Hi Rachel, I've actually lived in the UK for 5 years to study, I had access to the NHS throughout the whole period. a couple of years back, I got a hernia and had to surgically fix it (tuck it back into the abdomen). The wait time just to get a CT scan was crazy, towards the end, I couldn't walk properly, I asked for them to expedite my appointment and explained my situation. I had friends who worked at the NHS (both a surgeon and a GP), they were Jordanian; they actually recommended that I fly back to Jordan and do the surgery because the standards at private hospitals in Jordan are better than the NHS (their words not mine) hahaha. Luckily, I had insurance through my family and had one of the best surgeons in Jordan operating on me 2 days after I arrived, the whole thing costed me 30 JDs :D Unfortunately, there are a lot of misconceptions around healthcare in the Middle East, and we might not have the best facilities (especially in public hospitals), but I would go far as to say that we have some of the most skilled doctors in the world. So you really don't have to worry about medical care when you're in Jordan.
I really felt sad about your experience in the first hospital you mentioned especially regarding not letting you to have proper skin to skin contact with your baby and not allowing you to breast feed within the 1st hour.. I am a jordanian pediatrician and hearing this makes me sad.. It is true that a lot of hospitals in jordan dont implement breastfeeding policies and even rooming in many cases is not allowed, many of my relatives would be told by nurses as you said that the baby is hungry and is not getting enough breast milk and we need to feed him formula instead of providing support and help to a new mom.. And in fact as i see in my practice breastfeeding among jordanian mothers unfortunately is being decreasing and formula feeding is on the rise for several reasons some of which is the absense of proper counseling regarding breast feeding which should start during pregnancy and not after the mother delivers.. We as pediatricians here in jordan should pay more efforts and their is a lack of breastfeeding consultants which i think are much more available in western countries like the UK for example.. I was happy for your nice experience in jordan university hospital where i was trained during my residency.. But wanted to clarify that JUH is not actually considered a typical public hospital it is more of a university hospital.. So there is much of an academic atmosphere.. public hospitals in amman is like prince hamza hospital or Al basheer hospital thank you so much for sharing your experience.. And may Allah bless your lovely kids
I remember you, I am a resident at JUH, and I met with you and your husband at one of your antenatal visits, I am glad you liked your experience at JUH, we always try to do our best.
I have been married to my Jordanian husband now for 15 years, I lived in Amman off and on for years , I am American. Back in 2007 I decided to deliver my daughter at Al Bashear hospital, never again!! I ended up having a C-section there, the hospital was very dirty, the nurses were so rude, they had me stay for 3 days after the surgery in a room with 3 women on the left side of the room and 3 on the other side of the room, we all 6 women were recovering from C-section surgeries, avoid this hospital like the plague ladies, also I woke up after my surgery with some male nurse slapping my face to awaken me, worst experience ever, I absolutely love Jordan and the people there, not so much for their hospitals. also I just recently watched your video on your Jordanian Nationality, like you I just applied for my Jordanian citizenship on October 1 2021 and inshaAllah I’ll have it soon!!!! Mabrook on your Jordanian Nationality !!! 👏
I think we don't get midwives here after birth is because we are used to having one of grandmothers come and help the mom for like 40 days or maybe even longer. Glad you shared all this information ❤❤
Yes, it is perhaps useful for foreigners to understand that. I wish I hadn’t cut details of the cultural / traditional differences of birthing here from my final edit! Thank you for highlighting it here ❤️
LOVED this video and it really resonated with my experience of giving birth - I was at Farah. I think a lot depends on who your Dr is and how insistent you/hubby is with them. I absolutely refused to let them take my son and give him any formula at all. He stayed with me almost the whole time and they performed the tests they needed to in the room with me and my hubby went with them if they needed to take him anywhere else. Nurses were super at supporting breastfeeding and the place was really clean. My only gripe was that they made me birth on my back in stirrups, which is pretty 1950s! That was more the Dr than the hospital though. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Yes, husband definitely needs to be on side and making sure your wishes are heard. Yes yes yes to the stirrups - it was one of my main complaints when discussing my birth plan at Jordan Hospital and they said there is absolutely no way they would violate hospital policy when it came to the stirrups 😩 Would you give birth again in Jordan/ at Farah?
