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Europa Uuniversalis 5, known as 'Project Ceasar' is coming!
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the hussite wars
avarage Chinese war:
"Nooooo you cannot rebell against me while I controll the child emperor!"
"Haha peasants go brrrrrrr"
You forgot the 16.7 million perish part of it
@@bigw722 thats obvious at this point
@@bigw722 only 16.7? thats just a minor skrimish
Dominium Maris Baltici - string of wars involving mostly Sweden, PLC, russia and danemark spanning over 100 years
Even 150
(Quietly insert that Sabaton CD)
You're talking about the Northern Wars, right?
@@Korfax124 yeah but i don't even know in which language he write it's name
@@Korfax124 the Great Northern War was the final conflict of that
Smallpox spreading in the Americas will definitely be another situation. Making the continent incredibly easy to conquer after that.
The conquest didn't happen because of the disease those came right after. The "conquest" was a revolt of vassals against the Aztecs / Inca, and then they were wiped out by disease allowing the mestizo children of the Spanish + Native nobility to come in and inherit the land + surviving native nobles kept their priviliges and land.
Would love to see what happens when smallpox turned off. Would the natives fight back?
@@the11382 The Spanish would've been unable to consolidate power.
"fight back" is a misnomber, there is nothing to fight back to, its like complaining a royal house in Europe changed lineage, they didn't care as long as their privilegies are guaranteed.
@@celdur4635 is that supposed to be a consolation prize? we just massacred ur entire land and peoples, here's the land for those who were complacent toward Spanish rule.
@@celdur4635 also, the majority of the rebellions were initiated because a foreign power ruled over them, let me guess, you're one of those "by right of conquest" people.
War of the Roses, Religious Wars in France, Northern Wars, Netherlands Independence/Wars, Colonial conflicts, big succession wars, 7 Years war, etc
It could be awesome if they make some general mechanics for things like inheritance wars, or the 7years war, but not in a country specific way, but as a general event.
Like if any gr8 power would get a PU over another, like the Franco-Spanish I heritance war, a situation triggers so other powers might join
War of the Roses will be a disaster at least he said so in the dev diary responses. I would also thing that the French wars of Religion is going to be a disaster or be a part of a larger Situation called "The Reformation" for example with France having its unique events in this Situation.
Edit : Situations that have been confirmed in the dev responses are Wars of Religion, The Collapse of the Delhi Sultanate, Hussite Wars ,a Protestant Reformation Situation , Columbian Exchange Situation and a Revolution Situation specifically he mentioned the French Revolution. He also said that right now there are 13 situation already finished.
War of the roses and religious wars seem more like disasters to me as they only affect a single country
Celali rebellions in Ottomans
Thirteen Years' War and the Prussian Confederation
7:30 I think you’re spot on with what you said. I hope you understand why a lot of us are nervous about this release. As I’ve said before, I would genuinely pay full price ($70) for a game that has the amount of flavor and detail these talks hint at. I know Paradox doesn’t like to do this, but if they sold a full price game with free updates I think that would be soooo good in the long run and lifespan of this game.
I’m glad they haven’t announced anything concrete yet, and truthfully I hope we get something far away like a 2027 release date. I’m getting more and more excited for this though :3
Whenever they hype something this much it ends up being terrible
Dlcs will be coming out till 2035
There's no way the game will have free updates, at least not unless you're expecting to buy EU6 soon.
Long term development and patches/updates need funding, and if they're not getting that via DLC sales, or a subscription service fee, they'd be better off putting EU5's sales into EU6 development instead.
I would love to see if paradox adds a modifier for Mansa Musa, as the inflation and drop in the price of gold he caused with his pilgrimage to Mecca should still be present to some extent, especially in the middle east, that would be a lot of work for the paradox team though so it's very much understandable if such a minor factor wouldn't be considered for the game.
-5% tax income until XXXX
It is present in eu4 with Mali mission tree but it outrageously expensive to do as Mali
I am waiting for Hussite wars situation. Where factions can be bohemian hussites and catholic league. Poland have a chance in this event while they could claim the Bohemin throne.
