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Looks like you're more than a finish carpenter, I'd say a true woodworker/furniture maker - even if you don't build furniture regularly clearly you have the skill and talent. Well done.
Its like daily medicine to watch your work sir.Although i was a carpenter and still am for 38 years .I was always good at the rough work.And rough on the good work lol.Stay safe .Keep living the dream cause it definitely gets me thru the day learning and admiring you work each and every project.
I have to say I enjoy watching your videos, I am a very seasoned woodworker and extreme high end kitchen cabinet and staircase installer. I’m always learning new things, not very often from watching others. Usually by trial and error. Our work is always perfection. Since watching your videos I have learned a few different techniques. This being one of them. Also the mortiser for drilling square holes. I always wanted a mortiser, but never had a real reason to spend the money. Recently had my first new staircase that used the iron stock balusters. It worked awesomely the treads and on the straight railings. I did run into a few issues with he angled railings, nothing that couldn’t be dealt with, just not perfect first try. Thank you, please keep doing these videos.
You and Richarf from finish carpentry tv are the best on finish carpentry .the amout of detail on your work makes you a true master, love your channel , never miss a single video, thumbs up insider carpenry for your great great work
I really like your explanation on using the track and table saw for getting repeatable widths. Gives me something to practice on to see if I can set up a jig on my mft/3 and get both cuts on my track saw.
I just used your method on some columns at work. Used plywood with a jobsite tablesaw and they turned out great. So it definitely is something you can do without fancy tools. Thanks for all your videos on this.
Good stuff Spencer. As usual. Oh, and thanks for validating my 45-1/2 degree technique. I always did that but didn't really think about it. It just made sense to me! Now I know must be doing it right!
Thank you very much for the explanation on your techniques. I strangely feel like my last comment sparked this video. But, your explanation is excellent and honestly answered my question. I'm using a couple lock miter bits on my router table and have had great results. I have always used a table saw for these types of jobs. I think you clearly answered my question. I think the problem I have had is using blue tape vs clear packing tape. I am doing 2 custom columns this week, and I will be using the HD clear tape.... LOL Thank you very much for your insight, and clear explanation. You kick serious ass my friend. I will keep you posted on the results....
Awesome vid and explanation, agreed, we use the freeborn lock miter bit in a SCMI CNC shaper, with power feed, did a massive fraternity that called for 5’x12’ walnut panels for walls, (mdf core) then there were beams on ceiling in a grid, beams were 12” wide by 12” tall, we miter locked the MDF, and I would recommend against that because the tongue was extremely fragile, installers pulled it off, but with that being said, running ply core through a miter lock I’m just not sure of the strength in tongue plus how well it would cut, Non the less miter folding is just as effective and gratifying at the end when the job is complete, nice job, that’ll be a killer bunk bed!
Always good info and good vids. Always showing his work and to the point. This is why I like watching your vids mainly because you don’t start acting like most clowns thinking it’s a reality tv show lol. Nice job.
I’ve been doing custom woodworking for the past 19 years now and I honestly can say you are fantastic at your job. Skills and knowledge is a true masters class. But as you know, every tool you display isn’t cheap and most of us can’t just go out and buy the tools you own. So what’s your Philosophy on buying tools and do you set a limit on the price you will or can pay. A good example is your deWalt cordless router, or should I say the 6 of them. I have one and it’s amazing, but I cat justify 6. Your lazar pointer tape measure which is awesome, is $142. For some guys that’s a days pay. I get the fact that without these tools you can’t do this level of work, especially by yourself. So how did you cross that line in your head and just buy the tool? What’s your annual budget on tools and how much would you say you have spent over time fir you shop and van? I would like to see some inside drone shots of those beams you made. What a great skill set to have.
Great work and thanks for sharing. Can we get some detail about the Core? I noticed some blocking inside the plywood. I bought a Dewalt cordless nailer for 50% off! I'm excited since I mostly work with softwoods.
First love your content, I’ve learned more from your videos than probably anywhere else. With that said, I think you would actually like making bunkbeds if you put the plywood aside and used actual hardwood. Yes the material cost goes up but your labor and satisfaction improve. You obviously don’t need to make them for your main source of income so if people want them, make them the way you want.
Great video... I did a test using this method on some PVC trim boards using just some CA glue. Turned out amazing and I couldn't break the joint. Gonna reinforce with some hidden screws for my project. Do you think CA glue/screw will hold up long term for exterior trim use?
Whenever you make such furniture as that bed, you should make plans/blueprints of it. It might be some sort of income. Anyway, very informative video and excellent job with these taped mitre joints.
