Might be worth starting a "drinks with my dad" section about people's stories and bonds formed between son and father over whiskey. I'd love to contribute!
I fully support the idea! Your excellent story reminds us all of sharing whisky with our Dad and with special and dear friends who have touched our lives. Just for reference, Ralfy talked about whisky with his Dad when he reviewed the Bunnahabain 12
My first Scotch experience was a Johnny Walker Red. My neighbor always had it handy. He was a retired Navy Commander. I have since become more educated through the Whiskey Vault since Covid. Depending on my mood, I can taste various Scotches from all over Scotland. Daniel and Rex gave me a wonderful insight into whiskey of all kinds. Thank you 😊
Thanks Daniel for the brain cleanse of all of the crap that is out there. Your enthusiasm for whiskey/life is refreshing. Enjoy your drink with your dad. Cheers.
I was at a whiskey bar here having dinner and I ordered 'Lagavulin' and I was handed a highball glass 3/4 full of a completely clear liquid. I was confused so I asked politely, 'This is Lagavulin?' And she says, 'OH! I thought you asked for A BIG OLD GIN! Boy did she deliver! I had to send it back as Im not much for gin but we all had a good laugh and she was well tipped.
I'm from a very rural area in upstate NY. It's where Labats Blue and Jack Daniels are considered top shelf. And people drink to get drunk. Having been gone for a couple decades I started visiting home a few times a year. Most bars I go into do not know what a neat pour is. Very few even have anything beyond a big 3oz shot glass. It's amazing when you get a bartender of 15+ years experience that has never heard the term a finger of Scotch or asked if it's okay to put your Dewar's (always the best available) in a red cup
Some of my favorite old whiskey vault episodes were the Rexweek/month/year poor man’s blends episodes, including the Longmorn 16. This vid brought back all the good old memories. 🥃😄
In case you are searching for Longmorn in Scotland, in their shop, Strathisla distillery in Keith sells a number of single barrel or small batch older versions of Longmorn. Strathisla and Longmorn are both products of Chivas Brothers but the Longmorn distillery is not open for visitors as of about a year ago. It is a rare treat to compare versions of Longmorn as Daniel does here. In the past, I have found that Jack Rose Saloon in DC offers a number of independent bottlings of Longmorn.
i was in Scotland about a year ago and essentially did a tour of the entire country. i was looking very diligently for the older bottling of Longmorn 16 but could not find it. i was however, able to find a Longmorn 14 Y/O bottled by Gordon Macphail. it was quite good.
I've got 2 of these in the bunker based on Daniel's previous videos about Longmorn 16 year. Maybe Daniel could explain what is going on with pricing at Longmorn. The discontinued 16 year and the new 18 & 22 year are just so very expensive than the ones from years ago.
I introduced a squadmate to laphroaig 10 yesterday. He previouspy had only ever drank shit like seltzers and fireball. I blew his mind with a quality scotch.
Have yet to explore the world of Scotch. I’ve really enjoyed a couple of peated American Single Malts I’ve tried though. Where should I start without dropping a lot of cash?
Depending on the type of whisky you like, maybe Balvenie, Oban 14, Bunnahabhain 12, or Aberlour? Those are all different, but take you in various flavor profiles.
I'm an Islay fan, and I've never really delved into Speyside scotch yet because I haven't been too keen on the super fruity notes I always hear about. But jasmine and floral? Anyone here got any recommendations for more floral Speysides they like? Because that sounds great
@@arstenebrous4599 there's an official flora and fauna release from diageo, but you can probably get better versions of them from independents, happy hunting and hope you find one!
Longmorn is such a lovely dram and it is a shame finding it as a single malt is difficult. It's fault, if there was one, lies in its ability to be so easily blended. My Longmorn moment was finding an old 90s bottling of the 15 year old (which predates the earlier 16 year old), in a little country bottle store 5-6 years ago. The 15 year old had hints of chocolate, orange with a certain savoury meatiness and, a lovely mouth feel. I shared it with friends, those I wanted to befriend and frankly, those who just showed an interest. So, it didnt last long. It was a great expression that I was lucky to have for a time.
