That's a great total system power. My Ryzen 5 & single "100W" RX 580 PC is pulling 280W from the wall. I currently also have a w7000 to run extra monitors (5 total) and have Bronze PSU. Even tested with single monitor connected (and in standby), single GPU, RGB off, only CPU fans, this brought the usage down to 250W. I'm consistently pulling 28.5-29Mh/s. CPU and GPU are tuned for minimal power consumption so I'm not sure where this extra 100W is getting eaten up.
Those things are pretty cool. Appreciate the honesty in saying they're more for larger rigs. While its not a large sum of money between the 2 models, its still a matter of need versus functionality. Great video man 👍
Fantastic review, thank you for your efforts! I have purchased 2 Delta PSUs along with the ZSX breakout board (version 1) and I absolutely love it. Not only is it more efficient than ATX, it's also smaller and cheaper. I also find cable management to be a lot cleaner with these flexible 6-to-8pin cables (compared to the thick cables included in the ATX PSUs). Quite a game changer imo. P.S.: And no, I don't get anything for this praise :-) I just love the product!
Not an electrician disclaimer...lol. i dont have this board but i am betting the reading it reads is the power draw for devices hooked into board where it is wired. Dc power uses power just for the circuit itself. I dont know why but remember someone explaining this on a review a home generator/backup device. So that could explain draw difference to some degree.
the 67watts diff is very bad, that mean your PSU display amp reading ;show only the 12v side. If it's not the case the PSU is only 68% effi. If i'am correct the PSU you have is Platinum? so you should see 20.4amps on the display to be at 90% eff at 20% load. I think you need to conctact them to get more information about that display amp!
Not to sound dumb or anything but can that built-in pico handle a ryzen 9 5950x? If not can I power the cpu directly from the 6pin pcie with an 8pin atx adapter?
My explanation: 1. How much PSU efficiency you have (percentage)? 2. That current meter on board, on what part of breakout board does it read? only all 6 pin or the whole breakout board(included mobo and misc?) Based on your readings, assuming 17amps(3 gpus) on whole breakout board all 6 pin only, not included the mobo supply. Loaded with gpu mining state it is 17amps X 12volts = 204 watts 204 watts(to verify you dc clamp meter and measure all current across wire and sum it all), if not equal to reading means only 6 pins is readied. your outlet wattage is 271 watts; 271watts(on wall) - 204 watts on breakoutboard = 67 watts is lost here, *assuming 94% psu efficiency 271watts(on wall) X 0.94 = 254.74 watts real load. (6% of 271watts)16.26 watts is HEAT wasted. **based on rabid mining test on server power supply, DPS-1200fb on idle state on of psu and breakoutboard = 29.1 watts( no load just switch on) conclusion: 254.74 watts real load + **assuming 45 watts (idle comsumption psu + breakout board since it much bigger) = 271 watts. --either you have much lower effiency or psu + breakout board too much comsumption. 254.74 watts on 3 GPu is good = 84watts per gpu. OR the board is included on total amps reading(17amps).
In my opinion probably the amperemeter gave the DC current for the 6 pin connector (generally GPU) and the other side of the board 24 pin connctor + sata are not monitored (I think that 60 W for powering CPU, AAAWAVE fan and SSD have sense for me and also you have to add the yield of your PSU (don't know gols or whatever anyway you lost again 5 -10 %)
If the breakout board and motherboard is powered down. With the power button for the motherboard wakeup the breakout board and server power supply. I have this problem when using a pico board along with the traditional breakout board like you showed
It is an actual game changer and great idea. But (there's always but), like you said it's a bird's nest, so all of those 6pin cables can come sleeved or in some other form, like ribbon cable - just like cables for some modular PSUs. Great video from you, again 👍
Stupid question: How these boards behave in case of electricity shutdown? Do they power up back by themselves or do you need to push the power button by yourself? The current consumption inaccuracy kinda sucks though :(
At $78 + the price of a server power supply(.which is way up in price since miners found out about them) its not much cheaper than at power supply. It looks worse and is louder.
the server psu is also consuming alot of energy even at standby. When I plug in a server with 2 hot swap psu and don't even power on the server it already consumes 80watt
I saw that once as well. I actually captured it in my studio build video I think. here is what is strange, I can’t recreate that with my existing PSU’s.
so my breakout board is throwing out 12.4V and my motherboard will not power up, it works fine with normal ATX power supllies, how to i reduce the 12.4 to 12v?