So are you laminating a core material? Would like to see a video on this process if you are looking for content to produce in the future. Thanks for such a great channel.
Wow, looks fantastic. How does the 45.5 degree trick work in terms of surface area for glue? Do you use pva glue or something that expands to fill the gap? I would imagine the joint would be weak without adequate surface area so what am I missing? Thanks.
Its actually pretty good contact. TB1,2,or 3 work great. If you don't over cut the angle slightly you will never get a tight outside corner. So it kind of has to have a slight gap on the inside.
This looks great! I wanted to ask, what type of wood do you use for door and window casing? It looks like a finger jointed board, but I have not seen this in my local home store. It looks dead straight and flat so I want to use it. Your work comes out so beautifully!
Great job! I understand that you are painting the surface but if you were to stain it would the tape you used leave a residue that might effect the stain?
I use a 3 1/2 HP router in a router table I made myself and I have a power feed I use with it as well. This works for raised panel doors and style and rail door construction. I have well over 100 1/2" shank router bits I use for moldings and other decorative. And yes I am a 3rd generation woodworker, retired now and I have a large shop to work out of.
Nice work, sure wish I had a domino to do that type of pin, rather than a biscuit or dowel pegs... nice. But then again, pegs are cheap :) I use a vinyl tape, its super strong and has an adhesive that is strong but won't stick when you peel it off... its blue, not sure what it's called.
Awesome work man! You mentioned using the layout extension in sketchup for that rendering PDF. Which one exactly? Id love to be able to print out that document for my clients and myself during a build.
You can just export what your seeing on the screen as a 2d image file. Sometimes the lines are not as clear and and dark as what your seeing on the screen. You might also want to crop the image a little if it's not quite center. You can also just take screen shots and put them on one page like a collage. Also use the dimension lines with different angles looking at the piece. It takes a little more time, but saves some money for sure. I use a macbook and have numbers (spreadsheet program) to put the images on a blank sheet. You can create a table on the bottom of the page to make it look like an architectural drawings with information on the project as well.
I find it difficult to decide when I should make 'beams' like this using plywood or even thin solid-wood stock vs just using solid lumber...of course there is always a risk involved with using large pieces of solid wood (humidity, expansion/contraction)...
Hey. Great videos as always. Table saws for the workshop are expensive and require a lot os space . Do you rate the dewalt flexvolt portable table saw for this kind of precision. Cheers pal
Indeed. For that reason I put blocks on the inside. On a 4x4 post I’m not too worried. But on bigger and wider stuff I like to use blocks to keep things square.
My question and concern as well. Once that family out grows the Bunk Bed set up... seems this one will need cut with a sawzall to get it out of the house rendering it useless to any other family. ??
@@InsiderCarpentry I get that completely. It's not a dig on you. Shame your skill and efforts on the bed will be disposed of in only a few short years. But at last the customer gets what the customer wants.
I am planning to build a loft bed, can anyone shed some light to help me on choosing the material? Will legs made with two 2X4 sister lumber of pine or a miter fold of 3/4 plywood stronger? Also which one will be lighter? Thank you
This guy is using a high quality glue, accurate smooth cuts, and proper clamping . Lock mitre's (while strong) are not really much of a benefit in this application ( not to mention time consuming). That miter fold with glue is stronger than the joint. z
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Hello Spencer, who said you can’t teach an old dog new tricks, I’m eighty and have learned a few new tricks from your videos. Thanks from Canada 🇨🇦
I would never question this guy’s work he is definitely a craftsman
Looks like you're more than a finish carpenter, I'd say a true woodworker/furniture maker - even if you don't build furniture regularly clearly you have the skill and talent. Well done.
Its like daily medicine to watch your work sir.Although i was a carpenter and still am for 38 years .I was always good at the rough work.And rough on the good work lol.Stay safe .Keep living the dream cause it definitely gets me thru the day learning and admiring you work each and every project.
I appreciate that sir. At 38 years you've been doing carpentry longer than I've been alive. 👍
Skill level and followers/subscribers don’t always correlate. If they did, you’d have over a million subs by now...
Thanks man. I appreciate it. 👊
How do you say......"teach an old dog new tricks"! Many of us older folks don't do Instance Grahams! So thanks for sharing on YT.
This older video shows how much you need your new shop. More floor space!
