so as a timing..Rukia was shinigami when isshin was a captain!
@@718YoungB rukia is at least 150yr old when she meets him in first ep as mentioned ¨I am 10 times older than you¨ so nah she ain´t young that´s just plothole
@@ulrtaprolegendangel3027 she may be older than ichigo, but dont forget before isshin came to real world for good he was apart of the shiba clan, and a captain at that so by the same regards how old do you think isshin is??? His time as a soul reaper ended when he saved masaki.
@@718YoungB its been 16 years since he came to and settled at earth and rukia is 150+ at that point so surely she should be aware since its only been 16 years and rukia has been a soul reaper since like 100 years ago so go figure sometimes plotholes happen Tite isn´t God youknow
I think that Shiro got his new shinigami power from Isshin. Because Isshin use his very existence as shinigami to counter part shiro existence in Masaki. And seeing how shiro went from Masaki to Ichigo I think that he went into Ichigo with a part of his father shinigami power but that he was not expecting to meet another obstacle inside Ichigo. That would also explain why he can use Isshin techniques, we have to remember that each zanpakutos is unique they come from the union of an asauchi and a shinigami, that's mean that you don't found two zanpakutos using the same technique. That's why I think that shiro absorbed a part of Isshin power.
It might have been all of his vasto power but it’s stated his cloak or gi shows the amount of bankai power left( at least unihanna ( sorry for spelling) in the anime) so he wasn’t truly at the released height of his bankai power.
You can't talk about Ichigos zanpakuto and not mention that his hollow powers are literally fused with it. They aren't separate, they're one set of powers.
Yhwach is such a terrifying villain omg .. even the full manifestation of the protagonist's power was useless against him he is truly the strongest shonen villain ever he must appear in jump force
Nah. The almighty is not absolute. And yhwach himself destroyed ichigos zanpakuto because he admitted that his bankai would actually be a threat to him.
We know that the Hollow White, was made from the soul fragments of Shinigamis. We also know that Hollows of Menos Grande level are hollows made from several souls that combine into one and from those many souls one (usually the strongest personality) asserts itself above the others. So if the White was made from soul fragments of Kaien soul and that personality rose above all others. When White infected Masaki Kurosaki and she became pregnant with Ichigo in her womb, and the power of the White passed on to Ichigo. Than that event made it so Ichigo holds such closely resemblance to Kaien. White Zangetsu is infact Kaien and Metastaccia's souls fused and his truest Zanpaktou and self he is Kaien reborn,Ywach Zangetsu is Ichigo's Parent's Powers that he inherited.
How about the entire experiment of Aizen in his quest to perfect his Hollowfication? Also I believe Aizen has an unhealthy obsession with Hollows. He was so intrigued by them that he had to be one. Obviously his motives was to reach higher but underneath all his posturing i think he truly loved being around Hollows.
Well yeah, it's because he felt empty inside (similar to Ulquiorra), as he knew no equal in the Shinigami world - well until he met Kisuke and finally Ichigo.
@@Cabolt44 that's true. I was looking at all his experiments and I can see a common theme. Like any good scientists he was testing how much power can the hogoyoku grant at different spiritual pressure before he turned himself and Tosen into full fledged Hollows. In fact now that I think about it what Kisuke did with his Hogoyoku probably gave him the idea of combining the 2. I believe analyzing the experiment itself will be fascinating from the initial phase of waking the hogyoku to the fusion of it with Aizen
I have a theory I wanted to throw your way and see what you make of it. My theory is that Ikomikidomoe is a remnant seed of the original memos grande that the soul king destroyed. He couldn’t fully destroy it so he had to seal it away within a zanpakuto to keep it from coming to fruition again. Hueco mundo was what became of the body of the original memos but they couldn’t destroy the soul and its directive was to seek oneness again and reclaim its original form. That’s why I think hollows consume one another as they’re trying to seek out a unified existence subconsciously. If he were to reclaim his true form the three worlds would inevitably collapse as the soul world would end up merging with the physical world again. I might be wrong and overthinking it but I’m curious as to your thoughts on the matter
So I have a question. Why is Shiro Kuns hollow hole filled in, with a red paste like stuff, in the exact same place that Ulquiorra Blows out of Ichigo. And is it actually possible that, like with the J (Jerk) Reiatsu flowed into Ichigo, is it possible that the Cero Oscuros did the same type of thing, and that it may have jump started Shiro Kuns transformation? I mean a bow shot there restores quincy powers, a Zanpacto can transfer if stabbed there, maybe the Cero did unknowingly the same type of thing. And Since Shiro was already fast, and strong, who kept his high speed regeneration. Would that not be kinda the same type of thing of the mixed souls inside taking in whatever they can get to help Ichigo? Also to whom ever said That Gonju has a Zanpaktou that allows him to turn things into sand. That is not correct.. That was a type of Family kido or hado i would imagine Since they were one of the Noble clans. I Really want to know, both who, and what is the unamed Noble Clan. And what do they do.
I still believed that Ichigo had to face him alone in his inner world, rather the true unnamed manifestation of his Quincy powers and his inner hollow Zanpakutō spirit combined into one. Just his Zanpakutō spirit only. Remember he said "So I got to face this guy"?
Horn of salvation is the best of all 3 worlds imo. Still utilizing flash step but probably has use of pesquias and blut. It was long ago but wasn’t that a gran rey cero plus getsuga in one?
This likely was added to the comments ...however Ichigo comes from the Shiba clan through his father. This is why ichigo looks like the Shinigami that Rukia killed
I don't know if i am right or wrong. But from what i know Ichigo is born Shinigami + Hollow + Quincy and later acquired Fullbring power. But in your explanation you placed Shinigami and Hollow power as the same things. 1. Ichigo dad was Royal Family and a Captain of Soul Society. So the Shinigami power that lie dormant would be vast by birth. 2. Before Ichigo mom and dad married, Ichigo mom's was attack by hollow during their joint fight with his future husband. It was there the Hollow power was injected to Ichigo's mom. Also since her mom is Quincy princess, she have vast Quincy power. So by birth Ichigo have both Quincy and Hollow from her mom. So, what i understand is that Shinigami power + Hollow power + Quincy power were all in Ichigo and they are all seperate power.
@@vjvahab5943 yeah, they took his body and sealed it like the original was sealed. I think they even cut him up in the same way, too. It happens in CFYOW.
