Ive been a Hyper Voice Sylveon main for over a year, and honestly I dont hate it as much as I thought I did. Though you deal less damage, the room for counterplay is much smaller since you virtually have to get behind Sylveon, as opposed to dashing to the side with a movement ability. Good Sylveon players rarely missed their hyper voices, but now the margin for error on the opponents end feels smaller? Idk, Im having fun.
@@randommmwiththreeMs I really don’t like it, I didn’t miss anyway and counter play wasn’t really a huge problem to begin with, but now I play sylveon completely different, now I play her as a curse sustainer, I used to go for damage but not anymore
The other reason I don't hate it is because generally the assignment just changed from "hit one guy in the damage zone" to "hit as many people in the damage zone as possible" which I think is pretty rewarding.
Draining Kiss + Hypervoice could work. The healing from Draining Kiss & Shell bell will most definitely help Sylveon sustain. Then there’s the slow of Draining Kiss, which has been nerfed but hopefully not egregiously, will help in getting/keeping enemies in Hypervoice’s range & tracking will be better. So ya could go for a “ranged support that never dies” strategy I’ll definitely play around with it
I just played it in practice a couple times this morning with this same build and it felt soooo good. I HATED this when I first saw it but I have to say I had a huge smile on my face the entire time trying it out. My little buddy is shining. So awesome! I am excited to try out MF DK with Shell Bell and the extra slow effect from DK later too.
Every sylveon is just going to be able to dominate lane, take the altaria with no problem, Sylveon already had a great early game as most Eevees do but this just takes it a step up
As a sylveon main , I actually disagree the damage reduction makes it actually wayyy longer to take. New hv isn’t as fun to play, I liked having to aim
Looks like Sylveon is getting a new, very beautiful skin soon. I really want it but they just made the BP more expensive and I really don't want to support them financially when they stab us in the back like that.
I know right? Very pretty but theyre now they're pushing on whales. With the ex license removal and more frequent patches and 500 point map in the future they had a good thing starting...
I dunno, this feels really weak... Dunno if its just me but this feels more like a nerf honestly. Loosing the 2 extra ticks after you get the hyper voice+ really hurts the late game of this mon. Feels like early speedsters where they fall off late game.
I think another buff they could give to Shell Bell is to have it activate like Choice Specs where it counts for an entire move(hyper voice would heal every tick THEN go on cooldown)
Ive been a Hyper Voice Sylveon main for over a year, and honestly I dont hate it as much as I thought I did. Though you deal less damage, the room for counterplay is much smaller since you virtually have to get behind Sylveon, as opposed to dashing to the side with a movement ability. Good Sylveon players rarely missed their hyper voices, but now the margin for error on the opponents end feels smaller? Idk, Im having fun.
Good to hear
@@randommmwiththreeMs I really don’t like it, I didn’t miss anyway and counter play wasn’t really a huge problem to begin with, but now I play sylveon completely different, now I play her as a curse sustainer, I used to go for damage but not anymore
@leafythesylveon8220 yeah it's not my favorite change either. Hoping it grows on me lol
The other reason I don't hate it is because generally the assignment just changed from "hit one guy in the damage zone" to "hit as many people in the damage zone as possible" which I think is pretty rewarding.
Sylveon is really good now the wide range is able to sweep the entire map
Hyper Voice Sylveon w/ Cursed Incense:
🩷📢@#$%!?
Draining Kiss + Hypervoice could work. The healing from Draining Kiss & Shell bell will most definitely help Sylveon sustain. Then there’s the slow of Draining Kiss, which has been nerfed but hopefully not egregiously, will help in getting/keeping enemies in Hypervoice’s range & tracking will be better. So ya could go for a “ranged support that never dies” strategy
I’ll definitely play around with it
I just noticed that Sylveon has fangs and that's adorable
I just played it in practice a couple times this morning with this same build and it felt soooo good. I HATED this when I first saw it but I have to say I had a huge smile on my face the entire time trying it out. My little buddy is shining. So awesome! I am excited to try out MF DK with Shell Bell and the extra slow effect from DK later too.