I have to say I enjoy watching your videos, I am a very seasoned woodworker and extreme high end kitchen cabinet and staircase installer. I’m always learning new things, not very often from watching others. Usually by trial and error. Our work is always perfection. Since watching your videos I have learned a few different techniques. This being one of them. Also the mortiser for drilling square holes. I always wanted a mortiser, but never had a real reason to spend the money. Recently had my first new staircase that used the iron stock balusters. It worked awesomely the treads and on the straight railings. I did run into a few issues with he angled railings, nothing that couldn’t be dealt with, just not perfect first try.
Thank you, please keep doing these videos.
That’s awesome. 👊
Thank you so much for this explanation. When ever someone questions me again on why I do what I do. I'll play this for them and get back to work.
You are the best carpenter I have ever seen. Always thinking about how to improve.
You and Richarf from finish carpentry tv are the best on finish carpentry .the amout of detail on your work makes you a true master, love your channel , never miss a single video, thumbs up insider carpenry for your great great work
Always outstanding work and clear bare bones explanations.
Always enjoy your tutorials.
I really like your explanation on using the track and table saw for getting repeatable widths.
Gives me something to practice on to see if I can set up a jig on my mft/3 and get both cuts on my track saw.
45.5 degrees. Mind blown! Thank you!
Track saw to straighten then table saw to regulate width, smart sequencing. Kids love bunks...that's your future client base.
Thanks for that explanation that makes perfect sense. What took you years to learn is helping us out tremendously and I thank you!!!
Nice to have your expertise! And teach us your quality!!!
Excellent work! ...way better than my diy 2x4 bunk frames...thanks for the tutorial!!!
Really useful video and some great advice I shall be using. Thanks a lot and stay safe!
Great explanation on selecting the proper joint for both the material and the application. Keep up the great videos.
I just used your method on some columns at work. Used plywood with a jobsite tablesaw and they turned out great. So it definitely is something you can do without fancy tools.
Thanks for all your videos on this.
Great explanation of why! Appreciate the continued content!
Good stuff Spencer. As usual. Oh, and thanks for validating my 45-1/2 degree technique. I always did that but didn't really think about it. It just made sense to me! Now I know must be doing it right!
Wow, great work and good explanations.
Thank you very much for the explanation on your techniques. I strangely feel like my last comment sparked this video. But, your explanation is excellent and honestly answered my question.
I'm using a couple lock miter bits on my router table and have had great results. I have always used a table saw for these types of jobs. I think you clearly answered my question. I think the problem I have had is using blue tape vs clear packing tape. I am doing 2 custom columns this week, and I will be using the HD clear tape.... LOL
Thank you very much for your insight, and clear explanation. You kick serious ass my friend. I will keep you posted on the results....
It’s a great topic to talk about. I think you’ll have good luck with the clear HD packing tape. 👍👊
Can’t wait to see it installed
Nicely Done Great Job 👍
Awesome vid and explanation, agreed, we use the freeborn lock miter bit in a SCMI CNC shaper, with power feed, did a massive fraternity that called for 5’x12’ walnut panels for walls, (mdf core) then there were beams on ceiling in a grid, beams were 12” wide by 12” tall, we miter locked the MDF, and I would recommend against that because the tongue was extremely fragile, installers pulled it off, but with that being said, running ply core through a miter lock I’m just not sure of the strength in tongue plus how well it would cut,
Non the less miter folding is just as effective and gratifying at the end when the job is complete, nice job, that’ll be a killer bunk bed!
I’ve use it on plywood also with mixed results. Better to fold it. 👍
Great work!
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Wow very nice quality. Great content and explained very well. Im new to wood working and its very addicting as a hobby. Great info! New sub here
Nice work
Very nice work! Where did you get your start?
Great video Thanks.
Always good info and good vids. Always showing his work and to the point. This is why I like watching your vids mainly because you don’t start acting like most clowns thinking it’s a reality tv show lol. Nice job.
Great job brother💪
Thanks ✌
I’ve been doing custom woodworking for the past 19 years now and I honestly can say you are fantastic at your job. Skills and knowledge is a true masters class. But as you know, every tool you display isn’t cheap and most of us can’t just go out and buy the tools you own.
So what’s your Philosophy on buying tools and do you set a limit on the price you will or can pay. A good example is your deWalt cordless router, or should I say the 6 of them. I have one and it’s amazing, but I cat justify 6. Your lazar pointer tape measure which is awesome, is $142. For some guys that’s a days pay.
I get the fact that without these tools you can’t do this level of work, especially by yourself. So how did you cross that line in your head and just buy the tool? What’s your annual budget on tools and how much would you say you have spent over time fir you shop and van?
I would like to see some inside drone shots of those beams you made. What a great skill set to have.
Great topic. I definitely need to cover that at some point. 👍
nice job!
