How this iPhone 4 FIXED AntennaGate!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In early 2011, Apple released the CDMA iPhone 4 for Verizon - a phone that not only fixed the infamous "Antennagate", but also had no SIM tray! In this video, we discuss the why and the how- and look at Antennagate as a whole, especially compared to the Bendgate controversy response.
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Some fun obscure Apple content for you all today, hope you enjoy! - I never realized just how in-depth Apple's response to Antennagate was, especially compared to the Bendgate controversy 4 short years later. Steve Jobs, love him or hate him, definitely added a personal touch to everything Apple did.
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I remember Sprint had it
Steve Jobs was way better for Apple than Tim Apple has been, he just can't Cook the same.
real
I mean some people are big dum-dums and don't need responses to stupid complaints (I never had any gate problems people claim to have) but Apple is a multi trillion dollar company so it doesn't matter anyway
Tim cook only cares about the money 💰 🤑 💸
@@THEMASTER10121 more like maximizing profit for the investors and shareholders since Apple is a publicly traded company and that's what every big company is doing and they'll always come out with new sneaky ways to make more profit for every fiscal year cus that's the job of every publicly traded company
it is so rare to see Apple admit they made a mistake with their products, i think because the antennagate was affecting way too many users they had to do something, it was probably affecting their sales too, it's so ironic that they fixed the issue with the 4s in 2011 and then had the dying graphics issue on the 2011 Macbooks .
What is funny is my first iPhone was the 4 and then I upgraded to the 6.... never really had any of the issues tho
I suspect the team that did the iphone network development where all right handed. That's my guess.
The iPhone 15 is basically an iPhone 4.
Ill save you 20 minutes. CDMA phones.
Now Apple make the problem, sell you the solution. Classic Apple guilt tripping
Something that seems to have been forgotten to time is that shortly after the iPhone 5 launched, there were reports of them coming with dings and dents brand new out of the box. I remember Apple saying that those dings and dents fell within normal error rates at the time and that was pretty much all they did to acknowledge it. I believe it was mostly only the black model that was affected which is probably why they switch it to being "space gray" for the 5S and SE1 models.
LMAO the unbox therapy shade i love it 😭
iPhone 4 was so heavily leaked, Apple would completely redesign the phone if that happened today
Are you sure about that? Considering the design is basically is still the same as the iphone 11
That’s because iPhone has not been so heavily leaked since iPhone 4. And when we do get leaks, it’s always “iPhone planned to raise price to 6,000,000 dollar for new iPhone “@@Matyas_Ceo_Of_Matyas
It literally is leaked fully every year…
Not as bad as iPhone 4@@IAmConorr
The way Steve Jobs handled it and then proceeded to lie about a lot of it really didn’t float my boat
“You’re holding it wrong.”
The Verizon iphone 4 was my first iphone in 2012 (hand me down). I was always interested as to why it had no sim card tray
The CDMA iPhone 4 actually became the basis for the 4S as both phones share similar underpinnings save for the SIM tray and upgraded SOC in the 4S.
There's actually a provision for SIM cards on CDMA called Removable User Identity Module (R-UIM), not to mention that some Verizon phones do have a GSM SIM slot for roaming iirc.
The iPhone 4 was truly a revolutionary product. Retina display, the first custom Apple chip, the build. It looked phenomenal.
Lack of simcard seems really strange even for apple considering many apple costumers are more affluent and used to travelling a lot and hence they NEED a simcard tray. Many countries yet don’t support esim for pay as you go plans or for tourists. This decision seems that was taken due to pressure from USA mobile phone networks that wanted their costumers to use roaming more when abroad hence generating more revenue. Less option for the consumer and better for big telecom companies. Just another normal day in America
I mean I bet at least some of them are yearning to go back to the CDMA days where you couldn't port your phone without permission from your carrier...
I feel like apple did it to force companies to make eSIM
Yep I totally agree. It was apple fixing a problem that wasn’t there and taking away a feature. There was no need for it at all. We already had e-sims in iPhones truly irritating.
There are a few eSim providers in europe but the phone has to be eSim unlocked to use them, i think being a dual sim/eSim option is the best. I wonder if those more affluent iPhone users just buy the iPhones from another country and use the american sims in it when in america or just get a second iPhone when in a different country
@@ColinsCity here in the uk no major networks support eSIM for pay as you go costumers, you need to have a phone contract to get one
I lived through antenna gate and had one of the AT&T phones that would drop a call or lose signal if you held it across those antenna points. However, the iPhone 4 was probably the first mainstream phone that being made of glass on the front and back require the use of a case, and after the first month or two, when people started realizing this thing would break when you dropped it, started putting cases on which alleviated the problem and pretty much it went away overnight.
I’ve got my bumper case still in the blister pack!
My 6 Plus was run over by 2 cars and an 18 wheeler truck, was fine apart from a few blown pixels.