Lived in the UK for a few years and never found Longmorn 16. Came back to the US and found a random liquor store in the countryside that had 3 bottles of Longmorn 16. Grabbed one bottle and loved it. Went back to that shop 2 months later. Still 2 bottles. Snagged it again. Eventually bought all three and just love it! Doubt I will find it again…
So i am a travelling bartender in the UK spent 2 years in Pitlochry literally down the road from Blair Atholl distillery over the hill from Dewars and Aberfeldy. Like 40 min from Dalwinnie honestly some of the best years of my life.
Glenfiddich 21 was my and my dad's first foray into single malt scotch. Would love to see you do something on that phenomenal dram in honor of my pops. Pre-2010 bottles are noticeably better than current product - bonus points if you can find one! Everything you mention about the differences between the older product and the newer editions holds true.
One of my favourite Longmorn stories is about how Masataka Taketsuru interned there when he was studying in Scotland. When he finally built Nikka, the still dimensions were almost an exact copy of Longmorn. As the story goes, Taketsuru would get the Master distiller to pose for a photo next to the still and then a while later, he would bring up the topic of how tall the distiller was.
I had a cheap gimmick whisky, Gambler 500 that had an amazing black pepper flavor. They did another release later that completely lost it. Now I can't find anything with that black pepper flavor. When I mention my desire for that flavor in whisky to people they look at me like I just dropped a fly in their coffee. I would soooooooo love a black pepper+heavy peated smoke. I have just had no luck. Anyone with recommendations let me know
I had a similar "come to jesus" moment with a glass of Laphroiag a friend bought me at my birthday party 32 years ago at a restaurant in Seattle. I had only had the normal Glenlivet, Glenfidditch and Glenmorangie in college. I had never had an Islay Scotch and it blew my mind. Still love it.
The Start of my Whisky journey was a Longmorn too😅. It was an IB from van Wees, The Ultimate, 1996 Longmorn 17yo Sherry Butt. It blew me away and i started to exploring the World of Malt Whisky. Longmorn always will have a special Place on my Palate and in my still growing Stash😅 Greets from Germany, 😎🤘
Daniel, Dramface is Roy's (Aquavite's) pet project. Anyway My epiphany single malt whisky was Balvenie 12 Doublewood. ( I had tried Laphroig 10) which scared me away for years. When I realized Scotch had such diversity of flavors blew my mind.
Not my first scotch, but the first Longmorn after drinking another 15 y.o. Longmorn scotch (bottled by Gordon & MacPhail, purchased in Edinburgh that couldn't be obtained stateside)... ISO a replacement. In fact, one of your earlier videos re: Longmorn 16 (the one you are opening here) motivated me to search for the "first" Longmorn 16 (no longer available) based on your glowing review. I have since enjoyed a couple of bottles of (the newer) Longmorn 16, and recently picked up Longmorn 18. A great pour each and every time! In short, damn good scotch and a great recommendation for special occasions.
nonsense you haven't talked about it enough. This is one of the only whiskeys I've had (old version and new) that the hype doesn't do the whiskey enough justice. it's fucking magic in a glass, this and black art 6.1 are the only two whiskeys I tried to enjoy sparingly so they could last long and then accidentally finished way too fast.
That's Amazing. I love this. Mainly because I took have heard you talk about it. I even remember some tribe video of you getting the old Longmorn 16 as a gift. Maybe I watch too much. Eh, thank you for another great conversation 🥃
I have an idea for a Monday episode series. You can call it "A Case for the Mondays", as a play on words for 'someone has a case of the Mondays'. The idea is that someone picks a random collection of 6 whiskeys, roughly a case. Then you have to try to blend them, on the fly, to make a tasty dram. What do you think?
Thank you for the A/B comparison. I had the same experience as you did. I found the brown/green version 15 years ago and fell in love with it and nobody knew what it was. I found a second bottle and nursed not for a while. When I went to replace that I ncould only find the new purple version and had the same reaction, although not as nuanced as your analysis, that the new was still good but just not the same as the one I fell in love with. I’m still keeping an eye out for another of the older bottles. I had a similar experience with my first “WOW!” bottle, a 25 year old Bowmore from about the same 2010 time period. That one had a complex, evolving finish that lasted forever. I actually gave mor away than I drank as I wanted others to experience it. When I went to replace it, they never lived up to the experience 😥
we were actualliy talking about a blending option at one point. But it's such a heavy lift for production and shooting schedule. Still considering it though!