My motherboard won’t turn on when connected to the ZSX-AMP. Any reasoning why? I’ve searched everywhere, tried different mobos, same exact problem nothing turns on
Hey buddy, one thing, when you go to parallelminer to buy options on this server psu you can choose X adapter or X adapter AMP, could you explain to me what does it mean the amp option? Thanks!!
Hey guys hope someone can help quickly I have the delta 2400w power supply with this is same breakout boards. My question is can I use 6 pin to sata connector to power my ssd or does it have to be the supplied moles to sata connector? Thank you hope someone can help
yo how do you feel about aaawave? I have never bought a product of there and im wanting to buy a 3500x from there . How were your experiences with this seller? Were they reliable and did the products you bought packaged well and safe?
Quick question. I bought my HP 570451-101 1200W PSU from Amazon since Parallel Miner is sold out atm. It didn't come with a power cord, could you advise where/which one works? I don't want to make a noob move of frying everything cause of one cord.
So sorry this slipped by me. Yes, you can split a gpu and riser, but check the total wattage on the cable. It depends on the GPU and how much power it is pulling. I'm fairly comfortable splitting 1660 supers for example because they are low power.
When buying from Parallelminer, keep in mind that not all reviews are posted under their products. It seems company is deleting reviews that does not praise them or their products, they let some bad reviews through, but I noticed first hand that they do not allow what is uncomfortable. Moreover, product quality is not better than similar items from Aliexpress. I am talking about breaking boards and 6 pin cables. Their "Game changing" ZSX board fried when connected exactly as was instructed in their manual. Support is not answering and blaming that their support software that emails get lost. Very bad experience with his company, when support is needed. Just wanted to share my 2 cents.
@@HashRaptor no idea what was the reason, I have connected everything according to the manual. For some reason some transistors fried when turned on. Board went up in smokes. I was never so scared when building rigs. So take extra caution when using those boards.
I ordered 6 pieces of the ZSX board and 3 of them came with a broken capacitor, the same one. I emailed them, but they haven't replied. This was shipped all the way to Norway.. Too bad their support isn't there when you need them
@@richardphan3286 Just ordered there to germany. If something like that happens i want my money back from paypal and i wont buy anything else on their side. Hope everything is fine
I just went there and bought a 1500 W kit. It had 2 750W servers with 2 Breakout Board and 8 Pcie cables for $57.00. But I will be using them with PSU/Server combos.
12 volts x 4 Amps = 48 watts computer parts 240 volts x 30 amps = 7200 watts pdu. A 6800 card mining using 200 watts at 12 volts is using 16.6 amps or only 0.8333 Amps from a 240 volt power supply
How are you getting cards? I'm trying to make my first crypto machine with 3060 tis and I can't find any. I would do 2060s but they are almost 1.5 grand right now
Good pointing that out. I think they were talking theoretical max for the entire ATX side. So if I think through that. Let’s call it 280 watts. And if you are at 80% of that max 280 -56 = 244 watts. Then add up to 10 fans, and a fully loaded molex (at 80 %) and mobo with a beefy processor. Maybe that is their thinking??? But also, I’m curious as I mentioned in the video to see data regarding how much power the molex ports can pull. To date I’ve found nothing on it. Any thoughts on that let me know what you think. Take care!
My thoughs of the 300w rating is for the total use of the atx side. That is for the motherboard power, all the fan headers plus the molex and cpu 4/8pin connectors. It's a breakout board with an onboard pico
Hi! I haven't bought this breakout yet, though I will as it will save me space and keep everything tidy. Anyway, running a 350W inexpensive PSU on a BTC-T37 mobo + 8 fans + a mix of 2 x 1660S, 2 x 1660TIs, 1x 3070. 3070 shows 130W on my OC/UV. So running 5 of them would mean a bit more than 650W .... plus mobo etc.... I'd be ok with it but my HP PSU is on a 220V AC and therefore will handle 1200W. If you guys are running those on 110 ~ 127V I think your current solution is safer. An inexpensive 350W ATX PSU might be a cheaper combo if you factor in another breakout + cables. Good luck there!