The situations feature seems very cool, closer to the ck3 unique cultural mechanics for iberia and persia then vicky 3's journal entries or stellaris' situations, which is a big big plus. One thing about the italian wars: the big defining element for italian foreing policy at the time was the balance of power; most italian states hated the invaders just as much as they hated each other, this then led to much much side switching as it was basically always a coalition war against the strongest power that year (one year it could be venice, the next it could be france, the one after spain, etc). I'm not saying that johan should add such a cyclical mechanic, but I do hope that the three italian leagues are gonna have pleanty of reasons to hate and fight each other just as much as the french, imperial and iberian leagues. ( And I also do hope for opportunistic side switching for the league members, as this would put some difference between the gameplay of league leaders who need to keep the members happy and the members who are gambling on who will win the next war and are trying to gain as much as possible for themselves)
It's a little bit strange, that paradox talk so much about Italian leagues and confirm that it would be 100 years war as situation, but denies to implement deluge for Commonwealth, which involves, cossacks rebellion with creating new country, war with Muscovy and war with Sweden, IMHO, this chain of events decides fate of eastern Europe for decades
Also, now in eu4 there no mechanic for register cossacks and no flavor for Zaporizhian Sich, interesting, will Paradox include this in eu 5, or no(cause there was approximately 17 cossacks rebels, from 16th to 18th century, it's like revolt every 10 years!)
I think it's a bit far in the future (300 years after the start date), so it would take extremely railroaded AI to ensure that the conditions for it to trigger would be met. Not to mention that barely anyone plays into the 1700s in eu4, so why bother making content for launch that few people will enjoy?
I think (Early) Ottoman Expansion situation should be a situation with Catholic & Orthodox nations having the option to send crusades to support Byzantium, Christian nations neighbouring the Ottomans having the option to fight the Ottomans or join them as loyal vassal (and maybe later switch back allegiance during a crusade).
Another situation would be the 100 years war involving countries in the regions of France, Great Britain and Ireland, where each party will have the choice of picking and switching a side (like the Duke of Burgundy) or sitting on the fence.
Another situation: the Deluge/Partitioning of Poland.
I think deluge can't be it's own situation as it was a part of nordic wars
The Hundred Years War is mentioned in the dev diary as a situation
Pretty sure he confirmed that the Anatolian Struggle is a situation in the comments, but he gave literally zero details
The "treaty of tordesilhas" situation: after the discovery of the new world by an X number of European Countries: dividing and giving claims on the America continent based not only on discovery, but on the amount of papal influence those countries have.
As an event leading to the reformation, which I imagine will be implemented as a situation, I think this one might struggle to find room to run on it's own: Martin Luther is alive when Tordesillas is signed, after all.
Regardless of whether it would work as a "situation", I absolutely love the idea that Tordesillas might be dynamic in each playthrough - and it might even be able to become a key issue in the evolving Reformation situation.
The fall of majapahit and the rise of Islam in Indonesia would be interesting
Idk if theyve talked about it already but i hope theres 2 way peace deals like in victoria
cant wait to pay $60 for the game then waiting 2 years and paying $200 more for the game to not be a buggy mess!!!
And for it to still be less feature complete than EU4 was 5 years ago
@@TheGreatDanish Just wait till the people who dont get paid by paradox to play it before you buy
then dont pay for it lmao
📩 Hoist The Black Flag: How can Paradox charge us $1000 for a game over 10 years? It’s time to hoist the black flag and declare a Pirate Bay Republic!
@@Podzhagitel this guy gets it
I think that the American Revolution should be a situation. It should have the American colonies trying to convince great powers to support their independence. Side note: I would like for the ability to change the music that occurs at start-up. Listening to the same song over hundreds of instances of opening the game gets old fast.
The East Coast should be small nations under the English crown. When the American revolution fires, the IO should have varying number of states joining, up to 18(13 + Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Quebec and both Floridas). The number of stripes on the flag should reflect the number of states, so an alternate USA with 18 stripes is possible. The articles of confederation should be an IO that allows the USA to be formable as a single nation.
@@the11382exactly. Colonial states shouldn't be that big as in eu4 and they should be able to ally and consolidate much easier than in eu4
@@arekzawistowski2609 They were big historically though. Viceroyalty of New Spain encompassed all of Mexico 2/3rds of continental USA, Venezuela, caribians, philipisns and guam.
@@Alaryk111 but you are talking about extreme example. 13 colonies, Caribbean islands or southern American were smaller. Colonial region system from EU4 should be abolished for more realistic solution
Ottoman expansion and rise of the timurid empire and it trying to conquer everything
it feels like Paradox realized releasing a game that is a good base but is effectively unfinished with little flavor is just not viable anymore a la Vicky 3, CK3, and Imperator Rome. All solid games with solid bases, but little replay value until DLC and mods make it worth playing. With the disaster that was Imperator Rome as well is the lack luster following of Vicky 3 they are putting alot more content on release as opposed to back loading it.
The Deluge, Partitions of Poland, Ming-Qing transition, Russian conquest of Siberia, Bolivarian wars of Independence, Napoleonic wars, Rise of the Ottomans.