They had to split between channels a little while back. The video “End of the Road” on the Whiskey Tribe channel explains everything. They’re still good friends, it was purely business.
You need to go back a year - the two had to split for legal and tax reasons so the school could stay non-profit and crowded barrel could expand on the bigger things.
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Might be worth starting a "drinks with my dad" section about people's stories and bonds formed between son and father over whiskey. I'd love to contribute!
I fully support the idea! Your excellent story reminds us all of sharing whisky with our Dad and with special and dear friends who have touched our lives. Just for reference, Ralfy talked about whisky with his Dad when he reviewed the Bunnahabain 12
My first Scotch experience was a Johnny Walker Red. My neighbor always had it handy. He was a retired Navy Commander. I have since become more educated through the Whiskey Vault since Covid. Depending on my mood, I can taste various Scotches from all over Scotland. Daniel and Rex gave me a wonderful insight into whiskey of all kinds. Thank you 😊
Thanks Daniel for the brain cleanse of all of the crap that is out there. Your enthusiasm for whiskey/life is refreshing. Enjoy your drink with your dad. Cheers.
I was at a whiskey bar here having dinner and I ordered 'Lagavulin' and I was handed a highball glass 3/4 full of a completely clear liquid. I was confused so I asked politely, 'This is Lagavulin?' And she says, 'OH! I thought you asked for A BIG OLD GIN! Boy did she deliver! I had to send it back as Im not much for gin but we all had a good laugh and she was well tipped.
This is amazing
I'm from a very rural area in upstate NY. It's where Labats Blue and Jack Daniels are considered top shelf. And people drink to get drunk.
Having been gone for a couple decades I started visiting home a few times a year. Most bars I go into do not know what a neat pour is. Very few even have anything beyond a big 3oz shot glass. It's amazing when you get a bartender of 15+ years experience that has never heard the term a finger of Scotch or asked if it's okay to put your Dewar's (always the best available) in a red cup
hahaha - how far from Lockport are you?!
@@mikeh720 about 45 min east of Syracuse... So 3-4 hrs from Niagara
Some of my favorite old whiskey vault episodes were the Rexweek/month/year poor man’s blends episodes, including the Longmorn 16. This vid brought back all the good old memories. 🥃😄
The first Scotch I ever tried was Glenlivet and I still drink it as well as having a bottle of it in my cabinet to this day 🥃
In case you are searching for Longmorn in Scotland, in their shop, Strathisla distillery in Keith sells a number of single barrel or small batch older versions of Longmorn. Strathisla and Longmorn are both products of Chivas Brothers but the Longmorn distillery is not open for visitors as of about a year ago. It is a rare treat to compare versions of Longmorn as Daniel does here. In the past, I have found that Jack Rose Saloon in DC offers a number of independent bottlings of Longmorn.
I have also found it @ Royal Mile Whiskies, 379 High St, Edinburgh. Thank you to Steven who spent a good bit of time introducing me to scotch.
Mine was Sherry Cask Macallan 12.
i was in Scotland about a year ago and essentially did a tour of the entire country. i was looking very diligently for the older bottling of Longmorn 16 but could not find it. i was however, able to find a Longmorn 14 Y/O bottled by Gordon Macphail. it was quite good.
Too much? Or, enough that some people are hearing the message and finding the message worth listening to?
If there ever was an example of the butterfly effect. ... It's Daniel having a pour of Longmorn
I've got 2 of these in the bunker based on Daniel's previous videos about Longmorn 16 year. Maybe Daniel could explain what is going on with pricing at Longmorn. The discontinued 16 year and the new 18 & 22 year are just so very expensive than the ones from years ago.
This goes into Chivas Regal and it has been hinted that they put quite a bit of it in Chivas Regal 18 which is a pretty good blended Scotch.
My first was either Johnnie Walker black label or Glenlivet 12. I think I liked both of them but I don’t remember which I tried first.
DARN… I have decided not to buy anymore whisky for a while. Longmorn 16 is on my list and it is available here… Now I have to buy 😅 Only had the 18.
Geez the 16 is still available in my market. The older expression for 176€😮
My first Scotch was Balvenie 12...