Hey, I really good video sounded really interesting but I have to say apple getting rid of the physical sim in the American models is just a typical Apple thing. Fixing a problem that wasn’t there. It’s just taking a feature away and making it harder for people to switch carriers. I’m sure the carriers asked apple to do this and what’s really irritating is apple is not using that space for anything there’s just a box inside there it’s no extra battery no extra anything it’s just empty space now.
"esim" and "convenient" are two words that do NOT belong together in a single sentence.
That’s your opinion. Not a fact.
@@RolandKoller90 Atleast Apple fanatics arn't as annoying as transphobes.
@@qwertykeyboard5901huh
Ah the good old days when I could get a local data SIM.
Yeah , CDMA was a thing in the US and later in the world as well , and it wasn't all that hard to switch to another CDMA or GSM provider , you just had to visit the provider store and get it sorted , just as much as with eSIM today. Most of the phones had SIM slot for obvious reasons , but changing number for CDMA device wasn't much of a difference than changing eSIM today , it was usually network configuration message but if you knew what you were doing , you could type that info yourself too. Most people didn't want to type anything as it was too much for average customer back then and things haven't changed much today. The only convinience of SIM as such (if phone wasn't network locked) that you hand't had to deal with config messages and usually , some online portal from which you'd request new network settings. Also , you don't have to worry if chip that holds network info is damaged as it is with CDMA/eSIM , as replacing the entire device can be very inconvinient and frustrating experience. eSIM is more convinient on smartwatches than it is on the phones , but it's good to have it both , just in case.
a persona 5 soundtrack is the last thing i expected to hear in this video lol
CDMA 8GB iPhone 4 was my first smartphone!
I read somewhere that Apple did indeed develop a better coating for the antenna band to prevent Antennagate from happening again. They didn’t make a fuss out of it, just released improved models during the 4 cycle. Can’t remember the source for this.
eSIM is NOT convenient
You need therapy for it? Lmao
@@RolandKoller90 you’ll be ok
esprit at the end 🔥🔥
"Your holding it wrong"
Great video mate. I’m from the UK, I bought an iPhone 4 Day 1 and nor myself or anybody I knew had this issue at the time. It was DEFINITELY over blown. I remember hearing about it and genuinely being confused as to what was going on lol. It was a small minority of users affected, I just happened to not come across any.
I miss Jobs. He actually protected the customer. Apple today is a scummy company
My sister had the problem with the iPhone 6 bending and she never put it in her pocket. She put it in the purse. I remember we went to the Apple Store and they just looked at it and switched it out for a new one had no idea about bend gate when it happened until we RUclips it.
Notice when Steve Jobs was in charge things were handled better, and products were actually fixed and maintained? If this were to happen today, they wouldn’t do anything about it. In fact, there’s a good chance they’ll just ignore it. But Steve actually pointed out the flaws, and fixed them. Apple just isn’t the same without him.
Most phones in 2009 has esims. The Samsung Galaxy s on Verizon and sprint had esim in 2009 as well
I actually have this model that I got through Cricket Wireless at the time, I never understood why it didn’t have the sim tray.
I have 2 CDMA 4's. I downgraded one of them to iOS 5 and have iOS 5 era apps on it.
Still remember the insane amount of 4.X.X updates there were to fix cellular related things. Had a CDMA iPhone 4 personally
That isnt strange at all. CDMA phones have been lacking SIM cards for many years before the iphone. It just seems strange because LTE requires a SIM card, and CDMA phones are less common than GSM/UMTS devices. Most CDMA devices made after 2012 or so support all network bands due to LTE using regular old SIMs once again.
I think that part of the reason Apple didn't come out with a whole press conference for the bendgate issue is because Apple switched CEOs
Geeze, Apple without Jobs truly is a completely different company.
E-sim doesn't actually work in alot of European countries...you actually have to have a different phone if you want service, OR buy a international version of the iPhone...OR>>>>>JUST GET A SAMSUNG.
Here’s my random claim to fame. I was the 2nd customer in the UK to have a bent iPhone 6 Plus, well at least according to Apple at the time.
How did I bend it? I had it in the front pocket of my non skinny jeans with big pockets. I picked it up at the Apple Store on launch day, set it up in store, put it in my pocket, left and drove home. When I out of the car and found I had a bent phone.
Apple tried desperately to convince me to make an AppleCare claim instead of making a warranty report, as “It’s cosmetic so not covered”. I stood my ground. I got my money back, voted with my wallet and ended up with Sony until 2023, when I moved back to Apple.