MummyinAmman probably not as I really wanted a water birth but if I had to give birth again here then I would definitely return to Farah although perhaps with a different doctor
I didn’t know then, but now I understand why our relatives went on about the formula. I refused formula for all my 5 children and I breastfeed for 2 years. Alhamdulillah my husband supports me. It’s crazy how anyone thinks formula would be the best for the baby. I do understand if it’s no other option but they make it sound like breastfeeding is the second best option. SubhanAllah it’s even in the Quran!
Jordan University Hospital is not a public hospital per se, it is a university hospital which services the University of Jordan primarily for students (med/nursing/lab etc) and residents, and of course patients/clients eventually... The point is, this hospital is considered a mid-range hospital between a private hospital and a public hospital. I can't generalize but I'm quite confident that the experience would've been less than ideal at a public hospital, and for a foreigner like you - no offense - I wouldn't recommend being medicated there unless you lower your expectations quite low. I work at JUH and I speak highly of it. I'm glad you enjoyed your delivery there and if you come again, make sure you look for me if you needed any help. ☺️
Hi! I am so glad I found you channel! I have been living in Jordan for 3 years already. And soon enough InshaaAllah I will become a mother! My doctor works at Jordan Hospital, and so your video gave me a great deal to think about I will for sure, now confirm with her all the details that you mentioned!! 😊👍 Even though, I still do not know where I will deliver. I mean, I am just not familiar yet with my options! Anyway, thank you so much!
Mabrook!. At the end of the day it depends on what you agree with your doctor and your husband which basically means you’re in the best hands possible as long as you are clear about your wishes. Wishing you all the best for your delivery ❤️
Yes, here in the UK (at least in pre covid times - my experience is from smer 2019) you have a midwife who comes the next day you've come back home from hospital, mainly to support the mother. Then after 3 or 5 days they come to check the baby's weight and check bloods by taking blood from the heel of the baby. However, after my midwife saw me the first time, on my third day at home I had a breakdown because I wasn't sure I was breastfeeding properly so I called the ward I gave birth in (St George's in London) and they arranged for a midwife to come and see me on that same day and it was soooooo helpful alhamduliLlah. She reassured me so much and gave me so much tranquility. Then the midwife comes to your house the following week, they do weigh the baby and after 2 weeks of being back home (or two weeks post partum) you are discharged from the midwives if there no concerns. Before being discharged by the midwife though you're also seen by the health visitor (a nurse or midwife with extra qualifications), so their care overlaps at one point. After you're discharged by the midwife then you're under the care of the health visitor (and GP), the health visitor comes to your house for a couple of times, after which you go their centre instead. If they have any medical concerns they direct you to the gp and for vaccines you also go to the gp where normally a nurse practitioner does them for you. But with your health visitor you can keep in touch. I always called mine when I had any concerns and she was great. That's how it works in the uk. I'm Italian (and born in Ecuador) and I know in Italy instead you're cared for by the paediatrician, if I'm not wrong. So interesting to see the birth experience in different countries! It's such a delicate process, even after (and maybe even especially!) the baby is born. Thanks for sharing all this experience!
Ok , about the follow up after leaving the hospital , it is the standard , but it is not from hospital , it is provided by ministry of health through public infirmary with the diffrence that you go register and you get scheduled appointments for checking up on babies and time for shots like chicken box and many other shots like this , but it depend on you if you follow up or not , check your area health center , and Adham should receive his shots so does the baby
Well... JORDAN UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IS NOT A PUBLIC ONE... IT IS ONLY BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND WORKS FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND IS AUTOMATICALLY INSURED WITH THIS HOSPITAL YOU WERE ALLOWED TO GIVE BIRTH IN IT. FOR ORDINARY JORDANIANS IT WILL COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY TO USE THAT HOSPITAL. SO EFFECTIVELY JORDAN UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IS MORE PRIVATE THAN PUBLIC.
Hi Rachel, I had my son two years back and I did a course on hypnobirthing which helped me a lot!!! The midwife that gave me the course was actually British, and Im still friends with her- by the way Im Jordanian and I live in Dubai. I do not know any other Arab women who ever heard about hypnobirthing. Can you make a video about your experience and how did you get to do it Jordan? Are there courses in Amman? Or were you self-taught?
Wow, Rachele rich experience with so many details 🙂 may you talk in the next video regarding things that made you decide to get married to an Arabian man 🙂👨?