Shiro is not in anyway related to Kain Shiba. Put that to bed right now because Kain wasn't even a Shinigami when Shiro was created. Otherwise Rukia would've recognize Isshin from the jump as a former Captain. Also for the last time his name is Zangetsu. Zangetsu is a duel spirit Zanpakuto like Katen Kyokotsu. Zangetsu takes the form of both Ossan and Shiro depending on what is needed for Ichigo to understand his own power. When Ichigo needed a stern but faithful teacher, Zangetsu takes the form of Ossan. When Zangetsu is angry and a tough lesson is needed then Shiro is the spirit for the job. What we see in Zangetsu is the physical reflection of who and what Ichigo is as a character. A noble person with a destructive nature underneath that has to be constantly kept reigned in due to the potential disaster he could cause. Zangetsu was correct in limiting Ichigo's power and I believe that his true goal everytime the Zanpakuto conversed with his owner was to teach his owner who he was as a person and Shinigami
I have already said in the video that the possibility of kaien being the dead shinigami is too low .. I think you didn't understand the meaning of this video! I'm talking about shiro who was the asauchi of the shinigami power of ichigo..the asauchi is a namless zanpakuto..but when you add your power to it... it becomes a zanpakuto and it gets a name ..and the name of ichigo’s zanpakuto is Zangetsu..we all know this fact..Zangetsu = ( shiro the shinigami side and quicny the old man ) And I’m only talking about shiro the shinigami power .. You can recheck chapter 541 and chapter 676
@@simourahara 1st let me explain my rant. I know you said the possibility was low but I was pointing out how ludicrous the theory of Shiro being Kaien was in the first place that it might as well not have even been mentioned due to the explanation provided. I was just pointing that out not saying you came up with it but I wouldn't have even entertained the thought simply because of the nature and relationship between Shinigami and Zanpakuto. They are reflections of the very essence of the individual whose powers are fully realized when in sync. 2nd i went on a rant about the names because...inspiration🤷♂️
@LioSlayer well the dead guy is irrelevant at least for the mean time😄. I mean that issue could come back up eventually we just have to be patient. Isshin being able to do a Getsuga isn't a mystery. That style of fighting fits his nature just like Ichigo. Like you said earlier the Zanpakuto is a physical reflection of the Shinigami's power and soul which is why I believe Zangetsu takes 2 forms to accurately reflect what kind of creature was Ichigo. Some call him a hybrid but I don't believe that. Ichigo is a Quincy with Shinigami powers that can utilize the powers of a Hollow due to his Zanpakuto corruption by Shiro.
@@ShakaZ3D Ichigo isn't a Quincy, Neither is he a Hollow. Ichigo is a Human who chose to be a Shinigami. When Urahara cut he's chain link, he could have become a hollow. Due to he's shinigami abilities he resisted thus Hichigo was made who consumed remnants of White in Ichigo. Reason he looks likes Ichigo is because He's Ichigo. Therefore, either Hichigo or Ichigo can be weilder while the other a Zanpakuto. Hichigo referenced this while Ichigo was trying to control he's hollow powers. Fact: Unlike other zanpakuto who can be summoned and assume a physical form, Hichigo is the only 1 who substitutes himself with Ichigo.
@@thomasowino5927 I can't believe you just said Ichigo wasn't a Quincy smh. Have you never watched or read a single episode that contained that information and was hinted at throughout the entire series? Yes Ichigo is a Quincy because his mother was a Quincy. Therefore that makes him a Quincy. A Shinigami is not a race of people but a profession. Anyone with spiritual power can be a Shinigami. Geesh Zangetsu and Yhwach have both said the same thing and its not even up for debate
Another reason it can't be Kaien is that Asauchi's were said to be created with a multitude of souls melded together (or bare minimum the combined multitude of the reiatsu of Shinigami that returns to Soul Society soil), so the statement that White was made similarly kills the idea that it was only one soul anyway. Not to mention Isshin comparing White to a Menos - also a being created with multiple soul beings melded together. It could have been based on a singular Shinigami that then was melded with lots of other souls but there's definitely more than one in there which sorta renders the idea of an original Shinigami moot if a bunch of Shinigami soul matter is in there. Add in the mentioned-in-video point that Kaien was already fused with Aaroneiro immediately and yeah there's just no way.
Have you done a video explaining/theorising why the lvl 99 Bakudo has two variants? the version we first saw when Tensai suppressed Ichigo and the alternate version we see the other use.
hi so what happened is kaien's soul and metastaccias soul merged and aizen never found the body(or cared to find the body)... ichigo is his own cousin reborn with metastaccia as shiro and he has his mothers power too fused with his dad's power as Yhwach zangetsu thats why hes so strong.. hes aizens and urahara's greatest experiment but urahara intervened with isshin., i wonder if aishido is a shiba as well.. great video
You can tell most of the commentors in this video didnt even read the manga and are stating *theories* when the truth of what and how Ichigo got Hollow ichigo had been revealed for YEARS.
Tell us about relation & similarities between zangetsu & engetsu..... we all have a glimpse that isshin's engetsu also have the final getsuga.... but it is true?
One of my questions. Is if ichigo in his vasto lorde form could use a Getsuga. Or would it be too powerful for the zanpakuto to stand. Because mugetsu didn’t have a regular zanpakuto, due to its power being too much. Would that be the same for the vasto lorde form? The power being too much for the zanpakuto to handle?
Thanks for these videos. Your interpretation of Bleach has been bring new life into old stories. Yamamoto had just died in the manga. What values does Yama represent? How did Yama bring stability to the world? When Yamotodamashii dies, what arises? Events in the spirit world are not bound by linear time: Ichigo/Shiro is the product of a world that despairs the death of Yamatodamashii. Hollows "mask" their pain. Arrancar celebrate it. So, Shiro is the celebration of the "freedom" from Yamatodamashii. ... at least that's how I've always interpreted it. ^^
Espada 9 ate a body without a soul he said.. the soul was kiaen and metastaccia fused..that aizen continued to use as explained in ichigos birth arch..he is kaien reborn, thats why the only other shibas in the plot treat him like their sibling..
Let’s not forget, that in the land of hollows, a man housing a hollow lies dead on the floor with a hole in his chest and clearly no soul chain could remain, one way or another the vastolorde form would have happened there
Try to do back stories, origins of characters etc on Harry Potter if you can and know about the general outline of the story itself? Thx and have a wonderful and blessed day! 😉😁
You do realise that white was made from the souls of several shinigamis like how the asuachi are made, by that logic it can't be kaien as at the time of this his soul was in the hollow world due to the hollow that fused with him ability
Side note I think Yuhabach had to break the horn of salvation because it's instant regeneration may have been beyond vital organs as I speculate vadto lorde Zengetsu may have had.
uh... the vital organs for a hollow are their mask and hollow hole... the mask was formerly their soul chain/chain of fate (a vital organ for shinigami) and the hollow hole is the hole where the soul sleep would have been in a shinigami (the equivalent to a heart for reitsu)... Ichigo's Horn of Salvation is a vital organ, though a spare one because he still has a soul chain attaching his zanpakuto to the rest of his soul. But yes... Ichigo would have greater regeneration/production of reitsu for having both the Horn of Salvation(hollow mask) and Soul Chain
Yeah, even in the start of his training with Kisuke he almost became hollow himself. Not because of Shiro's powers but because he in fact was dying and becoming hollow. It at least should be his own Hollow form combined with Shiro's remnants that corrupted Masaki's soul.