I had the same build idea and prebuilt it on my sylveon already when i get to play again! So happy to see this! Can't wait to test my black emblems
Shell Bell is going to be so nice on Slowbro.
I had only one bot match but Hyper Voice seems to considerably slow down your enemies.
New hype voice is very hype
I like it cause it makes it REALLY feel she has two varying playstyles and functions with her builds
Sylveon went from point nuke to teehee Curse Incense lmao
Every sylveon is just going to be able to dominate lane, take the altaria with no problem, Sylveon already had a great early game as most Eevees do but this just takes it a step up
As a sylveon main , I actually disagree the damage reduction makes it actually wayyy longer to take. New hv isn’t as fun to play, I liked having to aim
Sylv could clear birds no problem before the patch
Low key almost cried seeing this without any warning.
The Aoe on the rework is nice but it could do with a little more damage, i think adding an additional 3 - 5 percent should be fine balance wise.
So glad one of my fav pokemon for the first rework. Is wiggly next...???
Wiggly(sing more specifically) dosent need rework.
Maybe rollout could be improved upon, but not too much
@@dinoooooom No what I'm saying is that maybe they rework it like China's version???
cute charm specifically could use it
Definitely want to see that Rollout change.
Would love a buff or rework to its unite too
I really like your enthusiasm with these updates, makes me want to play too
Looks like Sylveon is getting a new, very beautiful skin soon. I really want it but they just made the BP more expensive and I really don't want to support them financially when they stab us in the back like that.
I know right? Very pretty but theyre now they're pushing on whales. With the ex license removal and more frequent patches and 500 point map in the future they had a good thing starting...
Shell bell buff just made Goodra huge. Trust.
Love the content Spragels, keep it up, buddy!
Sylveon needs to be put in the forever box
Notes: damage of hyper voice has been decreased.
Me: are you sure?, I mean it's MUCH BETTER so whatever.
Jake I can't do 100 push-ups if I tried. I had major surgery and have multiple genetic back defects
Was baby-doll eyes always a sure hit move or was that changed too
That changed too 🤔
I dunno, this feels really weak... Dunno if its just me but this feels more like a nerf honestly. Loosing the 2 extra ticks after you get the hyper voice+ really hurts the late game of this mon. Feels like early speedsters where they fall off late game.
Thank you! I hate it sm as a sylveon main
Doesn’t hyper voice stop drain kiss before it ends? I’ve tried it out in the past and that would happen, unless they changed it
It's hype voice instead of hyper voice now frfr
Sylveon buffs are my favorite this patch!
It’s not a buff, it does less damage. It’s a rework
@@leafythesylveon8220 Fair enough, but I use Mystical Fire which typically is used with Draining Kiss, the only move buffed and not reworked.
Yes yes and YES!!! Sylveon Mains rise!!!
As a sylveon main, I honestly kinda hate it
HYPE VOIIIIICCEE
I Never Knew That It Was Possible To Do A Whole Hundred Pushups!!!!!!! 😲💜🧡
I think triple glasses potion is the move
Would you say that Shell Bell is actually viable now, I'm only running it on battle mages rn but idk if it's actually good with other mages
Id inagine its only good in sustained fighting. So squishies prolly get it less. Was thinking of maybe putting it and res on goodra or lap though
I’ve been running shell bell for a long time on most mages already for the cooldown. The buff just makes it a no brainer
@@nickg5341 Assassin Cramorant can even go crazier now
Support Sylveon might be a thing now maybe?
How?
Can we say it’s a nerf or a buff? 🤔
I think those players were fans and they just dog-piled on him. : /
This is just broken, I have no idea how to counter this lol😅😂 absol maybe
Speedsters definitely stand the best chance or anything that can burst it down real quick and is not a special attacker
Yup, most speedsters,
It’s not broken, it does no damage
@@leafythesylveon8220 it does damage man, michore than mime does too in fact
I think another buff they could give to Shell Bell is to have it activate like Choice Specs where it counts for an entire move(hyper voice would heal every tick THEN go on cooldown)
I myself have played with the duaraladon player
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Burn
@@lettuceboisugmachad465 more like the game fell off
early gang