I'll have to settle for a Distillery 7 SMWS pour... cheers! 🍻
abunadh was my first scotch and now all i want is barrel strength whiskeys..i dont even bother with anything less than 100 abv lol
Cheers 🥃
I'm so sad to see this go. Gonna nurse what little I have left of my bottle.
I introduced a squadmate to laphroaig 10 yesterday.
He previouspy had only ever drank shit like seltzers and fireball.
I blew his mind with a quality scotch.
Have yet to explore the world of Scotch. I’ve really enjoyed a couple of peated American Single Malts I’ve tried though. Where should I start without dropping a lot of cash?
Depending on the type of whisky you like, maybe Balvenie, Oban 14, Bunnahabhain 12, or Aberlour? Those are all different, but take you in various flavor profiles.
What was the website that you referenced? Dram something???
Dramface
I'm an Islay fan, and I've never really delved into Speyside scotch yet because I haven't been too keen on the super fruity notes I always hear about. But jasmine and floral? Anyone here got any recommendations for more floral Speysides they like? Because that sounds great
Benrinnes is a great example of a floral whisky, but it may be hard to get hold of one depending on where you are
@@justinwanhk thanks for the recommendation! I'll see if my local store can't order a bottle. They're generally pretty great about doing so.
@@arstenebrous4599 there's an official flora and fauna release from diageo, but you can probably get better versions of them from independents, happy hunting and hope you find one!
I'll let y'all take this wherever......MY first Scotch is Naked Grouse Single Malt.
What happened to Rex Williams
He’s running the distillery (and Tribe channel) now, and had to step away from the (non profit) Vault channel for tax reasons
I keep seeing Longmorn pop up on peoples lists but its rarer than a unicorn, this video explained why... sigh😢
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Longmorn is such a lovely dram and it is a shame finding it as a single malt is difficult. It's fault, if there was one, lies in its ability to be so easily blended.
My Longmorn moment was finding an old 90s bottling of the 15 year old (which predates the earlier 16 year old), in a little country bottle store 5-6 years ago.
The 15 year old had hints of chocolate, orange with a certain savoury meatiness and, a lovely mouth feel.
I shared it with friends, those I wanted to befriend and frankly, those who just showed an interest. So, it didnt last long.
It was a great expression that I was lucky to have for a time.
Lived in the UK for a few years and never found Longmorn 16. Came back to the US and found a random liquor store in the countryside that had 3 bottles of Longmorn 16. Grabbed one bottle and loved it. Went back to that shop 2 months later. Still 2 bottles. Snagged it again. Eventually bought all three and just love it! Doubt I will find it again…
Brings out bottle of original Longmorn 16 ... ((sharp intake of breath!)) ... a unicorn in real life!!!
I get all excited that I can drink the longmorn 16 with you and you go and pull out unobtainium. damn you! 🤣
So i am a travelling bartender in the UK spent 2 years in Pitlochry literally down the road from Blair Atholl distillery over the hill from Dewars and Aberfeldy. Like 40 min from Dalwinnie honestly some of the best years of my life.
I still have 3/4 of a bottle in my stash.
Glenfiddich 21 was my and my dad's first foray into single malt scotch. Would love to see you do something on that phenomenal dram in honor of my pops. Pre-2010 bottles are noticeably better than current product - bonus points if you can find one! Everything you mention about the differences between the older product and the newer editions holds true.
This may sound strange but I prefer the Glenfiddich 18 to the 21 and like the 15 (for value) as much as the 18.
Welcome all Whiskey Vaulters to the Story of Firsts with Daniel!
One of my favourite Longmorn stories is about how Masataka Taketsuru interned there when he was studying in Scotland. When he finally built Nikka, the still dimensions were almost an exact copy of Longmorn.
As the story goes, Taketsuru would get the Master distiller to pose for a photo next to the still and then a while later, he would bring up the topic of how tall the distiller was.
Been trying to find this, I feel dumb for not buying the 20 when I was in Dallas.
I had a cheap gimmick whisky, Gambler 500 that had an amazing black pepper flavor. They did another release later that completely lost it. Now I can't find anything with that black pepper flavor. When I mention my desire for that flavor in whisky to people they look at me like I just dropped a fly in their coffee. I would soooooooo love a black pepper+heavy peated smoke. I have just had no luck. Anyone with recommendations let me know
I had a similar "come to jesus" moment with a glass of Laphroiag a friend bought me at my birthday party 32 years ago at a restaurant in Seattle.