I think it's both. It's not like the hollow Shiro that Aizen created is literally inside of Ichigo, and more like that its "essence" so to speak, merged with Ishin's power, inside masaki. Then ichigo was born creating a soul formed by the three powers (kind of). That's why white ichigo has ichigo's form and represents not only his hollow powers, but his shinigami's. As Ichigo realized, they are ichigo's power, after all, they are himself. This is what I believe.
If orihime was not around him I'm sure he would have destroyed hocue mundo, earth in an instant. He caught ulquira's attack by bare hands. One sidedly beat ulqiora
There are a lot of things I disagree with In this video. If you read the manga you find out that the old man isn't actually zangetsu but a manifestation of ichigos quincy powers. Shiro(white) as he is called in this video is both his shinigami and hollow powers since they are intertwined. The way his powers work is if he had hollow and shinigami powers he would die if he had quincy and hollow powers he would die for him to exist he has to add a 3rd or in his case 4th power to balance the powers within him. So vasto lorde wasn't the black hollow that was his mother. His vasto lorde for was drawn out due to his life or death situation since zangetsu would die when ichigo would he used the hollows amazing regeneration abilities to keep ichigo alive but this wasn't ichigo at full strength he only was using about 1/4 of his normal reiatsu.
Well Kaien looks like Ichigo because they are cousins i think. It would make sense why it worked so well with him as they share blood and Ichigo has same sort of power as his dad soo clearly riatsu is similar ish in families
you know you maybe right about the hollow that was fighting isshin maybe kaien because in bleach brave soul new event kaien is in there as a four star in the new event like why he is there and the story is not pertaning to him
Not sure if anyone has really said this but Shiro wasn't a true hollow. Technically he didn't have a hollow hole. I was always a little vangue on what it was that was inside his actual hollow hole. It never looked right.....and looking back on it now I wonder if Aizen didn't just jam other shinigami souls into shiro who was already a hollow made a shinigami? All I am sure of is that it couldn't have been pleasent. One last thing is that for some reason I think the main hollow shiro was made from for some reason I think it was a captain. Not sure why and I could be wrong but it it was I think....
Most likely Shiro looks like Ichigo simply because he is not only ichigos Hollow and zanpakto and Inherited power from white and Kaien has nothing to do this and the reason Ichigo looks like him because their both Shibas. It's possible that Azien used multiple Shinigamis in Whites creation and that's why White is so strong and skilled at fighting because he has a database of skills from so many Shinigamis to call from along with using data from Metastacia in the creation of White.
I had this same theory a few years years befor 2020. I think your close but you missed that aizens hollow we took Shibas zanpaktou esentaly making him a blank shinigami. By adding hollow powers you get a blank asauchi with hollow power and ability. Also Karen's body was taken back to the Shiba it did not go to helicopter Mundo. Remember he said he lied the hollow with kaien Shiba zanpaktou absorbed did and got eaten not kaien Shiba actually body. I believe aizen recovered that and hollowfied it
Vasta lorde is the highest class of hollows, toshiro stated if you have 10 or more you could create chaos with it. And we have seen that ichigo almost destroys los noches and the levels of hell which was stated in novel each level hold infinite souls.for ichigo to almost destroys it which is visible on human world, no wonder hell giv ichigo a power up as they fear hahaha
Sorry to bust that bubble but shiro is someone else. Kain died years later. Ichigos dad wasn't a captain then because Rukia would've knew he was a former captain when she first saw him and we know they don't mind wipe anyone as she still remembers killing Kain. So clearly she would've remember his face. It's also the reason Aizen knew who he was but Shinji and the other Vizards didn't know. You have to use Ichigo's age and if you can figure out what year he was born you just go back to figure out how old his mother was. You can't figure out how old his dad is because he was a soul reaper so he could easily be 200 years old or more.
my friend it said clearly in the novel of rukia's wedding this ! and i quote " Isshin was the captain of squad 10 around the time of Kaien’s death. That his proud nephew had passed away, it was naturally a shock, he had heard from UKITAKE about the details and circumstances leading to his death, Isshin thought that Rukia needed a helping hand the most, he visited squad 13 many times. However, when her saw her much too pained face from the side, he found it impossible to call out to her no matter what." +++++ and there is facts from the manga btw look I was clear in the video ...again Im gonna say it it's low possibility to be kaien.. but not due to what you said ! rukia was adopted by byakuya 50 year ago And after a short time she was was admitted to the gotei 13 ! because she said that if she's gonna adopted by kuchiki she will have graduated immediately and that's what happend ( recheck the flashbacks of rukia & renji ) before even toshiro being a shinigami rukia was in the academy with hinamori & kira and renji in the same year ! and in the flashback of toshiro we saw that hinamori was in the academy and toshiro was just a soul with his grandmotther ( recheck the flashback of toshiro ) but in the flashback of Isshin we saw toshiro already a shinigami !! which means rukia was a shinigami before toshiro ! so at the least 49 or 48 years ago she was already a shinigami even in short flashback when she was coming with the body of kaien ganjo was still a kid ! and the flashback of isshin it's clearly was 20 years ago ( in the Eighties ) so as a timing..Rukia was shinigami when isshin was a captain!
Um Kaien and Ichigo look alike because they are cousins. Shiro looks like Ichigo, he literally is Ichigo just in whited color. I don't understand where you were going with that, also the reason Zangetsu and Engetsu are similar is because White is basically a zanpakuto and it imprinted its make up as Ichigo blade from Engetsu. It's the reason both Engetsu and Zangetsu are similarcin name and abilities, both being able to use Getsuga Tenshou and The Final Getsuga Tenshou.
My question is how did that masons from the soul society created zangetsu? Who wields hollow powers instead of shinigamis in the first place. Ichigo's vasto lorde form was his true bankai how did i say that it's because i base it from ichigo's latest bankai. Old man zangetsu supressed ichigo and real zangetsu's power since ichigo revives from being a shinigami and gives a fake shikai and bankai.
Vasto lorde was unrestrained but had only about 1/4 of the total reatsu that ichigo normally has so i think not at full strength but unrestrained.