My mom had to gave birth in a private hospital "very bad experience" The nurses didn't listened , smiled,or even looked at her ,there were 0 difference between them and robots, they took my little brother extremely quickly ,my mom had to BEG them just to SEE him+ it's super expensive...
Hi. My question is not really related to your vlog. But I just gave birth recently in Farah, I wonder if do you have any idea regarding getting an english translated birth certificate directly from Department of Civil status and Passport Office and how's the process? Thank you so much.
Dr Nasr Hosban and I’m afraid I’ve got total mind blank regarding the resident 🙈 but actually I met a few of his residents during various appointments and they were all top class
I worked there for 7 years during my residency and a couple of years following it 2018-2016. I'm glad you had such a pleasant experience. I'm sure you got some special treatment because of your husband and because you are ajanabyeh as well :)) when I finish my studies in the UK in a couple of years I'd love to meet you in Jordan!
Usually in public hospitals they will not allow you to have anyone with you. Amman may be different and you may have had preferential treatment because of being a foreigner. Deliveries outside of Amman in public hospitals are very traumstic
will bucks delivered back in your homeland . Give your child more opportunities. I will live in Jordan, but I will give my child birth in USA . I want them to he American .
I wanted to touch on the midwife thing, I am jordanian btw, and I study at the jordan university. here in jordan there are a lot of babies being born compared to the uk so it's really hard to follow up afterwards that's why, I believe 8 babies are born every 3 minutes imagine that, so yeah that's why.
Rachel, I enjoy your videos tremendously ! I wish to give you some advice in case you have more babies. Try to deliver without epidural. The epidural relieves the pain, but there can be mild or severe complications. Severe complications are feeling awful, nausea, infection which can lead to meningitis, nerve damage, damage to the spinal cord that can leave you paralyzed in a wheel chair. I don't want to scare you, but epidural anesthesia can have severe complications. Severe complications are extremely rare but can happen. Buckle up, and go through the contractions, and deliver naturally! Of course you can ask your doctor about the side effects of epidural. He/she will tell you what I just told you.
I agree about epidural, it is very risky. Isn't entonox (nitrous oxide) an option in Jordan? I used it with my second son and when used properly - I had a lot of help from the midwife when to inhale deeply, it is very effective for pain relief. You still feel pain but it is a strange feeling, almost like you are riding over the pain, hard to explain. I wish I had used it with my first child. There are no side effects to mother or baby. For women who deliver naturally without any pain relief, I have so much respect for them, what amazing strong ladies. Unfortunately I am a wimp.
SubhanAllah, I can't imagine how horrible it must have been with the first experience!! I thought, especially a Muslim country, would encourage breastfeeding and skin to skin, without taking the baby, come on. Even listening made me angry. AlhamduliLlah your first son is healthy, loved and cared for and you were strong and amazing. I'm glad I have birth in the UK and even though I had an emergency c section they never took my baby away from me and the NHS encourages breastfeeding. Who encourages formula!? I'm shocked! Anyway, super interesting video as usual 💛
Mmmmm i used to work at Jordan university hospital....... it is not completely public and if your husband worked in the university you will not be treated as a regulator patient most likely you would get a better treatment
ayeee farah hospital! thats my great uncles hospital but sadly he died in novemeber 2019 :( but yea thats why im named farah because zaid (that founder) was the one who gave my mom her check ups pregnant with me :). no point of this comment just a fun fact since u mentioned it lol
دقيقة تنفعك؟. - سُبحان الله . - الحمدلله . - لا إله إلا الله . - اللهُ أكبر . - سُبحان الله و بحمدهِ . - سُبحان الله العظيم . - استغفر الله و أتوبُ إليه . - لا حول و لا قوة إلا بالله . - حسبي الله لا إله إلا هو عليه توكلت وهو رب العرش العظيم . - اللهُم صلِ على نبينا محمد . - لا إله الا الله محمد رسول الله . ...🌨️.
The worst department you could ever ever have is the maternity department in the UK!!!!!! I'm not against the NHS but giving birth there is a big NO NO... Horrible memory. Same goes with the A and E
I am Lebanese and had both of my sons in 2 different NHS hospitals and my experience was fabulous. They explained everything they were doing before doing so, were super patient about my never-ending question and also, because I am muslim, I didn't want to have a male doctor or nurse present during the birth unless there was an emergency situation. They respected my birth plan to the letter. Accident and Emergency department.....I have to agree with you. Noisy, inconsiderate and impatient people, long waiting time and staff get a lot of abuse. I admire their patience and expertise so much to be able to work in such an environment.