I had only had the normal Glenlivet, Glenfidditch and Glenmorangie in college. I had never had an Islay Scotch and it blew my mind. Still love it.
The Start of my Whisky journey was a Longmorn too😅.
It was an IB from van Wees, The Ultimate, 1996 Longmorn 17yo Sherry Butt.
It blew me away and i started to exploring the World of Malt Whisky.
Longmorn always will have a special Place on my Palate and in my still growing Stash😅
Greets from Germany, 😎🤘
Daniel, Dramface is Roy's (Aquavite's) pet project. Anyway My epiphany single malt whisky was Balvenie 12 Doublewood. ( I had tried Laphroig 10) which scared me away for years. When I realized Scotch had such diversity of flavors blew my mind.
Not my first scotch, but the first Longmorn after drinking another 15 y.o. Longmorn scotch (bottled by Gordon & MacPhail, purchased in Edinburgh that couldn't be obtained stateside)... ISO a replacement. In fact, one of your earlier videos re: Longmorn 16 (the one you are opening here) motivated me to search for the "first" Longmorn 16 (no longer available) based on your glowing review. I have since enjoyed a couple of bottles of (the newer) Longmorn 16, and recently picked up Longmorn 18. A great pour each and every time!
In short, damn good scotch and a great recommendation for special occasions.
As I watched this I poured d myself a 16 year old Caol Ila. Thanks for reminding me of my favorite scotch thus far in my Scotch Whisky journey.
I really love this distillery too! I love the 16 (old version). But everything the produce are just awesome!
nonsense you haven't talked about it enough. This is one of the only whiskeys I've had (old version and new) that the hype doesn't do the whiskey enough justice. it's fucking magic in a glass, this and black art 6.1 are the only two whiskeys I tried to enjoy sparingly so they could last long and then accidentally finished way too fast.
That's Amazing. I love this. Mainly because I took have heard you talk about it. I even remember some tribe video of you getting the old Longmorn 16 as a gift. Maybe I watch too much. Eh, thank you for another great conversation 🥃
I noticed that lately, you appear here by yourself on this channel. 😮
My “first” was some bog standard Dewars “borrowed” from my parents’ cabinet
I can get the new version at bordershop Puttgarden, cost 120 dollar.
I've had the newest 16 on my shelf for a while, maybe time to try it out.
Wonderful review!!❤
Welcome to my first algorithm 😂
Interesting story 😂
sounds so interesting
Cheers
Longmorn has become one of my favourite distilleries. So many amazing expressions.
I have an idea for a Monday episode series. You can call it "A Case for the Mondays", as a play on words for 'someone has a case of the Mondays'. The idea is that someone picks a random collection of 6 whiskeys, roughly a case. Then you have to try to blend them, on the fly, to make a tasty dram. What do you think?
So you're saying Longmorn Scotch helped you "see what could be, unencumbered by what has been"?
(I'm sorry...😞. But someone was going to say it...😆)
Thank you for the A/B comparison. I had the same experience as you did. I found the brown/green version 15 years ago and fell in love with it and nobody knew what it was. I found a second bottle and nursed not for a while. When I went to replace that I ncould only find the new purple version and had the same reaction, although not as nuanced as your analysis, that the new was still good but just not the same as the one I fell in love with. I’m still keeping an eye out for another of the older bottles.
I had a similar experience with my first “WOW!” bottle, a 25 year old Bowmore from about the same 2010 time period. That one had a complex, evolving finish that lasted forever. I actually gave mor away than I drank as I wanted others to experience it. When I went to replace it, they never lived up to the experience 😥
we were actualliy talking about a blending option at one point. But it's such a heavy lift for production and shooting schedule. Still considering it though!
Where is your friend …. ??
They had to split between channels a little while back. The video “End of the Road” on the Whiskey Tribe channel explains everything.
They’re still good friends, it was purely business.
You need to go back a year - the two had to split for legal and tax reasons so the school could stay non-profit and crowded barrel could expand on the bigger things.
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