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@@tobbakken2911 thanks for the correction😅
*Full hollow no such thing as VL ichigo, white isn't arrancar neither is ichigo
@@jamiecranton it is mostly referred it as VL because of its strength and is not actually a VL got it. 👍
Patamon Plus it simply sounds cooler
From the lore I take that Ichigo has royal blood from one of the main noble families in the Seireitei, The Shiba Clan. So Ichigo is actually carrying with him the imprinted hollow form of his deceased uncle... Kaien Shiba. Interesting...
I don't think that theory of Kaien Shiba is true. Shinagami don't have actual bodies, so when they die they become Reishi. But as he was fused with a hollow he had to go through Heuco Mundo where his soul was eaten by Arrancar 9. Also Kaien Shiba's Zanpacto release form is a Trident or Spear which is kind of water type Zanpacto while Iccin Shiba has fire type Zanpacto and also Ganju has a Zanpacto which can make objects into sand so basically a sand type Zanpacto, so I guess all Shiba members have some elemental type Zanpacto while Shiro had duel sword Zanpacto like Korauku but fused to his body and is basically a speed type Zanpacto as Shiro was not exactly powerful but had terrific speed which is basically Ichigo's bankai. Also when Ichigo was mastering final Getsuga Tenshou, he discarded spiritual power for physical abilities, which i have not seen any Shinigami or hollow do before. So I thing Ichigo got that ability through Shiro's and also Getsuga Tenshou from Icchin's Shinagami powers.
So what i can tell is that who ever Shinagami was Shiro before had the Zanpacto ability of enhanced physical abilities and also for discarding spiritual pressure they can enhance their physical abilities even more.
@@rahulsar2030 MMMH, noo, actually no, you are getting A LOT OF THINGS WRONG and some backwards... For example, Ichigo does not discard his reiatsu, thats what Aizen said but he was wrong, Ichigo just transcended to a higher state of being which even Aizen was unable to understand, Ichigo wasnt just "really strong", he was overwhelmingly powerful. ITS NOT "ZANPACTO", its "ZANPAKUTO". Shiba wasnt "fused", he was possessed. Shiro was very powerful even in his "raw" form he was able to handle an echt quincy and a very strong shinigami captain. Shiro is just an experiment, maybe a fragment of a soul or several souls put together to create a "superior" hollow, anything else is just pure speculation.
@@thedarkblitz overwhelming powerful ...lol....yet aizen burnt his ass later on not too long after
@@raheemcamal998 but he still couldnt do sht about Mugetsu so him being stronger is still valid...”lol”
@@magilas8485 didn't say is weaker though did I..........
I love your way of explaining bleach. I wonder if Karin and Yuzu have a bit of Shiro inside of them
I think so. Then again, how would that work? Remnants? More like beings affected by Shiro, maybe. Evolved a lil.
They don't
@@Mr.Erikstad well, they may not have a part of Shiro but are still Quincys
@@Grayson-Winchester tru, from.the main lineage too. And just looking at Karin, she s physically op too lol
No, Karin more close to shinigami and Yuzu more close to Quincy do they appearance
Awesome man!! This help me clarify how his hollow/shinigami’s power works.
My man is back
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i think you gave this more thought than kubo. one thing to me was clear while reading bleach in the latter parts. Kubo was winging that shit like a madman
Imagine if he planned his stories carefully than somehow winging it lmao
A Shinigami/Hollow revenant that may be Kaien Shiba? I can believe that, either way the enigmatic nature of this being sure adds a badass mystique to him. Interesting take on this subject Simo-San.
Wait, no that couldn't work Aaroniero consumed Kaien's corpse along with the hollow that took over him. Shiro was formed from several Shinigami being forced together, a process similar to the way asauchi are.
@@noobstoise1024 Hmm, you're right. Yet again maybe, just maybe his spiritual 'essence' managed to pull through. The Shibas have a strong will.
@@manuelacosta9463 I mean Kaien's body and I guess soul (i mean it was being controlled by a hollow then consumed by another hollow which gained the first hollow's ability, so I'm not sure how that works with Kaien) was technically in Huecco Mundo when white was rampaging in Karakura town. Ichigo/ Zangetsu (white) looking like Kaien would be genetics from Isshin, being part of the Shiba clan himself.
What a wonderful explanation. Truly amazing. Hoping to see all this in an anime
Ichigo & Hichigo are special in all of bleach because Hichigo is Ichigo himself. When he learnt Final Getsuga Tenshou, He said he was originally Ichigo but has similar abilities to Aizen's experiment because when Ichigo was transforming to a Hollow, he consumed hollows powers transmitted him (from his mother) so as to evolve. That's what hollows do.
I knew it all along, ichigo father came from 1 of noble family in Seireitei “Shiba” , his name is Shiba Isshin later took the name Kurosaki Isshin after marrying noble human Quincy Kurosaki Masaki, as we know all people with the family name Shiba are all related, Shiba Kukaku even consider ichigo like her closest family member although she didn’t reveal her connection with Shiba Isshin / Kurosaki Isshin, kukaku help ichigo and other ryoka during the invasion of seireitei to save rukia. Don’t forget Aizen crazy experiment to become the ultimate being, sacrificed Shiba kaien after the hollow manifest kaien later the experiment considered failed according to aizen. Don’t you think that the hollow who manifest shiba kaien being turn into another version of this shiro vasto lorde hollow after the failed attempt to later become ichigo asauchi
Ichigo (as well as his sisters) is actually Kaien's, Kukaku's and Ganju's first cousin. This is hinted at in the manga, and further elaborated on in the light novels. On the Kurosaki side, Uryu is also a cousin to Ichigo and his sisters. Remember all Echt Quincy are directly related to eachother. As for Shiro's appearance, he's basically a dark mirror to Ichigo. Not sure if Kaien is a catalyst for his appearance, but it is interesting to think about.
Wasn’t kaien absorbed by the 9th espada or what ever the espada Rukia fought in the hueco mundo arc
look guys
about the timing of kaien's death
it said clearly in the novel of * we do knot always love you *
" Isshin was the captain of squad 10 around the time of Kaien’s death. That his proud
nephew had passed away, it was naturally a shock, he had heard from UKITAKE about
the details and circumstances leading to his death, Isshin thought that Rukia needed a
helping hand the most, he visited squad 13 many times. However, when her saw her
much too pained face from the side, he found it impossible to call out to her no matter
what."