I agree that Apple under Cook is not the same as Apple under Jobs but then again, that’s capitalism 101. The customer is only right when they are handing over their money, after that they’re on their own. There’s not a single giant tech company that acts the same as Apple in 2008-2012, because such things hurt their bottom line. I came back fully aware of this, I wouldn’t get better treatment from Sony/Samsung/Huawei/Xiaomi/Oneplus etc
if their phone broke due to a design flaw, so boycotting Apple for the same thing no longer served any purpose. Sad, but true
let's be really clear here. CLEARLY the reason why the iPhone 6 was bending was really for the presence of the headphone jack. in fact they fixed it with iPhone 7... lol
jokes aside, been bingewatching some of your vids, great content
Tim Cook might have made Apple a very profitable company but it also is making apple a very hated company as well. Apple nickel and diming everybody. It's making it harder to repair. Upgrades on memory and RAM are really expensive. I would have bought a macbook but the high prices for basic upgrades it's putting me off. I travel so I would like to have the physical sim slot. Tim can only the milk customers for so long before they make them switch
I have the iPhone 13, picked it up in December 2023, I love it. Good screen, great battery life, decent sounding speakers and no extra unnecessary camera bumps/lenses.
I remember my wife had an iPhone 6 Plus. She carry it in her purse 👜, bendgate never affected her. I think Apple was right, but yea they should payback customers who encountered bendgate. But we know Apple.
CDMA sucked so hard. You couldn't switch providers without buying a new phone or flashing firmware. It was just used by Verizon to lock people to their network
The Steve Jobs era of apple will always to me at least be the best apple. The Tim Cook era started the rip off our customers era of apple and push large controversies under the rug.
I have the iPhone 4 and the original box, it still kinda works but battery life is almost not usable lol. Sadly I have it updated to the latest ios it has on it. But wouldn't mind trying to downgrade it back.
Pretty sure you can with anything older than the 6 or 6s. I’d google it and see what you find
Still daily driving two iPhone SE (1G) in 2024 gang gang.
Most beautiful smartphone.
I had an iPhone 4 and a 6 plus and i didn't have these issues oddly enough 😂
I also damaged the phone 6 plus like 6 times because i kept dropping it but never bend it.
Been binging your videos all week and loving the content. Subbed!
Apple then: We care about every user. We're not perfect
Apple Now: I missed the part where that's my problem
First iPhone had no 3G and no video recording function. Most nokia phones could do that even in 2007....
Watching this after the 17.5 photos coming back is crazy cause Apple did the same thing as here
Steve Jobs apple was so much better. Innovation has gotten stale since then. Except maybe the iPhone X
I had a 4 and 4S and never personally experienced call dropping issues. Maybe I was just lucky
i have the iPhone 4 CDMA but locked... i hate this cant activate it
It's funny how the Iphone 1*4* got rid of the sim card too.
Iphone 4 would be so proud
iPhone 4 brought EVDO to the device which lacks a SIM card.
My main takeaway from this video is….
So you enjoying Persona 5?
I use ip6 plus till 2018 no any problem
My htc desire would lose Bluetooth and cellular too when I hold the bottom plastic of it
Some people still use that horrible ugly and bulky otter box 😂
I had this phone when it came out and I got the free bumper that they were sending out
The only reasom I still using physical SIM is flexibility. I remembered I must removed my own SIM Card, and put the other SIM for do something with my Dad 😅
Sims are nice because they have a bit of storage for phone numbers
Verizon iPhone 4 was my first iPhone love it to death.
I knew about this model but only because I was a jailbreaker and often you’d have to select your own software version into the programs. Had to make sure I got the gsm and not the cdma
They had no sim trays in the USA !? Really lol #canada
I still have my iphone 4 on verizon with out the simm slot
Steve jobs truly an Apple's heart❤
I wish USA iPhones still had SIM cards
The fact that little had been done for testing signal behaviour during calls before launch is a byproduct of calls not being so important anymore even in 2011
Nah, there was extensive signal testing, and if I recall correctly the iPhone 4 theoretically had the best antenna performance out of equivalent smartphones of its time. The problem with traditional testing is that in order to test these products, the devices would be held up by fixed armatures to ensure consistent testing. These armatures are not representative of a human hand at all and what would happen if you were to bridge these two antennas. This style of antenna was pretty much a world's first at the time, so they had no idea that it would happen simply because it was the first time anyone had done this.
Testing is still done in anechoic chambers with special armatures holding the phone up today. But now we have the benefit of hindsight to test for interference with hand positioning.
this is actually a Ginkgo product
Believing the "rounding error" in the software was not just them covering their mistake is so funny to me. If all they did was change how the bars in the UI show up then chances are it was not a bug and in reality it was 100% to make them look less like clowns lol. Very Apple sheep take man, if they show you 2 bars instead of 1 after an update you still have the same reception as before the "fix". Apple doesn't make radio equipment or chips, all they could do is a UI tweak.
4:37 Mmm... Qualcomm BREW... Programs compiled to ARM machine language, running right on your phone! Gives a nice speed boost over Java!