@@milamou9352 I agree about the patience, my labour was 24 hrs plus, I can't remember now it's been too long mashaAllah, I also agree about respecting the male/female delivery assistant but that is everywhere normally not just the UK!! .. BUT I'm afraid in another European country or even in our countries they would plan things much ahead, blood tests follow ups with the doctor (not the midwife). I am a medic myself and I know that many things are over looked in the practice of medicine in the UK.. not only in pregnancy...becoz of the lengthy time it takes to even see a specialist for instance, many people sadly just end up dying including pregnant women due to problems like pre-eclampsia, infections, high hormone levels, etc... due to the NHS system after the will of Allah of course.. But again it is free and you get what you pay for so even an epidural is not used as a standard procedure in most NHS trusts ... the dilemma about NHS will always be there, despite people who do work their backs off to give a decent service. I'm glad you had a fabulous experience at the trusts you visited. But most people won't say the same :).
@@simasoumi5551 My first labour was also very long - 27 hours but I made the mistake of asking for pethidine as pain relief - never again. It made me so sleepy and I was exhausted, very woozy and kept wanting to fall asleep. There were 4 midwives in the room taking care of me. One of them told me my baby's heart rate had dropped from 156 to 62 and I heard everybody shouting to prepare for emergency CS. Hearing those words, it filled me with panic. Alhamdulillah, Allah gave me the strength to push with some help with ventouse delivery. I too am a medic in oncology. I think the reason things are done the way they are in the UK is because the midwives are highly highly specialised. I had pre-eclampsia with my first son and was hospitalised for 2 weeks and was urged to consider being induced. I told them if I do not go into labour by morning, then I agree. 2 hours later, my son decided to make his way out.......but what a long labour. Epidural is available to those who wish to have it but many times I heard from ob/gyn colleagues that the mothers are more than 7cm dilated so they do not give it to them because it's likely they will deliver before it takes effect. Some areas of the UK are better than others. There are some areas where the death rate of mother and baby is very high for a variety of reasons. I totally agree with you. This should never happen in a developed country, it is inexcusable. Lack of funding is not an excuse, I think it is a matter of low staff morale in particular hospitals. The government also make it more difficult for foreign medics to work in the UK if we are not from a European country. I have dual nationality - my mother is Greek and so I used my Greek passport to apply for the PLAB exam and everything was much quicker and easier than my colleagues from other Arab countries. It is so unfair and unjust. In my native Lebanon - whether government hospital or private, you can ask for a female doctor but mostly they are male - you have to take what you get. The reason for this is that there are more males who choose ob/gyn than females. That is why I decided to go to the UK to have my children. I had worked within the NHS and was familiar with the system. I have colleagues in other Arab countries who have told me horror stories, about doctors making up lies and telling patients they need surgery, the patient has surgery and often there is post-op infection, sepsis or death. On a visit to Egypt, I was invited into theatre by a friend who had to remove a KOCHER!!!!! Can you believe that????? This poor lady had stabbing pains when she was bending over and her surgeon who left the kocher in told her she had to keep moving, the pain will go if she keeps active. It was only when she came to my friend's clinic and was x-rayed, we saw the kocher. I don't know how this can happen, how can a surgeon leave any instrument inside a patient never mind something so large as a kocher, nor did the nurses assisting do their jobs properly counting instruments, swabs etc. There are horror stories all over the world, many from negligent doctors or nurses. It should not happen, it is hard for us who are devoted to medicine to hear of these tragic and avoidable circumstances. We are fortunate to have iman, it helps us because we know it was written. I don't know how people who do not believe can cope. Alhamdulillah we are fortunate to have healthy children in spite of the issues with pre-eclampsia. It's so nice too to interact with another medic and share experiences. Fi iman Allah. 💕🇱🇧
Hi Rachel, I've actually lived in the UK for 5 years to study, I had access to the NHS throughout the whole period. a couple of years back, I got a hernia and had to surgically fix it (tuck it back into the abdomen). The wait time just to get a CT scan was crazy, towards the end, I couldn't walk properly, I asked for them to expedite my appointment and explained my situation. I had friends who worked at the NHS (both a surgeon and a GP), they were Jordanian; they actually recommended that I fly back to Jordan and do the surgery because the standards at private hospitals in Jordan are better than the NHS (their words not mine) hahaha. Luckily, I had insurance through my family and had one of the best surgeons in Jordan operating on me 2 days after I arrived, the whole thing costed me 30 JDs :D
Unfortunately, there are a lot of misconceptions around healthcare in the Middle East, and we might not have the best facilities (especially in public hospitals), but I would go far as to say that we have some of the most skilled doctors in the world. So you really don't have to worry about medical care when you're in Jordan.