+++++
and there are facts from the manga
( Ps : look I was clear in the video ...again Im gonna say it it's low possibility to be kaien..
but not due to the timing )
rukia was adopted by byakuya 50 year ago
And after a short time she was admitted to the gotei 13 !
because she said that if she's gonna adopted by kuchiki
she will have graduated immediately
and that's what happend
( recheck the flashbacks of rukia & renji )
before even toshiro being a shinigami
rukia was in the academy with hinamori & kira and renji in the same year !
and in the flashback of toshiro we saw that hinamori was in the academy and toshiro was just a soul with his grandmotther
( recheck the flashback of toshiro )
but in the flashback of Isshin we saw toshiro already a shinigami !!
which means rukia was a shinigami before toshiro !
so at the least 49 or 48 years ago she was already a shinigami
even in thee short flashback when she was coming with the body of kaien ..ganjo was still a kid !
and the flashback of isshin it's clearly was 20 years ago ( in the Eighties )
so as a timing..Rukia was shinigami when isshin was a captain!
a question tho, how rukia did not knew ichigo dad was a captain?
Ichigo's pop's is much older than we all know, remember at this time rukia is probably a child currently running around with Renji...
@@718YoungB rukia is at least 150yr old when she meets him in first ep as mentioned ¨I am 10 times older than you¨ so nah she ain´t young that´s just plothole
@@ulrtaprolegendangel3027 she may be older than ichigo, but dont forget before isshin came to real world for good he was apart of the shiba clan, and a captain at that so by the same regards how old do you think isshin is??? His time as a soul reaper ended when he saved masaki.
@@ulrtaprolegendangel3027 plus this comment is about ichigo dad, not him...
@@718YoungB its been 16 years since he came to and settled at earth and rukia is 150+ at that point so
surely she should be aware since its only been 16 years and rukia has been a soul reaper since like 100 years ago so
go figure
sometimes plotholes happen
Tite isn´t God youknow
.........wow am early.........cool discussing Shiro........big thx........ :)
I think that Shiro got his new shinigami power from Isshin. Because Isshin use his very existence as shinigami to counter part shiro existence in Masaki. And seeing how shiro went from Masaki to Ichigo I think that he went into Ichigo with a part of his father shinigami power but that he was not expecting to meet another obstacle inside Ichigo. That would also explain why he can use Isshin techniques, we have to remember that each zanpakutos is unique they come from the union of an asauchi and a shinigami, that's mean that you don't found two zanpakutos using the same technique. That's why I think that shiro absorbed a part of Isshin power.
Well kaien and ichigo are related so thats probably why they look like each other
Isshin is from the Shiba clan, his name b4 marriage is Shiba Isshin. Kurosaki name is from Ichigo's mother side.
They are not relate
@@LUCIFERCIERIE they are related. Ichigo's dad was from a side branch of the Shiba clan. Read the manga.
@@dna448 that not how they "relate" cuz he is side branch bloodline
@@LUCIFERCIERIE Kaien is Ichigos cousin, they are related. Not closely but yes they are related
It might have been all of his vasto power but it’s stated his cloak or gi shows the amount of bankai power left( at least unihanna ( sorry for spelling) in the anime) so he wasn’t truly at the released height of his bankai power.
You can't talk about Ichigos zanpakuto and not mention that his hollow powers are literally fused with it. They aren't separate, they're one set of powers.
Im a lottle confused what about hus zanpakuto (zangetsu)? If his hollow (shiro) is his zanpakuto?
@@lyricom1331 whiro is the real zanpakuto spirit, while "zangetsu" is actually his quincy powers made manifest.
@@lyricom1331 old man zangestu is actually his Quincy powers, White is the real Zangestu.
Yhwach is such a terrifying villain omg .. even the full manifestation of the protagonist's power was useless against him he is truly the strongest shonen villain ever he must appear in jump force
Hands down the most OP broken bad guy in shonan history..... Almighty is too hax
@@LuigiFan1305 he isn't bad actually, he did all that to avenge the soul king and create the absolute world when he has all powers yhwach was right
Nah. The almighty is not absolute. And yhwach himself destroyed ichigos zanpakuto because he admitted that his bankai would actually be a threat to him.
We know that the Hollow White, was made from the soul fragments of Shinigamis. We also know that Hollows of Menos Grande level are hollows made from several souls that combine into one and from those many souls one (usually the strongest personality) asserts itself above the others. So if the White was made from soul fragments of Kaien soul and that personality rose above all others. When White infected Masaki Kurosaki and she became pregnant with Ichigo in her womb, and the power of the White passed on to Ichigo. Than that event made it so Ichigo holds such closely resemblance to Kaien. White Zangetsu is infact Kaien and Metastaccia's souls fused and his truest Zanpaktou and self he is Kaien reborn,Ywach Zangetsu is Ichigo's Parent's Powers that he inherited.
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Another amazingly descriptive video. Thanks for all your work prior and present brutha 👍👍
How about the entire experiment of Aizen in his quest to perfect his Hollowfication? Also I believe Aizen has an unhealthy obsession with Hollows. He was so intrigued by them that he had to be one. Obviously his motives was to reach higher but underneath all his posturing i think he truly loved being around Hollows.
Well yeah, it's because he felt empty inside (similar to Ulquiorra), as he knew no equal in the Shinigami world - well until he met Kisuke and finally Ichigo.
@@Cabolt44 that's true. I was looking at all his experiments and I can see a common theme. Like any good scientists he was testing how much power can the hogoyoku grant at different spiritual pressure before he turned himself and Tosen into full fledged Hollows. In fact now that I think about it what Kisuke did with his Hogoyoku probably gave him the idea of combining the 2. I believe analyzing the experiment itself will be fascinating from the initial phase of waking the hogyoku to the fusion of it with Aizen
I have a theory I wanted to throw your way and see what you make of it. My theory is that Ikomikidomoe is a remnant seed of the original memos grande that the soul king destroyed. He couldn’t fully destroy it so he had to seal it away within a zanpakuto to keep it from coming to fruition again. Hueco mundo was what became of the body of the original memos but they couldn’t destroy the soul and its directive was to seek oneness again and reclaim its original form. That’s why I think hollows consume one another as they’re trying to seek out a unified existence subconsciously. If he were to reclaim his true form the three worlds would inevitably collapse as the soul world would end up merging with the physical world again. I might be wrong and overthinking it but I’m curious as to your thoughts on the matter
That's wrong. Read the novels.
i just love how basto lorde ichigo vs ulquiora is almost naked wich means he is not even half his power and still was so one sided
Thank you for pronouncing it properly. I just can't deal with people calling it Vasto "Lorday"
Loving the breakdown
Poor kaien, can't find peace in his death from puppet show to puppet show
I like the image of ichigo in vasto lorde form with mask broken...