Just some ideas.
Portugals starting the Discovery and Exploration Age in the late 1300s/early 1400s needs to be a situation/event of sort. Good opportunity to show when/how the European exploration age started.
I am wondering if each area will have a specific trade good similar to eu4, or if it is more flexible (like multiple trade goods and it could change depending on the building/development it received).
The hussite rebellion and subsequent crusades would be a sick situation for the hre / Poland / Lithuania
A very interesting incident would be de comuneros war in castille when the Habsburgs got power. A rivaldry betwen the flemish nobles of Carlos I and the replaced spanish nobles
Bohdan Khmelnytskii Cossack rebellion against the Commonwealth and the establishment of the Hetmanate as a situation
I think it's more like a distaster if we follow Johan's definitions
Partitions of Poland could be another late-game situation.
@@Sidneymoch real
The little ice age?
Good idea. It is present in eu4 but hard to notice as there are only events.
Time of troubles be like
Muscovy: a new heir!
Poland-Lithuania: oh.. i don't think so...
Why are cultures are so differently colored? French-like cultures at least should look partially blue!
Maybe the War of the Spanish Succession 1701-1714?
EU4: Ming without player is always collapsing
EU5: All no-player nations of the Old World will be always collapsing by Black Death
Or
EU4: Three Montains is much harder, than it was in previous DLCs
EU5: Ryukyu will paint a map after Black Death
I think eu5 will have a lot of content at release, compared to ck3 and vic3. The reason is because eu4 is all about the content. It isn't rp focused like ck or economy focused like vic.
At release ck3 was already a great rp game, and vic3, despite issues with war, government and other stuff, the economy system was solid. The content came later. Vic 3 needed it more than ck3, which was already a fun game to play if you liked the rp part mainly. I enjoyed it at release, sans any dlc.
Eu4's biggest feature is the breadth of experience you get, you need lots of different content and diverse content for that. So I'm not surprised they're including so much content at release compared to the other releases.
@ZlewikkTV yeah! Dymitriads but also polish elections as well!
Dymitriads - supporting different factions in the muscovite times of troubles - muscovite nobles 1 2 3 etc, cossac ones, polish magnates, polish crown, swedes. at first support for a "better dimitri", but if support strong enough, promote a non-dimitri candidate (vide Vladislav IV Vasa or even his father ;) ). factions gaining score by battles, control of muscovite land, diplomatic actions (influencing Boyars and separately ortho church), occupation of cities like Moscow, Smolensk, Novgorod. (separate form holding land!). Poland occupied Moscow for 2 years and had not lost a battle yet, Boyars promoted Vladislav, but polish crown selfpromoted Sigismund himself, which gave time for other muscovite candidate to consolidate and win over boyar support. While as we remember, dimitriads began with: polish magnates and cossac dmitri, cossac dmitri, boyar dmitri, and then King of Poland himself came to propose himself and boyars decided to support polish kings son.
similarly elections for polish crown mostly happened on the moment when Sejm Elekcyjny was summoned after last kings death or resignation (valois). Mostly at that moment is when candidates would appear and be promoted. sure some were promoted silently during previous kings reign, but it was never decisive. so during Elective Sejm, you could have diplomatic action at first, then a succession war among candidates who earned at least 20% support. - magnate armies popping up with their candidates or biggest supporters as generals. Like Sigismund III Vasas election was not without contestation, as magnates supporting one (out of 3!!!) of Habsburg candidates raised an army which had to be defeated by Sigismund supporters. Like this shouldnt be just any pretender rebel, but fleshed out mechanic of internal and external diplomacy which could result in rising of one or multiple pretenders in strength of which you could have indirect influence upon. like, through forreign influence you could prevent a candidate, or during fights severely weakening him by making forreign support end. and you can choose, as polish or forreign player, what candidate you support and what kind of post election relations they offer - Sboeiskis son was promised french support, which never came and we got saxons and being juniors to saxony. then sweden supported Leszczynski, which would offer vassalage/client to Sweden, and then again client status of poniatovski towards russia.
I think that Ottoman expansion in Europe should be a situation, as IRL it was a situation that, besides the Ottomans and Byzantines, also heavily involved the other Balkan nations, Italian maritime republics, the Pope, Hungary, and realistically all of Eastern Europe and even parts of Western Europe. Realistically, the Ottomans should probably be getting some pretty tremendous buffs in the early game, particularly to their numbers (they clearly had armies that dwarfed those of even major regional powers like Hungary, even if we take exaggeration by Christian sources into account) and their ability to core new lands (their administration was very efficient), but also the ability to form leagues by the resisting Balkan powers, call crusades by Catholic powers (and perhaps even Orthodox ones on good terms with the Pope), and force disasters upon the Ottomans (like the damage imposed by Timur and Vlad Dracul, or the various civil wars they fought in the period).