I really felt sad about your experience in the first hospital you mentioned especially regarding not letting you to have proper skin to skin contact with your baby and not allowing you to breast feed within the 1st hour.. I am a jordanian pediatrician and hearing this makes me sad.. It is true that a lot of hospitals in jordan dont implement breastfeeding policies and even rooming in many cases is not allowed, many of my relatives would be told by nurses as you said that the baby is hungry and is not getting enough breast milk and we need to feed him formula instead of providing support and help to a new mom.. And in fact as i see in my practice breastfeeding among jordanian mothers unfortunately is being decreasing and formula feeding is on the rise for several reasons some of which is the absense of proper counseling regarding breast feeding which should start during pregnancy and not after the mother delivers.. We as pediatricians here in jordan should pay more efforts and their is a lack of breastfeeding consultants which i think are much more available in western countries like the UK for example.. I was happy for your nice experience in jordan university hospital where i was trained during my residency.. But wanted to clarify that JUH is not actually considered a typical public hospital it is more of a university hospital.. So there is much of an academic atmosphere.. public hospitals in amman is like prince hamza hospital or Al basheer hospital thank you so much for sharing your experience.. And may Allah bless your lovely kids
I remember you, I am a resident at JUH, and I met with you and your husband at one of your antenatal visits, I am glad you liked your experience at JUH, we always try to do our best.
I am very happy to hear of your experience at our hospital. All the best for you and your lovely family. Dr Naser Al-Husban
I have been married to my Jordanian husband now for 15 years, I lived in Amman off and on for years , I am American. Back in 2007 I decided to deliver my daughter at Al Bashear hospital, never again!! I ended up having a C-section there, the hospital was very dirty, the nurses were so rude, they had me stay for 3 days after the surgery in a room with 3 women on the left side of the room and 3 on the other side of the room, we all 6 women were recovering from C-section surgeries, avoid this hospital like the plague ladies, also I woke up after my surgery with some male nurse slapping my face to awaken me, worst experience ever, I absolutely love Jordan and the people there, not so much for their hospitals. also I just recently watched your video on your Jordanian Nationality, like you I just applied for my Jordanian citizenship on October 1 2021 and inshaAllah I’ll have it soon!!!! Mabrook on your Jordanian Nationality !!! 👏
I think we don't get midwives here after birth is because we are used to having one of grandmothers come and help the mom for like 40 days or maybe even longer. Glad you shared all this information ❤❤
Yes, it is perhaps useful for foreigners to understand that. I wish I hadn’t cut details of the cultural / traditional differences of birthing here from my final edit! Thank you for highlighting it here ❤️
LOVED this video and it really resonated with my experience of giving birth - I was at Farah. I think a lot depends on who your Dr is and how insistent you/hubby is with them. I absolutely refused to let them take my son and give him any formula at all. He stayed with me almost the whole time and they performed the tests they needed to in the room with me and my hubby went with them if they needed to take him anywhere else. Nurses were super at supporting breastfeeding and the place was really clean. My only gripe was that they made me birth on my back in stirrups, which is pretty 1950s! That was more the Dr than the hospital though. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Yes, husband definitely needs to be on side and making sure your wishes are heard. Yes yes yes to the stirrups - it was one of my main complaints when discussing my birth plan at Jordan Hospital and they said there is absolutely no way they would violate hospital policy when it came to the stirrups 😩 Would you give birth again in Jordan/ at Farah?
MummyinAmman probably not as I really wanted a water birth but if I had to give birth again here then I would definitely return to Farah although perhaps with a different doctor
I didn’t know then, but now I understand why our relatives went on about the formula. I refused formula for all my 5 children and I breastfeed for 2 years. Alhamdulillah my husband supports me. It’s crazy how anyone thinks formula would be the best for the baby. I do understand if it’s no other option but they make it sound like breastfeeding is the second best option. SubhanAllah it’s even in the Quran!
Thx for sharing your experience. I loved how detailed you were.