Agreed
After the fight his hair were still long
Yep but just for secondes long then the hair returned into his original form
@@otakuzero4900 yup
@@otakuzero4900 I have replied to a comment, u can check it out and let me know what u think👍
So I have a question.
Why is Shiro Kuns hollow hole filled in, with a red paste like stuff, in the exact same place that Ulquiorra Blows out of Ichigo. And is it actually possible that, like with the J (Jerk) Reiatsu flowed into Ichigo, is it possible that the Cero Oscuros did the same type of thing, and that it may have jump started Shiro Kuns transformation? I mean a bow shot there restores quincy powers, a Zanpacto can transfer if stabbed there, maybe the Cero did unknowingly the same type of thing.
And Since Shiro was already fast, and strong, who kept his high speed regeneration. Would that not be kinda the same type of thing of the mixed souls inside taking in whatever they can get to help Ichigo?
Also to whom ever said That Gonju has a Zanpaktou that allows him to turn things into sand. That is not correct..
That was a type of Family kido or hado i would imagine Since they were one of the Noble clans.
I Really want to know, both who, and what is the unamed Noble Clan. And what do they do.
I was waiting for the new vid man. Love your videos
I think as you said, Kaien was already used for one purpose, so he probably used someone else, maybe a stronger shinigami
That Shiba theory sounds extremely plausible. I'll need to see how the timeline shakes out
I still believed that Ichigo had to face him alone in his inner world, rather the true unnamed manifestation of his Quincy powers and his inner hollow Zanpakutō spirit combined into one. Just his Zanpakutō spirit only. Remember he said "So I got to face this guy"?
Shiro is the name of my kitten lol
انت شخص رائع و تحليلك منطقي
شكرا للمحتوى الممتع
You are the best at this
Horn of salvation is the best of all 3 worlds imo. Still utilizing flash step but probably has use of pesquias and blut. It was long ago but wasn’t that a gran rey cero plus getsuga in one?
excellent work, keep it up!!
This likely was added to the comments ...however Ichigo comes from the Shiba clan through his father. This is why ichigo looks like the Shinigami that Rukia killed
Good video!
Simo Urahara, can you post a theory on why Sode no Shirayuki looks similar to Kian's wife?
How about Ichigo's 2nd visored mask?
I will always rewatch and reread bleach just for vasto lorde form like that shit gon make me cetch gods hands
What chapter is this from manga?
Good videos Simo!! 🙏👌🏽✊🏽✊🏽
I don't know if i am right or wrong. But from what i know Ichigo is born Shinigami + Hollow + Quincy and later acquired Fullbring power. But in your explanation you placed Shinigami and Hollow power as the same things.
1. Ichigo dad was Royal Family and a Captain of Soul Society. So the Shinigami power that lie dormant would be vast by birth.
2. Before Ichigo mom and dad married, Ichigo mom's was attack by hollow during their joint fight with his future husband. It was there the Hollow power was injected to Ichigo's mom. Also since her mom is Quincy princess, she have vast Quincy power. So by birth Ichigo have both Quincy and Hollow from her mom.
So, what i understand is that Shinigami power + Hollow power + Quincy power were all in Ichigo and they are all seperate power.
I have a question: WHO is acting as the soul king after the last arc??
Is it from squad zero?
Is it Aizen?
The remains of yhwach
@@simourahara SO you mean there are still remains of yhwach other than that part that Kazui absorbed??
@@vjvahab5943 Kazui destroyed those remnants, he didn't absorb them. Also yes it is still Yhwach that is the Soul King.
@@vjvahab5943 yeah, they took his body and sealed it like the original was sealed. I think they even cut him up in the same way, too. It happens in CFYOW.
Shiro is not in anyway related to Kain Shiba. Put that to bed right now because Kain wasn't even a Shinigami when Shiro was created. Otherwise Rukia would've recognize Isshin from the jump as a former Captain. Also for the last time his name is Zangetsu. Zangetsu is a duel spirit Zanpakuto like Katen Kyokotsu. Zangetsu takes the form of both Ossan and Shiro depending on what is needed for Ichigo to understand his own power. When Ichigo needed a stern but faithful teacher, Zangetsu takes the form of Ossan. When Zangetsu is angry and a tough lesson is needed then Shiro is the spirit for the job. What we see in Zangetsu is the physical reflection of who and what Ichigo is as a character. A noble person with a destructive nature underneath that has to be constantly kept reigned in due to the potential disaster he could cause. Zangetsu was correct in limiting Ichigo's power and I believe that his true goal everytime the Zanpakuto conversed with his owner was to teach his owner who he was as a person and Shinigami
I have already said in the video that the possibility of kaien being the dead shinigami is too low ..
I think you didn't understand the meaning of this video! I'm talking about shiro who was the asauchi of the shinigami power of ichigo..the asauchi is a namless zanpakuto..but when you add your power to it... it becomes a zanpakuto and it gets a name ..and the name of ichigo’s zanpakuto is Zangetsu..we all know this fact..Zangetsu = ( shiro the shinigami side and quicny the old man )
And I’m only talking about shiro the shinigami power ..
You can recheck chapter 541 and chapter 676
@@simourahara 1st let me explain my rant. I know you said the possibility was low but I was pointing out how ludicrous the theory of Shiro being Kaien was in the first place that it might as well not have even been mentioned due to the explanation provided. I was just pointing that out not saying you came up with it but I wouldn't have even entertained the thought simply because of the nature and relationship between Shinigami and Zanpakuto. They are reflections of the very essence of the individual whose powers are fully realized when in sync. 2nd i went on a rant about the names because...inspiration🤷♂️
@LioSlayer well the dead guy is irrelevant at least for the mean time😄. I mean that issue could come back up eventually we just have to be patient. Isshin being able to do a Getsuga isn't a mystery. That style of fighting fits his nature just like Ichigo. Like you said earlier the Zanpakuto is a physical reflection of the Shinigami's power and soul which is why I believe Zangetsu takes 2 forms to accurately reflect what kind of creature was Ichigo. Some call him a hybrid but I don't believe that. Ichigo is a Quincy with Shinigami powers that can utilize the powers of a Hollow due to his Zanpakuto corruption by Shiro.
@@ShakaZ3D Ichigo isn't a Quincy, Neither is he a Hollow. Ichigo is a Human who chose to be a Shinigami. When Urahara cut he's chain link, he could have become a hollow. Due to he's shinigami abilities he resisted thus Hichigo was made who consumed remnants of White in Ichigo. Reason he looks likes Ichigo is because He's Ichigo. Therefore, either Hichigo or Ichigo can be weilder while the other a Zanpakuto. Hichigo referenced this while Ichigo was trying to control he's hollow powers. Fact: Unlike other zanpakuto who can be summoned and assume a physical form, Hichigo is the only 1 who substitutes himself with Ichigo.