@@carlosophia - You can bring the power down to 45-50% on the 3070’s so they only pull 119w from the wall. So five of them would only pull around 600W total. Personally I use an EVGA Supernova 850W, and an HP 750W Server PSU. Powers up my 5 card 3070 rig easily, uses a total of 660w from the wall.
@@mattketner7597 Oh, yes!, I was just replying more generically to the other user's question. I'm running my 2x 3070's at 125W. BTW, *do* try using 125W instead of anything more or less than that. On my two different boards I found I got a better performance by tweaking the % until the boards got to 125W. My 3060's also "liked" this 125W setting... I have never seen anything about 15W or 25W incremental increases but it is working here for a variety of boards. Doesn't hurt to try on your own, I supposed! Good luck and thanks anyway!!
You could say it's a game changer, but at $80 a breakout board it already makes it not a game changer. Don't buy this. Just get a mining motherboard that only takes 12v power, and don't buy an HP CS Platinum Plus PSU. The Plus models aren't efficient at high loads. Get an HP CS Platinum PSU (not Plus) instead. Problem solved.
This is misleading. Some power supplies are very efficient at low loads, some are not. If it’s 80+ titanium certified, it must be at least 90% efficient at 10% load, 80% platinum mandates 90% at 25% load. Some power supplies that aren’t rated can easily be 60% efficient at 10% load, which is horrific, but this is becoming less common.
@@FirstLast-xk6fd Some GPUs have some 6 pin sockets, so you use the 6 pin part of the connector. If you have an 8-pin GPU, then the two parts of the connector click together to make an 8-pin. I have GPUs that use both. If you're using just 6 pins, you generally tie the two-pin part of the connector back on the cable. I've been using the old version without the 24 pin connector for quite some time.
@@airborne63 i know lol but on a 6pin to 8pin cable if you look in the +2 connector part is there actually any electrical components in there or is it just the plastic part?
That's a great total system power. My Ryzen 5 & single "100W" RX 580 PC is pulling 280W from the wall. I currently also have a w7000 to run extra monitors (5 total) and have Bronze PSU. Even tested with single monitor connected (and in standby), single GPU, RGB off, only CPU fans, this brought the usage down to 250W. I'm consistently pulling 28.5-29Mh/s. CPU and GPU are tuned for minimal power consumption so I'm not sure where this extra 100W is getting eaten up.
Just arrived today! Using it with Gigabyte H110 D3 mining board. Very, very, pleased.
Those things are pretty cool. Appreciate the honesty in saying they're more for larger rigs. While its not a large sum of money between the 2 models, its still a matter of need versus functionality. Great video man 👍
Fantastic review, thank you for your efforts!
I have purchased 2 Delta PSUs along with the ZSX breakout board (version 1) and I absolutely love it. Not only is it more efficient than ATX, it's also smaller and cheaper.
I also find cable management to be a lot cleaner with these flexible 6-to-8pin cables (compared to the thick cables included in the ATX PSUs).
Quite a game changer imo.
P.S.: And no, I don't get anything for this praise :-) I just love the product!
Awesome man. Glad it’s working well for you. Keep us posted how it’s going.
Server power supplies is the way to go
You need a clamp meter to see accurate current for dc
Nice yours made it on time :) great review.
LOL, it was actually delayed about 3 days after initially being sent “overnight”.
@@HashRaptor lol
Not an electrician disclaimer...lol. i dont have this board but i am betting the reading it reads is the power draw for devices hooked into board where it is wired. Dc power uses power just for the circuit itself. I dont know why but remember someone explaining this on a review a home generator/backup device. So that could explain draw difference to some degree.
Great video !!! Thank you for making it and sharing the info with us
Love the vid !
So sick!
Thanks man! I’m loving these things. I know, I’m such a geek:).
the 67watts diff is very bad, that mean your PSU display amp reading ;show only the 12v side. If it's not the case the PSU is only 68% effi.
If i'am correct the PSU you have is Platinum? so you should see 20.4amps on the display to be at 90% eff at 20% load.