Jordan University Hospital is not a public hospital per se, it is a university hospital which services the University of Jordan primarily for students (med/nursing/lab etc) and residents, and of course patients/clients eventually...
The point is, this hospital is considered a mid-range hospital between a private hospital and a public hospital. I can't generalize but I'm quite confident that the experience would've been less than ideal at a public hospital, and for a foreigner like you - no offense - I wouldn't recommend being medicated there unless you lower your expectations quite low.
I work at JUH and I speak highly of it. I'm glad you enjoyed your delivery there and if you come again, make sure you look for me if you needed any help. ☺️
Hi!
I am so glad I found you channel!
I have been living in Jordan for 3 years already.
And soon enough InshaaAllah I will become a mother!
My doctor works at Jordan Hospital, and so your video gave me a great deal to think about
I will for sure, now confirm with her all the details that you mentioned!!
😊👍
Even though, I still do not know where I will deliver.
I mean, I am just not familiar yet with my options!
Anyway, thank you so much!
Mabrook!. At the end of the day it depends on what you agree with your doctor and your husband which basically means you’re in the best hands possible as long as you are clear about your wishes. Wishing you all the best for your delivery ❤️
Yes, here in the UK (at least in pre covid times - my experience is from smer 2019) you have a midwife who comes the next day you've come back home from hospital, mainly to support the mother. Then after 3 or 5 days they come to check the baby's weight and check bloods by taking blood from the heel of the baby. However, after my midwife saw me the first time, on my third day at home I had a breakdown because I wasn't sure I was breastfeeding properly so I called the ward I gave birth in (St George's in London) and they arranged for a midwife to come and see me on that same day and it was soooooo helpful alhamduliLlah. She reassured me so much and gave me so much tranquility. Then the midwife comes to your house the following week, they do weigh the baby and after 2 weeks of being back home (or two weeks post partum) you are discharged from the midwives if there no concerns. Before being discharged by the midwife though you're also seen by the health visitor (a nurse or midwife with extra qualifications), so their care overlaps at one point. After you're discharged by the midwife then you're under the care of the health visitor (and GP), the health visitor comes to your house for a couple of times, after which you go their centre instead. If they have any medical concerns they direct you to the gp and for vaccines you also go to the gp where normally a nurse practitioner does them for you. But with your health visitor you can keep in touch. I always called mine when I had any concerns and she was great. That's how it works in the uk. I'm Italian (and born in Ecuador) and I know in Italy instead you're cared for by the paediatrician, if I'm not wrong. So interesting to see the birth experience in different countries! It's such a delicate process, even after (and maybe even especially!) the baby is born.
Thanks for sharing all this experience!
Ok , about the follow up after leaving the hospital , it is the standard , but it is not from hospital , it is provided by ministry of health through public infirmary with the diffrence that you go register and you get scheduled appointments for checking up on babies and time for shots like chicken box and many other shots like this , but it depend on you if you follow up or not , check your area health center , and Adham should receive his shots so does the baby
I've been in UK for sometime and honestly, Jordan is a way better than UK in case of medical care.
Well... JORDAN UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IS NOT A PUBLIC ONE... IT IS ONLY BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND WORKS FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND IS AUTOMATICALLY INSURED WITH THIS HOSPITAL YOU WERE ALLOWED TO GIVE BIRTH IN IT. FOR ORDINARY JORDANIANS IT WILL COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY TO USE THAT HOSPITAL.
SO EFFECTIVELY JORDAN UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IS MORE PRIVATE THAN PUBLIC.
Thank you for sharing this!! It was really interesting!
Yay! Im pleased it was interesting and not utterly boring like I suspected it is 😅 thank you xx
when do you negotiate with the hospital about having the father next to the mother during delivery?
Thanks a lot for the information
Hi Rachel, I had my son two years back and I did a course on hypnobirthing which helped me a lot!!! The midwife that gave me the course was actually British, and Im still friends with her- by the way Im Jordanian and I live in Dubai. I do not know any other Arab women who ever heard about hypnobirthing. Can you make a video about your experience and how did you get to do it Jordan? Are there courses in Amman? Or were you self-taught?
I watch all of your videos at random ! 💞🦋💞
Wow, Rachele rich experience with so many details 🙂 may you talk in the next video regarding things that made you decide to get married to an Arabian man 🙂👨?