@@thomasowino5927 I can't believe you just said Ichigo wasn't a Quincy smh. Have you never watched or read a single episode that contained that information and was hinted at throughout the entire series? Yes Ichigo is a Quincy because his mother was a Quincy. Therefore that makes him a Quincy. A Shinigami is not a race of people but a profession. Anyone with spiritual power can be a Shinigami. Geesh Zangetsu and Yhwach have both said the same thing and its not even up for debate
11:32 does anyone know the background music name?
Thanks man for clarification. ❤️. A brilliant analysis.
Imagine ichigos vasto lorde with his full robe
Oh wow it never occurred to me that the shinigami soul used for shiro could be Kaien Shiba
how do you get colored panels ?
This was nice! Next, do one on his form at horn of disappointment!
Another reason it can't be Kaien is that Asauchi's were said to be created with a multitude of souls melded together (or bare minimum the combined multitude of the reiatsu of Shinigami that returns to Soul Society soil), so the statement that White was made similarly kills the idea that it was only one soul anyway. Not to mention Isshin comparing White to a Menos - also a being created with multiple soul beings melded together.
It could have been based on a singular Shinigami that then was melded with lots of other souls but there's definitely more than one in there which sorta renders the idea of an original Shinigami moot if a bunch of Shinigami soul matter is in there. Add in the mentioned-in-video point that Kaien was already fused with Aaroneiro immediately and yeah there's just no way.
Have you done a video explaining/theorising why the lvl 99 Bakudo has two variants? the version we first saw when Tensai suppressed Ichigo and the alternate version we see the other use.
Great vid man! Btw, what did you think about the new bleach brave souls banner?
Kaien is also related to ichigo. Ichigos dad Isshin was originally a Shiba and he is the uncle of Ganju, Kukaku, and thus Kaien
Love this channel. 👍🏾
Love your channel bro. You talk about good shit.
Dude I can’t wait for Bleach 2021
hi so what happened is kaien's soul and metastaccias soul merged and aizen never found the body(or cared to find the body)... ichigo is his own cousin reborn with metastaccia as shiro and he has his mothers power too fused with his dad's power as Yhwach zangetsu thats why hes so strong.. hes aizens and urahara's greatest experiment but urahara intervened with isshin., i wonder if aishido is a shiba as well.. great video
Welcome back 🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
You can tell most of the commentors in this video didnt even read the manga and are stating *theories* when the truth of what and how Ichigo got Hollow ichigo had been revealed for YEARS.
Tell us about relation & similarities between zangetsu & engetsu..... we all have a glimpse that isshin's engetsu also have the final getsuga.... but it is true?
good question
Well, isshin wouldn't know about final getsuga if he wouldn't have it.(my opinion)
Didn't he say that it refused to teach him that?
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 refuse... but they didn't said whether isshin finally mastered it or not
One of my questions. Is if ichigo in his vasto lorde form could use a Getsuga. Or would it be too powerful for the zanpakuto to stand. Because mugetsu didn’t have a regular zanpakuto, due to its power being too much. Would that be the same for the vasto lorde form? The power being too much for the zanpakuto to handle?
He can use getsuga. Although it would kinda be pointless when he could just fire ceros from his horns.
Thanks for these videos. Your interpretation of Bleach has been bring new life into old stories. Yamamoto had just died in the manga. What values does Yama represent? How did Yama bring stability to the world? When Yamotodamashii dies, what arises? Events in the spirit world are not bound by linear time: Ichigo/Shiro is the product of a world that despairs the death of Yamatodamashii. Hollows "mask" their pain. Arrancar celebrate it. So, Shiro is the celebration of the "freedom" from Yamatodamashii. ... at least that's how I've always interpreted it. ^^
where is this from? is there a manga i dont know about?
in manga. read the final arc and you'll see
What is this storyline with Shiro?
Could you talk about that final bankai form that was released in the Bleach mobile game because it looks like all his powers into one
Remember, Ichigo actually died, and his soul went thru soul ascension. Try not to compare him with his sisters or his friends.
When did he die again?
@@louisrobitaille5810 when kenpachi and them had there first battle and at the end kenpachi and ichigo collapse to the ground
@@louisrobitaille5810 In the training with Urahara.
Aizen could have caused the fall of the Shiba family.
He didn't. It was the Tsunayashiro Clan who caused their downfall (if you read the LN Can't Fear Your Own World).
Espada 9 ate a body without a soul he said.. the soul was kiaen and metastaccia fused..that aizen continued to use as explained in ichigos birth arch..he is kaien reborn, thats why the only other shibas in the plot treat him like their sibling..
Can iu tell me in which episode did he say that his hollow is vasto lorde
People call it that because the only other hollows with human shapes are vasto lordes.
Let’s not forget, that in the land of hollows, a man housing a hollow lies dead on the floor with a hole in his chest and clearly no soul chain could remain, one way or another the vastolorde form would have happened there
Try to do back stories, origins of characters etc on Harry Potter if you can and know about the general outline of the story itself? Thx and have a wonderful and blessed day! 😉😁
If Shiro was within Ichigo why was he rejected by the Assauchi on the Soul Kings Palace?
Read the manga again dude
@Perangkul Tukang thanks bro
Also can we get content on yumichicka and ikkaku? And yachiru and maybe even Iba? #squad11
You do realise that white was made from the souls of several shinigamis like how the asuachi are made, by that logic it can't be kaien as at the time of this his soul was in the hollow world due to the hollow that fused with him ability
We all know that Vasto Lorde Ichigo vs Ulquiorra was a totally one sided battle....
Side note I think Yuhabach had to break the horn of salvation because it's instant regeneration may have been beyond vital organs as I speculate vadto lorde Zengetsu may have had.
uh... the vital organs for a hollow are their mask and hollow hole... the mask was formerly their soul chain/chain of fate (a vital organ for shinigami) and the hollow hole is the hole where the soul sleep would have been in a shinigami (the equivalent to a heart for reitsu)... Ichigo's Horn of Salvation is a vital organ, though a spare one because he still has a soul chain attaching his zanpakuto to the rest of his soul. But yes... Ichigo would have greater regeneration/production of reitsu for having both the Horn of Salvation(hollow mask) and Soul Chain
هل انت صاحب قناة سيمو كيسكي
Honestly I didn't really like ichigo's hollow's origin being "foreign", I prefer the idea of it being a reflexion of his inner self.
Yeah, even in the start of his training with Kisuke he almost became hollow himself.