Antenna gate was something for sure. Bend gate was garbage nonsense of people picking on apple just so they could get their 15 minutes of fame. Think about it. Do you spend $1000 on some thing and then sit on it or forcefully try to bend it? Nobody in their right mind would forcefully try to bend $1000 item and of course sitting on your phone if you weigh the weight of an average adult, you’re going to cause major issues. That’s not something to get about. That just shows how stupid, ignorant, and selfish people can get. Instead of appreciating the fact that they have this amazing technology in the pocket of their jeans that connects them to the world, they would rather complain about how they are too stupid to pull their phone out of their pocket, and they sat down and bent it. You wanna prove me wrong? The audience of videos Showing people literally trying to bend the phone tells a lot. Wonderful video as always, and stay amazing buddy. I look forward to your videos all the time even though I am definitely a very harsh critic.
Reason why the iPhone 4 without a sim tray ever existed was because Verizon and Sprint used CDMA network technology that did not use the GSM standard of the SIM card until the two carriers would eventually transition over to LTE which utilized a SIM card as the standard.
Ah, yes… the press conference. 8:03 Nowadays, the “press conference” is now the Newsroom. Wish Apple could bring back press conferences for product issues and solutions to fix said “issues”.
I had the iPhone 4 and it was a game changer the screen and 720 video recording it was the future in 2010 phones had just got colour screens about 4 years earlier so the Retina display was so good the iPhone 3GS had been the first iPhone to shot video and the next iPhone did it in HD it was incredible for the time the antenna was ok I think it was AT$T didn’t have the network for everyone in the USA to have a phone so it would bump iPhones off the network wasn’t a issue in Australia also the iPhone 4 was the last affordable iPhone outright was cheap compared to other phone on the market at the time
I had that phone, both the iPhone 4 CDM and the GSM one. Honestly all phone did that I had a nokia N95 and you could choke the signal of any phone. For the most part, I feel like it was clickbait. It was funny nonetheless as it coined the term "you're holding wrong." Good video.
I remember having one of these iphone 4s! (actually wait i still have it lol its jailbroken now)
I always wondered why there was no SIM slot but then i figured it was CDMA because it was my dads and used to be on verizon
Very cool video thanks !
I had both Phones, the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. Well, I never had any problems with the signal strength and the iPhone 6 Plus was the phone I used the longest, because the iPhones after this one seemed to be the same and didn’t made me upgrade. And it never got bended… But I still have my free iPhone 4 Bumper 🤪
I’ll never forget i found out i was apart of bend gate with my iPhone 6 when i had a cracked screen and took it in for repair and they replaced it because it was bent. Also had a 5th gen iPod and that also bent like the iPhone. Crazy back then
Damn I must say that after Steve Jobs passed, the same time OG Apple passed with him. After that Apple was less user friendly about failures and tried to just bury the failures.
At the time the iphone 4 was released with its " retna display "the sony xperia that i was using had a ppi of 525.
The iphone 4 had a ppi of just 326.
i got a iphone4s for my collection and i found it said Verizon in the network info. tho it had a simslot and it worked
i was hoping to get the verizon one to work from England for if i went to canada or usa again. but now 3g is gone.
it still says verizon when no simcard is installed and its still EPIC as a history peace
It’s crazy because I have a iPhone 4 still on iOS 4.2.10 (the Verizon model)
I didn’t have an iPhone at the time until years later at this point, but even then I was kind of like, who is using their bare phone without a case 🤔
back before apple was stuck up and wasnt afraid to say they wernt perfect rip classic apple also im a android user always but there was a charm to oldewr apple devices
I literally got my hands on 3 iPhone 4 s yesterday (two without a sim slot and one with a sim slot) and realized apple has done the esim only thing before.
Well, the iPhone 4 antennagate got me a surprise, because I have only only one for a few months
Why does CDMA even exist. It’s awful and worse then GSM
It wasn't at the time. It had far superior voice quality (which was the key function of phones back then belive it or not) and was much more efficient in use of spectrum, and had faster downloads than GSM for many years until GSM played a huge game of catch up. Verizon is where they are today partially because of the perceived reliability they earned years ago on the strength of their old CDMA network. They of course have been coasting for years now.
It was saddled with expensive Qualcomm license fees, which hurt it's spread and the EU didn't want a standard controlled by America to take away from EU companies
Watching this video on a Blackberry 8520.
One of the reasons to only get the S models of iPhones back in the day, which I did
Apple used to care about the user, now apple cares about the user's money.
That’s was my first guess code division multiple access
iPhone 4 was my first smartphone and I had no issues with it other than it felt a bit too small and slow after awhile which is why I got a Nexus 4.
The first folding phone. Who says Apple steals all their ideas?
this just feels like apple reusing there old idea of e sim to there new iPhone
I used an iPhone 4 for over 2 years and never noticed a signal issue lol