Talent.
Great work and thanks for sharing. Can we get some detail about the Core? I noticed some blocking inside the plywood. I bought a Dewalt cordless nailer for 50% off! I'm excited since I mostly work with softwoods.
First love your content, I’ve learned more from your videos than probably anywhere else. With that said, I think you would actually like making bunkbeds if you put the plywood aside and used actual hardwood. Yes the material cost goes up but your labor and satisfaction improve. You obviously don’t need to make them for your main source of income so if people want them, make them the way you want.
I'm not a fan of the design time and legwork involved mostly. I actually like working with plywood in this instance. Its much easier to work with IMO.
That was awesome can you do a demonstration of the miter fold joint ???
Yep, that's a good video. I should probably do another for the newer subscribers.
Great video...
I did a test using this method on some PVC trim boards using just some CA glue. Turned out amazing and I couldn't break the joint. Gonna reinforce with some hidden screws for my project.
Do you think CA glue/screw will hold up long term for exterior trim use?
No. CA glue breaks like glass. It seems strong...until it isn’t. It’s not for the outdoor environment where materials move with the seasons.
Nice job 👍 * new subscriber *
My dad was a finish carpenter for well over thirty plus years.
You would get his approval! Keep up the great work!
Great video! Thanks
Nice work. Why is packing tape preferred over blue tape?
You can see though it and tell if the corner is aligned correctly. With blue tape you are flying blind. 👍
Whenever you make such furniture as that bed, you should make plans/blueprints of it. It might be some sort of income. Anyway, very informative video and excellent job with these taped mitre joints.
So are you laminating a core material? Would like to see a video on this process if you are looking for content to produce in the future. Thanks for such a great channel.
There are a couple blocks on the inside just to keep things square and tie all four sides together since it is load bearing.
They look great , I like wrapping miters as well . What plywood are you using here in this build ?
Poplar plywood.
Wow, looks fantastic. How does the 45.5 degree trick work in terms of surface area for glue? Do you use pva glue or something that expands to fill the gap? I would imagine the joint would be weak without adequate surface area so what am I missing? Thanks.
Its actually pretty good contact. TB1,2,or 3 work great. If you don't over cut the angle slightly you will never get a tight outside corner. So it kind of has to have a slight gap on the inside.
This looks great! I wanted to ask, what type of wood do you use for door and window casing? It looks like a finger jointed board, but I have not seen this in my local home store. It looks dead straight and flat so I want to use it. Your work comes out so beautifully!
Finger jointed poplar and poplar plywood.
@@InsiderCarpentry thanks for getting back to me and have an amazing productive Monday!
Great job! I understand that you are painting the surface but if you were to stain it would the tape you used leave a residue that might effect the stain?
I sand everything with an orbital sander after I take the tape off. No issues with staining if you're sanding it after tape is removed.
Great work as always! Will that be glued up in the room? If so, how will they get it out? I know, I know, stupid question.
They want it to look built in. So it will be permanent. Its not coming out without a wrecking ball once its in.
I use a 3 1/2 HP router in a router table I made myself and I have a power feed I use with it as well. This works for raised panel doors and style and rail door construction. I have well over 100 1/2" shank router bits I use for moldings and other decorative. And yes I am a 3rd generation woodworker, retired now and I have a large shop to work out of.
Nice work, sure wish I had a domino to do that type of pin, rather than a biscuit or dowel pegs... nice. But then again, pegs are cheap :) I use a vinyl tape, its super strong and has an adhesive that is strong but won't stick when you peel it off... its blue, not sure what it's called.
Nice 👏👍
Awesome work man! You mentioned using the layout extension in sketchup for that rendering PDF. Which one exactly? Id love to be able to print out that document for my clients and myself during a build.
It’s the pro/paid version of sketch up. It’s a bit salty. Cost me $600.
Insider Carpentry ah. I had a feeling that’s what you were referring to. Thanks man!
You can just export what your seeing on the screen as a 2d image file. Sometimes the lines are not as clear and and dark as what your seeing on the screen. You might also want to crop the image a little if it's not quite center.
You can also just take screen shots and put them on one page like a collage. Also use the dimension lines with different angles looking at the piece. It takes a little more time, but saves some money for sure.
I use a macbook and have numbers (spreadsheet program) to put the images on a blank sheet. You can create a table on the bottom of the page to make it look like an architectural drawings with information on the project as well.
Alex Scire wow! Thank you! That’s some great info and I really appreciate it. I’m going to try that out 👍🏼
Very nice, who is your little 4 legged helper ?