Not because of Shiro's powers but because he in fact was dying and becoming hollow.
It at least should be his own Hollow form combined with Shiro's remnants that corrupted Masaki's soul.
I think it's both. It's not like the hollow Shiro that Aizen created is literally inside of Ichigo, and more like that its "essence" so to speak, merged with Ishin's power, inside masaki. Then ichigo was born creating a soul formed by the three powers (kind of). That's why white ichigo has ichigo's form and represents not only his hollow powers, but his shinigami's. As Ichigo realized, they are ichigo's power, after all, they are himself. This is what I believe.
moroccan brother it's great continue
The white is a mix and compression of various shinigami souls and rietsu
So, how about ichigo school? Is he graduated in the end?
he became a teacher
@@stepdadgremmy9338 for real?. Bcs i dont read the manga.
@@Julian.Gilexs yea dont google it though or you'll get tons of spoilers for the last arc
If orihime was not around him I'm sure he would have destroyed hocue mundo, earth in an instant. He caught ulquira's attack by bare hands. One sidedly beat ulqiora
There are a lot of things I disagree with In this video. If you read the manga you find out that the old man isn't actually zangetsu but a manifestation of ichigos quincy powers. Shiro(white) as he is called in this video is both his shinigami and hollow powers since they are intertwined. The way his powers work is if he had hollow and shinigami powers he would die if he had quincy and hollow powers he would die for him to exist he has to add a 3rd or in his case 4th power to balance the powers within him. So vasto lorde wasn't the black hollow that was his mother. His vasto lorde for was drawn out due to his life or death situation since zangetsu would die when ichigo would he used the hollows amazing regeneration abilities to keep ichigo alive but this wasn't ichigo at full strength he only was using about 1/4 of his normal reiatsu.
Well Kaien looks like Ichigo because they are cousins i think. It would make sense why it worked so well with him as they share blood and Ichigo has same sort of power as his dad soo clearly riatsu is similar ish in families
you know you maybe right about the hollow that was fighting isshin maybe kaien because in bleach brave soul new event kaien is in there as a four star in the new event like why he is there and the story is not pertaning to him
yeah dude, kaien *4 kinda sus
I was about to say I thought it was Shiba Kaisen but you beat me to it lmfao
Not sure if anyone has really said this but Shiro wasn't a true hollow. Technically he didn't have a hollow hole. I was always a little vangue on what it was that was inside his actual hollow hole. It never looked right.....and looking back on it now I wonder if Aizen didn't just jam other shinigami souls into shiro who was already a hollow made a shinigami? All I am sure of is that it couldn't have been pleasent. One last thing is that for some reason I think the main hollow shiro was made from for some reason I think it was a captain. Not sure why and I could be wrong but it it was I think....
Most likely Shiro looks like Ichigo simply because he is not only ichigos Hollow and zanpakto and Inherited power from white and Kaien has nothing to do this and the reason Ichigo looks like him because their both Shibas.
It's possible that Azien used multiple Shinigamis in Whites creation and that's why White is so strong and skilled at fighting because he has a database of skills from so many Shinigamis to call from along with using data from Metastacia in the creation of White.
I had this same theory a few years years befor 2020. I think your close but you missed that aizens hollow we took Shibas zanpaktou esentaly making him a blank shinigami. By adding hollow powers you get a blank asauchi with hollow power and ability. Also Karen's body was taken back to the Shiba it did not go to helicopter Mundo. Remember he said he lied the hollow with kaien Shiba zanpaktou absorbed did and got eaten not kaien Shiba actually body. I believe aizen recovered that and hollowfied it
Vasta lorde is the highest class of hollows, toshiro stated if you have 10 or more you could create chaos with it. And we have seen that ichigo almost destroys los noches and the levels of hell which was stated in novel each level hold infinite souls.for ichigo to almost destroys it which is visible on human world, no wonder hell giv ichigo a power up as they fear hahaha
Sorry to bust that bubble but shiro is someone else. Kain died years later. Ichigos dad wasn't a captain then because Rukia would've knew he was a former captain when she first saw him and we know they don't mind wipe anyone as she still remembers killing Kain. So clearly she would've remember his face. It's also the reason Aizen knew who he was but Shinji and the other Vizards didn't know. You have to use Ichigo's age and if you can figure out what year he was born you just go back to figure out how old his mother was. You can't figure out how old his dad is because he was a soul reaper so he could easily be 200 years old or more.
my friend it said clearly in the novel of rukia's wedding this !
and i quote
" Isshin was the captain of squad 10 around the time of Kaien’s death. That his proud
nephew had passed away, it was naturally a shock, he had heard from UKITAKE about
the details and circumstances leading to his death, Isshin thought that Rukia needed a
helping hand the most, he visited squad 13 many times. However, when her saw her
much too pained face from the side, he found it impossible to call out to her no matter
what."
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and there is facts from the manga
btw look I was clear in the video ...again Im gonna say it it's low possibility to be kaien..
but not due to what you said !
rukia was adopted by byakuya 50 year ago
And after a short time she was was admitted to the gotei 13 !
because she said that if she's gonna adopted by kuchiki
she will have graduated immediately
and that's what happend
( recheck the flashbacks of rukia & renji )
before even toshiro being a shinigami
rukia was in the academy with hinamori & kira and renji in the same year !
and in the flashback of toshiro we saw that hinamori was in the academy and toshiro was just a soul with his grandmotther
( recheck the flashback of toshiro )
but in the flashback of Isshin we saw toshiro already a shinigami !!
which means rukia was a shinigami before toshiro !
so at the least 49 or 48 years ago she was already a shinigami
even in short flashback when she was coming with the body of kaien ganjo was still a kid !
and the flashback of isshin it's clearly was 20 years ago ( in the Eighties )
so as a timing..Rukia was shinigami when isshin was a captain!
Um Kaien and Ichigo look alike because they are cousins. Shiro looks like Ichigo, he literally is Ichigo just in whited color. I don't understand where you were going with that, also the reason Zangetsu and Engetsu are similar is because White is basically a zanpakuto and it imprinted its make up as Ichigo blade from Engetsu. It's the reason both Engetsu and Zangetsu are similarcin name and abilities, both being able to use Getsuga Tenshou and The Final Getsuga Tenshou.
I didn't even know that about myself.
My question is how did that masons from the soul society created zangetsu? Who wields hollow powers instead of shinigamis in the first place. Ichigo's vasto lorde form was his true bankai how did i say that it's because i base it from ichigo's latest bankai. Old man zangetsu supressed ichigo and real zangetsu's power since ichigo revives from being a shinigami and gives a fake shikai and bankai.
You mean Zangetsu?