I think you need to conctact them to get more information about that display amp!
Only thing missing anymore is a header for on/off button relocation.
Not to sound dumb or anything but can that built-in pico handle a ryzen 9 5950x?
If not can I power the cpu directly from the 6pin pcie with an 8pin atx adapter?
My explanation:
1. How much PSU efficiency you have (percentage)?
2. That current meter on board, on what part of breakout board does it read? only all 6 pin or the whole breakout board(included mobo and misc?)
Based on your readings, assuming 17amps(3 gpus) on whole breakout board all 6 pin only, not included the mobo supply.
Loaded with gpu mining state it is 17amps X 12volts = 204 watts
204 watts(to verify you dc clamp meter and measure all current across wire and sum it all), if not equal to reading means only 6 pins is readied.
your outlet wattage is 271 watts;
271watts(on wall) - 204 watts on breakoutboard = 67 watts is lost here,
*assuming 94% psu efficiency 271watts(on wall) X 0.94 = 254.74 watts real load. (6% of 271watts)16.26 watts is HEAT wasted.
**based on rabid mining test on server power supply, DPS-1200fb on idle state on of psu and breakoutboard = 29.1 watts( no load just switch on)
conclusion:
254.74 watts real load + **assuming 45 watts (idle comsumption psu + breakout board since it much bigger) = 271 watts.
--either you have much lower effiency or psu + breakout board too much comsumption.
254.74 watts on 3 GPu is good = 84watts per gpu. OR the board is included on total amps reading(17amps).
Good stuff man. Thanks for putting those calculations together.
@@HashRaptor welcome bro,
In my opinion probably the amperemeter gave the DC current for the 6 pin connector (generally GPU) and the other side of the board 24 pin connctor + sata are not monitored (I think that 60 W for powering CPU, AAAWAVE fan and SSD have sense for me and also you have to add the yield of your PSU (don't know gols or whatever anyway you lost again 5 -10 %)
If the breakout board and motherboard is powered down. With the power button for the motherboard wakeup the breakout board and server power supply.
I have this problem when using a pico board along with the traditional breakout board like you showed
It is an actual game changer and great idea.
But (there's always but), like you said it's a bird's nest, so all of those 6pin cables can come sleeved or in some other form, like ribbon cable - just like cables for some modular PSUs.
Great video from you, again 👍
Yes very good point.
Stupid question: How these boards behave in case of electricity shutdown? Do they power up back by themselves or do you need to push the power button by yourself?
The current consumption inaccuracy kinda sucks though :(
they reboot by themselves
Good update Raptor 👍
At $78 + the price of a server power supply(.which is way up in price since miners found out about them) its not much cheaper than at power supply. It looks worse and is louder.
More efficient more durable more ports can sync with another server psu and more
I totally get where you are coming from. In my experience, they are only louder when you push them updwards of 70% to 80%
I got one
Rock on, let me know what you think.
how loud is it?
Nice work. Problem is getting your hands on them with the power supplies
the server psu is also consuming alot of energy even at standby. When I plug in a server with 2 hot swap psu and don't even power on the server it already consumes 80watt
I saw that once as well. I actually captured it in my studio build video I think. here is what is strange, I can’t recreate that with my existing PSU’s.
Mine only take 3 watts when on standby, reading from wall
so my breakout board is throwing out 12.4V and my motherboard will not
power up, it works fine with normal ATX power supllies, how to i reduce
the 12.4 to 12v?
My motherboard won’t turn on when connected to the ZSX-AMP. Any reasoning why? I’ve searched everywhere, tried different mobos, same exact problem nothing turns on
did you set the bios of the mobo to come on with the AC power (in this case, the server psu/ZFX) ? If you didn't, do you have an on pushbutton switch?
Thx bro :)
Interesting video !
I haven't yet tried this hardware myself,,,
Sam 🎵✌🏻
Sam!!!! Hope all is well with the farm!
@@HashRaptor All is good brother ☺️🎵✌🏻
can you power a ssd with this breakout board ?