That is Roxy. She guards the tools.
Aight. Definitely gonna be doing this in the future for my girls. Hell, maybe even for my wife and myself. Get back up to your bed! And no jumping.
Would you recommend the lamello zeta for affixing mitred boxes ?
I find it difficult to decide when I should make 'beams' like this using plywood or even thin solid-wood stock vs just using solid lumber...of course there is always a risk involved with using large pieces of solid wood (humidity, expansion/contraction)...
Nice!💜
Have you tried rockler miter fold dado set for this kind of beams?
Do you do 45.5 degree mitre on both the track saw as well as the table saw?
Thank you
Yep 👍
I tried Miter folds, but I couldn't get the paint to stick to the tape....
Hey. Great videos as always. Table saws for the workshop are expensive and require a lot os space . Do you rate the dewalt flexvolt portable table saw for this kind of precision. Cheers pal
You can still get excellent results with a portable table saw. You just wouldn’t use it to make a living if you had a choice.
I have used a locked miter for plywood but the laminations perpendicular to the cut tend to crumble so it isn’t good for plywood.
By 4 sided tape wrapping like that at 45.5° aren’t you concerned it can shift out of perfect square as the glue dries?
Indeed. For that reason I put blocks on the inside. On a 4x4 post I’m not too worried. But on bigger and wider stuff I like to use blocks to keep things square.
Class🙌🏴✊
Very nice miters.
Do you glue the bed together on site? Is there a way to disassemble it later?
Yes, it will get assembled onsite.
My question and concern as well. Once that family out grows the Bunk Bed set up... seems this one will need cut with a sawzall to get it out of the house rendering it useless to any other family. ??
That’s what they want. People who are willing to pay the custom expense don’t want something that looks store bought. They want it to look built in.
@@InsiderCarpentry I get that completely. It's not a dig on you. Shame your skill and efforts on the bed will be disposed of in only a few short years. But at last the customer gets what the customer wants.
Can you share the plans to those bunk beds
Great job spencer 👌🏻👌🏻. Made one for my twins. It’s not as good as that.😂👌🏻🇮🇪
What is the preferred grade of plywood for this work?
Lowest grade for acceptable work?
I use a pretty decent poplar grade because it matches the poplar trim we use. That way stain matches.
@@InsiderCarpentry Thanks for the info.
Could you have done both miters on the table saw??
Yes. I explained why I didn’t in the video. The first cut is a straight line with the track saw.
I have a 5hp shaper and have never found the need for a lock miter. Miter fold ftw.
I have the same feelings about it more and more. Definitely miter fold FTW.
With your skill and attention to detail, I don't think you need any luck.
You have a great IG account! Where did you source the poplar ply? It looks fantastic! Thanks
Spencer has mentioned in the past that poplar is the go-to wood in Indiana because it's local.
My lumber yard stocks it.
can the first 45.5 degree cut not be done on the table saw?
Yes. But not as straight as a track saw. On the table saw any inconsistencies on the first rip will be transferred to the second rip and so on.
How will the top bunk ultimately be attached to the stiles? I’ve not used dominos - are they strong enough to hold the structure, mattress and person?
I had the same observation regarding the sheer strength of the Dominos. I would not want to have a 'Step Brothers' bunk bed situation.
Have you tried the Domino Connectors system ?
I haven’t yet. But they look great.
How do you get your logo on your tool boxes?
Stickers from my sign guy.
Cool
Did you have something INSIDE those glue ups?? I thought I saw something inside
Blocking. Keeps things square. Ties all sides together. Gives me something to screw into if I want to lag them together at install time.
How much does this bunker bed cost to build?
I am planning to build a loft bed, can anyone shed some light to help me on choosing the material?
Will legs made with two 2X4 sister lumber of pine or a miter fold of 3/4 plywood stronger?
Also which one will be lighter?
Thank you
@jami w Thank you, I will check the Lowes out.
Use strapping tape. It is reinforced and won't stretch.
I keep meaning to try it but haven’t yet. 👍
Does it come in wide widths?
Obviously you are not shopping at Home depot for plywood... lol
Just fyi, 3/4" A1 red oak veneer core plywood.... today's price in CAD: $160/sheet.
This guy is using a high quality glue, accurate smooth cuts, and proper clamping . Lock mitre's (while strong) are not really much of a benefit in this application ( not to mention time consuming). That miter fold with glue is stronger than the joint. z
Tape gun? 🤣🤣 I hope you have the safety locked so it doesn't shoot tape everywhere. And be sure to wear eye protection!
Great video! Thank you.