My mom had to gave birth in a private hospital "very bad experience"
The nurses didn't listened , smiled,or even looked at her ,there were 0 difference between them and robots, they took my little brother extremely quickly ,my mom had to BEG them just to SEE him+ it's super expensive...
Hi. My question is not really related to your vlog. But I just gave birth recently in Farah, I wonder if do you have any idea regarding getting an english translated birth certificate directly from Department of Civil status and Passport Office and how's the process? Thank you so much.
How was the English did they speak English only around you? Or did you find you self not knowing what they were saying at times?
Who is your doctor and who was the amazing resident? Can you give us names? :)
Dr Nasr Hosban and I’m afraid I’ve got total mind blank regarding the resident 🙈 but actually I met a few of his residents during various appointments and they were all top class
I worked there for 7 years during my residency and a couple of years following it 2018-2016. I'm glad you had such a pleasant experience. I'm sure you got some special treatment because of your husband and because you are ajanabyeh as well :)) when I finish my studies in the UK in a couple of years I'd love to meet you in Jordan!
Hello :)
I am really glad you had this wonderful experience ❤️
I am the resident who delivered you back then btw🙈
My name is Tamara 😊
Usually in public hospitals they will not allow you to have anyone with you. Amman may be different and you may have had preferential treatment because of being a foreigner. Deliveries outside of Amman in public hospitals are very traumstic
I am new in Jordan but u help me a lot thx
Ahlan wa sahlan! I hope you’re settling in well :)
will bucks delivered back in your homeland . Give your child more opportunities. I will live in Jordan, but I will give my child birth in USA . I want them to he American .
USA makes private practice and Free for pregnancy.
I wanted to touch on the midwife thing, I am jordanian btw, and I study at the jordan university.
here in jordan there are a lot of babies being born compared to the uk so it's really hard to follow up afterwards that's why, I believe 8 babies are born every 3 minutes imagine that, so yeah that's why.
Rachel, I enjoy your videos tremendously ! I wish to give you some advice in case you have more babies. Try to deliver without epidural. The epidural relieves the pain, but there can be mild or severe complications. Severe complications are feeling awful, nausea, infection which can lead to meningitis, nerve damage, damage to the spinal cord that can leave you paralyzed in a wheel chair. I don't want to scare you, but epidural anesthesia can have severe complications. Severe complications are extremely rare but can happen. Buckle up, and go through the contractions, and deliver naturally!
Of course you can ask your doctor about the side effects of epidural. He/she will tell you what I just told you.
I agree about epidural, it is very risky. Isn't entonox (nitrous oxide) an option in Jordan? I used it with my second son and when used properly - I had a lot of help from the midwife when to inhale deeply, it is very effective for pain relief. You still feel pain but it is a strange feeling, almost like you are riding over the pain, hard to explain. I wish I had used it with my first child. There are no side effects to mother or baby.
For women who deliver naturally without any pain relief, I have so much respect for them, what amazing strong ladies. Unfortunately I am a wimp.
SubhanAllah, I can't imagine how horrible it must have been with the first experience!! I thought, especially a Muslim country, would encourage breastfeeding and skin to skin, without taking the baby, come on. Even listening made me angry. AlhamduliLlah your first son is healthy, loved and cared for and you were strong and amazing. I'm glad I have birth in the UK and even though I had an emergency c section they never took my baby away from me and the NHS encourages breastfeeding. Who encourages formula!? I'm shocked! Anyway, super interesting video as usual 💛
Mmmmm i used to work at Jordan university hospital....... it is not completely public and if your husband worked in the university you will not be treated as a regulator patient most likely you would get a better treatment
ayeee farah hospital! thats my great uncles hospital but sadly he died in novemeber 2019 :( but yea thats why im named farah because zaid (that founder) was the one who gave my mom her check ups pregnant with me :). no point of this comment just a fun fact since u mentioned it lol
We don't have skin to skin culture in the Arab world.. it is a foreign thing. Not every hospital accepts requests from patients 😁
Yes unfortunately u don't have it☹️
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that's kinda funny... Not as much experienced..... The country has a baby boom! Surely they are experienced
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The worst department you could ever ever have is the maternity department in the UK!!!!!! I'm not against the NHS but giving birth there is a big NO NO... Horrible memory. Same goes with the A and E
I am Lebanese and had both of my sons in 2 different NHS hospitals and my experience was fabulous. They explained everything they were doing before doing so, were super patient about my never-ending question and also, because I am muslim, I didn't want to have a male doctor or nurse present during the birth unless there was an emergency situation. They respected my birth plan to the letter.