Hey buddy, one thing, when you go to parallelminer to buy options on this server psu you can choose X adapter or X adapter AMP, could you explain to me what does it mean the amp option? Thanks!!
means it shows amperage on a meter
Hey guys hope someone can help quickly I have the delta 2400w power supply with this is same breakout boards. My question is can I use 6 pin to sata connector to power my ssd or does it have to be the supplied moles to sata connector? Thank you hope someone can help
yo how do you feel about aaawave? I have never bought a product of there and im wanting to buy a 3500x from there . How were your experiences with this seller? Were they reliable and did the products you bought packaged well and safe?
Quick question. I bought my HP 570451-101 1200W PSU from Amazon since Parallel Miner is sold out atm. It didn't come with a power cord, could you advise where/which one works? I don't want to make a noob move of frying everything cause of one cord.
Hey, if you are using standard US 110 volt, you can purchase a standard PC 3 prong cable. I recommend making sure it supports at least 15 amps.
@@HashRaptor Thanks buddy!
@@HashRaptor I live in Europe we have 230 volt. Which cable should i use?
Do you think it’d be okay to split a gpu and a riser into one connector on the breakout board?
So sorry this slipped by me. Yes, you can split a gpu and riser, but check the total wattage on the cable. It depends on the GPU and how much power it is pulling. I'm fairly comfortable splitting 1660 supers for example because they are low power.
When buying from Parallelminer, keep in mind that not all reviews are posted under their products. It seems company is deleting reviews that does not praise them or their products, they let some bad reviews through, but I noticed first hand that they do not allow what is uncomfortable. Moreover, product quality is not better than similar items from Aliexpress. I am talking about breaking boards and 6 pin cables. Their "Game changing" ZSX board fried when connected exactly as was instructed in their manual. Support is not answering and blaming that their support software that emails get lost. Very bad experience with his company, when support is needed.
Just wanted to share my 2 cents.
Oh no! So sorry to hear that! Any idea what was connected when it got fried? Did it smoke up?
@@HashRaptor no idea what was the reason, I have connected everything according to the manual. For some reason some transistors fried when turned on. Board went up in smokes. I was never so scared when building rigs. So take extra caution when using those boards.
Man that is scary. Smoke is never good. Only happened to me twice in a few years. Not cool either time.
I ordered 6 pieces of the ZSX board and 3 of them came with a broken capacitor, the same one. I emailed them, but they haven't replied. This was shipped all the way to Norway.. Too bad their support isn't there when you need them
@@richardphan3286 Just ordered there to germany. If something like that happens i want my money back from paypal and i wont buy anything else on their side. Hope everything is fine
So I'll need an adapter for a 8pin GPU?
No, the 24 pin cable that comes with the ZSX has a dual 4 pin cpu cable as well. (8 pin splits to two 4 pins)
Damn that board is 78 bucks? Am I right. Compared to the other ones you can get a power supply and a board for the same price.
I just went there and bought a 1500 W kit. It had 2 750W servers with 2 Breakout Board and 8 Pcie cables for $57.00. But I will be using them with PSU/Server combos.
What am I missing? How can one card be pulling 4 amps? I have over 40 cards on a 30 amp pdu.
12 volts x 4 Amps = 48 watts computer parts
240 volts x 30 amps = 7200 watts pdu.
A 6800 card mining using 200 watts at 12 volts is using 16.6 amps or only 0.8333 Amps from a 240 volt power supply
good video, more toys!
PSUs are not 100% efficient, so you always have a loss in the AC to DC conversion.
Great video!
How cain i power up 2 CPUS of my motherboard using breakoutboard?
How are you getting cards? I'm trying to make my first crypto machine with 3060 tis and I can't find any. I would do 2060s but they are almost 1.5 grand right now
Molex can not deliver 300W ! this is crazy, why did they say something like that. 300W through Molex will burn your house
Good pointing that out. I think they were talking theoretical max for the entire ATX side. So if I think through that. Let’s call it 280 watts. And if you are at 80% of that max 280 -56 = 244 watts. Then add up to 10 fans, and a fully loaded molex (at 80 %) and mobo with a beefy processor. Maybe that is their thinking??? But also, I’m curious as I mentioned in the video to see data regarding how much power the molex ports can pull. To date I’ve found nothing on it. Any thoughts on that let me know what you think. Take care!