Ultimately, I think this issue should be able to end in several ways. The most obvious is the IRL version of Ottoman victory and smashing all the way into Hungary and the gates of Vienna, but there should also be specific victory outcomes for Hungary, Venice, and the local powers, since each of them ultimately had at least some level of designs on the whole region, and probably a special one for Byzantium, since we Paradox fans love restoring Byzantium. There should also be a scenario in which an outside power takes over, since EU4 players often rush the Balkans to nerf the Ottomans and expand for low AE, and Austria, Russia, and even France, Aragon, and the Timurids could reasonably take over in player hands before 1453. There should also probably be different levels/kinds of Ottoman victory where the territory is better or worse integrated (like IRL it was poorly integrated, hence all the states breaking away later and such, but it was in service of short term benefits like higher jizya tax and forced conscription of locals, so there should be at least short term benefits to lower integration), and maybe a scenario where the Ottomans go all in for becoming the third Rome and convert to Orthodoxy (unlikely, but a lot of people play Orthomans so it's a way to add flavor to something players will definitely do at some point).
30 years war should be actually set in the 1600 as the conflicts in the 1500 were more with a religious background... so it should rather be separate: a Schmalkaldic war ended with some form of the treaty of Augsburg and a 30 years war that ends with a westphalian treaty... which does decide how centralized the HRE will be...
Various smaller countries wanting to join the PLC would be a good mechanic as many people wanted to have their freedom granted by its system, just look at Prussia, Moldavia and Mazovia as examples. Maybe it would be possible to make some Silesian duchies join...
a potential DLC sittuation: Dai Viet unification under emperor Quang Trung, involves Qing, Siam, (French) and the Black Flag Army
The struggle between France and England in America (both canada war and USA independence war) and the subsequent naval struggle between england and the USA would be really interesting. The EU4 version is too short. Naval struggles would be amazing between the different colonial powers in general.
anbennar devs are gonna COOK with the situations if they make a mod for eu5. Too bad that will be at least half a decade from now
This comment made me harder than a WC.
Partitions of poland xD
The Nanbokuchou - The Japanese Southern court in Nara (Emperor) vs the rising Northern court in Kyoutou (Ashikaga Shogunate)!
How about there being a situation related to the hanseatic control over the baltic/scandinavian trade and/or the crowns of scandinavia? I believe that countering the Hansa historically was a major reason for the nobles agreeing to the formation of the Kalmar Union. And there were conflicts involving the Danish crown, the Hansa, Sweden and its nobles (probably also Danish and perhaps Norwegian ones as well at some point) both before and after the Union's formation. Pirates could also be added as a factor.
But perhaps this would be better simulated through some other mechanic instead; its hard for me to say.
ONE of their diseases... So smallpox is going to make an appearance in the Americas I guess... It's going to be interesting how we can actually wage biological warfare in this game xD
Maybe if ottoman army enters any Hre province after a certain a year a great league assembles
The ottomans containment / varna crusade would be a good situation.
Sure, Time of troubles as EU4 refers to this event, should definetely be part of this new system. But, since we are now talking about grand scale Events for multiple countries, prdx pretty much have to add rokosz Zebrzydowskiego as a part of it, explaining why mr.Vasa waited so long to intervene directly.
Time to make François Ier rule Italia as he should
Not a Situation necessarily, but it would be awesome having something representing the Jesuit Missions in the new world (like an individual political entity)
I am concerned about railroading, what happens when someone conquers Italy before 1494?
I hope they make rise of Timur OP as he was OP irl
with regard to the situations and the colonization of the Americas, things like Pontiac's rebellion or King Philip's War would actually be well-represented by situations, coalitions of colonial and indigenous forces against each other, with colonial sides including native allies as well
i wonder on how the improves engine would fare... but i still expect i'd need a computer upgrade to get it smooth.
for the trade goods there are inaccuracies (like olives as far north as Champagne!?)
I think there should be some mechanic regarding the Ki family of Korea. They held massive influence in both Yuan and Goryeo, and if things went differently they may even have become the Habsburgs of Asia. The most famous figure, Empress Ki, was a very prominent figure in the Yuan and played a large role during the red turban rebellions.
Posted 14:53 today
Portuguese war with the Malacca empire
Victoria 2 crisis mechanics yaaaay!