Accident and Emergency department.....I have to agree with you. Noisy, inconsiderate and impatient people, long waiting time and staff get a lot of abuse. I admire their patience and expertise so much to be able to work in such an environment.
@@milamou9352 I agree about the patience, my labour was 24 hrs plus, I can't remember now it's been too long mashaAllah, I also agree about respecting the male/female delivery assistant but that is everywhere normally not just the UK!! .. BUT I'm afraid in another European country or even in our countries they would plan things much ahead, blood tests follow ups with the doctor (not the midwife). I am a medic myself and I know that many things are over looked in the practice of medicine in the UK.. not only in pregnancy...becoz of the lengthy time it takes to even see a specialist for instance, many people sadly just end up dying including pregnant women due to problems like pre-eclampsia, infections, high hormone levels, etc... due to the NHS system after the will of Allah of course.. But again it is free and you get what you pay for so even an epidural is not used as a standard procedure in most NHS trusts ... the dilemma about NHS will always be there, despite people who do work their backs off to give a decent service. I'm glad you had a fabulous experience at the trusts you visited. But most people won't say the same :).
@@simasoumi5551 My first labour was also very long - 27 hours but I made the mistake of asking for pethidine as pain relief - never again. It made me so sleepy and I was exhausted, very woozy and kept wanting to fall asleep. There were 4 midwives in the room taking care of me. One of them told me my baby's heart rate had dropped from 156 to 62 and I heard everybody shouting to prepare for emergency CS. Hearing those words, it filled me with panic. Alhamdulillah, Allah gave me the strength to push with some help with ventouse delivery. I too am a medic in oncology. I think the reason things are done the way they are in the UK is because the midwives are highly highly specialised. I had pre-eclampsia with my first son and was hospitalised for 2 weeks and was urged to consider being induced. I told them if I do not go into labour by morning, then I agree. 2 hours later, my son decided to make his way out.......but what a long labour.
Epidural is available to those who wish to have it but many times I heard from ob/gyn colleagues that the mothers are more than 7cm dilated so they do not give it to them because it's likely they will deliver before it takes effect.
Some areas of the UK are better than others. There are some areas where the death rate of mother and baby is very high for a variety of reasons. I totally agree with you. This should never happen in a developed country, it is inexcusable. Lack of funding is not an excuse, I think it is a matter of low staff morale in particular hospitals. The government also make it more difficult for foreign medics to work in the UK if we are not from a European country. I have dual nationality - my mother is Greek and so I used my Greek passport to apply for the PLAB exam and everything was much quicker and easier than my colleagues from other Arab countries. It is so unfair and unjust.
In my native Lebanon - whether government hospital or private, you can ask for a female doctor but mostly they are male - you have to take what you get. The reason for this is that there are more males who choose ob/gyn than females. That is why I decided to go to the UK to have my children. I had worked within the NHS and was familiar with the system.
I have colleagues in other Arab countries who have told me horror stories, about doctors making up lies and telling patients they need surgery, the patient has surgery and often there is post-op infection, sepsis or death. On a visit to Egypt, I was invited into theatre by a friend who had to remove a KOCHER!!!!! Can you believe that????? This poor lady had stabbing pains when she was bending over and her surgeon who left the kocher in told her she had to keep moving, the pain will go if she keeps active. It was only when she came to my friend's clinic and was x-rayed, we saw the kocher. I don't know how this can happen, how can a surgeon leave any instrument inside a patient never mind something so large as a kocher, nor did the nurses assisting do their jobs properly counting instruments, swabs etc. There are horror stories all over the world, many from negligent doctors or nurses. It should not happen, it is hard for us who are devoted to medicine to hear of these tragic and avoidable circumstances. We are fortunate to have iman, it helps us because we know it was written. I don't know how people who do not believe can cope.
Alhamdulillah we are fortunate to have healthy children in spite of the issues with pre-eclampsia. It's so nice too to interact with another medic and share experiences. Fi iman Allah. 💕🇱🇧
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R u a Muslim?
I will live in Jordan. My child will be born in USA . Its better that way.
There certainly are more options to get the birth you want in the USA. Wishing you all the best ☺️
@@MummyinAmman No I given the Child the Best Option. Dual citiszenship. The baby is American has better future Aboard.