@@HashRaptor what i find on a single molex connectors in the past is 132W on 12V and 55W on 5V.
My thoughs of the 300w rating is for the total use of the atx side. That is for the motherboard power, all the fan headers plus the molex and cpu 4/8pin connectors.
It's a breakout board with an onboard pico
will 5 3070 gpu work on 1200 server psu or I need to daisy chain?
I would go with two HP 750w Server PSU’s. Or a regular 750-850w ATX Power Supply + a HP 750w Server PSU w/12 port breakout board.
@@mattketner7597 That's what I end up doing. 4 hooked up on the 1200 psu at
Hi! I haven't bought this breakout yet, though I will as it will save me space and keep everything tidy.
Anyway, running a 350W inexpensive PSU on a BTC-T37 mobo + 8 fans + a mix of 2 x 1660S, 2 x 1660TIs, 1x 3070.
3070 shows 130W on my OC/UV. So running 5 of them would mean a bit more than 650W .... plus mobo etc.... I'd be ok with it but my HP PSU is on a 220V AC and therefore will handle 1200W.
If you guys are running those on 110 ~ 127V I think your current solution is safer. An inexpensive 350W ATX PSU might be a cheaper combo if you factor in another breakout + cables.
Good luck there!
@@carlosophia - You can bring the power down to 45-50% on the 3070’s so they only pull 119w from the wall. So five of them would only pull around 600W total. Personally I use an EVGA Supernova 850W, and an HP 750W Server PSU. Powers up my 5 card 3070 rig easily, uses a total of 660w from the wall.
@@mattketner7597 Oh, yes!, I was just replying more generically to the other user's question.
I'm running my 2x 3070's at 125W. BTW, *do* try using 125W instead of anything more or less than that. On my two different boards I found I got a better performance by tweaking the % until the boards got to 125W. My 3060's also "liked" this 125W setting... I have never seen anything about 15W or 25W incremental increases but it is working here for a variety of boards.
Doesn't hurt to try on your own, I supposed!
Good luck and thanks anyway!!
Will this boards work with any server psu? Or does it have to be some specific models?
Do you know the amp rating for those fan headers?
yo there are a bunch of scam and spam comments, might want to deal with that...
You could say it's a game changer, but at $80 a breakout board it already makes it not a game changer. Don't buy this. Just get a mining motherboard that only takes 12v power, and don't buy an HP CS Platinum Plus PSU. The Plus models aren't efficient at high loads. Get an HP CS Platinum PSU (not Plus) instead. Problem solved.
The PSU is extremely inefficient under 50% or so of its power capability
This is misleading. Some power supplies are very efficient at low loads, some are not. If it’s 80+ titanium certified, it must be at least 90% efficient at 10% load, 80% platinum mandates 90% at 25% load. Some power supplies that aren’t rated can easily be 60% efficient at 10% load, which is horrific, but this is becoming less common.
One thing I don't understand is why they are all 6pin and not 8pin, since all new cards need 8pin
6 pin at the power supply, the cables are 6+2 (8 pin) at the GPU side.
@@airborne63 yea but if I understand correctly that means that the 2 extra pins that are grounding pins just go nowhere.
@@FirstLast-xk6fd Some GPUs have some 6 pin sockets, so you use the 6 pin part of the connector. If you have an 8-pin GPU, then the two parts of the connector click together to make an 8-pin. I have GPUs that use both. If you're using just 6 pins, you generally tie the two-pin part of the connector back on the cable. I've been using the old version without the 24 pin connector for quite some time.
@@airborne63 i know lol but on a 6pin to 8pin cable if you look in the +2 connector part is there actually any electrical components in there or is it just the plastic part?
@@FirstLast-xk6fd Two ground pins. Jumpers from the 6-pin part. I just picked one up to look.....lol
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I will not ever plug a Radeon VII in this piece of hardware . ;)
You changed my life with Bitcoin investment.
15 amps are shitty bro. lol
Parallel miner are suck!!!!!! i bought a pcie raiser. They give me a faulty raiser and it burns my gpu and motherboard pcie slot
Oh no!!!! Be sure to let them know what happened. They seem to be very responsive.