Don't have time to watch the video right now but the intro intrigued me
Time of Troubles would be a big one. Didn't think of that.
A big one for me is the religious leagues wars. In eu4 it's basically 2 big coalitions buying heads for 5-10y. Historically, it was multiple separate wars, with two of the biggest subsections being the Dutch vs the Spanish and the Protestants in the HRE vs the Emperor. Let's focus on the second one for a bit, though. France supported the Protestants in order to weaken the Emperor by sending money, and England sent a bit, too. The Ottomans took advantage of a weakened Eastern flank. After initially being led by German Protestants, Sweden took leadership in the war after Germany was ravaged. So it was really many separate wars with outside intervenes.
the league war is the 30 years war.
Another big event that should probably be included is the slave trade, but that could get a little strange to play if not done with tact
Johan said that will be a mechanic, not a situation
@@ZlewikkTVthat's interesting to hear. Very excited for this game, sounds like it has a lot of room for growth post launch, with a healthy amount of content in the base game.
Will something like the industrialisation or protestant reformation a situation or a different mechanic?
I want the German unification to be a situation. So if one country unites a larger portion of the german culture group and is under attack by a world power. Smaller German states with good relations can unite with this country forming a Norddeutscher Bund or similar. Obviously a late game situation around the time of revolution.
Imo any nationalism oriented things (spring of nations) aren't suitable for this timespan. Conquest of Germany can be a power issue in HRE but nothing connected with nationality.
Definetely situation worth of considering in my opinion is Rise of Timur. It would have been great event chain that would either unite the whole persia region under one empire or disunite it under multiple states. This type of events would be great for better immersion and change of order for the decades depending on actions we or AI takes.
I think situations are heavily inspired from the struggles in ck3, that is represent situations where multiple small countries along with a few powerful others fight for control over a region. But seeing as the Ilkhanate collapsed in 1335, and the Chagathai are very weak, it's basically a free-for-all situation in 1335 Persia
What background music do you use in your videos? :)
Still waiting to see if there is actual warfare in this game.
I would love to see something about the barbary pirates
The Tatar Yoke. Duchy of Muscovy/Moscow collects the tribute from all of the Russian principalities for the Golden Horde. You can try to unite the Rus' at least diplomatically and fight off the Hordes ofr fight for the domination in the realm.
This isn't probably a situation but a mechanic as it was shown already
The tatar yoke is already mentioned. It will be an international organization
Hell yeah!🔥
I know it would be super late game but it could be really cool to have a Haitian revolution situation
It can be part of Napoleonic/revolution wars. Same as Louisiana (or other birthplace of revolution colonies purchase.
@@arekzawistowski2609 ya im interested in mechanics that would influence other Caribbean nations as well as the American south
excited for new shogunate system eu4 shogunate not that good
Playing in Japan will be very interesting, historically this was a time the emperor was on top for few years, so not only you'll play Ashikaga to reestablish the Shogunate, be Japan to defend your divine rights and keep the samurai clans as loyal vassals with no autonomy
"THE GREEK COUNTRY AROUND BYZANTION WILL BE NAMED..." What the fuck in the manipulation is this option's name?
Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantium. If i understand that you really ask about it.
@@arekzawistowski2609 You didn't. They are manipulating your decision on the description of the question.
@@celdur4635 oh i get it now. You are right. It's almost 3:00 and it's not my first language. Sorry 😅
What decisions?
12:20 that'd be purely gold)
my 2 cents for a Situation: Guelphs vs Ghibellines in Italy (popeists vs imperialists)
Johan has already confirmed this is a situation
@@skanderbeg152 nice! Ty for the answer
The italian wars situation is pretty much that. There are 3 outside factions (french austrian and iberian) and 3 inside factions of random italians. The imperials are represented through the austrian faction and the popeists are represented through the french faction (the french were the primary help of the pope and historically the allies of the pope were also allies of france)
release date?
the game is not even announced yet :)
not buying another scam
The only thing I could maybe consider a scam is leviathan on release.
Funnily enough, I heard that Leviathan was the best selling eu4 dlc to date
@ZlewikkTV maybe, but i thought it was also the one that made the game unplayable by corrupting the save file very often and was very very buggy/ unbalanced? I may be thinking of another one. Also keep in mind I said on release, it was all fixed very soon after release.
@@skanderbeg152 yeah, the controversy and a lot of super op mechanics brought people to buy it
@@ZlewikkTVhow much did paradox bribe you for? 😂😂
I have played 1000h only in eu4, blatantly not hyped for the game
I finished the tutorial this week (after 3700h) so a new game would be a nice thing